Guest guest Posted September 28, 2008 Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 Wing Commander's reply has cleared some of my doubts and also confirms my last posts on the issue. On this juncture, I request WC Oak to reply to my questions I posted on the forum few weeks back, which will immensely help every one. Dhinakar , SHASHIKANT OAK <shashikantoak wrote: > Respected sir mr.oak, > > the photograph of your nadi leaf is vepan>ry much > > similar to that of nadi leaf i saw in the nadi astrology center(Underlining is mine) where > > i got my nadi prediction. > > My comments:- What > you have encountered in the Naadi centre is the same which every one gets to > see but everyone is more worried and anxious to know his or her predictions. > Therefore they are not bothered to verify the details with deep > inquisitiveness. Some others of different mind set have no interest to verify > the details as they have already formed up an opinion about the whole affair. > >  one thing to i too saw my nadi > leaf the script are very > > much cryptographic. in my nadi prediction they gave my lagna or > > ascendent position in my horoscope. did they give your horoscope also > > in your nadi prediction especially that lagna in your horoscope. > >  > > My comments:- > Yes. In my predictions my lagna was quoted. It was Dhanusu lagnam. Not only in > one leaf but in all the leaves taken out for me narrate the same lagna. Even in > the subsequent chapters the link of my main witnesses †" sakshi- indicated with > person’s name Shashikant with Kanni Raasi, Cittarei Nakshtram or meena and > Dhaanusu lagnam. > > In the latest case in > Pune few months back, I got leaf in Raavan Naadi with the same details. Moreover > the dots have now increased to five, some of which were latent in previous > years. However in many Naadies the lagna is not spelt out as matter of routine. > >  > >  i want you too ask another > question too. did all your prediction came > > true. for me especially bad things predicted always 100% precise. > >  > > My comments:- No. > Predictions may not come true 100%, because of various factors. > > Just like your > experience, many feel that the predictions which one does not wish to happen do > take place with certainty, but the good ones may find happening or late or > distorted or missing! In this is place, I cannot elaborate more on it. In the > conference in Pune last year many people had gathered only to find out my views > on these issues alone! > > In my Marathi book > Principal Adwayanand Galatage and I have tried to throw light on this sensitive > issue. In short, it could be said, if the Maharshies could perfectly spell out > the details of an individual before his visit, how come the predictions after > seeing or witnessing the prediction start going wrong? That means there is a > reason for it. It is incorrect to surmise that Maharishis did not know the > precise happenings of event? They were well aware of it. > > It could be vouched > by the fact that if some on sees leaf before marriage; the spouseâ €™s name is invariably > not mentioned. That does not mean that Maharshies were not aware of the concerned > names but when the same person gets chance to see leaf from same or from a different > Maharshies the name of spouse is accurately mentioned! Why because it is the > discretion of Maharishis to tell or not tell or to tell in correct or partially > correct or just to avoid by not providing his leaf. But from their point of > view, they are not divining only to please the persons. They have a larger orientation > of the picture of the happenings connected with the millions of factors to > unknown to the person. Maharshies have more onerous responsibility to honour > the Karma theory rather than just predict the events of inconsequential some > one. In this dilemma, if one feels so, Maharshies act in favour of the karma > theory which is universal guiding principle. Maharshies therefore, have not > option but to predict in such a manner that the events which are expected to > happen as per the previous Karma should happen precisely and smoothly. In > this connection, a case of one of my fellow officer late Flying Office > Dhananjay Mote is a classic example.(For details see Minute of Conference put > up on our group) > > > > I ALSO WANT TO KNOW. ARE YOU SURE THAT NADI > > ASTROLOGERS GET NADI LEAF FROM SARASWATHY MAHAL LIBRARY. I CHECKED > > THOSE SARASWATHY MAHAL LIBRAY WEB SITE BUT THERE IS NOTHING CALLED > > NADI ASTROLOGY LEAF GIVEN TO NADI ASTROLOGERS AROUND THE TAMIL NADU. > > MY COMMENTS:- I WAS A > STATE GUEST OF PRESENT HEIR - OF MAHARAJA OF TANJAVOUR. HE DEPUTED DR. VIVEKANAND, > AN INDOLOGIST AND EXPERT IN TAMIL AND MODI SCRIPT IN MARATHI. > > BOTH OF THEM > CONFIRMED THAT THERE ARE NO PALM LEAVES OF NAADI LITERATURE AVAILABLE IN THE > PRESTEGIOUS SARASWATI MAHAL LIBRARY.HOWEVER, THE STATUES OF MAHARA SARFOUJI > RAJE BHOSALE AND HIS CHIEF COUNSELLER OR MINISTER COULD BE SEEN IN THE > VAIDEESHWARAN TEMPLE ,WHEN ONE PROCEEDS TOWARDS WATERTANK. > > > > > > i personally feel that the nadi leaves are possions of nadi > > astrologers for centuaries but they faking it as if they are getting > > it from saraswathy mahal libray. once all the person get there nadi > > predcitions from respective nadi leaves the leaf should be thrown out. > > > > but they keep it with them and give wrong nadi predictions for > > people who dont have nadi leaf for them. > > My comments: - Just > to glorify the importance of their profession many take the shelter of that > argument. > > Some comments have > been made regarding the Sun TV’s exposure that the leaves are being written > even now and not in ancient times, therefore Naadi perditions are fakes. One should > agree that argument straight way. But in practice, the person for whom the leaf > is found out, (which is supposed to have been written by some present or recent > writers) the client confirm the details mentioned in it. If the names, DoB and > other vital information are coming true, confirmed as 100% accurate. Even them, > it is a matter of intense investigation and not an act of mere denouncement or > deride. > > I earnestly request to > give a deep and serious look in that photograph. And try to decode the letters > indicating as ‘Shashikant’. > By chance the lines have been cut in between. Please rectify the same. > > > > >  Wing Commander Shashikant Oak. Mo No: 0991901049, Pune. India. > > --- रवि, 28/9/08 को, jsebastian88 <jsebastian88 à¤¨à ¥‡ लिखा: > दà¥à¤µà¤¾à¤°à¤¾: jsebastian88 <jsebastian88 > विषय: Re: Decoding of Naadi palm leaf Photograph .( to mr.oak) > > दिनांक: रविवार, 28 सितंबर, 2008, 6:40 PM > > > > > Respected sir mr.oak, > > the photograph of your nadi leaf is very much > > similar to that of nadi leaf i saw in the nadi astrology center where > > i got my nadi prediction.i too saw my nadi leaf the script are very > > much cryptographic. in my nadi prediction they gave my lagna or > > ascendent position in my horoscope. did they give your horoscope also > > in your nadi prediction especially that lagna in your horoscope. i > > want you too ask another question too. did all your prediction came > > true.for me especially bad things predicted always 100% precise. > > > > I ALSO WANT TO KNOW. ARE YOU SURE THAT NADI > > ASTROLOGERS GET NADI LEAF FROM SARASWATHY MAHAL LIBRARY. I CHECKED > > THOSE SARASWATHY MAHAL LIBRAY WEB SITE BUT THERE IS NOTHING CALLED > > NADI ASTROLOGY LEAF GIVEN TO NADI ASTROLOGERS AROUND THE TAMIL NADU. > > > > i personally feel that the nadi leaves are possions of nadi > > astrologers for centuaries but they faking it as if they are getting > > it from saraswathy mahal libray. once all the person get there nadi > > predcitions from respective nadi leaves the leaf should be thrown out. > > > > but they keep it with them and give wrong nadi predictions for > > people who dont have nadi leaf for them. > > > > , SHASHIKANT OAK > > <shashikantoak@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Well, I understand. > > > But keep trying! > > >  Wing Commander Shashikant Oak. Mo No: 0991901049, Pune. India. > > > > > > --- शनि, 27/9/08 को, Hariharan S <hariharan_sm@ ...> à ¤¨à¥‡ > > लिखा: > > > दà¥à¤µà¤¾à¤°à¤¾: Hariharan S <hariharan_sm@ ...> > > > विषय: RE: Decoding of Naadi palm leaf > > Photograph . > > > > > > दिनांक: शनिवार, 27 सितंबर, 2008, > > 10:45 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Oak, > > > > > >  > > > > > > Even Its very difficult for a Tamilian to Decipher it. > > > > > > Thank you, > > >  > > > Sincerly, > > >  > > > S. Hariharan > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shashikantoak@ .co. in > > > Sat, 27 Sep 2008 16:03:35 +0000 > > > Decoding of Naadi palm leaf Photograph . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > >  Especially those are conversant with Tamil Script, > > > > > > Photograph of Naadi palm leaf of Shashikant > > > > > > Please click the link. Try and see what can you make out of . > > The word by word translation is appended below. With the help of the > > words noted, it is requested to decipher the script. If not all > > lines at least some lines, words, letters. > > > > > > Line > > > 1 )   kanthan(KE SHASHI KANTH PERTHA) KUM > > > 2)   yo(KAM MEL ENNA) annam > > > 3)    kal (uyarayul pelape)rumal > > > 4)    se(IGHI YADHA THA)dai > > > 5)    seikau(KUKUS AWASTHAI PI)ni > > > 6)    perthil( lLAVANAKKAL PO)kka > > > 7)   saithidamel( KARI VANAKAMA A)wani > > > 8)   e(THREE MIGHUM YO)ghan > > > 9)   kan(THANUKKU THELIVU THO)NDU > > >   > > > Note :- The capital letters in the bracket are clearly sen in he > > photograph. TH letters out side the bracket are for reference. Hence > > broken meaning could be derived. With the help of pronunciation > > provided they are expected to understand meaning and exact location of > > my name. > > > > > > > > > This is an attempt to provide the evidence for those who presume > > that there is nothing written worth reading on the leaf except > > some scribblings just as deception. > > > If the matter purported to be available on the palm leaf. Some > > more proofs could be gathered to substantiate the point of view > > further. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on > > http://help. / l/in// mail/mail/ tools/tools- 08.html/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://in.messenger./invite/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 dear wing commdr. oak, what is prashna kandam? is it person specific? sanjay kishore Download prohibited? No problem. CHAT from any browser, without download. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 Dear Mr. Sanjay, Prasanam is a Malayalam word derived from Tamil Word prasana which means appear on the virtue and on one's wish. In prasana chapter, if you ask questions, you will get replies on the spot. Also there is a chapter call perchanai or problem chapter which deals only with problems and ways to solve them. Nowadays in Kerala they don't go by leafs for prasanam but they go by vedic and tantric systems to find out solutions. Dhinakar ________________________________ > > sanjay_sarmera > Mon, 29 Sep 2008 12:27:41 +0530 > Re: Re: Decoding of Naadi palm leaf Photograph .( FROM mr.oak) > > > dear wing commdr. oak, > what is prashna kandam? is it person specific? > sanjay kishore > > > ________________________________ > Download prohibited? No problem. CHAT from any browser, without download. > > _______________ Want to explore the world? Visit MSN Travel for the best deals. http://in.msn.com/coxandkings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 Dear Dhinkarji, Thanks or your reply. And sorting out addressing with the rank and not by Mr or Shri. 1)Your post have cleared many issues. However I have somehow missed you some points posted on the group. Could you kidly forward them? Regarding the decoding the photograph what would you make out of it? I have high hopes from You an other learned Tamilians in this regard. , " rdhinakar4477 " <dhinakarrajaram wrote: > > Wing Commander's reply has cleared some of my doubts and also confirms > my last posts on the issue. On this juncture, I request WC Oak to > reply to my questions I posted on the forum few weeks back, which will immensely help every one. > > Dhinakar > > , SHASHIKANT OAK > <shashikantoak@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected sir mr.oak, > > > > the photograph of your nadi leaf is vepan>ry much > > > > similar to that of nadi leaf i saw in the nadi astrology > center(Underlining is mine) where > > > > i got my nadi prediction. > > > > My comments:- What > > you have encountered in the Naadi centre is the same which every one > gets to > > see but everyone is more worried and anxious to know his or her > predictions. > > Therefore they are not bothered to verify the details with deep > > inquisitiveness. Some others of different mind set have no interest > to verify > > the details as they have already formed up an opinion about the > whole affair. > > > >  one thing to i too saw my nadi > > leaf the script are very > > > > much cryptographic. in my nadi prediction they gave my lagna or > > > > ascendent position in my horoscope. did they give your horoscope > also > > > > in your nadi prediction especially that lagna in your horoscope. > > > >  > > > > My comments:- > > Yes. In my predictions my lagna was quoted. It was Dhanusu lagnam. > Not only in > > one leaf but in all the leaves taken out for me narrate the same > lagna. Even in > > the subsequent chapters the link of my main witnesses †" sakshi- > indicated with > > person’s name Shashikant with Kanni Raasi, Cittarei Nakshtram or > meena and > > Dhaanusu lagnam. > > > > In the latest case in > > Pune few months back, I got leaf in Raavan Naadi with the same > details. Moreover > > the dots have now increased to five, some of which were latent in > previous > > years. However in many Naadies the lagna is not spelt out as matter > of routine. > > > >  > > > >  i want you too ask another > > question too. did all your prediction came > > > > true. for me especially bad things predicted always 100% precise. > > > >  > > > > My comments:- No. > > Predictions may not come true 100%, because of various factors. > > > > Just like your > > experience, many feel that the predictions which one does not wish > to happen do > > take place with certainty, but the good ones may find happening or > late or > > distorted or missing! In this is place, I cannot elaborate more on > it. In the > > conference in Pune last year many people had gathered only to find > out my views > > on these issues alone! > > > > In my Marathi book > > Principal Adwayanand Galatage and I have tried to throw light on > this sensitive > > issue. In short, it could be said, if the Maharshies could perfectly > spell out > > the details of an individual before his visit, how come the > predictions after > > seeing or witnessing the prediction start going wrong? That means > there is a > > reason for it. It is incorrect to surmise that Maharishis did not > know the > > precise happenings of event? They were well aware of it. > > > > It could be vouched > > by the fact that if some on sees leaf before marriage; the spouseâ > €™s name is invariably > > not mentioned. That does not mean that Maharshies were not aware of > the concerned > > names but when the same person gets chance to see leaf from same or > from a different > > Maharshies the name of spouse is accurately mentioned! Why because > it is the > > discretion of Maharishis to tell or not tell or to tell in correct > or partially > > correct or just to avoid by not providing his leaf. But from their > point of > > view, they are not divining only to please the persons. They have a > larger orientation > > of the picture of the happenings connected with the millions of > factors to > > unknown to the person. Maharshies have more onerous responsibility > to honour > > the Karma theory rather than just predict the events of > inconsequential some > > one. In this dilemma, if one feels so, Maharshies act in favour of > the karma > > theory which is universal guiding principle. Maharshies therefore, > have not > > option but to predict in such a manner that the events which are > expected to > > happen as per the previous Karma should happen precisely and > smoothly. In > > this connection, a case of one of my fellow officer late Flying > Office > > Dhananjay Mote is a classic example.(For details see Minute of > Conference put > > up on our group) > > > > > > > > I ALSO WANT TO KNOW. ARE YOU SURE THAT NADI > > > > ASTROLOGERS GET NADI LEAF FROM SARASWATHY MAHAL LIBRARY. I CHECKED > > > > THOSE SARASWATHY MAHAL LIBRAY WEB SITE BUT THERE IS NOTHING CALLED > > > > NADI ASTROLOGY LEAF GIVEN TO NADI ASTROLOGERS AROUND THE TAMIL NADU. > > > > MY COMMENTS:- I WAS A > > STATE GUEST OF PRESENT HEIR - OF MAHARAJA OF TANJAVOUR. HE DEPUTED > DR. VIVEKANAND, > > AN INDOLOGIST AND EXPERT IN TAMIL AND MODI SCRIPT IN MARATHI. > > > > BOTH OF THEM > > CONFIRMED THAT THERE ARE NO PALM LEAVES OF NAADI LITERATURE > AVAILABLE IN THE > > PRESTEGIOUS SARASWATI MAHAL LIBRARY.HOWEVER, THE STATUES OF MAHARA > SARFOUJI > > RAJE BHOSALE AND HIS CHIEF COUNSELLER OR MINISTER COULD BE SEEN IN > THE > > VAIDEESHWARAN TEMPLE ,WHEN ONE PROCEEDS TOWARDS WATERTANK. > > > > > > > > > > > > i personally feel that the nadi leaves are possions of nadi > > > > astrologers for centuaries but they faking it as if they are getting > > > > it from saraswathy mahal libray. once all the person get there nadi > > > > predcitions from respective nadi leaves the leaf should be thrown > out. > > > > > > > > but they keep it with them and give wrong nadi predictions for > > > > people who dont have nadi leaf for them. > > > > My comments: - Just > > to glorify the importance of their profession many take the shelter > of that > > argument. > > > > Some comments have > > been made regarding the Sun TV’s exposure that the leaves are > being written > > even now and not in ancient times, therefore Naadi perditions are > fakes. One should > > agree that argument straight way. But in practice, the person for > whom the leaf > > is found out, (which is supposed to have been written by some > present or recent > > writers) the client confirm the details mentioned in it. If the > names, DoB and > > other vital information are coming true, confirmed as 100% accurate. > Even them, > > it is a matter of intense investigation and not an act of mere > denouncement or > > deride. > > > > I earnestly request to > > give a deep and serious look in that photograph. And try to decode > the letters > > indicating as ‘Shashikant’. > > By chance the lines have been cut in between. Please rectify the > same. > > > > > > > > > >  Wing Commander Shashikant Oak. Mo No: 0991901049, Pune. India. > > > > --- रवि, 28/9/08 को, jsebastian88 <jsebastian88@> नà > ¥‡ लिखा: > > दà¥à¤µà¤¾à¤°à¤¾: jsebastian88 <jsebastian88@> > > विषय: Re: Decoding of Naadi palm leaf > Photograph .( to mr.oak) > > > > दिनांक: रविवार, 28 सितंबर, 2008, > 6:40 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected sir mr.oak, > > > > the photograph of your nadi leaf is very much > > > > similar to that of nadi leaf i saw in the nadi astrology center > where > > > > i got my nadi prediction.i too saw my nadi leaf the script are very > > > > much cryptographic. in my nadi prediction they gave my lagna or > > > > ascendent position in my horoscope. did they give your horoscope > also > > > > in your nadi prediction especially that lagna in your horoscope. i > > > > want you too ask another question too. did all your prediction came > > > > true.for me especially bad things predicted always 100% precise. > > > > > > > > I ALSO WANT TO KNOW. ARE YOU SURE THAT NADI > > > > ASTROLOGERS GET NADI LEAF FROM SARASWATHY MAHAL LIBRARY. I CHECKED > > > > THOSE SARASWATHY MAHAL LIBRAY WEB SITE BUT THERE IS NOTHING CALLED > > > > NADI ASTROLOGY LEAF GIVEN TO NADI ASTROLOGERS AROUND THE TAMIL NADU. > > > > > > > > i personally feel that the nadi leaves are possions of nadi > > > > astrologers for centuaries but they faking it as if they are getting > > > > it from saraswathy mahal libray. once all the person get there nadi > > > > predcitions from respective nadi leaves the leaf should be thrown > out. > > > > > > > > but they keep it with them and give wrong nadi predictions for > > > > people who dont have nadi leaf for them. > > > > > > > > , SHASHIKANT OAK > > > > <shashikantoak@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Well, I understand. > > > > > But keep trying! > > > > >  Wing Commander Shashikant Oak. Mo No: 0991901049, Pune. India. > > > > > > > > > > --- शनि, 27/9/08 को, Hariharan S <hariharan_sm@ ...> à > ¤¨à¥‡ > > > > लिखा: > > > > > दà¥à¤µà¤¾à¤°à¤¾: Hariharan S <hariharan_sm@ ...> > > > > > विषय: RE: Decoding of Naadi palm leaf > > > > Photograph . > > > > > > > > > > दिनांक: शनिवार, 27 सितंबर, > 2008, > > > > 10:45 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Oak, > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Even Its very difficult for a Tamilian to Decipher it. > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > >  > > > > > Sincerly, > > > > >  > > > > > S. Hariharan > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shashikantoak@ .co. in > > > > > Sat, 27 Sep 2008 16:03:35 +0000 > > > > > Decoding of Naadi palm leaf Photograph . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > >  Especially those are conversant with Tamil Script, > > > > > > > > > > Photograph of Naadi palm leaf of Shashikant > > > > > > > > > > Please click the link. Try and see what can you make out of . > > > > The word by word translation is appended below. With the help of the > > > > words noted, it is requested to decipher the script. If not all > > > > lines at least some lines, words, letters. > > > > > > > > > > Line > > > > > 1 )   kanthan(KE SHASHI KANTH PERTHA) KUM > > > > > 2)   yo(KAM MEL ENNA) annam > > > > > 3)    kal (uyarayul pelape)rumal > > > > > 4)    se(IGHI YADHA THA)dai > > > > > 5)    seikau(KUKUS AWASTHAI PI)ni > > > > > 6)    perthil( lLAVANAKKAL PO)kka > > > > > 7)   saithidamel( KARI VANAKAMA A)wani > > > > > 8)   e(THREE MIGHUM YO)ghan > > > > > 9)   kan(THANUKKU THELIVU THO)NDU > > > > >   > > > > > Note :- The capital letters in the bracket are clearly sen in he > > > > photograph. TH letters out side the bracket are for reference. Hence > > > > broken meaning could be derived. With the help of pronunciation > > > > provided they are expected to understand meaning and exact location > of > > > > my name. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is an attempt to provide the evidence for those who presume > > > > that there is nothing written worth reading on the leaf except > > > > some scribblings just as deception. > > > > > If the matter purported to be available on the palm leaf. Some > > > > more proofs could be gathered to substantiate the point of view > > > > further. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on > > > > http://help. / l/in// mail/mail/ tools/tools- > 08.html/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > http://in.messenger./invite/ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2008 Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 dear sri dhinakar, Thanks for the information.As I contacted nadi center at gurgaon they informed that the questions asked will be answered from the copy already given to me.Do we have separate nadi leaves specific to a person for questions only?Please enlighten.I will be sharing my experience of gurgaon nadi center in coming months. thanks sanjay kishore Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2008 Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 Prachanai chapter and prasanam chapter nothing to do with your already seen leaf as these are entirely different. If you need more information kindly contact WC Oak, he may explain more efficiently. Dhinakar ________________________________ > > sanjay_sarmera > Tue, 30 Sep 2008 10:50:32 +0530 > RE: Re: Decoding of Naadi palm leaf Photograph .( FROM mr.oak) > > > dear sri dhinakar, > Thanks for the information.As I contacted nadi center at gurgaon they informed that the questions asked will be answered from the copy already given to me.Do we have separate nadi leaves specific to a person for questions only?Please enlighten.I will be sharing my experience of gurgaon nadi center in coming months. > thanks > sanjay kishore > > > ________________________________ > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now > > _______________ Searching for weekend getaways? Try Live.com http://www.live.com/?scope=video & form=MICOAL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2008 Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 30/09/2008 Dear Mr. Sanjay, further to your query and my reply, today evening I met a naadi reader near my house. He says he is reading Agastiya and kousika nadi. I asked him are you reading prasanam chapter, he said yes. I asked him how much he charge, he told me he is charging Rs.300/- and you can ask maximum 7 questions. And one has to bring his old book or tape. When I questioned this, he told me the book or tape is needed to identify the thumb and also to find out whether the answers are already in the book. Here a question will arise: 1. Suppose we ask a question for which already some form of indication is given in the book we already have, and there is a possibility that the reader may get a hint from the book and reply us. 2. He can also get lot of information from the book and may give reply from that as off the prasanam chapter. He told me to come in a morning after 10am but before 6pm any day. Now I ask WC Oak to expatiate on the above points as well as your points. I went to him (reader) to confirm your points, as what you informed was peculiar, as it is my policy to go into the facts and satisfy myself. Hope WC Oak will reply to the both question of you and mine. I intend to check him on 2nd or 3rd. I also asked him, as I saw the pattis in Congivaram, and will you be able to reply, he told yes. And also I asked him, whether any other rishis would have written about me, for that also he replied yes. The guy is in Elango Nagar, Virugambakkam, Chennai - 92. So, it is now WC Oak has to clear our doubts as he alredy have seen prasanam chapters. Regards Dhinakar Rajaram Iyer ________________________________ > > sanjay_sarmera > Mon, 29 Sep 2008 12:27:41 +0530 > Re: Re: Decoding of Naadi palm leaf Photograph .( FROM mr.oak) > > > dear wing commdr. oak, > what is prashna kandam? is it person specific? > sanjay kishore > > > ________________________________ > Download prohibited? No problem. CHAT from any browser, without download. > > _______________ Movies, sports & news! Get your daily entertainment fix, only on live.com http://www.live.com/?scope=video & form=MICOAL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 dear sri dhinakar, Thanks for the reply.My nadi reader also told me that I can ask 5 questions.He did not inform me about the cost of the same,of course he informed me that I have to bring my book.I will also request w.c. oak to clarify on above as I got to know about this chapter from his book only which I recently bought and read. good day sanjay kishore Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 mr. oak please clarify about the remedies. have you ever avoided remedies which were suggested by the nadi ?is it obligatory to perform remedy. have u heard of cases where people have borrowed money to do remedies and then suffered for years by paying the intrest on burrowed money , as prediction did not come true ? nitin Recent Activity 20 New Members 1 New Photos 1 New Links Visit Your Group Finance It's Now Personal Guides, news, advice & more. New business? Get new customers. List your web site in Search. Check out the Y! Groups blog Stay up to speed on all things Groups! . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 Before Wing Commander Oak can reply, I request you to kindly see my previous posts. My posts were intended to clarify many such questions for which I found an answer as I too had same feeling. Further part of the post to be filled by WC Oak. Dhinakar PS: Please address the Armed forces people by their rank and addressing them by civilian citations is a insult to their Rank. ________________________________ > > ecstacymaster > Wed, 1 Oct 2008 21:08:29 +0530 > Re: Re: Decoding of Naadi palm leaf Photograph .( FROM mr.oak) > > > mr. oak > please clarify about the remedies. have you ever avoided remedies which were suggested by the nadi ? > is it obligatory to perform remedy. > have u heard of cases where people have borrowed money to do remedies and then suffered for years by paying the intrest on burrowed money , as prediction did not come true ? > > nitin > > Recent Activity > > * > 20 > New Members > * > 1 > New Photos > * > 1 > New Links > > Visit Your Group > Finance > > It's Now Personal > > Guides, news, > > advice & more. > > New business? > > Get new customers. > > List your web site > > in Search. > > Check out the > > Y! Groups blog > > Stay up to speed > > on all things Groups! > > . > > > > _______________ Movies, sports & news! Get your daily entertainment fix, only on live.com http://www.live.com/?scope=video & form=MICOAL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 Dear Friends,Reference to some clarifications sought by Shri Nitin.please clarify about the remedies. > is it obligatory to perform remedy.My Comments: The very purpose of seeing the Naadi predictions is to perform the rituals suggested by the Maharishies as per the order and with devotion.>have you ever avoided remedies which were suggested by the nadi ?. >My comments :- No, but has performed as per the convenience of my duties. have u heard of cases where people have borrowed money to do remedies and then suffered for years by paying the intrest on burrowed money , as prediction did not come true ?My comments :- Yes on many occasions. people have gone with friends with his money and patronage. Many have got the railway fare paid by the Naadi centre. which was to be later reimbursed. Many a times Naadi centres have done Puja for some client as per instructions. in the leaf.That the remedies do not work out as an immediate result is general complaint. It is not a wand of Magic that it transform the scenario in some moments. But it is very slow process. Some times it is so slow that one forgets about the performance of Pujas done years back. Some times more than one remedies are required to perform . There is no fixed method for this. However it is the wish of the individual to perform with full devotion or do not to perform Shanti Deeksha completely.If done with half devotion or belief the result may be lukewarm. Wing Commander Shashikant Oak. Mo No: 0991901049, Pune. India.--- बà¥à¤§, 1/10/08 को, Dhinakar Rajaram <dhinakarrajaram ने लिखा:दà¥à¤µà¤¾à¤°à¤¾: Dhinakar Rajaram <dhinakarrajaramविषय: RE: Re: Decoding of Naadi palm leaf Photograph .( FROM mr.oak) दिनांक: बà¥à¤§à¤µà¤¾à¤°, 1 अकà¥à¤Ÿà¥‚बर, 2008, 11:34 PM Before Wing Commander Oak can reply, I request you to kindly see my previous posts. My posts were intended to clarify many such questions for which I found an answer as I too had same feeling. Further part of the post to be filled by WC Oak. Dhinakar PS: Please address the Armed forces people by their rank and addressing them by civilian citations is a insult to their Rank. ____________ _________ _________ __ > > ecstacymaster@ gmail.com > Wed, 1 Oct 2008 21:08:29 +0530 > Re: Re: Decoding of Naadi palm leaf Photograph .( FROM mr.oak) > > > mr. oak > please clarify about the remedies. have you ever avoided remedies which were suggested by the nadi ? > is it obligatory to perform remedy. > have u heard of cases where people have borrowed money to do remedies and then suffered for years by paying the intrest on burrowed money , as prediction did not come true ? > > nitin > > Recent Activity > > * > 20 > New Members > * > 1 > New Photos > * > 1 > New Links > > Visit Your Group > Finance > > It's Now Personal > > Guides, news, > > advice & more. > > New business? > > Get new customers. > > List your web site > > in Search. > > Check out the > > Y! Groups blog > > Stay up to speed > > on all things Groups! > > . > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ Movies, sports & news! Get your daily entertainment fix, only on live.com http://www.live. com/?scope= video & form= MICOAL Get your own website and domain for just Rs.1,999/year.* Click here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2008 Report Share Posted October 6, 2008 dear mr. oak thank u for reply. i feel the same too. and i would again like to appriciate ur graet work done in this field. i have said this to the members earlier too. about the yantras which nadi readers prepare and give , they say that yantras have to be regularly shown incence(agarbatti). now if one does not show incence to them regularly and does not clean them regularly and they catch dust in few weeks. then ? have u asked some reader about this ? another clarification about tne nadi anshas. It is said that the nadis are based on anshas( minute arc of angle) But the readers never talk in terms of anshas. nadi readings always talk about gochar jupiter and saturn . the gochar concept is so gross and general . it is not minute. why dont the nadi readings talk in terms of anshas ? Nitin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2008 Report Share Posted October 20, 2008 Request letter. for helping to decode the name 'Shashikanth' in the leaf photograph. , " WING COMMANDER (Retd) SHASHIKANT OAK " <shashikantoak wrote: > > > > Dear Dhinkarji, > > > > Thanks or your reply. And sorting out addressing with the rank and not > by Mr or Shri. > 1)Your post have cleared many issues. However I have somehow missed > you some points posted on the group. > Could you kidly forward them? > Regarding the decoding the photograph what would you make out of it? I > have high hopes from You an other learned Tamilians in this regard. > > > > , " rdhinakar4477 " > <dhinakarrajaram@> wrote: > > > > Wing Commander's reply has cleared some of my doubts and also confirms > > my last posts on the issue. On this juncture, I request WC Oak to > > reply to my questions I posted on the forum few weeks back, which > will immensely help every one. > > > > Dhinakar > > > > , SHASHIKANT OAK > > <shashikantoak@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected sir mr.oak, > > > > > > the photograph of your nadi leaf is vepan>ry much > > > > > > similar to that of nadi leaf i saw in the nadi astrology > > center(Underlining is mine) where > > > > > > i got my nadi prediction. > > > > > > My comments:- What > > > you have encountered in the Naadi centre is the same which every one > > gets to > > > see but everyone is more worried and anxious to know his or her > > predictions. > > > Therefore they are not bothered to verify the details with deep > > > inquisitiveness. Some others of different mind set have no interest > > to verify > > > the details as they have already formed up an opinion about the > > whole affair. > > > > > >  one thing to i too saw my nadi > > > leaf the script are very > > > > > > much cryptographic. in my nadi prediction they gave my lagna or > > > > > > ascendent position in my horoscope. did they give your horoscope > > also > > > > > > in your nadi prediction especially that lagna in your horoscope. > > > > > >  > > > > > > My comments:- > > > Yes. In my predictions my lagna was quoted. It was Dhanusu lagnam. > > Not only in > > > one leaf but in all the leaves taken out for me narrate the same > > lagna. Even in > > > the subsequent chapters the link of my main witnesses †" sakshi- > > indicated with > > > person’s name Shashikant with Kanni Raasi, Cittarei Nakshtram or > > meena and > > > Dhaanusu lagnam. > > > > > > In the latest case in > > > Pune few months back, I got leaf in Raavan Naadi with the same > > details. Moreover > > > the dots have now increased to five, some of which were latent in > > previous > > > years. However in many Naadies the lagna is not spelt out as matter > > of routine. > > > > > >  > > > > > >  i want you too ask another > > > question too. did all your prediction came > > > > > > true. for me especially bad things predicted always 100% precise. > > > > > >  > > > > > > My comments:- No. > > > Predictions may not come true 100%, because of various factors. > > > > > > Just like your > > > experience, many feel that the predictions which one does not wish > > to happen do > > > take place with certainty, but the good ones may find happening or > > late or > > > distorted or missing! In this is place, I cannot elaborate more on > > it. In the > > > conference in Pune last year many people had gathered only to find > > out my views > > > on these issues alone! > > > > > > In my Marathi book > > > Principal Adwayanand Galatage and I have tried to throw light on > > this sensitive > > > issue. In short, it could be said, if the Maharshies could perfectly > > spell out > > > the details of an individual before his visit, how come the > > predictions after > > > seeing or witnessing the prediction start going wrong? That means > > there is a > > > reason for it. It is incorrect to surmise that Maharishis did not > > know the > > > precise happenings of event? They were well aware of it. > > > > > > It could be vouched > > > by the fact that if some on sees leaf before marriage; the spouseâ > > €™s name is invariably > > > not mentioned. That does not mean that Maharshies were not aware of > > the concerned > > > names but when the same person gets chance to see leaf from same or > > from a different > > > Maharshies the name of spouse is accurately mentioned! Why because > > it is the > > > discretion of Maharishis to tell or not tell or to tell in correct > > or partially > > > correct or just to avoid by not providing his leaf. But from their > > point of > > > view, they are not divining only to please the persons. They have a > > larger orientation > > > of the picture of the happenings connected with the millions of > > factors to > > > unknown to the person. Maharshies have more onerous responsibility > > to honour > > > the Karma theory rather than just predict the events of > > inconsequential some > > > one. In this dilemma, if one feels so, Maharshies act in favour of > > the karma > > > theory which is universal guiding principle. Maharshies therefore, > > have not > > > option but to predict in such a manner that the events which are > > expected to > > > happen as per the previous Karma should happen precisely and > > smoothly. In > > > this connection, a case of one of my fellow officer late Flying > > Office > > > Dhananjay Mote is a classic example.(For details see Minute of > > Conference put > > > up on our group) > > > > > > > > > > > > I ALSO WANT TO KNOW. ARE YOU SURE THAT NADI > > > > > > ASTROLOGERS GET NADI LEAF FROM SARASWATHY MAHAL LIBRARY. I CHECKED > > > > > > THOSE SARASWATHY MAHAL LIBRAY WEB SITE BUT THERE IS NOTHING CALLED > > > > > > NADI ASTROLOGY LEAF GIVEN TO NADI ASTROLOGERS AROUND THE TAMIL NADU. > > > > > > MY COMMENTS:- I WAS A > > > STATE GUEST OF PRESENT HEIR - OF MAHARAJA OF TANJAVOUR. HE DEPUTED > > DR. VIVEKANAND, > > > AN INDOLOGIST AND EXPERT IN TAMIL AND MODI SCRIPT IN MARATHI. > > > > > > BOTH OF THEM > > > CONFIRMED THAT THERE ARE NO PALM LEAVES OF NAADI LITERATURE > > AVAILABLE IN THE > > > PRESTEGIOUS SARASWATI MAHAL LIBRARY.HOWEVER, THE STATUES OF MAHARA > > SARFOUJI > > > RAJE BHOSALE AND HIS CHIEF COUNSELLER OR MINISTER COULD BE SEEN IN > > THE > > > VAIDEESHWARAN TEMPLE ,WHEN ONE PROCEEDS TOWARDS WATERTANK. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i personally feel that the nadi leaves are possions of nadi > > > > > > astrologers for centuaries but they faking it as if they are getting > > > > > > it from saraswathy mahal libray. once all the person get there nadi > > > > > > predcitions from respective nadi leaves the leaf should be thrown > > out. > > > > > > > > > > > > but they keep it with them and give wrong nadi predictions for > > > > > > people who dont have nadi leaf for them. > > > > > > My comments: - Just > > > to glorify the importance of their profession many take the shelter > > of that > > > argument. > > > > > > Some comments have > > > been made regarding the Sun TV’s exposure that the leaves are > > being written > > > even now and not in ancient times, therefore Naadi perditions are > > fakes. One should > > > agree that argument straight way. But in practice, the person for > > whom the leaf > > > is found out, (which is supposed to have been written by some > > present or recent > > > writers) the client confirm the details mentioned in it. If the > > names, DoB and > > > other vital information are coming true, confirmed as 100% accurate. > > Even them, > > > it is a matter of intense investigation and not an act of mere > > denouncement or > > > deride. > > > > > > I earnestly request to > > > give a deep and serious look in that photograph. And try to decode > > the letters > > > indicating as ‘Shashikant’. > > > By chance the lines have been cut in between. Please rectify the > > same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  Wing Commander Shashikant Oak. Mo No: 0991901049, Pune. India. > > > > > > --- रवि, 28/9/08 को, jsebastian88 <jsebastian88@> नà > > ¥‡ लिखा: > > > दà¥à¤µà¤¾à¤°à¤¾: jsebastian88 <jsebastian88@> > > > विषय: Re: Decoding of Naadi palm leaf > > Photograph .( to mr.oak) > > > > > > दिनांक: रविवार, 28 सितंबर, 2008, > > 6:40 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected sir mr.oak, > > > > > > the photograph of your nadi leaf is very much > > > > > > similar to that of nadi leaf i saw in the nadi astrology center > > where > > > > > > i got my nadi prediction.i too saw my nadi leaf the script are very > > > > > > much cryptographic. in my nadi prediction they gave my lagna or > > > > > > ascendent position in my horoscope. did they give your horoscope > > also > > > > > > in your nadi prediction especially that lagna in your horoscope. i > > > > > > want you too ask another question too. did all your prediction came > > > > > > true.for me especially bad things predicted always 100% precise. > > > > > > > > > > > > I ALSO WANT TO KNOW. ARE YOU SURE THAT NADI > > > > > > ASTROLOGERS GET NADI LEAF FROM SARASWATHY MAHAL LIBRARY. I CHECKED > > > > > > THOSE SARASWATHY MAHAL LIBRAY WEB SITE BUT THERE IS NOTHING CALLED > > > > > > NADI ASTROLOGY LEAF GIVEN TO NADI ASTROLOGERS AROUND THE TAMIL NADU. > > > > > > > > > > > > i personally feel that the nadi leaves are possions of nadi > > > > > > astrologers for centuaries but they faking it as if they are getting > > > > > > it from saraswathy mahal libray. once all the person get there nadi > > > > > > predcitions from respective nadi leaves the leaf should be thrown > > out. > > > > > > > > > > > > but they keep it with them and give wrong nadi predictions for > > > > > > people who dont have nadi leaf for them. > > > > > > > > > > > > , SHASHIKANT OAK > > > > > > <shashikantoak@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, I understand. > > > > > > > But keep trying! > > > > > > >  Wing Commander Shashikant Oak. Mo No: 0991901049, Pune. India. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- शनि, 27/9/08 को, Hariharan S <hariharan_sm@ ...> à > > ¤¨à¥‡ > > > > > > लिखा: > > > > > > > दà¥à¤µà¤¾à¤°à¤¾: Hariharan S <hariharan_sm@ ...> > > > > > > > विषय: RE: Decoding of Naadi palm leaf > > > > > > Photograph . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > दिनांक: शनिवार, 27 सितंबर, > > 2008, > > > > > > 10:45 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Oak, > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even Its very difficult for a Tamilian to Decipher it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > Sincerly, > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > S. Hariharan > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shashikantoak@ .co. in > > > > > > > Sat, 27 Sep 2008 16:03:35 +0000 > > > > > > > Decoding of Naadi palm leaf Photograph . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > >  Especially those are conversant with Tamil Script, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Photograph of Naadi palm leaf of Shashikant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please click the link. Try and see what can you make out of . > > > > > > The word by word translation is appended below. With the help of the > > > > > > words noted, it is requested to decipher the script. If not all > > > > > > lines at least some lines, words, letters. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Line > > > > > > > 1 )   kanthan(KE SHASHI KANTH PERTHA) KUM > > > > > > > 2)   yo(KAM MEL ENNA) annam > > > > > > > 3)    kal (uyarayul pelape)rumal > > > > > > > 4)    se(IGHI YADHA THA)dai > > > > > > > 5)    seikau(KUKUS AWASTHAI PI)ni > > > > > > > 6)    perthil( lLAVANAKKAL PO)kka > > > > > > > 7)   saithidamel( KARI VANAKAMA A)wani > > > > > > > 8)   e(THREE MIGHUM YO)ghan > > > > > > > 9)   kan(THANUKKU THELIVU THO)NDU > > > > > > >   > > > > > > > Note :- The capital letters in the bracket are clearly sen in he > > > > > > photograph. TH letters out side the bracket are for reference. Hence > > > > > > broken meaning could be derived. With the help of pronunciation > > > > > > provided they are expected to understand meaning and exact location > > of > > > > > > my name. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is an attempt to provide the evidence for those who presume > > > > > > that there is nothing written worth reading on the leaf except > > > > > > some scribblings just as deception. > > > > > > > If the matter purported to be available on the palm leaf. Some > > > > > > more proofs could be gathered to substantiate the point of view > > > > > > further. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. 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