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Wing Commander's reply has cleared some of my doubts and also confirms

my last posts on the issue. On this juncture, I request WC Oak to

reply to my questions I posted on the forum few weeks back, which will immensely

help every one.

 

Dhinakar

 

, SHASHIKANT OAK

<shashikantoak wrote:

>

Respected sir mr.oak,

>

> the photograph of your nadi leaf is vepan>ry much

>

> similar to that of nadi leaf i saw in the nadi astrology

center(Underlining is mine) where

>

> i got my nadi prediction.

>

> My comments:- What

> you have encountered in the Naadi centre is the same which every one

gets to

> see but everyone is more worried and anxious to know his or her

predictions.

> Therefore they are not bothered to verify the details with deep

> inquisitiveness. Some others of different mind set have no interest

to verify

> the details as they have already formed up an opinion about the

whole affair.

>

>  one thing to i too saw my nadi

> leaf the script are very

>

> much cryptographic. in my nadi prediction they gave my lagna or

>

> ascendent position in my horoscope. did they give your horoscope

also

>

> in your nadi prediction especially that lagna in your horoscope.

>

>  

>

> My comments:- 

> Yes. In my predictions my lagna was quoted. It was Dhanusu lagnam.

Not only in

> one leaf but in all the leaves taken out for me narrate the same

lagna. Even in

> the subsequent chapters the link of my main witnesses †" sakshi-

indicated with

> person’s name Shashikant with Kanni Raasi, Cittarei Nakshtram or

meena and

> Dhaanusu lagnam.

>

> In the latest case in

> Pune few months back, I got leaf in Raavan Naadi with the same

details. Moreover

> the dots have now increased to five, some of which were latent in

previous

> years. However in many Naadies the lagna is not spelt out as matter

of routine.

>

>  

>

>  i want you too ask another

> question too. did all your prediction came

>

> true. for me especially bad things predicted always 100% precise.

>

>  

>

> My comments:- No.

> Predictions may not come true 100%, because of various factors.

>

> Just like your

> experience, many feel that the predictions which one does not wish

to happen do

> take place with certainty, but the good ones may find happening or

late or

> distorted or missing! In this is place, I cannot elaborate more on

it. In the

> conference in Pune last year many people had gathered only to find

out my views

> on these issues alone!

>

> In my Marathi book

> Principal Adwayanand Galatage and I have tried to throw light on

this sensitive

> issue. In short, it could be said, if the Maharshies could perfectly

spell out

> the details of an individual before his visit, how come the

predictions after

> seeing or witnessing the prediction start going wrong? That means

there is a

> reason for it. It is incorrect to surmise that Maharishis did not

know the

> precise happenings of event? They were well aware of it.

>

> It could be vouched

> by the fact that if some on sees leaf before marriage; the spouseâ

€™s name is invariably

> not mentioned. That does not mean that Maharshies were not aware of

the concerned

> names but when the same person gets chance to see leaf from same or

from a different

> Maharshies the name of spouse is accurately mentioned! Why because

it is the

> discretion of Maharishis to tell or not tell or to tell in correct

or partially

> correct or just to avoid by not providing his leaf. But from their

point of

> view, they are not divining only to please the persons. They have a

larger orientation

> of the picture of the happenings connected with the millions of

factors to

> unknown to the person. Maharshies have more onerous responsibility

to honour

> the Karma theory rather than just predict the events of

inconsequential some

> one. In this dilemma, if one feels so, Maharshies act in favour of

the karma

> theory which is universal guiding principle. Maharshies therefore,

have not

> option but to predict in such a manner that the events which are

expected to

> happen as per the previous Karma should happen precisely and

smoothly.  In

> this connection, a case of one of my fellow officer late Flying

Office

> Dhananjay Mote is a classic example.(For details see Minute of

Conference put

> up on our group)

>

>

>

> I ALSO WANT TO KNOW. ARE YOU SURE THAT NADI

>

> ASTROLOGERS GET NADI LEAF FROM SARASWATHY MAHAL LIBRARY. I CHECKED

>

> THOSE SARASWATHY MAHAL LIBRAY WEB SITE BUT THERE IS NOTHING CALLED

>

> NADI ASTROLOGY LEAF GIVEN TO NADI ASTROLOGERS AROUND THE TAMIL NADU.

>

> MY COMMENTS:- I WAS A

> STATE GUEST OF PRESENT HEIR - OF MAHARAJA OF TANJAVOUR. HE DEPUTED

DR. VIVEKANAND,

> AN INDOLOGIST AND EXPERT IN TAMIL AND MODI SCRIPT IN MARATHI.

>

> BOTH OF THEM

> CONFIRMED THAT THERE ARE NO PALM LEAVES OF NAADI LITERATURE

AVAILABLE IN THE

> PRESTEGIOUS SARASWATI MAHAL LIBRARY.HOWEVER, THE STATUES OF MAHARA

SARFOUJI

> RAJE BHOSALE AND HIS CHIEF COUNSELLER OR MINISTER COULD BE SEEN IN

THE

> VAIDEESHWARAN TEMPLE ,WHEN ONE PROCEEDS TOWARDS WATERTANK.

>

>

>

>

>

> i personally feel that the nadi leaves are possions of nadi

>

> astrologers for centuaries but they faking it as if they are getting

>

> it from saraswathy mahal libray. once all the person get there nadi

>

> predcitions from respective nadi leaves the leaf should be thrown

out.

>

>

>

> but they keep it with them and give wrong nadi predictions for

>

> people who dont have nadi leaf for them.

>

> My comments: - Just

> to glorify the importance of their profession many take the shelter

of that

> argument.

>

> Some comments have

> been made regarding the Sun TV’s exposure that the leaves are

being written

> even now and not in ancient times, therefore Naadi perditions are

fakes. One should

> agree that argument straight way. But in practice, the person for

whom the leaf

> is found out, (which is supposed to have been written by some

present or recent

> writers) the client confirm the details mentioned in it. If the

names, DoB and

> other vital information are coming true, confirmed as 100% accurate.

Even them,

> it is a matter of intense investigation and not an act of mere

denouncement or

> deride.

>

> I earnestly request to

> give a deep and serious look in that photograph. And try to decode

the letters

> indicating as ‘Shashikant’.

> By chance the lines have been cut in between. Please rectify the

same.

>

>

>

>

>  Wing Commander Shashikant Oak. Mo No: 0991901049, Pune. India.

>

> --- रवि, 28/9/08 को, jsebastian88 <jsebastian88 नà

¥‡ लिखा:

> दà¥à¤µà¤¾à¤°à¤¾: jsebastian88 <jsebastian88

> विषय: Re: Decoding of Naadi palm leaf

Photograph .( to mr.oak)

>

> दिनांक: रविवार, 28 सितंबर, 2008,

6:40 PM

>

>

>

>

>

Respected sir mr.oak,

>

> the photograph of your nadi leaf is very much

>

> similar to that of nadi leaf i saw in the nadi astrology center

where

>

> i got my nadi prediction.i too saw my nadi leaf the script are very

>

> much cryptographic. in my nadi prediction they gave my lagna or

>

> ascendent position in my horoscope. did they give your horoscope

also

>

> in your nadi prediction especially that lagna in your horoscope. i

>

> want you too ask another question too. did all your prediction came

>

> true.for me especially bad things predicted always 100% precise.

>

>

>

> I ALSO WANT TO KNOW. ARE YOU SURE THAT NADI

>

> ASTROLOGERS GET NADI LEAF FROM SARASWATHY MAHAL LIBRARY. I CHECKED

>

> THOSE SARASWATHY MAHAL LIBRAY WEB SITE BUT THERE IS NOTHING CALLED

>

> NADI ASTROLOGY LEAF GIVEN TO NADI ASTROLOGERS AROUND THE TAMIL NADU.

>

>

>

> i personally feel that the nadi leaves are possions of nadi

>

> astrologers for centuaries but they faking it as if they are getting

>

> it from saraswathy mahal libray. once all the person get there nadi

>

> predcitions from respective nadi leaves the leaf should be thrown

out.

>

>

>

> but they keep it with them and give wrong nadi predictions for

>

> people who dont have nadi leaf for them.

>

>

>

> , SHASHIKANT OAK

>

> <shashikantoak@ ...> wrote:

>

> >

>

> > Well, I understand.

>

> > But keep trying!

>

> >  Wing Commander Shashikant Oak. Mo No: 0991901049, Pune. India.

>

> >

>

> > --- शनि, 27/9/08 को, Hariharan S <hariharan_sm@ ...> à

¤¨à¥‡

>

> लिखा:

>

> > दà¥à¤µà¤¾à¤°à¤¾: Hariharan S <hariharan_sm@ ...>

>

> > विषय: RE: Decoding of Naadi palm leaf

>

> Photograph .

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> > दिनांक: शनिवार, 27 सितंबर,

2008,

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> 10:45 PM

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> > Even Its very difficult for a Tamilian to Decipher it.

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> > Thank you,

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> > Sincerly,

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> > S. Hariharan

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> > Dear Friends,

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> >  Especially those are conversant with Tamil Script,

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> > Photograph of Naadi palm leaf of Shashikant

>

> >

>

> > Please click the link. Try and see what  can you  make out of .

>

> The word by word translation is appended below. With the help of the

>

> words noted, it is requested to decipher the script.  If  not all

>

> lines at least some lines, words, letters.

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>

> > Line

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> > 1 )    kanthan(KE SHASHI KANTH PERTHA) KUM

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> > 2)     yo(KAM MEL ENNA) annam

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> > 3)     kal (uyarayul pelape)rumal

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> > 4)     se(IGHI YADHA THA)dai

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> > 5)     seikau(KUKUS AWASTHAI PI)ni

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> > 6)     perthil( lLAVANAKKAL PO)kka

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> > 7)    saithidamel( KARI VANAKAMA A)wani

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> > 8)    e(THREE MIGHUM YO)ghan

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> > 9)    kan(THANUKKU THELIVU THO)NDU

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> > Note :- The capital letters in the bracket are clearly sen in he

>

> photograph. TH letters out side the bracket are for reference. Hence

>

> broken meaning could be derived. With the help of pronunciation

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> provided they are expected to understand meaning and exact location

of

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Dear Mr. Sanjay,

 

Prasanam is a Malayalam word derived from Tamil Word prasana which means appear

on the virtue and on one's wish. In prasana chapter, if you ask questions, you

will get replies on the spot. Also there is a chapter call perchanai or problem

chapter which deals only with problems and ways to solve them.

 

Nowadays in Kerala they don't go by leafs for prasanam but they go by vedic and

tantric systems to find out solutions.

 

Dhinakar

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> sanjay_sarmera

> Mon, 29 Sep 2008 12:27:41 +0530

> Re: Re: Decoding of Naadi palm leaf Photograph .(

FROM mr.oak)

>

>

> dear wing commdr. oak,

> what is prashna kandam? is it

person specific?

>

sanjay kishore

>

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Dear Dhinkarji,

 

 

 

Thanks or your reply. And sorting out addressing with the rank and not

by Mr or Shri.

1)Your post have cleared many issues. However I have somehow missed

you some points posted on the group.

Could you kidly forward them?

Regarding the decoding the photograph what would you make out of it? I

have high hopes from You an other learned Tamilians in this regard.

 

 

 

, " rdhinakar4477 "

<dhinakarrajaram wrote:

>

> Wing Commander's reply has cleared some of my doubts and also confirms

> my last posts on the issue. On this juncture, I request WC Oak to

> reply to my questions I posted on the forum few weeks back, which

will immensely help every one.

>

> Dhinakar

>

> , SHASHIKANT OAK

> <shashikantoak@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Respected sir mr.oak,

> >

> > the photograph of your nadi leaf is vepan>ry much

> >

> > similar to that of nadi leaf i saw in the nadi astrology

> center(Underlining is mine) where

> >

> > i got my nadi prediction.

> >

> > My comments:- What

> > you have encountered in the Naadi centre is the same which every one

> gets to

> > see but everyone is more worried and anxious to know his or her

> predictions.

> > Therefore they are not bothered to verify the details with deep

> > inquisitiveness. Some others of different mind set have no interest

> to verify

> > the details as they have already formed up an opinion about the

> whole affair.

> >

> >  one thing to i too saw my nadi

> > leaf the script are very

> >

> > much cryptographic. in my nadi prediction they gave my lagna or

> >

> > ascendent position in my horoscope. did they give your horoscope

> also

> >

> > in your nadi prediction especially that lagna in your horoscope.

> >

> >  

> >

> > My comments:- 

> > Yes. In my predictions my lagna was quoted. It was Dhanusu lagnam.

> Not only in

> > one leaf but in all the leaves taken out for me narrate the same

> lagna. Even in

> > the subsequent chapters the link of my main witnesses †" sakshi-

> indicated with

> > person’s name Shashikant with Kanni Raasi, Cittarei Nakshtram or

> meena and

> > Dhaanusu lagnam.

> >

> > In the latest case in

> > Pune few months back, I got leaf in Raavan Naadi with the same

> details. Moreover

> > the dots have now increased to five, some of which were latent in

> previous

> > years. However in many Naadies the lagna is not spelt out as matter

> of routine.

> >

> >  

> >

> >  i want you too ask another

> > question too. did all your prediction came

> >

> > true. for me especially bad things predicted always 100% precise.

> >

> >  

> >

> > My comments:- No.

> > Predictions may not come true 100%, because of various factors.

> >

> > Just like your

> > experience, many feel that the predictions which one does not wish

> to happen do

> > take place with certainty, but the good ones may find happening or

> late or

> > distorted or missing! In this is place, I cannot elaborate more on

> it. In the

> > conference in Pune last year many people had gathered only to find

> out my views

> > on these issues alone!

> >

> > In my Marathi book

> > Principal Adwayanand Galatage and I have tried to throw light on

> this sensitive

> > issue. In short, it could be said, if the Maharshies could perfectly

> spell out

> > the details of an individual before his visit, how come the

> predictions after

> > seeing or witnessing the prediction start going wrong? That means

> there is a

> > reason for it. It is incorrect to surmise that Maharishis did not

> know the

> > precise happenings of event? They were well aware of it.

> >

> > It could be vouched

> > by the fact that if some on sees leaf before marriage; the spouseâ

> €™s name is invariably

> > not mentioned. That does not mean that Maharshies were not aware of

> the concerned

> > names but when the same person gets chance to see leaf from same or

> from a different

> > Maharshies the name of spouse is accurately mentioned! Why because

> it is the

> > discretion of Maharishis to tell or not tell or to tell in correct

> or partially

> > correct or just to avoid by not providing his leaf. But from their

> point of

> > view, they are not divining only to please the persons. They have a

> larger orientation

> > of the picture of the happenings connected with the millions of

> factors to

> > unknown to the person. Maharshies have more onerous responsibility

> to honour

> > the Karma theory rather than just predict the events of

> inconsequential some

> > one. In this dilemma, if one feels so, Maharshies act in favour of

> the karma

> > theory which is universal guiding principle. Maharshies therefore,

> have not

> > option but to predict in such a manner that the events which are

> expected to

> > happen as per the previous Karma should happen precisely and

> smoothly.  In

> > this connection, a case of one of my fellow officer late Flying

> Office

> > Dhananjay Mote is a classic example.(For details see Minute of

> Conference put

> > up on our group)

> >

> >

> >

> > I ALSO WANT TO KNOW. ARE YOU SURE THAT NADI

> >

> > ASTROLOGERS GET NADI LEAF FROM SARASWATHY MAHAL LIBRARY. I CHECKED

> >

> > THOSE SARASWATHY MAHAL LIBRAY WEB SITE BUT THERE IS NOTHING CALLED

> >

> > NADI ASTROLOGY LEAF GIVEN TO NADI ASTROLOGERS AROUND THE TAMIL NADU.

> >

> > MY COMMENTS:- I WAS A

> > STATE GUEST OF PRESENT HEIR - OF MAHARAJA OF TANJAVOUR. HE DEPUTED

> DR. VIVEKANAND,

> > AN INDOLOGIST AND EXPERT IN TAMIL AND MODI SCRIPT IN MARATHI.

> >

> > BOTH OF THEM

> > CONFIRMED THAT THERE ARE NO PALM LEAVES OF NAADI LITERATURE

> AVAILABLE IN THE

> > PRESTEGIOUS SARASWATI MAHAL LIBRARY.HOWEVER, THE STATUES OF MAHARA

> SARFOUJI

> > RAJE BHOSALE AND HIS CHIEF COUNSELLER OR MINISTER COULD BE SEEN IN

> THE

> > VAIDEESHWARAN TEMPLE ,WHEN ONE PROCEEDS TOWARDS WATERTANK.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > i personally feel that the nadi leaves are possions of nadi

> >

> > astrologers for centuaries but they faking it as if they are getting

> >

> > it from saraswathy mahal libray. once all the person get there nadi

> >

> > predcitions from respective nadi leaves the leaf should be thrown

> out.

> >

> >

> >

> > but they keep it with them and give wrong nadi predictions for

> >

> > people who dont have nadi leaf for them.

> >

> > My comments: - Just

> > to glorify the importance of their profession many take the shelter

> of that

> > argument.

> >

> > Some comments have

> > been made regarding the Sun TV’s exposure that the leaves are

> being written

> > even now and not in ancient times, therefore Naadi perditions are

> fakes. One should

> > agree that argument straight way. But in practice, the person for

> whom the leaf

> > is found out, (which is supposed to have been written by some

> present or recent

> > writers) the client confirm the details mentioned in it. If the

> names, DoB and

> > other vital information are coming true, confirmed as 100% accurate.

> Even them,

> > it is a matter of intense investigation and not an act of mere

> denouncement or

> > deride.

> >

> > I earnestly request to

> > give a deep and serious look in that photograph. And try to decode

> the letters

> > indicating as ‘Shashikant’.

> > By chance the lines have been cut in between. Please rectify the

> same.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >  Wing Commander Shashikant Oak. Mo No: 0991901049, Pune. India.

> >

> > --- रवि, 28/9/08 को, jsebastian88 <jsebastian88@> नà

> ¥‡ लिखा:

> > दà¥à¤µà¤¾à¤°à¤¾: jsebastian88 <jsebastian88@>

> > विषय: Re: Decoding of Naadi palm leaf

> Photograph .( to mr.oak)

> >

> > दिनांक: रविवार, 28 सितंबर, 2008,

> 6:40 PM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Respected sir mr.oak,

> >

> > the photograph of your nadi leaf is very much

> >

> > similar to that of nadi leaf i saw in the nadi astrology center

> where

> >

> > i got my nadi prediction.i too saw my nadi leaf the script are very

> >

> > much cryptographic. in my nadi prediction they gave my lagna or

> >

> > ascendent position in my horoscope. did they give your horoscope

> also

> >

> > in your nadi prediction especially that lagna in your horoscope. i

> >

> > want you too ask another question too. did all your prediction came

> >

> > true.for me especially bad things predicted always 100% precise.

> >

> >

> >

> > I ALSO WANT TO KNOW. ARE YOU SURE THAT NADI

> >

> > ASTROLOGERS GET NADI LEAF FROM SARASWATHY MAHAL LIBRARY. I CHECKED

> >

> > THOSE SARASWATHY MAHAL LIBRAY WEB SITE BUT THERE IS NOTHING CALLED

> >

> > NADI ASTROLOGY LEAF GIVEN TO NADI ASTROLOGERS AROUND THE TAMIL NADU.

> >

> >

> >

> > i personally feel that the nadi leaves are possions of nadi

> >

> > astrologers for centuaries but they faking it as if they are getting

> >

> > it from saraswathy mahal libray. once all the person get there nadi

> >

> > predcitions from respective nadi leaves the leaf should be thrown

> out.

> >

> >

> >

> > but they keep it with them and give wrong nadi predictions for

> >

> > people who dont have nadi leaf for them.

> >

> >

> >

> > , SHASHIKANT OAK

> >

> > <shashikantoak@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Well, I understand.

> >

> > > But keep trying!

> >

> > >  Wing Commander Shashikant Oak. Mo No: 0991901049, Pune. India.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > --- शनि, 27/9/08 को, Hariharan S <hariharan_sm@ ...> à

> ¤¨à¥‡

> >

> > लिखा:

> >

> > > दà¥à¤µà¤¾à¤°à¤¾: Hariharan S <hariharan_sm@ ...>

> >

> > > विषय: RE: Decoding of Naadi palm leaf

> >

> > Photograph .

> >

> > >

> >

> > > दिनांक: शनिवार, 27 सितंबर,

> 2008,

> >

> > 10:45 PM

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> > > Photograph of Naadi palm leaf of Shashikant

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> > > Please click the link. Try and see what  can you  make out of .

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> > The word by word translation is appended below. With the help of the

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> > > 1 )    kanthan(KE SHASHI KANTH PERTHA) KUM

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> > > 2)     yo(KAM MEL ENNA) annam

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> > > 3)     kal (uyarayul pelape)rumal

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> > > 4)     se(IGHI YADHA THA)dai

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> > > 5)     seikau(KUKUS AWASTHAI PI)ni

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> > > 6)     perthil( lLAVANAKKAL PO)kka

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> > > 7)    saithidamel( KARI VANAKAMA A)wani

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> > > 8)    e(THREE MIGHUM YO)ghan

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> > > 9)    kan(THANUKKU THELIVU THO)NDU

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dear sri dhinakar,

Thanks for the information.As I contacted nadi center at gurgaon they informed that the questions asked will be answered from the copy already given to me.Do we have separate nadi leaves specific to a person for questions only?Please enlighten.I will be sharing my experience of gurgaon nadi center in coming months.

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Prachanai chapter and prasanam chapter nothing to do with your already seen leaf

as these are entirely different. If you need more information kindly contact WC

Oak, he may explain more efficiently.

 

Dhinakar

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> sanjay_sarmera

> Tue, 30 Sep 2008 10:50:32 +0530

> RE: Re: Decoding of Naadi palm leaf Photograph .(

FROM mr.oak)

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> dear sri dhinakar,

> Thanks for the information.As I contacted

nadi center at gurgaon they informed that the questions asked will be answered

from the copy already given to me.Do we have separate nadi leaves specific to a

person for questions only?Please enlighten.I will be sharing my experience of

gurgaon nadi center in coming months.

>

thanks

>

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30/09/2008

 

Dear Mr. Sanjay,

 

further to your query and my reply, today evening I met a naadi reader near my

house. He says he is reading Agastiya and kousika nadi. I asked him are you

reading prasanam chapter, he said yes. I asked him how much he charge, he told

me he is charging Rs.300/- and you can ask maximum 7 questions. And one has to

bring his old book or tape. When I questioned this, he told me the book or tape

is needed to identify the thumb and also to find out whether the answers are

already in the book.

 

Here a question will arise: 1. Suppose we ask a question for which already some

form of indication is given in the book we already have, and there is a

possibility that the reader may get a hint from the book and reply us.

 

2. He can also get lot of information from the book and may give reply from that

as off the prasanam chapter.

 

He told me to come in a morning after 10am but before 6pm any day.

 

Now I ask WC Oak to expatiate on the above points as well as your points. I went

to him (reader) to confirm your points, as what you informed was peculiar, as it

is my policy to go into the facts and satisfy myself.

 

Hope WC Oak will reply to the both question of you and mine.

 

I intend to check him on 2nd or 3rd. I also asked him, as I saw the pattis in

Congivaram, and will you be able to reply, he told yes. And also I asked him,

whether any other rishis would have written about me, for that also he replied

yes. The guy is in Elango Nagar, Virugambakkam, Chennai - 92.

 

So, it is now WC Oak has to clear our doubts as he alredy have seen prasanam

chapters.

 

Regards

 

Dhinakar Rajaram Iyer

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> Re: Re: Decoding of Naadi palm leaf Photograph .(

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> dear wing commdr. oak,

> what is prashna kandam? is it

person specific?

>

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dear sri dhinakar,

Thanks for the reply.My nadi reader also told me that I can ask 5 questions.He did not inform me about the cost of the same,of course he informed me that I have to bring my book.I will also request w.c. oak to clarify on above as I got to know about this chapter from his book only which I recently bought and read.

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please clarify about the remedies. have you ever avoided remedies which were suggested by the nadi ?is it obligatory to perform remedy. have u heard of cases where people have borrowed money to do remedies and then suffered for years by paying the intrest on burrowed money , as prediction did not come true ?

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Before Wing Commander Oak can reply, I request you to kindly see my previous

posts. My posts were intended to clarify many such questions for which I found

an answer as I too had same feeling. Further part of the post to be filled by WC

Oak.

 

Dhinakar

 

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> mr. oak

> please clarify about the remedies. have you ever avoided

remedies which were suggested by the nadi ?

> is it obligatory to perform remedy.

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Dear Friends,Reference to some clarifications sought by Shri Nitin.please clarify about the remedies.

> is it obligatory to perform remedy.My Comments: The very purpose of seeing the Naadi predictions is to perform the rituals suggested by the Maharishies as per the

order and with devotion.>have you ever avoided remedies which were suggested by the nadi ?.

>My comments :- No, but has performed as per the convenience of my duties. have u heard of cases where people have borrowed money to do

remedies and then suffered for years by paying the intrest on burrowed

money , as prediction did not come true ?My comments :- Yes on many occasions. people have gone with friends with his money and patronage. Many have got the railway fare paid by the Naadi centre. which was to be later reimbursed. Many a times Naadi centres have done Puja for some client as per instructions. in the leaf.That the remedies do not work out as an immediate result is general complaint. It is not a wand of Magic that it transform the scenario in some moments. But it is very slow process. Some times it is so slow that one forgets about the performance of Pujas done years back. Some times more than one remedies are required to perform . There is no fixed method for this. However it is the wish of the individual to perform with

full devotion or do not to perform Shanti Deeksha completely.If done with half devotion or belief the result may be lukewarm. Wing Commander Shashikant Oak. Mo No: 0991901049, Pune. India.--- बà¥à¤§, 1/10/08 को, Dhinakar Rajaram <dhinakarrajaram ने

लिखा:दà¥à¤µà¤¾à¤°à¤¾: Dhinakar Rajaram <dhinakarrajaramविषय: RE: Re: Decoding of Naadi palm leaf Photograph .( FROM mr.oak) दिनांक: बà¥à¤§à¤µà¤¾à¤°, 1 अकà¥à¤Ÿà¥‚बर, 2008, 11:34 PM

 

 

Before Wing Commander Oak can reply, I request you to kindly see my previous posts. My posts were intended to clarify many such questions for which I found an answer as I too had same feeling. Further part of the post to be filled by WC Oak.

 

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dear mr. oak

thank u for reply.

i feel the same too. and i would again like to appriciate ur graet work done in this field. i have said this to the members earlier too.

about the yantras which nadi readers prepare and give , they say that yantras have to be regularly shown incence(agarbatti). now if one does not show incence to them regularly and does not clean them regularly and they catch dust in few weeks. then ? have u asked some reader about this ?

another clarification about tne nadi anshas. It is said that the nadis are based on anshas( minute arc of angle)

But the readers never talk in terms of anshas. nadi readings always talk about gochar jupiter and saturn . the gochar concept is so gross and general . it is not minute. why dont the nadi readings talk in terms of anshas ?

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Request letter. for helping to decode the name 'Shashikanth' in the

leaf photograph.

, " WING COMMANDER (Retd)

SHASHIKANT OAK " <shashikantoak wrote:

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> Dear Dhinkarji,

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>

>

> Thanks or your reply. And sorting out addressing with the rank and not

> by Mr or Shri.

> 1)Your post have cleared many issues. However I have somehow missed

> you some points posted on the group.

> Could you kidly forward them?

> Regarding the decoding the photograph what would you make out of it? I

> have high hopes from You an other learned Tamilians in this regard.

>

>

>

> , " rdhinakar4477 "

> <dhinakarrajaram@> wrote:

> >

> > Wing Commander's reply has cleared some of my doubts and also

confirms

> > my last posts on the issue. On this juncture, I request WC Oak to

> > reply to my questions I posted on the forum few weeks back, which

> will immensely help every one.

> >

> > Dhinakar

> >

> > , SHASHIKANT OAK

> > <shashikantoak@> wrote:

> > >

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> > >

> > >

> > > Respected sir mr.oak,

> > >

> > > the photograph of your nadi leaf is vepan>ry much

> > >

> > > similar to that of nadi leaf i saw in the nadi astrology

> > center(Underlining is mine) where

> > >

> > > i got my nadi prediction.

> > >

> > > My comments:- What

> > > you have encountered in the Naadi centre is the same which every

one

> > gets to

> > > see but everyone is more worried and anxious to know his or her

> > predictions.

> > > Therefore they are not bothered to verify the details with deep

> > > inquisitiveness. Some others of different mind set have no interest

> > to verify

> > > the details as they have already formed up an opinion about the

> > whole affair.

> > >

> > >  one thing to i too saw my nadi

> > > leaf the script are very

> > >

> > > much cryptographic. in my nadi prediction they gave my lagna or

> > >

> > > ascendent position in my horoscope. did they give your horoscope

> > also

> > >

> > > in your nadi prediction especially that lagna in your horoscope.

> > >

> > >  

> > >

> > > My comments:- 

> > > Yes. In my predictions my lagna was quoted. It was Dhanusu lagnam.

> > Not only in

> > > one leaf but in all the leaves taken out for me narrate the same

> > lagna. Even in

> > > the subsequent chapters the link of my main witnesses †" sakshi-

> > indicated with

> > > person’s name Shashikant with Kanni Raasi, Cittarei Nakshtram or

> > meena and

> > > Dhaanusu lagnam.

> > >

> > > In the latest case in

> > > Pune few months back, I got leaf in Raavan Naadi with the same

> > details. Moreover

> > > the dots have now increased to five, some of which were latent in

> > previous

> > > years. However in many Naadies the lagna is not spelt out as matter

> > of routine.

> > >

> > >  

> > >

> > >  i want you too ask another

> > > question too. did all your prediction came

> > >

> > > true. for me especially bad things predicted always 100% precise.

> > >

> > >  

> > >

> > > My comments:- No.

> > > Predictions may not come true 100%, because of various factors.

> > >

> > > Just like your

> > > experience, many feel that the predictions which one does not wish

> > to happen do

> > > take place with certainty, but the good ones may find happening or

> > late or

> > > distorted or missing! In this is place, I cannot elaborate more on

> > it. In the

> > > conference in Pune last year many people had gathered only to find

> > out my views

> > > on these issues alone!

> > >

> > > In my Marathi book

> > > Principal Adwayanand Galatage and I have tried to throw light on

> > this sensitive

> > > issue. In short, it could be said, if the Maharshies could

perfectly

> > spell out

> > > the details of an individual before his visit, how come the

> > predictions after

> > > seeing or witnessing the prediction start going wrong? That means

> > there is a

> > > reason for it. It is incorrect to surmise that Maharishis did not

> > know the

> > > precise happenings of event? They were well aware of it.

> > >

> > > It could be vouched

> > > by the fact that if some on sees leaf before marriage; the spouseâ

> > €™s name is invariably

> > > not mentioned. That does not mean that Maharshies were not aware of

> > the concerned

> > > names but when the same person gets chance to see leaf from same or

> > from a different

> > > Maharshies the name of spouse is accurately mentioned! Why because

> > it is the

> > > discretion of Maharishis to tell or not tell or to tell in correct

> > or partially

> > > correct or just to avoid by not providing his leaf. But from their

> > point of

> > > view, they are not divining only to please the persons. They have a

> > larger orientation

> > > of the picture of the happenings connected with the millions of

> > factors to

> > > unknown to the person. Maharshies have more onerous responsibility

> > to honour

> > > the Karma theory rather than just predict the events of

> > inconsequential some

> > > one. In this dilemma, if one feels so, Maharshies act in favour of

> > the karma

> > > theory which is universal guiding principle. Maharshies therefore,

> > have not

> > > option but to predict in such a manner that the events which are

> > expected to

> > > happen as per the previous Karma should happen precisely and

> > smoothly.  In

> > > this connection, a case of one of my fellow officer late Flying

> > Office

> > > Dhananjay Mote is a classic example.(For details see Minute of

> > Conference put

> > > up on our group)

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I ALSO WANT TO KNOW. ARE YOU SURE THAT NADI

> > >

> > > ASTROLOGERS GET NADI LEAF FROM SARASWATHY MAHAL LIBRARY. I CHECKED

> > >

> > > THOSE SARASWATHY MAHAL LIBRAY WEB SITE BUT THERE IS NOTHING CALLED

> > >

> > > NADI ASTROLOGY LEAF GIVEN TO NADI ASTROLOGERS AROUND THE TAMIL

NADU.

> > >

> > > MY COMMENTS:- I WAS A

> > > STATE GUEST OF PRESENT HEIR - OF MAHARAJA OF TANJAVOUR. HE DEPUTED

> > DR. VIVEKANAND,

> > > AN INDOLOGIST AND EXPERT IN TAMIL AND MODI SCRIPT IN MARATHI.

> > >

> > > BOTH OF THEM

> > > CONFIRMED THAT THERE ARE NO PALM LEAVES OF NAADI LITERATURE

> > AVAILABLE IN THE

> > > PRESTEGIOUS SARASWATI MAHAL LIBRARY.HOWEVER, THE STATUES OF MAHARA

> > SARFOUJI

> > > RAJE BHOSALE AND HIS CHIEF COUNSELLER OR MINISTER COULD BE SEEN IN

> > THE

> > > VAIDEESHWARAN TEMPLE ,WHEN ONE PROCEEDS TOWARDS WATERTANK.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > i personally feel that the nadi leaves are possions of nadi

> > >

> > > astrologers for centuaries but they faking it as if they are getting

> > >

> > > it from saraswathy mahal libray. once all the person get there nadi

> > >

> > > predcitions from respective nadi leaves the leaf should be thrown

> > out.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > but they keep it with them and give wrong nadi predictions for

> > >

> > > people who dont have nadi leaf for them.

> > >

> > > My comments: - Just

> > > to glorify the importance of their profession many take the shelter

> > of that

> > > argument.

> > >

> > > Some comments have

> > > been made regarding the Sun TV’s exposure that the leaves are

> > being written

> > > even now and not in ancient times, therefore Naadi perditions are

> > fakes. One should

> > > agree that argument straight way. But in practice, the person for

> > whom the leaf

> > > is found out, (which is supposed to have been written by some

> > present or recent

> > > writers) the client confirm the details mentioned in it. If the

> > names, DoB and

> > > other vital information are coming true, confirmed as 100%

accurate.

> > Even them,

> > > it is a matter of intense investigation and not an act of mere

> > denouncement or

> > > deride.

> > >

> > > I earnestly request to

> > > give a deep and serious look in that photograph. And try to decode

> > the letters

> > > indicating as ‘Shashikant’.

> > > By chance the lines have been cut in between. Please rectify the

> > same.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >  Wing Commander Shashikant Oak. Mo No: 0991901049, Pune. India.

> > >

> > > --- रवि, 28/9/08 को, jsebastian88 <jsebastian88@> नà

> > ¥‡ लिखा:

> > > दà¥à¤µà¤¾à¤°à¤¾: jsebastian88 <jsebastian88@>

> > > विषय: Re: Decoding of Naadi palm leaf

> > Photograph .( to mr.oak)

> > >

> > > दिनांक: रविवार, 28 सितंबर,

2008,

> > 6:40 PM

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Respected sir mr.oak,

> > >

> > > the photograph of your nadi leaf is very much

> > >

> > > similar to that of nadi leaf i saw in the nadi astrology center

> > where

> > >

> > > i got my nadi prediction.i too saw my nadi leaf the script are very

> > >

> > > much cryptographic. in my nadi prediction they gave my lagna or

> > >

> > > ascendent position in my horoscope. did they give your horoscope

> > also

> > >

> > > in your nadi prediction especially that lagna in your horoscope. i

> > >

> > > want you too ask another question too. did all your prediction came

> > >

> > > true.for me especially bad things predicted always 100% precise.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I ALSO WANT TO KNOW. ARE YOU SURE THAT NADI

> > >

> > > ASTROLOGERS GET NADI LEAF FROM SARASWATHY MAHAL LIBRARY. I CHECKED

> > >

> > > THOSE SARASWATHY MAHAL LIBRAY WEB SITE BUT THERE IS NOTHING CALLED

> > >

> > > NADI ASTROLOGY LEAF GIVEN TO NADI ASTROLOGERS AROUND THE TAMIL NADU.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > i personally feel that the nadi leaves are possions of nadi

> > >

> > > astrologers for centuaries but they faking it as if they are getting

> > >

> > > it from saraswathy mahal libray. once all the person get there nadi

> > >

> > > predcitions from respective nadi leaves the leaf should be thrown

> > out.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > but they keep it with them and give wrong nadi predictions for

> > >

> > > people who dont have nadi leaf for them.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , SHASHIKANT OAK

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> > > <shashikantoak@ ...> wrote:

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> > > > Well, I understand.

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> > > > But keep trying!

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> > > >  Wing Commander Shashikant Oak. Mo No: 0991901049, Pune. India.

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> > > > --- शनि, 27/9/08 को, Hariharan S <hariharan_sm@ ...> à

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> > > लिखा:

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> > > > दà¥à¤µà¤¾à¤°à¤¾: Hariharan S <hariharan_sm@ ...>

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> > > > विषय: RE: Decoding of Naadi palm leaf

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> > > > दिनांक: शनिवार, 27 सितंबर,

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> > > > Dear Mr. Oak,

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> > > > Even Its very difficult for a Tamilian to Decipher it.

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> > > > Thank you,

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> > > > Sincerly,

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> > > > S. Hariharan

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> > > > shashikantoak@ .co. in

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> > > > Sat, 27 Sep 2008 16:03:35 +0000

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> > > > Decoding of Naadi palm leaf Photograph .

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> > > > Dear Friends,

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> > > >  Especially those are conversant with Tamil Script,

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> > > > Photograph of Naadi palm leaf of Shashikant

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> > > > Please click the link. Try and see what  can you  make out of .

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> > > The word by word translation is appended below. With the help of the

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> > > words noted, it is requested to decipher the script.  If  not all

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> > > lines at least some lines, words, letters.

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> > > > Line

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> > > > 1 )    kanthan(KE SHASHI KANTH PERTHA) KUM

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> > > > 2)     yo(KAM MEL ENNA) annam

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> > > > 3)     kal (uyarayul pelape)rumal

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> > > > 4)     se(IGHI YADHA THA)dai

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> > > > 5)     seikau(KUKUS AWASTHAI PI)ni

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> > > > 6)     perthil( lLAVANAKKAL PO)kka

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> > > > 7)    saithidamel( KARI VANAKAMA A)wani

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> > > > 8)    e(THREE MIGHUM YO)ghan

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> > > > 9)    kan(THANUKKU THELIVU THO)NDU

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> > > > Note :- The capital letters in the bracket are clearly sen in he

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> > > photograph. TH letters out side the bracket are for reference. Hence

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> > > broken meaning could be derived. With the help of pronunciation

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> > > provided they are expected to understand meaning and exact location

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> > > my name.

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> > > > This is an attempt to provide the evidence for those who presume

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> > > that there  is nothing written worth reading on the leaf  except

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> > > some scribblings just as deception.

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> > > > If the matter purported to be available on the palm leaf.  Some

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