Guest guest Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 if you people carefully look into the age of death(as told in nadi astrology) upto which the person lives without any threat to his life, the age of death is almost equal to age in which saturn comes to your 12th house(from moon) for third time ( what i meant is sade sati or 3rd time 7 1/2 sani in tamil 0r ezharrai naattu sani or also marana sani). for me age of death almost is exactly at the start of 3rd time 7 1/2 sani. for my fathers too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 Great! I did not realise this. You may recall that some time back I narated my experience. Indeed one of the things that was mentioned was that I would die at a particular age and on a particular star and month. It was pleasing to hear because it gave me a longevity that is highly satisfying. But frankly even at that time I only knew it was wishful prediction and on hearing that, though I was happy, I was also dampened by a realisation that I have wasted my time on nadi because this was one more in a series of 'fantastic' predictions that can really be true. In fact a few years down the road, a more scientific analysis of my health condition tells me the truth that my longivity is going to be roughly half of what has been predicted. Having said all of the above, it is indeed very nice to hear from sabastian on the way they come to the time of death. I realise now 100% the date was arrived based on my 3rd sade sathi. Well done sebastian! Thanks. , " jsebastian88 " <jsebastian88 wrote: > > if you people carefully look into the age of death(as told in nadi > astrology) upto which the person lives without any threat to his life, > the age of death is almost equal to age in which saturn comes to your > 12th house(from moon) for third time ( what i meant is sade sati or > 3rd time 7 1/2 sani in tamil 0r ezharrai naattu sani or also marana sani). > > for me age of death almost is exactly at the start of 3rd time 7 1/2 > sani. for my fathers too. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 In my case, my death age is not given as per 3rd saturn cycle. My 3rd saturn cycle starts at 78 but in nadi its given as 72. , " vr.2006 " <vr.2006 wrote: > > Great! I did not realise this. > > You may recall that some time back I narated my experience. Indeed one > of the things that was mentioned was that I would die at a particular > age and on a particular star and month. > > It was pleasing to hear because it gave me a longevity that is highly > satisfying. But frankly even at that time I only knew it was wishful > prediction and on hearing that, though I was happy, I was also > dampened by a realisation that I have wasted my time on nadi because > this was one more in a series of 'fantastic' predictions that can > really be true. In fact a few years down the road, a more scientific > analysis of my health condition tells me the truth that my longivity > is going to be roughly half of what has been predicted. > > Having said all of the above, it is indeed very nice to hear from > sabastian on the way they come to the time of death. I realise now > 100% the date was arrived based on my 3rd sade sathi. > > Well done sebastian! Thanks. > > > > > , " jsebastian88 " > <jsebastian88@> wrote: > > > > if you people carefully look into the age of death(as told in nadi > > astrology) upto which the person lives without any threat to his > life, > > the age of death is almost equal to age in which saturn comes to your > > 12th house(from moon) for third time ( what i meant is sade sati or > > 3rd time 7 1/2 sani in tamil 0r ezharrai naattu sani or also marana > sani). > > > > for me age of death almost is exactly at the start of 3rd time 7 1/2 > > sani. for my fathers too. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 Dear sebastian, I think you are a good reader of astrology books thats why you are explaining with sade sani and death what if every one should die only in the third round of sade sani means why child death, middle age death happens, one more thing sebastian Astrology is a type of calculation it wont reveal the exact happenings, and humble request dont compare astrology with NAADI both are differ. --- On Sun, 17/8/08, jsebastian88 <jsebastian88 wrote: jsebastian88 <jsebastian88 AGE OF DEATH IN NADI Date: Sunday, 17 August, 2008, 12:10 AM if you people carefully look into the age of death(as told in nadiastrology) upto which the person lives without any threat to his life,the age of death is almost equal to age in which saturn comes to your12th house(from moon) for third time ( what i meant is sade sati or3rd time 7 1/2 sani in tamil 0r ezharrai naattu sani or also marana sani).for me age of death almost is exactly at the start of 3rd time 7 1/2sani. for my fathers too. Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2008 Report Share Posted August 19, 2008 dear sarvan sekger, have you ever know about chandra kala nadi, deva keralam, bhrighu samhitha,sukar nadi, etc .there are various astrology books wriiten based on nadi astrology techniques. have you ever read research articles by rayudu. have you ever read gopalakrishna. K.N 's ground breaking predictive techniques of nadi astrology. first read it and then comment on whether nadi is different from vedic. i see there is no differece between nadi astrology and vedic astrology.both are same. yes you can predict exact happening through vedic astrology. but many of things hidden in vedic astrology is not known to the todays world. please read the book writen by gopalakrishnan on nadi techniqe. gopalakrishnan is the only person so far seen predicting exact detail thru vedic astrology. i did not say everybody dies only because of third round of sade sathi. there are many other factors too. exampla bad placement of rahu, bad yogas causing death in early age. if sani is stronge you will have long life. apart from this people usually die between this 7 1/2 years of saturn . have you read varahamirahs confession on longivity please read it first. regards, sebastian , Sarvan Shekhar <mr_saravana wrote: > > Dear sebastian, > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â I think you are a good reader of astrology books thats why you are explaining with sade sani and death what if every one should die only in the third round of sade sani means why child death, middle age death happens, one more thing sebastian Astrology is a type of calculation it wont reveal the exact happenings, and humble request dont compare astrology with NAADI both are differ. > > Â > Â > > --- On Sun, 17/8/08, jsebastian88 <jsebastian88 wrote: > > jsebastian88 <jsebastian88 > AGE OF DEATH IN NADI > > Sunday, 17 August, 2008, 12:10 AM if you people carefully look into the age of death(as told in nadi > astrology) upto which the person lives without any threat to his life, > the age of death is almost equal to age in which saturn comes to your > 12th house(from moon) for third time ( what i meant is sade sati or > 3rd time 7 1/2 sani in tamil 0r ezharrai naattu sani or also marana sani). > > for me age of death almost is exactly at the start of 3rd time 7 1/2 > sani. for my fathers too. > > > > > > > > > > Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Go to http://in.webmessenger./ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2008 Report Share Posted August 19, 2008 Hi Sebastian sir, I was seeing your reply about naadi and vedic astrology. Many of us think that since naadi astrology uses 9 planet and combination so it is vedic astrology. Naadi uses the 9 planets and combination only to suggest that these effect will be felt strongly or weak manner. Secondly it uses them to decide the time periods. Apart from that it uses them to reflect birth positions and transit positions. Apart from these there are many areas where naadi is different from vedic astrology. It does not use divisional charts , does not use naadi amsas, even does not give lagna or chandra degrees. Gopalkrishna is nakshatra based and naadi does not give description of nakshatra except birth nakshatra. I would want to know your views what is the similarity that you see with respect to vedic astrology. If you are actualy interested to go deeper I would also suggest that if you get time to get some siva nadi readings done, it will be more clear to you. It will also provide more clarity on free will and destiny. Also if you pose this question in the prashna naadi the answers might change your perspective towards the subject. Regards Shortcut , " jsebastian88 " <jsebastian88 wrote: > > dear sarvan sekger, > have you ever know about chandra kala nadi, deva > keralam, bhrighu samhitha,sukar nadi, etc .there are various astrology > books wriiten based on nadi astrology techniques. have you ever read > research articles by rayudu. have you ever read gopalakrishna. K.N 's > ground breaking predictive techniques of nadi astrology. first read it > and then comment on whether nadi is different from vedic. i see there > is no differece between nadi astrology and vedic astrology.both are > same. yes you can predict exact happening through vedic astrology. but > many of things hidden in vedic astrology is not known to the todays > world. please read the book writen by gopalakrishnan on nadi techniqe. > gopalakrishnan is the only person so far seen predicting exact detail > thru vedic astrology. > > i did not say everybody dies only because of third round of sade > sathi. there are many other factors too. exampla bad placement of > rahu, bad yogas causing death in early age. if sani is stronge you > will have long life. apart from this people usually die between this 7 > 1/2 years of saturn . have you read varahamirahs confession on > longivity please read it first. > > regards, sebastian > > , Sarvan Shekhar > <mr_saravana@> wrote: > > > > Dear sebastian, > > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â I think you are a good > reader of astrology books thats why you are explaining with sade sani > and death what if every one should die only in the third round of sade > sani means why child death, middle age death happens, one more thing > sebastian Astrology is a type of calculation it wont reveal the exact > happenings, and humble request dont compare astrology with NAADI both > are differ. > > > > Â > > Â > > > > --- On Sun, 17/8/08, jsebastian88 <jsebastian88@> wrote: > > > > jsebastian88 <jsebastian88@> > > AGE OF DEATH IN NADI > > > > Sunday, 17 August, 2008, 12:10 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you people carefully look into the age of death(as told in nadi > > astrology) upto which the person lives without any threat to his life, > > the age of death is almost equal to age in which saturn comes to your > > 12th house(from moon) for third time ( what i meant is sade sati or > > 3rd time 7 1/2 sani in tamil 0r ezharrai naattu sani or also marana > sani). > > > > for me age of death almost is exactly at the start of 3rd time 7 1/2 > > sani. for my fathers too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Go > to http://in.webmessenger./ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 dear shortcut (ha ha ha), first of all dont call me sir, cause i am not 40 or 50 year old. how do you know nadi doesnt use divisional chart, naadi amsas, nakshaktra things etc. in this cases you need to think logically. before talking about logic you need to know one thing. nadi is something mysterious not yet decoded properly.yet lot of research has to be done on this. people who wrote this nadi leaves have not revealed us how they did that. only possible way is vedic astrology. thats why both gopalakrishnan and rayudu say lot of research has to be done. they too tell nadi astrology is none other than vedic astrology. both have experienced nadi astrology. nadi astrology is the only inspiration for them to study vedic astrology. rayudu is a student of b.v.raman another great astrologer. i even seen rayudu explaining about nadi amsas in nadi astrology in his website.quite interesting. vedic astrology is mother of all other astrology including nadi astrology. since they have not used divi chart,nadi amsas etc in that nadi leaf it does not mean that it is not vedic astrology. ok can you show me the materialistic evidence that vedic astrology is not nadi astrology. i too cannot prove vedic astrology is nadi astrology. only thing we have to do here is to find what are the possibilities. i am still skeptical about great sages actually wrote this nadi astrology prediction. i strongly believe this is handy work of ordinary ancient vedic astrologers. because space limitations they may have not written those div charts in those nadi leaf. since there are many leaves to be written for many people, they have written only those predictions in that nadi leaves. who said you nadi astrology actually not predict position of lagna in our chart. for me they predicted it perfect. (awesomely spot on ) in nadi leaves usually it(lagna) is denoted as " ooyir " or " aavi " (in tamil). if you see in agastya nadi exact positiomn of lagna is accurately given. i got my reading in agastya nadi in kanchipuram by d.balasubramanium. i dont know about siva nadi. why siva nadi dont give lagna that i dont know. but agastya nadi did it accurately. this is too long remaining later. last but not least if you have time goto agastya nadi in kanchipuram. nothing in the world has amazed me as nadi astrology. , " shortcut " <shortcutfromdos wrote: > > Hi Sebastian sir, > > I was seeing your reply about naadi and vedic astrology. Many of us > think that since naadi astrology uses 9 planet and combination so it > is vedic astrology. Naadi uses the 9 planets and combination only to > suggest that these effect will be felt strongly or weak manner. > Secondly it uses them to decide the time periods. Apart from that it > uses them to reflect birth positions and transit positions. Apart from > these there are many areas where naadi is different from vedic > astrology. It does not use divisional charts , does not use naadi > amsas, even does not give lagna or chandra degrees. Gopalkrishna is > nakshatra based and naadi does not give description of nakshatra > except birth nakshatra. I would want to know your views what is the > similarity that you see with respect to vedic astrology. > > If you are actualy interested to go deeper I would also suggest that > if you get time to get some siva nadi readings done, it will be more > clear to you. It will also provide more clarity on free will and > destiny. Also if you pose this question in the prashna naadi the > answers might change your perspective towards the subject. > > Regards > Shortcut > > > > > > , " jsebastian88 " > <jsebastian88@> wrote: > > > > dear sarvan sekger, > > have you ever know about chandra kala nadi, deva > > keralam, bhrighu samhitha,sukar nadi, etc .there are various astrology > > books wriiten based on nadi astrology techniques. have you ever read > > research articles by rayudu. have you ever read gopalakrishna. K.N 's > > ground breaking predictive techniques of nadi astrology. first read it > > and then comment on whether nadi is different from vedic. i see there > > is no differece between nadi astrology and vedic astrology.both are > > same. yes you can predict exact happening through vedic astrology. but > > many of things hidden in vedic astrology is not known to the todays > > world. please read the book writen by gopalakrishnan on nadi techniqe. > > gopalakrishnan is the only person so far seen predicting exact detail > > thru vedic astrology. > > > > i did not say everybody dies only because of third round of sade > > sathi. there are many other factors too. exampla bad placement of > > rahu, bad yogas causing death in early age. if sani is stronge you > > will have long life. apart from this people usually die between this 7 > > 1/2 years of saturn . have you read varahamirahs confession on > > longivity please read it first. > > > > regards, sebastian > > > > , Sarvan Shekhar > > <mr_saravana@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear sebastian, > > > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â I think you are a good > > reader of astrology books thats why you are explaining with sade sani > > and death what if every one should die only in the third round of sade > > sani means why child death, middle age death happens, one more thing > > sebastian Astrology is a type of calculation it wont reveal the exact > > happenings, and humble request dont compare astrology with NAADI both > > are differ. > > > > > > Â > > > Â > > > > > > --- On Sun, 17/8/08, jsebastian88 <jsebastian88@> wrote: > > > > > > jsebastian88 <jsebastian88@> > > > AGE OF DEATH IN NADI > > > > > > Sunday, 17 August, 2008, 12:10 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you people carefully look into the age of death(as told in nadi > > > astrology) upto which the person lives without any threat to his life, > > > the age of death is almost equal to age in which saturn comes to your > > > 12th house(from moon) for third time ( what i meant is sade sati or > > > 3rd time 7 1/2 sani in tamil 0r ezharrai naattu sani or also marana > > sani). > > > > > > for me age of death almost is exactly at the start of 3rd time 7 1/2 > > > sani. for my fathers too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did you know? 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Guest guest Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 Please see the attachments. Dear sebastian, I here attached kalyanavarma,saravali,lalkitab books first read this and you should predict one month happenings in india, see I have read all the books and the reputed PULIPPANI jothidam by Pulippani this book is explained by songs I red all and I would say NAADI is the best(if you get your NAADI readings exact) so dont compare SAGES with normal astrologers.... --- On Wed, 20/8/08, shortcut <shortcutfromdos wrote: shortcut <shortcutfromdos Re: AGE OF DEATH IN NADI Date: Wednesday, 20 August, 2008, 1:59 AM Hi Sebastian sir,I was seeing your reply about naadi and vedic astrology. Many of usthink that since naadi astrology uses 9 planet and combination so itis vedic astrology. Naadi uses the 9 planets and combination only tosuggest that these effect will be felt strongly or weak manner.Secondly it uses them to decide the time periods. Apart from that ituses them to reflect birth positions and transit positions. Apart fromthese there are many areas where naadi is different from Vedic Astrology. It does not use divisional charts , does not use naadiamsas, even does not give lagna or chandra degrees. Gopalkrishna isnakshatra based and naadi does not give description of nakshatraexcept birth nakshatra. I would want to know your views what is thesimilarity that you see with respect to vedic astrology. If you are actualy interested to go deeper I would also suggest thatif you get time to get some siva nadi readings done, it will be moreclear to you. It will also provide more clarity on free will anddestiny. Also if you pose this question in the prashna naadi theanswers might change your perspective towards the subject. RegardsShortcut, "jsebastian88"<jsebastian88@ ...> wrote:>> dear sarvan sekger,> have you ever know about chandra kala nadi, deva> keralam, bhrighu samhitha,sukar nadi, etc .there are various astrology> books wriiten based on nadi astrology techniques. have you ever read> research articles by rayudu. have you ever read gopalakrishna. K.N 's> ground breaking predictive techniques of nadi astrology. first read it> and then comment on whether nadi is different from vedic. i see there> is no differece between nadi astrology and vedic astrology.both are> same. yes you can predict exact happening through vedic astrology. but> many of things hidden in vedic astrology is not known to the todays> world. please read the book writen by gopalakrishnan on nadi techniqe.> gopalakrishnan is the only person so far seen predicting exact detail> thru vedic astrology.> > i did not say everybody dies only because of third round of sade> sathi. there are many other factors too. exampla bad placement of> rahu, bad yogas causing death in early age. if sani is stronge you> will have long life. apart from this people usually die between this 7> 1/2 years of saturn . have you read varahamirahs confession on> longivity please read it first.> > regards, sebastian > > @ . com, Sarvan Shekhar> <mr_saravana@ > wrote:> >> > Dear sebastian,> > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â I think you are a good> reader of astrology books thats why you are explaining with sade sani> and death what if every one should die only in the third round of sade> sani means why child death, middle age death happens, one more thing> sebastian Astrology is a type of calculation it wont reveal the exact> happenings, and humble request dont compare astrology with NAADI both> are differ.> > > > Â > > Â > > > > --- On Sun, 17/8/08, jsebastian88 <jsebastian88@ > wrote:> > > > jsebastian88 <jsebastian88@ >> > AGE OF DEATH IN NADI> > > > Sunday, 17 August, 2008, 12:10 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you people carefully look into the age of death(as told in nadi> > astrology) upto which the person lives without any threat to his life,> > the age of death is almost equal to age in which saturn comes to your> > 12th house(from moon) for third time ( what i meant is sade sati or> > 3rd time 7 1/2 sani in tamil 0r ezharrai naattu sani or also marana> sani).> > > > for me age of death almost is exactly at the start of 3rd time 7 1/2> > sani. for my fathers too.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Go> to http://in.webmessen ger.. com/> >> Download prohibited? No problem. CHAT from any browser, without download. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 Dear allNowadays i see lot of posts written about a particular astrologer D.Balasubramaniam.I dont know whether he gives genuine reading or not and the posts coming one after another looks like an advertising campaign for him by others purposely. And abt the last post,no naadi gives lagna position.the naadi readers when they read naadis one by one during question section find out yours(usually they ask in threes-are u vrischik or dhanus or makara) and by this way they rule out others and find out ur lagna. And when they claim they found ur naadi,it is not a big job to sing a line saying you are so and so lagna.afterall no lines are in the naadi really.All they do is find out the DOB by trial and error method,go to room ,cast a chart and ready a song verse based on planetary position and finally tell u general results and planetary transit results based on Jupiter and Guru. On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 9:33 PM, Sarvan Shekhar <mr_saravana wrote: Please see the attachments. Dear sebastian, I here attached kalyanavarma,saravali,lalkitab books first read this and you should predict one month happenings in india, see I have read all the books and the reputed PULIPPANI jothidam by Pulippani this book is explained by songs I red all and I would say NAADI is the best(if you get your NAADI readings exact) so dont compare SAGES with normal astrologers.... --- On Wed, 20/8/08, shortcut <shortcutfromdos wrote: shortcut <shortcutfromdos Re: AGE OF DEATH IN NADI Date: Wednesday, 20 August, 2008, 1:59 AM Hi Sebastian sir,I was seeing your reply about naadi and vedic astrology. Many of usthink that since naadi astrology uses 9 planet and combination so itis vedic astrology. Naadi uses the 9 planets and combination only to suggest that these effect will be felt strongly or weak manner.Secondly it uses them to decide the time periods. Apart from that ituses them to reflect birth positions and transit positions. Apart fromthese there are many areas where naadi is different from vedic astrology. It does not use divisional charts , does not use naadiamsas, even does not give lagna or chandra degrees. Gopalkrishna isnakshatra based and naadi does not give description of nakshatraexcept birth nakshatra. I would want to know your views what is the similarity that you see with respect to vedic astrology. If you are actualy interested to go deeper I would also suggest thatif you get time to get some siva nadi readings done, it will be moreclear to you. It will also provide more clarity on free will anddestiny. Also if you pose this question in the prashna naadi theanswers might change your perspective towards the subject. RegardsShortcut, " jsebastian88 " <jsebastian88@ ...> wrote: >> dear sarvan sekger,> have you ever know about chandra kala nadi, deva> keralam, bhrighu samhitha,sukar nadi, etc .there are various astrology> books wriiten based on nadi astrology techniques. have you ever read > research articles by rayudu. have you ever read gopalakrishna. K.N 's> ground breaking predictive techniques of nadi astrology. first read it> and then comment on whether nadi is different from vedic. i see there > is no differece between nadi astrology and vedic astrology.both are> same. yes you can predict exact happening through vedic astrology. but> many of things hidden in vedic astrology is not known to the todays> world. please read the book writen by gopalakrishnan on nadi techniqe. > gopalakrishnan is the only person so far seen predicting exact detail> thru vedic astrology.> > i did not say everybody dies only because of third round of sade> sathi. there are many other factors too. exampla bad placement of > rahu, bad yogas causing death in early age. if sani is stronge you> will have long life. apart from this people usually die between this 7> 1/2 years of saturn . have you read varahamirahs confession on > longivity please read it first.> > regards, sebastian > > @ . com, Sarvan Shekhar> <mr_saravana@ > wrote:> >> > Dear sebastian,> > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â I think you are a good > reader of astrology books thats why you are explaining with sade sani> and death what if every one should die only in the third round of sade> sani means why child death, middle age death happens, one more thing > sebastian Astrology is a type of calculation it wont reveal the exact> happenings, and humble request dont compare astrology with NAADI both> are differ.> > > > Â > > Â > > > > --- On Sun, 17/8/08, jsebastian88 <jsebastian88@ > wrote:> > > > jsebastian88 <jsebastian88@ >> > AGE OF DEATH IN NADI> > > > Sunday, 17 August, 2008, 12:10 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you people carefully look into the age of death(as told in nadi> > astrology) upto which the person lives without any threat to his life, > > the age of death is almost equal to age in which saturn comes to your> > 12th house(from moon) for third time ( what i meant is sade sati or> > 3rd time 7 1/2 sani in tamil 0r ezharrai naattu sani or also marana > sani).> > > > for me age of death almost is exactly at the start of 3rd time 7 1/2> > sani. for my fathers too.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did you know? 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Guest guest Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 Dear Dr. Gurusaravanan, I don't go with your words. There may be some cases like that. When I saw mine, the horoscope was actually casted in front of my eyes and I was asked to verify the positions. And, no one advertising the balasubramaniam or his centre, just a guidance. I never gave any credentials that this guy is good or bad. What I gave was just a piece of information as he has a good clientèle and has some reputation. It is upto the questioner to decide whom to approach or not to approach. I think you can't differentiate between a suggestion and a advertisement. As if a naadi centre or anything which is (if) good, it will be visited by many without any advertisement as for these guys the main advertisement is word of mouth. In chennai and in many areas even in kanchipuram I have seen many so called naadi readers advertise with signboards and direction boards, even I saw some in Orkut space. If any naadi centre uses advertisement in any form except for name board in front of the centre, the centre can be said as not genuine, this is from my research. Kindly read between lines (on certain cases) and post your views. Dhinakar , " Dr. Gurusaravanan " <kuttinguru wrote: > > Dear all > > Nowadays i see lot of posts written about a particular astrologer > D.Balasubramaniam.I dont know whether he gives genuine reading or not and > the posts coming one after another looks like an advertising campaign for > him by others purposely. > > And abt the last post,no naadi gives lagna position.the naadi readers when > they read naadis one by one during question section find out yours(usually > they ask in threes-are u vrischik or dhanus or makara) and by this way they > rule out others and find out ur lagna. > > And when they claim they found ur naadi,it is not a big job to sing a line > saying you are so and so lagna.afterall no lines are in the naadi really. > > All they do is find out the DOB by trial and error method,go to room ,cast a > chart and ready a song verse based on planetary position and finally tell u > general results and planetary transit results based on Jupiter and Guru. > > > > On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 9:33 PM, Sarvan Shekhar <mr_saravanawrote: > > > Please see the attachments. > > > > Dear sebastian, > > I here attached kalyanavarma,saravali,lalkitab books first read this and > > you should predict one month happenings in india, see I have read all the > > books and the reputed PULIPPANI jothidam by Pulippani this book is explained > > by songs I red all and I would say NAADI is the best(if you get your NAADI > > readings exact) so dont compare SAGES with normal astrologers.... > > > > > > --- On *Wed, 20/8/08, shortcut <shortcutfromdos* wrote: > > > > shortcut <shortcutfromdos > > Re: AGE OF DEATH IN NADI > > > > Wednesday, 20 August, 2008, 1:59 AM > > > > Hi Sebastian sir, > > > > I was seeing your reply about naadi and vedic astrology. Many of us > > think that since naadi astrology uses 9 planet and combination so it > > is vedic astrology. Naadi uses the 9 planets and combination only to > > suggest that these effect will be felt strongly or weak manner. > > Secondly it uses them to decide the time periods. Apart from that it > > uses them to reflect birth positions and transit positions. Apart from > > these there are many areas where naadi is different from vedic > > astrology. It does not use divisional charts , does not use naadi > > amsas, even does not give lagna or chandra degrees. Gopalkrishna is > > nakshatra based and naadi does not give description of nakshatra > > except birth nakshatra. I would want to know your views what is the > > similarity that you see with respect to vedic astrology. > > > > If you are actualy interested to go deeper I would also suggest that > > if you get time to get some siva nadi readings done, it will be more > > clear to you. It will also provide more clarity on free will and > > destiny. Also if you pose this question in the prashna naadi the > > answers might change your perspective towards the subject. > > > > Regards > > Shortcut > > > > <%40>, > > " jsebastian88 " > > <jsebastian88@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > dear sarvan sekger, > > > have you ever know about chandra kala nadi, deva > > > keralam, bhrighu samhitha,sukar nadi, etc .there are various astrology > > > books wriiten based on nadi astrology techniques. have you ever read > > > research articles by rayudu. have you ever read gopalakrishna. K.N 's > > > ground breaking predictive techniques of nadi astrology. first read it > > > and then comment on whether nadi is different from vedic. i see there > > > is no differece between nadi astrology and vedic astrology.both are > > > same. yes you can predict exact happening through vedic astrology. but > > > many of things hidden in vedic astrology is not known to the todays > > > world. please read the book writen by gopalakrishnan on nadi techniqe. > > > gopalakrishnan is the only person so far seen predicting exact detail > > > thru vedic astrology. > > > > > > i did not say everybody dies only because of third round of sade > > > sathi. there are many other factors too. exampla bad placement of > > > rahu, bad yogas causing death in early age. if sani is stronge you > > > will have long life. apart from this people usually die between this 7 > > > 1/2 years of saturn . have you read varahamirahs confession on > > > longivity please read it first. > > > > > > regards, sebastian > > > > > > @ . com<%40>, > > Sarvan Shekhar > > > <mr_saravana@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear sebastian, > > > > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â I think you are a good > > > reader of astrology books thats why you are explaining with sade sani > > > and death what if every one should die only in the third round of sade > > > sani means why child death, middle age death happens, one more thing > > > sebastian Astrology is a type of calculation it wont reveal the exact > > > happenings, and humble request dont compare astrology with NAADI both > > > are differ. > > > > > > > > Â > > > > Â > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 17/8/08, jsebastian88 <jsebastian88@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > jsebastian88 <jsebastian88@ > > > > > AGE OF DEATH IN NADI > > > > @ . com<%40> > > > > Sunday, 17 August, 2008, 12:10 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you people carefully look into the age of death(as told in nadi > > > > astrology) upto which the person lives without any threat to his life, > > > > the age of death is almost equal to age in which saturn comes to your > > > > 12th house(from moon) for third time ( what i meant is sade sati or > > > > 3rd time 7 1/2 sani in tamil 0r ezharrai naattu sani or also marana > > > sani). > > > > > > > > for me age of death almost is exactly at the start of 3rd time 7 1/2 > > > > sani. for my fathers too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did you know? 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Guest guest Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 Dear Gurusaravanan, I think you had one bad reading occation but me and other senior people are having lots of bad reading occation by that we didn't come to a conclusion that NAADI is wrong only SOME NAADI readers are wrong so please try some good NAADI reader then you see the Miracle. If you want to know better in our forum Mr.SHASHIKANT OAK sir posting lot read that and my humble request please dear all friends read his Naadi Predictions A Mind Boggling Miracle book it reveal his research about naadi by our Mr.SHASHIKANT OAK. here is the link just apply for this book you will get it by courier and one more thing I am not selling or advertising if you want read else leave it. http://books.rediff.com/bookshop/bkproductdisplay.jsp?Naadi-Predictions-A-Mind-Boggling-Miracle- & prrfnbr=80935143 & pvrfnbr=80953263 & multiple=false & frompg= & isbngroup=8171829481 Regards Sarvan shekhar --- On Thu, 21/8/08, rdhinakar4477 <dhinakarrajaram wrote: rdhinakar4477 <dhinakarrajaram Re: AGE OF DEATH IN NADI Date: Thursday, 21 August, 2008, 12:34 AM Dear Dr. Gurusaravanan,I don't go with your words. There may be some cases like that. When Isaw mine, the horoscope was actually casted in front of my eyes and Iwas asked to verify the positions. And, no one advertising thebalasubramaniam or his centre, just a guidance. I never gave anycredentials that this guy is good or bad. What I gave was just a pieceof information as he has a good clientèle and has some reputation. Itis upto the questioner to decide whom to approach or not to approach.I think you can't differentiate between a suggestion and aadvertisement. As if a naadi centre or anything which is (if) good,it will be visited by many without any advertisement as for these guysthe main advertisement is word of mouth. In chennai and in many areaseven in kanchipuram I have seen many so called naadi readers advertisewith signboards and direction boards, even I saw some in Orkut space.If any naadi centre uses advertisement in any form except for nameboard in front of the centre, the centre can be said as not genuine,this is from my research. Kindly read between lines (on certain cases) and post your views. Dhinakar , "Dr. Gurusaravanan"<kuttinguru@ ...> wrote:>> Dear all> > Nowadays i see lot of posts written about a particular astrologer> D.Balasubramaniam. I dont know whether he gives genuine reading ornot and> the posts coming one after another looks like an advertisingcampaign for> him by others purposely.> > And abt the last post,no naadi gives lagna position.the naadireaders when> they read naadis one by one during question section find outyours(usually> they ask in threes-are u vrischik or dhanus or makara) and by thisway they> rule out others and find out ur lagna.> > And when they claim they found ur naadi,it is not a big job to singa line> saying you are so and so lagna.afterall no lines are in the naadireally.> > All they do is find out the DOB by trial and error method,go to room,cast a> chart and ready a song verse based on planetary position andfinally tell u> general results and planetary transit results based on Jupiter and Guru.> > > > On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 9:33 PM, Sarvan Shekhar <mr_saravana@ ...>wrote:> > > Please see the attachments.> >> > Dear sebastian,> > I here attached kalyanavarma, saravali, lalkitab books first readthis and> > you should predict one month happenings in india, see I have readall the> > books and the reputed PULIPPANI jothidam by Pulippani this book isexplained> > by songs I red all and I would say NAADI is the best(if you getyour NAADI> > readings exact) so dont compare SAGES with normal astrologers. ...> >> >> > --- On *Wed, 20/8/08, shortcut <shortcutfromdos@ ...>* wrote:> >> > shortcut <shortcutfromdos@ ...>> > Re: AGE OF DEATH IN NADI> > > > Wednesday, 20 August, 2008, 1:59 AM> >> > Hi Sebastian sir,> >> > I was seeing your reply about naadi and vedic astrology. Many of us> > think that since naadi astrology uses 9 planet and combination so it> > is vedic astrology. Naadi uses the 9 planets and combination only to> > suggest that these effect will be felt strongly or weak manner.> > Secondly it uses them to decide the time periods. Apart from that it> > uses them to reflect birth positions and transit positions. Apart from> > these there are many areas where naadi is different from vedic> > astrology. It does not use divisional charts , does not use naadi> > amsas, even does not give lagna or chandra degrees. Gopalkrishna is> > nakshatra based and naadi does not give description of nakshatra> > except birth nakshatra. I would want to know your views what is the> > similarity that you see with respect to vedic astrology.> >> > If you are actualy interested to go deeper I would also suggest that> > if you get time to get some siva nadi readings done, it will be more> > clear to you. It will also provide more clarity on free will and> > destiny. Also if you pose this question in the prashna naadi the> > answers might change your perspective towards the subject.> >> > Regards> > Shortcut> >> > <% 40. com>,> > "jsebastian88"> > <jsebastian88@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > dear sarvan sekger,> > > have you ever know about chandra kala nadi, deva> > > keralam, bhrighu samhitha,sukar nadi, etc .there are variousastrology> > > books wriiten based on nadi astrology techniques. have you ever read> > > research articles by rayudu. have you ever read gopalakrishna.K.N 's> > > ground breaking predictive techniques of nadi astrology. firstread it> > > and then comment on whether nadi is different from vedic. i seethere> > > is no differece between nadi astrology and vedic astrology.both are> > > same. yes you can predict exact happening through Vedic Astrology. but> > > many of things hidden in vedic astrology is not known to the todays> > > world. please read the book writen by gopalakrishnan on naditechniqe.> > > gopalakrishnan is the only person so far seen predicting exactdetail> > > thru vedic astrology.> > >> > > i did not say everybody dies only because of third round of sade> > > sathi. there are many other factors too. exampla bad placement of> > > rahu, bad yogas causing death in early age. if sani is stronge you> > > will have long life. apart from this people usually die betweenthis 7> > > 1/2 years of saturn . have you read varahamirahs confession on> > > longivity please read it first.> > >> > > regards, sebastian> > >> > > @ <% 40. com>,> > Sarvan Shekhar> > > <mr_saravana@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear sebastian,> > > > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â I think you are a good> > > reader of astrology books thats why you are explaining with sadesani> > > and death what if every one should die only in the third roundof sade> > > sani means why child death, middle age death happens, one more thing> > > sebastian Astrology is a type of calculation it wont reveal theexact> > > happenings, and humble request dont compare astrology with NAADIboth> > > are differ.> > > >> > > > Â> > > > Â> > > >> > > > --- On Sun, 17/8/08, jsebastian88 <jsebastian88@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > jsebastian88 <jsebastian88@ >> > > > AGE OF DEATH IN NADI> > > > @ <% 40. com>> > > > Sunday, 17 August, 2008, 12:10 AM> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > if you people carefully look into the age of death(as told in nadi> > > > astrology) upto which the person lives without any threat tohis life,> > > > the age of death is almost equal to age in which saturn comesto your> > > > 12th house(from moon) for third time ( what i meant is sadesati or> > > > 3rd time 7 1/2 sani in tamil 0r ezharrai naattu sani or alsomarana> > > sani).> > > >> > > > for me age of death almost is exactly at the start of 3rd time7 1/2> > > > sani. for my fathers too.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Did you know? 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Guest guest Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 Then the guy you saw might be really good in astrology that he cast your chart before you. i do have a thought that nadi astrology is form of astrology or it uses astrology. From my experience the fake nadi readers uses astrology only. Because the guy i saw was mainly focussing to know my birth lagna,year and month and all. Then he was saying, your 7th god is in 6th postion which is not good. thats why your marriage is getting delayed.. blah blah.. i can't comment on Nadi as whole but fake nadi uses astrology. This is my opinion. , " rdhinakar4477 " <dhinakarrajaram wrote: > > Dear Dr. Gurusaravanan, > > I don't go with your words. There may be some cases like that. When I > saw mine, the horoscope was actually casted in front of my eyes and I > was asked to verify the positions. And, no one advertising the > balasubramaniam or his centre, just a guidance. I never gave any > credentials that this guy is good or bad. What I gave was just a piece > of information as he has a good clientèle and has some reputation. It > is upto the questioner to decide whom to approach or not to approach. > I think you can't differentiate between a suggestion and a > advertisement. As if a naadi centre or anything which is (if) good, > it will be visited by many without any advertisement as for these guys > the main advertisement is word of mouth. In chennai and in many areas > even in kanchipuram I have seen many so called naadi readers advertise > with signboards and direction boards, even I saw some in Orkut space. > If any naadi centre uses advertisement in any form except for name > board in front of the centre, the centre can be said as not genuine, > this is from my research. > > Kindly read between lines (on certain cases) and post your views. > > Dhinakar > > , " Dr. Gurusaravanan " > <kuttinguru@> wrote: > > > > Dear all > > > > Nowadays i see lot of posts written about a particular astrologer > > D.Balasubramaniam.I dont know whether he gives genuine reading or > not and > > the posts coming one after another looks like an advertising > campaign for > > him by others purposely. > > > > And abt the last post,no naadi gives lagna position.the naadi > readers when > > they read naadis one by one during question section find out > yours(usually > > they ask in threes-are u vrischik or dhanus or makara) and by this > way they > > rule out others and find out ur lagna. > > > > And when they claim they found ur naadi,it is not a big job to sing > a line > > saying you are so and so lagna.afterall no lines are in the naadi > really. > > > > All they do is find out the DOB by trial and error method,go to room > ,cast a > > chart and ready a song verse based on planetary position and > finally tell u > > general results and planetary transit results based on Jupiter and Guru. > > > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 9:33 PM, Sarvan Shekhar <mr_saravana@>wrote: > > > > > Please see the attachments. > > > > > > Dear sebastian, > > > I here attached kalyanavarma,saravali,lalkitab books first read > this and > > > you should predict one month happenings in india, see I have read > all the > > > books and the reputed PULIPPANI jothidam by Pulippani this book is > explained > > > by songs I red all and I would say NAADI is the best(if you get > your NAADI > > > readings exact) so dont compare SAGES with normal astrologers.... > > > > > > > > > --- On *Wed, 20/8/08, shortcut <shortcutfromdos@>* wrote: > > > > > > shortcut <shortcutfromdos@> > > > Re: AGE OF DEATH IN NADI > > > > > > Wednesday, 20 August, 2008, 1:59 AM > > > > > > Hi Sebastian sir, > > > > > > I was seeing your reply about naadi and vedic astrology. Many of us > > > think that since naadi astrology uses 9 planet and combination so it > > > is vedic astrology. Naadi uses the 9 planets and combination only to > > > suggest that these effect will be felt strongly or weak manner. > > > Secondly it uses them to decide the time periods. Apart from that it > > > uses them to reflect birth positions and transit positions. Apart from > > > these there are many areas where naadi is different from vedic > > > astrology. It does not use divisional charts , does not use naadi > > > amsas, even does not give lagna or chandra degrees. Gopalkrishna is > > > nakshatra based and naadi does not give description of nakshatra > > > except birth nakshatra. I would want to know your views what is the > > > similarity that you see with respect to vedic astrology. > > > > > > If you are actualy interested to go deeper I would also suggest that > > > if you get time to get some siva nadi readings done, it will be more > > > clear to you. It will also provide more clarity on free will and > > > destiny. Also if you pose this question in the prashna naadi the > > > answers might change your perspective towards the subject. > > > > > > Regards > > > Shortcut > > > > > > > <%40>, > > > " jsebastian88 " > > > <jsebastian88@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > dear sarvan sekger, > > > > have you ever know about chandra kala nadi, deva > > > > keralam, bhrighu samhitha,sukar nadi, etc .there are various > astrology > > > > books wriiten based on nadi astrology techniques. have you ever read > > > > research articles by rayudu. have you ever read gopalakrishna. > K.N 's > > > > ground breaking predictive techniques of nadi astrology. first > read it > > > > and then comment on whether nadi is different from vedic. i see > there > > > > is no differece between nadi astrology and vedic astrology.both are > > > > same. yes you can predict exact happening through vedic > astrology. but > > > > many of things hidden in vedic astrology is not known to the todays > > > > world. please read the book writen by gopalakrishnan on nadi > techniqe. > > > > gopalakrishnan is the only person so far seen predicting exact > detail > > > > thru vedic astrology. > > > > > > > > i did not say everybody dies only because of third round of sade > > > > sathi. there are many other factors too. exampla bad placement of > > > > rahu, bad yogas causing death in early age. if sani is stronge you > > > > will have long life. apart from this people usually die between > this 7 > > > > 1/2 years of saturn . have you read varahamirahs confession on > > > > longivity please read it first. > > > > > > > > regards, sebastian > > > > > > > > @ . > com<%40>, > > > Sarvan Shekhar > > > > <mr_saravana@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear sebastian, > > > > > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â I think you are a good > > > > reader of astrology books thats why you are explaining with sade > sani > > > > and death what if every one should die only in the third round > of sade > > > > sani means why child death, middle age death happens, one more thing > > > > sebastian Astrology is a type of calculation it wont reveal the > exact > > > > happenings, and humble request dont compare astrology with NAADI > both > > > > are differ. > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 17/8/08, jsebastian88 <jsebastian88@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > jsebastian88 <jsebastian88@ > > > > > > AGE OF DEATH IN NADI > > > > > @ . > com<%40> > > > > > Sunday, 17 August, 2008, 12:10 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you people carefully look into the age of death(as told in nadi > > > > > astrology) upto which the person lives without any threat to > his life, > > > > > the age of death is almost equal to age in which saturn comes > to your > > > > > 12th house(from moon) for third time ( what i meant is sade > sati or > > > > > 3rd time 7 1/2 sani in tamil 0r ezharrai naattu sani or also > marana > > > > sani). > > > > > > > > > > for me age of death almost is exactly at the start of 3rd time > 7 1/2 > > > > > sani. for my fathers too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did you know? 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Guest guest Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 Dear sebastian and allgroup members(tamil), Pls visit following link reg nadi. It is very useful. Regds senthil http://visvacomplex.com/nadi_jothidam1.html http://visvacomplex.com/nadi_jothidam2.html http://visvacomplex.com/nadi_jothidam3.html http://visvacomplex.com/nadi_jothidam4.html http://visvacomplex.com/nadi_jothidam5.html--- On Wed, 20/8/08, jsebastian88 <jsebastian88 wrote: jsebastian88 <jsebastian88 Re: AGE OF DEATH IN NADI Date: Wednesday, 20 August, 2008, 8:06 PM dear shortcut (ha ha ha),first of all dont call me sir, cause i am not 40 or 50year old. how do you know nadi doesnt use divisional chart, naadiamsas, nakshaktra things etc. in this cases you need to thinklogically. before talking about logic you need to know one thing. nadiis something mysterious not yet decoded properly.yet lot of researchhas to be done on this. people who wrote this nadi leaves have notrevealed us how they did that. only possible way is vedic astrology.thats why both gopalakrishnan and rayudu say lot of research has to bedone. they too tell nadi astrology is none other than vedic astrology.both have experienced nadi astrology. nadi astrology is the onlyinspiration for them to study vedic astrology. rayudu is a student ofb.v.raman another great astrologer. i even seen rayudu explainingabout nadi amsas in nadi astrology in his website.quite interesting.vedic astrology is mother of all other astrology including nadiastrology. since they have not used divi chart,nadi amsas etc in thatnadi leaf it does not mean that it is not vedic astrology. ok can youshow me the materialistic evidence that vedic astrology is not nadiastrology. i too cannot prove vedic astrology is nadi astrology. onlything we have to do here is to find what are the possibilities. i am still skeptical about great sages actually wrote this nadiastrology prediction. i strongly believe this is handy work ofordinary ancient vedic astrologers. because space limitations they mayhave not written those div charts in those nadi leaf. since there aremany leaves to be written for many people, they have written onlythose predictions in that nadi leaves.who said you nadi astrology actually not predict position oflagna in our chart. for me they predicted it perfect. (awesomely spoton ) in nadi leaves usually it(lagna) is denoted as "ooyir" or "aavi"(in tamil). if you see in agastya nadi exact positiomn of lagna isaccurately given. i got my reading in agastya nadi in kanchipuram byd.balasubramanium. i dont know about siva nadi. why siva nadi dontgive lagna that i dont know. but agastya nadi did it accurately. thisis too long remaining later. last but not least if you have time gotoagastya nadi in kanchipuram. nothing in the world has amazed me asnadi astrology. , "shortcut"<shortcutfromdos@ ...> wrote:>> Hi Sebastian sir,> > I was seeing your reply about naadi and vedic astrology. Many of us> think that since naadi astrology uses 9 planet and combination so it> is vedic astrology. Naadi uses the 9 planets and combination only to> suggest that these effect will be felt strongly or weak manner.> Secondly it uses them to decide the time periods. Apart from that it> uses them to reflect birth positions and transit positions. Apart from> these there are many areas where naadi is different from vedic> astrology. It does not use divisional charts , does not use naadi> amsas, even does not give lagna or chandra degrees. Gopalkrishna is> nakshatra based and naadi does not give description of nakshatra> except birth nakshatra. I would want to know your views what is the> similarity that you see with respect to vedic astrology. > > If you are actualy interested to go deeper I would also suggest that> if you get time to get some siva nadi readings done, it will be more> clear to you. It will also provide more clarity on free will and> destiny. Also if you pose this question in the prashna naadi the> answers might change your perspective towards the subject. > > Regards> Shortcut> > > > > > , "jsebastian88"> <jsebastian88@ > wrote:> >> > dear sarvan sekger,> > have you ever know about chandra kala nadi, deva> > keralam, bhrighu samhitha,sukar nadi, etc .there are various astrology> > books wriiten based on nadi astrology techniques. have you ever read> > research articles by rayudu. have you ever read gopalakrishna. K.N 's> > ground breaking predictive techniques of nadi astrology. first read it> > and then comment on whether nadi is different from vedic. i see there> > is no differece between nadi astrology and vedic astrology.both are> > same. yes you can predict exact happening through vedic astrology. but> > many of things hidden in vedic astrology is not known to the todays> > world. please read the book writen by gopalakrishnan on nadi techniqe.> > gopalakrishnan is the only person so far seen predicting exact detail> > thru vedic astrology.> > > > i did not say everybody dies only because of third round of sade> > sathi. there are many other factors too. exampla bad placement of> > rahu, bad yogas causing death in early age. if sani is stronge you> > will have long life. apart from this people usually die between this 7> > 1/2 years of saturn . have you read varahamirahs confession on> > longivity please read it first.> > > > regards, sebastian > > > > @ . com, Sarvan Shekhar> > <mr_saravana@ > wrote:> > >> > > Dear sebastian,> > > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â I think you are a good> > reader of astrology books thats why you are explaining with sade sani> > and death what if every one should die only in the third round of sade> > sani means why child death, middle age death happens, one more thing> > sebastian Astrology is a type of calculation it wont reveal the exact> > happenings, and humble request dont compare astrology with NAADI both> > are differ.> > > > > > Â > > > Â > > > > > > --- On Sun, 17/8/08, jsebastian88 <jsebastian88@ > wrote:> > > > > > jsebastian88 <jsebastian88@ >> > > AGE OF DEATH IN NADI> > > > > > Sunday, 17 August, 2008, 12:10 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you people carefully look into the age of death(as told in nadi> > > astrology) upto which the person lives without any threat to hislife,> > > the age of death is almost equal to age in which saturn comes toyour> > > 12th house(from moon) for third time ( what i meant is sade sati or> > > 3rd time 7 1/2 sani in tamil 0r ezharrai naattu sani or also marana> > sani).> > > > > > for me age of death almost is exactly at the start of 3rd time 7 1/2> > > sani. for my fathers too.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did you know? 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Guest guest Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 The casted chart was complete: It had day of birth, star( with padam), tithi, date of birth, year except the balance of dasa. One thing we forget: Astrology is part of veda irrespective of its tyes. I have seen some astrolgers in south Tamilnadu, take thumb print like a naadi and cast the charts. But they don't refer the leafes. They do all before you. Dhinakar From: netpostingidDate: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 06:29:50 +0000 Re: AGE OF DEATH IN NADI Then the guy you saw might be really good in astrology that he cast your chart before you. i do have a thought that nadi astrology is form of astrology or it uses astrology. From my experience the fake nadi readers uses astrology only. Because the guy i saw was mainly focussing to know my birth lagna,year and month and all. Then he was saying, your 7th god is in 6th postion which is not good. thats why your marriage is getting delayed.. blah blah.. i can't comment on Nadi as whole but fake nadi uses astrology. This is my opinion. , "rdhinakar4477" <dhinakarrajaram wrote: > > Dear Dr. Gurusaravanan, > > I don't go with your words. There may be some cases like that. When I > saw mine, the horoscope was actually casted in front of my eyes and I > was asked to verify the positions. And, no one advertising the > balasubramaniam or his centre, just a guidance. I never gave any > credentials that this guy is good or bad. What I gave was just a piece > of information as he has a good clientèle and has some reputation. It > is upto the questioner to decide whom to approach or not to approach. > I think you can't differentiate between a suggestion and a > advertisement. As if a naadi centre or anything which is (if) good, > it will be visited by many without any advertisement as for these guys > the main advertisement is word of mouth. In chennai and in many areas > even in kanchipuram I have seen many so called naadi readers advertise > with signboards and direction boards, even I saw some in Orkut space. > If any naadi centre uses advertisement in any form except for name > board in front of the centre, the centre can be said as not genuine, > this is from my research. > > Kindly read between lines (on certain cases) and post your views. > > Dhinakar > > , "Dr. Gurusaravanan" > <kuttinguru@> wrote: > > > > Dear all > > > > Nowadays i see lot of posts written about a particular astrologer > > D.Balasubramaniam.I dont know whether he gives genuine reading or > not and > > the posts coming one after another looks like an advertising > campaign for > > him by others purposely. > > > > And abt the last post,no naadi gives lagna position.the naadi > readers when > > they read naadis one by one during question section find out > yours(usually > > they ask in threes-are u vrischik or dhanus or makara) and by this > way they > > rule out others and find out ur lagna. > > > > And when they claim they found ur naadi,it is not a big job to sing > a line > > saying you are so and so lagna.afterall no lines are in the naadi > really. > > > > All they do is find out the DOB by trial and error method,go to room > ,cast a > > chart and ready a song verse based on planetary position and > finally tell u > > general results and planetary transit results based on Jupiter and Guru. > > > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 9:33 PM, Sarvan Shekhar <mr_saravana@>wrote: > > > > > Please see the attachments. > > > > > > Dear sebastian, > > > I here attached kalyanavarma,saravali,lalkitab books first read > this and > > > you should predict one month happenings in india, see I have read > all the > > > books and the reputed PULIPPANI jothidam by Pulippani this book is > explained > > > by songs I red all and I would say NAADI is the best(if you get > your NAADI > > > readings exact) so dont compare SAGES with normal astrologers.... > > > > > > > > > --- On *Wed, 20/8/08, shortcut <shortcutfromdos@>* wrote: > > > > > > shortcut <shortcutfromdos@> > > > Re: AGE OF DEATH IN NADI > > > > > > Wednesday, 20 August, 2008, 1:59 AM > > > > > > Hi Sebastian sir, > > > > > > I was seeing your reply about naadi and vedic astrology. Many of us > > > think that since naadi astrology uses 9 planet and combination so it > > > is vedic astrology. Naadi uses the 9 planets and combination only to > > > suggest that these effect will be felt strongly or weak manner. > > > Secondly it uses them to decide the time periods. Apart from that it > > > uses them to reflect birth positions and transit positions. Apart from > > > these there are many areas where naadi is different from vedic > > > astrology. It does not use divisional charts , does not use naadi > > > amsas, even does not give lagna or chandra degrees. Gopalkrishna is > > > nakshatra based and naadi does not give description of nakshatra > > > except birth nakshatra. I would want to know your views what is the > > > similarity that you see with respect to vedic astrology. > > > > > > If you are actualy interested to go deeper I would also suggest that > > > if you get time to get some siva nadi readings done, it will be more > > > clear to you. It will also provide more clarity on free will and > > > destiny. Also if you pose this question in the prashna naadi the > > > answers might change your perspective towards the subject. > > > > > > Regards > > > Shortcut > > > > > > > <%40>, > > > "jsebastian88" > > > <jsebastian88@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > dear sarvan sekger, > > > > have you ever know about chandra kala nadi, deva > > > > keralam, bhrighu samhitha,sukar nadi, etc .there are various > astrology > > > > books wriiten based on nadi astrology techniques. have you ever read > > > > research articles by rayudu. have you ever read gopalakrishna. > K.N 's > > > > ground breaking predictive techniques of nadi astrology. first > read it > > > > and then comment on whether nadi is different from vedic. i see > there > > > > is no differece between nadi astrology and vedic astrology.both are > > > > same. yes you can predict exact happening through vedic > astrology. but > > > > many of things hidden in vedic astrology is not known to the todays > > > > world. please read the book writen by gopalakrishnan on nadi > techniqe. > > > > gopalakrishnan is the only person so far seen predicting exact > detail > > > > thru vedic astrology. > > > > > > > > i did not say everybody dies only because of third round of sade > > > > sathi. there are many other factors too. exampla bad placement of > > > > rahu, bad yogas causing death in early age. if sani is stronge you > > > > will have long life. apart from this people usually die between > this 7 > > > > 1/2 years of saturn . have you read varahamirahs confession on > > > > longivity please read it first. > > > > > > > > regards, sebastian > > > > > > > > @ . > com<%40>, > > > Sarvan Shekhar > > > > <mr_saravana@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear sebastian, > > > > > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â I think you are a good > > > > reader of astrology books thats why you are explaining with sade > sani > > > > and death what if every one should die only in the third round > of sade > > > > sani means why child death, middle age death happens, one more thing > > > > sebastian Astrology is a type of calculation it wont reveal the > exact > > > > happenings, and humble request dont compare astrology with NAADI > both > > > > are differ. > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 17/8/08, jsebastian88 <jsebastian88@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > jsebastian88 <jsebastian88@ > > > > > > AGE OF DEATH IN NADI > > > > > @ . > com<%40> > > > > > Sunday, 17 August, 2008, 12:10 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you people carefully look into the age of death(as told in nadi > > > > > astrology) upto which the person lives without any threat to > his life, > > > > > the age of death is almost equal to age in which saturn comes > to your > > > > > 12th house(from moon) for third time ( what i meant is sade > sati or > > > > > 3rd time 7 1/2 sani in tamil 0r ezharrai naattu sani or also > marana > > > > sani). > > > > > > > > > > for me age of death almost is exactly at the start of 3rd time > 7 1/2 > > > > > sani. for my fathers too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did you know? 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Guest guest Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 Dear Sebastian, I have been a follower of Naadi/Samhita predictive systems for more than twenty years.In fact I became very curious about Astrology after my brush with Naadi/ Samhita predictions which greatly influenced me to study astrology. I am therefore very happy to know that you got correct lagna ansha - Ascendant degrees from your Naadi reading. I would be indeed obliged if you would be so good as to kindly let me know how and which source you used to verify/ compare the accuracy of the Lagna Amsha given in the Naadi. I do not think Naadi/ samhita predictions are based on Astrology for several reasons too numerous to discuss in this post, now. We however must and should go into all aspects of Naadi predictions if they are based on planetary/ Nakshatra longitudes and if so what connection they have any with Vedic Astrology. Regds VBD --- Prakansen Senthil <prakansen wrote: > Dear sebastian and allgroup members(tamil), >  > Pls visit following link reg nadi. > It is very useful. > Regds > senthil >  > http://visvacomplex.com/nadi_jothidam1.html > http://visvacomplex.com/nadi_jothidam2.html > http://visvacomplex.com/nadi_jothidam3.html > http://visvacomplex.com/nadi_jothidam4.html > http://visvacomplex.com/nadi_jothidam5.html > > --- On Wed, 20/8/08, jsebastian88 > <jsebastian88 wrote: > > jsebastian88 <jsebastian88 > Re: AGE OF DEATH IN NADI > > Wednesday, 20 August, 2008, 8:06 PM dear shortcut (ha ha ha), > first of all dont call me sir, cause i am not 40 or > 50 > year old. how do you know nadi doesnt use divisional > chart, naadi > amsas, nakshaktra things etc. in this cases you need > to think > logically. before talking about logic you need to > know one thing. nadi > is something mysterious not yet decoded properly.yet > lot of research > has to be done on this. people who wrote this nadi > leaves have not > revealed us how they did that. only possible way is > vedic astrology. > thats why both gopalakrishnan and rayudu say lot of > research has to be > done. they too tell nadi astrology is none other > than vedic astrology. > both have experienced nadi astrology. nadi astrology > is the only > inspiration for them to study vedic astrology. > rayudu is a student of > b.v.raman another great astrologer. i even seen > rayudu explaining > about nadi amsas in nadi astrology in his > website.quite interesting. > vedic astrology is mother of all other astrology > including nadi > astrology. since they have not used divi chart,nadi > amsas etc in that > nadi leaf it does not mean that it is not vedic > astrology. ok can you > show me the materialistic evidence that vedic > astrology is not nadi > astrology. i too cannot prove vedic astrology is > nadi astrology. only > thing we have to do here is to find what are the > possibilities. > i am still skeptical about great sages actually > wrote this nadi > astrology prediction. i strongly believe this is > handy work of > ordinary ancient vedic astrologers. because space > limitations they may > have not written those div charts in those nadi > leaf. since there are > many leaves to be written for many people, they have > written only > those predictions in that nadi leaves. > who said you nadi astrology actually not predict > position of > lagna in our chart. for me they predicted it > perfect. (awesomely spot > on ) in nadi leaves usually it(lagna) is denoted as > " ooyir " or " aavi " > (in tamil). if you see in agastya nadi exact > positiomn of lagna is > accurately given. i got my reading in agastya nadi > in kanchipuram by > d.balasubramanium. i dont know about siva nadi. why > siva nadi dont > give lagna that i dont know. but agastya nadi did it > accurately. this > is too long remaining later. last but not least if > you have time goto > agastya nadi in kanchipuram. nothing in the world > has amazed me as > nadi astrology. > > , " shortcut " > <shortcutfromdos@ ...> wrote: > > > > Hi Sebastian sir, > > > > I was seeing your reply about naadi and vedic > astrology. Many of us > > think that since naadi astrology uses 9 planet and > combination so it > > is vedic astrology. Naadi uses the 9 planets and > combination only to > > suggest that these effect will be felt strongly or > weak manner. > > Secondly it uses them to decide the time periods. > Apart from that it > > uses them to reflect birth positions and transit > positions. Apart from > > these there are many areas where naadi is > different from vedic > > astrology. It does not use divisional charts , > does not use naadi > > amsas, even does not give lagna or chandra > degrees. Gopalkrishna is > > nakshatra based and naadi does not give > description of nakshatra > > except birth nakshatra. I would want to know your > views what is the > > similarity that you see with respect to vedic > astrology. > > > > If you are actualy interested to go deeper I would > also suggest that > > if you get time to get some siva nadi readings > done, it will be more > > clear to you. It will also provide more clarity on > free will and > > destiny. Also if you pose this question in the > prashna naadi the > > answers might change your perspective towards the > subject. > > > > Regards > > Shortcut > > > > > > > > > > > > , > " jsebastian88 " > > <jsebastian88@ > wrote: > > > > > > dear sarvan sekger, > > > have you ever know about chandra kala nadi, deva > > > keralam, bhrighu samhitha,sukar nadi, etc .there > are various astrology > > > books wriiten based on nadi astrology > techniques. have you ever read > > > research articles by rayudu. have you ever read > gopalakrishna. K.N 's > > > ground breaking predictive techniques of nadi > astrology. first read it > > > and then comment on whether nadi is different > from vedic. i see there > > > is no differece between nadi astrology and vedic > astrology.both are > > > same. yes you can predict exact happening > through vedic astrology. but > > > many of things hidden in vedic astrology is not > known to the todays > > > world. please read the book writen by > gopalakrishnan on nadi techniqe. > > > gopalakrishnan is the only person so far seen > predicting exact detail > > > thru vedic astrology. > > > > > > i did not say everybody dies only because of > third round of sade > > > sathi. there are many other factors too. exampla > bad placement of > > > rahu, bad yogas causing death in early age. if > sani is stronge you > > > will have long life. apart from this people > usually die between this 7 > > > 1/2 years of saturn . have you read varahamirahs > confession on > > > longivity please read it first. > > > > > > regards, sebastian > > > > > > , Sarvan > Shekhar > > > <mr_saravana@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear sebastian, > > > > >                     \  > I think you are a good > > > reader of astrology books thats why you are > explaining with sade sani > > > and death what if every one should die only in > the third round of sade > > > sani means why child death, middle age death > happens, one more thing > > > sebastian Astrology is a type of calculation it > wont === message truncated === Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. 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Guest guest Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 Saravana Thanks for your ebooks Warm Regards Vijayakumar . S. Mobile No.:09866 264 274 --- On Wed, 8/20/08, Sarvan Shekhar <mr_saravana wrote:Sarvan Shekhar <mr_saravanaRe: Re: AGE OF DEATH IN NADI Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 9:33 PM Please see the attachments. Dear sebastian, I here attached kalyanavarma, saravali, lalkitab books first read this and you should predict one month happenings in india, see I have read all the books and the reputed PULIPPANI jothidam by Pulippani this book is explained by songs I red all and I would say NAADI is the best(if you get your NAADI readings exact) so dont compare SAGES with normal astrologers. ... --- On Wed, 20/8/08, shortcut <shortcutfromdos@ > wrote: shortcut <shortcutfromdos@ > Re: AGE OF DEATH IN NADIWednesday, 20 August, 2008, 1:59 AM Hi Sebastian sir,I was seeing your reply about naadi and vedic astrology. Many of usthink that since naadi astrology uses 9 planet and combination so itis vedic astrology. Naadi uses the 9 planets and combination only tosuggest that these effect will be felt strongly or weak manner.Secondly it uses them to decide the time periods. Apart from that ituses them to reflect birth positions and transit positions. Apart fromthese there are many areas where naadi is different from Vedic Astrology. It does not use divisional charts , does not use naadiamsas, even does not give lagna or chandra degrees. Gopalkrishna isnakshatra based and naadi does not give description of nakshatraexcept birth nakshatra. I would want to know your views what is thesimilarity that you see with respect to vedic astrology. If you are actualy interested to go deeper I would also suggest thatif you get time to get some siva nadi readings done, it will be moreclear to you. It will also provide more clarity on free will anddestiny. Also if you pose this question in the prashna naadi theanswers might change your perspective towards the subject. RegardsShortcut, "jsebastian88"<jsebastian88@ ...> wrote:>> dear sarvan sekger,> have you ever know about chandra kala nadi, deva> keralam, bhrighu samhitha,sukar nadi, etc .there are various astrology> books wriiten based on nadi astrology techniques. have you ever read> research articles by rayudu. have you ever read gopalakrishna. K.N 's> ground breaking predictive techniques of nadi astrology. first read it> and then comment on whether nadi is different from vedic. i see there> is no differece between nadi astrology and vedic astrology.both are> same. yes you can predict exact happening through vedic astrology. but> many of things hidden in vedic astrology is not known to the todays> world. please read the book writen by gopalakrishnan on nadi techniqe.> gopalakrishnan is the only person so far seen predicting exact detail> thru vedic astrology.> > i did not say everybody dies only because of third round of sade> sathi. there are many other factors too. exampla bad placement of> rahu, bad yogas causing death in early age. if sani is stronge you> will have long life. apart from this people usually die between this 7> 1/2 years of saturn . have you read varahamirahs confession on> longivity please read it first.> > regards, sebastian > > @ . com, Sarvan Shekhar> <mr_saravana@ > wrote:> >> > Dear sebastian,> > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â I think you are a good> reader of astrology books thats why you are explaining with sade sani> and death what if every one should die only in the third round of sade> sani means why child death, middle age death happens, one more thing> sebastian Astrology is a type of calculation it wont reveal the exact> happenings, and humble request dont compare astrology with NAADI both> are differ.> > > > Â > > Â > > > > --- On Sun, 17/8/08, jsebastian88 <jsebastian88@ > wrote:> > > > jsebastian88 <jsebastian88@ >> > AGE OF DEATH IN NADI> > > > Sunday, 17 August, 2008, 12:10 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you people carefully look into the age of death(as told in nadi> > astrology) upto which the person lives without any threat to his life,> > the age of death is almost equal to age in which saturn comes to your> > 12th house(from moon) for third time ( what i meant is sade sati or> > 3rd time 7 1/2 sani in tamil 0r ezharrai naattu sani or also marana> sani).> > > > for me age of death almost is exactly at the start of 3rd time 7 1/2> > sani. for my fathers too.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Go> to http://in.webmessen ger.. com/> >> Download prohibited? No problem. CHAT from any browser, without download. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 dear sarvan, i too know nadi astrology is the best. but do you have any materialistic evidence that proves sages are the authors of nadi leaves. definitely these are the work of ancient vedic astrologers. may be nadi astrology is the main contender for unified field theory of space continum. , Sarvan Shekhar <mr_saravana wrote: > > Please see the attachments. >             > Dear sebastian, >  I here attached kalyanavarma,saravali,lalkitab books first read this and you should predict one month happenings in india, see I have read all the books and the reputed PULIPPANI jothidam by Pulippani this book is explained by songs I red all and I would say NAADI is the best(if you get your NAADI readings exact) so dont compare SAGES with normal astrologers.... >  >  > --- On Wed, 20/8/08, shortcut <shortcutfromdos wrote: > > shortcut <shortcutfromdos > Re: AGE OF DEATH IN NADI > > Wednesday, 20 August, 2008, 1:59 AM Hi Sebastian sir, > > I was seeing your reply about naadi and vedic astrology. Many of us > think that since naadi astrology uses 9 planet and combination so it > is vedic astrology. Naadi uses the 9 planets and combination only to > suggest that these effect will be felt strongly or weak manner. > Secondly it uses them to decide the time periods. Apart from that it > uses them to reflect birth positions and transit positions. Apart from > these there are many areas where naadi is different from vedic > astrology. It does not use divisional charts , does not use naadi > amsas, even does not give lagna or chandra degrees. Gopalkrishna is > nakshatra based and naadi does not give description of nakshatra > except birth nakshatra. I would want to know your views what is the > similarity that you see with respect to vedic astrology. > > If you are actualy interested to go deeper I would also suggest that > if you get time to get some siva nadi readings done, it will be more > clear to you. It will also provide more clarity on free will and > destiny. Also if you pose this question in the prashna naadi the > answers might change your perspective towards the subject. > > Regards > Shortcut > > , " jsebastian88 " > <jsebastian88@ ...> wrote: > > > > dear sarvan sekger, > > have you ever know about chandra kala nadi, deva > > keralam, bhrighu samhitha,sukar nadi, etc .there are various astrology > > books wriiten based on nadi astrology techniques. have you ever read > > research articles by rayudu. have you ever read gopalakrishna. K.N 's > > ground breaking predictive techniques of nadi astrology. first read it > > and then comment on whether nadi is different from vedic. i see there > > is no differece between nadi astrology and vedic astrology.both are > > same. yes you can predict exact happening through vedic astrology. but > > many of things hidden in vedic astrology is not known to the todays > > world. please read the book writen by gopalakrishnan on nadi techniqe. > > gopalakrishnan is the only person so far seen predicting exact detail > > thru vedic astrology. > > > > i did not say everybody dies only because of third round of sade > > sathi. there are many other factors too. exampla bad placement of > > rahu, bad yogas causing death in early age. if sani is stronge you > > will have long life. apart from this people usually die between this 7 > > 1/2 years of saturn . have you read varahamirahs confession on > > longivity please read it first. > > > > regards, sebastian > > > > , Sarvan Shekhar > > <mr_saravana@ > wrote: > > > > > > Dear sebastian, > > >                     \  I think you are a good > > reader of astrology books thats why you are explaining with sade sani > > and death what if every one should die only in the third round of sade > > sani means why child death, middle age death happens, one more thing > > sebastian Astrology is a type of calculation it wont reveal the exact > > happenings, and humble request dont compare astrology with NAADI both > > are differ. > > > > > >  > > >  > > > > > > --- On Sun, 17/8/08, jsebastian88 <jsebastian88@ > wrote: > > > > > > jsebastian88 <jsebastian88@ > > > > AGE OF DEATH IN NADI > > > > > > Sunday, 17 August, 2008, 12:10 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you people carefully look into the age of death(as told in nadi > > > astrology) upto which the person lives without any threat to his life, > > > the age of death is almost equal to age in which saturn comes to your > > > 12th house(from moon) for third time ( what i meant is sade sati or > > > 3rd time 7 1/2 sani in tamil 0r ezharrai naattu sani or also marana > > sani). > > > > > > for me age of death almost is exactly at the start of 3rd time 7 1/2 > > > sani. for my fathers too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did you know? 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Guest guest Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 Even for me, my father and my sister the chart details were 100% correct. Our readings were seen by D. balasubramaniam.Dhinakar From: jsebastian88Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 08:22:37 +0000Fwd: Re: Re: AGE OF DEATH IN NADI my reply is --- see the reply of mine to guy called shortcut. and refer rayudu astrology website for your answers. yes my lagna was predicted accurately in agastya nadi in kanchipuram. i gave only my thumb print. i dont know others not believing it. i chanllenge any one to agastya nadi in kanchipuram . they will give you the exact details of you birth chart. they dont ask your date of birth , but still they will give your lagna and etc. and read those article given by prakasen senthil . it was awesome , vbdeshmukh <deshmukhv wrote: > > Dear Sebastian, > I am eagerly awaiting the favour of your compliance > with my request to enlighten me about the > source/panchang/ ephemeris you referred to > verify/compare your Lagna Amsha/Asc. Degree as given > in your Naadi. > Regds, > VBD > --- vbdeshmukh <deshmukhv wrote: > > > > > vbdeshmukh <deshmukhv > > Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:07:28 +0100 (BST) > > Re: Re: AGE OF DEATH IN > > NADI > > > > Dear Sebastian, > > I have been a follower of Naadi/Samhita predictive > > systems for more than twenty years.In fact I became > > very curious about Astrology after my brush with > > Naadi/ Samhita predictions which greatly influenced > > me > > to study astrology. > > I am therefore very happy to know that you got > > correct > > lagna ansha - Ascendant degrees from your Naadi > > reading. I would be indeed obliged if you would be > > so > > good as to kindly let me know how and which source > > you > > used to verify/ compare the accuracy of the Lagna > > Amsha given in the Naadi. > > I do not think Naadi/ samhita predictions are based > > on > > Astrology for several reasons too numerous to > > discuss > > in this post, now. We however must and should go > > into > > all aspects of Naadi predictions if they are based > > on > > planetary/ Nakshatra longitudes and if so what > > connection they have any with Vedic Astrology. > > Regds > > VBD > > > > --- Prakansen Senthil <prakansen wrote: > > > > > Dear sebastian and allgroup members(tamil), > > >  > > > Pls visit following link reg nadi. > > > It is very useful. > > > Regds > > > senthil > > >  > > > http://visvacomplex.com/nadi_jothidam1.html > > > http://visvacomplex.com/nadi_jothidam2.html > > > http://visvacomplex.com/nadi_jothidam3.html > > > http://visvacomplex.com/nadi_jothidam4.html > > > http://visvacomplex.com/nadi_jothidam5.html > > > > > > --- On Wed, 20/8/08, jsebastian88 > > > <jsebastian88 wrote: > > > > > > jsebastian88 <jsebastian88 > > > Re: AGE OF DEATH IN NADI > > > > > > Wednesday, 20 August, 2008, 8:06 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear shortcut (ha ha ha), > > > first of all dont call me sir, cause i am not 40 > > or > > > 50 > > > year old. how do you know nadi doesnt use > > divisional > > > chart, naadi > > > amsas, nakshaktra things etc. in this cases you > > need > > > to think > > > logically. before talking about logic you need to > > > know one thing. nadi > > > is something mysterious not yet decoded > > properly.yet > > > lot of research > > > has to be done on this. people who wrote this nadi > > > leaves have not > > > revealed us how they did that. only possible way > > is > > > vedic astrology. > > > thats why both gopalakrishnan and rayudu say lot > > of > > > research has to be > > > done. they too tell nadi astrology is none other > > > than vedic astrology. > > > both have experienced nadi astrology. nadi > > astrology > > > is the only > > > inspiration for them to study vedic astrology. > > > rayudu is a student of > > > b.v.raman another great astrologer. i even seen > > > rayudu explaining > > > about nadi amsas in nadi astrology in his > > > website.quite interesting. > > > vedic astrology is mother of all other astrology > > > including nadi > > > astrology. since they have not used divi > > chart,nadi > > > amsas etc in that > > > nadi leaf it does not mean that it is not vedic > > > astrology. ok can you > > > show me the materialistic evidence that vedic > > > astrology is not nadi > > > astrology. i too cannot prove vedic astrology is > > > nadi astrology. only > > > thing we have to do here is to find what are the > > > possibilities. > > > i am still skeptical about great sages actually > > > wrote this nadi > > > astrology prediction. i strongly believe this is > > > handy work of > > > ordinary ancient vedic astrologers. because space > > > limitations they may > > > have not written those div charts in those nadi > > > leaf. since there are > > > many leaves to be written for many people, they > > have > > > written only > > > those predictions in that nadi leaves. > > > who said you nadi astrology actually not predict > > > position of > > > lagna in our chart. for me they predicted it > > > perfect. (awesomely spot > > > on ) in nadi leaves usually it(lagna) is denoted > > as > > > "ooyir" or "aavi" > > > (in tamil). if you see in agastya nadi exact > > > positiomn of lagna is > > > accurately given. i got my reading in agastya nadi > > > in kanchipuram by > > > d.balasubramanium. i dont know about siva nadi. > > why > > > siva nadi dont > > > give lagna that i dont know. but agastya nadi did > > it > > > accurately. this > > > is too long remaining later. last but not least if > > > you have time goto > > > agastya nadi in kanchipuram. nothing in the world > > > has amazed me as > > > nadi astrology. > > > > > > , > > "shortcut" > > > <shortcutfromdos@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Sebastian sir, > > > > > > > > I was seeing your reply about naadi and vedic > > > astrology. Many of us > > > > think that since naadi astrology uses 9 planet > > and > > > combination so it > > > > is vedic astrology. Naadi uses the 9 planets and > > > combination only to > > > > suggest that these effect will be felt strongly > > or > > > weak manner. > > > > Secondly it uses them to decide the time > > periods. > > > Apart from that it > > > > uses them to reflect birth positions and transit > > > positions. Apart from > > > > these there are many areas where naadi is > > > different from vedic > > > > astrology. It does not use divisional charts , > > > does not use naadi > > > > amsas, even does not give lagna or chandra > > > degrees. Gopalkrishna is > > > > nakshatra based and naadi does not give > > > description of nakshatra > > > > except birth nakshatra. I would want to know > > your > > > views what is the > > > > similarity that you see with respect to vedic > > > astrology. > > > > > > > > If you are actualy interested to go deeper I > > would > > > also suggest that > > > > if you get time to get some siva nadi readings > > > done, it will be more > > > > clear to you. It will also provide more clarity > > on > > > free will and > > > > destiny. Also if you pose this question in the > > > prashna naadi the > > > > answers might change your perspective towards > > the > > > subject. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Shortcut > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > "jsebastian88" > > > > <jsebastian88@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > dear sarvan sekger, > > > > > have you ever know about chandra kala nadi, > > deva > > > > > keralam, bhrighu samhitha,sukar nadi, etc > > .there > > > are various astrology > > > > > books wriiten based on nadi astrology > > > techniques. have you ever read > > > > > research articles by rayudu. have you ever > > read > > > gopalakrishna. K.N 's > > > > > ground breaking predictive techniques of nadi > > > astrology. first read it > > > > > and then comment on whether nadi is different > > > from vedic. i see there > > > > > is no differece between nadi astrology and > > vedic > > > astrology.both are > > > > > same. yes you can predict exact happening > > > through vedic astrology. but > > > > > many of things hidden in vedic astrology is > > not > > > known to the todays > > > > > world. please read the book writen by > > > gopalakrishnan on nadi techniqe. > > > > > gopalakrishnan is the only person so far seen > > > predicting exact detail > > > > > thru vedic astrology. > > > > > > > > > > i did not say everybody dies only because of > > > third round of sade > > > > > sathi. there are many other factors too. > > exampla > > > bad placement of > > > > > rahu, bad yogas causing death in early age. if > > > sani is stronge you > > > > > will have long life. apart from this people > > > usually die between this 7 > > > > > 1/2 years of saturn . have you read > > varahamirahs > > > confession on > > > > > longivity please read it first. > > > > > > > > > > regards, sebastian > > > > > > > > > > , > > Sarvan > > > Shekhar > > > > > <mr_saravana@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear sebastian, > > > > > > > > > > > >                      > > > I think you are a good > > > > > reader of astrology books thats why you are > > > explaining with sade sani > > > > > and death what if every one should die only in > > > the third round of sade > > > > > sani means why child death, middle age death > > > happens, one more thing > > > > > sebastian Astrology is a type of calculation > > it > > > wont > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. 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Guest guest Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 Dear Sebastian, You raised high hopes when you said you got correct Lagna amsha from Naadi and hence I requested you to give me the details of your source which helped you in comparing / verifying the Lagna Amsha.In short, on what basis you found that the lagna degrees were correct ? When you got your birth chart with planetary positions from the Naadi Reader, how did you infer that the chart was correct for the time, date and place of birth ? Probably, you already had your chart with which you compared Naadi Chart or you got it checked with some astrolger who confirmed it as correct.Would you therefore kindly confirm the factual position ? If you are an astrologer or know astrology I am sure you can guess as to what I am hinting at.Shri Rayudu's website simply does not come into picture unless he has confirmed your naadi chart as correct in his website as an example. In that case I can directly approach him and get the details.Hope, no hard feelings. Looking forward to hearing from you, Sinceely, VBD --- Dhinakar Rajaram <dhinakarrajaram wrote: > > Even for me, my father and my sister the chart > details were 100% correct. Our readings were seen > by D. balasubramaniam. > > Dhinakar > > > > jsebastian88 > Sun, 24 Aug 2008 08:22:37 +0000 > Fwd: Re: Re: AGE OF DEATH > IN NADI > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my reply is --- see the reply of mine to > guy called shortcut. and > > refer rayudu astrology website for your answers. > > > > yes my lagna was predicted accurately in agastya > nadi in > > kanchipuram. i gave only my thumb print. i dont know > others not > > believing it. i chanllenge any one to agastya nadi > in kanchipuram . > > they will give you the exact details of you birth > chart. they dont ask > > your date of birth , but still they will give your > lagna and etc. > > > > and read those article given by prakasen senthil . > it was awesome > > > > , vbdeshmukh > <deshmukhv wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sebastian, > > > I am eagerly awaiting the favour of your > compliance > > > with my request to enlighten me about the > > > source/panchang/ ephemeris you referred to > > > verify/compare your Lagna Amsha/Asc. Degree as > given > > > in your Naadi. > > > Regds, > > > VBD > > > --- vbdeshmukh <deshmukhv wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > vbdeshmukh <deshmukhv > > > > Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:07:28 +0100 (BST) > > > > Re: Re: AGE OF DEATH > IN > > > > NADI > > > > > > > > Dear Sebastian, > > > > I have been a follower of Naadi/Samhita > predictive > > > > systems for more than twenty years.In fact I > became > > > > very curious about Astrology after my brush with > > > > Naadi/ Samhita predictions which greatly > influenced > > > > me > > > > to study astrology. > > > > I am therefore very happy to know that you got > > > > correct > > > > lagna ansha - Ascendant degrees from your Naadi > > > > reading. I would be indeed obliged if you would > be > > > > so > > > > good as to kindly let me know how and which > source > > > > you > > > > used to verify/ compare the accuracy of the > Lagna > > > > Amsha given in the Naadi. > > > > I do not think Naadi/ samhita predictions are > based > > > > on > > > > Astrology for several reasons too numerous to > > > > discuss > > > > in this post, now. We however must and should go > > > > into > > > > all aspects of Naadi predictions if they are > based > > > > on > > > > planetary/ Nakshatra longitudes and if so what > > > > connection they have any with Vedic Astrology. > > > > Regds > > > > VBD > > > > > > > > --- Prakansen Senthil <prakansen wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear sebastian and allgroup members(tamil), > > > > > Â > > > > > Pls visit following link reg nadi. > > > > > It is very useful. > > > > > Regds > > > > > senthil > > > > > Â > > > > > http://visvacomplex.com/nadi_jothidam1.html > > > > > http://visvacomplex.com/nadi_jothidam2.html > > > > > http://visvacomplex.com/nadi_jothidam3.html > > > > > http://visvacomplex.com/nadi_jothidam4.html > > > > > http://visvacomplex.com/nadi_jothidam5.html > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 20/8/08, jsebastian88 > > > > > <jsebastian88 wrote: > === message truncated === Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 i dont know why others not beleiving. i got my exact lagna position, all other exact details in agastya nadi kanchipuram by d.balasubramanium. i gave only my thumb print. i revealed my birth date to any one. and i also never revealed my birth time which is more important in predicting the lagna position. they got my lagna position correct. how it is possible. really amazing. i dont know how they did it. , Dhinakar Rajaram <dhinakarrajaram wrote: > > > Even for me, my father and my sister the chart details were 100% correct. Our readings were seen by D. balasubramaniam. > > Dhinakar > > > > jsebastian88 > Sun, 24 Aug 2008 08:22:37 +0000 > Fwd: Re: Re: AGE OF DEATH IN NADI > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my reply is --- see the reply of mine to guy called shortcut. and > > refer rayudu astrology website for your answers. > > > > yes my lagna was predicted accurately in agastya nadi in > > kanchipuram. i gave only my thumb print. i dont know others not > > believing it. i chanllenge any one to agastya nadi in kanchipuram . > > they will give you the exact details of you birth chart. they dont ask > > your date of birth , but still they will give your lagna and etc. > > > > and read those article given by prakasen senthil . it was awesome > > > > , vbdeshmukh <deshmukhv@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sebastian, > > > I am eagerly awaiting the favour of your compliance > > > with my request to enlighten me about the > > > source/panchang/ ephemeris you referred to > > > verify/compare your Lagna Amsha/Asc. Degree as given > > > in your Naadi. > > > Regds, > > > VBD > > > --- vbdeshmukh <deshmukhv@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > vbdeshmukh <deshmukhv@> > > > > Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:07:28 +0100 (BST) > > > > Re: Re: AGE OF DEATH IN > > > > NADI > > > > > > > > Dear Sebastian, > > > > I have been a follower of Naadi/Samhita predictive > > > > systems for more than twenty years.In fact I became > > > > very curious about Astrology after my brush with > > > > Naadi/ Samhita predictions which greatly influenced > > > > me > > > > to study astrology. > > > > I am therefore very happy to know that you got > > > > correct > > > > lagna ansha - Ascendant degrees from your Naadi > > > > reading. I would be indeed obliged if you would be > > > > so > > > > good as to kindly let me know how and which source > > > > you > > > > used to verify/ compare the accuracy of the Lagna > > > > Amsha given in the Naadi. > > > > I do not think Naadi/ samhita predictions are based > > > > on > > > > Astrology for several reasons too numerous to > > > > discuss > > > > in this post, now. We however must and should go > > > > into > > > > all aspects of Naadi predictions if they are based > > > > on > > > > planetary/ Nakshatra longitudes and if so what > > > > connection they have any with Vedic Astrology. > > > > Regds > > > > VBD > > > > > > > > --- Prakansen Senthil <prakansen@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear sebastian and allgroup members(tamil), > > > > >  > > > > > Pls visit following link reg nadi. > > > > > It is very useful. > > > > > Regds > > > > > senthil > > > > >  > > > > > http://visvacomplex.com/nadi_jothidam1.html > > > > > http://visvacomplex.com/nadi_jothidam2.html > > > > > http://visvacomplex.com/nadi_jothidam3.html > > > > > http://visvacomplex.com/nadi_jothidam4.html > > > > > http://visvacomplex.com/nadi_jothidam5.html > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 20/8/08, jsebastian88 > > > > > <jsebastian88@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > jsebastian88 <jsebastian88@> > > > > > Re: AGE OF DEATH IN NADI > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, 20 August, 2008, 8:06 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear shortcut (ha ha ha), > > > > > first of all dont call me sir, cause i am not 40 > > > > or > > > > > 50 > > > > > year old. how do you know nadi doesnt use > > > > divisional > > > > > chart, naadi > > > > > amsas, nakshaktra things etc. in this cases you > > > > need > > > > > to think > > > > > logically. before talking about logic you need to > > > > > know one thing. nadi > > > > > is something mysterious not yet decoded > > > > properly.yet > > > > > lot of research > > > > > has to be done on this. people who wrote this nadi > > > > > leaves have not > > > > > revealed us how they did that. only possible way > > > > is > > > > > vedic astrology. > > > > > thats why both gopalakrishnan and rayudu say lot > > > > of > > > > > research has to be > > > > > done. they too tell nadi astrology is none other > > > > > than vedic astrology. > > > > > both have experienced nadi astrology. nadi > > > > astrology > > > > > is the only > > > > > inspiration for them to study vedic astrology. > > > > > rayudu is a student of > > > > > b.v.raman another great astrologer. i even seen > > > > > rayudu explaining > > > > > about nadi amsas in nadi astrology in his > > > > > website.quite interesting. > > > > > vedic astrology is mother of all other astrology > > > > > including nadi > > > > > astrology. since they have not used divi > > > > chart,nadi > > > > > amsas etc in that > > > > > nadi leaf it does not mean that it is not vedic > > > > > astrology. ok can you > > > > > show me the materialistic evidence that vedic > > > > > astrology is not nadi > > > > > astrology. i too cannot prove vedic astrology is > > > > > nadi astrology. only > > > > > thing we have to do here is to find what are the > > > > > possibilities. > > > > > i am still skeptical about great sages actually > > > > > wrote this nadi > > > > > astrology prediction. i strongly believe this is > > > > > handy work of > > > > > ordinary ancient vedic astrologers. because space > > > > > limitations they may > > > > > have not written those div charts in those nadi > > > > > leaf. since there are > > > > > many leaves to be written for many people, they > > > > have > > > > > written only > > > > > those predictions in that nadi leaves. > > > > > who said you nadi astrology actually not predict > > > > > position of > > > > > lagna in our chart. for me they predicted it > > > > > perfect. (awesomely spot > > > > > on ) in nadi leaves usually it(lagna) is denoted > > > > as > > > > > " ooyir " or " aavi " > > > > > (in tamil). if you see in agastya nadi exact > > > > > positiomn of lagna is > > > > > accurately given. i got my reading in agastya nadi > > > > > in kanchipuram by > > > > > d.balasubramanium. i dont know about siva nadi. > > > > why > > > > > siva nadi dont > > > > > give lagna that i dont know. but agastya nadi did > > > > it > > > > > accurately. this > > > > > is too long remaining later. last but not least if > > > > > you have time goto > > > > > agastya nadi in kanchipuram. nothing in the world > > > > > has amazed me as > > > > > nadi astrology. > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > " shortcut " > > > > > <shortcutfromdos@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Sebastian sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > I was seeing your reply about naadi and vedic > > > > > astrology. Many of us > > > > > > think that since naadi astrology uses 9 planet > > > > and > > > > > combination so it > > > > > > is vedic astrology. Naadi uses the 9 planets and > > > > > combination only to > > > > > > suggest that these effect will be felt strongly > > > > or > > > > > weak manner. > > > > > > Secondly it uses them to decide the time > > > > periods. > > > > > Apart from that it > > > > > > uses them to reflect birth positions and transit > > > > > positions. Apart from > > > > > > these there are many areas where naadi is > > > > > different from vedic > > > > > > astrology. It does not use divisional charts , > > > > > does not use naadi > > > > > > amsas, even does not give lagna or chandra > > > > > degrees. Gopalkrishna is > > > > > > nakshatra based and naadi does not give > > > > > description of nakshatra > > > > > > except birth nakshatra. I would want to know > > > > your > > > > > views what is the > > > > > > similarity that you see with respect to vedic > > > > > astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > If you are actualy interested to go deeper I > > > > would > > > > > also suggest that > > > > > > if you get time to get some siva nadi readings > > > > > done, it will be more > > > > > > clear to you. It will also provide more clarity > > > > on > > > > > free will and > > > > > > destiny. Also if you pose this question in the > > > > > prashna naadi the > > > > > > answers might change your perspective towards > > > > the > > > > > subject. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Shortcut > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > " jsebastian88 " > > > > > > <jsebastian88@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear sarvan sekger, > > > > > > > have you ever know about chandra kala nadi, > > > > deva > > > > > > > keralam, bhrighu samhitha,sukar nadi, etc > > > > .there > > > > > are various astrology > > > > > > > books wriiten based on nadi astrology > > > > > techniques. have you ever read > > > > > > > research articles by rayudu. have you ever > > > > read > > > > > gopalakrishna. K.N 's > > > > > > > ground breaking predictive techniques of nadi > > > > > astrology. first read it > > > > > > > and then comment on whether nadi is different > > > > > from vedic. i see there > > > > > > > is no differece between nadi astrology and > > > > vedic > > > > > astrology.both are > > > > > > > same. yes you can predict exact happening > > > > > through vedic astrology. but > > > > > > > many of things hidden in vedic astrology is > > > > not > > > > > known to the todays > > > > > > > world. please read the book writen by > > > > > gopalakrishnan on nadi techniqe. > > > > > > > gopalakrishnan is the only person so far seen > > > > > predicting exact detail > > > > > > > thru vedic astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i did not say everybody dies only because of > > > > > third round of sade > > > > > > > sathi. there are many other factors too. > > > > exampla > > > > > bad placement of > > > > > > > rahu, bad yogas causing death in early age. if > > > > > sani is stronge you > > > > > > > will have long life. apart from this people > > > > > usually die between this 7 > > > > > > > 1/2 years of saturn . have you read > > > > varahamirahs > > > > > confession on > > > > > > > longivity please read it first. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, sebastian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > Sarvan > > > > > Shekhar > > > > > > > <mr_saravana@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear sebastian, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                      > > > > > I think you are a good > > > > > > > reader of astrology books thats why you are > > > > > explaining with sade sani > > > > > > > and death what if every one should die only in > > > > > the third round of sade > > > > > > > sani means why child death, middle age death > > > > > happens, one more thing > > > > > > > sebastian Astrology is a type of calculation > > > > it > > > > > wont > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. 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Guest guest Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 - videshmukhji-- you are confusing your self. i think you need to know somebasic thing about nadi astrolgy. usually nadi astrologer wont give your very detailed birth chart like navamsa, dasamsa trisamsa and all. all they give you is exact planetary postions, lagna position in your chart your life prediction. your tamil date of birth , tamil month and tamil year only not other than that. for me everything came exactly right . after seeing my nadi i went to home in chennai i checked all details given in nadi all the things were 100% includung those lagna position. sivasami in his website claims that in siva nadi they cant give lagna position .but got my lagna 100% right in agastya nadi. though i dont know advanced astrology i know some astrology and some IQ to prove nadi birth chart is exactly same as that of nadi. usually lagna is called ooyir or aavi in nadi prediction. let me say you one thing 1) without knowing the DOB and birth time no one can predict or cast your birth chart and lagna in your chart. but i gave only thumb print . with that thing how did they able to give all the details. 2) in this case i already have birth chart in my home. on one fine day i went to strange nadi astrologer house which is 72 km from my home in chennai.i gave my thumb print and i got my birth details and prediction from a nadi people. then i went home cross checked it with my own birth chart in my home. the chart details ,lagna position ,planetary position, tamil year month and day all are right. and exactly as told in nadi. if you still have doubt ask dhinakar of this forum he too went to the same astrologer. i dont know what is there to confuse.i am scorpio lagna . they predicted it right -- In , vbdeshmukh <deshmukhv wrote: > > Dear Sebastian, > You raised high hopes when you said you got correct > Lagna amsha from Naadi and hence I requested you to > give me the details of your source which helped you in > comparing / verifying the Lagna Amsha.In short, on > what basis you found that the lagna degrees were > correct ? When you got your birth chart with planetary > positions from the Naadi Reader, how did you infer > that the chart was correct for the time, date and > place of birth ? Probably, you already had your chart > with which you compared Naadi Chart or you got it > checked with some astrolger who confirmed it as > correct.Would you therefore kindly confirm the factual > position ? If you are an astrologer or know astrology > I am sure you can guess as to what I am hinting > at.Shri Rayudu's website simply does not come into > picture unless he has confirmed your naadi chart as > correct in his website as an example. In that case I > can directly approach him and get the details.Hope, no > hard feelings. > Looking forward to hearing from you, > Sinceely, > VBD > --- Dhinakar Rajaram <dhinakarrajaram > wrote: > > > > > Even for me, my father and my sister the chart > > details were 100% correct. Our readings were seen > > by D. balasubramaniam. > > > > Dhinakar > > > > > > > > jsebastian88 > > Sun, 24 Aug 2008 08:22:37 +0000 > > Fwd: Re: Re: AGE OF DEATH > > IN NADI > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my reply is --- see the reply of mine to > > guy called shortcut. and > > > > refer rayudu astrology website for your answers. > > > > > > > > yes my lagna was predicted accurately in agastya > > nadi in > > > > kanchipuram. i gave only my thumb print. i dont know > > others not > > > > believing it. i chanllenge any one to agastya nadi > > in kanchipuram . > > > > they will give you the exact details of you birth > > chart. they dont ask > > > > your date of birth , but still they will give your > > lagna and etc. > > > > > > > > and read those article given by prakasen senthil . > > it was awesome > > > > > > > > , vbdeshmukh > > <deshmukhv@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sebastian, > > > > > I am eagerly awaiting the favour of your > > compliance > > > > > with my request to enlighten me about the > > > > > source/panchang/ ephemeris you referred to > > > > > verify/compare your Lagna Amsha/Asc. Degree as > > given > > > > > in your Naadi. > > > > > Regds, > > > > > VBD > > > > > --- vbdeshmukh <deshmukhv@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vbdeshmukh <deshmukhv@> > > > > > > Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:07:28 +0100 (BST) > > > > > > Re: Re: AGE OF DEATH > > IN > > > > > > NADI > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sebastian, > > > > > > I have been a follower of Naadi/Samhita > > predictive > > > > > > systems for more than twenty years.In fact I > > became > > > > > > very curious about Astrology after my brush with > > > > > > Naadi/ Samhita predictions which greatly > > influenced > > > > > > me > > > > > > to study astrology. > > > > > > I am therefore very happy to know that you got > > > > > > correct > > > > > > lagna ansha - Ascendant degrees from your Naadi > > > > > > reading. I would be indeed obliged if you would > > be > > > > > > so > > > > > > good as to kindly let me know how and which > > source > > > > > > you > > > > > > used to verify/ compare the accuracy of the > > Lagna > > > > > > Amsha given in the Naadi. > > > > > > I do not think Naadi/ samhita predictions are > > based > > > > > > on > > > > > > Astrology for several reasons too numerous to > > > > > > discuss > > > > > > in this post, now. We however must and should go > > > > > > into > > > > > > all aspects of Naadi predictions if they are > > based > > > > > > on > > > > > > planetary/ Nakshatra longitudes and if so what > > > > > > connection they have any with Vedic Astrology. > > > > > > Regds > > > > > > VBD > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Prakansen Senthil <prakansen@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear sebastian and allgroup members(tamil), > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > Pls visit following link reg nadi. > > > > > > > It is very useful. > > > > > > > Regds > > > > > > > senthil > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > http://visvacomplex.com/nadi_jothidam1.html > > > > > > > http://visvacomplex.com/nadi_jothidam2.html > > > > > > > http://visvacomplex.com/nadi_jothidam3.html > > > > > > > http://visvacomplex.com/nadi_jothidam4.html > > > > > > > http://visvacomplex.com/nadi_jothidam5.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 20/8/08, jsebastian88 > > > > > > > <jsebastian88@> wrote: > > > === message truncated === > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. 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Guest guest Posted August 26, 2008 Report Share Posted August 26, 2008 Hi,Dear all , please help me to get the exact address of Mr d.balasubramanium.agastya nadi kanchipuram . with regards Binesh--- On Tue, 26/8/08, jsebastian88 <jsebastian88 wrote: jsebastian88 <jsebastian88 Re: AGE OF DEATH IN NADI Date: Tuesday, 26 August, 2008, 12:03 AM i dont know why others not beleiving. i got my exact lagna position,all other exact details in agastya nadi kanchipuram byd.balasubramanium. i gave only my thumb print. i revealed my birthdate to any one. and i also never revealed my birth time which is moreimportant in predicting the lagna position. they got my lagna positioncorrect. how it is possible. really amazing. i dont know how they did it., Dhinakar Rajaram<dhinakarrajaram@ ...> wrote:>> > Even for me, my father and my sister the chart details were 100%correct. Our readings were seen by D. balasubramaniam.> > Dhinakar> > > > jsebastian88@ ....> Sun, 24 Aug 2008 08:22:37 +0000> Fwd: Re: Re: AGE OF DEATH IN NADI> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my reply is --- see the reply of mine to guy calledshortcut. and> > refer rayudu astrology website for your answers.> > > > yes my lagna was predicted accurately in agastya nadi in> > kanchipuram. i gave only my thumb print. i dont know others not> > believing it. i chanllenge any one to agastya nadi in kanchipuram .> > they will give you the exact details of you birth chart. they dont ask> > your date of birth , but still they will give your lagna and etc.> > > > and read those article given by prakasen senthil . it was awesome> > > > , vbdeshmukh <deshmukhv@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sebastian,> > > I am eagerly awaiting the favour of your compliance> > > with my request to enlighten me about the> > > source/panchang/ ephemeris you referred to> > > verify/compare your Lagna Amsha/Asc. Degree as given> > > in your Naadi.> > > Regds,> > > VBD> > > --- vbdeshmukh <deshmukhv@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > vbdeshmukh <deshmukhv@>> > > > Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:07:28 +0100 (BST)> > > > Re: Re: AGE OF DEATH IN> > > > NADI> > > > > > > > Dear Sebastian,> > > > I have been a follower of Naadi/Samhita predictive> > > > systems for more than twenty years.In fact I became> > > > very curious about Astrology after my brush with> > > > Naadi/ Samhita predictions which greatly influenced> > > > me> > > > to study astrology.> > > > I am therefore very happy to know that you got> > > > correct> > > > lagna ansha - Ascendant degrees from your Naadi> > > > reading. I would be indeed obliged if you would be> > > > so> > > > good as to kindly let me know how and which source> > > > you> > > > used to verify/ compare the accuracy of the Lagna> > > > Amsha given in the Naadi.> > > > I do not think Naadi/ samhita predictions are based> > > > on> > > > Astrology for several reasons too numerous to> > > > discuss> > > > in this post, now. We however must and should go> > > > into> > > > all aspects of Naadi predictions if they are based> > > > on> > > > planetary/ Nakshatra longitudes and if so what> > > > connection they have any with Vedic Astrology.> > > > Regds> > > > VBD> > > > > > > > --- Prakansen Senthil <prakansen@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > Dear sebastian and allgroup members(tamil) ,> > > > >  > > > > > Pls visit following link reg nadi.> > > > > It is very useful.> > > > > Regds> > > > > senthil> > > > >  > > > > > http://visvacomplex .com/nadi_ jothidam1. html> > > > > http://visvacomplex .com/nadi_ jothidam2. html> > > > > http://visvacomplex .com/nadi_ jothidam3. html> > > > > http://visvacomplex .com/nadi_ jothidam4. html> > > > > http://visvacomplex .com/nadi_ jothidam5. html> > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 20/8/08, jsebastian88> > > > > <jsebastian88@ > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > jsebastian88 <jsebastian88@ >> > > > > Re: AGE OF DEATH IN NADI> > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, 20 August, 2008, 8:06 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear shortcut (ha ha ha),> > > > > first of all dont call me sir, cause i am not 40> > > > or> > > > > 50> > > > > year old. how do you know nadi doesnt use> > > > divisional> > > > > chart, naadi> > > > > amsas, nakshaktra things etc. in this cases you> > > > need> > > > > to think> > > > > logically. before talking about logic you need to> > > > > know one thing. nadi> > > > > is something mysterious not yet decoded> > > > properly.yet> > > > > lot of research> > > > > has to be done on this. people who wrote this nadi> > > > > leaves have not> > > > > revealed us how they did that. only possible way> > > > is> > > > > vedic astrology.> > > > > thats why both gopalakrishnan and rayudu say lot> > > > of> > > > > research has to be> > > > > done. they too tell nadi astrology is none other> > > > > than vedic astrology.> > > > > both have experienced nadi astrology. nadi> > > > astrology> > > > > is the only> > > > > inspiration for them to study vedic astrology.> > > > > rayudu is a student of> > > > > b.v.raman another great astrologer. i even seen> > > > > rayudu explaining> > > > > about nadi amsas in nadi astrology in his> > > > > website.quite interesting.> > > > > vedic astrology is mother of all other astrology> > > > > including nadi> > > > > astrology. since they have not used divi> > > > chart,nadi> > > > > amsas etc in that> > > > > nadi leaf it does not mean that it is not vedic> > > > > astrology. ok can you> > > > > show me the materialistic evidence that vedic> > > > > astrology is not nadi> > > > > astrology. i too cannot prove vedic astrology is> > > > > nadi astrology. only> > > > > thing we have to do here is to find what are the> > > > > possibilities. > > > > > i am still skeptical about great sages actually> > > > > wrote this nadi> > > > > astrology prediction. i strongly believe this is> > > > > handy work of> > > > > ordinary ancient vedic astrologers. because space> > > > > limitations they may> > > > > have not written those div charts in those nadi> > > > > leaf. since there are> > > > > many leaves to be written for many people, they> > > > have> > > > > written only> > > > > those predictions in that nadi leaves.> > > > > who said you nadi astrology actually not predict> > > > > position of> > > > > lagna in our chart. for me they predicted it> > > > > perfect. (awesomely spot> > > > > on ) in nadi leaves usually it(lagna) is denoted> > > > as> > > > > "ooyir" or "aavi"> > > > > (in tamil). if you see in agastya nadi exact> > > > > positiomn of lagna is> > > > > accurately given. i got my reading in agastya nadi> > > > > in kanchipuram by> > > > > d.balasubramanium. i dont know about siva nadi.> > > > why> > > > > siva nadi dont> > > > > give lagna that i dont know. but agastya nadi did> > > > it> > > > > accurately. this> > > > > is too long remaining later. last but not least if> > > > > you have time goto> > > > > agastya nadi in kanchipuram. nothing in the world> > > > > has amazed me as> > > > > nadi astrology. > > > > > > > > > > ,> > > > "shortcut"> > > > > <shortcutfromdos@ ...> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Hi Sebastian sir,> > > > > > > > > > > > I was seeing your reply about naadi and vedic> > > > > astrology. Many of us> > > > > > think that since naadi astrology uses 9 planet> > > > and> > > > > combination so it> > > > > > is vedic astrology. Naadi uses the 9 planets and> > > > > combination only to> > > > > > suggest that these effect will be felt strongly> > > > or> > > > > weak manner.> > > > > > Secondly it uses them to decide the time> > > > periods.> > > > > Apart from that it> > > > > > uses them to reflect birth positions and transit> > > > > positions. Apart from> > > > > > these there are many areas where naadi is> > > > > different from vedic> > > > > > astrology. It does not use divisional charts ,> > > > > does not use naadi> > > > > > amsas, even does not give lagna or chandra> > > > > degrees. Gopalkrishna is> > > > > > nakshatra based and naadi does not give> > > > > description of nakshatra> > > > > > except birth nakshatra. I would want to know> > > > your> > > > > views what is the> > > > > > similarity that you see with respect to vedic> > > > > astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > If you are actualy interested to go deeper I> > > > would> > > > > also suggest that> > > > > > if you get time to get some siva nadi readings> > > > > done, it will be more> > > > > > clear to you. It will also provide more clarity> > > > on> > > > > free will and> > > > > > destiny. Also if you pose this question in the> > > > > prashna naadi the> > > > > > answers might change your perspective towards> > > > the> > > > > subject. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > Shortcut> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ,> > > > > "jsebastian88"> > > > > > <jsebastian88@ > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > dear sarvan sekger,> > > > > > > have you ever know about chandra kala nadi,> > > > deva> > > > > > > keralam, bhrighu samhitha,sukar nadi, etc> > > > .there> > > > > are various astrology> > > > > > > books wriiten based on nadi astrology> > > > > techniques. have you ever read> > > > > > > research articles by rayudu. have you ever> > > > read> > > > > gopalakrishna. K.N 's> > > > > > > ground breaking predictive techniques of nadi> > > > > astrology. first read it> > > > > > > and then comment on whether nadi is different> > > > > from vedic. i see there> > > > > > > is no differece between nadi astrology and> > > > vedic> > > > > astrology.both are> > > > > > > same. yes you can predict exact happening> > > > > through vedic astrology. but> > > > > > > many of things hidden in vedic astrology is> > > > not> > > > > known to the todays> > > > > > > world. please read the book writen by> > > > > gopalakrishnan on nadi techniqe.> > > > > > > gopalakrishnan is the only person so far seen> > > > > predicting exact detail> > > > > > > thru vedic astrology.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > i did not say everybody dies only because of> > > > > third round of sade> > > > > > > sathi. there are many other factors too.> > > > exampla> > > > > bad placement of> > > > > > > rahu, bad yogas causing death in early age. if> > > > > sani is stronge you> > > > > > > will have long life. apart from this people> > > > > usually die between this 7> > > > > > > 1/2 years of saturn . have you read> > > > varahamirahs> > > > > confession on> > > > > > > longivity please read it first.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, sebastian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ,> > > > Sarvan> > > > > Shekhar> > > > > > > <mr_saravana@ > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear sebastian,> > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >                 Â    > > > > > I think you are a good> > > > > > > reader of astrology books thats why you are> > > > > explaining with sade sani> > > > > > > and death what if every one should die only in> > > > > the third round of sade> > > > > > > sani means why child death, middle age death> > > > > happens, one more thing> > > > > > > sebastian Astrology is a type of calculation> > > > it> > > > > wont > > > > === message truncated ===> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. 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Guest guest Posted August 26, 2008 Report Share Posted August 26, 2008 Reproduced from Database section of this forum: This address was loaded by me for use of members who may seek readings on their own and free will.Sri Agatiyar Nadi Jothida Nilayam Sri Agathiyar Naadi Thiru. D. Balasubramaniyam 189,Periyar Nagar, Chengulput Road Near Pachaiappa College for Men, Little Congivaram Pincode: 631501. 0091 44 2726 9283 0091 44 6727 1123 Mr. Selvam the centre is 1.5 Km from Varadharaja Temple and 250 Mtrs from college. Cost: 250 for General and 150 for other kandhams. Dasabukti is 500 per dasa. The centre is closed on every Tuesday. Fix appointments atleast 15 days earlier and be there by 8am. 1 - 8 of 8 First | < Previous | Next > | Last Search This Table: Add Record | Printable Report | Import Records | Export TDhinakar Rajaram Iyer , binesh prakash <bineshpadath wrote:>> Hi,Dear all ,>  >  > please help me to get the exact address of Mr d.balasubramanium.agastya nadi kanchipuram .>  >  > with regards Binesh> > > --- On Tue, 26/8/08, jsebastian88 jsebastian88 wrote:> > jsebastian88 jsebastian88 Re: AGE OF DEATH IN NADI> > Tuesday, 26 August, 2008, 12:03 AM> > > > > > > i dont know why others not beleiving. i got my exact lagna position,> all other exact details in agastya nadi kanchipuram by> d.balasubramanium. i gave only my thumb print. i revealed my birth> date to any one. and i also never revealed my birth time which is more> important in predicting the lagna position. they got my lagna position> correct. how it is possible. really amazing. i dont know how they did it.> > , Dhinakar Rajaram> <dhinakarrajaram@ ...> wrote:> >> > > > Even for me, my father and my sister the chart details were 100%> correct. Our readings were seen by D. balasubramaniam.> > > > Dhinakar> > > > > > > > jsebastian88@ ...> > Sun, 24 Aug 2008 08:22:37 +0000> > Fwd: Re: Re: AGE OF DEATH IN NADI> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my reply is --- see the reply of mine to guy called> shortcut. and> > > > refer rayudu astrology website for your answers.> > > > > > > > yes my lagna was predicted accurately in agastya nadi in> > > > kanchipuram. i gave only my thumb print. i dont know others not> > > > believing it. i chanllenge any one to agastya nadi in kanchipuram .> > > > they will give you the exact details of you birth chart. they dont ask> > > > your date of birth , but still they will give your lagna and etc.> > > > > > > > and read those article given by prakasen senthil . it was awesome> > > > > > > > , vbdeshmukh <deshmukhv@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Sebastian,> > > > > I am eagerly awaiting the favour of your compliance> > > > > with my request to enlighten me about the> > > > > source/panchang/ ephemeris you referred to> > > > > verify/compare your Lagna Amsha/Asc. Degree as given> > > > > in your Naadi.> > > > > Regds,> > > > > VBD> > > > > --- vbdeshmukh <deshmukhv@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vbdeshmukh <deshmukhv@>> > > > > > Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:07:28 +0100 (BST)> > > > > > Re: Re: AGE OF DEATH IN> > > > > > NADI> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sebastian,> > > > > > I have been a follower of Naadi/Samhita predictive> > > > > > systems for more than twenty years.In fact I became> > > > > > very curious about Astrology after my brush with> > > > > > Naadi/ Samhita predictions which greatly influenced> > > > > > me> > > > > > to study astrology.> > > > > > I am therefore very happy to know that you got> > > > > > correct> > > > > > lagna ansha - Ascendant degrees from your Naadi> > > > > > reading. I would be indeed obliged if you would be> > > > > > so> > > > > > good as to kindly let me know how and which source> > > > > > you> > > > > > used to verify/ compare the accuracy of the Lagna> > > > > > Amsha given in the Naadi.> > > > > > I do not think Naadi/ samhita predictions are based> > > > > > on> > > > > > Astrology for several reasons too numerous to> > > > > > discuss> > > > > > in this post, now. We however must and should go> > > > > > into> > > > > > all aspects of Naadi predictions if they are based> > > > > > on> > > > > > planetary/ Nakshatra longitudes and if so what> > > > > > connection they have any with Vedic Astrology.> > > > > > Regds> > > > > > VBD> > > > > > > > > > > > --- Prakansen Senthil <prakansen@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear sebastian and allgroup members(tamil) ,> > > > > > >  > > > > > > > Pls visit following link reg nadi.> > > > > > > It is very useful.> > > > > > > Regds> > > > > > > senthil> > > > > > >  > > > > > > > http://visvacomplex .com/nadi_ jothidam1. html> > > > > > > http://visvacomplex .com/nadi_ jothidam2. html> > > > > > > http://visvacomplex .com/nadi_ jothidam3. html> > > > > > > http://visvacomplex .com/nadi_ jothidam4. html> > > > > > > http://visvacomplex .com/nadi_ jothidam5. html> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 20/8/08, jsebastian88> > > > > > > <jsebastian88@ > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > jsebastian88 <jsebastian88@ >> > > > > > > Re: AGE OF DEATH IN NADI> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, 20 August, 2008, 8:06 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear shortcut (ha ha ha),> > > > > > > first of all dont call me sir, cause i am not 40> > > > > > or> > > > > > > 50> > > > > > > year old. how do you know nadi doesnt use> > > > > > divisional> > > > > > > chart, naadi> > > > > > > amsas, nakshaktra things etc. in this cases you> > > > > > need> > > > > > > to think> > > > > > > logically. before talking about logic you need to> > > > > > > know one thing. nadi> > > > > > > is something mysterious not yet decoded> > > > > > properly.yet> > > > > > > lot of research> > > > > > > has to be done on this. people who wrote this nadi> > > > > > > leaves have not> > > > > > > revealed us how they did that. only possible way> > > > > > is> > > > > > > vedic astrology.> > > > > > > thats why both gopalakrishnan and rayudu say lot> > > > > > of> > > > > > > research has to be> > > > > > > done. they too tell nadi astrology is none other> > > > > > > than vedic astrology.> > > > > > > both have experienced nadi astrology. nadi> > > > > > astrology> > > > > > > is the only> > > > > > > inspiration for them to study vedic astrology.> > > > > > > rayudu is a student of> > > > > > > b.v.raman another great astrologer. i even seen> > > > > > > rayudu explaining> > > > > > > about nadi amsas in nadi astrology in his> > > > > > > website.quite interesting.> > > > > > > vedic astrology is mother of all other astrology> > > > > > > including nadi> > > > > > > astrology. since they have not used divi> > > > > > chart,nadi> > > > > > > amsas etc in that> > > > > > > nadi leaf it does not mean that it is not vedic> > > > > > > astrology. ok can you> > > > > > > show me the materialistic evidence that vedic> > > > > > > astrology is not nadi> > > > > > > astrology. i too cannot prove vedic astrology is> > > > > > > nadi astrology. only> > > > > > > thing we have to do here is to find what are the> > > > > > > possibilities. > > > > > > > i am still skeptical about great sages actually> > > > > > > wrote this nadi> > > > > > > astrology prediction. i strongly believe this is> > > > > > > handy work of> > > > > > > ordinary ancient vedic astrologers. because space> > > > > > > limitations they may> > > > > > > have not written those div charts in those nadi> > > > > > > leaf. since there are> > > > > > > many leaves to be written for many people, they> > > > > > have> > > > > > > written only> > > > > > > those predictions in that nadi leaves.> > > > > > > who said you nadi astrology actually not predict> > > > > > > position of> > > > > > > lagna in our chart. for me they predicted it> > > > > > > perfect. (awesomely spot> > > > > > > on ) in nadi leaves usually it(lagna) is denoted> > > > > > as> > > > > > > "ooyir" or "aavi"> > > > > > > (in tamil). if you see in agastya nadi exact> > > > > > > positiomn of lagna is> > > > > > > accurately given. i got my reading in agastya nadi> > > > > > > in kanchipuram by> > > > > > > d.balasubramanium. i dont know about siva nadi.> > > > > > why> > > > > > > siva nadi dont> > > > > > > give lagna that i dont know. but agastya nadi did> > > > > > it> > > > > > > accurately. this> > > > > > > is too long remaining later. last but not least if> > > > > > > you have time goto> > > > > > > agastya nadi in kanchipuram. nothing in the world> > > > > > > has amazed me as> > > > > > > nadi astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ,> > > > > > "shortcut"> > > > > > > <shortcutfromdos@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Hi Sebastian sir,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was seeing your reply about naadi and vedic> > > > > > > astrology. Many of us> > > > > > > > think that since naadi astrology uses 9 planet> > > > > > and> > > > > > > combination so it> > > > > > > > is vedic astrology. Naadi uses the 9 planets and> > > > > > > combination only to> > > > > > > > suggest that these effect will be felt strongly> > > > > > or> > > > > > > weak manner.> > > > > > > > Secondly it uses them to decide the time> > > > > > periods.> > > > > > > Apart from that it> > > > > > > > uses them to reflect birth positions and transit> > > > > > > positions. Apart from> > > > > > > > these there are many areas where naadi is> > > > > > > different from vedic> > > > > > > > astrology. It does not use divisional charts ,> > > > > > > does not use naadi> > > > > > > > amsas, even does not give lagna or chandra> > > > > > > degrees. Gopalkrishna is> > > > > > > > nakshatra based and naadi does not give> > > > > > > description of nakshatra> > > > > > > > except birth nakshatra. I would want to know> > > > > > your> > > > > > > views what is the> > > > > > > > similarity that you see with respect to vedic> > > > > > > astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you are actualy interested to go deeper I> > > > > > would> > > > > > > also suggest that> > > > > > > > if you get time to get some siva nadi readings> > > > > > > done, it will be more> > > > > > > > clear to you. It will also provide more clarity> > > > > > on> > > > > > > free will and> > > > > > > > destiny. Also if you pose this question in the> > > > > > > prashna naadi the> > > > > > > > answers might change your perspective towards> > > > > > the> > > > > > > subject. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > Shortcut> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ,> > > > > > > "jsebastian88"> > > > > > > > <jsebastian88@ > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > dear sarvan sekger,> > > > > > > > > have you ever know about chandra kala nadi,> > > > > > deva> > > > > > > > > keralam, bhrighu samhitha,sukar nadi, etc> > > > > > .there> > > > > > > are various astrology> > > > > > > > > books wriiten based on nadi astrology> > > > > > > techniques. have you ever read> > > > > > > > > research articles by rayudu. have you ever> > > > > > read> > > > > > > gopalakrishna. K.N 's> > > > > > > > > ground breaking predictive techniques of nadi> > > > > > > astrology. first read it> > > > > > > > > and then comment on whether nadi is different> > > > > > > from vedic. i see there> > > > > > > > > is no differece between nadi astrology and> > > > > > vedic> > > > > > > astrology.both are> > > > > > > > > same. yes you can predict exact happening> > > > > > > through vedic astrology. but> > > > > > > > > many of things hidden in vedic astrology is> > > > > > not> > > > > > > known to the todays> > > > > > > > > world. please read the book writen by> > > > > > > gopalakrishnan on nadi techniqe.> > > > > > > > > gopalakrishnan is the only person so far seen> > > > > > > predicting exact detail> > > > > > > > > thru vedic astrology.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i did not say everybody dies only because of> > > > > > > third round of sade> > > > > > > > > sathi. there are many other factors too.> > > > > > exampla> > > > > > > bad placement of> > > > > > > > > rahu, bad yogas causing death in early age. if> > > > > > > sani is stronge you> > > > > > > > > will have long life. apart from this people> > > > > > > usually die between this 7> > > > > > > > > 1/2 years of saturn . have you read> > > > > > varahamirahs> > > > > > > confession on> > > > > > > > > longivity please read it first.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, sebastian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ,> > > > > > Sarvan> > > > > > > Shekhar> > > > > > > > > <mr_saravana@ > wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear sebastian,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >                 ÂÂ>     > > > > > > > I think you are a good> > > > > > > > > reader of astrology books thats why you are> > > > > > > explaining with sade sani> > > > > > > > > and death what if every one should die only in> > > > > > > the third round of sade> > > > > > > > > sani means why child death, middle age death> > > > > > > happens, one more thing> > > > > > > > > sebastian Astrology is a type of calculation> > > > > > it> > > > > > > wont > > > > > > === message truncated ===> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. 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Guest guest Posted August 27, 2008 Report Share Posted August 27, 2008 My dear Sebastian, Thank you so much for your prompt response and for clarifying the confusion. You are well aware that there are many styles/ systems of casing natal charts which are broadly termed as Sayana and Nirayana. So far as Sayana/ Tropical system is concerned there will not be any difference in the planetary longitudes and lagna amshas and system recommended by our poorvacharyas and dharmacharyas including our Hon. Shankaracharya as it accurately conformed to our Dharmashastras, Shrutis and Smrutis besides several other holy tracts,siddhantas etc for calculating Muhurtas,days of fasts and festivals and carrying out religious rights and rituals as also social and community functions at proper times.It may interest you to know that this Sayana system conforms to modern astronomy too. Even the Calendar Reforms Committee of Govt. of India set up underthe Chairmanship of Dr. Meghnath Saha in 1955 has recommended Sayana/ Tropical system for Panchang/Calendar making.However, nearly all the Panchangs published in India are based on Nirayan System using different Ayanamsha calculations creating chaotic condition as lagna amshas and planetary longitudes greatly differ from each other . But the funniest part is that the astrologers who follow different panchangs for making birth charts claim 100 per cent accuracy in their predictions ! Since Naadi predictions -at least about the past events are amazingly correct, I am interested to know and curious to find out the basis of chart making system in Naadi Shastra.Since you confirm that the Lagna Amshas given in Naadi are correct as they agree with Lagna amshas given in your birth-chart, I am very eager to know the chart making system employed in the casting your birth-chart ie whether it is Sayana System or the Nirayan system. If it is Sayana system,there is very little room for variation in Lagna amshas since this system does not use any Ayanamsha calculation for casting chart. But if it is Nirayan system based on differing ayanamshas of Raman, Lahiri, Chitra, KP,Fagan or any other ayanamshas adopted by your astrolger in the making of your chart then I would be indeed grateful to you to enlighten me in this regard.Pl.undestand that I do not doubt you Or the Naadi system but my main interest is to know how our Great Rishis did the astronomical calculations and cast the charts if at all or it is later day additions by some Naadi readers. Thanks for your cooperation. Regds. VBD --- jsebastian88 <jsebastian88 wrote: > - > videshmukhji-- you are confusing your self. i think > you need to know > somebasic thing about nadi astrolgy. usually nadi > astrologer wont give > your very detailed birth chart like navamsa, dasamsa > trisamsa and all. > all they give you is exact planetary postions, lagna > position in your > chart your life prediction. your tamil date of birth > , tamil month and > tamil year only not other than that. for me > everything came exactly > right . after seeing my nadi i went to home in > chennai i checked all > details given in nadi all the things were 100% > includung those lagna > position. sivasami in his website claims that in > siva nadi they cant > give lagna position .but got my lagna 100% right in > agastya nadi. > though i dont know advanced astrology i know some > astrology and some > IQ to prove nadi birth chart is exactly same as that > of nadi. > > usually lagna is called ooyir or aavi in nadi > prediction. > > let me say you one thing 1) without knowing the DOB > and birth time no > one can predict or cast your birth chart and lagna > in your chart. but > i gave only thumb print . with that thing how did > they able to give > all the details. > > 2) in this case i already have birth chart in my > home. on one fine day > i went to strange nadi astrologer house which is 72 > km from my home > in chennai.i gave my thumb print and i got my birth > details and > prediction from a nadi people. then i went home > cross checked it with > my own birth chart in my home. the chart details > ,lagna position > ,planetary position, tamil year month and day all > are right. and > exactly as told in nadi. > > > if you still have doubt ask dhinakar of this forum > he too went to the > same astrologer. > > i dont know what is there to confuse.i am scorpio > lagna . they > predicted it right > > > > -- In , vbdeshmukh > <deshmukhv wrote: > > > > Dear Sebastian, > > You raised high hopes when you said you got > correct > > Lagna amsha from Naadi and hence I requested you > to > > give me the details of your source which helped > you in > > comparing / verifying the Lagna Amsha.In short, on > > what basis you found that the lagna degrees were > > correct ? When you got your birth chart with > planetary > > positions from the Naadi Reader, how did you infer > > that the chart was correct for the time, date and > > place of birth ? Probably, you already had your > chart > > with which you compared Naadi Chart or you got it > > checked with some astrolger who confirmed it as > > correct.Would you therefore kindly confirm the > factual > > position ? If you are an astrologer or know > astrology > > I am sure you can guess as to what I am hinting > > at.Shri Rayudu's website simply does not come into > > picture unless he has confirmed your naadi chart > as > > correct in his website as an example. In that case > I > > can directly approach him and get the > details.Hope, no > > hard feelings. > > Looking forward to hearing from you, > > Sinceely, > > VBD > > --- Dhinakar Rajaram <dhinakarrajaram > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Even for me, my father and my sister the chart > > > details were 100% correct. Our readings were > seen > > > by D. balasubramaniam. > > > > > > Dhinakar > > > > > > > > > > > > jsebastian88 > > > Sun, 24 Aug 2008 08:22:37 +0000 > > > Fwd: Re: Re: AGE OF > DEATH > > > IN NADI > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my reply is --- see the reply of > mine to > > > guy called shortcut. and > > > > > > refer rayudu astrology website for your answers. > > > > > > > > > > > > yes my lagna was predicted accurately in agastya > > > nadi in > > > > > > kanchipuram. i gave only my thumb print. i dont > know > > > others not > > > > > > believing it. i chanllenge any one to agastya > nadi > > > in kanchipuram . > > > > > > they will give you the exact details of you > birth > > > chart. they dont ask > > > > > > your date of birth , but still they will give > your > > > lagna and etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > and read those article given by prakasen senthil > . > > > it was awesome > > > > > > > > > > > > , > vbdeshmukh > > > <deshmukhv@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sebastian, > > > > > > > I am eagerly awaiting the favour of your > > > compliance > > > > > > > with my request to enlighten me about the > > > > > > > source/panchang/ ephemeris you referred to > > > > > > > verify/compare your Lagna Amsha/Asc. Degree as > > > given > > > > > > > in your Naadi. > > > > > > > Regds, > > > > > > > VBD > > > > > > > --- vbdeshmukh <deshmukhv@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2008 Report Share Posted August 27, 2008 You can get your queries cleared from a naadi reader. Kindly ask Mr. Selvan of Congivaram centre, he may help you. Dhinakar , vbdeshmukh <deshmukhv wrote: > > My dear Sebastian, > Thank you so much for your prompt response and for > clarifying the confusion. > You are well aware that there are many styles/ systems > of casing natal charts which are broadly termed as > Sayana and Nirayana. So far as Sayana/ Tropical > system is concerned there will not be any difference > in the planetary longitudes and lagna amshas and > system recommended by our poorvacharyas and > dharmacharyas including our Hon. Shankaracharya as it > accurately conformed to our Dharmashastras, Shrutis > and Smrutis besides several other holy > tracts,siddhantas etc for calculating Muhurtas,days > of fasts and festivals and carrying out religious > rights and rituals as also social and community > functions at proper times.It may interest you to know > that this Sayana system conforms to modern astronomy > too. Even the Calendar Reforms Committee of Govt. of > India set up underthe Chairmanship of Dr. Meghnath > Saha in 1955 has recommended Sayana/ Tropical system > for Panchang/Calendar making.However, nearly all the > Panchangs published in India are based on Nirayan > System using different Ayanamsha calculations creating > chaotic condition as lagna amshas and planetary > longitudes greatly differ from each other . But the > funniest part is that the astrologers who follow > different panchangs for making birth charts claim 100 > per cent accuracy in their predictions ! Since Naadi > predictions -at least about the past events are > amazingly correct, I am interested to know and > curious to find out the basis of chart making system > in Naadi Shastra.Since you confirm that the Lagna > Amshas given in Naadi are correct as they agree with > Lagna amshas given in your birth-chart, I am very > eager to know the chart making system employed in the > casting your birth-chart ie whether it is Sayana > System or the Nirayan system. If it is Sayana > system,there is very little room for variation in > Lagna amshas since this system does not use any > Ayanamsha calculation for casting chart. But if it is > Nirayan system based on differing ayanamshas of Raman, > Lahiri, Chitra, KP,Fagan or any other ayanamshas > adopted by your astrolger in the making of your chart > then I would be indeed grateful to you to enlighten me > in this regard.Pl.undestand that I do not doubt you Or > the Naadi system but my main interest is to know how > our Great Rishis did the astronomical calculations and > cast the charts if at all or it is later day additions > by some Naadi readers. > Thanks for your cooperation. > Regds. > VBD > --- jsebastian88 <jsebastian88 wrote: > > > - > > videshmukhji-- you are confusing your self. i think > > you need to know > > somebasic thing about nadi astrolgy. usually nadi > > astrologer wont give > > your very detailed birth chart like navamsa, dasamsa > > trisamsa and all. > > all they give you is exact planetary postions, lagna > > position in your > > chart your life prediction. your tamil date of birth > > , tamil month and > > tamil year only not other than that. for me > > everything came exactly > > right . after seeing my nadi i went to home in > > chennai i checked all > > details given in nadi all the things were 100% > > includung those lagna > > position. sivasami in his website claims that in > > siva nadi they cant > > give lagna position .but got my lagna 100% right in > > agastya nadi. > > though i dont know advanced astrology i know some > > astrology and some > > IQ to prove nadi birth chart is exactly same as that > > of nadi. > > > > usually lagna is called ooyir or aavi in nadi > > prediction. > > > > let me say you one thing 1) without knowing the DOB > > and birth time no > > one can predict or cast your birth chart and lagna > > in your chart. but > > i gave only thumb print . with that thing how did > > they able to give > > all the details. > > > > 2) in this case i already have birth chart in my > > home. on one fine day > > i went to strange nadi astrologer house which is 72 > > km from my home > > in chennai.i gave my thumb print and i got my birth > > details and > > prediction from a nadi people. then i went home > > cross checked it with > > my own birth chart in my home. the chart details > > ,lagna position > > ,planetary position, tamil year month and day all > > are right. and > > exactly as told in nadi. > > > > > > if you still have doubt ask dhinakar of this forum > > he too went to the > > same astrologer. > > > > i dont know what is there to confuse.i am scorpio > > lagna . they > > predicted it right > > > > > > > > -- In , vbdeshmukh > > <deshmukhv@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sebastian, > > > You raised high hopes when you said you got > > correct > > > Lagna amsha from Naadi and hence I requested you > > to > > > give me the details of your source which helped > > you in > > > comparing / verifying the Lagna Amsha.In short, on > > > what basis you found that the lagna degrees were > > > correct ? When you got your birth chart with > > planetary > > > positions from the Naadi Reader, how did you infer > > > that the chart was correct for the time, date and > > > place of birth ? Probably, you already had your > > chart > > > with which you compared Naadi Chart or you got it > > > checked with some astrolger who confirmed it as > > > correct.Would you therefore kindly confirm the > > factual > > > position ? If you are an astrologer or know > > astrology > > > I am sure you can guess as to what I am hinting > > > at.Shri Rayudu's website simply does not come into > > > picture unless he has confirmed your naadi chart > > as > > > correct in his website as an example. In that case > > I > > > can directly approach him and get the > > details.Hope, no > > > hard feelings. > > > Looking forward to hearing from you, > > > Sinceely, > > > VBD > > > --- Dhinakar Rajaram <dhinakarrajaram@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Even for me, my father and my sister the chart > > > > details were 100% correct. Our readings were > > seen > > > > by D. balasubramaniam. > > > > > > > > Dhinakar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jsebastian88@ > > > > Sun, 24 Aug 2008 08:22:37 +0000 > > > > Fwd: Re: Re: AGE OF > > DEATH > > > > IN NADI > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my reply is --- see the reply of > > mine to > > > > guy called shortcut. and > > > > > > > > refer rayudu astrology website for your answers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yes my lagna was predicted accurately in agastya > > > > nadi in > > > > > > > > kanchipuram. i gave only my thumb print. i dont > > know > > > > others not > > > > > > > > believing it. i chanllenge any one to agastya > > nadi > > > > in kanchipuram . > > > > > > > > they will give you the exact details of you > > birth > > > > chart. they dont ask > > > > > > > > your date of birth , but still they will give > > your > > > > lagna and etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and read those article given by prakasen senthil > > . > > > > it was awesome > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > vbdeshmukh > > > > <deshmukhv@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sebastian, > > > > > > > > > I am eagerly awaiting the favour of your > > > > compliance > > > > > > > > > with my request to enlighten me about the > > > > > > > > > source/panchang/ ephemeris you referred to > > > > > > > > > verify/compare your Lagna Amsha/Asc. Degree as > > > > given > > > > > > > > > in your Naadi. > > > > > > > > > Regds, > > > > > > > > > VBD > > > > > > > > > --- vbdeshmukh <deshmukhv@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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