Guest guest Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 Wing Commander Shashikant Oak. Pune, India.--- On Fri, 8/8/08, santosh oak <santoshoak wrote:santosh oak <santoshoakRE: Fake Naadi readersshashikantoak, anant.padmanabhan, ankush_singh108, "naadi astrology" , "Prasad Bankar" <prasadbankar, "Shyam Chandel" <chandel_shyam, "Thriveni Chandrasekaran" <venishank, "puneet d" <pdswalia, "Hari Dharan" <harinomore, dpvastu, gadwayanand, jayashrii54, "Srinivas Kasam" <kasam_sri, "harish kumar" <harish_kumar551, "K. Loganathan" <ulagankmy, masihik, "Rakesh Nanda" <rakeshnanda, "Kim Paisol" <paisol, "piyush pande" <piyushpande, "Sandeep Prasad" <sandeeprasad, "Prof.S.N.Arseculeratne" <chubby, pthakurdesai, puru, "Rajan Rajan" <rajanwho, rajas.khaladkar, "ana salema" <salemana, sambandan, "Dr. John Samuel" <drjohn_samuel, sgalitkarDate: Friday, 8 August, 2008, 10:59 AM Dear all, Let me add a bit of my experience to this discussion. I had my naadi read in Kanchipuram where no English translation was available.My friend S.Ramakrishnan had taken me there and he translated it from me.I knew nothing about Naadi and I think the Naadi reader saw me first and last time because after that day I have not met him nor will I be even able to find the place where Naadi was read. Any way my books were written and tape recording was given which is still with me/This happened in 1993 or so. I was prescribed some Poojas which were quite extensive and spread out i.e. in Madurai and other interior parts of TN.Due to my friend's and God's blessings I could complete the poojas and also got my "tavij" which was given by the naadi reader after some poojas from his side. I must say that prior to this I never heard about this nor I went near it ever. It just happened and after that I never felt the need to do more naadi for myself. But seeing the beneficial changes to my life several( means hundreds) of people started going to Chennai from Pune and Mumbai.Several accompanied me and many more went on their own. I know, PERSONALLY, at least 450 to 500 different people who did the naadi in my presence, because one set of Naadi readers were residing in my house in Pune.I have seen several professionals, builders,actors, business men, politicians, army officers, educationists, industrialists and bureaucrats etc getting their naadi read and benefit from it ---because after a few weeks they would bring their friends, relatives and associates for doing it. There was NO PUBLICITY OF ANY KIND THEN.This was in the year 2000 and 2001.IT WAS A BIG REVELATION TO ME. This is somehting which cannot be proved to anyone.Those who can experience it will be able to benefit those who cannot, will not. Getting a good naadi reader is a slice of luck--like getting good friends, or good parents or good bosses. Or even getting a good doctor.Can we judge a doctor?If he benefits us he is good if he does not then? I personally feel no use in trying prove this to anyone.If you want and if you need you should do it. If not stay away. Simple. Fri, 8 Aug 2008 09:33:49 +0530shashikantoakSubject: Fake Naadi readersanant.padmanabhan; ankush_singh108; ; prasadbankar; chandel_shyam; venishank; pdswalia; harinomore; dpvastu; gadwayanand; Jayashrii54; kasam_sri; harish_kumar551; ulagankmy; masihik; rakeshnanda; paisol; piyushpande; sandeeprasad; chubby; pthakurdesai; puru; rajanwho; rajas.khaladkar; salemana; sambandan; drjohn_samuel; santoshoak; sgalitkar Dear Friends,Recently I have been cautioned by the group members not to propagate the fake Naadi Centre readers and stop patronising them especially from Maharashtra and in particular from Pune.In addition my views in bold on some remarks are down below-...(there may have been good Naadi readers in the past but the ones inBig cities are fake and cheating people, and you are conductingmeetings to honour them . You are writing a lot on this Naadi but haveyour ever did any research on this ? other than story of Naadi leaves > handed over by British people in Tamilnadu. Have you everchecked these are true ? any docs suggesting this ?)....My view - Those of you who have read or contacted me may understand that from the beginning, I have been a person who has critically checked every bit of Naadi books / Granths. When satisfied 100% then only I wrote some articles. They got published in the form of books later on. In that quest, I happened to get the photographs of the Naadi palm leaves and got them independently checked from my Tamil knowing friends in the Indian Air Force, who had no interest in this matter. Then got the leaves scrutinised by the Manuscript experts. Understood the system of making of palm leaf ready to write from its green braches to the writing material. Conducted extensive interviews as directed in the Naadi leaves at different times. Visited many places as per instruction by the Maharishis which were exactly not known to the Naadi readers themselves. Constructed a sample dictionary of Naadi words with the active support of Director and senior Researcher from World famous Institute on Indology from Chennai. This has been done single headedly without any help from any institute or financial help. Some friends like Wing Commander Rakesh Nanda, Phiroze Mistry, Rajan Vaidya, Santosh Oak, Puneet Walia, Aldaan Rajan Sharma, Udo Knipper, Prof. Adwayanand Galatage, Uday and Priti Mehta and many from all parts of India were instrumental in making me rich with unique and strange experiences. In my meetings with the Naadi Centres, be it from any part of India, I have been constantly telling them that you will have to change your attitude towards the Naadi readings business. Do not ask for date of birth at all. Please read only the names of the relevant persons from leaf directly so that the feeling that the information being extracted from the client could be wiped off. Some banners have been given free of cost to some of centres personally for display. 20 points for improvement in their profession noted by many visitors to the Naadi centres have been discussed in the conference in the presence of an audience of more than 400 Naadi Lovers in Pune. Requests to be honest to the work of reading, not to add or conceal any matter from the leaf unless there is an instruction that effect in the leaf. All of this I have been putting up on our group files etc from time to time.{While writing this mail, I have been wondering that have I really done all this? No. It could not have been possible without the guidance of great Maharishies from time to time.}> ....Everybody had bad experience with people you have referred on thewebsite and book . So I request you not to exploit the weakness ofpoor souls and entrap with fear so that the crooks can exploit themeasily.....My Views - I do not claim that every one will have similar kind of strong experience like mine or some of the names mentioned in my books. There have been many instances of predictions wherein only bad things happened as predicted. Happy or hopeful predictions invariably failed miserably. Same Naadi Centre may be very good to someone’s same may be a cheater to another. Therefore to brand any centre as per the experience of some is not my job. If any one wishes to get the Naadi reading, the ready references are provided in the book or Website. Let the persons decide of their own. I do not treat it as exploitation of 'poor souls'. Share files, take polls, and make new friends - all under one roof. Your PC, mobile phone, and online services work together like never before. See how Windows® fits your life Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. 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Guest guest Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 Dear Sir,I totally agree with you.Regards,jagannathan.On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 7:11 AM, SHASHIKANT OAK <shashikantoak wrote: Wing Commander Shashikant Oak. Pune, India.--- On Fri, 8/8/08, santosh oak <santoshoak wrote: santosh oak <santoshoakRE: Fake Naadi readersshashikantoak, anant.padmanabhan, ankush_singh108, " naadi astrology " , " Prasad Bankar " <prasadbankar, " Shyam Chandel " <chandel_shyam, " Thriveni Chandrasekaran " <venishank, " puneet d " <pdswalia, " Hari Dharan " <harinomore, dpvastu, gadwayanand, jayashrii54, " Srinivas Kasam " <kasam_sri, " harish kumar " <harish_kumar551, " K. Loganathan " <ulagankmy, masihik, " Rakesh Nanda " <rakeshnanda, " Kim Paisol " <paisol, " piyush pande " <piyushpande, " Sandeep Prasad " <sandeeprasad, " Prof.S.N.Arseculeratne " <chubby, pthakurdesai, puru, " Rajan Rajan " <rajanwho, rajas.khaladkar, " ana salema " <salemana, sambandan, " Dr. John Samuel " <drjohn_samuel, sgalitkar Friday, 8 August, 2008, 10:59 AM Dear all, Let me add a bit of my experience to this discussion. I had my naadi read in Kanchipuram where no English translation was available.My friend S.Ramakrishnan had taken me there and he translated it from me.I knew nothing about Naadi and I think the Naadi reader saw me first and last time because after that day I have not met him nor will I be even able to find the place where Naadi was read. Any way my books were written and tape recording was given which is still with me/This happened in 1993 or so. I was prescribed some Poojas which were quite extensive and spread out i.e. in Madurai and other interior parts of TN.Due to my friend's and God's blessings I could complete the poojas and also got my " tavij " which was given by the naadi reader after some poojas from his side. I must say that prior to this I never heard about this nor I went near it ever. It just happened and after that I never felt the need to do more naadi for myself. But seeing the beneficial changes to my life several( means hundreds) of people started going to Chennai from Pune and Mumbai.Several accompanied me and many more went on their own. I know, PERSONALLY, at least 450 to 500 different people who did the naadi in my presence, because one set of Naadi readers were residing in my house in Pune.I have seen several professionals, builders,actors, business men, politicians, army officers, educationists, industrialists and bureaucrats etc getting their naadi read and benefit from it ---because after a few weeks they would bring their friends, relatives and associates for doing it. There was NO PUBLICITY OF ANY KIND THEN.This was in the year 2000 and 2001.IT WAS A BIG REVELATION TO ME. This is somehting which cannot be proved to anyone.Those who can experience it will be able to benefit those who cannot, will not. Getting a good naadi reader is a slice of luck--like getting good friends, or good parents or good bosses. Or even getting a good doctor.Can we judge a doctor?If he benefits us he is good if he does not then? I personally feel no use in trying prove this to anyone.If you want and if you need you should do it. If not stay away. Simple. Fri, 8 Aug 2008 09:33:49 +0530shashikantoakSubject: Fake Naadi readersanant.padmanabhan; ankush_singh108; ; prasadbankar; chandel_shyam; venishank; pdswalia; harinomore; dpvastu; gadwayanand; Jayashrii54; kasam_sri; harish_kumar551; ulagankmy; masihik; rakeshnanda; paisol; piyushpande; sandeeprasad; chubby; pthakurdesai; puru; rajanwho; rajas.khaladkar; salemana; sambandan; drjohn_samuel; santoshoak; sgalitkar Dear Friends,Recently I have been cautioned by the group members not to propagate the fake Naadi Centre readers and stop patronising them especially from Maharashtra and in particular from Pune.In addition my views in bold on some remarks are down below- ....(there may have been good Naadi readers in the past but the ones inBig cities are fake and cheating people, and you are conductingmeetings to honour them . You are writing a lot on this Naadi but haveyour ever did any research on this ? other than story of Naadi leaves > handed over by British people in Tamilnadu. Have you everchecked these are true ? any docs suggesting this ?)....My view - Those of you who have read or contacted me may understand that from the beginning, I have been a person who has critically checked every bit of Naadi books / Granths. When satisfied 100% then only I wrote some articles. They got published in the form of books later on. In that quest, I happened to get the photographs of the Naadi palm leaves and got them independently checked from my Tamil knowing friends in the Indian Air Force, who had no interest in this matter. Then got the leaves scrutinised by the Manuscript experts. Understood the system of making of palm leaf ready to write from its green braches to the writing material. Conducted extensive interviews as directed in the Naadi leaves at different times. Visited many places as per instruction by the Maharishis which were exactly not known to the Naadi readers themselves. Constructed a sample dictionary of Naadi words with the active support of Director and senior Researcher from World famous Institute on Indology from Chennai. This has been done single headedly without any help from any institute or financial help. Some friends like Wing Commander Rakesh Nanda, Phiroze Mistry, Rajan Vaidya, Santosh Oak, Puneet Walia, Aldaan Rajan Sharma, Udo Knipper, Prof. Adwayanand Galatage, Uday and Priti Mehta and many from all parts of India were instrumental in making me rich with unique and strange experiences. In my meetings with the Naadi Centres, be it from any part of India, I have been constantly telling them that you will have to change your attitude towards the Naadi readings business. Do not ask for date of birth at all. Please read only the names of the relevant persons from leaf directly so that the feeling that the information being extracted from the client could be wiped off. Some banners have been given free of cost to some of centres personally for display. 20 points for improvement in their profession noted by many visitors to the Naadi centres have been discussed in the conference in the presence of an audience of more than 400 Naadi Lovers in Pune. Requests to be honest to the work of reading, not to add or conceal any matter from the leaf unless there is an instruction that effect in the leaf. All of this I have been putting up on our group files etc from time to time.{While writing this mail, I have been wondering that have I really done all this? No. It could not have been possible without the guidance of great Maharishies from time to time.} > ....Everybody had bad experience with people you have referred on thewebsite and book . So I request you not to exploit the weakness ofpoor souls and entrap with fear so that the crooks can exploit them easily.....My Views - I do not claim that every one will have similar kind of strong experience like mine or some of the names mentioned in my books. There have been many instances of predictions wherein only bad things happened as predicted. Happy or hopeful predictions invariably failed miserably. Same Naadi Centre may be very good to someone's same may be a cheater to another. Therefore to brand any centre as per the experience of some is not my job. If any one wishes to get the Naadi reading, the ready references are provided in the book or Website. Let the persons decide of their own. I do not treat it as exploitation of 'poor souls'. Share files, take polls, and make new friends - all under one roof. Your PC, mobile phone, and online services work together like never before. See how Windows® fits your life Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. 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Guest guest Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 The actual fact is: during saraboji bhonsle's time in late 16/17th century, these manuscripts were copied from either palm leafs or from copper plates. Actully the leaves were originally founded by Raja Raja 1 who built Big Temple in Tanjore. These leaves were hidden in Tiruvanaikal Temple in a dungen. They were able to recover only 70 - 80 % of the leaves and restwere eaten by termites. And after saraboji, these leaves were left to shambles and british with their ciriminal mind took many leaves to oriental museum in London and they sold many for firewood. Many such leaves were burnt by them for firewood. Some were later sold to natives and the rest of the story is known now to many. Even now many families are having leaves pertaning to astrology, naadi, medicine etc. I was informed, if a person's karma is so severe, and even if the naadi leaf is found or available, he won't able see it as the karma will blind his mind. There said to be naadis written by naradhar and nandhikeshwarar, which are more accurate and harsh in language and found only in Nepal. These naadi's were in sanskrit.Dhinakar Rajaram From: jagannathankrDate: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 00:58:45 -0800Re: Fw: RE: Fake Naadi readers Dear Sir,I totally agree with you.Regards,jagannathan.On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 7:11 AM, SHASHIKANT OAK <shashikantoak (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Wing Commander Shashikant Oak. Pune, India.--- On Fri, 8/8/08, santosh oak <santoshoak (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: santosh oak <santoshoak (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>RE: Fake Naadi readersshashikantoak (AT) (DOT) co.in, anant.padmanabhan , ankush_singh108 (AT) (DOT) co.in, "naadi astrology" , "Prasad Bankar" <prasadbankar >, "Shyam Chandel" <chandel_shyam >, "Thriveni Chandrasekaran" <venishank >, "puneet d" <pdswalia (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>, "Hari Dharan" <harinomore >, dpvastu , gadwayanand , jayashrii54 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com, "Srinivas Kasam" <kasam_sri >, "harish kumar" <harish_kumar551 >, "K. Loganathan" <ulagankmy >, masihik (AT) rki (DOT) de, "Rakesh Nanda" <rakeshnanda (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com>, "Kim Paisol" <paisol (AT) post (DOT) tele.dk>, "piyush pande" <piyushpande >, "Sandeep Prasad" <sandeeprasad (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>, "Prof.S.N.Arseculeratne" <chubby (AT) sltnet (DOT) lk>, pthakurdesai , puru (AT) astrowise (DOT) com, "Rajan Rajan" <rajanwho >, rajas.khaladkar (AT) syngenta (DOT) com, "ana salema" <salemana (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com>, sambandan (AT) aol (DOT) com, "Dr. John Samuel" <drjohn_samuel (AT) (DOT) co.in>, sgalitkar Friday, 8 August, 2008, 10:59 AM Dear all, Let me add a bit of my experience to this discussion. I had my naadi read in Kanchipuram where no English translation was available.My friend S.Ramakrishnan had taken me there and he translated it from me.I knew nothing about Naadi and I think the Naadi reader saw me first and last time because after that day I have not met him nor will I be even able to find the place where Naadi was read. Any way my books were written and tape recording was given which is still with me/This happened in 1993 or so. I was prescribed some Poojas which were quite extensive and spread out i.e. in Madurai and other interior parts of TN.Due to my friend's and God's blessings I could complete the poojas and also got my "tavij" which was given by the naadi reader after some poojas from his side. I must say that prior to this I never heard about this nor I went near it ever. It just happened and after that I never felt the need to do more naadi for myself. But seeing the beneficial changes to my life several( means hundreds) of people started going to Chennai from Pune and Mumbai.Several accompanied me and many more went on their own. I know, PERSONALLY, at least 450 to 500 different people who did the naadi in my presence, because one set of Naadi readers were residing in my house in Pune.I have seen several professionals, builders,actors, business men, politicians, army officers, educationists, industrialists and bureaucrats etc getting their naadi read and benefit from it ---because after a few weeks they would bring their friends, relatives and associates for doing it. There was NO PUBLICITY OF ANY KIND THEN.This was in the year 2000 and 2001.IT WAS A BIG REVELATION TO ME. This is somehting which cannot be proved to anyone.Those who can experience it will be able to benefit those who cannot, will not. Getting a good naadi reader is a slice of luck--like getting good friends, or good parents or good bosses. Or even getting a good doctor.Can we judge a doctor?If he benefits us he is good if he does not then? I personally feel no use in trying prove this to anyone.If you want and if you need you should do it. If not stay away. Simple. Fri, 8 Aug 2008 09:33:49 +0530shashikantoak (AT) (DOT) co.inSubject: Fake Naadi readersanant.padmanabhan ; ankush_singh108 (AT) (DOT) co.in; ; prasadbankar ; chandel_shyam ; venishank ; pdswalia (AT) hotmail (DOT) com; harinomore ; dpvastu ; gadwayanand ; Jayashrii54 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com; kasam_sri ; harish_kumar551 ; ulagankmy ; masihik (AT) rki (DOT) de; rakeshnanda (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com; paisol (AT) post (DOT) tele.dk; piyushpande ; sandeeprasad (AT) hotmail (DOT) com; chubby (AT) sltnet (DOT) lk; pthakurdesai ; puru (AT) astrowise (DOT) com; rajanwho ; rajas.khaladkar (AT) syngenta (DOT) com; salemana (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com; sambandan (AT) aol (DOT) com; drjohn_samuel (AT) (DOT) co.in; santoshoak (AT) hotmail (DOT) com; sgalitkar Dear Friends,Recently I have been cautioned by the group members not to propagate the fake Naadi Centre readers and stop patronising them especially from Maharashtra and in particular from Pune.In addition my views in bold on some remarks are down below- ....(there may have been good Naadi readers in the past but the ones inBig cities are fake and cheating people, and you are conductingmeetings to honour them . You are writing a lot on this Naadi but haveyour ever did any research on this ? other than story of Naadi leaves > handed over by British people in Tamilnadu. Have you everchecked these are true ? any docs suggesting this ?)....My view - Those of you who have read or contacted me may understand that from the beginning, I have been a person who has critically checked every bit of Naadi books / Granths. When satisfied 100% then only I wrote some articles. They got published in the form of books later on. In that quest, I happened to get the photographs of the Naadi palm leaves and got them independently checked from my Tamil knowing friends in the Indian Air Force, who had no interest in this matter. Then got the leaves scrutinised by the Manuscript experts. Understood the system of making of palm leaf ready to write from its green braches to the writing material. Conducted extensive interviews as directed in the Naadi leaves at different times. Visited many places as per instruction by the Maharishis which were exactly not known to the Naadi readers themselves. Constructed a sample dictionary of Naadi words with the active support of Director and senior Researcher from World famous Institute on Indology from Chennai. This has been done single headedly without any help from any institute or financial help. Some friends like Wing Commander Rakesh Nanda, Phiroze Mistry, Rajan Vaidya, Santosh Oak, Puneet Walia, Aldaan Rajan Sharma, Udo Knipper, Prof. Adwayanand Galatage, Uday and Priti Mehta and many from all parts of India were instrumental in making me rich with unique and strange experiences. In my meetings with the Naadi Centres, be it from any part of India, I have been constantly telling them that you will have to change your attitude towards the Naadi readings business. Do not ask for date of birth at all. Please read only the names of the relevant persons from leaf directly so that the feeling that the information being extracted from the client could be wiped off. Some banners have been given free of cost to some of centres personally for display. 20 points for improvement in their profession noted by many visitors to the Naadi centres have been discussed in the conference in the presence of an audience of more than 400 Naadi Lovers in Pune. Requests to be honest to the work of reading, not to add or conceal any matter from the leaf unless there is an instruction that effect in the leaf. All of this I have been putting up on our group files etc from time to time.{While writing this mail, I have been wondering that have I really done all this? No. It could not have been possible without the guidance of great Maharishies from time to time.} > ....Everybody had bad experience with people you have referred on thewebsite and book . So I request you not to exploit the weakness ofpoor souls and entrap with fear so that the crooks can exploit them easily.....My Views - I do not claim that every one will have similar kind of strong experience like mine or some of the names mentioned in my books. There have been many instances of predictions wherein only bad things happened as predicted. Happy or hopeful predictions invariably failed miserably. Same Naadi Centre may be very good to someone's same may be a cheater to another. Therefore to brand any centre as per the experience of some is not my job. If any one wishes to get the Naadi reading, the ready references are provided in the book or Website. Let the persons decide of their own. I do not treat it as exploitation of 'poor souls'. Share files, take polls, and make new friends - all under one roof. Your PC, mobile phone, and online services work together like never before. See how Windows® fits your life Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. 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Guest guest Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 mostly people says these nadi leaves are originally came from north to escape from islamic invasion it came to south kings. tanjore king,'s men transleted it from sanskrit to tamil. i dont k now how far its true. i dont think the british took nadi to use it as fire wood but i know they took it for some medicine but eventually gave it back to loyals. nadi might have been written by some ancient astrologers and their students. as we all there many university in ancient in india and astrology is one of the ancient science studied in ancient universities. , Dhinakar Rajaram <dhinakarrajaram wrote: > > The actual fact is: during saraboji bhonsle's time in late 16/17th century, these manuscripts were copied from either palm leafs or from copper plates. Actully the leaves were originally founded by Raja Raja 1 who built Big Temple in Tanjore. These leaves were hidden in Tiruvanaikal Temple in a dungen. They were able to recover only 70 - 80 % of the leaves and restwere eaten by termites. And after saraboji, these leaves were left to shambles and british with their ciriminal mind took many leaves to oriental museum in London and they sold many for firewood. Many such leaves were burnt by them for firewood. Some were later sold to natives and the rest of the story is known now to many. Even now many families are having leaves pertaning to astrology, naadi, medicine etc. I was informed, if a person's karma is so severe, and even if the naadi leaf is found or available, he won't able see it as the karma will blind his mind. There said to be naadis written by naradhar and nandhikeshwarar, which are more accurate and harsh in language and found only in Nepal. These naadi's were in sanskrit. > > Dhinakar Rajaram > > > > > jagannathankr > Wed, 13 Aug 2008 00:58:45 -0800 > Re: Fw: RE: Fake Naadi readers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > I totally agree with you. > Regards, > jagannathan. > > On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 7:11 AM, SHASHIKANT OAK <shashikantoak wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wing Commander Shashikant Oak. Pune, India. > > --- On Fri, 8/8/08, santosh oak <santoshoak wrote: > > santosh oak <santoshoak > RE: Fake Naadi readers > shashikantoak, anant.padmanabhan, ankush_singh108, " naadi astrology " , " Prasad Bankar " <prasadbankar, " Shyam Chandel " <chandel_shyam, " Thriveni Chandrasekaran " <venishank, " puneet d " <pdswalia, " Hari Dharan " > <harinomore, dpvastu, gadwayanand, jayashrii54, " Srinivas Kasam " <kasam_sri, " harish kumar " <harish_kumar551, " K. Loganathan " <ulagankmy, masihik, " Rakesh Nanda " <rakeshnanda, " Kim Paisol " <paisol, " piyush pande " <piyushpande, " Sandeep Prasad " <sandeeprasad, " Prof.S.N.Arseculeratne " <chubby, pthakurdesai, puru, " Rajan Rajan " <rajanwho, rajas.khaladkar, " ana salema " <salemana, sambandan, " Dr. John Samuel " <drjohn_samuel, sgalitkar > > Friday, 8 August, 2008, 10:59 AM > > > > > Dear all, Let me add a bit of my experience to this discussion. > > I had my naadi read in Kanchipuram where no English translation was available.My friend S.Ramakrishnan > > had taken me there and he translated it from me.I knew nothing about Naadi and I think > > the Naadi reader saw me first and last time because after that day I have not met him nor will I be even > > able to find the place where Naadi was read. > > Any way my books were written and tape recording was given which is still with me/This happened in 1993 or so. > > I was prescribed some Poojas which were quite extensive and spread out i.e. in Madurai and other interior parts > > of TN.Due to my friend's and God's blessings I could complete the poojas and also got my " tavij " which was > > given by the naadi reader after some poojas from his side. > > I must say that prior to this I never heard about this nor I went near it ever. > > It just happened and after that I never felt the need to do more naadi for myself. > > But seeing the beneficial changes to my life several( means hundreds) of people started going to > > Chennai from Pune and Mumbai.Several accompanied me and many more went on their own. > > I know, PERSONALLY, at least 450 to 500 different people who did the naadi in my presence, > > because one set of Naadi readers were residing in my house in Pune.I have seen several professionals, > > builders,actors, business men, politicians, army officers, educationists, industrialists and bureaucrats > > etc getting their naadi read and benefit from it ---because after a few weeks they would bring their > > friends, relatives and associates for doing it. > > There was NO PUBLICITY OF ANY KIND THEN.This was in the year 2000 and 2001.IT WAS A BIG REVELATION TO ME. > > This is somehting which cannot be proved to anyone.Those who can experience it will be able to benefit > > those who cannot, will not. > > Getting a good naadi reader is a slice of luck--like getting good friends, or good parents or good bosses. > > Or even getting a good doctor.Can we judge a doctor?If he benefits us he is good if he does not then? > > I personally feel no use in trying prove this to anyone.If you want and if you need you should do it. > > If not stay away. > > Simple. > Fri, 8 Aug 2008 09:33:49 +0530 > shashikantoak > Fake Naadi readers > anant.padmanabhan; ankush_singh108; ; prasadbankar; chandel_shyam; venishank; pdswalia; harinomore; dpvastu; gadwayanand; Jayashrii54; kasam_sri; harish_kumar551; ulagankmy; masihik; rakeshnanda; paisol; piyushpande; sandeeprasad; chubby; pthakurdesai; puru; rajanwho; rajas.khaladkar; salemana; sambandan; drjohn_samuel; santoshoak; sgalitkar > > Dear Friends, > > Recently I have been cautioned by the group members not to propagate the fake Naadi Centre readers and stop patronising them especially from Maharashtra and in particular from Pune. > In addition my views in bold on some remarks are down below- > > > ...(there may have been good Naadi readers in the past but the ones in > Big cities are fake and cheating people, and you are conducting > meetings to honour them . You are writing a lot on this Naadi but have > your ever did any research on this ? other than story of Naadi leaves > > > handed over by British people in Tamilnadu. Have you ever > checked these are true ? any docs suggesting this ?).... > > My view - Those of you who have read or contacted me may understand that from the beginning, I have been a person who has critically checked every bit of Naadi books / Granths. When satisfied 100% then only I wrote some > articles. They got published in the form of books later on. In that quest, I happened to get the photographs of the Naadi palm leaves and got them independently checked from my Tamil knowing friends in the Indian Air Force, who had no interest in this matter. Then got the leaves scrutinised by the Manuscript experts. Understood the system of making of palm leaf ready to write from its green braches to the writing material. Conducted extensive interviews as directed in the Naadi leaves at different times. Visited many places as per instruction by the Maharishis which were exactly not known to the Naadi readers themselves. Constructed a sample dictionary of Naadi words with the active support of Director and senior Researcher from World famous Institute on Indology from Chennai. This has been done single headedly without any help from any institute or financial help. Some friends like Wing Commander Rakesh Nanda, Phiroze Mistry, Rajan Vaidya, Santosh Oak, > Puneet Walia, Aldaan Rajan Sharma, Udo Knipper, Prof. Adwayanand Galatage, Uday and Priti Mehta and many from all parts of India were instrumental in making me rich with unique and strange experiences. > > In my meetings with the Naadi Centres, be it from any part of India, I have been constantly telling them that you will have to change your attitude towards the Naadi readings business. Do not ask for date of birth at all. Please read only the names of the relevant persons from leaf directly so that the feeling that the information being extracted from the client could be wiped off. Some banners have been given free of cost to some of centres personally for display. 20 points for improvement in their profession noted by many visitors to the Naadi centres have been discussed in the conference in the presence of an audience of more than 400 Naadi Lovers in Pune. Requests to be honest to the work of > reading, not to add or conceal any matter from the leaf unless there is an instruction that effect in the leaf. All of this I have been putting up on our group files etc from time to time. > {While writing this mail, I have been wondering that have I really done all this? No. It could not have been possible without the guidance of great Maharishies from time to time.} > > > > ....Everybody had bad experience with people you have referred on the > website and book . So I request you not to exploit the weakness of > poor souls and entrap with fear so that the crooks can exploit them > > easily..... > > My Views - I do not claim that every one will have similar kind of strong experience like mine or some of the names mentioned in my books. There have been many instances of predictions wherein only bad things happened as predicted. Happy or hopeful predictions invariably failed miserably. Same Naadi Centre may > be very good to someone's same may be a cheater to another. Therefore to brand any centre as per the experience of some is not my job. If any one wishes to get the Naadi reading, the ready references are provided in the book or Website. Let the persons decide of their own. I do not treat it as exploitation of 'poor souls'. > > > > Share files, take polls, and make new friends - all under one roof. > Your PC, mobile phone, and online services work together like never before. See how Windows® fits your life > > > > > Did you know? 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Guest guest Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 british people never burnt any manuscript. they wanted to study them burning was the mentality of muslims. they burnt nalanda univ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 Sorry for your comments. I strongly object to your views. As this is not a place for your hates. I have proof that British like many European Colonists indulged in those acts in India. As naadi was found only in South India (incl of Sanskrit naadi's) and there was disparate act of blackout of the Indian gems. Still many can find in India House which houses British Museum rare manuscripts. There is a recording by U V Swaminatha Iyer that even Indians burnt these leaves as firewood without knowing there value. He brought out many works right from devaram to naadi. Offcourse, some leaves were sold by British to localsparticularly to a community called 'VALLUVARS'. It is the same community Sage and Saint Tiruvalluvar belong. Even today 99% of naadi readers belong to this community. Actully speaking, these leaves are rewritten (recopied) for preservation once in every 300 - 400 years. There are some copper plate naadi grandhas in Saraswati mahal, oriental library, Madras Library, Sir Connemara Govt. Library. There are many leaves in Connemara public library in Chennai, but not many may have seen them. The burning and taking and selling of these leaves were done during time of : Sir Robert Clive, Sir Warren Hastings, Sir First Marquess Cornwallis and Major Genral Duplex of Pondicery. Dhinakar From: ecstacymasterDate: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 07:25:46 -0700Re: Re: Fw: RE: Fake Naadi readers british people never burnt any manuscript. they wanted to study them burning was the mentality of muslims. they burnt nalanda univ. Do you have a You id yet? Get it now. Sign up for a Windows Live ID Try it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 Dopes this imply that the so-called Naadi Rishis knew about the individual fates of the person mentioned in the naadis but not the fate of the naadis themselves.Maybe there was a Naadi prediction that during the reign of Hastings and Duplex, they would get to overseee burning of Naadi leaves. </sarcasm>On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 10:04 PM, Dhinakar Rajaram <dhinakarrajaram wrote: Sorry for your comments. I strongly object to your views. As this is not a place for your hates. I have proof that British like many European Colonists indulged in those acts in India. As naadi was found only in South India (incl of Sanskrit naadi's) and there was disparate act of blackout of the Indian gems. Still many can find in India House which houses British Museum rare manuscripts. There is a recording by U V Swaminatha Iyer that even Indians burnt these leaves as firewood without knowing there value. He brought out many works right from devaram to naadi. Offcourse, some leaves were sold by British to localsparticularly to a community called 'VALLUVARS'. It is the same community Sage and Saint Tiruvalluvar belong. Even today 99% of naadi readers belong to this community. Actully speaking, these leaves are rewritten (recopied) for preservation once in every 300 - 400 years. There are some copper plate naadi grandhas in Saraswati mahal, oriental library, Madras Library, Sir Connemara Govt. Library. There are many leaves in Connemara public library in Chennai, but not many may have seen them. The burning and taking and selling of these leaves were done during time of : Sir Robert Clive, Sir Warren Hastings, Sir First Marquess Cornwallis and Major Genral Duplex of Pondicery. Dhinakar From: ecstacymasterDate: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 07:25:46 -0700 Re: Re: Fw: RE: Fake Naadi readers british people never burnt any manuscript. they wanted to study them burning was the mentality of muslims. they burnt nalanda univ. Do you have a You id yet? Get it now. Sign up for a Windows Live ID Try it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 Ms. Deepika, I think you don't know even a bit of ancient Indian history. British and other European colonists in India burnt and destroyed many Indian cultural icons. Not only they burnt naadi leaves, but also many Indian manuscripts that contain great information. Unless and untill you are 100% sure, don't come to a idiotic conclusions.I think you are one sided in your views and vomits the views. Before you judge anything, go into it. Even a greatest scientist can't prove or find out where is a soul in the body or how a life is formed (into a meaningful) when a sperm and egg merge as these two don't have life on their own but forms a life. Before you reply, analyse the postings, go through them throughly - but with a neutral mind and if you are sure for 100% then present your views - this is for not only in this forum but every were. People always come to blind conclusion without going into the subject. Answer me openly : Have you ever seen your leaf. What was your experience. Can you expatiate. Putting these questions to you does not me I am for any of these, I want to bring out what is in your mind really. I am acting neutral. One thing keep in mind: what you know is not even quantity of sand in a fist and what you don't know is as large as a ocean. So, go and read with a open mind and don't vomit. Take care Dhinakar , " dipika blr " <blr.aspirant wrote: > > Dopes this imply that the so-called Naadi Rishis knew about the individual > fates of the person mentioned in the naadis but not the fate of the naadis > themselves. > > Maybe there was a Naadi prediction that during the reign of Hastings and > Duplex, they would get to overseee burning of Naadi leaves. > > </sarcasm> > > On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 10:04 PM, Dhinakar Rajaram < > dhinakarrajaram wrote: > > > Sorry for your comments. I strongly object to your views. As this is > > not a place for your hates. I have proof that British like many European > > Colonists indulged in those acts in India. As naadi was found only in South > > India (incl of Sanskrit naadi's) and there was disparate act of blackout of > > the Indian gems. Still many can find in India House which houses British > > Museum rare manuscripts. There is a recording by U V Swaminatha Iyer that > > even Indians burnt these leaves as firewood without knowing there value. He > > brought out many works right from devaram to naadi. Offcourse, some leaves > > were sold by British to localsparticularly to a community called > > 'VALLUVARS'. It is the same community Sage and Saint Tiruvalluvar belong. > > Even today 99% of naadi readers belong to this community. Actully speaking, > > these leaves are rewritten (recopied) for preservation once in every 300 - > > 400 years. > > > > There are some copper plate naadi grandhas in Saraswati mahal, oriental > > library, Madras Library, Sir Connemara Govt. Library. There are many leaves > > in Connemara public library in Chennai, but not many may have seen them. > > > > The burning and taking and selling of these leaves were done during time of > > : Sir Robert Clive, Sir Warren Hastings, Sir First Marquess Cornwallis and > > Major Genral Duplex of Pondicery. > > > > Dhinakar > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > ecstacymaster > > Sun, 17 Aug 2008 07:25:46 -0700 > > Re: Re: Fw: RE: Fake Naadi readers > > > > > > > > british people never burnt any manuscript. > > > > > > they wanted to study them > > burning was the mentality of muslims. they burnt nalanda univ. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Do you have a You id yet? Get it now. Sign up for a Windows Live > > ID Try it! <http://ss1.richmedia.in/recurl.asp?pid=531> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 I don't know whether you know the real history of India esp the ancient Tamil Nadu. When Raja Raja 1 of Chola Empire was in reign, he went to Chidambram Temple and opened a room were he found many manuscripts right from Devaram to tiruvasagam and many writings by sages right from medicine to astrology and astronomy. Many scripts were eaten by termites and those intact were later found to be consistent with the age and those destroyed were off no consistence to the age. Do you know Aryabatta, baskara were the first to calculate the earth was round and they accurately marked the diameter of the earth, distance between sun and other planets, they also told earth is going around the sun a clean 2200 years before Galileo. 2900 years before Darwin, it is a Indian who wrote on Theory of Evolution. It is in ancient scripts the value of pie and zero. Algebra, applied maths, use of Cos and matrices etc were found from ancient Indian leafs. Do you know it is susruta, invented surgery a clean 2600 years before this period. He even did transplants, gave anaesthesia, invented several aids for surgery. Just because, those references are not not found now, does not mean he wasn't there and all fake. Who knows, the sages would have known these would happen. There were several people whom were even more sceptic than you, when compared with them you won't even come closer to any were, they did research on these leaves, and found that these were true to 100% and if you want you can get the radio carbon dating and their research papers, these are available for reading from their respective alma mater. Do you know another thing: The so called super atheists of Tamil Nadu were referring to these leaves and even seeing prasannam with a Kerala astrologer. As per the readings in a jeeva naadi, one eldest politician who is from Atheist group wears a yellow shawl and does everything in auspicious time. So, don't vomit and analyse and express in a neutral way. Dhinakar , " rdhinakar4477 " <dhinakarrajaram wrote: > > Ms. Deepika, > > I think you don't know even a bit of ancient Indian history. British > and other European colonists in India burnt and destroyed many Indian > cultural icons. Not only they burnt naadi leaves, but also many Indian > manuscripts that contain great information. Unless and untill you are > 100% sure, don't come to a idiotic conclusions.I think you are one > sided in your views and vomits the views. > > Before you judge anything, go into it. Even a greatest scientist can't > prove or find out where is a soul in the body or how a life is formed > (into a meaningful) when a sperm and egg merge as these two don't have > life on their own but forms a life. > > Before you reply, analyse the postings, go through them throughly - > but with a neutral mind and if you are sure for 100% then present your > views - this is for not only in this forum but every were. > > People always come to blind conclusion without going into the subject. > > Answer me openly : Have you ever seen your leaf. What was your > experience. Can you expatiate. > > Putting these questions to you does not me I am for any of these, I > want to bring out what is in your mind really. I am acting neutral. > > One thing keep in mind: what you know is not even quantity of sand in > a fist and what you don't know is as large as a ocean. > > So, go and read with a open mind and don't vomit. > > Take care > > Dhinakar > > > , " dipika blr " <blr.aspirant@> > wrote: > > > > Dopes this imply that the so-called Naadi Rishis knew about the > individual > > fates of the person mentioned in the naadis but not the fate of the > naadis > > themselves. > > > > Maybe there was a Naadi prediction that during the reign of Hastings and > > Duplex, they would get to overseee burning of Naadi leaves. > > > > </sarcasm> > > > > On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 10:04 PM, Dhinakar Rajaram < > > dhinakarrajaram@> wrote: > > > > > Sorry for your comments. I strongly object to your views. As > this is > > > not a place for your hates. I have proof that British like many > European > > > Colonists indulged in those acts in India. As naadi was found > only in South > > > India (incl of Sanskrit naadi's) and there was disparate act of > blackout of > > > the Indian gems. Still many can find in India House which houses > British > > > Museum rare manuscripts. There is a recording by U V Swaminatha > Iyer that > > > even Indians burnt these leaves as firewood without knowing there > value. He > > > brought out many works right from devaram to naadi. Offcourse, > some leaves > > > were sold by British to localsparticularly to a community called > > > 'VALLUVARS'. It is the same community Sage and Saint Tiruvalluvar > belong. > > > Even today 99% of naadi readers belong to this community. Actully > speaking, > > > these leaves are rewritten (recopied) for preservation once in > every 300 - > > > 400 years. > > > > > > There are some copper plate naadi grandhas in Saraswati mahal, > oriental > > > library, Madras Library, Sir Connemara Govt. Library. There are > many leaves > > > in Connemara public library in Chennai, but not many may have seen > them. > > > > > > The burning and taking and selling of these leaves were done > during time of > > > : Sir Robert Clive, Sir Warren Hastings, Sir First Marquess > Cornwallis and > > > Major Genral Duplex of Pondicery. > > > > > > Dhinakar > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > ecstacymaster@ > > > Sun, 17 Aug 2008 07:25:46 -0700 > > > Re: Re: Fw: RE: Fake Naadi readers > > > > > > > > > > > > british people never burnt any manuscript. > > > > > > > > > they wanted to study them > > > burning was the mentality of muslims. they burnt nalanda univ. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > Do you have a You@ id yet? Get it now. Sign up for a Windows Live > > > ID Try it! <http://ss1.richmedia.in/recurl.asp?pid=531> > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 do you believe this???--- On Sun, 17/8/08, dipika blr <blr.aspirant wrote: dipika blr <blr.aspirantRe: Re: Fw: RE: Fake Naadi readers Date: Sunday, 17 August, 2008, 11:05 PM Dopes this imply that the so-called Naadi Rishis knew about the individual fates of the person mentioned in the naadis but not the fate of the naadis themselves.Maybe there was a Naadi prediction that during the reign of Hastings and Duplex, they would get to overseee burning of Naadi leaves.</sarcasm> On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 10:04 PM, Dhinakar Rajaram <dhinakarrajaram@ hotmail.com> wrote: Sorry for your comments. I strongly object to your views. As this is not a place for your hates. I have proof that British like many European Colonists indulged in those acts in India. As naadi was found only in South India (incl of Sanskrit naadi's) and there was disparate act of blackout of the Indian gems. Still many can find in India House which houses British Museum rare manuscripts. There is a recording by U V Swaminatha Iyer that even Indians burnt these leaves as firewood without knowing there value. He brought out many works right from devaram to naadi. Offcourse, some leaves were sold by British to localsparticularly to a community called 'VALLUVARS'. It is the same community Sage and Saint Tiruvalluvar belong. Even today 99% of naadi readers belong to this community. Actully speaking, these leaves are rewritten (recopied) for preservation once in every 300 - 400 years. There are some copper plate naadi grandhas in Saraswati mahal, oriental library, Madras Library, Sir Connemara Govt. Library. There are many leaves in Connemara public library in Chennai, but not many may have seen them. The burning and taking and selling of these leaves were done during time of : Sir Robert Clive, Sir Warren Hastings, Sir First Marquess Cornwallis and Major Genral Duplex of Pondicery. Dhinakar ecstacymaster@ gmail.comSun, 17 Aug 2008 07:25:46 -0700Re: Re: Fw: RE: Fake Naadi readers british people never burnt any manuscript. they wanted to study them burning was the mentality of muslims. they burnt nalanda univ. Do you have a You id yet? Get it now. Sign up for a Windows Live ID Try it! Bollywood news, movie reviews, film trailers and more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 goodness gracious god ! whether a manusript is burnt or any valuable cultural commodity . an argument is always fine if it is general . and hurt not any specific sect in our society . please do have a frame in any kind of discussion that it wudn't specify any one in particular . regards viswanath chennai nitin jain <ecstacymaster wrote: british people never burnt any manuscript. they wanted to study them burning was the mentality of muslims. they burnt nalanda univ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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