Guest guest Posted July 26, 2008 Report Share Posted July 26, 2008 Hi group members, Im not a naadi critic but, There was a sensational expose on naadi practices around the capital of naadi astrology V.Koil in tamil Nadu in the tamil news channel sun news on july 25th. The news item showed some places in mayiladuthurai ( 15 kms from Vaitheeswaran koil) where naadi leafs were " prepared " . Here, leafs were washed in some special liquid and later someone scribles on them , so that it looks like an ancient leaf,the ones which the naadi readers have, the ones from which layman or a tamil expert can decipher anything. The person in charge of doing this preparation has confessed on TV. The person who made this expose is the wife of another naadi enthusiast turned naadi critic. This person was reportedly duped by a leading naadi reader in V.Koil - sivasami( who claims to do this profession for generations), when he took the thumb impression of dead man he predicted that he would live a very long life etc. Out of frustration, they have investigated the secret behind this ,and exposed it to Sun TV news channel. This seems to be the same person who put a case on sivasami and was absonding for some time out of fear.. The question now is,how many naadi readers have resorted to such measures and are there any readers at all who are genuine ?. If at all the naadi readers are using rules in naadi astrology( as suspected) to make predictions from horoscopes( just like ordinary astrologers) why cant they accept it,instead of making people believe that they are reading from ancient leafs which were written specifically for the person who has come? It is a sad day for naadi astrology but this should be the wake up call for many of us not to get duped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2008 Report Share Posted July 26, 2008 a wild applauze from my side Mr. sanjeev. i'm really happy that you have brought out a valuable mail. i hope the clippig wud be loaded in youtube very soon . i have seen the news at late night . anyways ur mail is very worth . i have come across few people who have said that some naadi readers are fake. but the person has launched a complaint to the police.let us see whatm happens next.. regards viswanath chennai , " sanjeev2475 " <sanjeev2475 wrote: > > Hi group members, > Im not a naadi critic but, > There was a sensational expose on naadi practices around the capital > of naadi astrology V.Koil in tamil Nadu in the tamil news channel sun > news on july 25th. > > The news item showed some places in mayiladuthurai ( 15 kms from > Vaitheeswaran koil) where naadi leafs were " prepared " . Here, leafs > were washed in some special liquid and later someone scribles on > them , so that it looks like an ancient leaf,the ones which the naadi > readers have, the ones from which layman or a tamil expert can > decipher anything. The person in charge of doing this preparation has > confessed on TV. > > The person who made this expose is the wife of another naadi > enthusiast turned naadi critic. This person was reportedly duped by a > leading naadi reader in V.Koil - sivasami( who claims to do this > profession for generations), when he took the thumb impression of > dead man he predicted that he would live a very long life etc. > Out of frustration, they have investigated the secret behind > this ,and exposed it to Sun TV news channel. This seems to be the > same person who put a case on sivasami and was absonding for some > time out of fear.. > > The question now is,how many naadi readers have resorted to such > measures and are there any readers at all who are genuine ?. > > If at all the naadi readers are using rules in naadi astrology( as > suspected) to make predictions from horoscopes( just like ordinary > astrologers) why cant they accept it,instead of making people believe > that they are reading from ancient leafs which were written > specifically for the person who has come? > > > It is a sad day for naadi astrology but this should be the wake up > call for many of us not to get duped. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2008 Report Share Posted July 26, 2008 Dear seekers, Life is only a mirror..Fake readers and fake leaves are a manefestation of our consciousness. Same as the true readers are. The 'fakes' are just an outcome of our negative thoughts and growing fear that there is nobody 'true' left out there in the naadi world (and world itself.)So the bigger the focus on these 'phantoms' the less hope to meet anybody authentic. Negative thoughts in turn are oftentimes the fruit of bad past life karma. So the circle closes here..as we can destroy this karma when we get to know about it (and remedies) from the true naadis. Although truth sometimes gives cold shivers, I think it is worth it. And when we have a firm decision to talk to the Supreme, NOTHING in turn can stand in our way to hear the truth even if uttered through the lips of the fakest of the fake. May be somebody might label this naive, yet I firmly believe that if the heart is pure and the mind is pure one is destined to reach a place of pure vibrations in the wast realm of naadi. There is room for everything/everybody...when you think of Infinity. Regards, Lota Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 Vishwanath, i dont think police will take any action unless there is high level presure from ministers etc. During my trips to V.Koil, i have personally seen policemen coming and getting 'something' from a leading naadi center there. The constable was talking to the owners son, saying that there are expenses and a new Sub-inspector has come, so we need some amount now and this guy took him inside. Both of them were talking in a very friendly manner as though they were buddies. So it looks like the police are hand in glove with the naadi guys. Im not pretty sure, but otherwise why will a policeman ask the naadi center owner for money ?, the center is runnign in a portion of their own house, there is no enchroachment etc. , so there is no need for them to ask money. But, it may be that this a routine collection from all centers there, just like police collect 'somthing' from shops in the bazaar in cities, whether the shopkeeper is genuine or not. , " viswanath.g " <vis_tamil wrote: > > > a wild applauze from my side Mr. sanjeev. i'm really happy that you > have brought out a valuable mail. i hope the clippig wud be loaded in > youtube very soon . i have seen the news at late night . anyways ur > mail is very worth . i have come across few people who have said that > some naadi readers are fake. but the person has launched a complaint > to the police.let us see whatm happens next.. > > regards > > viswanath > > chennai > > > > > > , " sanjeev2475 " > <sanjeev2475@> wrote: > > > > Hi group members, > > Im not a naadi critic but, > > There was a sensational expose on naadi practices around the > capital > > of naadi astrology V.Koil in tamil Nadu in the tamil news channel > sun > > news on july 25th. > > > > The news item showed some places in mayiladuthurai ( 15 kms from > > Vaitheeswaran koil) where naadi leafs were " prepared " . Here, leafs > > were washed in some special liquid and later someone scribles on > > them , so that it looks like an ancient leaf,the ones which the > naadi > > readers have, the ones from which layman or a tamil expert can > > decipher anything. The person in charge of doing this preparation > has > > confessed on TV. > > > > The person who made this expose is the wife of another naadi > > enthusiast turned naadi critic. This person was reportedly duped by > a > > leading naadi reader in V.Koil - sivasami( who claims to do this > > profession for generations), when he took the thumb impression of > > dead man he predicted that he would live a very long life etc. > > Out of frustration, they have investigated the secret behind > > this ,and exposed it to Sun TV news channel. This seems to be the > > same person who put a case on sivasami and was absonding for some > > time out of fear.. > > > > The question now is,how many naadi readers have resorted to such > > measures and are there any readers at all who are genuine ?. > > > > If at all the naadi readers are using rules in naadi astrology( as > > suspected) to make predictions from horoscopes( just like ordinary > > astrologers) why cant they accept it,instead of making people > believe > > that they are reading from ancient leafs which were written > > specifically for the person who has come? > > > > > > It is a sad day for naadi astrology but this should be the wake up > > call for many of us not to get duped. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 dear Mr. Sanjeev , indeed yes ! i don't think so that the police would act in a very sincere manner , a year before . during my visit to the temple v koil and the other nearby temple , we took a taxi from a nearby terminus.the taxi driver narrated a situation which is similar to the july 25 th incident ( telecasted on sun news). and he also requested us not to trust on those naadi readers . at one point he disclosed a matter that . if a taxi driver parks his car or takes his passenger to a nearby naadi centre. he will be paid 200 - 500 by the naadi reader as a commission amount. moreover all these news are to be highlighted so that the public would get awareness on fake and genuine . i was really surprised to know that all the palm leaves are been made ready and words are been written on it in the nearby town of mayiladuthurai later they are taken to the naadi centres where the readers claim that those are written by maharishis in ancient tamil . regards viswanath chennai sanjeev2475 <sanjeev2475 wrote: Vishwanath,i dont think police will take any action unless there is high level presure from ministers etc.During my trips to V.Koil, i have personally seen policemen coming and getting 'something' from a leading naadi center there. The constable was talking to the owners son, saying that there are expenses and a new Sub-inspector has come, so we need some amount now and this guy took him inside. Both of them were talking in a very friendly manner as though they were buddies. So it looks like the police are hand in glove with the naadi guys. Im not pretty sure, but otherwise why will a policeman ask the naadi center owner for money ?, the center is runnign in a portion of their own house, there is no enchroachment etc. , so there is no need for them to ask money. But, it may be that this a routine collection from all centers there, just like police collect 'somthing' from shops in the bazaar in cities, whether the shopkeeper is genuine or not. , "viswanath.g" <vis_tamil wrote:>> > a wild applauze from my side Mr. sanjeev. i'm really happy that you > have brought out a valuable mail. i hope the clippig wud be loaded in > youtube very soon . i have seen the news at late night . anyways ur > mail is very worth . i have come across few people who have said that > some naadi readers are fake. but the person has launched a complaint > to the police.let us see whatm happens next..> > regards> > viswanath> > chennai > > > > > > , "sanjeev2475" > <sanjeev2475@> wrote:> >> > Hi group members,> > Im not a naadi critic but,> > There was a sensational expose on naadi practices around the > capital > > of naadi astrology V.Koil in tamil Nadu in the tamil news channel > sun > > news on july 25th.> > > > The news item showed some places in mayiladuthurai ( 15 kms from > > Vaitheeswaran koil) where naadi leafs were "prepared". Here, leafs > > were washed in some special liquid and later someone scribles on > > them , so that it looks like an ancient leaf,the ones which the > naadi > > readers have, the ones from which layman or a tamil expert can > > decipher anything. The person in charge of doing this preparation > has > > confessed on TV.> > > > The person who made this expose is the wife of another naadi > > enthusiast turned naadi critic. This person was reportedly duped by > a > > leading naadi reader in V.Koil - sivasami( who claims to do this > > profession for generations), when he took the thumb impression of > > dead man he predicted that he would live a very long life etc.> > Out of frustration, they have investigated the secret behind > > this ,and exposed it to Sun TV news channel. This seems to be the > > same person who put a case on sivasami and was absonding for some > > time out of fear..> > > > The question now is,how many naadi readers have resorted to such > > measures and are there any readers at all who are genuine ?.> > > > If at all the naadi readers are using rules in naadi astrology( as > > suspected) to make predictions from horoscopes( just like ordinary > > astrologers) why cant they accept it,instead of making people > believe > > that they are reading from ancient leafs which were written > > specifically for the person who has come?> > > > > > It is a sad day for naadi astrology but this should be the wake up > > call for many of us not to get duped.> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 vishwanath, I happened to go to VKoil temple last week. About 3 years back I had my naadi reading in Poosamuthu center,when I fully trusted naadi reading, and I had done all the 'parigaram' suggested by them. Yet, the predictions given by them didn't happen. I went to ask them about this since I had gone to the temple also. The reply I got was honest but ambigous, saying that the time of happenings may vary etc. , you can wait for somemore time otherwise we can look at another kandam called 'santhega kandam'. The reader also tried to bring out my chart from the notebook , I asked him " why are you using astrology, even I know astrology, I came bcos you have the leafs, if you are interpreting the horoscope then I can do it as well " . Then he was surprised and anwered ambiguously. He also said " since you know astrology, dont go to any naadi reader , the predictions done in astrology are as good as this. SO predict yourself since you know astrology " . I liked this reply as it was surprisingly honest, but it has shattered all the myths on the greatness of naadi ,I feel.This is in posamuthu naadi center which is the most reputed in V.Koil and all of tamil nadu for several decades !! He does nt give commission since people go to him automatically bcos of his fame. So you can imagine the state of other reader. You are also writing about hanumanthadasans' jeeva naadi. I know of a few people who have been to him and his predictions have also not worked out for them. My aunt is one of them. WHen she asked him " I have done all the remedy suggested by you, why has nt your predictions worked " . He became a little angry and replied " this is fate, your karma is still not overcome, if you dont believe me dont come here " . He was the person who suggested previously that doing parigasram would solve the problem within a certain time etc... So I think no one can be trusted. , viswanath gopi <vis_tamil wrote: > > dear Mr. Sanjeev , > > indeed yes ! i don't think so that the police would act in a very sincere manner , a year before . during my visit to the temple v koil and the other nearby temple , we took a taxi from a nearby terminus.the taxi driver narrated a situation which is similar to the july 25 th incident ( telecasted on sun news). and he also requested us not to trust on those naadi readers . at one point he disclosed a matter that . if a taxi driver parks his car or takes his passenger to a nearby naadi centre. he will be paid 200 - 500 by the naadi reader as a commission amount. > > moreover all these news are to be highlighted so that the public would get awareness on fake and genuine . i was really surprised to know that all the palm leaves are been made ready and words are been written on it in the nearby town of mayiladuthurai later they are taken to the naadi centres where the readers claim that those are written by maharishis in ancient tamil . > > regards > > viswanath > > chennai > > sanjeev2475 <sanjeev2475 wrote: > Vishwanath, > i dont think police will take any action unless there is high level > presure from ministers etc. > > During my trips to V.Koil, i have personally seen policemen coming > and getting 'something' from a leading naadi center there. The > constable was talking to the owners son, saying that there are > expenses and a new Sub-inspector has come, so we need some amount now > and this guy took him inside. Both of them were talking in a very > friendly manner as though they were buddies. So it looks like the > police are hand in glove with the naadi guys. Im not pretty sure, but > otherwise why will a policeman ask the naadi center owner for > money ?, the center is runnign in a portion of their own house, there > is no enchroachment etc. , so there is no need for them to ask money. > But, it may be that this a routine collection from all centers there, > just like police collect 'somthing' from shops in the bazaar in > cities, whether the shopkeeper is genuine or not. > > , " viswanath.g " <vis_tamil@> > wrote: > > > > > > a wild applauze from my side Mr. sanjeev. i'm really happy that you > > have brought out a valuable mail. i hope the clippig wud be loaded > in > > youtube very soon . i have seen the news at late night . anyways ur > > mail is very worth . i have come across few people who have said > that > > some naadi readers are fake. but the person has launched a > complaint > > to the police.let us see whatm happens next.. > > > > regards > > > > viswanath > > > > chennai > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sanjeev2475 " > > <sanjeev2475@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi group members, > > > Im not a naadi critic but, > > > There was a sensational expose on naadi practices around the > > capital > > > of naadi astrology V.Koil in tamil Nadu in the tamil news channel > > sun > > > news on july 25th. > > > > > > The news item showed some places in mayiladuthurai ( 15 kms from > > > Vaitheeswaran koil) where naadi leafs were " prepared " . Here, > leafs > > > were washed in some special liquid and later someone scribles on > > > them , so that it looks like an ancient leaf,the ones which the > > naadi > > > readers have, the ones from which layman or a tamil expert can > > > decipher anything. The person in charge of doing this preparation > > has > > > confessed on TV. > > > > > > The person who made this expose is the wife of another naadi > > > enthusiast turned naadi critic. This person was reportedly duped > by > > a > > > leading naadi reader in V.Koil - sivasami( who claims to do this > > > profession for generations), when he took the thumb impression of > > > dead man he predicted that he would live a very long life etc. > > > Out of frustration, they have investigated the secret behind > > > this ,and exposed it to Sun TV news channel. This seems to be the > > > same person who put a case on sivasami and was absonding for some > > > time out of fear.. > > > > > > The question now is,how many naadi readers have resorted to such > > > measures and are there any readers at all who are genuine ?. > > > > > > If at all the naadi readers are using rules in naadi astrology( > as > > > suspected) to make predictions from horoscopes( just like > ordinary > > > astrologers) why cant they accept it,instead of making people > > believe > > > that they are reading from ancient leafs which were written > > > specifically for the person who has come? > > > > > > > > > It is a sad day for naadi astrology but this should be the wake > up > > > call for many of us not to get duped. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 there are many frauds going around in v koil with name of poosamuthu and gemini selvaraj. so becarefull. they are waiting in bus stand to brain wash the visitors and compel the visitors to come to their nadi astrology centers. i also beleive hanumanth dasan the jeeva nadi astrologer is also fake. he is lieing to people. and writes too much of unbelivable story in news papers. i am quite skeptical about jeeva nadi too. how come one can talk to sage agastya. this is much of scientific fantasy. i believe ordinary nadi but not jeeva nadi. , " sanjeev2475 " <sanjeev2475 wrote: > > vishwanath, > I happened to go to VKoil temple last week. > About 3 years back I had my naadi reading in Poosamuthu center,when I > fully trusted naadi reading, and I had done all the 'parigaram' > suggested by them. Yet, the predictions given by them didn't happen. > I went to ask them about this since I had gone to the temple also. > The reply I got was honest but ambigous, saying that the time of > happenings may vary etc. , you can wait for somemore time otherwise > we can look at another kandam called 'santhega kandam'. The reader > also tried to bring out my chart from the notebook , I asked him " > why are you using astrology, even I know astrology, I came bcos you > have the leafs, if you are interpreting the horoscope then I can do > it as well " . Then he was surprised and anwered ambiguously. He also > said " since you know astrology, dont go to any naadi reader , the > predictions done in astrology are as good as this. SO predict > yourself since you know astrology " . I liked this reply as it was > surprisingly honest, but it has shattered all the myths on the > greatness of naadi ,I feel.This is in posamuthu naadi center which is > the most reputed in V.Koil and all of tamil nadu for several > decades !! He does nt give commission since people go to him > automatically bcos of his fame. So you can imagine the state of other > reader. > > > You are also writing about hanumanthadasans' jeeva naadi. > I know of a few people who have been to him and his predictions have > also not worked out for them. My aunt is one of them. WHen she asked > him " I have done all the remedy suggested by you, why has nt your > predictions worked " . He became a little angry and replied " this is > fate, your karma is still not overcome, if you dont believe me dont > come here " . He was the person who suggested previously that doing > parigasram would solve the problem within a certain time etc... > > So I think no one can be trusted. > > > , viswanath gopi <vis_tamil@> > wrote: > > > > dear Mr. Sanjeev , > > > > indeed yes ! i don't think so that the police would act in a very > sincere manner , a year before . during my visit to the temple v > koil and the other nearby temple , we took a taxi from a nearby > terminus.the taxi driver narrated a situation which is similar to > the july 25 th incident ( telecasted on sun news). and he also > requested us not to trust on those naadi readers . at one point he > disclosed a matter that . if a taxi driver parks his car or takes > his passenger to a nearby naadi centre. he will be paid 200 - 500 by > the naadi reader as a commission amount. > > > > moreover all these news are to be highlighted so that the public > would get awareness on fake and genuine . i was really surprised to > know that all the palm leaves are been made ready and words are been > written on it in the nearby town of mayiladuthurai later they are > taken to the naadi centres where the readers claim that those are > written by maharishis in ancient tamil . > > > > regards > > > > viswanath > > > > chennai > > > > sanjeev2475 <sanjeev2475@> wrote: > > Vishwanath, > > i dont think police will take any action unless there is high level > > presure from ministers etc. > > > > During my trips to V.Koil, i have personally seen policemen coming > > and getting 'something' from a leading naadi center there. The > > constable was talking to the owners son, saying that there are > > expenses and a new Sub-inspector has come, so we need some amount > now > > and this guy took him inside. Both of them were talking in a very > > friendly manner as though they were buddies. So it looks like the > > police are hand in glove with the naadi guys. Im not pretty sure, > but > > otherwise why will a policeman ask the naadi center owner for > > money ?, the center is runnign in a portion of their own house, > there > > is no enchroachment etc. , so there is no need for them to ask > money. > > But, it may be that this a routine collection from all centers > there, > > just like police collect 'somthing' from shops in the bazaar in > > cities, whether the shopkeeper is genuine or not. > > > > , " viswanath.g " <vis_tamil@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > a wild applauze from my side Mr. sanjeev. i'm really happy that > you > > > have brought out a valuable mail. i hope the clippig wud be > loaded > > in > > > youtube very soon . i have seen the news at late night . anyways > ur > > > mail is very worth . i have come across few people who have said > > that > > > some naadi readers are fake. but the person has launched a > > complaint > > > to the police.let us see whatm happens next.. > > > > > > regards > > > > > > viswanath > > > > > > chennai > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sanjeev2475 " > > > <sanjeev2475@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi group members, > > > > Im not a naadi critic but, > > > > There was a sensational expose on naadi practices around the > > > capital > > > > of naadi astrology V.Koil in tamil Nadu in the tamil news > channel > > > sun > > > > news on july 25th. > > > > > > > > The news item showed some places in mayiladuthurai ( 15 kms > from > > > > Vaitheeswaran koil) where naadi leafs were " prepared " . Here, > > leafs > > > > were washed in some special liquid and later someone scribles > on > > > > them , so that it looks like an ancient leaf,the ones which the > > > naadi > > > > readers have, the ones from which layman or a tamil expert can > > > > decipher anything. The person in charge of doing this > preparation > > > has > > > > confessed on TV. > > > > > > > > The person who made this expose is the wife of another naadi > > > > enthusiast turned naadi critic. This person was reportedly > duped > > by > > > a > > > > leading naadi reader in V.Koil - sivasami( who claims to do > this > > > > profession for generations), when he took the thumb impression > of > > > > dead man he predicted that he would live a very long life etc. > > > > Out of frustration, they have investigated the secret behind > > > > this ,and exposed it to Sun TV news channel. This seems to be > the > > > > same person who put a case on sivasami and was absonding for > some > > > > time out of fear.. > > > > > > > > The question now is,how many naadi readers have resorted to > such > > > > measures and are there any readers at all who are genuine ?. > > > > > > > > If at all the naadi readers are using rules in naadi astrology( > > as > > > > suspected) to make predictions from horoscopes( just like > > ordinary > > > > astrologers) why cant they accept it,instead of making people > > > believe > > > > that they are reading from ancient leafs which were written > > > > specifically for the person who has come? > > > > > > > > > > > > It is a sad day for naadi astrology but this should be the wake > > up > > > > call for many of us not to get duped. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 Dear Sebastian, Just because of some fake readers, you shouldn't tell that all are fake. Pls don't propogate comments until you specify that it is your personal ! What do u know about Jeevanadi ? How Sage Agasthya comes to Hanumathdasan is a secret which no one knows. If you believe it, pls believe otherwise leave it don't say that it is fake. If you cannot introspect and find out how the miracle is happening, pls don't judge it is fake !!! If Hanumath dasan could solve 98% of personal problems to all readers, then too he is doing his job better ! One should not spoon feed the solutions he is doing to society. However, this social work is appreaciated by Agasthya maharishi himself hence, He is directing all visitors to perform certain puja and overcome the troubles faced. If one cannot believe and still asks why it is not happening, then it is strong karma which is restricting them to get suitable solutions ! Pls note that we have 3 karmic bonds; Sanjitha, Prarbtha and Akamiya. Unless one nullify all of three, the birth & death cycle will continue.... Maharishis only know the answer but you should be having 100% faith and should not ask why it is not happen whenever they provide solutions. They will help you to overcome the burden with your consistent faith and dedicated. Do you think within a day can we construct a house ? within a week can a child be born ? everything has its own time ! Similarly, just because your aunt did not get solution, you cannot presume he is fake ! How much your Aunt was dedicated to Agasthya Maharishi and how many time she has performed Annadhanam in her life ????? MEMBERS, I hereby inform all of you is to nullify Karmic debts (mentioned above), one has to feed poor as Annadhana EQUIVALENT TO FOOD HE HAS CONSUMED IN THIS BIRTH !!!! (ie., QUANTITY OF FOOD EATEN = QUANTITY OF FOOD TO BE FED TO POOR) If everyone of you understand the above stanza, I am sure that everyone of you can lead a VERY HAPPY AND PEACEFUL life !!! Try this and let me know. Until then, pls stop approaching fake astrologers and don't underestimate anyone just because of your personal experience. All are good and there are bad people around us! With divine's blessings only we can over come this. Thanks Sebastian, because of you only, I am sharing all the details. With Guru Agasthya Maharishi's blessings, adiyen AUM On 8/10/08, jsebastian88 <jsebastian88 wrote: there are many frauds going around in v koil with name of poosamuthuand gemini selvaraj. so becarefull. they are waiting in bus stand tobrain wash the visitors and compel the visitors to come to their nadi astrology centers. i also beleive hanumanth dasan the jeeva nadiastrologer is also fake. he is lieing to people. and writes too muchof unbelivable story in news papers. i am quite skeptical about jeevanadi too. how come one can talk to sage agastya. this is much of scientific fantasy. i believe ordinary nadi but not jeeva nadi. , " sanjeev2475 " <sanjeev2475 wrote:>> vishwanath,> I happened to go to VKoil temple last week.> About 3 years back I had my naadi reading in Poosamuthu center,when I > fully trusted naadi reading, and I had done all the 'parigaram' > suggested by them. Yet, the predictions given by them didn't happen. > I went to ask them about this since I had gone to the temple also. > The reply I got was honest but ambigous, saying that the time of > happenings may vary etc. , you can wait for somemore time otherwise > we can look at another kandam called 'santhega kandam'. The reader > also tried to bring out my chart from the notebook , I asked him " > why are you using astrology, even I know astrology, I came bcos you > have the leafs, if you are interpreting the horoscope then I can do > it as well " . Then he was surprised and anwered ambiguously. He also > said " since you know astrology, dont go to any naadi reader , the > predictions done in astrology are as good as this. SO predict > yourself since you know astrology " . I liked this reply as it was > surprisingly honest, but it has shattered all the myths on the > greatness of naadi ,I feel.This is in posamuthu naadi center which is > the most reputed in V.Koil and all of tamil nadu for several > decades !! He does nt give commission since people go to him > automatically bcos of his fame. So you can imagine the state of other > reader.> > > You are also writing about hanumanthadasans' jeeva naadi. > I know of a few people who have been to him and his predictions have > also not worked out for them. My aunt is one of them. WHen she asked > him " I have done all the remedy suggested by you, why has nt your > predictions worked " . He became a little angry and replied " this is > fate, your karma is still not overcome, if you dont believe me dont > come here " . He was the person who suggested previously that doing > parigasram would solve the problem within a certain time etc...> > So I think no one can be trusted.> > > , viswanath gopi <vis_tamil@> > wrote:> >> > dear Mr. Sanjeev ,> > > > indeed yes ! i don't think so that the police would act in a very > sincere manner , a year before . during my visit to the temple v > koil and the other nearby temple , we took a taxi from a nearby > terminus.the taxi driver narrated a situation which is similar to > the july 25 th incident ( telecasted on sun news). and he also > requested us not to trust on those naadi readers . at one point he > disclosed a matter that . if a taxi driver parks his car or takes > his passenger to a nearby naadi centre. he will be paid 200 - 500 by > the naadi reader as a commission amount. > > > > moreover all these news are to be highlighted so that the public > would get awareness on fake and genuine . i was really surprised to > know that all the palm leaves are been made ready and words are been > written on it in the nearby town of mayiladuthurai later they are > taken to the naadi centres where the readers claim that those are > written by maharishis in ancient tamil . > > > > regards > > > > viswanath > > > > chennai > > > > sanjeev2475 <sanjeev2475@> wrote:> > Vishwanath,> > i dont think police will take any action unless there is high level > > presure from ministers etc.> > > > During my trips to V.Koil, i have personally seen policemen coming > > and getting 'something' from a leading naadi center there. The > > constable was talking to the owners son, saying that there are > > expenses and a new Sub-inspector has come, so we need some amount > now > > and this guy took him inside. Both of them were talking in a very > > friendly manner as though they were buddies. So it looks like the > > police are hand in glove with the naadi guys. Im not pretty sure, > but > > otherwise why will a policeman ask the naadi center owner for > > money ?, the center is runnign in a portion of their own house, > there > > is no enchroachment etc. , so there is no need for them to ask > money. > > But, it may be that this a routine collection from all centers > there, > > just like police collect 'somthing' from shops in the bazaar in > > cities, whether the shopkeeper is genuine or not. > > > > , " viswanath.g " <vis_tamil@> > > wrote:> > >> > > > > > a wild applauze from my side Mr. sanjeev. i'm really happy that > you > > > have brought out a valuable mail. i hope the clippig wud be > loaded > > in > > > youtube very soon . i have seen the news at late night . anyways > ur > > > mail is very worth . i have come across few people who have said > > that > > > some naadi readers are fake. but the person has launched a > > complaint > > > to the police.let us see whatm happens next..> > > > > > regards> > > > > > viswanath> > > > > > chennai > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sanjeev2475 " > > > <sanjeev2475@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Hi group members,> > > > Im not a naadi critic but,> > > > There was a sensational expose on naadi practices around the > > > capital > > > > of naadi astrology V.Koil in tamil Nadu in the tamil news > channel > > > sun > > > > news on july 25th.> > > > > > > > The news item showed some places in mayiladuthurai ( 15 kms > from > > > > Vaitheeswaran koil) where naadi leafs were " prepared " . Here, > > leafs > > > > were washed in some special liquid and later someone scribles > on > > > > them , so that it looks like an ancient leaf,the ones which the > > > naadi > > > > readers have, the ones from which layman or a tamil expert can > > > > decipher anything. The person in charge of doing this > preparation > > > has > > > > confessed on TV.> > > > > > > > The person who made this expose is the wife of another naadi > > > > enthusiast turned naadi critic. This person was reportedly > duped > > by > > > a > > > > leading naadi reader in V.Koil - sivasami( who claims to do > this > > > > profession for generations), when he took the thumb impression > of > > > > dead man he predicted that he would live a very long life etc.> > > > Out of frustration, they have investigated the secret behind > > > > this ,and exposed it to Sun TV news channel. This seems to be > the > > > > same person who put a case on sivasami and was absonding for > some > > > > time out of fear..> > > > > > > > The question now is,how many naadi readers have resorted to > such > > > > measures and are there any readers at all who are genuine ?.> > > > > > > > If at all the naadi readers are using rules in naadi astrology( > > as > > > > suspected) to make predictions from horoscopes( just like > > ordinary > > > > astrologers) why cant they accept it,instead of making people > > > believe > > > > that they are reading from ancient leafs which were written > > > > specifically for the person who has come?> > > > > > > > > > > > It is a sad day for naadi astrology but this should be the wake > > up > > > > call for many of us not to get duped. > > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 Hanumath Dasan's readings may be true. i can't comment on that but suerly he is not doing social service. Is he doing the prediction free of cost to everyone on humanity's sake?. To save the people from dreaded diseases and problems?. he is charging exhorbitantly for his predictions from "n" number of people daily. That itself proves that he has commercialized his practices.Thank you, Sincerly, S. Hariharan hariharan From: sriagasthiarDate: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 13:48:54 +0530Re: Re: NAADI EXPOSE on sun news- july 25th Dear Sebastian, Just because of some fake readers, you shouldn't tell that all are fake. Pls don't propogate comments until you specify that it is your personal ! What do u know about Jeevanadi ? How Sage Agasthya comes to Hanumathdasan is a secret which no one knows. If you believe it, pls believe otherwise leave it don't say that it is fake. If you cannot introspect and find out how the miracle is happening, pls don't judge it is fake !!! If Hanumath dasan could solve 98% of personal problems to all readers, then too he is doing his job better ! One should not spoon feed the solutions he is doing to society. However, this social work is appreaciated by Agasthya maharishi himself hence, He is directing all visitors to perform certain puja and overcome the troubles faced. If one cannot believe and still asks why it is not happening, then it is strong karma which is restricting them to get suitable solutions ! Pls note that we have 3 karmic bonds; Sanjitha, Prarbtha and Akamiya. Unless one nullify all of three, the birth & death cycle will continue.... Maharishis only know the answer but you should be having 100% faith and should not ask why it is not happen whenever they provide solutions. They will help you to overcome the burden with your consistent faith and dedicated. Do you think within a day can we construct a house ? within a week can a child be born ? everything has its own time ! Similarly, just because your aunt did not get solution, you cannot presume he is fake ! How much your Aunt was dedicated to Agasthya Maharishi and how many time she has performed Annadhanam in her life ????? MEMBERS, I hereby inform all of you is to nullify Karmic debts (mentioned above), one has to feed poor as Annadhana EQUIVALENT TO FOOD HE HAS CONSUMED IN THIS BIRTH !!!! (ie., QUANTITY OF FOOD EATEN = QUANTITY OF FOOD TO BE FED TO POOR) If everyone of you understand the above stanza, I am sure that everyone of you can lead a VERY HAPPY AND PEACEFUL life !!! Try this and let me know. Until then, pls stop approaching fake astrologers and don't underestimate anyone just because of your personal experience. All are good and there are bad people around us! With divine's blessings only we can over come this. Thanks Sebastian, because of you only, I am sharing all the details. With Guru Agasthya Maharishi's blessings, adiyen AUM On 8/10/08, jsebastian88 <jsebastian88 > wrote: there are many frauds going around in v koil with name of poosamuthuand gemini selvaraj. so becarefull. they are waiting in bus stand tobrain wash the visitors and compel the visitors to come to their nadiastrology centers. i also beleive hanumanth dasan the jeeva nadiastrologer is also fake. he is lieing to people. and writes too muchof unbelivable story in news papers. i am quite skeptical about jeevanadi too. how come one can talk to sage agastya. this is much ofscientific fantasy. i believe ordinary nadi but not jeeva nadi. , "sanjeev2475" <sanjeev2475wrote:>> vishwanath,> I happened to go to VKoil temple last week.> About 3 years back I had my naadi reading in Poosamuthu center,when I > fully trusted naadi reading, and I had done all the 'parigaram' > suggested by them. Yet, the predictions given by them didn't happen. > I went to ask them about this since I had gone to the temple also. > The reply I got was honest but ambigous, saying that the time of > happenings may vary etc. , you can wait for somemore time otherwise > we can look at another kandam called 'santhega kandam'. The reader > also tried to bring out my chart from the notebook , I asked him " > why are you using astrology, even I know astrology, I came bcos you > have the leafs, if you are interpreting the horoscope then I can do > it as well". Then he was surprised and anwered ambiguously. He also > said "since you know astrology, dont go to any naadi reader , the > predictions done in astrology are as good as this. SO predict > yourself since you know astrology". I liked this reply as it was > surprisingly honest, but it has shattered all the myths on the > greatness of naadi ,I feel.This is in posamuthu naadi center which is > the most reputed in V.Koil and all of tamil nadu for several > decades !! He does nt give commission since people go to him > automatically bcos of his fame. So you can imagine the state of other > reader.> > > You are also writing about hanumanthadasans' jeeva naadi.> I know of a few people who have been to him and his predictions have > also not worked out for them. My aunt is one of them. WHen she asked > him "I have done all the remedy suggested by you, why has nt your > predictions worked". He became a little angry and replied "this is > fate, your karma is still not overcome, if you dont believe me dont > come here". He was the person who suggested previously that doing > parigasram would solve the problem within a certain time etc...> > So I think no one can be trusted.> > > , viswanath gopi <vis_tamil@> > wrote:> >> > dear Mr. Sanjeev ,> > > > indeed yes ! i don't think so that the police would act in a very > sincere manner , a year before . during my visit to the temple v > koil and the other nearby temple , we took a taxi from a nearby > terminus.the taxi driver narrated a situation which is similar to > the july 25 th incident ( telecasted on sun news). and he also > requested us not to trust on those naadi readers . at one point he > disclosed a matter that . if a taxi driver parks his car or takes > his passenger to a nearby naadi centre. he will be paid 200 - 500 by > the naadi reader as a commission amount. > > > > moreover all these news are to be highlighted so that the public > would get awareness on fake and genuine . i was really surprised to > know that all the palm leaves are been made ready and words are been > written on it in the nearby town of mayiladuthurai later they are > taken to the naadi centres where the readers claim that those are > written by maharishis in ancient tamil . > > > > regards > > > > viswanath > > > > chennai > > > > sanjeev2475 <sanjeev2475@> wrote:> > Vishwanath,> > i dont think police will take any action unless there is high level > > presure from ministers etc.> > > > During my trips to V.Koil, i have personally seen policemen coming > > and getting 'something' from a leading naadi center there. The > > constable was talking to the owners son, saying that there are > > expenses and a new Sub-inspector has come, so we need some amount > now > > and this guy took him inside. Both of them were talking in a very > > friendly manner as though they were buddies. So it looks like the > > police are hand in glove with the naadi guys. Im not pretty sure, > but > > otherwise why will a policeman ask the naadi center owner for > > money ?, the center is runnign in a portion of their own house, > there > > is no enchroachment etc. , so there is no need for them to ask > money. > > But, it may be that this a routine collection from all centers > there, > > just like police collect 'somthing' from shops in the bazaar in > > cities, whether the shopkeeper is genuine or not. > > > > , "viswanath.g" <vis_tamil@> > > wrote:> > >> > > > > > a wild applauze from my side Mr. sanjeev. i'm really happy that > you > > > have brought out a valuable mail. i hope the clippig wud be > loaded > > in > > > youtube very soon . i have seen the news at late night . anyways > ur > > > mail is very worth . i have come across few people who have said > > that > > > some naadi readers are fake. but the person has launched a > > complaint > > > to the police.let us see whatm happens next..> > > > > > regards> > > > > > viswanath> > > > > > chennai > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "sanjeev2475" > > > <sanjeev2475@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Hi group members,> > > > Im not a naadi critic but,> > > > There was a sensational expose on naadi practices around the > > > capital > > > > of naadi astrology V.Koil in tamil Nadu in the tamil news > channel > > > sun > > > > news on july 25th.> > > > > > > > The news item showed some places in mayiladuthurai ( 15 kms > from > > > > Vaitheeswaran koil) where naadi leafs were "prepared". Here, > > leafs > > > > were washed in some special liquid and later someone scribles > on > > > > them , so that it looks like an ancient leaf,the ones which the > > > naadi > > > > readers have, the ones from which layman or a tamil expert can > > > > decipher anything. The person in charge of doing this > preparation > > > has > > > > confessed on TV.> > > > > > > > The person who made this expose is the wife of another naadi > > > > enthusiast turned naadi critic. This person was reportedly > duped > > by > > > a > > > > leading naadi reader in V.Koil - sivasami( who claims to do > this > > > > profession for generations), when he took the thumb impression > of > > > > dead man he predicted that he would live a very long life etc.> > > > Out of frustration, they have investigated the secret behind > > > > this ,and exposed it to Sun TV news channel. This seems to be > the > > > > same person who put a case on sivasami and was absonding for > some > > > > time out of fear..> > > > > > > > The question now is,how many naadi readers have resorted to > such > > > > measures and are there any readers at all who are genuine ?.> > > > > > > > If at all the naadi readers are using rules in naadi astrology( > > as > > > > suspected) to make predictions from horoscopes( just like > > ordinary > > > > astrologers) why cant they accept it,instead of making people > > > believe > > > > that they are reading from ancient leafs which were written > > > > specifically for the person who has come?> > > > > > > > > > > > It is a sad day for naadi astrology but this should be the wake > > up > > > > call for many of us not to get duped.> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2008 Report Share Posted August 11, 2008 mr hariharan , u r an educated person . u should have some commonsense. why should he not charge huge money ? tommorow if he gets some desease and needs lacks of rupees for treatment , then will u give him that much money ? if he wants to buy a house , will u give him lacks of rupees for that ? so it is perfectly all right to ask for huge money . ofcourse he should give authentic predictions and not fake ones. if he gives authentic prediction for huge fees , it is all right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2008 Report Share Posted August 11, 2008 Dear Hariharan, I do not think Hanumanth Dasan is compelling his clients to pay his fees.It is upto the client to pay or not to pay.There is always a class of customers who can afford and are willing to pay for the predictions and that is how Dasan is carrying on his business. I think both the clients and Shri Dasan are bound to each other by Karmic debts.Only such clients would go to Dasan as are destined to fill the coffers of Dasan. How do you know that Dasan is not doing social service ? For all that he may be a mere instrument for exacting bad money or ill gotten wealth beyond the reach of IT raids ! We also do not know for certain if Dasan gives a part of his income in charities or for some good social cause without making any noise like a an ideal donor. The issue has many facets which are too complex to be understood or explained rationally.Let us therefore not sit in Vikramaditya's Judgment Throne and try to give justice.As humans, we are not KNOW ALL " Regds, VBD R --- Hariharan S <hariharan_sm wrote: > > Hanumath Dasan's readings may be true. i can't > comment on that but suerly he is not doing social > service. Is he doing the prediction free of cost to > everyone on humanity's sake?. To save the people > from dreaded diseases and problems?. he is charging > exhorbitantly for his predictions from " n " number of > people daily. That itself proves that he has > commercialized his practices.Thank you, Sincerly, > S. Hariharan hariharan > > : > sriagasthiar: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 > 13:48:54 +0530Re: Re: > NAADI EXPOSE on sun news- july 25th > > > > > > Dear Sebastian, > > Just because of some fake readers, you shouldn't > tell that all are fake. > > Pls don't propogate comments until you specify that > it is your personal ! > > What do u know about Jeevanadi ? How Sage Agasthya > comes to Hanumathdasan > is a secret which no one knows. If you believe it, > pls believe otherwise leave it don't > say that it is fake. If you cannot introspect and > find out how the miracle is happening, > pls don't judge it is fake !!! > > If Hanumath dasan could solve 98% of personal > problems to all readers, then too he is > doing his job better ! One should not spoon feed the > solutions he is doing to society. > However, this social work is appreaciated by > Agasthya maharishi himself hence, He > is directing all visitors to perform certain puja > and overcome the troubles faced. If one > cannot believe and still asks why it is not > happening, then it is strong karma which is > restricting them to get suitable solutions ! > > Pls note that we have 3 karmic bonds; Sanjitha, > Prarbtha and Akamiya. Unless > one nullify all of three, the birth & death cycle > will continue.... Maharishis only know > the answer but you should be having 100% faith and > should not ask why it is not happen > whenever they provide solutions. They will help you > to overcome the burden with your > consistent faith and dedicated. Do you think within > a day can we construct a house ? > within a week can a child be born ? everything has > its own time ! Similarly, just because > your aunt did not get solution, you cannot presume > he is fake ! How much your Aunt was > dedicated to Agasthya Maharishi and how many time > she has performed Annadhanam in > her life ????? > > > MEMBERS, I hereby inform all of you is to nullify > Karmic debts (mentioned above), one > has to feed poor as Annadhana EQUIVALENT TO FOOD HE > HAS CONSUMED IN THIS BIRTH !!!! > > (ie., QUANTITY OF FOOD EATEN = QUANTITY OF FOOD TO > BE FED TO POOR) > > If everyone of you understand the above stanza, I am > sure that everyone of you can lead a VERY > HAPPY AND PEACEFUL life !!! > > Try this and let me know. Until then, pls stop > approaching fake astrologers and don't underestimate > anyone just because of your personal experience. All > are good and there are bad people around us! > > With divine's blessings only we can over come this. > Thanks Sebastian, because of you only, I am > sharing all the details. > > With Guru Agasthya Maharishi's blessings, > > adiyen > > AUM > On 8/10/08, jsebastian88 <jsebastian88 > wrote: > > > > > > there are many frauds going around in v koil with > name of poosamuthuand gemini selvaraj. so > becarefull. they are waiting in bus stand tobrain > wash the visitors and compel the visitors to come to > their nadiastrology centers. i also beleive > hanumanth dasan the jeeva nadiastrologer is also > fake. he is lieing to people. and writes too muchof > unbelivable story in news papers. i am quite > skeptical about jeevanadi too. how come one can talk > to sage agastya. this is much ofscientific fantasy. > i believe ordinary nadi but not jeeva nadi. > , " sanjeev2475 " > <sanjeev2475wrote:>> vishwanath,> I happened to > go to VKoil temple last week.> About 3 years back I > had my naadi reading in Poosamuthu center,when I > > fully trusted naadi reading, and I had done all the > 'parigaram' > suggested by them. Yet, the > predictions given by them didn't happen. > I went to > ask them about this since I had gone to the temple > also. > The reply I got was honest but ambigous, > saying that the time of > happenings may vary etc. , > you can wait for somemore time otherwise > we can > look at another kandam called 'santhega kandam'. The > reader > also tried to bring out my chart from the > notebook , I asked him " > why are you using > astrology, even I know astrology, I came bcos you > > have the leafs, if you are interpreting the > horoscope then I can do > it as well " . Then he was > surprised and anwered ambiguously. He also > said > " since you know astrology, dont go to any naadi > reader , the > predictions done in astrology are as > good as this. SO predict > yourself since you know > astrology " . I liked this reply as it was > > surprisingly honest, but it has shattered all the > myths on the > greatness of naadi ,I feel.This is in > posamuthu naadi center which is > the most reputed > in V.Koil and all of tamil nadu for several > > decades !! He does nt give commission since people > go to him > automatically bcos of his fame. So you > can imagine the state of other > reader.> > > You > are also writing about hanumanthadasans' jeeva > naadi.> I know of a few people who have been to him > and his predictions have > also not worked out for > them. My aunt is one of them. WHen she asked > him > " I have done all the remedy suggested by you, why > has nt your > predictions worked " . He became a > little angry and replied " this is > fate, your karma > is still not overcome, if you dont believe me dont > > come here " . He was the person who suggested > previously that doing > parigasram would solve the > problem within a certain time etc...> > So I think > no one can be trusted.> > > --- In > , viswanath gopi > <vis_tamil@> > wrote:> >> > dear Mr. Sanjeev ,> > > > > indeed yes ! i don't think so that the police > would act in a very > sincere manner , a year before > . during my visit to the temple v > koil and the > other nearby temple , we took a taxi from a nearby > > terminus.the taxi driver narrated a situation which > is similar to > the july 25 th incident ( telecasted > on sun news). and he also > requested us not to > trust on those naadi readers . at one point he > > disclosed a matter that . if a taxi driver parks his > car or takes > his passenger to a nearby naadi > centre. he will be paid 200 - 500 by > the naadi > reader as a commission amount. > > > > moreover all > these news are to be highlighted so that the public > > would get awareness on fake and genuine . i was > really surprised to > know that all the palm leaves > are been made ready and words are been > written on > it in the nearby town of mayiladuthurai later they > are > taken to the naadi centres where the readers > claim that those are > written by maharishis in > ancient tamil . > > > > regards > > > > viswanath > > > > > chennai > > > > sanjeev2475 <sanjeev2475@> > wrote:> > Vishwanath,> > i dont think police will > take any action unless there is high level > > > presure from ministers etc.> > > > During my trips > to V.Koil, i have personally seen policemen coming > > > and getting 'something' from a leading naadi > center there. The > > constable was talking to the > owners son, saying that there are > > expenses and a > new Sub-inspector has come, so we need some amount > > now > > and this guy took him inside. Both of them > were talking in a very > > friendly manner as though > they were buddies. So it looks like the > > police > are hand in glove with the naadi guys. Im not pretty > sure, > but > > otherwise why will a policeman ask > the naadi center owner for > > money ?, the center > is runnign in a portion of their own house, > there > > > is no enchroachment etc. , so there is no need > for them to ask > money. > > But, it may be that > this a routine collection from all centers > there, > > > just like police collect 'somthing' from shops > in the bazaar in > > cities, whether the shopkeeper > is genuine or not. > > > > --- In > , " viswanath.g " > <vis_tamil@> > > wrote:> > >> > > > > > a wild > applauze from my side Mr. sanjeev. i'm really happy > that > you > > > have brought out a valuable mail. i > hope the clippig wud be > loaded > > in > > > > youtube === message truncated === Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 I think we need to understand that " social service " means service to society without profit motive while " charitable services " are free of cost and out of pocket. I think anyone doing service is perfectly allowed to cover cost of expenses and compensation for their troubles. , Hariharan S <hariharan_sm wrote: > > > Hanumath Dasan's readings may be true. i can't comment on that but suerly he is not doing social service. Is he doing the prediction free of cost to everyone on humanity's sake?. To save the people from dreaded diseases and problems?. he is charging exhorbitantly for his predictions from " n " number of people daily. That itself proves that he has commercialized his practices.Thank you, Sincerly, S. Hariharan hariharan > > : sriagasthiar: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 13:48:54 +0530Re: Re: NAADI EXPOSE on sun news- july 25th > > > > > > Dear Sebastian, > > Just because of some fake readers, you shouldn't tell that all are fake. > > Pls don't propogate comments until you specify that it is your personal ! > > What do u know about Jeevanadi ? How Sage Agasthya comes to Hanumathdasan > is a secret which no one knows. If you believe it, pls believe otherwise leave it don't > say that it is fake. If you cannot introspect and find out how the miracle is happening, > pls don't judge it is fake !!! > > If Hanumath dasan could solve 98% of personal problems to all readers, then too he is > doing his job better ! One should not spoon feed the solutions he is doing to society. > However, this social work is appreaciated by Agasthya maharishi himself hence, He > is directing all visitors to perform certain puja and overcome the troubles faced. If one > cannot believe and still asks why it is not happening, then it is strong karma which is > restricting them to get suitable solutions ! > > Pls note that we have 3 karmic bonds; Sanjitha, Prarbtha and Akamiya. Unless > one nullify all of three, the birth & death cycle will continue.... Maharishis only know > the answer but you should be having 100% faith and should not ask why it is not happen > whenever they provide solutions. They will help you to overcome the burden with your > consistent faith and dedicated. Do you think within a day can we construct a house ? > within a week can a child be born ? everything has its own time ! Similarly, just because > your aunt did not get solution, you cannot presume he is fake ! How much your Aunt was > dedicated to Agasthya Maharishi and how many time she has performed Annadhanam in > her life ????? > > > MEMBERS, I hereby inform all of you is to nullify Karmic debts (mentioned above), one > has to feed poor as Annadhana EQUIVALENT TO FOOD HE HAS CONSUMED IN THIS BIRTH !!!! > > (ie., QUANTITY OF FOOD EATEN = QUANTITY OF FOOD TO BE FED TO POOR) > > If everyone of you understand the above stanza, I am sure that everyone of you can lead a VERY > HAPPY AND PEACEFUL life !!! > > Try this and let me know. Until then, pls stop approaching fake astrologers and don't underestimate > anyone just because of your personal experience. All are good and there are bad people around us! > > With divine's blessings only we can over come this. Thanks Sebastian, because of you only, I am > sharing all the details. > > With Guru Agasthya Maharishi's blessings, > > adiyen > > AUM > On 8/10/08, jsebastian88 <jsebastian88 wrote: > > > > > > there are many frauds going around in v koil with name of poosamuthuand gemini selvaraj. so becarefull. they are waiting in bus stand tobrain wash the visitors and compel the visitors to come to their nadiastrology centers. i also beleive hanumanth dasan the jeeva nadiastrologer is also fake. he is lieing to people. and writes too muchof unbelivable story in news papers. i am quite skeptical about jeevanadi too. how come one can talk to sage agastya. this is much ofscientific fantasy. i believe ordinary nadi but not jeeva nadi. > , " sanjeev2475 " <sanjeev2475@>wrote:>> vishwanath,> I happened to go to VKoil temple last week.> About 3 years back I had my naadi reading in Poosamuthu center,when I > fully trusted naadi reading, and I had done all the 'parigaram' > suggested by them. Yet, the predictions given by them didn't happen. > I went to ask them about this since I had gone to the temple also. > The reply I got was honest but ambigous, saying that the time of > happenings may vary etc. , you can wait for somemore time otherwise > we can look at another kandam called 'santhega kandam'. The reader > also tried to bring out my chart from the notebook , I asked him " > why are you using astrology, even I know astrology, I came bcos you > have the leafs, if you are interpreting the horoscope then I can do > it as well " . Then he was surprised and anwered ambiguously. He also > said " since you know astrology, dont go to any naadi reader , the > predictions done in astrology are as good as this. SO predict > yourself since you know astrology " . I liked this reply as it was > surprisingly honest, but it has shattered all the myths on the > greatness of naadi ,I feel.This is in posamuthu naadi center which is > the most reputed in V.Koil and all of tamil nadu for several > decades !! He does nt give commission since people go to him > automatically bcos of his fame. So you can imagine the state of other > reader.> > > You are also writing about hanumanthadasans' jeeva naadi.> I know of a few people who have been to him and his predictions have > also not worked out for them. My aunt is one of them. WHen she asked > him " I have done all the remedy suggested by you, why has nt your > predictions worked " . He became a little angry and replied " this is > fate, your karma is still not overcome, if you dont believe me dont > come here " . He was the person who suggested previously that doing > parigasram would solve the problem within a certain time etc...> > So I think no one can be trusted.> > > --- In , viswanath gopi <vis_tamil@> > wrote:> >> > dear Mr. Sanjeev ,> > > > indeed yes ! i don't think so that the police would act in a very > sincere manner , a year before . during my visit to the temple v > koil and the other nearby temple , we took a taxi from a nearby > terminus.the taxi driver narrated a situation which is similar to > the july 25 th incident ( telecasted on sun news). and he also > requested us not to trust on those naadi readers . at one point he > disclosed a matter that . if a taxi driver parks his car or takes > his passenger to a nearby naadi centre. he will be paid 200 - 500 by > the naadi reader as a commission amount. > > > > moreover all these news are to be highlighted so that the public > would get awareness on fake and genuine . i was really surprised to > know that all the palm leaves are been made ready and words are been > written on it in the nearby town of mayiladuthurai later they are > taken to the naadi centres where the readers claim that those are > written by maharishis in ancient tamil . > > > > regards > > > > viswanath > > > > chennai > > > > sanjeev2475 <sanjeev2475@> wrote:> > Vishwanath,> > i dont think police will take any action unless there is high level > > presure from ministers etc.> > > > During my trips to V.Koil, i have personally seen policemen coming > > and getting 'something' from a leading naadi center there. The > > constable was talking to the owners son, saying that there are > > expenses and a new Sub- inspector has come, so we need some amount > now > > and this guy took him inside. Both of them were talking in a very > > friendly manner as though they were buddies. So it looks like the > > police are hand in glove with the naadi guys. Im not pretty sure, > but > > otherwise why will a policeman ask the naadi center owner for > > money ?, the center is runnign in a portion of their own house, > there > > is no enchroachment etc. , so there is no need for them to ask > money. > > But, it may be that this a routine collection from all centers > there, > > just like police collect 'somthing' from shops in the bazaar in > > cities, whether the shopkeeper is genuine or not. > > > > , " viswanath.g " <vis_tamil@> > > wrote:> > >> > > > > > a wild applauze from my side Mr. sanjeev. i'm really happy that > you > > > have brought out a valuable mail. i hope the clippig wud be > loaded > > in > > > youtube very soon . i have seen the news at late night . anyways > ur > > > mail is very worth . i have come across few people who have said > > that > > > some naadi readers are fake. but the person has launched a > > complaint > > > to the police.let us see whatm happens next..> > > > > > regards> > > > > > viswanath> > > > > > chennai > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , " sanjeev2475 " > > > <sanjeev2475@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Hi group members,> > > > Im not a naadi critic but,> > > > There was a sensational expose on naadi practices around the > > > capital > > > > of naadi astrology V.Koil in tamil Nadu in the tamil news > channel > > > sun > > > > news on july 25th.> > > > > > > > The news item showed some places in mayiladuthurai ( 15 kms > from > > > > Vaitheeswaran koil) where naadi leafs were " prepared " . Here, > > leafs > > > > were washed in some special liquid and later someone scribles > on > > > > them , so that it looks like an ancient leaf,the ones which the > > > naadi > > > > readers have, the ones from which layman or a tamil expert can > > > > decipher anything. The person in charge of doing this > preparation > > > has > > > > confessed on TV.> > > > > > > > The person who made this expose is the wife of another naadi > > > > enthusiast turned naadi critic. This person was reportedly > duped > > by > > > a > > > > leading naadi reader in V.Koil - sivasami( who claims to do > this > > > > profession for generations), when he took the thumb impression > of > > > > dead man he predicted that he would live a very long life etc.> > > > Out of frustration, they have investigated the secret behind > > > > this ,and exposed it to Sun TV news channel. This seems to be > the > > > > same person who put a case on sivasami and was absonding for > some > > > > time out of fear..> > > > > > > > The question now is,how many naadi readers have resorted to > such > > > > measures and are there any readers at all who are genuine ?.> > > > > > > > If at all the naadi readers are using rules in naadi astrology( > > as > > > > suspected) to make predictions from horoscopes( just like > > ordinary > > > > astrologers) why cant they accept it,instead of making people > > > believe > > > > that they are reading from ancient leafs which were written > > > > specifically for the person who has come?> > > > > > > > > > > > It is a sad day for naadi astrology but this should be the wake > > up > > > > call for many of us not to get duped.> > > >> > >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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