Guest guest Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Hi, May I know whether has anybody visited agathiyar durai subburathinam chief Naadi Astrologer in Chennai ? Will appreciate if you can share your experience. Regards, Leslie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2008 Report Share Posted July 15, 2008 there are many experiences about " durai subburathinam " . Please search for it in the group postings. , " Leslie Neo " <leslieneo2103 wrote: > > Hi, > May I know whether has anybody visited agathiyar durai subburathinam > chief Naadi Astrologer in Chennai ? > > Will appreciate if you can share your experience. > > Regards, > Leslie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2008 Report Share Posted July 15, 2008 Hi, My mom visted this durai Subburathinam 5 years back. He had predicated lot of things.Everything was vague. But offlate i took the script and read it said my mothers brother would have a good family life and a lot of colourful things on him. FYI: Just heard the news he lost his wife today morning.He as a 11 months old baby! I donno may be in our case his predictions have never come true~ Even other things predicted never happened. May be things happen by luck also! Thanks!--- On Mon, 14/7/08, Leslie Neo <leslieneo2103 wrote: Leslie Neo <leslieneo2103 Naadi Astrologer in Chennai Date: Monday, 14 July, 2008, 5:48 PM Hi,May I know whether has anybody visited agathiyar durai subburathinamchief Naadi Astrologer in Chennai ?Will appreciate if you can share your experience.Regards,Leslie Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2008 Report Share Posted July 15, 2008 Hi Leslie , Yes ...I have visited this center. I can only talk of my experience which may differ from many others. My experience was not a pleasant one. While the reader who read the leaf I went for was okay but the charges "tripled" by the time it was translated and a new person was sent to read the translations written for my hard copy. The tall in-house English language translator was mainly hovering around shanti deeksha and its importance. I was getting strong indirect signals to have it done by the center. My tamil speaking friend who accompanied me in Cennai also overhead the translator saying that I should be charged more. The Naadi idetification process was correct initially but when translation on the book was read it had few errors which shook my confidence in the staff working there. I did remind them on the pious work they were doing and requested them to be mindful of the opportunity they had in reading the great work of the Maharishis. This did make them stick to their original charges. I am assuming that the charges simply trebled due to me being a foreigner.Many may say that we have a higher earning capacity thus shud pay more. I also hope the same 'many' arrange better seating in the 6ft waiting verandah before the opening of the service and suggest for a cleaner waiting room for 'triple' paying customers. I did not proceed with other three reading which I had planned for. Maybe the maharishis realised the potential of me being fleeced thus had me leave after the first one. My recomendation to you Leslie is to go there early in the morning , be prepared to be standing for some time and clarify charges during thumb impressions. Make sure you go with a local who can speak your language and the local one also......that is if you decide to go ! There are many other reputable centres in naadi so pls check the forum database and buy the book written by Shashikant Oak which will cost you on 99Rupees which has many addresses. I pray that you do find the intended leaves. regards. --- On Mon, 14/7/08, Leslie Neo <leslieneo2103 wrote: Leslie Neo <leslieneo2103 Naadi Astrologer in Chennai Received: Monday, 14 July, 2008, 10:18 PM Hi,May I know whether has anybody visited agathiyar durai subburathinamchief Naadi Astrologer in Chennai ?Will appreciate if you can share your experience.Regards,Leslie Start at the new 7 for a better online experience - Start Here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 I visited this Tambaram centre and my experience was good.I got a impression that they are genuine. The fees were nominal for Tamil to English translation.Shanti deeksha suggested visits to few ancient temples. Suugest give a try. Arrive before 8.30 am on any day. No appointments. You HAVE to provide only thumb impression and no other details will be asked. , Sunny Sunny <sunnyxshani wrote: > > Hi Leslie , > Yes ...I have visited this center. I can only talk of my experience which may differ from many others. My experience was not a pleasant one. While the reader who read the leaf I went for was okay but the charges " tripled " by the time it was translated and a new person was sent to read the translations written for my hard copy. The tall in-house English language translator was mainly hovering around shanti deeksha and its importance. I was getting strong indirect signals to have it done by the center. My tamil speaking friend who accompanied me in Cennai also overhead the translator saying that I should be charged more. >  > The Naadi idetification process was  correct initially but when translation on the book was read it had few errors which shook my confidence in the staff working there. I did remind them on the pious work they were doing and requested them to be mindful of the opportunity they had in reading the great work of the Maharishis. >  > This did make them stick to their original charges. I am assuming that the charges simply trebled due to me being a foreigner.Many may say that we have a higher earning capacity thus shud pay more. I also hope the same 'many' arrange better seating in the 6ft waiting verandah before the opening of the service and suggest for a cleaner waiting room for 'triple' paying customers. >  > I did not proceed with other three reading which I had planned for. Maybe the maharishis realised the potential of me being fleeced thus had me leave after the first one. >  > My recomendation to you Leslie is to go there early in the morning , be prepared to be standing for some time and clarify charges during thumb impressions. Make sure you go with a local who can speak your language and the local one also......that is if you decide to go ! There are many other reputable centres in naadi so pls check the forum database and buy the book written by Shashikant Oak which will cost you on 99Rupees which has many addresses. >  > I pray that you do find the intended leaves. >  > regards. >  >  > > --- On Mon, 14/7/08, Leslie Neo <leslieneo2103 wrote: > > Leslie Neo <leslieneo2103 > Naadi Astrologer in Chennai > > Received: Monday, 14 July, 2008, 10:18 PM Hi, > May I know whether has anybody visited agathiyar durai subburathinam > chief Naadi Astrologer in Chennai ? > > Will appreciate if you can share your experience. > > Regards, > Leslie > > > > > > > > > > Start at the new 7 for a better online experience. www.7.com.au > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008  Hello I´m new here, I am a western astrologer, and I first heard about Naadi in a book written by Phyllis Crystal regarding her visits to India and Sai Baba. It all sounds very interesting. I always makes me very sad to hear about, and to experience, being charged more because of 'being foreign'. Who are people to say what one's financial circumstances are? Some people have saved for years for the opportunity to travel to India, from their home countries in the Western world, which also have very high expenses just to survive and stay alive. People in other parts of the world often do not realise that there is ALSO poverty and unemployment in the west with people living in extremely bad conditions, and also very cold in winter with high costs that many cannot afford to even keep warm. Not everyone has work. Some people live on the streets. Old people regularly die of 'hypothermia' because they cannot afford the cost of heating. Earnings are higher, if you are lucky enough to find a job (and not everyone can find work) but so are the costs of simply surviving. Even in different parts of Europe people try to charge more because of the 'excuse' that people from other European countries 'have more money'. It is simply an excuse to TAKE more. It has nothing to do with reality. In reality, some people are simply more greedy, that is the TRUE reality, and they try to justify their greed by saying it is for various reasons, which they cannot even prove about the person they are trying to overcharge. Everyone is different, there are rich and poor in all countries. It is simply an excuse to rob people. It makes me so sad to read about these stories and specially in terms of spiritual pursuits. Why not let people simply give more if they want to, and if they can afford it. I am sure that some people would, if they could truly afford it and found genuine reasons to give more, that would make it a pleasurable thing to do, instead of a journey to a country where one feels all the time that people are trying to rob you. I am sorry to go on like this but I have been interested in going to India all my life, but each time I hear of people being 'fleeced' it completely puts me off as I do not know how I would survive in that situation. I cannot afford to go there easily, it will cost me a lot of money and I do not have much money to spare, and certainly cannot afford to be 'fleeced' every 5 minutes. It seems to happen all the time there that people are overcharged for everything with this 'excuse' that everyone else has 'more money'. It would be nice if life was that simple. Crystal - Sunny Sunny Tuesday, July 15, 2008 6:02 PM Re: Naadi Astrologer in Chennai Hi Leslie , Yes ...I have visited this center. I can only talk of my experience which may differ from many others. My experience was not a pleasant one. While the reader who read the leaf I went for was okay but the charges "tripled" by the time it was translated and a new person was sent to read the translations written for my hard copy. The tall in-house English language translator was mainly hovering around shanti deeksha and its importance. I was getting strong indirect signals to have it done by the center. My tamil speaking friend who accompanied me in Cennai also overhead the translator saying that I should be charged more. The Naadi idetification process was correct initially but when translation on the book was read it had few errors which shook my confidence in the staff working there. I did remind them on the pious work they were doing and requested them to be mindful of the opportunity they had in reading the great work of the Maharishis. This did make them stick to their original charges. I am assuming that the charges simply trebled due to me being a foreigner.Many may say that we have a higher earning capacity thus shud pay more. I also hope the same 'many' arrange better seating in the 6ft waiting verandah before the opening of the service and suggest for a cleaner waiting room for 'triple' paying customers. I did not proceed with other three reading which I had planned for. Maybe the maharishis realised the potential of me being fleeced thus had me leave after the first one. My recomendation to you Leslie is to go there early in the morning , be prepared to be standing for some time and clarify charges during thumb impressions. Make sure you go with a local who can speak your language and the local one also......that is if you decide to go ! There are many other reputable centres in naadi so pls check the forum database and buy the book written by Shashikant Oak which will cost you on 99Rupees which has many addresses. I pray that you do find the intended leaves. regards. --- On Mon, 14/7/08, Leslie Neo <leslieneo2103 .sg> wrote: Leslie Neo <leslieneo2103 .sg> Naadi Astrologer in Chennai Received: Monday, 14 July, 2008, 10:18 PM Hi,May I know whether has anybody visited agathiyar durai subburathinamchief Naadi Astrologer in Chennai ?Will appreciate if you can share your experience.Regards,Leslie Start at the new 7 for a better online experience - Start Here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 Hi Crystal, Please note that there are many...yes many honest people who will charge you a fair amount and not fleece you. Many such astrologers/readers have been mentioned here by people who have used their services. Please do not lose hope as many other readers are trying their outmost best to be ethical. I just gave my reply to sumone who asked on a specific centre. It was just MY personal experience. I do hope and pray that you do make your trip and a one that is planned ahead taking into account that things could change once you there. Good Luck. --- On Wed, 16/7/08, brghtcrystl <brghtcrystl wrote: brghtcrystl <brghtcrystlRe: Naadi Astrologer in Chennai Received: Wednesday, 16 July, 2008, 4:28 PM  Hello I´m new here, I am a western astrologer, and I first heard about Naadi in a book written by Phyllis Crystal regarding her visits to India and Sai Baba. It all sounds very interesting. I always makes me very sad to hear about, and to experience, being charged more because of 'being foreign'. Who are people to say what one's financial circumstances are? Some people have saved for years for the opportunity to travel to India, from their home countries in the Western world, which also have very high expenses just to survive and stay alive. People in other parts of the world often do not realise that there is ALSO poverty and unemployment in the west with people living in extremely bad conditions, and also very cold in winter with high costs that many cannot afford to even keep warm. Not everyone has work. Some people live on the streets. Old people regularly die of 'hypothermia' because they cannot afford the cost of heating. Earnings are higher, if you are lucky enough to find a job (and not everyone can find work) but so are the costs of simply surviving. Even in different parts of Europe people try to charge more because of the 'excuse' that people from other European countries 'have more money'. It is simply an excuse to TAKE more. It has nothing to do with reality. In reality, some people are simply more greedy, that is the TRUE reality, and they try to justify their greed by saying it is for various reasons, which they cannot even prove about the person they are trying to overcharge. Everyone is different, there are rich and poor in all countries. It is simply an excuse to rob people. It makes me so sad to read about these stories and specially in terms of spiritual pursuits. Why not let people simply give more if they want to, and if they can afford it. I am sure that some people would, if they could truly afford it and found genuine reasons to give more, that would make it a pleasurable thing to do, instead of a journey to a country where one feels all the time that people are trying to rob you. I am sorry to go on like this but I have been interested in going to India all my life, but each time I hear of people being 'fleeced' it completely puts me off as I do not know how I would survive in that situation. I cannot afford to go there easily, it will cost me a lot of money and I do not have much money to spare, and certainly cannot afford to be 'fleeced' every 5 minutes. It seems to happen all the time there that people are overcharged for everything with this 'excuse' that everyone else has 'more money'. It would be nice if life was that simple. Crystal - Sunny Sunny Tuesday, July 15, 2008 6:02 PM Re: Naadi Astrologer in Chennai Hi Leslie , Yes ...I have visited this center. I can only talk of my experience which may differ from many others. My experience was not a pleasant one. While the reader who read the leaf I went for was okay but the charges "tripled" by the time it was translated and a new person was sent to read the translations written for my hard copy. The tall in-house English language translator was mainly hovering around shanti deeksha and its importance. I was getting strong indirect signals to have it done by the center. My tamil speaking friend who accompanied me in Cennai also overhead the translator saying that I should be charged more. The Naadi idetification process was correct initially but when translation on the book was read it had few errors which shook my confidence in the staff working there. I did remind them on the pious work they were doing and requested them to be mindful of the opportunity they had in reading the great work of the Maharishis. This did make them stick to their original charges. I am assuming that the charges simply trebled due to me being a foreigner.Many may say that we have a higher earning capacity thus shud pay more. I also hope the same 'many' arrange better seating in the 6ft waiting verandah before the opening of the service and suggest for a cleaner waiting room for 'triple' paying customers. I did not proceed with other three reading which I had planned for. Maybe the maharishis realised the potential of me being fleeced thus had me leave after the first one. My recomendation to you Leslie is to go there early in the morning , be prepared to be standing for some time and clarify charges during thumb impressions. Make sure you go with a local who can speak your language and the local one also......that is if you decide to go ! There are many other reputable centres in naadi so pls check the forum database and buy the book written by Shashikant Oak which will cost you on 99Rupees which has many addresses. I pray that you do find the intended leaves. regards. --- On Mon, 14/7/08, Leslie Neo <leslieneo2103@ . sg> wrote: Leslie Neo <leslieneo2103@ . sg> Naadi Astrologer in ChennaiReceived: Monday, 14 July, 2008, 10:18 PM Hi,May I know whether has anybody visited agathiyar durai subburathinamchief Naadi Astrologer in Chennai ?Will appreciate if you can share your experience.Regards,Leslie Start at the new 7 for a better online experience - Start Here. Start at the new 7 for a better online experience - Start Here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008  Thank you for your encouraging words, 'Sunny Sunny', it gives me more hope. This looks like a very interesting group and I look forward to learning more about astrologers in India and about the Naadi side of astrology which sounds fascinating. Good thoughts, Crystal - Sunny Sunny Wednesday, July 16, 2008 1:27 PM Re: Naadi Astrologer in Chennai Hi Crystal, Please note that there are many...yes many honest people who will charge you a fair amount and not fleece you. Many such astrologers/readers have been mentioned here by people who have used their services. Please do not lose hope as many other readers are trying their outmost best to be ethical. I just gave my reply to sumone who asked on a specific centre. It was just MY personal experience. I do hope and pray that you do make your trip and a one that is planned ahead taking into account that things could change once you there. Good Luck. --- On Wed, 16/7/08, brghtcrystl <brghtcrystl > wrote: brghtcrystl <brghtcrystl >Re: Naadi Astrologer in Chennai Received: Wednesday, 16 July, 2008, 4:28 PM  Hello I´m new here, I am a western astrologer, and I first heard about Naadi in a book written by Phyllis Crystal regarding her visits to India and Sai Baba. It all sounds very interesting. I always makes me very sad to hear about, and to experience, being charged more because of 'being foreign'. Who are people to say what one's financial circumstances are? Some people have saved for years for the opportunity to travel to India, from their home countries in the Western world, which also have very high expenses just to survive and stay alive. People in other parts of the world often do not realise that there is ALSO poverty and unemployment in the west with people living in extremely bad conditions, and also very cold in winter with high costs that many cannot afford to even keep warm. Not everyone has work. Some people live on the streets. Old people regularly die of 'hypothermia' because they cannot afford the cost of heating. Earnings are higher, if you are lucky enough to find a job (and not everyone can find work) but so are the costs of simply surviving. Even in different parts of Europe people try to charge more because of the 'excuse' that people from other European countries 'have more money'. It is simply an excuse to TAKE more. It has nothing to do with reality. In reality, some people are simply more greedy, that is the TRUE reality, and they try to justify their greed by saying it is for various reasons, which they cannot even prove about the person they are trying to overcharge. Everyone is different, there are rich and poor in all countries. It is simply an excuse to rob people. It makes me so sad to read about these stories and specially in terms of spiritual pursuits. Why not let people simply give more if they want to, and if they can afford it. I am sure that some people would, if they could truly afford it and found genuine reasons to give more, that would make it a pleasurable thing to do, instead of a journey to a country where one feels all the time that people are trying to rob you. I am sorry to go on like this but I have been interested in going to India all my life, but each time I hear of people being 'fleeced' it completely puts me off as I do not know how I would survive in that situation. I cannot afford to go there easily, it will cost me a lot of money and I do not have much money to spare, and certainly cannot afford to be 'fleeced' every 5 minutes. It seems to happen all the time there that people are overcharged for everything with this 'excuse' that everyone else has 'more money'. It would be nice if life was that simple. Crystal - Sunny Sunny Tuesday, July 15, 2008 6:02 PM Re: Naadi Astrologer in Chennai Hi Leslie , Yes ...I have visited this center. I can only talk of my experience which may differ from many others. My experience was not a pleasant one. While the reader who read the leaf I went for was okay but the charges "tripled" by the time it was translated and a new person was sent to read the translations written for my hard copy. The tall in-house English language translator was mainly hovering around shanti deeksha and its importance. I was getting strong indirect signals to have it done by the center. My tamil speaking friend who accompanied me in Cennai also overhead the translator saying that I should be charged more. The Naadi idetification process was correct initially but when translation on the book was read it had few errors which shook my confidence in the staff working there. I did remind them on the pious work they were doing and requested them to be mindful of the opportunity they had in reading the great work of the Maharishis. This did make them stick to their original charges. I am assuming that the charges simply trebled due to me being a foreigner.Many may say that we have a higher earning capacity thus shud pay more. I also hope the same 'many' arrange better seating in the 6ft waiting verandah before the opening of the service and suggest for a cleaner waiting room for 'triple' paying customers. I did not proceed with other three reading which I had planned for. Maybe the maharishis realised the potential of me being fleeced thus had me leave after the first one. My recomendation to you Leslie is to go there early in the morning , be prepared to be standing for some time and clarify charges during thumb impressions. Make sure you go with a local who can speak your language and the local one also......that is if you decide to go ! There are many other reputable centres in naadi so pls check the forum database and buy the book written by Shashikant Oak which will cost you on 99Rupees which has many addresses. I pray that you do find the intended leaves. regards. --- On Mon, 14/7/08, Leslie Neo <leslieneo2103@ . sg> wrote: Leslie Neo <leslieneo2103@ . sg> Naadi Astrologer in ChennaiReceived: Monday, 14 July, 2008, 10:18 PM Hi,May I know whether has anybody visited agathiyar durai subburathinamchief Naadi Astrologer in Chennai ?Will appreciate if you can share your experience.Regards,Leslie Start at the new 7 for a better online experience - Start Here. Start at the new 7 for a better online experience - Start Here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 Hi crystal, is it the word sunny sunny...is encouraging u?....where r u from? sathish--- On Wed, 7/16/08, brghtcrystl <brghtcrystl wrote: brghtcrystl <brghtcrystlRe: Naadi Astrologer in Chennai Date: Wednesday, July 16, 2008, 9:52 PM  Thank you for your encouraging words, 'Sunny Sunny', it gives me more hope. This looks like a very interesting group and I look forward to learning more about astrologers in India and about the Naadi side of astrology which sounds fascinating. Good thoughts, Crystal - Sunny Sunny Wednesday, July 16, 2008 1:27 PM Re: Naadi Astrologer in Chennai Hi Crystal, Please note that there are many...yes many honest people who will charge you a fair amount and not fleece you. Many such astrologers/ readers have been mentioned here by people who have used their services. Please do not lose hope as many other readers are trying their outmost best to be ethical. I just gave my reply to sumone who asked on a specific centre. It was just MY personal experience. I do hope and pray that you do make your trip and a one that is planned ahead taking into account that things could change once you there. Good Luck. --- On Wed, 16/7/08, brghtcrystl@ gmail.com <brghtcrystl@ gmail.com> wrote: brghtcrystl@ gmail.com <brghtcrystl@ gmail.com>Re: Naadi Astrologer in ChennaiReceived: Wednesday, 16 July, 2008, 4:28 PM  Hello I´m new here, I am a western astrologer, and I first heard about Naadi in a book written by Phyllis Crystal regarding her visits to India and Sai Baba. It all sounds very interesting. I always makes me very sad to hear about, and to experience, being charged more because of 'being foreign'. Who are people to say what one's financial circumstances are? Some people have saved for years for the opportunity to travel to India, from their home countries in the Western world, which also have very high expenses just to survive and stay alive. People in other parts of the world often do not realise that there is ALSO poverty and unemployment in the west with people living in extremely bad conditions, and also very cold in winter with high costs that many cannot afford to even keep warm. Not everyone has work. Some people live on the streets. Old people regularly die of 'hypothermia' because they cannot afford the cost of heating. Earnings are higher, if you are lucky enough to find a job (and not everyone can find work) but so are the costs of simply surviving. Even in different parts of Europe people try to charge more because of the 'excuse' that people from other European countries 'have more money'. It is simply an excuse to TAKE more. It has nothing to do with reality. In reality, some people are simply more greedy, that is the TRUE reality, and they try to justify their greed by saying it is for various reasons, which they cannot even prove about the person they are trying to overcharge. Everyone is different, there are rich and poor in all countries. It is simply an excuse to rob people. It makes me so sad to read about these stories and specially in terms of spiritual pursuits. Why not let people simply give more if they want to, and if they can afford it. I am sure that some people would, if they could truly afford it and found genuine reasons to give more, that would make it a pleasurable thing to do, instead of a journey to a country where one feels all the time that people are trying to rob you. I am sorry to go on like this but I have been interested in going to India all my life, but each time I hear of people being 'fleeced' it completely puts me off as I do not know how I would survive in that situation. I cannot afford to go there easily, it will cost me a lot of money and I do not have much money to spare, and certainly cannot afford to be 'fleeced' every 5 minutes. It seems to happen all the time there that people are overcharged for everything with this 'excuse' that everyone else has 'more money'. It would be nice if life was that simple. Crystal - Sunny Sunny Tuesday, July 15, 2008 6:02 PM Re: Naadi Astrologer in Chennai Hi Leslie , Yes ...I have visited this center. I can only talk of my experience which may differ from many others. My experience was not a pleasant one. While the reader who read the leaf I went for was okay but the charges "tripled" by the time it was translated and a new person was sent to read the translations written for my hard copy. The tall in-house English language translator was mainly hovering around shanti deeksha and its importance. I was getting strong indirect signals to have it done by the center. My tamil speaking friend who accompanied me in Cennai also overhead the translator saying that I should be charged more. The Naadi idetification process was correct initially but when translation on the book was read it had few errors which shook my confidence in the staff working there. I did remind them on the pious work they were doing and requested them to be mindful of the opportunity they had in reading the great work of the Maharishis. This did make them stick to their original charges. I am assuming that the charges simply trebled due to me being a foreigner.Many may say that we have a higher earning capacity thus shud pay more. I also hope the same 'many' arrange better seating in the 6ft waiting verandah before the opening of the service and suggest for a cleaner waiting room for 'triple' paying customers. I did not proceed with other three reading which I had planned for. Maybe the maharishis realised the potential of me being fleeced thus had me leave after the first one. My recomendation to you Leslie is to go there early in the morning , be prepared to be standing for some time and clarify charges during thumb impressions. Make sure you go with a local who can speak your language and the local one also......that is if you decide to go ! There are many other reputable centres in naadi so pls check the forum database and buy the book written by Shashikant Oak which will cost you on 99Rupees which has many addresses. I pray that you do find the intended leaves. regards. --- On Mon, 14/7/08, Leslie Neo <leslieneo2103@ . sg> wrote: Leslie Neo <leslieneo2103@ . sg> Naadi Astrologer in ChennaiReceived: Monday, 14 July, 2008, 10:18 PM Hi,May I know whether has anybody visited agathiyar durai subburathinamchief Naadi Astrologer in Chennai ?Will appreciate if you can share your experience.Regards,Leslie Start at the new 7 for a better online experience - Start Here. Start at the new 7 for a better online experience - Start Here. 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Guest guest Posted July 18, 2008 Report Share Posted July 18, 2008  Hello Sathish I am from France, UK and Spain.. Crystal - sathishkumar settu Thursday, July 17, 2008 10:12 AM Re: Naadi Astrologer in Chennai Hi crystal, is it the word sunny sunny...is encouraging u?....where r u from? sathish--- On Wed, 7/16/08, brghtcrystl <brghtcrystl > wrote: brghtcrystl <brghtcrystl >Re: Naadi Astrologer in Chennai Date: Wednesday, July 16, 2008, 9:52 PM  Thank you for your encouraging words, 'Sunny Sunny', it gives me more hope. This looks like a very interesting group and I look forward to learning more about astrologers in India and about the Naadi side of astrology which sounds fascinating. Good thoughts, Crystal - Sunny Sunny Wednesday, July 16, 2008 1:27 PM Re: Naadi Astrologer in Chennai Hi Crystal, Please note that there are many...yes many honest people who will charge you a fair amount and not fleece you. Many such astrologers/ readers have been mentioned here by people who have used their services. Please do not lose hope as many other readers are trying their outmost best to be ethical. I just gave my reply to sumone who asked on a specific centre. It was just MY personal experience. I do hope and pray that you do make your trip and a one that is planned ahead taking into account that things could change once you there. Good Luck. --- On Wed, 16/7/08, brghtcrystl@ gmail.com <brghtcrystl@ gmail.com> wrote: brghtcrystl@ gmail.com <brghtcrystl@ gmail.com>Re: Naadi Astrologer in ChennaiReceived: Wednesday, 16 July, 2008, 4:28 PM  Hello I´m new here, I am a western astrologer, and I first heard about Naadi in a book written by Phyllis Crystal regarding her visits to India and Sai Baba. It all sounds very interesting. I always makes me very sad to hear about, and to experience, being charged more because of 'being foreign'. Who are people to say what one's financial circumstances are? Some people have saved for years for the opportunity to travel to India, from their home countries in the Western world, which also have very high expenses just to survive and stay alive. People in other parts of the world often do not realise that there is ALSO poverty and unemployment in the west with people living in extremely bad conditions, and also very cold in winter with high costs that many cannot afford to even keep warm. Not everyone has work. Some people live on the streets. Old people regularly die of 'hypothermia' because they cannot afford the cost of heating. Earnings are higher, if you are lucky enough to find a job (and not everyone can find work) but so are the costs of simply surviving. Even in different parts of Europe people try to charge more because of the 'excuse' that people from other European countries 'have more money'. It is simply an excuse to TAKE more. It has nothing to do with reality. In reality, some people are simply more greedy, that is the TRUE reality, and they try to justify their greed by saying it is for various reasons, which they cannot even prove about the person they are trying to overcharge. Everyone is different, there are rich and poor in all countries. It is simply an excuse to rob people. It makes me so sad to read about these stories and specially in terms of spiritual pursuits. Why not let people simply give more if they want to, and if they can afford it. I am sure that some people would, if they could truly afford it and found genuine reasons to give more, that would make it a pleasurable thing to do, instead of a journey to a country where one feels all the time that people are trying to rob you. I am sorry to go on like this but I have been interested in going to India all my life, but each time I hear of people being 'fleeced' it completely puts me off as I do not know how I would survive in that situation. I cannot afford to go there easily, it will cost me a lot of money and I do not have much money to spare, and certainly cannot afford to be 'fleeced' every 5 minutes. It seems to happen all the time there that people are overcharged for everything with this 'excuse' that everyone else has 'more money'. It would be nice if life was that simple. Crystal - Sunny Sunny Tuesday, July 15, 2008 6:02 PM Re: Naadi Astrologer in Chennai Hi Leslie , Yes ...I have visited this center. I can only talk of my experience which may differ from many others. My experience was not a pleasant one. While the reader who read the leaf I went for was okay but the charges "tripled" by the time it was translated and a new person was sent to read the translations written for my hard copy. The tall in-house English language translator was mainly hovering around shanti deeksha and its importance. I was getting strong indirect signals to have it done by the center. My tamil speaking friend who accompanied me in Cennai also overhead the translator saying that I should be charged more. The Naadi idetification process was correct initially but when translation on the book was read it had few errors which shook my confidence in the staff working there. I did remind them on the pious work they were doing and requested them to be mindful of the opportunity they had in reading the great work of the Maharishis. This did make them stick to their original charges. I am assuming that the charges simply trebled due to me being a foreigner.Many may say that we have a higher earning capacity thus shud pay more. I also hope the same 'many' arrange better seating in the 6ft waiting verandah before the opening of the service and suggest for a cleaner waiting room for 'triple' paying customers. I did not proceed with other three reading which I had planned for. Maybe the maharishis realised the potential of me being fleeced thus had me leave after the first one. My recomendation to you Leslie is to go there early in the morning , be prepared to be standing for some time and clarify charges during thumb impressions. Make sure you go with a local who can speak your language and the local one also......that is if you decide to go ! There are many other reputable centres in naadi so pls check the forum database and buy the book written by Shashikant Oak which will cost you on 99Rupees which has many addresses. I pray that you do find the intended leaves. regards. --- On Mon, 14/7/08, Leslie Neo <leslieneo2103@ . sg> wrote: Leslie Neo <leslieneo2103@ . sg> Naadi Astrologer in ChennaiReceived: Monday, 14 July, 2008, 10:18 PM Hi,May I know whether has anybody visited agathiyar durai subburathinamchief Naadi Astrologer in Chennai ?Will appreciate if you can share your experience.Regards,Leslie Start at the new 7 for a better online experience - Start Here. Start at the new 7 for a better online experience - Start Here. 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Guest guest Posted July 20, 2008 Report Share Posted July 20, 2008 Hi Sunny Sunny, 1. What should a reasonable charge be ? It is charged per chapter basis ? (eg. chapter 1 - General Readings; chapter 2 - Educational Gandham), etc). I will be in Chennai soon and will not like to pay a much higher amount than expected. 2. Does it include the translator charge ? Will appreciate your replies to the 2 queries which I have... Regards, Leslie Sunny Sunny <sunnyxshani wrote: Hi Crystal, Please note that there are many...yes many honest people who will charge you a fair amount and not fleece you. Many such astrologers/readers have been mentioned here by people who have used their services. Please do not lose hope as many other readers are trying their outmost best to be ethical. I just gave my reply to sumone who asked on a specific centre. It was just MY personal experience. I do hope and pray that you do make your trip and a one that is planned ahead taking into account that things could change once you there. Good Luck. --- On Wed, 16/7/08, brghtcrystl <brghtcrystl > wrote: brghtcrystl <brghtcrystl >Re: Naadi Astrologer in Chennai Received: Wednesday, 16 July, 2008, 4:28 PM  Hello I´m new here, I am a western astrologer, and I first heard about Naadi in a book written by Phyllis Crystal regarding her visits to India and Sai Baba. It all sounds very interesting. I always makes me very sad to hear about, and to experience, being charged more because of 'being foreign'. Who are people to say what one's financial circumstances are? Some people have saved for years for the opportunity to travel to India, from their home countries in the Western world, which also have very high expenses just to survive and stay alive. People in other parts of the world often do not realise that there is ALSO poverty and unemployment in the west with people living in extremely bad conditions, and also very cold in winter with high costs that many cannot afford to even keep warm. Not everyone has work. Some people live on the streets. Old people regularly die of 'hypothermia' because they cannot afford the cost of heating. Earnings are higher, if you are lucky enough to find a job (and not everyone can find work) but so are the costs of simply surviving. Even in different parts of Europe people try to charge more because of the 'excuse' that people from other European countries 'have more money'. It is simply an excuse to TAKE more. It has nothing to do with reality. In reality, some people are simply more greedy, that is the TRUE reality, and they try to justify their greed by saying it is for various reasons, which they cannot even prove about the person they are trying to overcharge. Everyone is different, there are rich and poor in all countries. It is simply an excuse to rob people. It makes me so sad to read about these stories and specially in terms of spiritual pursuits. Why not let people simply give more if they want to, and if they can afford it. I am sure that some people would, if they could truly afford it and found genuine reasons to give more, that would make it a pleasurable thing to do, instead of a journey to a country where one feels all the time that people are trying to rob you. I am sorry to go on like this but I have been interested in going to India all my life, but each time I hear of people being 'fleeced' it completely puts me off as I do not know how I would survive in that situation. I cannot afford to go there easily, it will cost me a lot of money and I do not have much money to spare, and certainly cannot afford to be 'fleeced' every 5 minutes. It seems to happen all the time there that people are overcharged for everything with this 'excuse' that everyone else has 'more money'. It would be nice if life was that simple. Crystal - Sunny Sunny Tuesday, July 15, 2008 6:02 PM Re: Naadi Astrologer in Chennai Hi Leslie , Yes ...I have visited this center. I can only talk of my experience which may differ from many others. My experience was not a pleasant one. While the reader who read the leaf I went for was okay but the charges "tripled" by the time it was translated and a new person was sent to read the translations written for my hard copy. The tall in-house English language translator was mainly hovering around shanti deeksha and its importance. I was getting strong indirect signals to have it done by the center. My tamil speaking friend who accompanied me in Cennai also overhead the translator saying that I should be charged more. The Naadi idetification process was correct initially but when translation on the book was read it had few errors which shook my confidence in the staff working there. I did remind them on the pious work they were doing and requested them to be mindful of the opportunity they had in reading the great work of the Maharishis. This did make them stick to their original charges. I am assuming that the charges simply trebled due to me being a foreigner.Many may say that we have a higher earning capacity thus shud pay more. I also hope the same 'many' arrange better seating in the 6ft waiting verandah before the opening of the service and suggest for a cleaner waiting room for 'triple' paying customers. I did not proceed with other three reading which I had planned for. Maybe the maharishis realised the potential of me being fleeced thus had me leave after the first one. My recomendation to you Leslie is to go there early in the morning , be prepared to be standing for some time and clarify charges during thumb impressions. Make sure you go with a local who can speak your language and the local one also......that is if you decide to go ! There are many other reputable centres in naadi so pls check the forum database and buy the book written by Shashikant Oak which will cost you on 99Rupees which has many addresses. I pray that you do find the intended leaves. regards. --- On Mon, 14/7/08, Leslie Neo <leslieneo2103@ . sg> wrote: Leslie Neo <leslieneo2103@ . sg> Naadi Astrologer in ChennaiReceived: Monday, 14 July, 2008, 10:18 PM Hi,May I know whether has anybody visited agathiyar durai subburathinamchief Naadi Astrologer in Chennai ?Will appreciate if you can share your experience.Regards,Leslie Start at the new 7 for a better online experience - Start Here. Start at the new 7 for a better online experience - Start Here. Get your new Email address! 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Guest guest Posted July 20, 2008 Report Share Posted July 20, 2008 Hi, In chennai, i contacted Mr.duraisubramanium he is asking me to provide my thumb impression as well as my horoscope.Why he is asking horoscope , has he naadi astrologer or horoscope astrologer?i dont know. If any having experiance with Mr.Duraisubramanium please guide me. sathish--- On Sun, 7/20/08, Leslie Neo <leslieneo2103 wrote: Leslie Neo <leslieneo2103Re: Naadi Astrologer in Chennai Date: Sunday, July 20, 2008, 12:39 PM Hi Sunny Sunny, 1. What should a reasonable charge be ? It is charged per chapter basis ? (eg. chapter 1 - General Readings; chapter 2 - Educational Gandham), etc). I will be in Chennai soon and will not like to pay a much higher amount than expected. 2. Does it include the translator charge ? Will appreciate your replies to the 2 queries which I have... Regards, Leslie Sunny Sunny <sunnyxshani@ . au> wrote: Hi Crystal, Please note that there are many...yes many honest people who will charge you a fair amount and not fleece you. Many such astrologers/ readers have been mentioned here by people who have used their services. Please do not lose hope as many other readers are trying their outmost best to be ethical. I just gave my reply to sumone who asked on a specific centre. It was just MY personal experience. I do hope and pray that you do make your trip and a one that is planned ahead taking into account that things could change once you there. Good Luck. --- On Wed, 16/7/08, brghtcrystl@ gmail.com <brghtcrystl@ gmail.com> wrote: brghtcrystl@ gmail.com <brghtcrystl@ gmail.com>Re: Naadi Astrologer in ChennaiReceived: Wednesday, 16 July, 2008, 4:28 PM  Hello I´m new here, I am a western astrologer, and I first heard about Naadi in a book written by Phyllis Crystal regarding her visits to India and Sai Baba. It all sounds very interesting. I always makes me very sad to hear about, and to experience, being charged more because of 'being foreign'. Who are people to say what one's financial circumstances are? Some people have saved for years for the opportunity to travel to India, from their home countries in the Western world, which also have very high expenses just to survive and stay alive. People in other parts of the world often do not realise that there is ALSO poverty and unemployment in the west with people living in extremely bad conditions, and also very cold in winter with high costs that many cannot afford to even keep warm. Not everyone has work. Some people live on the streets. Old people regularly die of 'hypothermia' because they cannot afford the cost of heating. Earnings are higher, if you are lucky enough to find a job (and not everyone can find work) but so are the costs of simply surviving. Even in different parts of Europe people try to charge more because of the 'excuse' that people from other European countries 'have more money'. It is simply an excuse to TAKE more. It has nothing to do with reality. In reality, some people are simply more greedy, that is the TRUE reality, and they try to justify their greed by saying it is for various reasons, which they cannot even prove about the person they are trying to overcharge. Everyone is different, there are rich and poor in all countries. It is simply an excuse to rob people. It makes me so sad to read about these stories and specially in terms of spiritual pursuits. Why not let people simply give more if they want to, and if they can afford it. I am sure that some people would, if they could truly afford it and found genuine reasons to give more, that would make it a pleasurable thing to do, instead of a journey to a country where one feels all the time that people are trying to rob you. I am sorry to go on like this but I have been interested in going to India all my life, but each time I hear of people being 'fleeced' it completely puts me off as I do not know how I would survive in that situation. I cannot afford to go there easily, it will cost me a lot of money and I do not have much money to spare, and certainly cannot afford to be 'fleeced' every 5 minutes. It seems to happen all the time there that people are overcharged for everything with this 'excuse' that everyone else has 'more money'. It would be nice if life was that simple. Crystal - Sunny Sunny Tuesday, July 15, 2008 6:02 PM Re: Naadi Astrologer in Chennai Hi Leslie , Yes ...I have visited this center. I can only talk of my experience which may differ from many others. My experience was not a pleasant one. While the reader who read the leaf I went for was okay but the charges "tripled" by the time it was translated and a new person was sent to read the translations written for my hard copy. The tall in-house English language translator was mainly hovering around shanti deeksha and its importance. I was getting strong indirect signals to have it done by the center. My tamil speaking friend who accompanied me in Cennai also overhead the translator saying that I should be charged more. The Naadi idetification process was correct initially but when translation on the book was read it had few errors which shook my confidence in the staff working there. I did remind them on the pious work they were doing and requested them to be mindful of the opportunity they had in reading the great work of the Maharishis. This did make them stick to their original charges. I am assuming that the charges simply trebled due to me being a foreigner.Many may say that we have a higher earning capacity thus shud pay more. I also hope the same 'many' arrange better seating in the 6ft waiting verandah before the opening of the service and suggest for a cleaner waiting room for 'triple' paying customers. I did not proceed with other three reading which I had planned for. Maybe the maharishis realised the potential of me being fleeced thus had me leave after the first one. My recomendation to you Leslie is to go there early in the morning , be prepared to be standing for some time and clarify charges during thumb impressions. Make sure you go with a local who can speak your language and the local one also......that is if you decide to go ! There are many other reputable centres in naadi so pls check the forum database and buy the book written by Shashikant Oak which will cost you on 99Rupees which has many addresses. I pray that you do find the intended leaves. regards. --- On Mon, 14/7/08, Leslie Neo <leslieneo2103@ . sg> wrote: Leslie Neo <leslieneo2103@ . sg> Naadi Astrologer in ChennaiReceived: Monday, 14 July, 2008, 10:18 PM Hi,May I know whether has anybody visited agathiyar durai subburathinamchief Naadi Astrologer in Chennai ?Will appreciate if you can share your experience.Regards,Leslie Start at the new 7 for a better online experience - Start Here. Start at the new 7 for a better online experience - Start Here. Get your new Email address! Grab the Email name you've always wanted before someone else does! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 Hi Leslie, The charges vary from reader to reader. It may start from R450 going up to R1000.00 for general chapter. The other kandams hover around R300-400. Other may have found cheaper ones who would share such info with you. Then there are ones who provide interpreters. Some charge extra and some do not. I do not know of translator charges as my guide did a great job. .....but then there are ones who ask for R2000.00 if you are a foreigner. Please note that i cannot guarantee an air-conditioned waiting room with leather seats at such centres. Pls go prepared to any Naadi centre as it does take time searching for leaves. Have your water bottle and munchies in your bag.Do not wander off too far while waiting. Lastly... be prepared to be blown away when the contents of your leaf is read to you !!!! Having your own recording devices with charged up batteries makes it handy for later analysis. --- On Sun, 20/7/08, Leslie Neo <leslieneo2103 wrote: Leslie Neo <leslieneo2103Re: Naadi Astrologer in Chennai Received: Sunday, 20 July, 2008, 5:09 PM Hi Sunny Sunny, 1. What should a reasonable charge be ? It is charged per chapter basis ? (eg. chapter 1 - General Readings; chapter 2 - Educational Gandham), etc). I will be in Chennai soon and will not like to pay a much higher amount than expected. 2. Does it include the translator charge ? Will appreciate your replies to the 2 queries which I have... Regards, Leslie Sunny Sunny <sunnyxshani@ . au> wrote: Hi Crystal, Please note that there are many...yes many honest people who will charge you a fair amount and not fleece you. Many such astrologers/ readers have been mentioned here by people who have used their services. Please do not lose hope as many other readers are trying their outmost best to be ethical. I just gave my reply to sumone who asked on a specific centre. It was just MY personal experience. I do hope and pray that you do make your trip and a one that is planned ahead taking into account that things could change once you there. Good Luck. --- On Wed, 16/7/08, brghtcrystl@ gmail.com <brghtcrystl@ gmail.com> wrote: brghtcrystl@ gmail.com <brghtcrystl@ gmail.com>Re: Naadi Astrologer in ChennaiReceived: Wednesday, 16 July, 2008, 4:28 PM  Hello I´m new here, I am a western astrologer, and I first heard about Naadi in a book written by Phyllis Crystal regarding her visits to India and Sai Baba. It all sounds very interesting. I always makes me very sad to hear about, and to experience, being charged more because of 'being foreign'. Who are people to say what one's financial circumstances are? Some people have saved for years for the opportunity to travel to India, from their home countries in the Western world, which also have very high expenses just to survive and stay alive. People in other parts of the world often do not realise that there is ALSO poverty and unemployment in the west with people living in extremely bad conditions, and also very cold in winter with high costs that many cannot afford to even keep warm. Not everyone has work. Some people live on the streets. Old people regularly die of 'hypothermia' because they cannot afford the cost of heating. Earnings are higher, if you are lucky enough to find a job (and not everyone can find work) but so are the costs of simply surviving. Even in different parts of Europe people try to charge more because of the 'excuse' that people from other European countries 'have more money'. It is simply an excuse to TAKE more. It has nothing to do with reality. In reality, some people are simply more greedy, that is the TRUE reality, and they try to justify their greed by saying it is for various reasons, which they cannot even prove about the person they are trying to overcharge. Everyone is different, there are rich and poor in all countries. It is simply an excuse to rob people. It makes me so sad to read about these stories and specially in terms of spiritual pursuits. Why not let people simply give more if they want to, and if they can afford it. I am sure that some people would, if they could truly afford it and found genuine reasons to give more, that would make it a pleasurable thing to do, instead of a journey to a country where one feels all the time that people are trying to rob you. I am sorry to go on like this but I have been interested in going to India all my life, but each time I hear of people being 'fleeced' it completely puts me off as I do not know how I would survive in that situation. I cannot afford to go there easily, it will cost me a lot of money and I do not have much money to spare, and certainly cannot afford to be 'fleeced' every 5 minutes. It seems to happen all the time there that people are overcharged for everything with this 'excuse' that everyone else has 'more money'. It would be nice if life was that simple. Crystal - Sunny Sunny Tuesday, July 15, 2008 6:02 PM Re: Naadi Astrologer in Chennai Hi Leslie , Yes ...I have visited this center. I can only talk of my experience which may differ from many others. My experience was not a pleasant one. While the reader who read the leaf I went for was okay but the charges "tripled" by the time it was translated and a new person was sent to read the translations written for my hard copy. The tall in-house English language translator was mainly hovering around shanti deeksha and its importance. I was getting strong indirect signals to have it done by the center. My tamil speaking friend who accompanied me in Cennai also overhead the translator saying that I should be charged more. The Naadi idetification process was correct initially but when translation on the book was read it had few errors which shook my confidence in the staff working there. I did remind them on the pious work they were doing and requested them to be mindful of the opportunity they had in reading the great work of the Maharishis. This did make them stick to their original charges. I am assuming that the charges simply trebled due to me being a foreigner.Many may say that we have a higher earning capacity thus shud pay more. I also hope the same 'many' arrange better seating in the 6ft waiting verandah before the opening of the service and suggest for a cleaner waiting room for 'triple' paying customers. I did not proceed with other three reading which I had planned for. Maybe the maharishis realised the potential of me being fleeced thus had me leave after the first one. My recomendation to you Leslie is to go there early in the morning , be prepared to be standing for some time and clarify charges during thumb impressions. Make sure you go with a local who can speak your language and the local one also......that is if you decide to go ! There are many other reputable centres in naadi so pls check the forum database and buy the book written by Shashikant Oak which will cost you on 99Rupees which has many addresses. I pray that you do find the intended leaves. regards. --- On Mon, 14/7/08, Leslie Neo <leslieneo2103@ . sg> wrote: Leslie Neo <leslieneo2103@ . sg> Naadi Astrologer in ChennaiReceived: Monday, 14 July, 2008, 10:18 PM Hi,May I know whether has anybody visited agathiyar durai subburathinamchief Naadi Astrologer in Chennai ?Will appreciate if you can share your experience.Regards,Leslie Start at the new 7 for a better online experience - Start Here. Start at the new 7 for a better online experience - Start Here. Get your new Email address! 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Guest guest Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 Kindly visit Balasubramaniam of Sri Agastiyar naadi centre in little congivaram. He is reasonable. His address and other details are at data section of the forum.Dhinakar22/07/2008 From: leslieneo2103Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 15:09:23 +0800Re: Naadi Astrologer in Chennai Hi Sunny Sunny, 1. What should a reasonable charge be ? It is charged per chapter basis ? (eg. chapter 1 - General Readings; chapter 2 - Educational Gandham), etc). I will be in Chennai soon and will not like to pay a much higher amount than expected. 2. Does it include the translator charge ? Will appreciate your replies to the 2 queries which I have... Regards, Leslie Sunny Sunny <sunnyxshani .au> wrote: Hi Crystal, Please note that there are many...yes many honest people who will charge you a fair amount and not fleece you. Many such astrologers/readers have been mentioned here by people who have used their services. Please do not lose hope as many other readers are trying their outmost best to be ethical. I just gave my reply to sumone who asked on a specific centre. It was just MY personal experience. I do hope and pray that you do make your trip and a one that is planned ahead taking into account that things could change once you there. Good Luck. --- On Wed, 16/7/08, brghtcrystl <brghtcrystl > wrote: brghtcrystl <brghtcrystl >Re: Naadi Astrologer in Chennai Received: Wednesday, 16 July, 2008, 4:28 PM  Hello I´m new here, I am a western astrologer, and I first heard about Naadi in a book written by Phyllis Crystal regarding her visits to India and Sai Baba. It all sounds very interesting. I always makes me very sad to hear about, and to experience, being charged more because of 'being foreign'. Who are people to say what one's financial circumstances are? Some people have saved for years for the opportunity to travel to India, from their home countries in the Western world, which also have very high expenses just to survive and stay alive. People in other parts of the world often do not realise that there is ALSO poverty and unemployment in the west with people living in extremely bad conditions, and also very cold in winter with high costs that many cannot afford to even keep warm. Not everyone has work. Some people live on the streets. Old people regularly die of 'hypothermia' because they cannot afford the cost of heating. Earnings are higher, if you are lucky enough to find a job (and not everyone can find work) but so are the costs of simply surviving. Even in different parts of Europe people try to charge more because of the 'excuse' that people from other European countries 'have more money'. It is simply an excuse to TAKE more. It has nothing to do with reality. In reality, some people are simply more greedy, that is the TRUE reality, and they try to justify their greed by saying it is for various reasons, which they cannot even prove about the person they are trying to overcharge. Everyone is different, there are rich and poor in all countries. It is simply an excuse to rob people. It makes me so sad to read about these stories and specially in terms of spiritual pursuits. Why not let people simply give more if they want to, and if they can afford it. I am sure that some people would, if they could truly afford it and found genuine reasons to give more, that would make it a pleasurable thing to do, instead of a journey to a country where one feels all the time that people are trying to rob you. I am sorry to go on like this but I have been interested in going to India all my life, but each time I hear of people being 'fleeced' it completely puts me off as I do not know how I would survive in that situation. I cannot afford to go there easily, it will cost me a lot of money and I do not have much money to spare, and certainly cannot afford to be 'fleeced' every 5 minutes. It seems to happen all the time there that people are overcharged for everything with this 'excuse' that everyone else has 'more money'. It would be nice if life was that simple. Crystal - Sunny Sunny Tuesday, July 15, 2008 6:02 PM Re: Naadi Astrologer in Chennai Hi Leslie , Yes ...I have visited this center. I can only talk of my experience which may differ from many others. My experience was not a pleasant one. While the reader who read the leaf I went for was okay but the charges "tripled" by the time it was translated and a new person was sent to read the translations written for my hard copy. The tall in-house English language translator was mainly hovering around shanti deeksha and its importance. I was getting strong indirect signals to have it done by the center. My tamil speaking friend who accompanied me in Cennai also overhead the translator saying that I should be charged more. The Naadi idetification process was correct initially but when translation on the book was read it had few errors which shook my confidence in the staff working there. I did remind them on the pious work they were doing and requested them to be mindful of the opportunity they had in reading the great work of the Maharishis. This did make them stick to their original charges. I am assuming that the charges simply trebled due to me being a foreigner.Many may say that we have a higher earning capacity thus shud pay more. I also hope the same 'many' arrange better seating in the 6ft waiting verandah before the opening of the service and suggest for a cleaner waiting room for 'triple' paying customers. I did not proceed with other three reading which I had planned for. Maybe the maharishis realised the potential of me being fleeced thus had me leave after the first one. My recomendation to you Leslie is to go there early in the morning , be prepared to be standing for some time and clarify charges during thumb impressions. Make sure you go with a local who can speak your language and the local one also......that is if you decide to go ! There are many other reputable centres in naadi so pls check the forum database and buy the book written by Shashikant Oak which will cost you on 99Rupees which has many addresses. I pray that you do find the intended leaves. regards. --- On Mon, 14/7/08, Leslie Neo <leslieneo2103@ . sg> wrote: Leslie Neo <leslieneo2103@ . sg> Naadi Astrologer in ChennaiReceived: Monday, 14 July, 2008, 10:18 PM Hi,May I know whether has anybody visited agathiyar durai subburathinamchief Naadi Astrologer in Chennai ?Will appreciate if you can share your experience.Regards,Leslie Start at the new 7 for a better online experience - Start Here. Start at the new 7 for a better online experience - Start Here. Get your new Email address! 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Guest guest Posted July 26, 2008 Report Share Posted July 26, 2008 Hi,I think you've drawn a very scary picture of India. Its not like that. You are most welcome to visit India & I'm sure you will love visiting it, but simply follow certain precautions & deal/interact with authorised & govermental stuff only. Always bargain for charges before checking in a hotel, hiring a cab or auto or like that. Shop only from reputed shopkeepers & so on. I don't think you'll have a horrific experience.Warm Regards, --- On Wed, 16/7/08, brghtcrystl <brghtcrystl wrote:brghtcrystl <brghtcrystlRe: Naadi Astrologer in Chennai Date: Wednesday, 16 July, 2008, 11:58 AM  Hello I´m new here, I am a western astrologer, and I first heard about Naadi in a book written by Phyllis Crystal regarding her visits to India and Sai Baba. It all sounds very interesting. I always makes me very sad to hear about, and to experience, being charged more because of 'being foreign'. Who are people to say what one's financial circumstances are? Some people have saved for years for the opportunity to travel to India, from their home countries in the Western world, which also have very high expenses just to survive and stay alive. People in other parts of the world often do not realise that there is ALSO poverty and unemployment in the west with people living in extremely bad conditions, and also very cold in winter with high costs that many cannot afford to even keep warm. Not everyone has work. Some people live on the streets. Old people regularly die of 'hypothermia' because they cannot afford the cost of heating. Earnings are higher, if you are lucky enough to find a job (and not everyone can find work) but so are the costs of simply surviving. Even in different parts of Europe people try to charge more because of the 'excuse' that people from other European countries 'have more money'. It is simply an excuse to TAKE more. It has nothing to do with reality. In reality, some people are simply more greedy, that is the TRUE reality, and they try to justify their greed by saying it is for various reasons, which they cannot even prove about the person they are trying to overcharge. Everyone is different, there are rich and poor in all countries. It is simply an excuse to rob people. It makes me so sad to read about these stories and specially in terms of spiritual pursuits. Why not let people simply give more if they want to, and if they can afford it. I am sure that some people would, if they could truly afford it and found genuine reasons to give more, that would make it a pleasurable thing to do, instead of a journey to a country where one feels all the time that people are trying to rob you. I am sorry to go on like this but I have been interested in going to India all my life, but each time I hear of people being 'fleeced' it completely puts me off as I do not know how I would survive in that situation. I cannot afford to go there easily, it will cost me a lot of money and I do not have much money to spare, and certainly cannot afford to be 'fleeced' every 5 minutes. It seems to happen all the time there that people are overcharged for everything with this 'excuse' that everyone else has 'more money'. It would be nice if life was that simple. Crystal - Sunny Sunny Tuesday, July 15, 2008 6:02 PM Re: Naadi Astrologer in Chennai Hi Leslie , Yes ...I have visited this center. I can only talk of my experience which may differ from many others. My experience was not a pleasant one. While the reader who read the leaf I went for was okay but the charges "tripled" by the time it was translated and a new person was sent to read the translations written for my hard copy. The tall in-house English language translator was mainly hovering around shanti deeksha and its importance. I was getting strong indirect signals to have it done by the center. My tamil speaking friend who accompanied me in Cennai also overhead the translator saying that I should be charged more. The Naadi idetification process was correct initially but when translation on the book was read it had few errors which shook my confidence in the staff working there. I did remind them on the pious work they were doing and requested them to be mindful of the opportunity they had in reading the great work of the Maharishis. This did make them stick to their original charges. I am assuming that the charges simply trebled due to me being a foreigner.Many may say that we have a higher earning capacity thus shud pay more. I also hope the same 'many' arrange better seating in the 6ft waiting verandah before the opening of the service and suggest for a cleaner waiting room for 'triple' paying customers. I did not proceed with other three reading which I had planned for. Maybe the maharishis realised the potential of me being fleeced thus had me leave after the first one. My recomendation to you Leslie is to go there early in the morning , be prepared to be standing for some time and clarify charges during thumb impressions. Make sure you go with a local who can speak your language and the local one also......that is if you decide to go ! There are many other reputable centres in naadi so pls check the forum database and buy the book written by Shashikant Oak which will cost you on 99Rupees which has many addresses. I pray that you do find the intended leaves. regards. --- On Mon, 14/7/08, Leslie Neo <leslieneo2103@ . sg> wrote: Leslie Neo <leslieneo2103@ . sg> Naadi Astrologer in ChennaiReceived: Monday, 14 July, 2008, 10:18 PM Hi,May I know whether has anybody visited agathiyar durai subburathinamchief Naadi Astrologer in Chennai ?Will appreciate if you can share your experience.Regards,Leslie Start at the new 7 for a better online experience - Start Here. Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group. 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