Re:Naadi leaves tested for past 10 years

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Hi,

 

I have been refering to Naadi leaves for last 10 years and most of the

prediction have been true, this is not just the case with me but with

lots of my friends who have approached Naadi after sharing my

experience. I am interested in this poll to know about other peoples

experience.

 

a) My suggestion is that to get the correct reading, you should follow

a correct Naadi reader who will translate verses as mentioned in the

naadi and not try to add his own meaning to it.

 

b) Refer to the naadi only if you have faith in the system to follow

it and if you are prepared to do the remedies. I have seen people

spending from 1500 to at times upto 5 digit figures for their remedies

to get their karma rectified.

 

The principle behind the remedies are mainly

1. Daana (charity) has the maximum effect in Kaliyuga

2. God alone has the power to alleviate you from the suffering

3. The rishi through the leaf is guiding you so that you can reach

almighty.

 

 

This is purely my understanding and Opinion:

Most of the people who reach the naadi leaf would have referred to

leaves in their past birth also and that it is a continuous process.

The sapta rishi's are suppose to guide the people and help the dharma

of the earth, they do this irrespective of the yuga and will also help

people in this process so that they also at one point contribute to

this process of maintaining the dharma of the world. They do this till

the system for which they are the " Sapt-rishi's " exist and after that

once their work is over for this system, they move to the next realm.

Naadi leaves have never required and will never require an advertising

medium , the people who have their naadi will reach the leaves. In my

experience we have seen people wait for almost an year to get the leaf.

 

Scope of freewill: Maharishi guide you to understand the working of

freewill, they help you in taking the decision. The naadi doesnot stop

you in taking decisions.

 

This is purely my understanding and Opinion, the same can be tested:

Being into astrology i think this thumb hand rule will work in most of

the cases:

a) If you have more planets in your rashi chart in the house 3,6,11

from the lagna - the level of free will is more so the maharishi will

guide to take decision. Naadi in this case helps you in taking

informed decisions.

 

b) If you have more planets in your rashi chart in the house 1,4,7,10

than 3,6,11 from the lagna- your destiny is as impelled by the

planets so naadi readings will match almost 100%

 

Other forms of Naadi:

The copper plates of Orissa have been giving readings for generations

now and i dont think most of the people have heard about this. This

includes remedies for diseases,day to day problems, missing items but

the plates have remained within the guru shishya parampara and are

open for public scrutiny. The plates have been discovered across

orissa at different points of time as destined and are called " Pothi " .

 

Why naadi readings differ: I do not use the word fail, i feel it is

incorrect and most of the time we are momentary testers ( at most we

see in our own life).

 

a) We take decisions differently after knowing them.

b) We think naadi reader is minting money on the name of our sins

c) We do not believe in people whome we dont know

d) Naadi gives a reading that we do not like.

e) We do not take steps as per naadi readings - In one case the naadi

reader said if you take steps (initiative tamil word " muyurchi " ) you

will get this result, the reader said you will get married, the person

assumed he will get married but event did not take place. - When the

person was sharing this experience with me , we reran the cassette to

hear what was said and it was clear in seconds. so i strongly suggest

get the recordings done word by word as it is and spend time with your

translator understanding it do get a reading done in a flash since you

have to catch your flight/train/bus or any other appointment.

 

Some other suggestion again its from my own experience - I have been

associated to naadi for a long time now and being involved in the

study of astrology for a equally long time, this is what i feel.I

would also like to know if others have shared this experience.

 

a) Naadi reader should have faith in god and should not just be a just

a facilitator - Please make sure you personally take time and go to

the reader and you feel it is important. Dont go to reader just

because you want a job in pricewater house the next day. Please dont

do this, naadi is for atmakaraka and not for knowing the next day

stock index. NAADI IS NOT TO DO WITH PREDICTIONS IT IS ABOUT GUIDING

YOU TO THE NEXT LEVEL OF LIFE.

 

b)Do not get your readings done during Dayrise, Mid afternoon, Sunset

time - i do not have a scientific reasoning behind this but i have

seen in most case either the readings have lots of karma involved in

it and are unclear. Always have the readings searched and listen to it

before sunset.

 

c) Pray and develop the questions in your mind, before you go - Do not

go in front of the naadi and then think what i want to know. Think the

questions over a week and remove the not necessary and unclear ones or

keep them as secondary. If you do this your readings will give you a

lot better effect. I have seen this is cases of people with lots of

problems , they did this and the solutions they got changed their

life. I donot believe in asking 5 questions limit, on your day you can

ask 1000 questions and their is no limit , the reader can stop only if

the rishi stops or you stop.

 

d) Please try and carry some fruits,some flower,incense sticks and

place it before naadi before the reading - i recommend this more in

case you get a Jeeva naadi reading done. Please note i have not

written money. This is for the naadi and rishi , we asking for a

favour from the rishi and not a service from company , we have to be

humble.

 

e) Naadi is not a turnkey solution , its a experience - You can have

it only if you experience , reading the blogs will not suffice , every

experience is unique.

 

f) Jeeva naadi - If you get a Jeev naadi reading done , your life

changes the same day(infact moment) no doubts in it. The leaf set is

rare and is not present for everybody. People who have Jeev Naadi have

a purpose to solve in this birth. Do not force your reader to trace a

Jeeva naadi for you. The methodology for Jeeva naadi reading is

different and so also its scope and implementing it in ones life.

Search it once you have had a few readings done and have started to

trust the naadi. But in case the rishi says " There are still lots more

readings for you " or " I am happy to tell you anytime " , then request

your reader to start searching for the leaf - 9/10 you have a Jeeva

naadi leaf for sure and you should try to reach it quickly though you

will reach it only when destined. Also Jeeva naadi readers are rare

and if a Jeeva naadi reader then he will have a spiritual bent of mind

and will be a good person.

*** Astrologically such a reader will doing readings during the dasa

of a strong D-24 planet related to his 5th house - i will be happy if

others can also test this, if they have astrological interest and

share their experience.

 

g)Remedies - Many times i see people saying that the remedies are

costly, but i think it is a better exercise to ask the opinion of the

people who have done it, do they think so? However it is a debatable

question.

What i have seen is naadi is not a shortcut to remedies, in ones life

we accrue a series of sin , if cleared from one sin the next one comes

up the surface naturally as one layer is cleared.So after a period of

time the leaf will suggest you the next measure when the rishi thinks

you have chances of clearing it in this birth and that is in fact the

purpose of naadi , if you want to get out of the circle of birth and

death. The shanti and deeksha is always for the strongest curse

prevalent on your birth, this could be your previous birth, 3 births

prior to this so on. - So remedies have always been helpful and more

authentic in naadi and they will always be in your capacity but will

take effort. A man earning a four digit salary will get it in thousand

s and the purpose is that when doing the daana he remembers the

mistake and prays from the bottom of his heart.Secondly if at all it

is beyond your limits maybe if the curse is stronger then please do

not hesitate to open your prasna kandam and ask for directions to do

it in smaller parts and within in limits, do not put your ego and try

to say naadi might not work. In many cases i have seen rishis

suggesting the alternate , and their is a valid provision but the urge

has to be genuine if you can afford and you want to try and sneak a

better package , trust me you will be in a tight spot. If you dont

think you should ask for forgiveness for the karma mentioned and cant

relate it , then i suggest dont do the remedies till you can relate to

it, it will not fructify or give effect. The effect will come only

after you can relate to your karma and seek relief to it. But as a

rule do refer to the rishi again whenever you plan to do it again.

 

In most cases the rishi will tell you the time period when to do the

remedy , in cases not mentioned please find out in prasna and then do

it so that you start it on a time where you face the lesser amount of

problems.

 

At times the gochara of planets are not supporting you and if you are

facing problems , then also you can try to find you leaf and ask the

rishi to suggest you remedies, i have seen very less people ask for

these remedies but since the count is just 3 i leave it open for

judgement.

 

 

In the end i am attaching my reader reference, anyone can try reaching

him, though people from non-tamil background should have there own

translators:

 

S.SatyaMoorthy (Satya)

112/A, P.S. Sivasamy salai,

First floor, Opp: Vivekananda College , Mylapore, Chennai.

Phone:044-24661754

 

In the end , if you can send me your,

Birth detail ( date of birth, time of birth, place of birth, couple of

events with date and time) and a small gist of your reading which can

be shared and taken up for astrological research with the astrological

community i will be greatful to you.

 

 

Thanks

Prem

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " Rishi Prasad "

<rishiprasad wrote:

>

> dear group,

> has anyone had a 100% satisfactory experience with any nadi reader

till now?

> not that im running the science/art/study down, i just want to know.

i have

> unfortunately not been able to find any genuine or sincere nadi

> reader/practitioner still.

> rishi

>

> 2008/5/10 aries <waryaries:

>

> > Dear Nitin ,

> >

> > I really don't understand why you want to play the PRO of

Shashikant Oak ,

> > It was not Rohit who said it was art , it was someone else who

quoted a

> > Naadi reader .

> >

> > If you know " Naadi Shastra " can you please explain it , the general

> > consensus of the forum is Naadi is not Shaastra !!

> >

> > Please do not juxtapose - saying something about Mr. Oak is saying

against

> > Naadi , how did you come to a conclusion ( Naadi= Mr.Oak ) like

that ?

> >

> >

> > -Aries

> >

> >

> > *nitin jain <ecstacymaster* wrote:

> >

> > *dear rohit

> > recently you said nadi reading is an art.it can be learned.

> > now u r saying it has no ground rules and is just based on faith and

> > miracle.

> > What is ur opinion actually ?

> > or r u only in the business of maligning nadi shastra and

shashikantji ?

> >

> >

> >

> > *

> >

> >

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Excellent post, By making Samyama on word, meaning and knowledge, which are ordinarily confused, comes the knowledge of all animal sounds. The word represents the external

cause, the meaning represents the internal vibration that travels to the brain through the channels of the Indriyas, conveying the external impression to the mind, and knowledge represents the reaction of the mind, with which comes perception. These three, confused, make our sense-objects. Suppose I hear a word; there is first the external vibration, next the internal sensation carried to the mind by the organ of hearing, then the mind reacts, and I know the word. The word I know is a mixture of the three — vibration, sensation, and reaction. Ordinarily these three are inseparable; but by practice the Yogi can separate them. When a man has attained to this, if he makes a Samyama on any sound, he understands the meaning which that sound was intended to express, whether it was made by man or be any other animal. By perceiving the impressions,

(comes) the knowledge of past life. Each experience that we have, comes in the form of a wave in the Chitta, and this subsides and becomes finer and finer, but is never lost. It remains there in minute form, and if we can bring this wave up again, it becomes memory. So, if the Yogi can make a Samyama on these past impressions in the mind, he will begin to remember all his past lives. By making Samyama on the signs in another's body, knowledge of his mind comes. Each man has particular signs on his body, which differentiate him from others; when the Yogi makes a Samyama on these signs he knows the nature of the mind of that person. But not its contents, that not being the object of the Samyama. He would not know the

contents of the mind by making a Samyama on the body. There would be required a twofold Samyama, first on the signs in the body, and then on the mind itself. The Yogi would then know everything that is in that mind. By making Samyama on the form of the body, the perceptibility of the form being obstructed and the power of manifestation in the eye being separated, the Yogi's body becomes unseen. A Yogi standing in the midst of this room can apparently vanish. He does not really vanish, but he will not be seen by anyone. The form and the body are, as it were, separated. You must remember that this can only be done when the Yogi has attained to that power of concentration when form and the thing formed have been separated. Then he makes a Samyama on that, and the power to perceive forms is

obstructed, because the power of perceiving forms comes from the junction of form and the thing formed. By this the disappearance or concealment of words which are being spoken and such other things are also explained. Karma is of two kinds — soon to be fructified and late to be fructified. By making Samyana on these, or by the signs called Arishta, portents, the Yogis know the exact time of separation from their bodies. When a Yogi makes a Samyama on his own Karma, upon those impressions in his mind which are now working, and those which are just waiting to work, he knows exactly by those that are waiting when his body will fall. He knows when he will die, at what hour, even at what

minute. The Hindus think very much of that knowledge or consciousness of the nearness of death, because it is taught in the Gita that the thoughts at the moment of departure are great powers in determining the next life. By making Samyama on friendship, mercy, etc. (I. 33), the Yogi excels in the respective qualities. By making Samyama on the strength of the elephant and others, their respective strength comes to the Yogi. When a Yogi has attained to this Samyama and wants strength, he makes a Samyama on the strength of the elephant and gets it. Infinite energy is at the disposal of everyone if he only knows how to get it. The Yogi has discovered the science of getting it. By making Samyama on the Effulgent Light (I. 36), comes the knowledge of the fine, the obstructed, and the remote. When the Yogi makes Samyama on that Effulgent Light in the heart, he sees things which are very remote, things, for instance, that are happening in a distant place, and which are obstructed by mountain barriers, and also things which are very fine. By making Samyama on the sun, (comes) the knowledge of the world. On the moon, (comes) the knowledge of the cluster of stars. On the pole-star, (comes) the knowledge of the motions of the

stars. On the navel circle, (comes) the knowledge of the constitution of the body. On the hollow of the throat, (comes) cessation of hunger. When a man is very hungry, if he can make Samyama on the hollow of the throat, hunger ceases. On the nerve called Kurma, (comes) fixity of the body. When he is practising, the body is not disturbed. More will come, Best Wishes shortcut <shortcutfromdos wrote: Hi, I have been refering to Naadi leaves for last 10 years and most of theprediction have been true, this is not just the case with me but withlots of my friends who have approached Naadi after sharing myexperience. I am interested in this poll to know about other peoplesexperience. a) My suggestion is that to get the correct reading, you should followa correct Naadi reader who will translate verses as mentioned in thenaadi and not try to add his own meaning to it. b) Refer to the naadi only if you have faith in the system to followit and if you are prepared to do the remedies. I have seen peoplespending from 1500 to at times upto 5 digit figures for their remediesto get their karma rectified. The principle behind the remedies are mainly1. Daana (charity) has the maximum effect in Kaliyuga2. God alone has the power to alleviate

you from the suffering3. The rishi through the leaf is guiding you so that you can reachalmighty. This is purely my understanding and Opinion: Most of the people who reach the naadi leaf would have referred toleaves in their past birth also and that it is a continuous process.The sapta rishi's are suppose to guide the people and help the dharmaof the earth, they do this irrespective of the yuga and will also helppeople in this process so that they also at one point contribute tothis process of maintaining the dharma of the world. They do this tillthe system for which they are the "Sapt-rishi's" exist and after thatonce their work is over for this system, they move to the next realm.Naadi leaves have never required and will never require an advertisingmedium , the people who have their naadi will reach the leaves. In myexperience we have seen people wait for almost an year to get the leaf. Scope of

freewill: Maharishi guide you to understand the working offreewill, they help you in taking the decision. The naadi doesnot stopyou in taking decisions. This is purely my understanding and Opinion, the same can be tested: Being into astrology i think this thumb hand rule will work in most ofthe cases:a) If you have more planets in your rashi chart in the house 3,6,11from the lagna - the level of free will is more so the maharishi willguide to take decision. Naadi in this case helps you in takinginformed decisions.b) If you have more planets in your rashi chart in the house 1,4,7,10than 3,6,11 from the lagna- your destiny is as impelled by theplanets so naadi readings will match almost 100%Other forms of Naadi: The copper plates of Orissa have been giving readings for generationsnow and i dont think most of the people have heard about this. Thisincludes remedies for diseases,day to day problems,

missing items butthe plates have remained within the guru shishya parampara and areopen for public scrutiny. The plates have been discovered acrossorissa at different points of time as destined and are called "Pothi".Why naadi readings differ: I do not use the word fail, i feel it isincorrect and most of the time we are momentary testers ( at most wesee in our own life). a) We take decisions differently after knowing them.b) We think naadi reader is minting money on the name of our sinsc) We do not believe in people whome we dont knowd) Naadi gives a reading that we do not like.e) We do not take steps as per naadi readings - In one case the naadireader said if you take steps (initiative tamil word "muyurchi") youwill get this result, the reader said you will get married, the personassumed he will get married but event did not take place. - When theperson was sharing this experience with me , we reran the

cassette tohear what was said and it was clear in seconds. so i strongly suggestget the recordings done word by word as it is and spend time with yourtranslator understanding it do get a reading done in a flash since youhave to catch your flight/train/bus or any other appointment.Some other suggestion again its from my own experience - I have beenassociated to naadi for a long time now and being involved in thestudy of astrology for a equally long time, this is what i feel.Iwould also like to know if others have shared this experience.a) Naadi reader should have faith in god and should not just be a justa facilitator - Please make sure you personally take time and go tothe reader and you feel it is important. Dont go to reader justbecause you want a job in pricewater house the next day. Please dontdo this, naadi is for atmakaraka and not for knowing the next daystock index. NAADI IS NOT TO DO WITH

PREDICTIONS IT IS ABOUT GUIDINGYOU TO THE NEXT LEVEL OF LIFE. b)Do not get your readings done during Dayrise, Mid afternoon, Sunsettime - i do not have a scientific reasoning behind this but i haveseen in most case either the readings have lots of karma involved init and are unclear. Always have the readings searched and listen to itbefore sunset.c) Pray and develop the questions in your mind, before you go - Do notgo in front of the naadi and then think what i want to know. Think thequestions over a week and remove the not necessary and unclear ones orkeep them as secondary. If you do this your readings will give you alot better effect. I have seen this is cases of people with lots ofproblems , they did this and the solutions they got changed theirlife. I donot believe in asking 5 questions limit, on your day you canask 1000 questions and their is no limit , the reader can stop only ifthe rishi stops or

you stop.d) Please try and carry some fruits,some flower,incense sticks andplace it before naadi before the reading - i recommend this more incase you get a Jeeva naadi reading done. Please note i have notwritten money. This is for the naadi and rishi , we asking for afavour from the rishi and not a service from company , we have to behumble. e) Naadi is not a turnkey solution , its a experience - You can haveit only if you experience , reading the blogs will not suffice , everyexperience is unique.f) Jeeva naadi - If you get a Jeev naadi reading done , your lifechanges the same day(infact moment) no doubts in it. The leaf set israre and is not present for everybody. People who have Jeev Naadi havea purpose to solve in this birth. Do not force your reader to trace aJeeva naadi for you. The methodology for Jeeva naadi reading isdifferent and so also its scope and implementing it in ones life.Search

it once you have had a few readings done and have started totrust the naadi. But in case the rishi says "There are still lots morereadings for you" or "I am happy to tell you anytime", then requestyour reader to start searching for the leaf - 9/10 you have a Jeevanaadi leaf for sure and you should try to reach it quickly though youwill reach it only when destined. Also Jeeva naadi readers are rareand if a Jeeva naadi reader then he will have a spiritual bent of mindand will be a good person. *** Astrologically such a reader will doing readings during the dasaof a strong D-24 planet related to his 5th house - i will be happy ifothers can also test this, if they have astrological interest andshare their experience. g)Remedies - Many times i see people saying that the remedies arecostly, but i think it is a better exercise to ask the opinion of thepeople who have done it, do they think so? However it is a

debatablequestion. What i have seen is naadi is not a shortcut to remedies, in ones lifewe accrue a series of sin , if cleared from one sin the next one comesup the surface naturally as one layer is cleared.So after a period oftime the leaf will suggest you the next measure when the rishi thinksyou have chances of clearing it in this birth and that is in fact thepurpose of naadi , if you want to get out of the circle of birth anddeath. The shanti and deeksha is always for the strongest curseprevalent on your birth, this could be your previous birth, 3 birthsprior to this so on. - So remedies have always been helpful and moreauthentic in naadi and they will always be in your capacity but willtake effort. A man earning a four digit salary will get it in thousands and the purpose is that when doing the daana he remembers themistake and prays from the bottom of his heart.Secondly if at all itis beyond your limits

maybe if the curse is stronger then please donot hesitate to open your prasna kandam and ask for directions to doit in smaller parts and within in limits, do not put your ego and tryto say naadi might not work. In many cases i have seen rishissuggesting the alternate , and their is a valid provision but the urgehas to be genuine if you can afford and you want to try and sneak abetter package , trust me you will be in a tight spot. If you dontthink you should ask for forgiveness for the karma mentioned and cantrelate it , then i suggest dont do the remedies till you can relate toit, it will not fructify or give effect. The effect will come onlyafter you can relate to your karma and seek relief to it. But as arule do refer to the rishi again whenever you plan to do it again. In most cases the rishi will tell you the time period when to do theremedy , in cases not mentioned please find out in prasna and then doit so

that you start it on a time where you face the lesser amount ofproblems.At times the gochara of planets are not supporting you and if you arefacing problems , then also you can try to find you leaf and ask therishi to suggest you remedies, i have seen very less people ask forthese remedies but since the count is just 3 i leave it open forjudgement. In the end i am attaching my reader reference, anyone can try reachinghim, though people from non-tamil background should have there owntranslators:S.SatyaMoorthy (Satya)112/A, P.S. Sivasamy salai,First floor, Opp: Vivekananda College , Mylapore, Chennai.Phone:044-24661754In the end , if you can send me your, Birth detail ( date of birth, time of birth, place of birth, couple ofevents with date and time) and a small gist of your reading which canbe shared and taken up for astrological research with the astrologicalcommunity i will be greatful

to you.ThanksPrem , "Rishi Prasad"<rishiprasad wrote:>> dear group,> has anyone had a 100% satisfactory experience with any nadi readertill now?> not that im running the science/art/study down, i just want to know.i have> unfortunately not been able to find any genuine or sincere nadi> reader/practitioner still.> rishi> > 2008/5/10 aries <waryaries:> > > Dear Nitin ,> >> > I really don't understand why you want to play the PRO ofShashikant Oak ,> > It was not Rohit who said it was art , it was someone else whoquoted a> > Naadi reader .> >> > If you know " Naadi Shastra " can you please explain it , the general> > consensus of the forum is Naadi is not

Shaastra !!> >> > Please do not juxtapose - saying something about Mr. Oak is sayingagainst> > Naadi , how did you come to a conclusion ( Naadi= Mr.Oak ) likethat ?> >> >> > -Aries> >> >> > *nitin jain <ecstacymaster* wrote:> >> > *dear rohit> > recently you said nadi reading is an art.it can be learned.> > now u r saying it has no ground rules and is just based on faith and> > miracle.> > What is ur opinion actually ?> > or r u only in the business of maligning nadi shastra andshashikantji ?> >> >> >> > *> >> >> > ------------------------------> > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile.Try it> >now.<http://us.rd./evt=51733/*http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ>> > > >> > > > -- > Rishi> www.rishiprasad.com>

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~Rohit~ <rrohit_123Re: Re:Naadi leaves tested for past 10 years Date: Sunday, May 11, 2008, 9:33 PM

 

 

 

Excellent post,

 

By making Samyama on word, meaning and knowledge, which are ordinarily confused, comes the knowledge of all animal sounds.

The word represents the external cause, the meaning represents the internal vibration that travels to the brain through the channels of the Indriyas, conveying the external impression to the mind, and knowledge represents the reaction of the mind, with which comes perception. These three, confused, make our sense-objects. Suppose I hear a word; there is first the external vibration, next the internal sensation carried to the mind by the organ of hearing, then the mind reacts, and I know the word. The word I know is a mixture of the three — vibration, sensation, and reaction. Ordinarily these three are inseparable; but by practice the Yogi can separate them. When a man has attained to this, if he makes a Samyama on any sound, he understands the meaning which that sound was intended to express, whether it was made by man or be any other animal.

By perceiving the impressions, (comes) the knowledge of past life. Each experience that we have, comes in the form of a wave in the Chitta, and this subsides and becomes finer and finer, but is never lost. It remains there in minute form, and if we can bring this wave up again, it becomes memory. So, if the Yogi can make a Samyama on these past impressions in the mind, he will begin to remember all his past lives.

By making Samyama on the signs in another's body, knowledge of his mind comes. Each man has particular signs on his body, which differentiate him from others; when the Yogi makes a Samyama on these signs he knows the nature of the mind of that person.

But not its contents, that not being the object of the Samyama. He would not know the contents of the mind by making a Samyama on the body. There would be required a twofold Samyama, first on the signs in the body, and then on the mind itself. The Yogi would then know everything that is in that mind.

By making Samyama on the form of the body, the perceptibility of the form being obstructed and the power of manifestation in the eye being separated, the Yogi's body becomes unseen.

A Yogi standing in the midst of this room can apparently vanish. He does not really vanish, but he will not be seen by anyone. The form and the body are, as it were, separated. You must remember that this can only be done when the Yogi has attained to that power of concentration when form and the thing formed have been separated. Then he makes a Samyama on that, and the power to perceive forms is obstructed, because the power of perceiving forms comes from the junction of form and the thing formed.

By this the disappearance or concealment of words which are being spoken and such other things are also explained.

Karma is of two kinds — soon to be fructified and late to be fructified. By making Samyana on these, or by the signs called Arishta, portents, the Yogis know the exact time of separation from their bodies.

When a Yogi makes a Samyama on his own Karma, upon those impressions in his mind which are now working, and those which are just waiting to work, he knows exactly by those that are waiting when his body will fall. He knows when he will die, at what hour, even at what minute. The Hindus think very much of that knowledge or consciousness of the nearness of death, because it is taught in the Gita that the thoughts at the moment of departure are great powers in determining the next life.

By making Samyama on friendship, mercy, etc. (I. 33), the Yogi excels in the respective qualities.

By making Samyama on the strength of the elephant and others, their respective strength comes to the Yogi.

When a Yogi has attained to this Samyama and wants strength, he makes a Samyama on the strength of the elephant and gets it.. Infinite energy is at the disposal of everyone if he only knows how to get it. The Yogi has discovered the science of getting it.

By making Samyama on the Effulgent Light (I. 36), comes the knowledge of the fine, the obstructed, and the remote.

When the Yogi makes Samyama on that Effulgent Light in the heart, he sees things which are very remote, things, for instance, that are happening in a distant place, and which are obstructed by mountain barriers, and also things which are very fine.

By making Samyama on the sun, (comes) the knowledge of the world. On the moon, (comes) the knowledge of the cluster of stars. On the pole-star, (comes) the knowledge of the motions of the stars. On the navel circle, (comes) the knowledge of the constitution of the body. On the hollow of the throat, (comes) cessation of hunger. When a man is very hungry, if he can make Samyama on the hollow of the throat, hunger ceases. On the nerve called Kurma, (comes) fixity of the body. When he is practising, the body is not disturbed.

 

 

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Hi, I have been refering to Naadi leaves for last 10 years and most of theprediction have been true, this is not just the case with me but withlots of my friends who have approached Naadi after sharing myexperience. I am interested in this poll to know about other peoplesexperience. a) My suggestion is that to get the correct reading, you should followa correct Naadi reader who will translate verses as mentioned in thenaadi and not try to add his own meaning to it. b) Refer to the naadi only if you have faith in the system to followit and if you are prepared to do the remedies. I have seen peoplespending from 1500 to at times upto 5 digit figures for their remediesto get their karma rectified. The principle behind the remedies are mainly1.. Daana (charity) has the maximum effect in Kaliyuga2. God alone has the power to alleviate you from the suffering3. The rishi through

the leaf is guiding you so that you can reachalmighty. This is purely my understanding and Opinion: Most of the people who reach the naadi leaf would have referred toleaves in their past birth also and that it is a continuous process.The sapta rishi's are suppose to guide the people and help the dharmaof the earth, they do this irrespective of the yuga and will also helppeople in this process so that they also at one point contribute tothis process of maintaining the dharma of the world. They do this tillthe system for which they are the "Sapt-rishi' s" exist and after thatonce their work is over for this system, they move to the next realm.Naadi leaves have never required and will never require an advertisingmedium , the people who have their naadi will reach the leaves. In myexperience we have seen people wait for almost an year to get the leaf. Scope of freewill: Maharishi guide you to

understand the working offreewill, they help you in taking the decision. The naadi doesnot stopyou in taking decisions. This is purely my understanding and Opinion, the same can be tested: Being into astrology i think this thumb hand rule will work in most ofthe cases:a) If you have more planets in your rashi chart in the house 3,6,11from the lagna - the level of free will is more so the maharishi willguide to take decision. Naadi in this case helps you in takinginformed decisions.b) If you have more planets in your rashi chart in the house 1,4,7,10than 3,6,11 from the lagna- your destiny is as impelled by theplanets so naadi readings will match almost 100%Other forms of Naadi: The copper plates of Orissa have been giving readings for generationsnow and i dont think most of the people have heard about this. Thisincludes remedies for diseases,day to day problems, missing items

butthe plates have remained within the guru shishya parampara and areopen for public scrutiny. The plates have been discovered acrossorissa at different points of time as destined and are called "Pothi".Why naadi readings differ: I do not use the word fail, i feel it isincorrect and most of the time we are momentary testers ( at most wesee in our own life). a) We take decisions differently after knowing them.b) We think naadi reader is minting money on the name of our sinsc) We do not believe in people whome we dont knowd) Naadi gives a reading that we do not like.e) We do not take steps as per naadi readings - In one case the naadireader said if you take steps (initiative tamil word "muyurchi") youwill get this result, the reader said you will get married, the personassumed he will get married but event did not take place. - When theperson was sharing this experience with me , we reran

the cassette tohear what was said and it was clear in seconds. so i strongly suggestget the recordings done word by word as it is and spend time with yourtranslator understanding it do get a reading done in a flash since youhave to catch your flight/train/ bus or any other appointment.Some other suggestion again its from my own experience - I have beenassociated to naadi for a long time now and being involved in thestudy of astrology for a equally long time, this is what i feel.Iwould also like to know if others have shared this experience.a) Naadi reader should have faith in god and should not just be a justa facilitator - Please make sure you personally take time and go tothe reader and you feel it is important. Dont go to reader justbecause you want a job in pricewater house the next day. Please dontdo this, naadi is for atmakaraka and not for knowing the next daystock index. NAADI IS

NOT TO DO WITH PREDICTIONS IT IS ABOUT GUIDINGYOU TO THE NEXT LEVEL OF LIFE. b)Do not get your readings done during Dayrise, Mid afternoon, Sunsettime - i do not have a scientific reasoning behind this but i haveseen in most case either the readings have lots of karma involved init and are unclear. Always have the readings searched and listen to itbefore sunset.c) Pray and develop the questions in your mind, before you go - Do notgo in front of the naadi and then think what i want to know. Think thequestions over a week and remove the not necessary and unclear ones orkeep them as secondary. If you do this your readings will give you alot better effect. I have seen this is cases of people with lots ofproblems , they did this and the solutions they got changed theirlife. I donot believe in asking 5 questions limit, on your day you canask 1000 questions and their is no limit , the reader can

stop only ifthe rishi stops or you stop.d) Please try and carry some fruits,some flower,incense sticks andplace it before naadi before the reading - i recommend this more incase you get a Jeeva naadi reading done. Please note i have notwritten money. This is for the naadi and rishi , we asking for afavour from the rishi and not a service from company , we have to behumble. e) Naadi is not a turnkey solution , its a experience - You can haveit only if you experience , reading the blogs will not suffice , everyexperience is unique.f) Jeeva naadi - If you get a Jeev naadi reading done , your lifechanges the same day(infact moment) no doubts in it. The leaf set israre and is not present for everybody. People who have Jeev Naadi havea purpose to solve in this birth. Do not force your reader to trace aJeeva naadi for you. The methodology for Jeeva naadi reading isdifferent and so also

its scope and implementing it in ones life.Search it once you have had a few readings done and have started totrust the naadi. But in case the rishi says "There are still lots morereadings for you" or "I am happy to tell you anytime", then requestyour reader to start searching for the leaf - 9/10 you have a Jeevanaadi leaf for sure and you should try to reach it quickly though youwill reach it only when destined. Also Jeeva naadi readers are rareand if a Jeeva naadi reader then he will have a spiritual bent of mindand will be a good person. *** Astrologically such a reader will doing readings during the dasaof a strong D-24 planet related to his 5th house - i will be happy ifothers can also test this, if they have astrological interest andshare their experience. g)Remedies - Many times i see people saying that the remedies arecostly, but i think it is a better exercise to ask the opinion of

thepeople who have done it, do they think so? However it is a debatablequestion. What i have seen is naadi is not a shortcut to remedies, in ones lifewe accrue a series of sin , if cleared from one sin the next one comesup the surface naturally as one layer is cleared.So after a period oftime the leaf will suggest you the next measure when the rishi thinksyou have chances of clearing it in this birth and that is in fact thepurpose of naadi , if you want to get out of the circle of birth anddeath. The shanti and deeksha is always for the strongest curseprevalent on your birth, this could be your previous birth, 3 birthsprior to this so on. - So remedies have always been helpful and moreauthentic in naadi and they will always be in your capacity but willtake effort. A man earning a four digit salary will get it in thousands and the purpose is that when doing the daana he remembers themistake and

prays from the bottom of his heart.Secondly if at all itis beyond your limits maybe if the curse is stronger then please donot hesitate to open your prasna kandam and ask for directions to doit in smaller parts and within in limits, do not put your ego and tryto say naadi might not work. In many cases i have seen rishissuggesting the alternate , and their is a valid provision but the urgehas to be genuine if you can afford and you want to try and sneak abetter package , trust me you will be in a tight spot. If you dontthink you should ask for forgiveness for the karma mentioned and cantrelate it , then i suggest dont do the remedies till you can relate toit, it will not fructify or give effect. The effect will come onlyafter you can relate to your karma and seek relief to it. But as arule do refer to the rishi again whenever you plan to do it again. In most cases the rishi will tell you the time

period when to do theremedy , in cases not mentioned please find out in prasna and then doit so that you start it on a time where you face the lesser amount ofproblems.At times the gochara of planets are not supporting you and if you arefacing problems , then also you can try to find you leaf and ask therishi to suggest you remedies, i have seen very less people ask forthese remedies but since the count is just 3 i leave it open forjudgement. In the end i am attaching my reader reference, anyone can try reachinghim, though people from non-tamil background should have there owntranslators:S.SatyaMoorthy (Satya)112/A, P.S. Sivasamy salai,First floor, Opp: Vivekananda College , Mylapore, Chennai.Phone:044-24661754In the end , if you can send me your, Birth detail ( date of birth, time of birth, place of birth, couple ofevents with date and time) and a small gist of your

reading which canbe shared and taken up for astrological research with the astrologicalcommunity i will be greatful to you.ThanksPrem, "Rishi Prasad"<rishiprasad@ ...> wrote:>> dear group,> has anyone had a 100% satisfactory experience with any nadi readertill now?> not that im running the science/art/ study down, i just want to know.i have> unfortunately not been able to find any genuine or sincere nadi> reader/practitioner still.> rishi> > 2008/5/10 aries <waryaries@. ..>:> > > Dear Nitin ,> >> > I really don't understand why you want to play the PRO ofShashikant Oak ,> > It was not Rohit who said it was art , it was someone else whoquoted a> > Naadi reader

..> >> > If you know " Naadi Shastra " can you please explain it , the general> > consensus of the forum is Naadi is not Shaastra !!> >> > Please do not juxtapose - saying something about Mr. Oak is sayingagainst> > Naadi , how did you come to a conclusion ( Naadi= Mr.Oak ) likethat ?> >> >> > -Aries> >> >> > *nitin jain <ecstacymaster@ ...>* wrote:> >> > *dear rohit> > recently you said nadi reading is an art.it can be learned.> > now u r saying it has no ground rules and is just based on faith and> > miracle.> > What is ur opinion actually ?> > or r u only in the business of maligning nadi shastra andshashikantji ?> >> >> >> > *> >> >> > ------------ --------- --------->

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