Guest guest Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 Namaste. I appreciate your keenness in trying to debate the meaning of the fundamental word " nadi " which so happens to be the main topic & name of this group. Please refer - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nadi_(yoga) I quote from wikipedia here to dispel all your doubts " Nâ & #7693;i (Sanskrit: channel or vein; Tamil: psychic nerve) " .... " Amongst these ducts or nadis, three are of the utmost importance: the Medullar Shushumna....The Nadi Susumna, whose substance is the threefold Gunas, is in the middle " Nadi means " nerves " but it is not in the phsical plane, but in the pshychological plane (astral). Similarly when we talk about brahma granthi, rudra granthi, vishnu granthi we are not talking about literal physcial granthis (knots). These are psychological knots. It is maatru (kundalini) shakti that operates on these knots and takes you to higher levels of spiritual consciousness. More Later. Best Wishes. , aries <waryaries wrote: > > From Astro's mail " Literally nadi means 'nerves'. " - I was thinking Naadi means to " seek " ?? . dear matued persons are we interpreting this correct ?? ..please read and think before you guys congratulate each other . Rishi Prasad <rishiprasad wrote: > viveks maturity is so refreshing to see. the sign of a great man is not he who can shout down all others but he who after the shouting is done has the courage to befriend his adversary. more power to you vivek. now lets all grow together in knowledge. > rishi > > 2008/5/10 Vivek Khurana <vivekkhurana: > Dear Sir > > Absolutely true. However, I would request you to calm down and forgive and forget. > > May be this was the Almighty's way of making you the medium to give knowledge to me. I have found the text written below to be extremely interesting and please don't mind if I write to you directly. > > Best Regards. > > Vivek > > > > > > > svc_astro > Fri, 9 May 2008 14:21:27 +0000 > Re: Past life predictions …..No big deal ...topic to ponder on … > > > Dear Rishi/Vivek, > > Namaste. Thank you for the concurrence. The problem nowadays is that > most folks act as if they have taken the responsibility to change > every , every website and that they are the God given > gift to mankind. This just shows that their 'I' is established > firmly. What they do not realize is that an act of giving, a kind > word, a grateful deed, proper use of courteous language will go a > long way in burning their karma & building a healthy relationship > with the divine. Use of aggressive words is a sign of weakness, > insecurity & one of leading a unharmonious life. > > Coming back to the subject proper viz. " Nadi Astrology " . As per my > anubhava nadi shabda has its roots in nas (nerves). Literally nadi > means 'nerves'. Connecting it with Nadi Astrology, is is Saturn that > rules nadis. Saturn exalts in tula rasi. Tula represents the > balance. Saturn is connected with vayu in panchanga. Remember Lagna > is twacha (vayu tatva), 2nd bhava is netra (agni tatva), 3rd is > karana (ears; akaasha), 4th is nasika (nose; kshiti tatwa) and 5th > is jihba (tongue; apo tatva). Saturn is connected with nakshatra. > Mangal with vaara. Guru with akasha. Budha (mercury) with karana and > Shukra with thithi as per panchanga classification. > > Let me post some thoughts on jeeva nadi & connection with astrology > as I have some time today and am back from temple activities. > > We said above that Saturn rules nadi. Meaning the connection with > vayu element (breath; prana) is apparent. There are 3 prominent > nadis viz. ida, pingala and sushumna which are in the sookshma > shareera. The svara (breath) either flows through ida or pingala in > a jiva. This gives delusion, illusion & error. The whole aim is to > balance the breath and allow it to flow through the central nadi > system called sushumna. Once the breath begins to flow through the > central channel one begins to get guru anubhava and the nada dhvani > begins to emanate from antahkarana. Sound is a function of akash > tatva. This is the true jeeva nadi. It is through this madhyam that > the maharishis communicate to the intended sishya (nadi reader) to > give a jeeva nadi reading. We must check up Saturn in both rasi and > amsa to see link with jeeva nadi from poorva janma. Jeeva nadi > reading is direct communication channel (sushumna breathing) with > the uplink (divine). This kind of reading is given to a jeeva who is > moving from a state of tamas (ignorance; darkness) to jyoti (light). > Again, it is the maharishi who pulls the jeeva to give the reading > and is not done so as per the desire of the jeeva. In simpler words > in no way do we have any say in anything in this cosmos. We are a > reflection of our karma. When the time is right, the karma is > exhausted to a certain bandwidth, the guru will reveal to us in the > form of jeeva nadi reading or materialising or anyother means for > that matter. This means that it is pointless abandon our daily > effort in search for the unknown through nadi leaves and nadi > readings. Maharishis do not entertain abandonment of karma for > momentary gratification of senses through self desired nadi > readings. Nadi reading will come to you sitting in your house if it > is intended to. This is what I had written (implied) in my previous > postings to the group which Mr. Rohit point blank abused me for. I > took it that he did not understand a word. I remained increasingly > courteous to him. He responded back by being aggressive not only to > me but to one and all. I still wish him the all the best with all my > heart and pray that God give him the buddhi to be kind to one and > all. > > With that I rest my case and hope that there is increasing > courteousness and lesser finger pointing & agressiveness on the > group. Let us all thank the moderator/creator of this group for > giving us a brilliant platform to discuss. Let us also thank Shri > Shashikant Ji for a wonderful book that he has donated to mankind. > Let us thank the makers of the website for providing all of us a > wonderful medium to get newer research information. > > Every inch of knowledge that is received from any source must be > appreciated and thanked for..That is how it should be. > > Best Wishes. > > , " Rishi Prasad " > <rishiprasad@> wrote: > > > > namaskar, > > i would tend to agree with svc. even if my views are not in sync > with that > > of others, it is hardly appropriate to go on the offensive as > rohit has done > > and get abusive in the manner that he has done. vivek also seems > to hold the > > same point of view. i would really request everyone to not use this > > platform-to which i am absolutely new-as a means of showing their > online > > muscle or aggression. lets just talk astrology and try and learn > from each > > other.i am a professional astrologer based in delhi. but i am not > looking > > for work through this group. i would simply be happy to share the > little > > knowledge i have with anyone who might be helped by it. > > regards, > > rishi > > www.rishiprasad.com > > > > 2008/5/9 svc_astro <svc_astro@>: > > > > > Namaste. All topics are related to TRUTH. EKAM SATYA. Is it > not?! > > > Seems like I irritated you and you felt bad about the posting > that > > > was made. I am sorry if you felt that way. Please contemplate > more > > > and try to understand the post that was made rather than take > things > > > personally. You seem to be an emotional person who jumps at > > > everything. > > > > > > MODERATOR: Is this kind of outburst/abuse allowed on this group? > I am > > > hoping folks like this person are more courteous in their > exchange of > > > words & use of language. > > > > > > Best Wishes. > > > > > > <% > 40>, > > > ~Rohit~ <rrohit_123@> wrote: > > > > > > > > What rubbish is this Mr. Astro?? > > > > Can you tell me tell me single sentence out of all the 25 lines > > > you have written which is related to the topic I have posted > here? I > > > have seen your previous posts also, you reply to the posts with > the > > > rubbish which is not related to the topic which was going on. If > you > > > want to post your philosophy why don't you start a new thread and > > > invite others to comment on it. Just because you want others to > > > notice you and make you feel important why rattle a philosophy > which > > > kills the good topic started by others. > > > > > > > > My topic was about past life predictions given by even road > side > > > tellers and common people including beggars and wanted members to > > > think about it how it's possible and give their views. Can you > tell > > > me whether you have read my post at least, if yes, have you got > it > > > what it's saying? I have asked to ponder on this topic, not on > your > > > life's philosophy. Please post a new message next time you want > to > > > say something good to the forum. > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > svc_astro <svc_astro@> wrote: >>>All comments are > > > welcome. > > > > > > > > Namaste. Thank you for giving an opportunity to ponder & > express. > > > > Future is food for the mind. Past is akin to looking in the > rear > > > > view mirror and driving. Can you drive by looking at the rear > view > > > > mirror?! A true yogi is changing his bhagya (destiny) every > single > > > > breath (kshana). This is how sadhana is: the more you receive, > the > > > > more you want to do sadhana. Fruit is given as the process > takes > > > > place. You constantly want to make a greater & greater effort. > But > > > > let me tell you , it doesnt become easier. If you think the > more > > > > sadhana you do, the easier it will get you are wrong. The more > > > > sadhana you do, the more difficult it gets..but it is more > > > exciting. > > > > > > > > Do not worry about past or future in the form of nadi readings. > > > Live > > > > in the moment, the present. In this moment is the possibility > of > > > > attaining THAT..Even though Self is fully manifest within us, > it > > > > only thru awakening of Shakti and the process of sadhana that > it is > > > > revealed. Guru is trikalagyaani. It is your destiny that > brings you > > > > to the Guru to receive shaktipat, but then you must make the > right > > > > self effort to cultivate golden virtues. Without action there > can > > > be > > > > no jnaana. The crux of the matter is that nothing comes > easily. You > > > > have to work for it; you have to put the effort. It is as > simple as > > > > that. Nadi reading or not, past or future, whatever, it does > not > > > > matter..You must make the effort!! > > > > > > > > Best Wishes. > > > > > > > > <% > 40>, > > > ~Rohit~ <rrohit_123@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There seems to be general feeling of thrill in this forum > with > > > > regards to 100 percent accuracy of past predictions given by > naadi > > > > readers. This past accuracy induces the trust in seekers mind > > > > towards the naadi reader. I would like to mention that I am > not at > > > > all amazed by this past predictions thing. I have through this > > > > before accidently many times, but I am not sure of the > > > > technicalities behind this accuracy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There have been many stories told my mom, how some person > came > > > > for begging in the afternoon while I was away in school and > how he > > > > said many thing about our home ( your husband working here, how > > > many > > > > sons, daughters, son now in school, including some of the > things > > > > like yesterday you fought, your son came top in exams etc ). > But > > > > these sadhus or sometimes plain beggars can't tell anything > about > > > > future. Sometimes they even fool the people into giving them > cash. > > > > My mom got fooled once. They even know how much amount is there > > > > right now in the house. I once encountered this kind of person > in > > > my > > > > college times and drove him away. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My recent experience: I had a visit to Hyderabad to my > relatives > > > > place around 1 yr back. We were sitting in veranda when such > person > > > > came across for begging. He was dressed like half sadhu, He > started > > > > rattling same thing, all accurate to my aunt and mom. I was > > > > surprised but we have seen this before and it was not big > deal. We > > > > gave him 2 rupees and ask him to please go next door bluntly. > We > > > > went away silently. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my school days, when I visited my village, I remember > vaguely > > > > people used to come with bulls ( who were decorated and > colored ) > > > on > > > > Makar Sankranthi , stand in front of house and used to tell > some > > > > predictions like this before taking dhaan ( Usually raw rice , > > > > pulses etc). If I remember correctly bull so some kind of > dance by > > > > waving their heads and their language of poetic. It was fun > for us. > > > > Of course those predictions were accurate with regards to past. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not sure what's behind all this, may be experienced > members > > > > can throw light on this. All naadi readers I have visited told > only > > > > about my name, parent's name, date of birth etc. However above > > > > people went great lengths into the past. All comments are > welcome. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > Rohit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with > > > > Mobile. Try it now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with > Mobile. > > > Try it now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Rishi > > www.rishiprasad.com > > > > > > Skydrive - Get 5GB online space for FREE!. 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Guest guest Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 good ..thank you for the explanation . But I was asking about the meaning of Naadi in the context of Naadi Astrology . I am aware of the meaning of word Nadi as "nervous system related " but I really dont think it is the same here ....In this form of astrology it means "To Seek " or that what I read about it .svc_astro <svc_astro wrote: Namaste. I appreciate your keenness in trying to debate the meaning of the fundamental word "nadi" which so happens to be the main topic & name of this group. Please refer - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nadi_(yoga) I quote from wikipedia here to dispel all your doubts "Nâ & #7693;i (Sanskrit: channel or vein; Tamil: psychic nerve)" ...."Amongst these ducts or nadis, three are of the utmost importance: the Medullar Shushumna....The Nadi Susumna, whose substance is the threefold Gunas, is in the middle" Nadi means "nerves" but it is not in the phsical plane, but in the pshychological plane (astral). Similarly when we talk about brahma granthi, rudra granthi, vishnu granthi we are not talking about literal physcial granthis (knots). These are psychological knots. It is maatru (kundalini) shakti that operates on these knots and takes you to higher levels of spiritual consciousness. More Later. Best Wishes. , aries <waryaries wrote: > > From Astro's mail "Literally nadi means 'nerves'." - I was thinking Naadi means to "seek" ?? . dear matued persons are we interpreting this correct ?? ..please read and think before you guys congratulate each other . > > > > > > > Rishi Prasad <rishiprasad wrote: > viveks maturity is so refreshing to see. the sign of a great man is not he who can shout down all others but he who after the shouting is done has the courage to befriend his adversary. more power to you vivek. now lets all grow together in knowledge. > rishi > > 2008/5/10 Vivek Khurana <vivekkhurana: > Dear Sir > > Absolutely true. However, I would request you to calm down and forgive and forget. > > May be this was the Almighty's way of making you the medium to give knowledge to me. I have found the text written below to be extremely interesting and please don't mind if I write to you directly. > > Best Regards. > > Vivek > > > > > > > svc_astro > Fri, 9 May 2008 14:21:27 +0000 > Re: Past life predictions …..No big deal ...topic to ponder on … > > > Dear Rishi/Vivek, > > Namaste. Thank you for the concurrence. The problem nowadays is that > most folks act as if they have taken the responsibility to change > every group, every website and that they are the God given > gift to mankind. This just shows that their 'I' is established > firmly. What they do not realize is that an act of giving, a kind > word, a grateful deed, proper use of courteous language will go a > long way in burning their karma & building a healthy relationship > with the divine. Use of aggressive words is a sign of weakness, > insecurity & one of leading a unharmonious life. > > Coming back to the subject proper viz. "Nadi Astrology". As per my > anubhava nadi shabda has its roots in nas (nerves). Literally nadi > means 'nerves'. Connecting it with Nadi Astrology, is is Saturn that > rules nadis. Saturn exalts in tula rasi. Tula represents the > balance. Saturn is connected with vayu in panchanga. Remember Lagna > is twacha (vayu tatva), 2nd bhava is netra (agni tatva), 3rd is > karana (ears; akaasha), 4th is nasika (nose; kshiti tatwa) and 5th > is jihba (tongue; apo tatva). Saturn is connected with nakshatra. > Mangal with vaara. Guru with akasha. Budha (mercury) with karana and > Shukra with thithi as per panchanga classification. > > Let me post some thoughts on jeeva nadi & connection with astrology > as I have some time today and am back from temple activities. > > We said above that Saturn rules nadi. Meaning the connection with > vayu element (breath; prana) is apparent. There are 3 prominent > nadis viz. ida, pingala and sushumna which are in the sookshma > shareera. The svara (breath) either flows through ida or pingala in > a jiva. This gives delusion, illusion & error. The whole aim is to > balance the breath and allow it to flow through the central nadi > system called sushumna. Once the breath begins to flow through the > central channel one begins to get guru anubhava and the nada dhvani > begins to emanate from antahkarana. Sound is a function of akash > tatva. This is the true jeeva nadi. It is through this madhyam that > the maharishis communicate to the intended sishya (nadi reader) to > give a jeeva nadi reading. We must check up Saturn in both rasi and > amsa to see link with jeeva nadi from poorva janma. Jeeva nadi > reading is direct communication channel (sushumna breathing) with > the uplink (divine). This kind of reading is given to a jeeva who is > moving from a state of tamas (ignorance; darkness) to jyoti (light). > Again, it is the maharishi who pulls the jeeva to give the reading > and is not done so as per the desire of the jeeva. In simpler words > in no way do we have any say in anything in this cosmos. We are a > reflection of our karma. When the time is right, the karma is > exhausted to a certain bandwidth, the guru will reveal to us in the > form of jeeva nadi reading or materialising or anyother means for > that matter. This means that it is pointless abandon our daily > effort in search for the unknown through nadi leaves and nadi > readings. Maharishis do not entertain abandonment of karma for > momentary gratification of senses through self desired nadi > readings. Nadi reading will come to you sitting in your house if it > is intended to. This is what I had written (implied) in my previous > postings to the group which Mr. Rohit point blank abused me for. I > took it that he did not understand a word. I remained increasingly > courteous to him. He responded back by being aggressive not only to > me but to one and all. I still wish him the all the best with all my > heart and pray that God give him the buddhi to be kind to one and > all. > > With that I rest my case and hope that there is increasing > courteousness and lesser finger pointing & agressiveness on the > group. Let us all thank the moderator/creator of this group for > giving us a brilliant platform to discuss. Let us also thank Shri > Shashikant Ji for a wonderful book that he has donated to mankind. > Let us thank the makers of the website for providing all of us a > wonderful medium to get newer research information. > > Every inch of knowledge that is received from any source must be > appreciated and thanked for..That is how it should be. > > Best Wishes. > > , "Rishi Prasad" > <rishiprasad@> wrote: > > > > namaskar, > > i would tend to agree with svc. even if my views are not in sync > with that > > of others, it is hardly appropriate to go on the offensive as > rohit has done > > and get abusive in the manner that he has done. vivek also seems > to hold the > > same point of view. i would really request everyone to not use this > > platform-to which i am absolutely new-as a means of showing their > online > > muscle or aggression. lets just talk astrology and try and learn > from each > > other.i am a professional astrologer based in delhi. but i am not > looking > > for work through this group. i would simply be happy to share the > little > > knowledge i have with anyone who might be helped by it. > > regards, > > rishi > > www.rishiprasad.com > > > > 2008/5/9 svc_astro <svc_astro@>: > > > > > Namaste. All topics are related to TRUTH. EKAM SATYA. Is it > not?! > > > Seems like I irritated you and you felt bad about the posting > that > > > was made. I am sorry if you felt that way. Please contemplate > more > > > and try to understand the post that was made rather than take > things > > > personally. You seem to be an emotional person who jumps at > > > everything. > > > > > > MODERATOR: Is this kind of outburst/abuse allowed on this group? > I am > > > hoping folks like this person are more courteous in their > exchange of > > > words & use of language. > > > > > > Best Wishes. > > > > > > <% > 40>, > > > ~Rohit~ <rrohit_123@> wrote: > > > > > > > > What rubbish is this Mr. Astro?? > > > > Can you tell me tell me single sentence out of all the 25 lines > > > you have written which is related to the topic I have posted > here? I > > > have seen your previous posts also, you reply to the posts with > the > > > rubbish which is not related to the topic which was going on. If > you > > > want to post your philosophy why don't you start a new thread and > > > invite others to comment on it. Just because you want others to > > > notice you and make you feel important why rattle a philosophy > which > > > kills the good topic started by others. > > > > > > > > My topic was about past life predictions given by even road > side > > > tellers and common people including beggars and wanted members to > > > think about it how it's possible and give their views. Can you > tell > > > me whether you have read my post at least, if yes, have you got > it > > > what it's saying? I have asked to ponder on this topic, not on > your > > > life's philosophy. Please post a new message next time you want > to > > > say something good to the forum. > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > svc_astro <svc_astro@> wrote: >>>All comments are > > > welcome. > > > > > > > > Namaste. Thank you for giving an opportunity to ponder & > express. > > > > Future is food for the mind. Past is akin to looking in the > rear > > > > view mirror and driving. Can you drive by looking at the rear > view > > > > mirror?! A true yogi is changing his bhagya (destiny) every > single > > > > breath (kshana). This is how sadhana is: the more you receive, > the > > > > more you want to do sadhana. Fruit is given as the process > takes > > > > place. You constantly want to make a greater & greater effort. > But > > > > let me tell you , it doesnt become easier. If you think the > more > > > > sadhana you do, the easier it will get you are wrong. The more > > > > sadhana you do, the more difficult it gets..but it is more > > > exciting. > > > > > > > > Do not worry about past or future in the form of nadi readings. > > > Live > > > > in the moment, the present. In this moment is the possibility > of > > > > attaining THAT..Even though Self is fully manifest within us, > it > > > > only thru awakening of Shakti and the process of sadhana that > it is > > > > revealed. Guru is trikalagyaani. It is your destiny that > brings you > > > > to the Guru to receive shaktipat, but then you must make the > right > > > > self effort to cultivate golden virtues. Without action there > can > > > be > > > > no jnaana. The crux of the matter is that nothing comes > easily. You > > > > have to work for it; you have to put the effort. It is as > simple as > > > > that. Nadi reading or not, past or future, whatever, it does > not > > > > matter..You must make the effort!! > > > > > > > > Best Wishes. > > > > > > > > <% > 40>, > > > ~Rohit~ <rrohit_123@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There seems to be general feeling of thrill in this forum > with > > > > regards to 100 percent accuracy of past predictions given by > naadi > > > > readers. This past accuracy induces the trust in seekers mind > > > > towards the naadi reader. I would like to mention that I am > not at > > > > all amazed by this past predictions thing. I have through this > > > > before accidently many times, but I am not sure of the > > > > technicalities behind this accuracy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There have been many stories told my mom, how some person > came > > > > for begging in the afternoon while I was away in school and > how he > > > > said many thing about our home ( your husband working here, how > > > many > > > > sons, daughters, son now in school, including some of the > things > > > > like yesterday you fought, your son came top in exams etc ). > But > > > > these sadhus or sometimes plain beggars can't tell anything > about > > > > future. Sometimes they even fool the people into giving them > cash. > > > > My mom got fooled once. They even know how much amount is there > > > > right now in the house. I once encountered this kind of person > in > > > my > > > > college times and drove him away. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My recent experience: I had a visit to Hyderabad to my > relatives > > > > place around 1 yr back. We were sitting in veranda when such > person > > > > came across for begging. He was dressed like half sadhu, He > started > > > > rattling same thing, all accurate to my aunt and mom. I was > > > > surprised but we have seen this before and it was not big > deal. We > > > > gave him 2 rupees and ask him to please go next door bluntly. > We > > > > went away silently. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my school days, when I visited my village, I remember > vaguely > > > > people used to come with bulls ( who were decorated and > colored ) > > > on > > > > Makar Sankranthi , stand in front of house and used to tell > some > > > > predictions like this before taking dhaan ( Usually raw rice , > > > > pulses etc). If I remember correctly bull so some kind of > dance by > > > > waving their heads and their language of poetic. It was fun > for us. > > > > Of course those predictions were accurate with regards to past. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not sure what's behind all this, may be experienced > members > > > > can throw light on this. All naadi readers I have visited told > only > > > > about my name, parent's name, date of birth etc. However above > > > > people went great lengths into the past. All comments are > welcome. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > Rohit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with > > > > Mobile. 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Guest guest Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 Dear Aries - Namaste. What is Jyotisha? Do you think Jyotisha is some external science? Jyotisha is Jyoti + Isha. Jyoti means to throw light on the inner cobwebs which we call as karma. Light (knowledge) dispels darkness (ignorance). Isha is from ishana viz. Siva (God). Siva is the state of sthirtaa (stillness). Shakti that emanates from Siva does all the play. Jyotisha means to remove the inner cobwebs so that the static state of sthirtaa or siva is revealed. Let us take up Nadi. What is Nadi? Nadi literally means 'nerves'. Meaning is implied and needs contemplation. Below the nabhi (navel) is kanda. It is the shape of a birds egg. It is from here that 72000 nadis arise. Out of these 72000, 72 are generally known. The entire dynamic of nadi jyotisha springs from this kanda. There are various kandas in ramayana too. There is a lot to it. Please do not discount deep implied meanings of words spoken by Maharishis which were heard (shruti) by them in higher levels of ecstasy. Want to write more but am short of time. More later. Best Wishes. , aries <waryaries wrote: > > good ..thank you for the explanation . But I was asking about the meaning of Naadi in the context of Naadi Astrology . I am aware of the meaning of word Nadi as " nervous system related " but I really dont think it is the same here ....In this form of astrology it means " To Seek " or that what I read about it . > > > > > > svc_astro <svc_astro wrote: Namaste. I appreciate your keenness in trying to debate the meaning > of the fundamental word " nadi " which so happens to be the main topic > & name of this group. > > Please refer - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nadi_(yoga) > > I quote from wikipedia here to dispel all your doubts " Nâ & #7693;i > (Sanskrit: channel or vein; Tamil: psychic nerve) " .... " Amongst these > ducts or nadis, three are of the utmost importance: the Medullar > Shushumna....The Nadi Susumna, whose substance is the threefold > Gunas, is in the middle " > > Nadi means " nerves " but it is not in the phsical plane, but in the > pshychological plane (astral). Similarly when we talk about brahma > granthi, rudra granthi, vishnu granthi we are not talking about > literal physcial granthis (knots). These are psychological knots. It > is maatru (kundalini) shakti that operates on these knots and takes > you to higher levels of spiritual consciousness. More Later. > > Best Wishes. > > , aries <waryaries@> wrote: > > > > From Astro's mail " Literally nadi means 'nerves'. " - I was > thinking Naadi means to " seek " ?? . dear matued persons are we > interpreting this correct ?? ..please read and think before you guys > congratulate each other . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rishi Prasad <rishiprasad@> wrote: > > viveks maturity is so refreshing to see. the sign of a > great man is not he who can shout down all others but he who after > the shouting is done has the courage to befriend his adversary. more > power to you vivek. now lets all grow together in knowledge. > > rishi > > > > 2008/5/10 Vivek Khurana <vivekkhurana@>: > > Dear Sir > > > > Absolutely true. However, I would request you to calm down and > forgive and forget. > > > > May be this was the Almighty's way of making you the medium to give > knowledge to me. I have found the text written below to be extremely > interesting and please don't mind if I write to you directly. > > > > Best Regards. > > > > Vivek > > > > > > > > > > > > > > svc_astro@ > > Fri, 9 May 2008 14:21:27 +0000 > > Re: Past life predictions …..No big > deal ...topic to ponder on … > > > > > > Dear Rishi/Vivek, > > > > Namaste. Thank you for the concurrence. The problem nowadays is > that > > most folks act as if they have taken the responsibility to change > > every , every website and that they are the God given > > gift to mankind. This just shows that their 'I' is established > > firmly. What they do not realize is that an act of giving, a kind > > word, a grateful deed, proper use of courteous language will go a > > long way in burning their karma & building a healthy relationship > > with the divine. Use of aggressive words is a sign of weakness, > > insecurity & one of leading a unharmonious life. > > > > Coming back to the subject proper viz. " Nadi Astrology " . As per my > > anubhava nadi shabda has its roots in nas (nerves). Literally nadi > > means 'nerves'. Connecting it with Nadi Astrology, is is Saturn > that > > rules nadis. Saturn exalts in tula rasi. Tula represents the > > balance. Saturn is connected with vayu in panchanga. Remember Lagna > > is twacha (vayu tatva), 2nd bhava is netra (agni tatva), 3rd is > > karana (ears; akaasha), 4th is nasika (nose; kshiti tatwa) and 5th > > is jihba (tongue; apo tatva). Saturn is connected with nakshatra. > > Mangal with vaara. Guru with akasha. Budha (mercury) with karana > and > > Shukra with thithi as per panchanga classification. > > > > Let me post some thoughts on jeeva nadi & connection with astrology > > as I have some time today and am back from temple activities. > > > > We said above that Saturn rules nadi. Meaning the connection with > > vayu element (breath; prana) is apparent. There are 3 prominent > > nadis viz. ida, pingala and sushumna which are in the sookshma > > shareera. The svara (breath) either flows through ida or pingala in > > a jiva. This gives delusion, illusion & error. The whole aim is to > > balance the breath and allow it to flow through the central nadi > > system called sushumna. Once the breath begins to flow through the > > central channel one begins to get guru anubhava and the nada dhvani > > begins to emanate from antahkarana. Sound is a function of akash > > tatva. This is the true jeeva nadi. It is through this madhyam that > > the maharishis communicate to the intended sishya (nadi reader) to > > give a jeeva nadi reading. We must check up Saturn in both rasi and > > amsa to see link with jeeva nadi from poorva janma. Jeeva nadi > > reading is direct communication channel (sushumna breathing) with > > the uplink (divine). This kind of reading is given to a jeeva who > is > > moving from a state of tamas (ignorance; darkness) to jyoti > (light). > > Again, it is the maharishi who pulls the jeeva to give the reading > > and is not done so as per the desire of the jeeva. In simpler words > > in no way do we have any say in anything in this cosmos. We are a > > reflection of our karma. When the time is right, the karma is > > exhausted to a certain bandwidth, the guru will reveal to us in the > > form of jeeva nadi reading or materialising or anyother means for > > that matter. This means that it is pointless abandon our daily > > effort in search for the unknown through nadi leaves and nadi > > readings. Maharishis do not entertain abandonment of karma for > > momentary gratification of senses through self desired nadi > > readings. Nadi reading will come to you sitting in your house if it > > is intended to. This is what I had written (implied) in my previous > > postings to the group which Mr. Rohit point blank abused me for. I > > took it that he did not understand a word. I remained increasingly > > courteous to him. He responded back by being aggressive not only to > > me but to one and all. I still wish him the all the best with all > my > > heart and pray that God give him the buddhi to be kind to one and > > all. > > > > With that I rest my case and hope that there is increasing > > courteousness and lesser finger pointing & agressiveness on the > > group. Let us all thank the moderator/creator of this group for > > giving us a brilliant platform to discuss. Let us also thank Shri > > Shashikant Ji for a wonderful book that he has donated to mankind. > > Let us thank the makers of the website for providing all of us a > > wonderful medium to get newer research information. > > > > Every inch of knowledge that is received from any source must be > > appreciated and thanked for..That is how it should be. > > > > Best Wishes. > > > > , " Rishi Prasad " > > <rishiprasad@> wrote: > > > > > > namaskar, > > > i would tend to agree with svc. even if my views are not in sync > > with that > > > of others, it is hardly appropriate to go on the offensive as > > rohit has done > > > and get abusive in the manner that he has done. vivek also seems > > to hold the > > > same point of view. i would really request everyone to not use > this > > > platform-to which i am absolutely new-as a means of showing their > > online > > > muscle or aggression. lets just talk astrology and try and learn > > from each > > > other.i am a professional astrologer based in delhi. but i am not > > looking > > > for work through this group. i would simply be happy to share the > > little > > > knowledge i have with anyone who might be helped by it. > > > regards, > > > rishi > > > www.rishiprasad.com > > > > > > 2008/5/9 svc_astro <svc_astro@>: > > > > > > > Namaste. All topics are related to TRUTH. EKAM SATYA. Is it > > not?! > > > > Seems like I irritated you and you felt bad about the posting > > that > > > > was made. I am sorry if you felt that way. Please contemplate > > more > > > > and try to understand the post that was made rather than take > > things > > > > personally. You seem to be an emotional person who jumps at > > > > everything. > > > > > > > > MODERATOR: Is this kind of outburst/abuse allowed on this > group? > > I am > > > > hoping folks like this person are more courteous in their > > exchange of > > > > words & use of language. > > > > > > > > Best Wishes. > > > > > > > > <% > > 40>, > > > > ~Rohit~ <rrohit_123@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > What rubbish is this Mr. Astro?? > > > > > Can you tell me tell me single sentence out of all the 25 > lines > > > > you have written which is related to the topic I have posted > > here? I > > > > have seen your previous posts also, you reply to the posts with > > the > > > > rubbish which is not related to the topic which was going on. > If > > you > > > > want to post your philosophy why don't you start a new thread > and > > > > invite others to comment on it. Just because you want others to > > > > notice you and make you feel important why rattle a philosophy > > which > > > > kills the good topic started by others. > > > > > > > > > > My topic was about past life predictions given by even road > > side > > > > tellers and common people including beggars and wanted members > to > > > > think about it how it's possible and give their views. Can you > > tell > > > > me whether you have read my post at least, if yes, have you got > > it > > > > what it's saying? I have asked to ponder on this topic, not on > > your > > > > life's philosophy. Please post a new message next time you want > > to > > > > say something good to the forum. > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > svc_astro <svc_astro@> wrote: >>>All comments are > > > > welcome. > > > > > > > > > > Namaste. Thank you for giving an opportunity to ponder & > > express. > > > > > Future is food for the mind. Past is akin to looking in the > > rear > > > > > view mirror and driving. Can you drive by looking at the rear > > view > > > > > mirror?! A true yogi is changing his bhagya (destiny) every > > single > > > > > breath (kshana). This is how sadhana is: the more you > receive, > > the > > > > > more you want to do sadhana. Fruit is given as the process > > takes > > > > > place. You constantly want to make a greater & greater > effort. > > But > > > > > let me tell you , it doesnt become easier. If you think the > > more > > > > > sadhana you do, the easier it will get you are wrong. The more > > > > > sadhana you do, the more difficult it gets..but it is more > > > > exciting. > > > > > > > > > > Do not worry about past or future in the form of nadi > readings. > > > > Live > > > > > in the moment, the present. In this moment is the possibility > > of > > > > > attaining THAT..Even though Self is fully manifest within us, > > it > > > > > only thru awakening of Shakti and the process of sadhana that > > it is > > > > > revealed. Guru is trikalagyaani. It is your destiny that > > brings you > > > > > to the Guru to receive shaktipat, but then you must make the > > right > > > > > self effort to cultivate golden virtues. Without action there > > can > > > > be > > > > > no jnaana. The crux of the matter is that nothing comes > > easily. You > > > > > have to work for it; you have to put the effort. It is as > > simple as > > > > > that. Nadi reading or not, past or future, whatever, it does > > not > > > > > matter..You must make the effort!! > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes. > > > > > > > > > > <% > > 40>, > > > > ~Rohit~ <rrohit_123@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There seems to be general feeling of thrill in this forum > > with > > > > > regards to 100 percent accuracy of past predictions given by > > naadi > > > > > readers. This past accuracy induces the trust in seekers mind > > > > > towards the naadi reader. I would like to mention that I am > > not at > > > > > all amazed by this past predictions thing. I have through this > > > > > before accidently many times, but I am not sure of the > > > > > technicalities behind this accuracy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There have been many stories told my mom, how some person > > came > > > > > for begging in the afternoon while I was away in school and > > how he > > > > > said many thing about our home ( your husband working here, > how > > > > many > > > > > sons, daughters, son now in school, including some of the > > things > > > > > like yesterday you fought, your son came top in exams etc ). > > But > > > > > these sadhus or sometimes plain beggars can't tell anything > > about > > > > > future. Sometimes they even fool the people into giving them > > cash. > > > > > My mom got fooled once. They even know how much amount is > there > > > > > right now in the house. I once encountered this kind of > person > > in > > > > my > > > > > college times and drove him away. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My recent experience: I had a visit to Hyderabad to my > > relatives > > > > > place around 1 yr back. We were sitting in veranda when such > > person > > > > > came across for begging. He was dressed like half sadhu, He > > started > > > > > rattling same thing, all accurate to my aunt and mom. I was > > > > > surprised but we have seen this before and it was not big > > deal. We > > > > > gave him 2 rupees and ask him to please go next door bluntly. > > We > > > > > went away silently. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my school days, when I visited my village, I remember > > vaguely > > > > > people used to come with bulls ( who were decorated and > > colored ) > > > > on > > > > > Makar Sankranthi , stand in front of house and used to tell > > some > > > > > predictions like this before taking dhaan ( Usually raw rice , > > > > > pulses etc). If I remember correctly bull so some kind of > > dance by > > > > > waving their heads and their language of poetic. It was fun > > for us. > > > > > Of course those predictions were accurate with regards to > past. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not sure what's behind all this, may be experienced > > members > > > > > can throw light on this. All naadi readers I have visited > told > > only > > > > > about my name, parent's name, date of birth etc. However above > > > > > people went great lengths into the past. All comments are > > welcome. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Rohit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with > > > > > Mobile. Try it now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with > > Mobile. > > > > Try it now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Rishi > > > www.rishiprasad.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Skydrive - Get 5GB online space for FREE!. Store and share music, > photos and documents online with ease. 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