Guest guest Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 Dear list, It saddens to see the kind of outbursts in the list, in past... thread. Please be sensitive to others. If some one starts a thread, he would get upset if the topic is changed within the thread. Right thing is to start a new thread. AND, There will be many who will enjoy your thoughts, but dont go for the easy route of replying under the same thread. Start a new one. You owe it to others in the list. The list is a platform and you have certain obligations if you want to enjoy that company. It is so easy to let your emotions take hold and pour it out here. Exchange of views, discussion, criticism are all part of human interaction. But dont attack the person. Attack the point, you disagree. And try and be courteous. On the other hand read your post twice before posting it, to check if others might misunderstand as an egoistic one or hurting some one. Being kind is much more difficult than being rude. Being rude is so easy, Every body can do it. We can exchange blows and more blow and more blow. You are engagin in a psychological excercise and game. And two people will always find each other to fulfill the counter-party to do this. But the purpose of the list will vanish. Just think about it. With regards to everyone, Seshadri--- On Sat, 5/10/08, svc_astro <svc_astro wrote: svc_astro <svc_astro Re: Past life predictions …..No big deal ...topic to ponder on … Date: Saturday, May 10, 2008, 7:21 AM Dear Aries - Namaste. I was referring to deeper context/dynamics of jeeva nadi.Seems like some enjoyed my posts while others did not. This is the duality in which we all live in. Some are happy. Some are sad. Some are selfish. Some are selfless. I am sorry if my posting made no sense to you. You are free to ignore it. I wish you all the best. Best Wishes., aries <waryaries@. ..> wrote:>> Namaste , Good luck to you all .> > Dear Astro can you please tell me what was your intenstion when you wrote such a long mail ? , to me, I could not make head or tail out of it . > > I believe the topic was about " Past Prediction Accurancy " , does your mail has something on it , please be kind to ignorant souls - Please let us know if this was about the same topic .> > Initially I addmired Sashikant Oak for his Naadi book but I have critical eye , now I realize that he was just documenting what he experienced in Naadi and I think that no research was done on it , was just skin deep . This is my observation about the book and website .> I believe I have the right to comment on it .> > If you know astrology you will realize that it is about satistics and experience in interpreting the statistical data but Naadi is totally mysterious . Some one who doesnt ( normaly ) show you the leaf but keeps uttering some stanza and explain to you, if the leaf he reads is yours why cant they give you the copy or leaf itself ? . The Naadi people claim them selves as "readers" and not astrologers , if yiou know sanskrit or vattazhuthu you can read it yourself .> > Please be realistic in writing and about others cognitive levels . Do not try to put down some meaning less words thinking that it is philosophy and you will be admired..no never it will happen . > > Thanks ,> Aries> > > > > > > svc_astro <svc_astro@. ..> wrote:> Dear Rishi/Vivek, > > Namaste. Thank you for the concurrence. The problem nowadays is that > most folks act as if they have taken the responsibility to change > every , every website and that they are the God given > gift to mankind. This just shows that their 'I' is established > firmly. What they do not realize is that an act of giving, a kind > word, a grateful deed, proper use of courteous language will go a > long way in burning their karma & building a healthy relationship > with the divine. Use of aggressive words is a sign of weakness, > insecurity & one of leading a unharmonious life. > > Coming back to the subject proper viz. "Nadi Astrology". As per my > anubhava nadi shabda has its roots in nas (nerves). Literally nadi > means 'nerves'. Connecting it with Nadi Astrology, is is Saturn that > rules nadis. Saturn exalts in tula rasi. Tula represents the > balance. Saturn is connected with vayu in panchanga. Remember Lagna > is twacha (vayu tatva), 2nd bhava is netra (agni tatva), 3rd is > karana (ears; akaasha), 4th is nasika (nose; kshiti tatwa) and 5th > is jihba (tongue; apo tatva). Saturn is connected with nakshatra. > Mangal with vaara. Guru with akasha. Budha (mercury) with karana and > Shukra with thithi as per panchanga classification. > > Let me post some thoughts on jeeva nadi & connection with astrology > as I have some time today and am back from temple activities. > > We said above that Saturn rules nadi. Meaning the connection with > vayu element (breath; prana) is apparent. There are 3 prominent > nadis viz. ida, pingala and sushumna which are in the sookshma > shareera. The svara (breath) either flows through ida or pingala in > a jiva. This gives delusion, illusion & error. The whole aim is to > balance the breath and allow it to flow through the central nadi > system called sushumna. Once the breath begins to flow through the > central channel one begins to get guru anubhava and the nada dhvani > begins to emanate from antahkarana. Sound is a function of akash > tatva. This is the true jeeva nadi. It is through this madhyam that > the maharishis communicate to the intended sishya (nadi reader) to > give a jeeva nadi reading. We must check up Saturn in both rasi and > amsa to see link with jeeva nadi from poorva janma. Jeeva nadi > reading is direct communication channel (sushumna breathing) with > the uplink (divine). This kind of reading is given to a jeeva who is > moving from a state of tamas (ignorance; darkness) to jyoti (light). > Again, it is the maharishi who pulls the jeeva to give the reading > and is not done so as per the desire of the jeeva. In simpler words > in no way do we have any say in anything in this cosmos. We are a > reflection of our karma. When the time is right, the karma is > exhausted to a certain bandwidth, the guru will reveal to us in the > form of jeeva nadi reading or materialising or anyother means for > that matter. This means that it is pointless abandon our daily > effort in search for the unknown through nadi leaves and nadi > readings. Maharishis do not entertain abandonment of karma for > momentary gratification of senses through self desired nadi > readings. Nadi reading will come to you sitting in your house if it > is intended to. This is what I had written (implied) in my previous > postings to the group which Mr. Rohit point blank abused me for. I > took it that he did not understand a word. I remained increasingly > courteous to him. He responded back by being aggressive not only to > me but to one and all. I still wish him the all the best with all my > heart and pray that God give him the buddhi to be kind to one and > all. > > With that I rest my case and hope that there is increasing > courteousness and lesser finger pointing & agressiveness on the > group. Let us all thank the moderator/creator of this group for > giving us a brilliant platform to discuss. Let us also thank Shri > Shashikant Ji for a wonderful book that he has donated to mankind. > Let us thank the makers of the website for providing all of us a > wonderful medium to get newer research information. > > Every inch of knowledge that is received from any source must be > appreciated and thanked for..That is how it should be. > > Best Wishes.> > , "Rishi Prasad" > <rishiprasad@ > wrote:> >> > namaskar,> > i would tend to agree with svc. even if my views are not in sync > with that> > of others, it is hardly appropriate to go on the offensive as > rohit has done> > and get abusive in the manner that he has done. vivek also seems > to hold the> > same point of view. i would really request everyone to not use this> > platform-to which i am absolutely new-as a means of showing their > online> > muscle or aggression. lets just talk astrology and try and learn > from each> > other.i am a professional astrologer based in delhi. but i am not > looking> > for work through this group. i would simply be happy to share the > little> > knowledge i have with anyone who might be helped by it.> > regards,> > rishi> > www.rishiprasad. com> > > > 2008/5/9 svc_astro <svc_astro@> :> > > > > Namaste. All topics are related to TRUTH. EKAM SATYA. Is it > not?!> > > Seems like I irritated you and you felt bad about the posting > that> > > was made. I am sorry if you felt that way. Please contemplate > more> > > and try to understand the post that was made rather than take > things> > > personally. You seem to be an emotional person who jumps at> > > everything.> > >> > > MODERATOR: Is this kind of outburst/abuse allowed on this group? > I am> > > hoping folks like this person are more courteous in their > exchange of> > > words & use of language.> > >> > > Best Wishes.> > >> > > <%> 40. com>,> > > ~Rohit~ <rrohit_123@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > What rubbish is this Mr. Astro??> > > > Can you tell me tell me single sentence out of all the 25 lines> > > you have written which is related to the topic I have posted > here? I> > > have seen your previous posts also, you reply to the posts with > the> > > rubbish which is not related to the topic which was going on. If > you> > > want to post your philosophy why don't you start a new thread and> > > invite others to comment on it. Just because you want others to> > > notice you and make you feel important why rattle a philosophy > which> > > kills the good topic started by others.> > > >> > > > My topic was about past life predictions given by even road > side> > > tellers and common people including beggars and wanted members to> > > think about it how it's possible and give their views. Can you > tell> > > me whether you have read my post at least, if yes, have you got > it> > > what it's saying? I have asked to ponder on this topic, not on > your> > > life's philosophy. Please post a new message next time you want > to> > > say something good to the forum.> > > > Thanks> > > >> > > >> > > > svc_astro <svc_astro@> wrote: >>>All comments are> > > welcome.> > > >> > > > Namaste. Thank you for giving an opportunity to ponder & > express.> > > > Future is food for the mind. Past is akin to looking in the > rear> > > > view mirror and driving. Can you drive by looking at the rear > view> > > > mirror?! A true yogi is changing his bhagya (destiny) every > single> > > > breath (kshana). This is how sadhana is: the more you receive, > the> > > > more you want to do sadhana. Fruit is given as the process > takes> > > > place. You constantly want to make a greater & greater effort. > But> > > > let me tell you , it doesnt become easier. If you think the > more> > > > sadhana you do, the easier it will get you are wrong. The more> > > > sadhana you do, the more difficult it gets..but it is more> > > exciting.> > > >> > > > Do not worry about past or future in the form of nadi readings.> > > Live> > > > in the moment, the present. In this moment is the possibility > of> > > > attaining THAT..Even though Self is fully manifest within us, > it> > > > only thru awakening of Shakti and the process of sadhana that > it is> > > > revealed. Guru is trikalagyaani. It is your destiny that > brings you> > > > to the Guru to receive shaktipat, but then you must make the > right> > > > self effort to cultivate golden virtues. Without action there > can> > > be> > > > no jnaana. The crux of the matter is that nothing comes > easily. You> > > > have to work for it; you have to put the effort. It is as > simple as> > > > that. Nadi reading or not, past or future, whatever, it does > not> > > > matter..You must make the effort!!> > > >> > > > Best Wishes.> > > >> > > > <%> 40. com>,> > > ~Rohit~ <rrohit_123@ >> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Members,> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > There seems to be general feeling of thrill in this forum > with> > > > regards to 100 percent accuracy of past predictions given by > naadi> > > > readers. This past accuracy induces the trust in seekers mind> > > > towards the naadi reader. I would like to mention that I am > not at> > > > all amazed by this past predictions thing. I have through this> > > > before accidently many times, but I am not sure of the> > > > technicalities behind this accuracy.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > There have been many stories told my mom, how some person > came> > > > for begging in the afternoon while I was away in school and > how he> > > > said many thing about our home ( your husband working here, how> > > many> > > > sons, daughters, son now in school, including some of the > things> > > > like yesterday you fought, your son came top in exams etc ). > But> > > > these sadhus or sometimes plain beggars can't tell anything > about> > > > future. Sometimes they even fool the people into giving them > cash.> > > > My mom got fooled once. They even know how much amount is there> > > > right now in the house. I once encountered this kind of person > in> > > my> > > > college times and drove him away.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > My recent experience: I had a visit to Hyderabad to my > relatives> > > > place around 1 yr back. We were sitting in veranda when such > person> > > > came across for begging. He was dressed like half sadhu, He > started> > > > rattling same thing, all accurate to my aunt and mom. I was> > > > surprised but we have seen this before and it was not big > deal. We> > > > gave him 2 rupees and ask him to please go next door bluntly. > We> > > > went away silently.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > In my school days, when I visited my village, I remember > vaguely> > > > people used to come with bulls ( who were decorated and > colored )> > > on> > > > Makar Sankranthi , stand in front of house and used to tell > some> > > > predictions like this before taking dhaan ( Usually raw rice ,> > > > pulses etc). If I remember correctly bull so some kind of > dance by> > > > waving their heads and their language of poetic. It was fun > for us.> > > > Of course those predictions were accurate with regards to past.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > I am not sure what's behind all this, may be experienced > members> > > > can throw light on this. All naadi readers I have visited told > only> > > > about my name, parent's name, date of birth etc. However above> > > > people went great lengths into the past. All comments are > welcome.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Thanks> > > > > Rohit> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with > > > > Mobile. Try it now.> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with > Mobile.> > > Try it now.> > > >> > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > -- > > Rishi> > www.rishiprasad. com> >> > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 Seshadri ji Very correct and concise points with regards to how to show respect to other members in the forum and also their posts. However no mater how much you remind this to members like Mr Astro, he wont understand, instead he will reply with his jeeva naadi article. Thanks Rohit Sesh Krish <kseshadri_2000 wrote: Dear list, It saddens to see the kind of outbursts in the list, in past... thread. Please be sensitive to others. If some one starts a thread, he would get upset if the topic is changed within the thread. Right thing is to start a new thread. AND, There will be many who will enjoy your thoughts, but dont go for the easy route of replying under the same thread. Start a new one. You owe it to others in the list. The list is a platform and you have certain obligations if you want to enjoy that company. It is so easy to let your emotions take hold and pour it out here. Exchange of views, discussion, criticism are all part of human interaction. But dont attack the person. Attack the point, you disagree. And try and be courteous. On the other hand read your post twice before posting it, to check if others might misunderstand as an egoistic one or hurting some one. Being kind is much more difficult than being rude. Being rude is so easy, Every body can do it. We can exchange blows and more blow and more blow. You are engagin in a psychological excercise and game. And two people will always find each other to fulfill the counter-party to do this. But the purpose of the list will vanish. Just think about it. With regards to everyone, Seshadri--- On Sat, 5/10/08, svc_astro <svc_astro > wrote: svc_astro <svc_astro > Re: Past life predictions …..No big deal ...topic to ponder on … Date: Saturday, May 10, 2008, 7:21 AM Dear Aries - Namaste. I was referring to deeper context/dynamics of jeeva nadi.Seems like some enjoyed my posts while others did not. This is the duality in which we all live in. Some are happy. Some are sad. Some are selfish. Some are selfless. I am sorry if my posting made no sense to you. You are free to ignore it. I wish you all the best. Best Wishes., aries <waryaries@. ..> wrote:>> Namaste , Good luck to you all .> > Dear Astro can you please tell me what was your intenstion when you wrote such a long mail ? , to me, I could not make head or tail out of it . > > I believe the topic was about " Past Prediction Accurancy " , does your mail has something on it , please be kind to ignorant souls - Please let us know if this was about the same topic .> > Initially I addmired Sashikant Oak for his Naadi book but I have critical eye , now I realize that he was just documenting what he experienced in Naadi and I think that no research was done on it , was just skin deep . This is my observation about the book and website .> I believe I have the right to comment on it .> > If you know astrology you will realize that it is about satistics and experience in interpreting the statistical data but Naadi is totally mysterious . Some one who doesnt ( normaly ) show you the leaf but keeps uttering some stanza and explain to you, if the leaf he reads is yours why cant they give you the copy or leaf itself ? . The Naadi people claim them selves as "readers" and not astrologers , if yiou know sanskrit or vattazhuthu you can read it yourself .> > Please be realistic in writing and about others cognitive levels . Do not try to put down some meaning less words thinking that it is philosophy and you will be admired..no never it will happen . > > Thanks ,> Aries> > > > > > > svc_astro <svc_astro@. ..> wrote:> Dear Rishi/Vivek, > > Namaste. Thank you for the concurrence. The problem nowadays is that > most folks act as if they have taken the responsibility to change > every , every website and that they are the God given > gift to mankind. This just shows that their 'I' is established > firmly. What they do not realize is that an act of giving, a kind > word, a grateful deed, proper use of courteous language will go a > long way in burning their karma & building a healthy relationship > with the divine. Use of aggressive words is a sign of weakness, > insecurity & one of leading a unharmonious life. > > Coming back to the subject proper viz. "Nadi Astrology". As per my > anubhava nadi shabda has its roots in nas (nerves). Literally nadi > means 'nerves'. Connecting it with Nadi Astrology, is is Saturn that > rules nadis. Saturn exalts in tula rasi. Tula represents the > balance. Saturn is connected with vayu in panchanga. Remember Lagna > is twacha (vayu tatva), 2nd bhava is netra (agni tatva), 3rd is > karana (ears; akaasha), 4th is nasika (nose; kshiti tatwa) and 5th > is jihba (tongue; apo tatva). Saturn is connected with nakshatra. > Mangal with vaara. Guru with akasha. Budha (mercury) with karana and > Shukra with thithi as per panchanga classification. > > Let me post some thoughts on jeeva nadi & connection with astrology > as I have some time today and am back from temple activities. > > We said above that Saturn rules nadi. Meaning the connection with > vayu element (breath; prana) is apparent. There are 3 prominent > nadis viz. ida, pingala and sushumna which are in the sookshma > shareera. The svara (breath) either flows through ida or pingala in > a jiva. This gives delusion, illusion & error. The whole aim is to > balance the breath and allow it to flow through the central nadi > system called sushumna. Once the breath begins to flow through the > central channel one begins to get guru anubhava and the nada dhvani > begins to emanate from antahkarana. Sound is a function of akash > tatva. This is the true jeeva nadi. It is through this madhyam that > the maharishis communicate to the intended sishya (nadi reader) to > give a jeeva nadi reading. We must check up Saturn in both rasi and > amsa to see link with jeeva nadi from poorva janma. Jeeva nadi > reading is direct communication channel (sushumna breathing) with > the uplink (divine). This kind of reading is given to a jeeva who is > moving from a state of tamas (ignorance; darkness) to jyoti (light). > Again, it is the maharishi who pulls the jeeva to give the reading > and is not done so as per the desire of the jeeva. In simpler words > in no way do we have any say in anything in this cosmos. We are a > reflection of our karma. When the time is right, the karma is > exhausted to a certain bandwidth, the guru will reveal to us in the > form of jeeva nadi reading or materialising or anyother means for > that matter. This means that it is pointless abandon our daily > effort in search for the unknown through nadi leaves and nadi > readings. Maharishis do not entertain abandonment of karma for > momentary gratification of senses through self desired nadi > readings. Nadi reading will come to you sitting in your house if it > is intended to. This is what I had written (implied) in my previous > postings to the group which Mr. Rohit point blank abused me for. I > took it that he did not understand a word. I remained increasingly > courteous to him. He responded back by being aggressive not only to > me but to one and all. I still wish him the all the best with all my > heart and pray that God give him the buddhi to be kind to one and > all. > > With that I rest my case and hope that there is increasing > courteousness and lesser finger pointing & agressiveness on the > group. Let us all thank the moderator/creator of this group for > giving us a brilliant platform to discuss. Let us also thank Shri > Shashikant Ji for a wonderful book that he has donated to mankind. > Let us thank the makers of the website for providing all of us a > wonderful medium to get newer research information. > > Every inch of knowledge that is received from any source must be > appreciated and thanked for..That is how it should be. > > Best Wishes.> > , "Rishi Prasad" > <rishiprasad@ > wrote:> >> > namaskar,> > i would tend to agree with svc. even if my views are not in sync > with that> > of others, it is hardly appropriate to go on the offensive as > rohit has done> > and get abusive in the manner that he has done. vivek also seems > to hold the> > same point of view. i would really request everyone to not use this> > platform-to which i am absolutely new-as a means of showing their > online> > muscle or aggression. lets just talk astrology and try and learn > from each> > other.i am a professional astrologer based in delhi. but i am not > looking> > for work through this group. i would simply be happy to share the > little> > knowledge i have with anyone who might be helped by it.> > regards,> > rishi> > www.rishiprasad. com> > > > 2008/5/9 svc_astro <svc_astro@> :> > > > > Namaste. All topics are related to TRUTH. EKAM SATYA. Is it > not?!> > > Seems like I irritated you and you felt bad about the posting > that> > > was made. I am sorry if you felt that way. Please contemplate > more> > > and try to understand the post that was made rather than take > things> > > personally. You seem to be an emotional person who jumps at> > > everything.> > >> > > MODERATOR: Is this kind of outburst/abuse allowed on this group? > I am> > > hoping folks like this person are more courteous in their > exchange of> > > words & use of language.> > >> > > Best Wishes.> > >> > > <%> 40. com>,> > > ~Rohit~ <rrohit_123@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > What rubbish is this Mr. Astro??> > > > Can you tell me tell me single sentence out of all the 25 lines> > > you have written which is related to the topic I have posted > here? I> > > have seen your previous posts also, you reply to the posts with > the> > > rubbish which is not related to the topic which was going on. If > you> > > want to post your philosophy why don't you start a new thread and> > > invite others to comment on it. Just because you want others to> > > notice you and make you feel important why rattle a philosophy > which> > > kills the good topic started by others.> > > >> > > > My topic was about past life predictions given by even road > side> > > tellers and common people including beggars and wanted members to> > > think about it how it's possible and give their views. Can you > tell> > > me whether you have read my post at least, if yes, have you got > it> > > what it's saying? I have asked to ponder on this topic, not on > your> > > life's philosophy. Please post a new message next time you want > to> > > say something good to the forum.> > > > Thanks> > > >> > > >> > > > svc_astro <svc_astro@> wrote: >>>All comments are> > > welcome.> > > >> > > > Namaste. Thank you for giving an opportunity to ponder & > express.> > > > Future is food for the mind. Past is akin to looking in the > rear> > > > view mirror and driving. Can you drive by looking at the rear > view> > > > mirror?! A true yogi is changing his bhagya (destiny) every > single> > > > breath (kshana). This is how sadhana is: the more you receive, > the> > > > more you want to do sadhana. Fruit is given as the process > takes> > > > place. You constantly want to make a greater & greater effort. > But> > > > let me tell you , it doesnt become easier. If you think the > more> > > > sadhana you do, the easier it will get you are wrong. The more> > > > sadhana you do, the more difficult it gets..but it is more> > > exciting.> > > >> > > > Do not worry about past or future in the form of nadi readings.> > > Live> > > > in the moment, the present. In this moment is the possibility > of> > > > attaining THAT..Even though Self is fully manifest within us, > it> > > > only thru awakening of Shakti and the process of sadhana that > it is> > > > revealed. Guru is trikalagyaani. It is your destiny that > brings you> > > > to the Guru to receive shaktipat, but then you must make the > right> > > > self effort to cultivate golden virtues. Without action there > can> > > be> > > > no jnaana. The crux of the matter is that nothing comes > easily. You> > > > have to work for it; you have to put the effort. It is as > simple as> > > > that. Nadi reading or not, past or future, whatever, it does > not> > > > matter..You must make the effort!!> > > >> > > > Best Wishes.> > > >> > > > <%> 40. com>,> > > ~Rohit~ <rrohit_123@ >> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Members,> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > There seems to be general feeling of thrill in this forum > with> > > > regards to 100 percent accuracy of past predictions given by > naadi> > > > readers. This past accuracy induces the trust in seekers mind> > > > towards the naadi reader. I would like to mention that I am > not at> > > > all amazed by this past predictions thing. I have through this> > > > before accidently many times, but I am not sure of the> > > > technicalities behind this accuracy.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > There have been many stories told my mom, how some person > came> > > > for begging in the afternoon while I was away in school and > how he> > > > said many thing about our home ( your husband working here, how> > > many> > > > sons, daughters, son now in school, including some of the > things> > > > like yesterday you fought, your son came top in exams etc ). > But> > > > these sadhus or sometimes plain beggars can't tell anything > about> > > > future. Sometimes they even fool the people into giving them > cash.> > > > My mom got fooled once. They even know how much amount is there> > > > right now in the house. I once encountered this kind of person > in> > > my> > > > college times and drove him away.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > My recent experience: I had a visit to Hyderabad to my > relatives> > > > place around 1 yr back. We were sitting in veranda when such > person> > > > came across for begging. He was dressed like half sadhu, He > started> > > > rattling same thing, all accurate to my aunt and mom. I was> > > > surprised but we have seen this before and it was not big > deal. We> > > > gave him 2 rupees and ask him to please go next door bluntly. > We> > > > went away silently.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > In my school days, when I visited my village, I remember > vaguely> > > > people used to come with bulls ( who were decorated and > colored )> > > on> > > > Makar Sankranthi , stand in front of house and used to tell > some> > > > predictions like this before taking dhaan ( Usually raw rice ,> > > > pulses etc). If I remember correctly bull so some kind of > dance by> > > > waving their heads and their language of poetic. It was fun > for us.> > > > Of course those predictions were accurate with regards to past.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > I am not sure what's behind all this, may be experienced > members> > > > can throw light on this. All naadi readers I have visited told > only> > > > about my name, parent's name, date of birth etc. However above> > > > people went great lengths into the past. All comments are > welcome.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Thanks> > > > > Rohit> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with > > > > Mobile. Try it now.> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with > Mobile.> > > Try it now.> > > >> > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > -- > > Rishi> > www.rishiprasad. com> >> > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 Dear Shri Rohit, Namaste. This is my last post. I choose to withdraw from all discussions. I am sorry if I hurt you in anyway..that was not my intent at anytime. I am also sorry if you & Shri Seshadri found my postings useless and out of place. I wish you the very best in life & in your search for true knowledge. Take Care & Best Wishes. , ~Rohit~ <rrohit_123 wrote: > > Seshadri ji > > Very correct and concise points with regards to how to show respect to other members in the forum and also their posts. However no mater how much you remind this to members like Mr Astro, he wont understand, instead he will reply with his jeeva naadi article. > > Thanks > Rohit > > > Sesh Krish <kseshadri_2000 wrote: > Dear list, > It saddens to see the kind of outbursts in the list, in past... thread. > Please be sensitive to others. If some one starts a thread, he would get upset if the topic is changed within the thread. Right thing is to start a new thread. > AND, > There will be many who will enjoy your thoughts, but dont go for the easy route of replying under the same thread. Start a new one. You owe it to others in the list. The list is a platform and you have certain obligations if you want to enjoy that company. > > It is so easy to let your emotions take hold and pour it out here. Exchange of views, discussion, criticism are all part of human interaction. > > But dont attack the person. Attack the point, you disagree. > > And try and be courteous. > > On the other hand read your post twice before posting it, to check if others might misunderstand as an egoistic one or hurting some one. > > Being kind is much more difficult than being rude. Being rude is so easy, Every body can do it. We can exchange blows and more blow and more blow. > > You are engagin in a psychological excercise and game. And two people will always find each other to fulfill the counter-party to do this. > > But the purpose of the list will vanish. > > Just think about it. > > With regards to everyone, > Seshadri > > --- On Sat, 5/10/08, svc_astro <svc_astro wrote: > > svc_astro <svc_astro > Re: Past life predictions …..No big deal ...topic to ponder on … > > Saturday, May 10, 2008, 7:21 AM > > Dear Aries - > > Namaste. I was referring to deeper context/dynamics of jeeva nadi. > > Seems like some enjoyed my posts while others did not. This is the > duality in which we all live in. Some are happy. Some are sad. Some > are selfish. Some are selfless. > > I am sorry if my posting made no sense to you. You are free to ignore > it. I wish you all the best. > > Best Wishes. > > , aries <waryaries@ ..> wrote: > > > > Namaste , Good luck to you all . > > > > Dear Astro can you please tell me what was your intenstion when > you wrote such a long mail ? , to me, I could not make head or tail > out of it . > > > > I believe the topic was about " Past Prediction Accurancy " , > does your mail has something on it , please be kind to ignorant > souls - Please let us know if this was about the same topic . > > > > Initially I addmired Sashikant Oak for his Naadi book but I have > critical eye , now I realize that he was just documenting what he > experienced in Naadi and I think that no research was done on it , > was just skin deep . This is my observation about the book and > website . > > I believe I have the right to comment on it . > > > > If you know astrology you will realize that it is about > satistics and experience in interpreting the statistical data but > Naadi is totally mysterious . Some one who doesnt ( normaly ) show > you the leaf but keeps uttering some stanza and explain to you, if > the leaf he reads is yours why cant they give you the copy or leaf > itself ? . The Naadi people claim them selves as " readers " and not > astrologers , if yiou know sanskrit or vattazhuthu you can read it > yourself . > > > > Please be realistic in writing and about others cognitive > levels . Do not try to put down some meaning less words thinking > that it is philosophy and you will be admired..no never it will > happen . > > > > Thanks , > > Aries > > > > > > > > > > > > > > svc_astro <svc_astro@ ..> wrote: > > Dear Rishi/Vivek, > > > > Namaste. Thank you for the concurrence. The problem nowadays is > that > > most folks act as if they have taken the responsibility to change > > every , every website and that they are the God given > > gift to mankind. This just shows that their 'I' is established > > firmly. What they do not realize is that an act of giving, a kind > > word, a grateful deed, proper use of courteous language will go a > > long way in burning their karma & building a healthy relationship > > with the divine. Use of aggressive words is a sign of weakness, > > insecurity & one of leading a unharmonious life. > > > > Coming back to the subject proper viz. " Nadi Astrology " . As per my > > anubhava nadi shabda has its roots in nas (nerves). Literally nadi > > means 'nerves'. Connecting it with Nadi Astrology, is is Saturn > that > > rules nadis. Saturn exalts in tula rasi. Tula represents the > > balance. Saturn is connected with vayu in panchanga. Remember Lagna > > is twacha (vayu tatva), 2nd bhava is netra (agni tatva), 3rd is > > karana (ears; akaasha), 4th is nasika (nose; kshiti tatwa) and 5th > > is jihba (tongue; apo tatva). Saturn is connected with nakshatra. > > Mangal with vaara. Guru with akasha. Budha (mercury) with karana > and > > Shukra with thithi as per panchanga classification. > > > > Let me post some thoughts on jeeva nadi & connection with astrology > > as I have some time today and am back from temple activities. > > > > We said above that Saturn rules nadi. Meaning the connection with > > vayu element (breath; prana) is apparent. There are 3 prominent > > nadis viz. ida, pingala and sushumna which are in the sookshma > > shareera. The svara (breath) either flows through ida or pingala in > > a jiva. This gives delusion, illusion & error. The whole aim is to > > balance the breath and allow it to flow through the central nadi > > system called sushumna. Once the breath begins to flow through the > > central channel one begins to get guru anubhava and the nada dhvani > > begins to emanate from antahkarana. Sound is a function of akash > > tatva. This is the true jeeva nadi. It is through this madhyam that > > the maharishis communicate to the intended sishya (nadi reader) to > > give a jeeva nadi reading. We must check up Saturn in both rasi and > > amsa to see link with jeeva nadi from poorva janma. Jeeva nadi > > reading is direct communication channel (sushumna breathing) with > > the uplink (divine). This kind of reading is given to a jeeva who > is > > moving from a state of tamas (ignorance; darkness) to jyoti > (light). > > Again, it is the maharishi who pulls the jeeva to give the reading > > and is not done so as per the desire of the jeeva. In simpler words > > in no way do we have any say in anything in this cosmos. We are a > > reflection of our karma. When the time is right, the karma is > > exhausted to a certain bandwidth, the guru will reveal to us in the > > form of jeeva nadi reading or materialising or anyother means for > > that matter. This means that it is pointless abandon our daily > > effort in search for the unknown through nadi leaves and nadi > > readings. Maharishis do not entertain abandonment of karma for > > momentary gratification of senses through self desired nadi > > readings. Nadi reading will come to you sitting in your house if it > > is intended to. This is what I had written (implied) in my previous > > postings to the group which Mr. Rohit point blank abused me for. I > > took it that he did not understand a word. I remained increasingly > > courteous to him. He responded back by being aggressive not only to > > me but to one and all. I still wish him the all the best with all > my > > heart and pray that God give him the buddhi to be kind to one and > > all. > > > > With that I rest my case and hope that there is increasing > > courteousness and lesser finger pointing & agressiveness on the > > group. Let us all thank the moderator/creator of this group for > > giving us a brilliant platform to discuss. Let us also thank Shri > > Shashikant Ji for a wonderful book that he has donated to mankind. > > Let us thank the makers of the website for providing all of us a > > wonderful medium to get newer research information. > > > > Every inch of knowledge that is received from any source must be > > appreciated and thanked for..That is how it should be. > > > > Best Wishes. > > > > , " Rishi Prasad " > > <rishiprasad@ > wrote: > > > > > > namaskar, > > > i would tend to agree with svc. even if my views are not in sync > > with that > > > of others, it is hardly appropriate to go on the offensive as > > rohit has done > > > and get abusive in the manner that he has done. vivek also seems > > to hold the > > > same point of view. i would really request everyone to not use > this > > > platform-to which i am absolutely new-as a means of showing their > > online > > > muscle or aggression. lets just talk astrology and try and learn > > from each > > > other.i am a professional astrologer based in delhi. but i am not > > looking > > > for work through this group. i would simply be happy to share the > > little > > > knowledge i have with anyone who might be helped by it. > > > regards, > > > rishi > > > www.rishiprasad. com > > > > > > 2008/5/9 svc_astro <svc_astro@> : > > > > > > > Namaste. All topics are related to TRUTH. EKAM SATYA. Is it > > not?! > > > > Seems like I irritated you and you felt bad about the posting > > that > > > > was made. I am sorry if you felt that way. Please contemplate > > more > > > > and try to understand the post that was made rather than take > > things > > > > personally. You seem to be an emotional person who jumps at > > > > everything. > > > > > > > > MODERATOR: Is this kind of outburst/abuse allowed on this > group? > > I am > > > > hoping folks like this person are more courteous in their > > exchange of > > > > words & use of language. > > > > > > > > Best Wishes. > > > > > > > > <% > > 40. com>, > > > > ~Rohit~ <rrohit_123@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > What rubbish is this Mr. Astro?? > > > > > Can you tell me tell me single sentence out of all the 25 > lines > > > > you have written which is related to the topic I have posted > > here? I > > > > have seen your previous posts also, you reply to the posts with > > the > > > > rubbish which is not related to the topic which was going on. > If > > you > > > > want to post your philosophy why don't you start a new thread > and > > > > invite others to comment on it. Just because you want others to > > > > notice you and make you feel important why rattle a philosophy > > which > > > > kills the good topic started by others. > > > > > > > > > > My topic was about past life predictions given by even road > > side > > > > tellers and common people including beggars and wanted members > to > > > > think about it how it's possible and give their views. Can you > > tell > > > > me whether you have read my post at least, if yes, have you got > > it > > > > what it's saying? I have asked to ponder on this topic, not on > > your > > > > life's philosophy. Please post a new message next time you want > > to > > > > say something good to the forum. > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > svc_astro <svc_astro@> wrote: >>>All comments are > > > > welcome. > > > > > > > > > > Namaste. Thank you for giving an opportunity to ponder & > > express. > > > > > Future is food for the mind. Past is akin to looking in the > > rear > > > > > view mirror and driving. Can you drive by looking at the rear > > view > > > > > mirror?! A true yogi is changing his bhagya (destiny) every > > single > > > > > breath (kshana). This is how sadhana is: the more you > receive, > > the > > > > > more you want to do sadhana. Fruit is given as the process > > takes > > > > > place. You constantly want to make a greater & greater > effort. > > But > > > > > let me tell you , it doesnt become easier. If you think the > > more > > > > > sadhana you do, the easier it will get you are wrong. The more > > > > > sadhana you do, the more difficult it gets..but it is more > > > > exciting. > > > > > > > > > > Do not worry about past or future in the form of nadi > readings. > > > > Live > > > > > in the moment, the present. In this moment is the possibility > > of > > > > > attaining THAT..Even though Self is fully manifest within us, > > it > > > > > only thru awakening of Shakti and the process of sadhana that > > it is > > > > > revealed. Guru is trikalagyaani. It is your destiny that > > brings you > > > > > to the Guru to receive shaktipat, but then you must make the > > right > > > > > self effort to cultivate golden virtues. Without action there > > can > > > > be > > > > > no jnaana. The crux of the matter is that nothing comes > > easily. You > > > > > have to work for it; you have to put the effort. It is as > > simple as > > > > > that. Nadi reading or not, past or future, whatever, it does > > not > > > > > matter..You must make the effort!! > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes. > > > > > > > > > > <% > > 40. com>, > > > > ~Rohit~ <rrohit_123@ > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There seems to be general feeling of thrill in this forum > > with > > > > > regards to 100 percent accuracy of past predictions given by > > naadi > > > > > readers. This past accuracy induces the trust in seekers mind > > > > > towards the naadi reader. I would like to mention that I am > > not at > > > > > all amazed by this past predictions thing. I have through this > > > > > before accidently many times, but I am not sure of the > > > > > technicalities behind this accuracy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There have been many stories told my mom, how some person > > came > > > > > for begging in the afternoon while I was away in school and > > how he > > > > > said many thing about our home ( your husband working here, > how > > > > many > > > > > sons, daughters, son now in school, including some of the > > things > > > > > like yesterday you fought, your son came top in exams etc ). > > But > > > > > these sadhus or sometimes plain beggars can't tell anything > > about > > > > > future. Sometimes they even fool the people into giving them > > cash. > > > > > My mom got fooled once. They even know how much amount is > there > > > > > right now in the house. I once encountered this kind of > person > > in > > > > my > > > > > college times and drove him away. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My recent experience: I had a visit to Hyderabad to my > > relatives > > > > > place around 1 yr back. We were sitting in veranda when such > > person > > > > > came across for begging. He was dressed like half sadhu, He > > started > > > > > rattling same thing, all accurate to my aunt and mom. I was > > > > > surprised but we have seen this before and it was not big > > deal. We > > > > > gave him 2 rupees and ask him to please go next door bluntly. > > We > > > > > went away silently. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my school days, when I visited my village, I remember > > vaguely > > > > > people used to come with bulls ( who were decorated and > > colored ) > > > > on > > > > > Makar Sankranthi , stand in front of house and used to tell > > some > > > > > predictions like this before taking dhaan ( Usually raw rice , > > > > > pulses etc). If I remember correctly bull so some kind of > > dance by > > > > > waving their heads and their language of poetic. It was fun > > for us. > > > > > Of course those predictions were accurate with regards to > past. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not sure what's behind all this, may be experienced > > members > > > > > can throw light on this. All naadi readers I have visited > told > > only > > > > > about my name, parent's name, date of birth etc. However above > > > > > people went great lengths into the past. All comments are > > welcome. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Rohit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with > > > > > Mobile. Try it now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with > > Mobile. > > > > Try it now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Rishi > > > www.rishiprasad. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. > Try it now. > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. 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Guest guest Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 Oh common Mr Astro, My intention was not to show you exit door of this forum and I have nothing personal against you and nobody will stop you posting your thoughts and starting your own threads. My request is please stay on coz I dont want to be the cause of loss of one member. Also as per withdrawing from discussions, I would be withdrawing after sometime coz this is not my profession nor my purpose in life. You being in profession similar to this , I think you should stay and fight the arguments with proper logical postings, not withdraw just becoz somebody criticized you. Hope to see your posts again. Anyways I still stand by views. Best Wishes svc_astro <svc_astro wrote: Dear Shri Rohit,Namaste. This is my last post. I choose to withdraw from all discussions. I am sorry if I hurt you in anyway..that was not my intent at anytime. I am also sorry if you & Shri Seshadri found my postings useless and out of place.I wish you the very best in life & in your search for true knowledge.Take Care & Best Wishes. , ~Rohit~ <rrohit_123 wrote:>> Seshadri ji> > Very correct and concise points with regards to how to show respect to other members in the forum and also their posts. However no mater how much you remind this to members like Mr Astro, he wont understand, instead he will reply with his jeeva naadi article.> > Thanks> Rohit> > > Sesh Krish <kseshadri_2000 wrote:> Dear list,> It saddens to see the kind of outbursts in the list, in past... thread.> Please be sensitive to others. If some one starts a thread, he would get upset if the topic is changed within the thread. Right thing is to start a new thread.> AND, > There will be many who will enjoy your thoughts, but dont go for the easy route of replying under the same thread. Start a new one. You owe it to others in the list. The list is a platform and you have certain obligations if you want to enjoy that company.> > It is so easy to let your emotions take hold and pour it out here. Exchange of views, discussion, criticism are all part of human interaction.> > But dont attack the person. Attack the point, you disagree. > > And try and be courteous. > > On the other hand read your post twice before posting it, to check if others might misunderstand as an egoistic one or hurting some one.> > Being kind is much more difficult than being rude. Being rude is so easy, Every body can do it. We can exchange blows and more blow and more blow.> > You are engagin in a psychological excercise and game. And two people will always find each other to fulfill the counter-party to do this.> > But the purpose of the list will vanish.> > Just think about it.> > With regards to everyone,> Seshadri> > --- On Sat, 5/10/08, svc_astro <svc_astro wrote:> > svc_astro <svc_astro> Re: Past life predictions …..No big deal ...topic to ponder on …> > Saturday, May 10, 2008, 7:21 AM> > Dear Aries - > > Namaste. I was referring to deeper context/dynamics of jeeva nadi.> > Seems like some enjoyed my posts while others did not. This is the > duality in which we all live in. Some are happy. Some are sad. Some > are selfish. Some are selfless. > > I am sorry if my posting made no sense to you. You are free to ignore > it. I wish you all the best. > > Best Wishes.> > , aries <waryaries@ ..> wrote:> >> > Namaste , Good luck to you all .> > > > Dear Astro can you please tell me what was your intenstion when > you wrote such a long mail ? , to me, I could not make head or tail > out of it . > > > > I believe the topic was about " Past Prediction Accurancy " , > does your mail has something on it , please be kind to ignorant > souls - Please let us know if this was about the same topic .> > > > Initially I addmired Sashikant Oak for his Naadi book but I have > critical eye , now I realize that he was just documenting what he > experienced in Naadi and I think that no research was done on it , > was just skin deep . This is my observation about the book and > website .> > I believe I have the right to comment on it .> > > > If you know astrology you will realize that it is about > satistics and experience in interpreting the statistical data but > Naadi is totally mysterious . Some one who doesnt ( normaly ) show > you the leaf but keeps uttering some stanza and explain to you, if > the leaf he reads is yours why cant they give you the copy or leaf > itself ? . The Naadi people claim them selves as "readers" and not > astrologers , if yiou know sanskrit or vattazhuthu you can read it > yourself .> > > > Please be realistic in writing and about others cognitive > levels . Do not try to put down some meaning less words thinking > that it is philosophy and you will be admired..no never it will > happen . > > > > Thanks ,> > Aries> > > > > > > > > > > > > > svc_astro <svc_astro@ ..> wrote:> > Dear Rishi/Vivek, > > > > Namaste. Thank you for the concurrence. The problem nowadays is > that > > most folks act as if they have taken the responsibility to change > > every , every website and that they are the God given > > gift to mankind. This just shows that their 'I' is established > > firmly. What they do not realize is that an act of giving, a kind > > word, a grateful deed, proper use of courteous language will go a > > long way in burning their karma & building a healthy relationship > > with the divine. Use of aggressive words is a sign of weakness, > > insecurity & one of leading a unharmonious life. > > > > Coming back to the subject proper viz. "Nadi Astrology". As per my > > anubhava nadi shabda has its roots in nas (nerves). Literally nadi > > means 'nerves'. Connecting it with Nadi Astrology, is is Saturn > that > > rules nadis. Saturn exalts in tula rasi. Tula represents the > > balance. Saturn is connected with vayu in panchanga. Remember Lagna > > is twacha (vayu tatva), 2nd bhava is netra (agni tatva), 3rd is > > karana (ears; akaasha), 4th is nasika (nose; kshiti tatwa) and 5th > > is jihba (tongue; apo tatva). Saturn is connected with nakshatra. > > Mangal with vaara. Guru with akasha. Budha (mercury) with karana > and > > Shukra with thithi as per panchanga classification. > > > > Let me post some thoughts on jeeva nadi & connection with astrology > > as I have some time today and am back from temple activities. > > > > We said above that Saturn rules nadi. Meaning the connection with > > vayu element (breath; prana) is apparent. There are 3 prominent > > nadis viz. ida, pingala and sushumna which are in the sookshma > > shareera. The svara (breath) either flows through ida or pingala in > > a jiva. This gives delusion, illusion & error. The whole aim is to > > balance the breath and allow it to flow through the central nadi > > system called sushumna. Once the breath begins to flow through the > > central channel one begins to get guru anubhava and the nada dhvani > > begins to emanate from antahkarana. Sound is a function of akash > > tatva. This is the true jeeva nadi. It is through this madhyam that > > the maharishis communicate to the intended sishya (nadi reader) to > > give a jeeva nadi reading. We must check up Saturn in both rasi and > > amsa to see link with jeeva nadi from poorva janma. Jeeva nadi > > reading is direct communication channel (sushumna breathing) with > > the uplink (divine). This kind of reading is given to a jeeva who > is > > moving from a state of tamas (ignorance; darkness) to jyoti > (light). > > Again, it is the maharishi who pulls the jeeva to give the reading > > and is not done so as per the desire of the jeeva. In simpler words > > in no way do we have any say in anything in this cosmos. We are a > > reflection of our karma. When the time is right, the karma is > > exhausted to a certain bandwidth, the guru will reveal to us in the > > form of jeeva nadi reading or materialising or anyother means for > > that matter. This means that it is pointless abandon our daily > > effort in search for the unknown through nadi leaves and nadi > > readings. Maharishis do not entertain abandonment of karma for > > momentary gratification of senses through self desired nadi > > readings. Nadi reading will come to you sitting in your house if it > > is intended to. This is what I had written (implied) in my previous > > postings to the group which Mr. Rohit point blank abused me for. I > > took it that he did not understand a word. I remained increasingly > > courteous to him. He responded back by being aggressive not only to > > me but to one and all. I still wish him the all the best with all > my > > heart and pray that God give him the buddhi to be kind to one and > > all. > > > > With that I rest my case and hope that there is increasing > > courteousness and lesser finger pointing & agressiveness on the > > group. Let us all thank the moderator/creator of this group for > > giving us a brilliant platform to discuss. Let us also thank Shri > > Shashikant Ji for a wonderful book that he has donated to mankind. > > Let us thank the makers of the website for providing all of us a > > wonderful medium to get newer research information. > > > > Every inch of knowledge that is received from any source must be > > appreciated and thanked for..That is how it should be. > > > > Best Wishes.> > > > , "Rishi Prasad" > > <rishiprasad@ > wrote:> > >> > > namaskar,> > > i would tend to agree with svc. even if my views are not in sync > > with that> > > of others, it is hardly appropriate to go on the offensive as > > rohit has done> > > and get abusive in the manner that he has done. vivek also seems > > to hold the> > > same point of view. i would really request everyone to not use > this> > > platform-to which i am absolutely new-as a means of showing their > > online> > > muscle or aggression. lets just talk astrology and try and learn > > from each> > > other.i am a professional astrologer based in delhi. but i am not > > looking> > > for work through this group. i would simply be happy to share the > > little> > > knowledge i have with anyone who might be helped by it.> > > regards,> > > rishi> > > www.rishiprasad. com> > > > > > 2008/5/9 svc_astro <svc_astro@> :> > > > > > > Namaste. All topics are related to TRUTH. EKAM SATYA. Is it > > not?!> > > > Seems like I irritated you and you felt bad about the posting > > that> > > > was made. I am sorry if you felt that way. Please contemplate > > more> > > > and try to understand the post that was made rather than take > > things> > > > personally. You seem to be an emotional person who jumps at> > > > everything.> > > >> > > > MODERATOR: Is this kind of outburst/abuse allowed on this > group? > > I am> > > > hoping folks like this person are more courteous in their > > exchange of> > > > words & use of language.> > > >> > > > Best Wishes.> > > >> > > > <%> > 40. com>,> > > > ~Rohit~ <rrohit_123@ > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > What rubbish is this Mr. Astro??> > > > > Can you tell me tell me single sentence out of all the 25 > lines> > > > you have written which is related to the topic I have posted > > here? I> > > > have seen your previous posts also, you reply to the posts with > > the> > > > rubbish which is not related to the topic which was going on. > If > > you> > > > want to post your philosophy why don't you start a new thread > and> > > > invite others to comment on it. Just because you want others to> > > > notice you and make you feel important why rattle a philosophy > > which> > > > kills the good topic started by others.> > > > >> > > > > My topic was about past life predictions given by even road > > side> > > > tellers and common people including beggars and wanted members > to> > > > think about it how it's possible and give their views. Can you > > tell> > > > me whether you have read my post at least, if yes, have you got > > it> > > > what it's saying? I have asked to ponder on this topic, not on > > your> > > > life's philosophy. Please post a new message next time you want > > to> > > > say something good to the forum.> > > > > Thanks> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > svc_astro <svc_astro@> wrote: >>>All comments are> > > > welcome.> > > > >> > > > > Namaste. Thank you for giving an opportunity to ponder & > > express.> > > > > Future is food for the mind. Past is akin to looking in the > > rear> > > > > view mirror and driving. Can you drive by looking at the rear > > view> > > > > mirror?! A true yogi is changing his bhagya (destiny) every > > single> > > > > breath (kshana). This is how sadhana is: the more you > receive, > > the> > > > > more you want to do sadhana. Fruit is given as the process > > takes> > > > > place. You constantly want to make a greater & greater > effort. > > But> > > > > let me tell you , it doesnt become easier. If you think the > > more> > > > > sadhana you do, the easier it will get you are wrong. The more> > > > > sadhana you do, the more difficult it gets..but it is more> > > > exciting.> > > > >> > > > > Do not worry about past or future in the form of nadi > readings.> > > > Live> > > > > in the moment, the present. In this moment is the possibility > > of> > > > > attaining THAT..Even though Self is fully manifest within us, > > it> > > > > only thru awakening of Shakti and the process of sadhana that > > it is> > > > > revealed. Guru is trikalagyaani. It is your destiny that > > brings you> > > > > to the Guru to receive shaktipat, but then you must make the > > right> > > > > self effort to cultivate golden virtues. Without action there > > can> > > > be> > > > > no jnaana. The crux of the matter is that nothing comes > > easily. You> > > > > have to work for it; you have to put the effort. It is as > > simple as> > > > > that. Nadi reading or not, past or future, whatever, it does > > not> > > > > matter..You must make the effort!!> > > > >> > > > > Best Wishes.> > > > >> > > > > --- In <%> > 40. com>,> > > > ~Rohit~ <rrohit_123@ >> > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Members,> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > There seems to be general feeling of thrill in this forum > > with> > > > > regards to 100 percent accuracy of past predictions given by > > naadi> > > > > readers. This past accuracy induces the trust in seekers mind> > > > > towards the naadi reader. I would like to mention that I am > > not at> > > > > all amazed by this past predictions thing. I have through this> > > > > before accidently many times, but I am not sure of the> > > > > technicalities behind this accuracy.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > There have been many stories told my mom, how some person > > came> > > > > for begging in the afternoon while I was away in school and > > how he> > > > > said many thing about our home ( your husband working here, > how> > > > many> > > > > sons, daughters, son now in school, including some of the > > things> > > > > like yesterday you fought, your son came top in exams etc ). > > But> > > > > these sadhus or sometimes plain beggars can't tell anything > > about> > > > > future. Sometimes they even fool the people into giving them > > cash.> > > > > My mom got fooled once. They even know how much amount is > there> > > > > right now in the house. I once encountered this kind of > person > > in> > > > my> > > > > college times and drove him away.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > My recent experience: I had a visit to Hyderabad to my > > relatives> > > > > place around 1 yr back. We were sitting in veranda when such > > person> > > > > came across for begging. He was dressed like half sadhu, He > > started> > > > > rattling same thing, all accurate to my aunt and mom. I was> > > > > surprised but we have seen this before and it was not big > > deal. We> > > > > gave him 2 rupees and ask him to please go next door bluntly. > > We> > > > > went away silently.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > In my school days, when I visited my village, I remember > > vaguely> > > > > people used to come with bulls ( who were decorated and > > colored )> > > > on> > > > > Makar Sankranthi , stand in front of house and used to tell > > some> > > > > predictions like this before taking dhaan ( Usually raw rice ,> > > > > pulses etc). If I remember correctly bull so some kind of > > dance by> > > > > waving their heads and their language of poetic. It was fun > > for us.> > > > > Of course those predictions were accurate with regards to > past.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > I am not sure what's behind all this, may be experienced > > members> > > > > can throw light on this. All naadi readers I have visited > told > > only> > > > > about my name, parent's name, date of birth etc. However above> > > > > people went great lengths into the past. All comments are > > welcome.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks> > > > > > Rohit> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with > > > > > Mobile. Try it now.> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with > > Mobile.> > > > Try it now.> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Rishi> > > www.rishiprasad. com> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. > Try it now.> >> > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 Dear Rohit - Namaste. I am happy to hear from you and shake hands with you. I will take up your offer on posting my own threads as and when I get some time. Time is indeed short & a lot needs to be done in this life. I was just posting a few based on my direct jeeva nadi experiences. I will post some more later. Thank you for your warmth & encouragement. Best Wishes Always. , ~Rohit~ <rrohit_123 wrote: > > Oh common Mr Astro, > > My intention was not to show you exit door of this forum and I have nothing personal against you and nobody will stop you posting your thoughts and starting your own threads. My request is please stay on coz I dont want to be the cause of loss of one member. > > Also as per withdrawing from discussions, I would be withdrawing after sometime coz this is not my profession nor my purpose in life. You being in profession similar to this , I think you should stay and fight the arguments with proper logical postings, not withdraw just becoz somebody criticized you. > > Hope to see your posts again. Anyways I still stand by views. > > Best Wishes > > > svc_astro <svc_astro wrote: > Dear Shri Rohit, > > Namaste. This is my last post. I choose to withdraw from all > discussions. I am sorry if I hurt you in anyway..that was not my > intent at anytime. I am also sorry if you & Shri Seshadri found my > postings useless and out of place. > > I wish you the very best in life & in your search for true knowledge. > > Take Care & Best Wishes. > > , ~Rohit~ <rrohit_123@> wrote: > > > > Seshadri ji > > > > Very correct and concise points with regards to how to show > respect to other members in the forum and also their posts. However > no mater how much you remind this to members like Mr Astro, he wont > understand, instead he will reply with his jeeva naadi article. > > > > Thanks > > Rohit > > > > > > Sesh Krish <kseshadri_2000@> wrote: > > Dear list, > > It saddens to see the kind of outbursts in the list, in past... > thread. > > Please be sensitive to others. If some one starts a thread, he > would get upset if the topic is changed within the thread. Right > thing is to start a new thread. > > AND, > > There will be many who will enjoy your thoughts, but dont go for > the easy route of replying under the same thread. Start a new one. > You owe it to others in the list. The list is a platform and you have > certain obligations if you want to enjoy that company. > > > > It is so easy to let your emotions take hold and pour it out > here. Exchange of views, discussion, criticism are all part of human > interaction. > > > > But dont attack the person. Attack the point, you disagree. > > > > And try and be courteous. > > > > On the other hand read your post twice before posting it, to > check if others might misunderstand as an egoistic one or hurting > some one. > > > > Being kind is much more difficult than being rude. Being rude is > so easy, Every body can do it. We can exchange blows and more blow > and more blow. > > > > You are engagin in a psychological excercise and game. And two > people will always find each other to fulfill the counter-party to do > this. > > > > But the purpose of the list will vanish. > > > > Just think about it. > > > > With regards to everyone, > > Seshadri > > > > --- On Sat, 5/10/08, svc_astro <svc_astro@> wrote: > > > > svc_astro <svc_astro@> > > Re: Past life predictions …..No big > deal ...topic to ponder on … > > > > Saturday, May 10, 2008, 7:21 AM > > > > Dear Aries - > > > > Namaste. I was referring to deeper context/dynamics of jeeva nadi. > > > > Seems like some enjoyed my posts while others did not. This is the > > duality in which we all live in. Some are happy. Some are sad. Some > > are selfish. Some are selfless. > > > > I am sorry if my posting made no sense to you. You are free to > ignore > > it. I wish you all the best. > > > > Best Wishes. > > > > , aries <waryaries@ ..> > wrote: > > > > > > Namaste , Good luck to you all . > > > > > > Dear Astro can you please tell me what was your intenstion when > > you wrote such a long mail ? , to me, I could not make head or tail > > out of it . > > > > > > I believe the topic was about " Past Prediction Accurancy " , > > does your mail has something on it , please be kind to ignorant > > souls - Please let us know if this was about the same topic . > > > > > > Initially I addmired Sashikant Oak for his Naadi book but I have > > critical eye , now I realize that he was just documenting what he > > experienced in Naadi and I think that no research was done on it , > > was just skin deep . This is my observation about the book and > > website . > > > I believe I have the right to comment on it . > > > > > > If you know astrology you will realize that it is about > > satistics and experience in interpreting the statistical data but > > Naadi is totally mysterious . Some one who doesnt ( normaly ) show > > you the leaf but keeps uttering some stanza and explain to you, if > > the leaf he reads is yours why cant they give you the copy or leaf > > itself ? . The Naadi people claim them selves as " readers " and not > > astrologers , if yiou know sanskrit or vattazhuthu you can read it > > yourself . > > > > > > Please be realistic in writing and about others cognitive > > levels . Do not try to put down some meaning less words thinking > > that it is philosophy and you will be admired..no never it will > > happen . > > > > > > Thanks , > > > Aries > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > svc_astro <svc_astro@ ..> wrote: > > > Dear Rishi/Vivek, > > > > > > Namaste. Thank you for the concurrence. The problem nowadays is > > that > > > most folks act as if they have taken the responsibility to change > > > every , every website and that they are the God given > > > gift to mankind. This just shows that their 'I' is established > > > firmly. What they do not realize is that an act of giving, a kind > > > word, a grateful deed, proper use of courteous language will go a > > > long way in burning their karma & building a healthy relationship > > > with the divine. Use of aggressive words is a sign of weakness, > > > insecurity & one of leading a unharmonious life. > > > > > > Coming back to the subject proper viz. " Nadi Astrology " . As per > my > > > anubhava nadi shabda has its roots in nas (nerves). Literally > nadi > > > means 'nerves'. Connecting it with Nadi Astrology, is is Saturn > > that > > > rules nadis. Saturn exalts in tula rasi. Tula represents the > > > balance. Saturn is connected with vayu in panchanga. Remember > Lagna > > > is twacha (vayu tatva), 2nd bhava is netra (agni tatva), 3rd is > > > karana (ears; akaasha), 4th is nasika (nose; kshiti tatwa) and > 5th > > > is jihba (tongue; apo tatva). Saturn is connected with nakshatra. > > > Mangal with vaara. Guru with akasha. Budha (mercury) with karana > > and > > > Shukra with thithi as per panchanga classification. > > > > > > Let me post some thoughts on jeeva nadi & connection with > astrology > > > as I have some time today and am back from temple activities. > > > > > > We said above that Saturn rules nadi. Meaning the connection with > > > vayu element (breath; prana) is apparent. There are 3 prominent > > > nadis viz. ida, pingala and sushumna which are in the sookshma > > > shareera. The svara (breath) either flows through ida or pingala > in > > > a jiva. This gives delusion, illusion & error. The whole aim is > to > > > balance the breath and allow it to flow through the central nadi > > > system called sushumna. Once the breath begins to flow through > the > > > central channel one begins to get guru anubhava and the nada > dhvani > > > begins to emanate from antahkarana. Sound is a function of akash > > > tatva. This is the true jeeva nadi. It is through this madhyam > that > > > the maharishis communicate to the intended sishya (nadi reader) > to > > > give a jeeva nadi reading. We must check up Saturn in both rasi > and > > > amsa to see link with jeeva nadi from poorva janma. Jeeva nadi > > > reading is direct communication channel (sushumna breathing) with > > > the uplink (divine). This kind of reading is given to a jeeva who > > is > > > moving from a state of tamas (ignorance; darkness) to jyoti > > (light). > > > Again, it is the maharishi who pulls the jeeva to give the > reading > > > and is not done so as per the desire of the jeeva. In simpler > words > > > in no way do we have any say in anything in this cosmos. We are a > > > reflection of our karma. When the time is right, the karma is > > > exhausted to a certain bandwidth, the guru will reveal to us in > the > > > form of jeeva nadi reading or materialising or anyother means for > > > that matter. This means that it is pointless abandon our daily > > > effort in search for the unknown through nadi leaves and nadi > > > readings. Maharishis do not entertain abandonment of karma for > > > momentary gratification of senses through self desired nadi > > > readings. Nadi reading will come to you sitting in your house if > it > > > is intended to. This is what I had written (implied) in my > previous > > > postings to the group which Mr. Rohit point blank abused me for. > I > > > took it that he did not understand a word. I remained > increasingly > > > courteous to him. He responded back by being aggressive not only > to > > > me but to one and all. I still wish him the all the best with all > > my > > > heart and pray that God give him the buddhi to be kind to one and > > > all. > > > > > > With that I rest my case and hope that there is increasing > > > courteousness and lesser finger pointing & agressiveness on the > > > group. Let us all thank the moderator/creator of this group for > > > giving us a brilliant platform to discuss. Let us also thank Shri > > > Shashikant Ji for a wonderful book that he has donated to > mankind. > > > Let us thank the makers of the website for providing all of us a > > > wonderful medium to get newer research information. > > > > > > Every inch of knowledge that is received from any source must be > > > appreciated and thanked for..That is how it should be. > > > > > > Best Wishes. > > > > > > , " Rishi Prasad " > > > <rishiprasad@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > namaskar, > > > > i would tend to agree with svc. even if my views are not in > sync > > > with that > > > > of others, it is hardly appropriate to go on the offensive as > > > rohit has done > > > > and get abusive in the manner that he has done. vivek also > seems > > > to hold the > > > > same point of view. i would really request everyone to not use > > this > > > > platform-to which i am absolutely new-as a means of showing > their > > > online > > > > muscle or aggression. lets just talk astrology and try and > learn > > > from each > > > > other.i am a professional astrologer based in delhi. but i am > not > > > looking > > > > for work through this group. i would simply be happy to share > the > > > little > > > > knowledge i have with anyone who might be helped by it. > > > > regards, > > > > rishi > > > > www.rishiprasad. com > > > > > > > > 2008/5/9 svc_astro <svc_astro@> : > > > > > > > > > Namaste. All topics are related to TRUTH. EKAM SATYA. Is it > > > not?! > > > > > Seems like I irritated you and you felt bad about the posting > > > that > > > > > was made. I am sorry if you felt that way. Please contemplate > > > more > > > > > and try to understand the post that was made rather than take > > > things > > > > > personally. You seem to be an emotional person who jumps at > > > > > everything. > > > > > > > > > > MODERATOR: Is this kind of outburst/abuse allowed on this > > group? > > > I am > > > > > hoping folks like this person are more courteous in their > > > exchange of > > > > > words & use of language. > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes. > > > > > > > > > > <% > > > 40. com>, > > > > > ~Rohit~ <rrohit_123@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > What rubbish is this Mr. Astro?? > > > > > > Can you tell me tell me single sentence out of all the 25 > > lines > > > > > you have written which is related to the topic I have posted > > > here? I > > > > > have seen your previous posts also, you reply to the posts > with > > > the > > > > > rubbish which is not related to the topic which was going on. > > If > > > you > > > > > want to post your philosophy why don't you start a new thread > > and > > > > > invite others to comment on it. Just because you want others > to > > > > > notice you and make you feel important why rattle a > philosophy > > > which > > > > > kills the good topic started by others. > > > > > > > > > > > > My topic was about past life predictions given by even road > > > side > > > > > tellers and common people including beggars and wanted > members > > to > > > > > think about it how it's possible and give their views. Can > you > > > tell > > > > > me whether you have read my post at least, if yes, have you > got > > > it > > > > > what it's saying? I have asked to ponder on this topic, not > on > > > your > > > > > life's philosophy. Please post a new message next time you > want > > > to > > > > > say something good to the forum. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > svc_astro <svc_astro@> wrote: >>>All comments are > > > > > welcome. > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste. Thank you for giving an opportunity to ponder & > > > express. > > > > > > Future is food for the mind. Past is akin to looking in the > > > rear > > > > > > view mirror and driving. Can you drive by looking at the > rear > > > view > > > > > > mirror?! A true yogi is changing his bhagya (destiny) every > > > single > > > > > > breath (kshana). This is how sadhana is: the more you > > receive, > > > the > > > > > > more you want to do sadhana. Fruit is given as the process > > > takes > > > > > > place. You constantly want to make a greater & greater > > effort. > > > But > > > > > > let me tell you , it doesnt become easier. If you think the > > > more > > > > > > sadhana you do, the easier it will get you are wrong. The > more > > > > > > sadhana you do, the more difficult it gets..but it is more > > > > > exciting. > > > > > > > > > > > > Do not worry about past or future in the form of nadi > > readings. > > > > > Live > > > > > > in the moment, the present. In this moment is the > possibility > > > of > > > > > > attaining THAT..Even though Self is fully manifest within > us, > > > it > > > > > > only thru awakening of Shakti and the process of sadhana > that > > > it is > > > > > > revealed. Guru is trikalagyaani. It is your destiny that > > > brings you > > > > > > to the Guru to receive shaktipat, but then you must make > the > > > right > > > > > > self effort to cultivate golden virtues. Without action > there > > > can > > > > > be > > > > > > no jnaana. The crux of the matter is that nothing comes > > > easily. You > > > > > > have to work for it; you have to put the effort. It is as > > > simple as > > > > > > that. Nadi reading or not, past or future, whatever, it > does > > > not > > > > > > matter..You must make the effort!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > <% > > > 40. com>, > > > > > ~Rohit~ <rrohit_123@ > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There seems to be general feeling of thrill in this forum > > > with > > > > > > regards to 100 percent accuracy of past predictions given > by > > > naadi > > > > > > readers. This past accuracy induces the trust in seekers > mind > > > > > > towards the naadi reader. I would like to mention that I am > > > not at > > > > > > all amazed by this past predictions thing. I have through > this > > > > > > before accidently many times, but I am not sure of the > > > > > > technicalities behind this accuracy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There have been many stories told my mom, how some person > > > came > > > > > > for begging in the afternoon while I was away in school and > > > how he > > > > > > said many thing about our home ( your husband working here, > > how > > > > > many > > > > > > sons, daughters, son now in school, including some of the > > > things > > > > > > like yesterday you fought, your son came top in exams > etc ). > > > But > > > > > > these sadhus or sometimes plain beggars can't tell anything > > > about > > > > > > future. Sometimes they even fool the people into giving > them > > > cash. > > > > > > My mom got fooled once. They even know how much amount is > > there > > > > > > right now in the house. I once encountered this kind of > > person > > > in > > > > > my > > > > > > college times and drove him away. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My recent experience: I had a visit to Hyderabad to my > > > relatives > > > > > > place around 1 yr back. We were sitting in veranda when > such > > > person > > > > > > came across for begging. He was dressed like half sadhu, He > > > started > > > > > > rattling same thing, all accurate to my aunt and mom. I was > > > > > > surprised but we have seen this before and it was not big > > > deal. We > > > > > > gave him 2 rupees and ask him to please go next door > bluntly. > > > We > > > > > > went away silently. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my school days, when I visited my village, I remember > > > vaguely > > > > > > people used to come with bulls ( who were decorated and > > > colored ) > > > > > on > > > > > > Makar Sankranthi , stand in front of house and used to tell > > > some > > > > > > predictions like this before taking dhaan ( Usually raw > rice , > > > > > > pulses etc). If I remember correctly bull so some kind of > > > dance by > > > > > > waving their heads and their language of poetic. It was fun > > > for us. > > > > > > Of course those predictions were accurate with regards to > > past. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not sure what's behind all this, may be experienced > > > members > > > > > > can throw light on this. All naadi readers I have visited > > told > > > only > > > > > > about my name, parent's name, date of birth etc. However > above > > > > > > people went great lengths into the past. All comments are > > > welcome. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > Rohit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with > > > > > > Mobile. 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