Guest guest Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 Dear Members, There seems to be general feeling of thrill in this forum with regards to 100 percent accuracy of past predictions given by naadi readers. This past accuracy induces the trust in seekers mind towards the naadi reader. I would like to mention that I am not at all amazed by this past predictions thing. I have through this before accidently many times, but I am not sure of the technicalities behind this accuracy. There have been many stories told my mom, how some person came for begging in the afternoon while I was away in school and how he said many thing about our home ( your husband working here, how many sons, daughters, son now in school, including some of the things like yesterday you fought, your son came top in exams etc ). But these sadhus or sometimes plain beggars can’t tell anything about future. Sometimes they even fool the people into giving them cash. My mom got fooled once. They even know how much amount is there right now in the house. I once encountered this kind of person in my college times and drove him away. My recent experience: I had a visit to Hyderabad to my relatives place around 1 yr back. We were sitting in veranda when such person came across for begging. He was dressed like half sadhu, He started rattling same thing, all accurate to my aunt and mom. I was surprised but we have seen this before and it was not big deal. We gave him 2 rupees and ask him to please go next door bluntly. We went away silently. In my school days, when I visited my village, I remember vaguely people used to come with bulls ( who were decorated and colored ) on Makar Sankranthi , stand in front of house and used to tell some predictions like this before taking dhaan ( Usually raw rice , pulses etc). If I remember correctly bull so some kind of dance by waving their heads and their language of poetic. It was fun for us. Of course those predictions were accurate with regards to past. I am not sure what’s behind all this, may be experienced members can throw light on this. All naadi readers I have visited told only about my name, parent’s name, date of birth etc. However above people went great lengths into the past. All comments are welcome. Thanks Rohit Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2008 Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 >>>All comments are welcome. Namaste. Thank you for giving an opportunity to ponder & express. Future is food for the mind. Past is akin to looking in the rear view mirror and driving. Can you drive by looking at the rear view mirror?! A true yogi is changing his bhagya (destiny) every single breath (kshana). This is how sadhana is: the more you receive, the more you want to do sadhana. Fruit is given as the process takes place. You constantly want to make a greater & greater effort. But let me tell you , it doesnt become easier. If you think the more sadhana you do, the easier it will get you are wrong. The more sadhana you do, the more difficult it gets..but it is more exciting. Do not worry about past or future in the form of nadi readings. Live in the moment, the present. In this moment is the possibility of attaining THAT..Even though Self is fully manifest within us, it only thru awakening of Shakti and the process of sadhana that it is revealed. Guru is trikalagyaani. It is your destiny that brings you to the Guru to receive shaktipat, but then you must make the right self effort to cultivate golden virtues. Without action there can be no jnaana. The crux of the matter is that nothing comes easily. You have to work for it; you have to put the effort. It is as simple as that. Nadi reading or not, past or future, whatever, it does not matter..You must make the effort!! Best Wishes. , ~Rohit~ <rrohit_123 wrote: > > Dear Members, > > > There seems to be general feeling of thrill in this forum with regards to 100 percent accuracy of past predictions given by naadi readers. This past accuracy induces the trust in seekers mind towards the naadi reader. I would like to mention that I am not at all amazed by this past predictions thing. I have through this before accidently many times, but I am not sure of the technicalities behind this accuracy. > > > There have been many stories told my mom, how some person came for begging in the afternoon while I was away in school and how he said many thing about our home ( your husband working here, how many sons, daughters, son now in school, including some of the things like yesterday you fought, your son came top in exams etc ). But these sadhus or sometimes plain beggars can't tell anything about future. Sometimes they even fool the people into giving them cash. My mom got fooled once. They even know how much amount is there right now in the house. I once encountered this kind of person in my college times and drove him away. > > > > My recent experience: I had a visit to Hyderabad to my relatives place around 1 yr back. We were sitting in veranda when such person came across for begging. He was dressed like half sadhu, He started rattling same thing, all accurate to my aunt and mom. I was surprised but we have seen this before and it was not big deal. We gave him 2 rupees and ask him to please go next door bluntly. We went away silently. > > > In my school days, when I visited my village, I remember vaguely people used to come with bulls ( who were decorated and colored ) on Makar Sankranthi , stand in front of house and used to tell some predictions like this before taking dhaan ( Usually raw rice , pulses etc). If I remember correctly bull so some kind of dance by waving their heads and their language of poetic. It was fun for us. Of course those predictions were accurate with regards to past. > > > I am not sure what's behind all this, may be experienced members can throw light on this. All naadi readers I have visited told only about my name, parent's name, date of birth etc. However above people went great lengths into the past. All comments are welcome. > > > Thanks > Rohit > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2008 Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 What rubbish is this Mr. Astro?? Can you tell me tell me single sentence out of all the 25 lines you have written which is related to the topic I have posted here? I have seen your previous posts also, you reply to the posts with the rubbish which is not related to the topic which was going on. If you want to post your philosophy why don’t you start a new thread and invite others to comment on it. Just because you want others to notice you and make you feel important why rattle a philosophy which kills the good topic started by others. My topic was about past life predictions given by even road side tellers and common people including beggars and wanted members to think about it how it’s possible and give their views. Can you tell me whether you have read my post at least, if yes, have you got it what it’s saying? I have asked to ponder on this topic, not on your life’s philosophy. Please post a new message next time you want to say something good to the forum. Thankssvc_astro <svc_astro wrote: >>>All comments are welcome.Namaste. Thank you for giving an opportunity to ponder & express. Future is food for the mind. Past is akin to looking in the rear view mirror and driving. Can you drive by looking at the rear view mirror?! A true yogi is changing his bhagya (destiny) every single breath (kshana). This is how sadhana is: the more you receive, the more you want to do sadhana. Fruit is given as the process takes place. You constantly want to make a greater & greater effort. But let me tell you , it doesnt become easier. If you think the more sadhana you do, the easier it will get you are wrong. The more sadhana you do, the more difficult it gets..but it is more exciting. Do not worry about past or future in the form of nadi readings. Live in the moment, the present. In this moment is the possibility of attaining THAT..Even though Self is fully manifest within us, it only thru awakening of Shakti and the process of sadhana that it is revealed. Guru is trikalagyaani. It is your destiny that brings you to the Guru to receive shaktipat, but then you must make the right self effort to cultivate golden virtues. Without action there can be no jnaana. The crux of the matter is that nothing comes easily. You have to work for it; you have to put the effort. It is as simple as that. Nadi reading or not, past or future, whatever, it does not matter..You must make the effort!! Best Wishes. , ~Rohit~ <rrohit_123 wrote:>> Dear Members,> > > There seems to be general feeling of thrill in this forum with regards to 100 percent accuracy of past predictions given by naadi readers. This past accuracy induces the trust in seekers mind towards the naadi reader. I would like to mention that I am not at all amazed by this past predictions thing. I have through this before accidently many times, but I am not sure of the technicalities behind this accuracy.> > > There have been many stories told my mom, how some person came for begging in the afternoon while I was away in school and how he said many thing about our home ( your husband working here, how many sons, daughters, son now in school, including some of the things like yesterday you fought, your son came top in exams etc ). But these sadhus or sometimes plain beggars can't tell anything about future. Sometimes they even fool the people into giving them cash. My mom got fooled once. They even know how much amount is there right now in the house. I once encountered this kind of person in my college times and drove him away.> > > > My recent experience: I had a visit to Hyderabad to my relatives place around 1 yr back. We were sitting in veranda when such person came across for begging. He was dressed like half sadhu, He started rattling same thing, all accurate to my aunt and mom. I was surprised but we have seen this before and it was not big deal. We gave him 2 rupees and ask him to please go next door bluntly. We went away silently. > > > In my school days, when I visited my village, I remember vaguely people used to come with bulls ( who were decorated and colored ) on Makar Sankranthi , stand in front of house and used to tell some predictions like this before taking dhaan ( Usually raw rice , pulses etc). If I remember correctly bull so some kind of dance by waving their heads and their language of poetic. It was fun for us. Of course those predictions were accurate with regards to past. > > > I am not sure what's behind all this, may be experienced members can throw light on this. All naadi readers I have visited told only about my name, parent's name, date of birth etc. However above people went great lengths into the past. All comments are welcome.> > > Thanks> Rohit> > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 Rohit, Please see the starting sentence of each one of you: Mr. Astro and Rohit. Mr. Astro starts with "Namaste" and you start with "What Rubbish....". Forget for a moment what Mr. Astro might have written. Vivek From: rrohit_123Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 13:38:08 -0700Re: Re: Past life predictions …..No big deal ...topic to ponder on … What rubbish is this Mr. Astro?? Can you tell me tell me single sentence out of all the 25 lines you have written which is related to the topic I have posted here? I have seen your previous posts also, you reply to the posts with the rubbish which is not related to the topic which was going on. If you want to post your philosophy why don’t you start a new thread and invite others to comment on it. Just because you want others to notice you and make you feel important why rattle a philosophy which kills the good topic started by others. My topic was about past life predictions given by even road side tellers and common people including beggars and wanted members to think about it how it’s possible and give their views. Can you tell me whether you have read my post at least, if yes, have you got it what it’s saying? I have asked to ponder on this topic, not on your life’s philosophy. Please post a new message next time you want to say something good to the forum. Thankssvc_astro <svc_astro > wrote: >>>All comments are welcome.Namaste. Thank you for giving an opportunity to ponder & express. Future is food for the mind. Past is akin to looking in the rear view mirror and driving. Can you drive by looking at the rear view mirror?! A true yogi is changing his bhagya (destiny) every single breath (kshana). This is how sadhana is: the more you receive, the more you want to do sadhana. Fruit is given as the process takes place. You constantly want to make a greater & greater effort. But let me tell you , it doesnt become easier. If you think the more sadhana you do, the easier it will get you are wrong. The more sadhana you do, the more difficult it gets..but it is more exciting. Do not worry about past or future in the form of nadi readings. Live in the moment, the present. In this moment is the possibility of attaining THAT..Even though Self is fully manifest within us, it only thru awakening of Shakti and the process of sadhana that it is revealed. Guru is trikalagyaani. It is your destiny that brings you to the Guru to receive shaktipat, but then you must make the right self effort to cultivate golden virtues. Without action there can be no jnaana. The crux of the matter is that nothing comes easily. You have to work for it; you have to put the effort. It is as simple as that. Nadi reading or not, past or future, whatever, it does not matter..You must make the effort!! Best Wishes. , ~Rohit~ <rrohit_123 wrote:>> Dear Members,> > > There seems to be general feeling of thrill in this forum with regards to 100 percent accuracy of past predictions given by naadi readers. This past accuracy induces the trust in seekers mind towards the naadi reader. I would like to mention that I am not at all amazed by this past predictions thing. I have through this before accidently many times, but I am not sure of the technicalities behind this accuracy.> > > There have been many stories told my mom, how some person came for begging in the afternoon while I was away in school and how he said many thing about our home ( your husband working here, how many sons, daughters, son now in school, including some of the things like yesterday you fought, your son came top in exams etc ). But these sadhus or sometimes plain beggars can't tell anything about future. Sometimes they even fool the people into giving them cash. My mom got fooled once. They even know how much amount is there right now in the house. I once encountered this kind of person in my college times and drove him away.> > > > My recent experience: I had a visit to Hyderabad to my relatives place around 1 yr back. We were sitting in veranda when such person came across for begging. He was dressed like half sadhu, He started rattling same thing, all accurate to my aunt and mom. I was surprised but we have seen this before and it was not big deal. We gave him 2 rupees and ask him to please go next door bluntly. We went away silently. > > > In my school days, when I visited my village, I remember vaguely people used to come with bulls ( who were decorated and colored ) on Makar Sankranthi , stand in front of house and used to tell some predictions like this before taking dhaan ( Usually raw rice , pulses etc). If I remember correctly bull so some kind of dance by waving their heads and their language of poetic. It was fun for us. Of course those predictions were accurate with regards to past. > > > I am not sure what's behind all this, may be experienced members can throw light on this. All naadi readers I have visited told only about my name, parent's name, date of birth etc. However above people went great lengths into the past. All comments are welcome.> > > Thanks> Rohit> > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Live.in : Get your yourname email id today. Powered by Windows Live Hotmail. Check it out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 Namaste. All topics are related to TRUTH. EKAM SATYA. Is it not?! Seems like I irritated you and you felt bad about the posting that was made. I am sorry if you felt that way. Please contemplate more and try to understand the post that was made rather than take things personally. You seem to be an emotional person who jumps at everything. MODERATOR: Is this kind of outburst/abuse allowed on this group? I am hoping folks like this person are more courteous in their exchange of words & use of language. Best Wishes. , ~Rohit~ <rrohit_123 wrote: > > What rubbish is this Mr. Astro?? > Can you tell me tell me single sentence out of all the 25 lines you have written which is related to the topic I have posted here? I have seen your previous posts also, you reply to the posts with the rubbish which is not related to the topic which was going on. If you want to post your philosophy why don't you start a new thread and invite others to comment on it. Just because you want others to notice you and make you feel important why rattle a philosophy which kills the good topic started by others. > > My topic was about past life predictions given by even road side tellers and common people including beggars and wanted members to think about it how it's possible and give their views. Can you tell me whether you have read my post at least, if yes, have you got it what it's saying? I have asked to ponder on this topic, not on your life's philosophy. Please post a new message next time you want to say something good to the forum. > Thanks > > > svc_astro <svc_astro wrote: >>>All comments are welcome. > > Namaste. Thank you for giving an opportunity to ponder & express. > Future is food for the mind. Past is akin to looking in the rear > view mirror and driving. Can you drive by looking at the rear view > mirror?! A true yogi is changing his bhagya (destiny) every single > breath (kshana). This is how sadhana is: the more you receive, the > more you want to do sadhana. Fruit is given as the process takes > place. You constantly want to make a greater & greater effort. But > let me tell you , it doesnt become easier. If you think the more > sadhana you do, the easier it will get you are wrong. The more > sadhana you do, the more difficult it gets..but it is more exciting. > > Do not worry about past or future in the form of nadi readings. Live > in the moment, the present. In this moment is the possibility of > attaining THAT..Even though Self is fully manifest within us, it > only thru awakening of Shakti and the process of sadhana that it is > revealed. Guru is trikalagyaani. It is your destiny that brings you > to the Guru to receive shaktipat, but then you must make the right > self effort to cultivate golden virtues. Without action there can be > no jnaana. The crux of the matter is that nothing comes easily. You > have to work for it; you have to put the effort. It is as simple as > that. Nadi reading or not, past or future, whatever, it does not > matter..You must make the effort!! > > Best Wishes. > > , ~Rohit~ <rrohit_123@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > There seems to be general feeling of thrill in this forum with > regards to 100 percent accuracy of past predictions given by naadi > readers. This past accuracy induces the trust in seekers mind > towards the naadi reader. I would like to mention that I am not at > all amazed by this past predictions thing. I have through this > before accidently many times, but I am not sure of the > technicalities behind this accuracy. > > > > > > There have been many stories told my mom, how some person came > for begging in the afternoon while I was away in school and how he > said many thing about our home ( your husband working here, how many > sons, daughters, son now in school, including some of the things > like yesterday you fought, your son came top in exams etc ). But > these sadhus or sometimes plain beggars can't tell anything about > future. Sometimes they even fool the people into giving them cash. > My mom got fooled once. They even know how much amount is there > right now in the house. I once encountered this kind of person in my > college times and drove him away. > > > > > > > > My recent experience: I had a visit to Hyderabad to my relatives > place around 1 yr back. We were sitting in veranda when such person > came across for begging. He was dressed like half sadhu, He started > rattling same thing, all accurate to my aunt and mom. I was > surprised but we have seen this before and it was not big deal. We > gave him 2 rupees and ask him to please go next door bluntly. We > went away silently. > > > > > > In my school days, when I visited my village, I remember vaguely > people used to come with bulls ( who were decorated and colored ) on > Makar Sankranthi , stand in front of house and used to tell some > predictions like this before taking dhaan ( Usually raw rice , > pulses etc). If I remember correctly bull so some kind of dance by > waving their heads and their language of poetic. It was fun for us. > Of course those predictions were accurate with regards to past. > > > > > > I am not sure what's behind all this, may be experienced members > can throw light on this. All naadi readers I have visited told only > about my name, parent's name, date of birth etc. However above > people went great lengths into the past. All comments are welcome. > > > > > > Thanks > > Rohit > > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with > Mobile. Try it now. > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 namaskar,i would tend to agree with svc. even if my views are not in sync with that of others, it is hardly appropriate to go on the offensive as rohit has done and get abusive in the manner that he has done. vivek also seems to hold the same point of view. i would really request everyone to not use this platform-to which i am absolutely new-as a means of showing their online muscle or aggression. lets just talk astrology and try and learn from each other.i am a professional astrologer based in delhi. but i am not looking for work through this group. i would simply be happy to share the little knowledge i have with anyone who might be helped by it. regards,rishiwww.rishiprasad.com2008/5/9 svc_astro <svc_astro: Namaste. All topics are related to TRUTH. EKAM SATYA. Is it not?! Seems like I irritated you and you felt bad about the posting that was made. I am sorry if you felt that way. Please contemplate more and try to understand the post that was made rather than take things personally. You seem to be an emotional person who jumps at everything. MODERATOR: Is this kind of outburst/abuse allowed on this group? I am hoping folks like this person are more courteous in their exchange of words & use of language. Best Wishes. , ~Rohit~ <rrohit_123 wrote: > > What rubbish is this Mr. Astro?? > Can you tell me tell me single sentence out of all the 25 lines you have written which is related to the topic I have posted here? I have seen your previous posts also, you reply to the posts with the rubbish which is not related to the topic which was going on. If you want to post your philosophy why don't you start a new thread and invite others to comment on it. Just because you want others to notice you and make you feel important why rattle a philosophy which kills the good topic started by others. > > My topic was about past life predictions given by even road side tellers and common people including beggars and wanted members to think about it how it's possible and give their views. Can you tell me whether you have read my post at least, if yes, have you got it what it's saying? I have asked to ponder on this topic, not on your life's philosophy. Please post a new message next time you want to say something good to the forum. > Thanks > > > svc_astro <svc_astro wrote: >>>All comments are welcome. > > Namaste. Thank you for giving an opportunity to ponder & express. > Future is food for the mind. Past is akin to looking in the rear > view mirror and driving. Can you drive by looking at the rear view > mirror?! A true yogi is changing his bhagya (destiny) every single > breath (kshana). This is how sadhana is: the more you receive, the > more you want to do sadhana. Fruit is given as the process takes > place. You constantly want to make a greater & greater effort. But > let me tell you , it doesnt become easier. If you think the more > sadhana you do, the easier it will get you are wrong. The more > sadhana you do, the more difficult it gets..but it is more exciting. > > Do not worry about past or future in the form of nadi readings. Live > in the moment, the present. In this moment is the possibility of > attaining THAT..Even though Self is fully manifest within us, it > only thru awakening of Shakti and the process of sadhana that it is > revealed. Guru is trikalagyaani. It is your destiny that brings you > to the Guru to receive shaktipat, but then you must make the right > self effort to cultivate golden virtues. Without action there can be > no jnaana. The crux of the matter is that nothing comes easily. You > have to work for it; you have to put the effort. It is as simple as > that. Nadi reading or not, past or future, whatever, it does not > matter..You must make the effort!! > > Best Wishes. > > , ~Rohit~ <rrohit_123@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > There seems to be general feeling of thrill in this forum with > regards to 100 percent accuracy of past predictions given by naadi > readers. This past accuracy induces the trust in seekers mind > towards the naadi reader. I would like to mention that I am not at > all amazed by this past predictions thing. I have through this > before accidently many times, but I am not sure of the > technicalities behind this accuracy. > > > > > > There have been many stories told my mom, how some person came > for begging in the afternoon while I was away in school and how he > said many thing about our home ( your husband working here, how many > sons, daughters, son now in school, including some of the things > like yesterday you fought, your son came top in exams etc ). But > these sadhus or sometimes plain beggars can't tell anything about > future. Sometimes they even fool the people into giving them cash. > My mom got fooled once. They even know how much amount is there > right now in the house. I once encountered this kind of person in my > college times and drove him away. > > > > > > > > My recent experience: I had a visit to Hyderabad to my relatives > place around 1 yr back. We were sitting in veranda when such person > came across for begging. He was dressed like half sadhu, He started > rattling same thing, all accurate to my aunt and mom. I was > surprised but we have seen this before and it was not big deal. We > gave him 2 rupees and ask him to please go next door bluntly. We > went away silently. > > > > > > In my school days, when I visited my village, I remember vaguely > people used to come with bulls ( who were decorated and colored ) on > Makar Sankranthi , stand in front of house and used to tell some > predictions like this before taking dhaan ( Usually raw rice , > pulses etc). If I remember correctly bull so some kind of dance by > waving their heads and their language of poetic. It was fun for us. > Of course those predictions were accurate with regards to past. > > > > > > I am not sure what's behind all this, may be experienced members > can throw light on this. All naadi readers I have visited told only > about my name, parent's name, date of birth etc. However above > people went great lengths into the past. All comments are welcome. > > > > > > Thanks > > Rohit > > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with > Mobile. Try it now. > > > > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. > -- Rishiwww.rishiprasad.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 Namaste. You are asking me try to understand the post that was made; now why don’t you do that first by understanding my post? You are asking moderator to check on my post just by one comment of my mine on yours? So how do you think others felt when you throw your garbage on their posts repeatedly? You are talk of Ekam Satya, so where your philosophy going now when you taking your complaint to moderator of somebody who is pointing fingers at you. Why don’t you leave that to God then? I m observing your last 3, 4 posts, you indulge in mockery and make fun at the posts which are normally long posts which takes effort and thought into writing it. Who do you think you are just like coming into the forum and pick the biggest post and throw your garbage which is unrelated to the post which was written? If you had a point to make nobody is stopping you to write a separate mail. I will also like that. You are saying I am emotional person jumping into everything; rather I am sound person who doesn’t like seeing the wrong things done. If you are sound person then I expect you to not to behave like psychic and give a thought to something when imposing your views on others views. May be you can call a Satsang at your neighborhood to show your skills. You are saying I abused you. I called your post rubbish, not you. If you have self respect you will mend your ways and won’t throw your rubbish again at my posts. This time I called your post rubbish, next time somebody may call you rubbish instead of calling your post rubbish. If I was moderator, I would have banned you for making fun of others posts by giving you two warnings. Hope you contemplate on this now and don’t take this personally. Best Wishes svc_astro <svc_astro wrote: Namaste. All topics are related to TRUTH. EKAM SATYA. Is it not?! Seems like I irritated you and you felt bad about the posting that was made. I am sorry if you felt that way. Please contemplate more and try to understand the post that was made rather than take things personally. You seem to be an emotional person who jumps at everything.MODERATOR: Is this kind of outburst/abuse allowed on this group? I am hoping folks like this person are more courteous in their exchange of words & use of language.Best Wishes. , ~Rohit~ <rrohit_123 wrote:>> What rubbish is this Mr. Astro??> Can you tell me tell me single sentence out of all the 25 lines you have written which is related to the topic I have posted here? I have seen your previous posts also, you reply to the posts with the rubbish which is not related to the topic which was going on. If you want to post your philosophy why don't you start a new thread and invite others to comment on it. Just because you want others to notice you and make you feel important why rattle a philosophy which kills the good topic started by others.> > My topic was about past life predictions given by even road side tellers and common people including beggars and wanted members to think about it how it's possible and give their views. Can you tell me whether you have read my post at least, if yes, have you got it what it's saying? I have asked to ponder on this topic, not on your life's philosophy. Please post a new message next time you want to say something good to the forum. > Thanks> > > svc_astro <svc_astro wrote: >>>All comments are welcome.> > Namaste. Thank you for giving an opportunity to ponder & express. > Future is food for the mind. Past is akin to looking in the rear > view mirror and driving. Can you drive by looking at the rear view > mirror?! A true yogi is changing his bhagya (destiny) every single > breath (kshana). This is how sadhana is: the more you receive, the > more you want to do sadhana. Fruit is given as the process takes > place. You constantly want to make a greater & greater effort. But > let me tell you , it doesnt become easier. If you think the more > sadhana you do, the easier it will get you are wrong. The more > sadhana you do, the more difficult it gets..but it is more exciting. > > Do not worry about past or future in the form of nadi readings. Live > in the moment, the present. In this moment is the possibility of > attaining THAT..Even though Self is fully manifest within us, it > only thru awakening of Shakti and the process of sadhana that it is > revealed. Guru is trikalagyaani. It is your destiny that brings you > to the Guru to receive shaktipat, but then you must make the right > self effort to cultivate golden virtues. Without action there can be > no jnaana. The crux of the matter is that nothing comes easily. You > have to work for it; you have to put the effort. It is as simple as > that. Nadi reading or not, past or future, whatever, it does not > matter..You must make the effort!! > > Best Wishes.> > , ~Rohit~ <rrohit_123@> > wrote:> >> > Dear Members,> > > > > > There seems to be general feeling of thrill in this forum with > regards to 100 percent accuracy of past predictions given by naadi > readers. This past accuracy induces the trust in seekers mind > towards the naadi reader. I would like to mention that I am not at > all amazed by this past predictions thing. I have through this > before accidently many times, but I am not sure of the > technicalities behind this accuracy.> > > > > > There have been many stories told my mom, how some person came > for begging in the afternoon while I was away in school and how he > said many thing about our home ( your husband working here, how many > sons, daughters, son now in school, including some of the things > like yesterday you fought, your son came top in exams etc ). But > these sadhus or sometimes plain beggars can't tell anything about > future. Sometimes they even fool the people into giving them cash. > My mom got fooled once. They even know how much amount is there > right now in the house. I once encountered this kind of person in my > college times and drove him away.> > > > > > > > My recent experience: I had a visit to Hyderabad to my relatives > place around 1 yr back. We were sitting in veranda when such person > came across for begging. He was dressed like half sadhu, He started > rattling same thing, all accurate to my aunt and mom. I was > surprised but we have seen this before and it was not big deal. We > gave him 2 rupees and ask him to please go next door bluntly. We > went away silently. > > > > > > In my school days, when I visited my village, I remember vaguely > people used to come with bulls ( who were decorated and colored ) on > Makar Sankranthi , stand in front of house and used to tell some > predictions like this before taking dhaan ( Usually raw rice , > pulses etc). If I remember correctly bull so some kind of dance by > waving their heads and their language of poetic. It was fun for us. > Of course those predictions were accurate with regards to past. > > > > > > I am not sure what's behind all this, may be experienced members > can throw light on this. All naadi readers I have visited told only > about my name, parent's name, date of birth etc. However above > people went great lengths into the past. All comments are welcome.> > > > > > Thanks> > Rohit> > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with > Mobile. Try it now.> >> > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. 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Guest guest Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 Vivek When you want to issue a strong message, you need to start with a strong statement. That’s it. It was intentional. When somebody is repeatedly crossing the limits he needs to tell in strong terms. You saying forget for a moment what Mr Astro has written. If you think its worth to forget what Mr Astro has written, just becoz first sentence starts with Rubbish, that’s your decision, not mine. And don’t expect me to give salutation to this nameless person who advertises himself with unrelated scribbling. RohitVivek Khurana <vivekkhurana wrote: Rohit, Please see the starting sentence of each one of you: Mr. Astro and Rohit. Mr. Astro starts with "Namaste" and you start with "What Rubbish....". Forget for a moment what Mr. Astro might have written. Vivek From: rrohit_123 Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 13:38:08 -0700Re: Re: Past life predictions …..No big deal ...topic to ponder on … What rubbish is this Mr. Astro?? Can you tell me tell me single sentence out of all the 25 lines you have written which is related to the topic I have posted here? I have seen your previous posts also, you reply to the posts with the rubbish which is not related to the topic which was going on. If you want to post your philosophy why don’t you start a new thread and invite others to comment on it. Just because you want others to notice you and make you feel important why rattle a philosophy which kills the good topic started by others. My topic was about past life predictions given by even road side tellers and common people including beggars and wanted members to think about it how it’s possible and give their views. Can you tell me whether you have read my post at least, if yes, have you got it what it’s saying? I have asked to ponder on this topic, not on your life’s philosophy. Please post a new message next time you want to say something good to the forum. Thankssvc_astro <svc_astro > wrote: >>>All comments are welcome.Namaste. Thank you for giving an opportunity to ponder & express. Future is food for the mind. Past is akin to looking in the rear view mirror and driving. Can you drive by looking at the rear view mirror?! A true yogi is changing his bhagya (destiny) every single breath (kshana). This is how sadhana is: the more you receive, the more you want to do sadhana. Fruit is given as the process takes place. You constantly want to make a greater & greater effort. But let me tell you , it doesnt become easier. If you think the more sadhana you do, the easier it will get you are wrong. The more sadhana you do, the more difficult it gets..but it is more exciting. Do not worry about past or future in the form of nadi readings. Live in the moment, the present. In this moment is the possibility of attaining THAT..Even though Self is fully manifest within us, it only thru awakening of Shakti and the process of sadhana that it is revealed. Guru is trikalagyaani. It is your destiny that brings you to the Guru to receive shaktipat, but then you must make the right self effort to cultivate golden virtues. Without action there can be no jnaana. The crux of the matter is that nothing comes easily. You have to work for it; you have to put the effort. It is as simple as that. Nadi reading or not, past or future, whatever, it does not matter..You must make the effort!! Best Wishes. , ~Rohit~ <rrohit_123 wrote:>> Dear Members,> > > There seems to be general feeling of thrill in this forum with regards to 100 percent accuracy of past predictions given by naadi readers. This past accuracy induces the trust in seekers mind towards the naadi reader. I would like to mention that I am not at all amazed by this past predictions thing. I have through this before accidently many times, but I am not sure of the technicalities behind this accuracy.> > > There have been many stories told my mom, how some person came for begging in the afternoon while I was away in school and how he said many thing about our home ( your husband working here, how many sons, daughters, son now in school, including some of the things like yesterday you fought, your son came top in exams etc ). But these sadhus or sometimes plain beggars can't tell anything about future. Sometimes they even fool the people into giving them cash. My mom got fooled once. They even know how much amount is there right now in the house. I once encountered this kind of person in my college times and drove him away.> > > > My recent experience: I had a visit to Hyderabad to my relatives place around 1 yr back. We were sitting in veranda when such person came across for begging. He was dressed like half sadhu, He started rattling same thing, all accurate to my aunt and mom. I was surprised but we have seen this before and it was not big deal. We gave him 2 rupees and ask him to please go next door bluntly. We went away silently. > > > In my school days, when I visited my village, I remember vaguely people used to come with bulls ( who were decorated and colored ) on Makar Sankranthi , stand in front of house and used to tell some predictions like this before taking dhaan ( Usually raw rice , pulses etc). If I remember correctly bull so some kind of dance by waving their heads and their language of poetic. It was fun for us. Of course those predictions were accurate with regards to past. > > > I am not sure what's behind all this, may be experienced members can throw light on this. All naadi readers I have visited told only about my name, parent's name, date of birth etc. However above people went great lengths into the past. 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Guest guest Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 Please read the entire post before commenting on it. It’s not a question of views not in sync with views of others posted in this forum. It’s a question of making mockery of views posted and poking fun at them. You are doing the same thing as Mr. Astro is doing it. You are advertising yourself here with your website. Can you tell me what knowledge you shared here till now? It’s easy to comment on others, why don’t you contribute something Mr. Rishi. Regards, Rohit www. .com Rishi Prasad <rishiprasad wrote: namaskar,i would tend to agree with svc. even if my views are not in sync with that of others, it is hardly appropriate to go on the offensive as rohit has done and get abusive in the manner that he has done. vivek also seems to hold the same point of view. i would really request everyone to not use this platform-to which i am absolutely new-as a means of showing their online muscle or aggression. lets just talk astrology and try and learn from each other.i am a professional astrologer based in delhi. but i am not looking for work through this group. i would simply be happy to share the little knowledge i have with anyone who might be helped by it.regards,rishiwww.rishiprasad.com 2008/5/9 svc_astro <svc_astro >: Namaste. All topics are related to TRUTH. EKAM SATYA. Is it not?! Seems like I irritated you and you felt bad about the posting that was made. I am sorry if you felt that way. Please contemplate more and try to understand the post that was made rather than take things personally. You seem to be an emotional person who jumps at everything.MODERATOR: Is this kind of outburst/abuse allowed on this group? I am hoping folks like this person are more courteous in their exchange of words & use of language.Best Wishes. , ~Rohit~ <rrohit_123 wrote:>> What rubbish is this Mr. Astro??> Can you tell me tell me single sentence out of all the 25 lines you have written which is related to the topic I have posted here? I have seen your previous posts also, you reply to the posts with the rubbish which is not related to the topic which was going on. If you want to post your philosophy why don't you start a new thread and invite others to comment on it. Just because you want others to notice you and make you feel important why rattle a philosophy which kills the good topic started by others.> > My topic was about past life predictions given by even road side tellers and common people including beggars and wanted members to think about it how it's possible and give their views. Can you tell me whether you have read my post at least, if yes, have you got it what it's saying? I have asked to ponder on this topic, not on your life's philosophy. Please post a new message next time you want to say something good to the forum. > Thanks> > > svc_astro <svc_astro wrote: >>>All comments are welcome.> > Namaste. Thank you for giving an opportunity to ponder & express. > Future is food for the mind. Past is akin to looking in the rear > view mirror and driving. Can you drive by looking at the rear view > mirror?! A true yogi is changing his bhagya (destiny) every single > breath (kshana). This is how sadhana is: the more you receive, the > more you want to do sadhana. Fruit is given as the process takes > place. You constantly want to make a greater & greater effort. But > let me tell you , it doesnt become easier. If you think the more > sadhana you do, the easier it will get you are wrong. The more > sadhana you do, the more difficult it gets..but it is more exciting. > > Do not worry about past or future in the form of nadi readings. Live > in the moment, the present. In this moment is the possibility of > attaining THAT..Even though Self is fully manifest within us, it > only thru awakening of Shakti and the process of sadhana that it is > revealed. Guru is trikalagyaani. It is your destiny that brings you > to the Guru to receive shaktipat, but then you must make the right > self effort to cultivate golden virtues. Without action there can be > no jnaana. The crux of the matter is that nothing comes easily. You > have to work for it; you have to put the effort. It is as simple as > that. Nadi reading or not, past or future, whatever, it does not > matter..You must make the effort!! > > Best Wishes.> > , ~Rohit~ <rrohit_123@> > wrote:> >> > Dear Members,> > > > > > There seems to be general feeling of thrill in this forum with > regards to 100 percent accuracy of past predictions given by naadi > readers. This past accuracy induces the trust in seekers mind > towards the naadi reader. I would like to mention that I am not at > all amazed by this past predictions thing. I have through this > before accidently many times, but I am not sure of the > technicalities behind this accuracy.> > > > > > There have been many stories told my mom, how some person came > for begging in the afternoon while I was away in school and how he > said many thing about our home ( your husband working here, how many > sons, daughters, son now in school, including some of the things > like yesterday you fought, your son came top in exams etc ). But > these sadhus or sometimes plain beggars can't tell anything about > future. Sometimes they even fool the people into giving them cash. > My mom got fooled once. They even know how much amount is there > right now in the house. I once encountered this kind of person in my > college times and drove him away.> > > > > > > > My recent experience: I had a visit to Hyderabad to my relatives > place around 1 yr back. We were sitting in veranda when such person > came across for begging. He was dressed like half sadhu, He started > rattling same thing, all accurate to my aunt and mom. I was > surprised but we have seen this before and it was not big deal. We > gave him 2 rupees and ask him to please go next door bluntly. We > went away silently. > > > > > > In my school days, when I visited my village, I remember vaguely > people used to come with bulls ( who were decorated and colored ) on > Makar Sankranthi , stand in front of house and used to tell some > predictions like this before taking dhaan ( Usually raw rice , > pulses etc). If I remember correctly bull so some kind of dance by > waving their heads and their language of poetic. It was fun for us. > Of course those predictions were accurate with regards to past. > > > > > > I am not sure what's behind all this, may be experienced members > can throw light on this. All naadi readers I have visited told only > about my name, parent's name, date of birth etc. However above > people went great lengths into the past. All comments are welcome.> > > > > > Thanks> > Rohit> > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with > Mobile. Try it now.> >> > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. 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Guest guest Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 Dear Rishi/Vivek, Namaste. Thank you for the concurrence. The problem nowadays is that most folks act as if they have taken the responsibility to change every , every website and that they are the God given gift to mankind. This just shows that their 'I' is established firmly. What they do not realize is that an act of giving, a kind word, a grateful deed, proper use of courteous language will go a long way in burning their karma & building a healthy relationship with the divine. Use of aggressive words is a sign of weakness, insecurity & one of leading a unharmonious life. Coming back to the subject proper viz. " Nadi Astrology " . As per my anubhava nadi shabda has its roots in nas (nerves). Literally nadi means 'nerves'. Connecting it with Nadi Astrology, is is Saturn that rules nadis. Saturn exalts in tula rasi. Tula represents the balance. Saturn is connected with vayu in panchanga. Remember Lagna is twacha (vayu tatva), 2nd bhava is netra (agni tatva), 3rd is karana (ears; akaasha), 4th is nasika (nose; kshiti tatwa) and 5th is jihba (tongue; apo tatva). Saturn is connected with nakshatra. Mangal with vaara. Guru with akasha. Budha (mercury) with karana and Shukra with thithi as per panchanga classification. Let me post some thoughts on jeeva nadi & connection with astrology as I have some time today and am back from temple activities. We said above that Saturn rules nadi. Meaning the connection with vayu element (breath; prana) is apparent. There are 3 prominent nadis viz. ida, pingala and sushumna which are in the sookshma shareera. The svara (breath) either flows through ida or pingala in a jiva. This gives delusion, illusion & error. The whole aim is to balance the breath and allow it to flow through the central nadi system called sushumna. Once the breath begins to flow through the central channel one begins to get guru anubhava and the nada dhvani begins to emanate from antahkarana. Sound is a function of akash tatva. This is the true jeeva nadi. It is through this madhyam that the maharishis communicate to the intended sishya (nadi reader) to give a jeeva nadi reading. We must check up Saturn in both rasi and amsa to see link with jeeva nadi from poorva janma. Jeeva nadi reading is direct communication channel (sushumna breathing) with the uplink (divine). This kind of reading is given to a jeeva who is moving from a state of tamas (ignorance; darkness) to jyoti (light). Again, it is the maharishi who pulls the jeeva to give the reading and is not done so as per the desire of the jeeva. In simpler words in no way do we have any say in anything in this cosmos. We are a reflection of our karma. When the time is right, the karma is exhausted to a certain bandwidth, the guru will reveal to us in the form of jeeva nadi reading or materialising or anyother means for that matter. This means that it is pointless abandon our daily effort in search for the unknown through nadi leaves and nadi readings. Maharishis do not entertain abandonment of karma for momentary gratification of senses through self desired nadi readings. Nadi reading will come to you sitting in your house if it is intended to. This is what I had written (implied) in my previous postings to the group which Mr. Rohit point blank abused me for. I took it that he did not understand a word. I remained increasingly courteous to him. He responded back by being aggressive not only to me but to one and all. I still wish him the all the best with all my heart and pray that God give him the buddhi to be kind to one and all. With that I rest my case and hope that there is increasing courteousness and lesser finger pointing & agressiveness on the group. Let us all thank the moderator/creator of this group for giving us a brilliant platform to discuss. Let us also thank Shri Shashikant Ji for a wonderful book that he has donated to mankind. Let us thank the makers of the website for providing all of us a wonderful medium to get newer research information. Every inch of knowledge that is received from any source must be appreciated and thanked for..That is how it should be. Best Wishes. , " Rishi Prasad " <rishiprasad wrote: > > namaskar, > i would tend to agree with svc. even if my views are not in sync with that > of others, it is hardly appropriate to go on the offensive as rohit has done > and get abusive in the manner that he has done. vivek also seems to hold the > same point of view. i would really request everyone to not use this > platform-to which i am absolutely new-as a means of showing their online > muscle or aggression. lets just talk astrology and try and learn from each > other.i am a professional astrologer based in delhi. but i am not looking > for work through this group. i would simply be happy to share the little > knowledge i have with anyone who might be helped by it. > regards, > rishi > www.rishiprasad.com > > 2008/5/9 svc_astro <svc_astro: > > > Namaste. All topics are related to TRUTH. EKAM SATYA. Is it not?! > > Seems like I irritated you and you felt bad about the posting that > > was made. I am sorry if you felt that way. Please contemplate more > > and try to understand the post that was made rather than take things > > personally. You seem to be an emotional person who jumps at > > everything. > > > > MODERATOR: Is this kind of outburst/abuse allowed on this group? I am > > hoping folks like this person are more courteous in their exchange of > > words & use of language. > > > > Best Wishes. > > > > <% 40>, > > ~Rohit~ <rrohit_123@> wrote: > > > > > > What rubbish is this Mr. Astro?? > > > Can you tell me tell me single sentence out of all the 25 lines > > you have written which is related to the topic I have posted here? I > > have seen your previous posts also, you reply to the posts with the > > rubbish which is not related to the topic which was going on. If you > > want to post your philosophy why don't you start a new thread and > > invite others to comment on it. Just because you want others to > > notice you and make you feel important why rattle a philosophy which > > kills the good topic started by others. > > > > > > My topic was about past life predictions given by even road side > > tellers and common people including beggars and wanted members to > > think about it how it's possible and give their views. Can you tell > > me whether you have read my post at least, if yes, have you got it > > what it's saying? I have asked to ponder on this topic, not on your > > life's philosophy. Please post a new message next time you want to > > say something good to the forum. > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > svc_astro <svc_astro@> wrote: >>>All comments are > > welcome. > > > > > > Namaste. Thank you for giving an opportunity to ponder & express. > > > Future is food for the mind. Past is akin to looking in the rear > > > view mirror and driving. Can you drive by looking at the rear view > > > mirror?! A true yogi is changing his bhagya (destiny) every single > > > breath (kshana). This is how sadhana is: the more you receive, the > > > more you want to do sadhana. Fruit is given as the process takes > > > place. You constantly want to make a greater & greater effort. But > > > let me tell you , it doesnt become easier. If you think the more > > > sadhana you do, the easier it will get you are wrong. The more > > > sadhana you do, the more difficult it gets..but it is more > > exciting. > > > > > > Do not worry about past or future in the form of nadi readings. > > Live > > > in the moment, the present. In this moment is the possibility of > > > attaining THAT..Even though Self is fully manifest within us, it > > > only thru awakening of Shakti and the process of sadhana that it is > > > revealed. Guru is trikalagyaani. It is your destiny that brings you > > > to the Guru to receive shaktipat, but then you must make the right > > > self effort to cultivate golden virtues. Without action there can > > be > > > no jnaana. The crux of the matter is that nothing comes easily. You > > > have to work for it; you have to put the effort. It is as simple as > > > that. Nadi reading or not, past or future, whatever, it does not > > > matter..You must make the effort!! > > > > > > Best Wishes. > > > > > > <% 40>, > > ~Rohit~ <rrohit_123@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > There seems to be general feeling of thrill in this forum with > > > regards to 100 percent accuracy of past predictions given by naadi > > > readers. This past accuracy induces the trust in seekers mind > > > towards the naadi reader. I would like to mention that I am not at > > > all amazed by this past predictions thing. I have through this > > > before accidently many times, but I am not sure of the > > > technicalities behind this accuracy. > > > > > > > > > > > > There have been many stories told my mom, how some person came > > > for begging in the afternoon while I was away in school and how he > > > said many thing about our home ( your husband working here, how > > many > > > sons, daughters, son now in school, including some of the things > > > like yesterday you fought, your son came top in exams etc ). But > > > these sadhus or sometimes plain beggars can't tell anything about > > > future. Sometimes they even fool the people into giving them cash. > > > My mom got fooled once. They even know how much amount is there > > > right now in the house. I once encountered this kind of person in > > my > > > college times and drove him away. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My recent experience: I had a visit to Hyderabad to my relatives > > > place around 1 yr back. We were sitting in veranda when such person > > > came across for begging. He was dressed like half sadhu, He started > > > rattling same thing, all accurate to my aunt and mom. I was > > > surprised but we have seen this before and it was not big deal. We > > > gave him 2 rupees and ask him to please go next door bluntly. We > > > went away silently. > > > > > > > > > > > > In my school days, when I visited my village, I remember vaguely > > > people used to come with bulls ( who were decorated and colored ) > > on > > > Makar Sankranthi , stand in front of house and used to tell some > > > predictions like this before taking dhaan ( Usually raw rice , > > > pulses etc). If I remember correctly bull so some kind of dance by > > > waving their heads and their language of poetic. It was fun for us. > > > Of course those predictions were accurate with regards to past. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not sure what's behind all this, may be experienced members > > > can throw light on this. All naadi readers I have visited told only > > > about my name, parent's name, date of birth etc. However above > > > people went great lengths into the past. All comments are welcome. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Rohit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with > > > Mobile. Try it now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. > > Try it now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Rishi > www.rishiprasad.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 Namaste , Good luck to you all . Dear Astro can you please tell me what was your intenstion when you wrote such a long mail ? , to me, I could not make head or tail out of it . I believe the topic was about " Past Prediction Accurancy " , does your mail has something on it , please be kind to ignorant souls - Please let us know if this was about the same topic . Initially I addmired Sashikant Oak for his Naadi book but I have critical eye , now I realize that he was just documenting what he experienced in Naadi and I think that no research was done on it , was just skin deep . This is my observation about the book and website . I believe I have the right to comment on it . If you know astrology you will realize that it is about satistics and experience in interpreting the statistical data but Naadi is totally mysterious . Some one who doesnt ( normaly ) show you the leaf but keeps uttering some stanza and explain to you, if the leaf he reads is yours why cant they give you the copy or leaf itself ? . The Naadi people claim them selves as "readers" and not astrologers , if yiou know sanskrit or vattazhuthu you can read it yourself . Please be realistic in writing and about others cognitive levels . Do not try to put down some meaning less words thinking that it is philosophy and you will be admired..no never it will happen . Thanks , Aries svc_astro <svc_astro wrote: Dear Rishi/Vivek, Namaste. Thank you for the concurrence. The problem nowadays is that most folks act as if they have taken the responsibility to change every , every website and that they are the God given gift to mankind. This just shows that their 'I' is established firmly. What they do not realize is that an act of giving, a kind word, a grateful deed, proper use of courteous language will go a long way in burning their karma & building a healthy relationship with the divine. Use of aggressive words is a sign of weakness, insecurity & one of leading a unharmonious life. Coming back to the subject proper viz. "Nadi Astrology". As per my anubhava nadi shabda has its roots in nas (nerves). Literally nadi means 'nerves'. Connecting it with Nadi Astrology, is is Saturn that rules nadis. Saturn exalts in tula rasi. Tula represents the balance. Saturn is connected with vayu in panchanga. Remember Lagna is twacha (vayu tatva), 2nd bhava is netra (agni tatva), 3rd is karana (ears; akaasha), 4th is nasika (nose; kshiti tatwa) and 5th is jihba (tongue; apo tatva). Saturn is connected with nakshatra. Mangal with vaara. Guru with akasha. Budha (mercury) with karana and Shukra with thithi as per panchanga classification. Let me post some thoughts on jeeva nadi & connection with astrology as I have some time today and am back from temple activities. We said above that Saturn rules nadi. Meaning the connection with vayu element (breath; prana) is apparent. There are 3 prominent nadis viz. ida, pingala and sushumna which are in the sookshma shareera. The svara (breath) either flows through ida or pingala in a jiva. This gives delusion, illusion & error. The whole aim is to balance the breath and allow it to flow through the central nadi system called sushumna. Once the breath begins to flow through the central channel one begins to get guru anubhava and the nada dhvani begins to emanate from antahkarana. Sound is a function of akash tatva. This is the true jeeva nadi. It is through this madhyam that the maharishis communicate to the intended sishya (nadi reader) to give a jeeva nadi reading. We must check up Saturn in both rasi and amsa to see link with jeeva nadi from poorva janma. Jeeva nadi reading is direct communication channel (sushumna breathing) with the uplink (divine). This kind of reading is given to a jeeva who is moving from a state of tamas (ignorance; darkness) to jyoti (light). Again, it is the maharishi who pulls the jeeva to give the reading and is not done so as per the desire of the jeeva. In simpler words in no way do we have any say in anything in this cosmos. We are a reflection of our karma. When the time is right, the karma is exhausted to a certain bandwidth, the guru will reveal to us in the form of jeeva nadi reading or materialising or anyother means for that matter. This means that it is pointless abandon our daily effort in search for the unknown through nadi leaves and nadi readings. Maharishis do not entertain abandonment of karma for momentary gratification of senses through self desired nadi readings. Nadi reading will come to you sitting in your house if it is intended to. This is what I had written (implied) in my previous postings to the group which Mr. Rohit point blank abused me for. I took it that he did not understand a word. I remained increasingly courteous to him. He responded back by being aggressive not only to me but to one and all. I still wish him the all the best with all my heart and pray that God give him the buddhi to be kind to one and all. With that I rest my case and hope that there is increasing courteousness and lesser finger pointing & agressiveness on the group. Let us all thank the moderator/creator of this group for giving us a brilliant platform to discuss. Let us also thank Shri Shashikant Ji for a wonderful book that he has donated to mankind. Let us thank the makers of the website for providing all of us a wonderful medium to get newer research information. Every inch of knowledge that is received from any source must be appreciated and thanked for..That is how it should be. Best Wishes. , "Rishi Prasad" <rishiprasad wrote:>> namaskar,> i would tend to agree with svc. even if my views are not in sync with that> of others, it is hardly appropriate to go on the offensive as rohit has done> and get abusive in the manner that he has done. vivek also seems to hold the> same point of view. i would really request everyone to not use this> platform-to which i am absolutely new-as a means of showing their online> muscle or aggression. lets just talk astrology and try and learn from each> other.i am a professional astrologer based in delhi. but i am not looking> for work through this group. i would simply be happy to share the little> knowledge i have with anyone who might be helped by it.> regards,> rishi> www.rishiprasad.com> > 2008/5/9 svc_astro <svc_astro:> > > Namaste. All topics are related to TRUTH. EKAM SATYA. Is it not?!> > Seems like I irritated you and you felt bad about the posting that> > was made. I am sorry if you felt that way. Please contemplate more> > and try to understand the post that was made rather than take things> > personally. You seem to be an emotional person who jumps at> > everything.> >> > MODERATOR: Is this kind of outburst/abuse allowed on this group? I am> > hoping folks like this person are more courteous in their exchange of> > words & use of language.> >> > Best Wishes.> >> > <%40>,> > ~Rohit~ <rrohit_123@> wrote:> > >> > > What rubbish is this Mr. Astro??> > > Can you tell me tell me single sentence out of all the 25 lines> > you have written which is related to the topic I have posted here? I> > have seen your previous posts also, you reply to the posts with the> > rubbish which is not related to the topic which was going on. If you> > want to post your philosophy why don't you start a new thread and> > invite others to comment on it. Just because you want others to> > notice you and make you feel important why rattle a philosophy which> > kills the good topic started by others.> > >> > > My topic was about past life predictions given by even road side> > tellers and common people including beggars and wanted members to> > think about it how it's possible and give their views. Can you tell> > me whether you have read my post at least, if yes, have you got it> > what it's saying? I have asked to ponder on this topic, not on your> > life's philosophy. Please post a new message next time you want to> > say something good to the forum.> > > Thanks> > >> > >> > > svc_astro <svc_astro@> wrote: >>>All comments are> > welcome.> > >> > > Namaste. Thank you for giving an opportunity to ponder & express.> > > Future is food for the mind. Past is akin to looking in the rear> > > view mirror and driving. Can you drive by looking at the rear view> > > mirror?! A true yogi is changing his bhagya (destiny) every single> > > breath (kshana). This is how sadhana is: the more you receive, the> > > more you want to do sadhana. Fruit is given as the process takes> > > place. You constantly want to make a greater & greater effort. But> > > let me tell you , it doesnt become easier. If you think the more> > > sadhana you do, the easier it will get you are wrong. The more> > > sadhana you do, the more difficult it gets..but it is more> > exciting.> > >> > > Do not worry about past or future in the form of nadi readings.> > Live> > > in the moment, the present. In this moment is the possibility of> > > attaining THAT..Even though Self is fully manifest within us, it> > > only thru awakening of Shakti and the process of sadhana that it is> > > revealed. Guru is trikalagyaani. It is your destiny that brings you> > > to the Guru to receive shaktipat, but then you must make the right> > > self effort to cultivate golden virtues. Without action there can> > be> > > no jnaana. The crux of the matter is that nothing comes easily. You> > > have to work for it; you have to put the effort. It is as simple as> > > that. Nadi reading or not, past or future, whatever, it does not> > > matter..You must make the effort!!> > >> > > Best Wishes.> > >> > > <%40>,> > ~Rohit~ <rrohit_123@>> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Members,> > > >> > > >> > > > There seems to be general feeling of thrill in this forum with> > > regards to 100 percent accuracy of past predictions given by naadi> > > readers. This past accuracy induces the trust in seekers mind> > > towards the naadi reader. I would like to mention that I am not at> > > all amazed by this past predictions thing. I have through this> > > before accidently many times, but I am not sure of the> > > technicalities behind this accuracy.> > > >> > > >> > > > There have been many stories told my mom, how some person came> > > for begging in the afternoon while I was away in school and how he> > > said many thing about our home ( your husband working here, how> > many> > > sons, daughters, son now in school, including some of the things> > > like yesterday you fought, your son came top in exams etc ). But> > > these sadhus or sometimes plain beggars can't tell anything about> > > future. Sometimes they even fool the people into giving them cash.> > > My mom got fooled once. They even know how much amount is there> > > right now in the house. I once encountered this kind of person in> > my> > > college times and drove him away.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > My recent experience: I had a visit to Hyderabad to my relatives> > > place around 1 yr back. We were sitting in veranda when such person> > > came across for begging. He was dressed like half sadhu, He started> > > rattling same thing, all accurate to my aunt and mom. I was> > > surprised but we have seen this before and it was not big deal. We> > > gave him 2 rupees and ask him to please go next door bluntly. We> > > went away silently.> > > >> > > >> > > > In my school days, when I visited my village, I remember vaguely> > > people used to come with bulls ( who were decorated and colored )> > on> > > Makar Sankranthi , stand in front of house and used to tell some> > > predictions like this before taking dhaan ( Usually raw rice ,> > > pulses etc). If I remember correctly bull so some kind of dance by> > > waving their heads and their language of poetic. It was fun for us.> > > Of course those predictions were accurate with regards to past.> > > >> > > >> > > > I am not sure what's behind all this, may be experienced members> > > can throw light on this. All naadi readers I have visited told only> > > about my name, parent's name, date of birth etc. However above> > > people went great lengths into the past. All comments are welcome.> > > >> > > >> > > > Thanks> > > > Rohit> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with > > > Mobile. Try it now.> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile.> > Try it now.> > >> >> > > >> > > > -- > Rishi> www.rishiprasad.com> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 dear svcji,i absolutely loved what you wrote here.if i have the permission of the group, may i use a part of this on my website too? i would be happy to attach a link to this group and follow whatever protocol the group decides upon. i am not looking to take advantage in any manner. its just such a beautiful piece that i would like the visitors to my site to also benefit from it.regards,rishiwww.rishiprasad.com 2008/5/9 svc_astro <svc_astro: Dear Rishi/Vivek, Namaste. Thank you for the concurrence. The problem nowadays is that most folks act as if they have taken the responsibility to change every , every website and that they are the God given gift to mankind. This just shows that their 'I' is established firmly. What they do not realize is that an act of giving, a kind word, a grateful deed, proper use of courteous language will go a long way in burning their karma & building a healthy relationship with the divine. Use of aggressive words is a sign of weakness, insecurity & one of leading a unharmonious life. Coming back to the subject proper viz. " Nadi Astrology " . As per my anubhava nadi shabda has its roots in nas (nerves). Literally nadi means 'nerves'. Connecting it with Nadi Astrology, is is Saturn that rules nadis. Saturn exalts in tula rasi. Tula represents the balance. Saturn is connected with vayu in panchanga. Remember Lagna is twacha (vayu tatva), 2nd bhava is netra (agni tatva), 3rd is karana (ears; akaasha), 4th is nasika (nose; kshiti tatwa) and 5th is jihba (tongue; apo tatva). Saturn is connected with nakshatra. Mangal with vaara. Guru with akasha. Budha (mercury) with karana and Shukra with thithi as per panchanga classification. Let me post some thoughts on jeeva nadi & connection with astrology as I have some time today and am back from temple activities. We said above that Saturn rules nadi. Meaning the connection with vayu element (breath; prana) is apparent. There are 3 prominent nadis viz. ida, pingala and sushumna which are in the sookshma shareera. The svara (breath) either flows through ida or pingala in a jiva. This gives delusion, illusion & error. The whole aim is to balance the breath and allow it to flow through the central nadi system called sushumna. Once the breath begins to flow through the central channel one begins to get guru anubhava and the nada dhvani begins to emanate from antahkarana. Sound is a function of akash tatva. This is the true jeeva nadi. It is through this madhyam that the maharishis communicate to the intended sishya (nadi reader) to give a jeeva nadi reading. We must check up Saturn in both rasi and amsa to see link with jeeva nadi from poorva janma. Jeeva nadi reading is direct communication channel (sushumna breathing) with the uplink (divine). This kind of reading is given to a jeeva who is moving from a state of tamas (ignorance; darkness) to jyoti (light). Again, it is the maharishi who pulls the jeeva to give the reading and is not done so as per the desire of the jeeva. In simpler words in no way do we have any say in anything in this cosmos. We are a reflection of our karma. When the time is right, the karma is exhausted to a certain bandwidth, the guru will reveal to us in the form of jeeva nadi reading or materialising or anyother means for that matter. This means that it is pointless abandon our daily effort in search for the unknown through nadi leaves and nadi readings. Maharishis do not entertain abandonment of karma for momentary gratification of senses through self desired nadi readings. Nadi reading will come to you sitting in your house if it is intended to. This is what I had written (implied) in my previous postings to the group which Mr. Rohit point blank abused me for. I took it that he did not understand a word. I remained increasingly courteous to him. He responded back by being aggressive not only to me but to one and all. I still wish him the all the best with all my heart and pray that God give him the buddhi to be kind to one and all. With that I rest my case and hope that there is increasing courteousness and lesser finger pointing & agressiveness on the group. Let us all thank the moderator/creator of this group for giving us a brilliant platform to discuss. Let us also thank Shri Shashikant Ji for a wonderful book that he has donated to mankind. Let us thank the makers of the website for providing all of us a wonderful medium to get newer research information. Every inch of knowledge that is received from any source must be appreciated and thanked for..That is how it should be. Best Wishes. , " Rishi Prasad " <rishiprasad wrote: > > namaskar, > i would tend to agree with svc. even if my views are not in sync with that > of others, it is hardly appropriate to go on the offensive as rohit has done > and get abusive in the manner that he has done. vivek also seems to hold the > same point of view. i would really request everyone to not use this > platform-to which i am absolutely new-as a means of showing their online > muscle or aggression. lets just talk astrology and try and learn from each > other.i am a professional astrologer based in delhi. but i am not looking > for work through this group. i would simply be happy to share the little > knowledge i have with anyone who might be helped by it. > regards, > rishi > www.rishiprasad.com > > 2008/5/9 svc_astro <svc_astro: > > > Namaste. All topics are related to TRUTH. EKAM SATYA. Is it not?! > > Seems like I irritated you and you felt bad about the posting that > > was made. I am sorry if you felt that way. Please contemplate more > > and try to understand the post that was made rather than take things > > personally. You seem to be an emotional person who jumps at > > everything. > > > > MODERATOR: Is this kind of outburst/abuse allowed on this group? I am > > hoping folks like this person are more courteous in their exchange of > > words & use of language. > > > > Best Wishes. > > > > <% 40>, > > ~Rohit~ <rrohit_123@> wrote: > > > > > > What rubbish is this Mr. Astro?? > > > Can you tell me tell me single sentence out of all the 25 lines > > you have written which is related to the topic I have posted here? I > > have seen your previous posts also, you reply to the posts with the > > rubbish which is not related to the topic which was going on. If you > > want to post your philosophy why don't you start a new thread and > > invite others to comment on it. Just because you want others to > > notice you and make you feel important why rattle a philosophy which > > kills the good topic started by others. > > > > > > My topic was about past life predictions given by even road side > > tellers and common people including beggars and wanted members to > > think about it how it's possible and give their views. Can you tell > > me whether you have read my post at least, if yes, have you got it > > what it's saying? I have asked to ponder on this topic, not on your > > life's philosophy. Please post a new message next time you want to > > say something good to the forum. > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > svc_astro <svc_astro@> wrote: >>>All comments are > > welcome. > > > > > > Namaste. Thank you for giving an opportunity to ponder & express. > > > Future is food for the mind. Past is akin to looking in the rear > > > view mirror and driving. Can you drive by looking at the rear view > > > mirror?! A true yogi is changing his bhagya (destiny) every single > > > breath (kshana). This is how sadhana is: the more you receive, the > > > more you want to do sadhana. Fruit is given as the process takes > > > place. You constantly want to make a greater & greater effort. But > > > let me tell you , it doesnt become easier. If you think the more > > > sadhana you do, the easier it will get you are wrong. The more > > > sadhana you do, the more difficult it gets..but it is more > > exciting. > > > > > > Do not worry about past or future in the form of nadi readings. > > Live > > > in the moment, the present. In this moment is the possibility of > > > attaining THAT..Even though Self is fully manifest within us, it > > > only thru awakening of Shakti and the process of sadhana that it is > > > revealed. Guru is trikalagyaani. It is your destiny that brings you > > > to the Guru to receive shaktipat, but then you must make the right > > > self effort to cultivate golden virtues. Without action there can > > be > > > no jnaana. The crux of the matter is that nothing comes easily. You > > > have to work for it; you have to put the effort. It is as simple as > > > that. Nadi reading or not, past or future, whatever, it does not > > > matter..You must make the effort!! > > > > > > Best Wishes. > > > > > > <% 40>, > > ~Rohit~ <rrohit_123@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > There seems to be general feeling of thrill in this forum with > > > regards to 100 percent accuracy of past predictions given by naadi > > > readers. This past accuracy induces the trust in seekers mind > > > towards the naadi reader. I would like to mention that I am not at > > > all amazed by this past predictions thing. I have through this > > > before accidently many times, but I am not sure of the > > > technicalities behind this accuracy. > > > > > > > > > > > > There have been many stories told my mom, how some person came > > > for begging in the afternoon while I was away in school and how he > > > said many thing about our home ( your husband working here, how > > many > > > sons, daughters, son now in school, including some of the things > > > like yesterday you fought, your son came top in exams etc ). But > > > these sadhus or sometimes plain beggars can't tell anything about > > > future. Sometimes they even fool the people into giving them cash. > > > My mom got fooled once. They even know how much amount is there > > > right now in the house. I once encountered this kind of person in > > my > > > college times and drove him away. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My recent experience: I had a visit to Hyderabad to my relatives > > > place around 1 yr back. We were sitting in veranda when such person > > > came across for begging. He was dressed like half sadhu, He started > > > rattling same thing, all accurate to my aunt and mom. I was > > > surprised but we have seen this before and it was not big deal. We > > > gave him 2 rupees and ask him to please go next door bluntly. We > > > went away silently. > > > > > > > > > > > > In my school days, when I visited my village, I remember vaguely > > > people used to come with bulls ( who were decorated and colored ) > > on > > > Makar Sankranthi , stand in front of house and used to tell some > > > predictions like this before taking dhaan ( Usually raw rice , > > > pulses etc). If I remember correctly bull so some kind of dance by > > > waving their heads and their language of poetic. It was fun for us. > > > Of course those predictions were accurate with regards to past. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not sure what's behind all this, may be experienced members > > > can throw light on this. All naadi readers I have visited told only > > > about my name, parent's name, date of birth etc. However above > > > people went great lengths into the past. All comments are welcome. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Rohit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with > > > Mobile. Try it now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. > > Try it now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Rishi > www.rishiprasad.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 I agree 100 % with you Rohit .~Rohit~ <rrohit_123 wrote: Please read the entire post before commenting on it. It’s not a question of views not in sync with views of others posted in this forum. It’s a question of making mockery of views posted and poking fun at them. You are doing the same thing as Mr. Astro is doing it. You are advertising yourself here with your website. Can you tell me what knowledge you shared here till now? It’s easy to comment on others, why don’t you contribute something Mr. Rishi. Regards, Rohit www. .com Rishi Prasad <rishiprasad > wrote: namaskar,i would tend to agree with svc. even if my views are not in sync with that of others, it is hardly appropriate to go on the offensive as rohit has done and get abusive in the manner that he has done. vivek also seems to hold the same point of view. i would really request everyone to not use this platform-to which i am absolutely new-as a means of showing their online muscle or aggression. lets just talk astrology and try and learn from each other.i am a professional astrologer based in delhi. but i am not looking for work through this group. i would simply be happy to share the little knowledge i have with anyone who might be helped by it.regards,rishiwww.rishiprasad.com 2008/5/9 svc_astro <svc_astro >: Namaste. All topics are related to TRUTH. EKAM SATYA. Is it not?! Seems like I irritated you and you felt bad about the posting that was made. I am sorry if you felt that way. Please contemplate more and try to understand the post that was made rather than take things personally. You seem to be an emotional person who jumps at everything.MODERATOR: Is this kind of outburst/abuse allowed on this group? I am hoping folks like this person are more courteous in their exchange of words & use of language.Best Wishes. , ~Rohit~ <rrohit_123 wrote:>> What rubbish is this Mr. Astro??> Can you tell me tell me single sentence out of all the 25 lines you have written which is related to the topic I have posted here? I have seen your previous posts also, you reply to the posts with the rubbish which is not related to the topic which was going on. If you want to post your philosophy why don't you start a new thread and invite others to comment on it. Just because you want others to notice you and make you feel important why rattle a philosophy which kills the good topic started by others.> > My topic was about past life predictions given by even road side tellers and common people including beggars and wanted members to think about it how it's possible and give their views. Can you tell me whether you have read my post at least, if yes, have you got it what it's saying? I have asked to ponder on this topic, not on your life's philosophy. Please post a new message next time you want to say something good to the forum. > Thanks> > > svc_astro <svc_astro wrote: >>>All comments are welcome.> > Namaste. Thank you for giving an opportunity to ponder & express. > Future is food for the mind. Past is akin to looking in the rear > view mirror and driving. Can you drive by looking at the rear view > mirror?! A true yogi is changing his bhagya (destiny) every single > breath (kshana). This is how sadhana is: the more you receive, the > more you want to do sadhana. Fruit is given as the process takes > place. You constantly want to make a greater & greater effort. But > let me tell you , it doesnt become easier. If you think the more > sadhana you do, the easier it will get you are wrong. The more > sadhana you do, the more difficult it gets..but it is more exciting. > > Do not worry about past or future in the form of nadi readings. Live > in the moment, the present. In this moment is the possibility of > attaining THAT..Even though Self is fully manifest within us, it > only thru awakening of Shakti and the process of sadhana that it is > revealed. Guru is trikalagyaani. It is your destiny that brings you > to the Guru to receive shaktipat, but then you must make the right > self effort to cultivate golden virtues. Without action there can be > no jnaana. The crux of the matter is that nothing comes easily. You > have to work for it; you have to put the effort. It is as simple as > that. Nadi reading or not, past or future, whatever, it does not > matter..You must make the effort!! > > Best Wishes.> > , ~Rohit~ <rrohit_123@> > wrote:> >> > Dear Members,> > > > > > There seems to be general feeling of thrill in this forum with > regards to 100 percent accuracy of past predictions given by naadi > readers. This past accuracy induces the trust in seekers mind > towards the naadi reader. I would like to mention that I am not at > all amazed by this past predictions thing. I have through this > before accidently many times, but I am not sure of the > technicalities behind this accuracy.> > > > > > There have been many stories told my mom, how some person came > for begging in the afternoon while I was away in school and how he > said many thing about our home ( your husband working here, how many > sons, daughters, son now in school, including some of the things > like yesterday you fought, your son came top in exams etc ). But > these sadhus or sometimes plain beggars can't tell anything about > future. Sometimes they even fool the people into giving them cash. > My mom got fooled once. They even know how much amount is there > right now in the house. I once encountered this kind of person in my > college times and drove him away.> > > > > > > > My recent experience: I had a visit to Hyderabad to my relatives > place around 1 yr back. We were sitting in veranda when such person > came across for begging. He was dressed like half sadhu, He started > rattling same thing, all accurate to my aunt and mom. I was > surprised but we have seen this before and it was not big deal. We > gave him 2 rupees and ask him to please go next door bluntly. We > went away silently. > > > > > > In my school days, when I visited my village, I remember vaguely > people used to come with bulls ( who were decorated and colored ) on > Makar Sankranthi , stand in front of house and used to tell some > predictions like this before taking dhaan ( Usually raw rice , > pulses etc). If I remember correctly bull so some kind of dance by > waving their heads and their language of poetic. It was fun for us. > Of course those predictions were accurate with regards to past. > > > > > > I am not sure what's behind all this, may be experienced members > can throw light on this. All naadi readers I have visited told only > about my name, parent's name, date of birth etc. However above > people went great lengths into the past. All comments are welcome.> > > > > > Thanks> > Rohit> > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with > Mobile. Try it now.> >> > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. 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Guest guest Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 Dear Sir Absolutely true. However, I would request you to calm down and forgive and forget. May be this was the Almighty's way of making you the medium to give knowledge to me. I have found the text written below to be extremely interesting and please don't mind if I write to you directly. Best Regards. Vivek From: svc_astroDate: Fri, 9 May 2008 14:21:27 +0000 Re: Past life predictions …..No big deal ...topic to ponder on … Dear Rishi/Vivek, Namaste. Thank you for the concurrence. The problem nowadays is that most folks act as if they have taken the responsibility to change every , every website and that they are the God given gift to mankind. This just shows that their 'I' is established firmly. What they do not realize is that an act of giving, a kind word, a grateful deed, proper use of courteous language will go a long way in burning their karma & building a healthy relationship with the divine. Use of aggressive words is a sign of weakness, insecurity & one of leading a unharmonious life. Coming back to the subject proper viz. "Nadi Astrology". As per my anubhava nadi shabda has its roots in nas (nerves). Literally nadi means 'nerves'. Connecting it with Nadi Astrology, is is Saturn that rules nadis. Saturn exalts in tula rasi. Tula represents the balance. Saturn is connected with vayu in panchanga. Remember Lagna is twacha (vayu tatva), 2nd bhava is netra (agni tatva), 3rd is karana (ears; akaasha), 4th is nasika (nose; kshiti tatwa) and 5th is jihba (tongue; apo tatva). Saturn is connected with nakshatra. Mangal with vaara. Guru with akasha. Budha (mercury) with karana and Shukra with thithi as per panchanga classification. Let me post some thoughts on jeeva nadi & connection with astrology as I have some time today and am back from temple activities. We said above that Saturn rules nadi. Meaning the connection with vayu element (breath; prana) is apparent. There are 3 prominent nadis viz. ida, pingala and sushumna which are in the sookshma shareera. The svara (breath) either flows through ida or pingala in a jiva. This gives delusion, illusion & error. The whole aim is to balance the breath and allow it to flow through the central nadi system called sushumna. Once the breath begins to flow through the central channel one begins to get guru anubhava and the nada dhvani begins to emanate from antahkarana. Sound is a function of akash tatva. This is the true jeeva nadi. It is through this madhyam that the maharishis communicate to the intended sishya (nadi reader) to give a jeeva nadi reading. We must check up Saturn in both rasi and amsa to see link with jeeva nadi from poorva janma. Jeeva nadi reading is direct communication channel (sushumna breathing) with the uplink (divine). This kind of reading is given to a jeeva who is moving from a state of tamas (ignorance; darkness) to jyoti (light). Again, it is the maharishi who pulls the jeeva to give the reading and is not done so as per the desire of the jeeva. In simpler words in no way do we have any say in anything in this cosmos. We are a reflection of our karma. When the time is right, the karma is exhausted to a certain bandwidth, the guru will reveal to us in the form of jeeva nadi reading or materialising or anyother means for that matter. This means that it is pointless abandon our daily effort in search for the unknown through nadi leaves and nadi readings. Maharishis do not entertain abandonment of karma for momentary gratification of senses through self desired nadi readings. Nadi reading will come to you sitting in your house if it is intended to. This is what I had written (implied) in my previous postings to the group which Mr. Rohit point blank abused me for. I took it that he did not understand a word. I remained increasingly courteous to him. He responded back by being aggressive not only to me but to one and all. I still wish him the all the best with all my heart and pray that God give him the buddhi to be kind to one and all. With that I rest my case and hope that there is increasing courteousness and lesser finger pointing & agressiveness on the group. Let us all thank the moderator/creator of this group for giving us a brilliant platform to discuss. Let us also thank Shri Shashikant Ji for a wonderful book that he has donated to mankind. Let us thank the makers of the website for providing all of us a wonderful medium to get newer research information. Every inch of knowledge that is received from any source must be appreciated and thanked for..That is how it should be. Best Wishes. , "Rishi Prasad" <rishiprasad wrote:>> namaskar,> i would tend to agree with svc. even if my views are not in sync with that> of others, it is hardly appropriate to go on the offensive as rohit has done> and get abusive in the manner that he has done. vivek also seems to hold the> same point of view. i would really request everyone to not use this> platform-to which i am absolutely new-as a means of showing their online> muscle or aggression. lets just talk astrology and try and learn from each> other.i am a professional astrologer based in delhi. but i am not looking> for work through this group. i would simply be happy to share the little> knowledge i have with anyone who might be helped by it.> regards,> rishi> www.rishiprasad.com> > 2008/5/9 svc_astro <svc_astro:> > > Namaste. All topics are related to TRUTH. EKAM SATYA. Is it not?!> > Seems like I irritated you and you felt bad about the posting that> > was made. I am sorry if you felt that way. Please contemplate more> > and try to understand the post that was made rather than take things> > personally. You seem to be an emotional person who jumps at> > everything.> >> > MODERATOR: Is this kind of outburst/abuse allowed on this group? I am> > hoping folks like this person are more courteous in their exchange of> > words & use of language.> >> > Best Wishes.> >> > <%40>,> > ~Rohit~ <rrohit_123@> wrote:> > >> > > What rubbish is this Mr. Astro??> > > Can you tell me tell me single sentence out of all the 25 lines> > you have written which is related to the topic I have posted here? I> > have seen your previous posts also, you reply to the posts with the> > rubbish which is not related to the topic which was going on. If you> > want to post your philosophy why don't you start a new thread and> > invite others to comment on it. Just because you want others to> > notice you and make you feel important why rattle a philosophy which> > kills the good topic started by others.> > >> > > My topic was about past life predictions given by even road side> > tellers and common people including beggars and wanted members to> > think about it how it's possible and give their views. Can you tell> > me whether you have read my post at least, if yes, have you got it> > what it's saying? I have asked to ponder on this topic, not on your> > life's philosophy. Please post a new message next time you want to> > say something good to the forum.> > > Thanks> > >> > >> > > svc_astro <svc_astro@> wrote: >>>All comments are> > welcome.> > >> > > Namaste. Thank you for giving an opportunity to ponder & express.> > > Future is food for the mind. Past is akin to looking in the rear> > > view mirror and driving. Can you drive by looking at the rear view> > > mirror?! A true yogi is changing his bhagya (destiny) every single> > > breath (kshana). This is how sadhana is: the more you receive, the> > > more you want to do sadhana. Fruit is given as the process takes> > > place. You constantly want to make a greater & greater effort. But> > > let me tell you , it doesnt become easier. If you think the more> > > sadhana you do, the easier it will get you are wrong. The more> > > sadhana you do, the more difficult it gets..but it is more> > exciting.> > >> > > Do not worry about past or future in the form of nadi readings.> > Live> > > in the moment, the present. In this moment is the possibility of> > > attaining THAT..Even though Self is fully manifest within us, it> > > only thru awakening of Shakti and the process of sadhana that it is> > > revealed. Guru is trikalagyaani. It is your destiny that brings you> > > to the Guru to receive shaktipat, but then you must make the right> > > self effort to cultivate golden virtues. Without action there can> > be> > > no jnaana. The crux of the matter is that nothing comes easily. You> > > have to work for it; you have to put the effort. It is as simple as> > > that. Nadi reading or not, past or future, whatever, it does not> > > matter..You must make the effort!!> > >> > > Best Wishes.> > >> > > <%40>,> > ~Rohit~ <rrohit_123@>> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Members,> > > >> > > >> > > > There seems to be general feeling of thrill in this forum with> > > regards to 100 percent accuracy of past predictions given by naadi> > > readers. This past accuracy induces the trust in seekers mind> > > towards the naadi reader. I would like to mention that I am not at> > > all amazed by this past predictions thing. I have through this> > > before accidently many times, but I am not sure of the> > > technicalities behind this accuracy.> > > >> > > >> > > > There have been many stories told my mom, how some person came> > > for begging in the afternoon while I was away in school and how he> > > said many thing about our home ( your husband working here, how> > many> > > sons, daughters, son now in school, including some of the things> > > like yesterday you fought, your son came top in exams etc ). But> > > these sadhus or sometimes plain beggars can't tell anything about> > > future. Sometimes they even fool the people into giving them cash.> > > My mom got fooled once. They even know how much amount is there> > > right now in the house. I once encountered this kind of person in> > my> > > college times and drove him away.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > My recent experience: I had a visit to Hyderabad to my relatives> > > place around 1 yr back. We were sitting in veranda when such person> > > came across for begging. He was dressed like half sadhu, He started> > > rattling same thing, all accurate to my aunt and mom. I was> > > surprised but we have seen this before and it was not big deal. We> > > gave him 2 rupees and ask him to please go next door bluntly. We> > > went away silently.> > > >> > > >> > > > In my school days, when I visited my village, I remember vaguely> > > people used to come with bulls ( who were decorated and colored )> > on> > > Makar Sankranthi , stand in front of house and used to tell some> > > predictions like this before taking dhaan ( Usually raw rice ,> > > pulses etc). If I remember correctly bull so some kind of dance by> > > waving their heads and their language of poetic. It was fun for us.> > > Of course those predictions were accurate with regards to past.> > > >> > > >> > > > I am not sure what's behind all this, may be experienced members> > > can throw light on this. All naadi readers I have visited told only> > > about my name, parent's name, date of birth etc. However above> > > people went great lengths into the past. All comments are welcome.> > > >> > > >> > > > Thanks> > > > Rohit> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with > > > Mobile. Try it now.> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile.> > Try it now.> > >> >> > > >> > > > -- > Rishi> www.rishiprasad.com> Skydrive - Get 5GB online space for FREE!. Store and share music, photos and documents online with ease. Try it now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 viveks maturity is so refreshing to see. the sign of a great man is not he who can shout down all others but he who after the shouting is done has the courage to befriend his adversary. more power to you vivek. now lets all grow together in knowledge. rishi2008/5/10 Vivek Khurana <vivekkhurana: Dear Sir Absolutely true. However, I would request you to calm down and forgive and forget. May be this was the Almighty's way of making you the medium to give knowledge to me. I have found the text written below to be extremely interesting and please don't mind if I write to you directly. Best Regards. Vivek From: svc_astroDate: Fri, 9 May 2008 14:21:27 +0000 Re: Past life predictions …..No big deal ...topic to ponder on … Dear Rishi/Vivek, Namaste. Thank you for the concurrence. The problem nowadays is that most folks act as if they have taken the responsibility to change every , every website and that they are the God given gift to mankind. This just shows that their 'I' is established firmly. What they do not realize is that an act of giving, a kind word, a grateful deed, proper use of courteous language will go a long way in burning their karma & building a healthy relationship with the divine. Use of aggressive words is a sign of weakness, insecurity & one of leading a unharmonious life. Coming back to the subject proper viz. " Nadi Astrology " . As per my anubhava nadi shabda has its roots in nas (nerves). Literally nadi means 'nerves'. Connecting it with Nadi Astrology, is is Saturn that rules nadis. Saturn exalts in tula rasi. Tula represents the balance. Saturn is connected with vayu in panchanga. Remember Lagna is twacha (vayu tatva), 2nd bhava is netra (agni tatva), 3rd is karana (ears; akaasha), 4th is nasika (nose; kshiti tatwa) and 5th is jihba (tongue; apo tatva). Saturn is connected with nakshatra. Mangal with vaara. Guru with akasha. Budha (mercury) with karana and Shukra with thithi as per panchanga classification. Let me post some thoughts on jeeva nadi & connection with astrology as I have some time today and am back from temple activities. We said above that Saturn rules nadi. Meaning the connection with vayu element (breath; prana) is apparent. There are 3 prominent nadis viz. ida, pingala and sushumna which are in the sookshma shareera. The svara (breath) either flows through ida or pingala in a jiva. This gives delusion, illusion & error. The whole aim is to balance the breath and allow it to flow through the central nadi system called sushumna. Once the breath begins to flow through the central channel one begins to get guru anubhava and the nada dhvani begins to emanate from antahkarana. Sound is a function of akash tatva. This is the true jeeva nadi. It is through this madhyam that the maharishis communicate to the intended sishya (nadi reader) to give a jeeva nadi reading. We must check up Saturn in both rasi and amsa to see link with jeeva nadi from poorva janma. Jeeva nadi reading is direct communication channel (sushumna breathing) with the uplink (divine). This kind of reading is given to a jeeva who is moving from a state of tamas (ignorance; darkness) to jyoti (light). Again, it is the maharishi who pulls the jeeva to give the reading and is not done so as per the desire of the jeeva. In simpler words in no way do we have any say in anything in this cosmos. We are a reflection of our karma. When the time is right, the karma is exhausted to a certain bandwidth, the guru will reveal to us in the form of jeeva nadi reading or materialising or anyother means for that matter. This means that it is pointless abandon our daily effort in search for the unknown through nadi leaves and nadi readings. Maharishis do not entertain abandonment of karma for momentary gratification of senses through self desired nadi readings. Nadi reading will come to you sitting in your house if it is intended to. This is what I had written (implied) in my previous postings to the group which Mr. Rohit point blank abused me for. I took it that he did not understand a word. I remained increasingly courteous to him. He responded back by being aggressive not only to me but to one and all. I still wish him the all the best with all my heart and pray that God give him the buddhi to be kind to one and all. With that I rest my case and hope that there is increasing courteousness and lesser finger pointing & agressiveness on the group. Let us all thank the moderator/creator of this group for giving us a brilliant platform to discuss. Let us also thank Shri Shashikant Ji for a wonderful book that he has donated to mankind. Let us thank the makers of the website for providing all of us a wonderful medium to get newer research information. Every inch of knowledge that is received from any source must be appreciated and thanked for..That is how it should be. Best Wishes. , " Rishi Prasad " <rishiprasad wrote: >> namaskar,> i would tend to agree with svc. even if my views are not in sync with that> of others, it is hardly appropriate to go on the offensive as rohit has done> and get abusive in the manner that he has done. vivek also seems to hold the> same point of view. i would really request everyone to not use this> platform-to which i am absolutely new-as a means of showing their online> muscle or aggression. lets just talk astrology and try and learn from each> other.i am a professional astrologer based in delhi. but i am not looking> for work through this group. i would simply be happy to share the little> knowledge i have with anyone who might be helped by it. > regards,> rishi> www.rishiprasad.com> > 2008/5/9 svc_astro <svc_astro:> > > Namaste. All topics are related to TRUTH. EKAM SATYA. Is it not?!> > Seems like I irritated you and you felt bad about the posting that> > was made. I am sorry if you felt that way. Please contemplate more> > and try to understand the post that was made rather than take things> > personally. You seem to be an emotional person who jumps at> > everything.> >> > MODERATOR: Is this kind of outburst/abuse allowed on this group? I am> > hoping folks like this person are more courteous in their exchange of> > words & use of language.> >> > Best Wishes.> >> > <% 40>,> > ~Rohit~ <rrohit_123@> wrote:> > >> > > What rubbish is this Mr. Astro??> > > Can you tell me tell me single sentence out of all the 25 lines > > you have written which is related to the topic I have posted here? I> > have seen your previous posts also, you reply to the posts with the> > rubbish which is not related to the topic which was going on. If you> > want to post your philosophy why don't you start a new thread and> > invite others to comment on it. Just because you want others to> > notice you and make you feel important why rattle a philosophy which> > kills the good topic started by others.> > >> > > My topic was about past life predictions given by even road side> > tellers and common people including beggars and wanted members to > > think about it how it's possible and give their views. Can you tell> > me whether you have read my post at least, if yes, have you got it> > what it's saying? I have asked to ponder on this topic, not on your> > life's philosophy. Please post a new message next time you want to> > say something good to the forum.> > > Thanks> > >> > >> > > svc_astro <svc_astro@> wrote: >>>All comments are > > welcome.> > >> > > Namaste. Thank you for giving an opportunity to ponder & express.> > > Future is food for the mind. Past is akin to looking in the rear> > > view mirror and driving. Can you drive by looking at the rear view> > > mirror?! A true yogi is changing his bhagya (destiny) every single> > > breath (kshana). This is how sadhana is: the more you receive, the> > > more you want to do sadhana. Fruit is given as the process takes> > > place. You constantly want to make a greater & greater effort. But> > > let me tell you , it doesnt become easier. If you think the more> > > sadhana you do, the easier it will get you are wrong. The more > > > sadhana you do, the more difficult it gets..but it is more> > exciting.> > >> > > Do not worry about past or future in the form of nadi readings.> > Live> > > in the moment, the present. In this moment is the possibility of> > > attaining THAT..Even though Self is fully manifest within us, it> > > only thru awakening of Shakti and the process of sadhana that it is> > > revealed. Guru is trikalagyaani. It is your destiny that brings you> > > to the Guru to receive shaktipat, but then you must make the right> > > self effort to cultivate golden virtues. Without action there can> > be> > > no jnaana. The crux of the matter is that nothing comes easily. You> > > have to work for it; you have to put the effort. It is as simple as> > > that. Nadi reading or not, past or future, whatever, it does not> > > matter..You must make the effort!! > > >> > > Best Wishes.> > >> > > <%40>, > > ~Rohit~ <rrohit_123@>> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Members,> > > >> > > >> > > > There seems to be general feeling of thrill in this forum with> > > regards to 100 percent accuracy of past predictions given by naadi> > > readers. This past accuracy induces the trust in seekers mind> > > towards the naadi reader. I would like to mention that I am not at> > > all amazed by this past predictions thing. I have through this> > > before accidently many times, but I am not sure of the> > > technicalities behind this accuracy.> > > > > > > >> > > > There have been many stories told my mom, how some person came> > > for begging in the afternoon while I was away in school and how he> > > said many thing about our home ( your husband working here, how > > many> > > sons, daughters, son now in school, including some of the things> > > like yesterday you fought, your son came top in exams etc ). But> > > these sadhus or sometimes plain beggars can't tell anything about> > > future. Sometimes they even fool the people into giving them cash.> > > My mom got fooled once. They even know how much amount is there> > > right now in the house. I once encountered this kind of person in> > my> > > college times and drove him away.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > My recent experience: I had a visit to Hyderabad to my relatives> > > place around 1 yr back. We were sitting in veranda when such person> > > came across for begging. He was dressed like half sadhu, He started> > > rattling same thing, all accurate to my aunt and mom. I was > > > surprised but we have seen this before and it was not big deal. We> > > gave him 2 rupees and ask him to please go next door bluntly. We> > > went away silently.> > > > > > > >> > > > In my school days, when I visited my village, I remember vaguely> > > people used to come with bulls ( who were decorated and colored )> > on> > > Makar Sankranthi , stand in front of house and used to tell some> > > predictions like this before taking dhaan ( Usually raw rice ,> > > pulses etc). If I remember correctly bull so some kind of dance by> > > waving their heads and their language of poetic. It was fun for us.> > > Of course those predictions were accurate with regards to past.> > > >> > > >> > > > I am not sure what's behind all this, may be experienced members> > > can throw light on this. All naadi readers I have visited told only> > > about my name, parent's name, date of birth etc. However above> > > people went great lengths into the past. All comments are welcome.> > > >> > > >> > > > Thanks> > > > Rohit> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with > > > Mobile. Try it now.> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile.> > Try it now.> > >> >> > > >> > > > -- > Rishi > www.rishiprasad.com> Skydrive - Get 5GB online space for FREE!. Store and share music, photos and documents online with ease. Try it now! -- Rishiwww.rishiprasad.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 From Astro's mail "Literally nadi means 'nerves'." - I was thinking Naadi means to "seek" ?? . dear matued persons are we interpreting this correct ?? ..please read and think before you guys congratulate each other . Rishi Prasad <rishiprasad wrote: viveks maturity is so refreshing to see. the sign of a great man is not he who can shout down all others but he who after the shouting is done has the courage to befriend his adversary. more power to you vivek. now lets all grow together in knowledge.rishi 2008/5/10 Vivek Khurana <vivekkhurana (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>: Dear Sir Absolutely true. However, I would request you to calm down and forgive and forget. May be this was the Almighty's way of making you the medium to give knowledge to me. I have found the text written below to be extremely interesting and please don't mind if I write to you directly. Best Regards. Vivek From: svc_astro Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 14:21:27 +0000 Re: Past life predictions …..No big deal ...topic to ponder on … Dear Rishi/Vivek, Namaste. Thank you for the concurrence. The problem nowadays is that most folks act as if they have taken the responsibility to change every , every website and that they are the God given gift to mankind. This just shows that their 'I' is established firmly. What they do not realize is that an act of giving, a kind word, a grateful deed, proper use of courteous language will go a long way in burning their karma & building a healthy relationship with the divine. Use of aggressive words is a sign of weakness, insecurity & one of leading a unharmonious life. Coming back to the subject proper viz. "Nadi Astrology". As per my anubhava nadi shabda has its roots in nas (nerves). Literally nadi means 'nerves'. Connecting it with Nadi Astrology, is is Saturn that rules nadis. Saturn exalts in tula rasi. Tula represents the balance. Saturn is connected with vayu in panchanga. Remember Lagna is twacha (vayu tatva), 2nd bhava is netra (agni tatva), 3rd is karana (ears; akaasha), 4th is nasika (nose; kshiti tatwa) and 5th is jihba (tongue; apo tatva). Saturn is connected with nakshatra. Mangal with vaara. Guru with akasha. Budha (mercury) with karana and Shukra with thithi as per panchanga classification. Let me post some thoughts on jeeva nadi & connection with astrology as I have some time today and am back from temple activities. We said above that Saturn rules nadi. Meaning the connection with vayu element (breath; prana) is apparent. There are 3 prominent nadis viz. ida, pingala and sushumna which are in the sookshma shareera. The svara (breath) either flows through ida or pingala in a jiva. This gives delusion, illusion & error. The whole aim is to balance the breath and allow it to flow through the central nadi system called sushumna. Once the breath begins to flow through the central channel one begins to get guru anubhava and the nada dhvani begins to emanate from antahkarana. Sound is a function of akash tatva. This is the true jeeva nadi. It is through this madhyam that the maharishis communicate to the intended sishya (nadi reader) to give a jeeva nadi reading. We must check up Saturn in both rasi and amsa to see link with jeeva nadi from poorva janma. Jeeva nadi reading is direct communication channel (sushumna breathing) with the uplink (divine). This kind of reading is given to a jeeva who is moving from a state of tamas (ignorance; darkness) to jyoti (light). Again, it is the maharishi who pulls the jeeva to give the reading and is not done so as per the desire of the jeeva. In simpler words in no way do we have any say in anything in this cosmos. We are a reflection of our karma. When the time is right, the karma is exhausted to a certain bandwidth, the guru will reveal to us in the form of jeeva nadi reading or materialising or anyother means for that matter. This means that it is pointless abandon our daily effort in search for the unknown through nadi leaves and nadi readings. Maharishis do not entertain abandonment of karma for momentary gratification of senses through self desired nadi readings. Nadi reading will come to you sitting in your house if it is intended to. This is what I had written (implied) in my previous postings to the group which Mr. Rohit point blank abused me for. I took it that he did not understand a word. I remained increasingly courteous to him. He responded back by being aggressive not only to me but to one and all. I still wish him the all the best with all my heart and pray that God give him the buddhi to be kind to one and all. With that I rest my case and hope that there is increasing courteousness and lesser finger pointing & agressiveness on the group. Let us all thank the moderator/creator of this group for giving us a brilliant platform to discuss. Let us also thank Shri Shashikant Ji for a wonderful book that he has donated to mankind. Let us thank the makers of the website for providing all of us a wonderful medium to get newer research information. Every inch of knowledge that is received from any source must be appreciated and thanked for..That is how it should be. Best Wishes. , "Rishi Prasad" <rishiprasad wrote:>> namaskar,> i would tend to agree with svc. even if my views are not in sync with that> of others, it is hardly appropriate to go on the offensive as rohit has done> and get abusive in the manner that he has done. vivek also seems to hold the> same point of view. i would really request everyone to not use this> platform-to which i am absolutely new-as a means of showing their online> muscle or aggression. lets just talk astrology and try and learn from each> other.i am a professional astrologer based in delhi. but i am not looking> for work through this group. i would simply be happy to share the little> knowledge i have with anyone who might be helped by it.> regards,> rishi> www.rishiprasad.com> > 2008/5/9 svc_astro <svc_astro:> > > Namaste. All topics are related to TRUTH. EKAM SATYA. Is it not?!> > Seems like I irritated you and you felt bad about the posting that> > was made. I am sorry if you felt that way. Please contemplate more> > and try to understand the post that was made rather than take things> > personally. You seem to be an emotional person who jumps at> > everything.> >> > MODERATOR: Is this kind of outburst/abuse allowed on this group? I am> > hoping folks like this person are more courteous in their exchange of> > words & use of language.> >> > Best Wishes.> >> > <%40>,> > ~Rohit~ <rrohit_123@> wrote:> > >> > > What rubbish is this Mr. Astro??> > > Can you tell me tell me single sentence out of all the 25 lines> > you have written which is related to the topic I have posted here? I> > have seen your previous posts also, you reply to the posts with the> > rubbish which is not related to the topic which was going on. If you> > want to post your philosophy why don't you start a new thread and> > invite others to comment on it. Just because you want others to> > notice you and make you feel important why rattle a philosophy which> > kills the good topic started by others.> > >> > > My topic was about past life predictions given by even road side> > tellers and common people including beggars and wanted members to> > think about it how it's possible and give their views. Can you tell> > me whether you have read my post at least, if yes, have you got it> > what it's saying? I have asked to ponder on this topic, not on your> > life's philosophy. Please post a new message next time you want to> > say something good to the forum.> > > Thanks> > >> > >> > > svc_astro <svc_astro@> wrote: >>>All comments are> > welcome.> > >> > > Namaste. Thank you for giving an opportunity to ponder & express.> > > Future is food for the mind. Past is akin to looking in the rear> > > view mirror and driving. Can you drive by looking at the rear view> > > mirror?! A true yogi is changing his bhagya (destiny) every single> > > breath (kshana). This is how sadhana is: the more you receive, the> > > more you want to do sadhana. Fruit is given as the process takes> > > place. You constantly want to make a greater & greater effort. But> > > let me tell you , it doesnt become easier. If you think the more> > > sadhana you do, the easier it will get you are wrong. The more> > > sadhana you do, the more difficult it gets..but it is more> > exciting.> > >> > > Do not worry about past or future in the form of nadi readings.> > Live> > > in the moment, the present. In this moment is the possibility of> > > attaining THAT..Even though Self is fully manifest within us, it> > > only thru awakening of Shakti and the process of sadhana that it is> > > revealed. Guru is trikalagyaani. It is your destiny that brings you> > > to the Guru to receive shaktipat, but then you must make the right> > > self effort to cultivate golden virtues. Without action there can> > be> > > no jnaana. The crux of the matter is that nothing comes easily. You> > > have to work for it; you have to put the effort. It is as simple as> > > that. Nadi reading or not, past or future, whatever, it does not> > > matter..You must make the effort!!> > >> > > Best Wishes.> > >> > > <%40>,> > ~Rohit~ <rrohit_123@>> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Members,> > > >> > > >> > > > There seems to be general feeling of thrill in this forum with> > > regards to 100 percent accuracy of past predictions given by naadi> > > readers. This past accuracy induces the trust in seekers mind> > > towards the naadi reader. I would like to mention that I am not at> > > all amazed by this past predictions thing. I have through this> > > before accidently many times, but I am not sure of the> > > technicalities behind this accuracy.> > > >> > > >> > > > There have been many stories told my mom, how some person came> > > for begging in the afternoon while I was away in school and how he> > > said many thing about our home ( your husband working here, how> > many> > > sons, daughters, son now in school, including some of the things> > > like yesterday you fought, your son came top in exams etc ). But> > > these sadhus or sometimes plain beggars can't tell anything about> > > future. Sometimes they even fool the people into giving them cash.> > > My mom got fooled once. They even know how much amount is there> > > right now in the house. I once encountered this kind of person in> > my> > > college times and drove him away.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > My recent experience: I had a visit to Hyderabad to my relatives> > > place around 1 yr back. We were sitting in veranda when such person> > > came across for begging. He was dressed like half sadhu, He started> > > rattling same thing, all accurate to my aunt and mom. I was> > > surprised but we have seen this before and it was not big deal. We> > > gave him 2 rupees and ask him to please go next door bluntly. We> > > went away silently.> > > >> > > >> > > > In my school days, when I visited my village, I remember vaguely> > > people used to come with bulls ( who were decorated and colored )> > on> > > Makar Sankranthi , stand in front of house and used to tell some> > > predictions like this before taking dhaan ( Usually raw rice ,> > > pulses etc). If I remember correctly bull so some kind of dance by> > > waving their heads and their language of poetic. It was fun for us.> > > Of course those predictions were accurate with regards to past.> > > >> > > >> > > > I am not sure what's behind all this, may be experienced members> > > can throw light on this. All naadi readers I have visited told only> > > about my name, parent's name, date of birth etc. However above> > > people went great lengths into the past. All comments are welcome.> > > >> > > >> > > > Thanks> > > > Rohit> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with > > > Mobile. Try it now.> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile.> > Try it now.> > >> >> > > >> > > > -- > Rishi> www.rishiprasad.com> Skydrive - Get 5GB online space for FREE!. Store and share music, photos and documents online with ease. Try it now! -- Rishiwww.rishiprasad.com Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 Dear Rishi - Namaste. You are more than welcome to use this writing on your website. I am happy that you found it informative. I was referring to the deeper dynamics of jeeva nadi. My name is " Sanjay Aggarwal " . I used to run a large jyotish group many years ago which was folded off. I also write under the id saggarwal_4 which I used to answer the last 2 queries. Many folks know me by that id. Present day commitments do not allow me to spend too much time on the web. I get on occasionally and post when I find something interesting. I am quite active in ashram/temple activities so that keeps me occupied. I will write more if there is interest as & when I get time. Again, I am sorry if I hurt anyone in the process of my postings earlier. Best Wishes. , " Rishi Prasad " <rishiprasad wrote: > > dear svcji, > i absolutely loved what you wrote here. > if i have the permission of the group, may i use a part of this on my > website too? i would be happy to attach a link to this group and follow > whatever protocol the group decides upon. > i am not looking to take advantage in any manner. its just such a beautiful > piece that i would like the visitors to my site to also benefit from it. > regards, > rishi > www.rishiprasad.com > > 2008/5/9 svc_astro <svc_astro: > > > Dear Rishi/Vivek, > > > > Namaste. Thank you for the concurrence. The problem nowadays is that > > most folks act as if they have taken the responsibility to change > > every , every website and that they are the God given > > gift to mankind. This just shows that their 'I' is established > > firmly. What they do not realize is that an act of giving, a kind > > word, a grateful deed, proper use of courteous language will go a > > long way in burning their karma & building a healthy relationship > > with the divine. Use of aggressive words is a sign of weakness, > > insecurity & one of leading a unharmonious life. > > > > Coming back to the subject proper viz. " Nadi Astrology " . As per my > > anubhava nadi shabda has its roots in nas (nerves). Literally nadi > > means 'nerves'. Connecting it with Nadi Astrology, is is Saturn that > > rules nadis. Saturn exalts in tula rasi. Tula represents the > > balance. Saturn is connected with vayu in panchanga. Remember Lagna > > is twacha (vayu tatva), 2nd bhava is netra (agni tatva), 3rd is > > karana (ears; akaasha), 4th is nasika (nose; kshiti tatwa) and 5th > > is jihba (tongue; apo tatva). Saturn is connected with nakshatra. > > Mangal with vaara. Guru with akasha. Budha (mercury) with karana and > > Shukra with thithi as per panchanga classification. > > > > Let me post some thoughts on jeeva nadi & connection with astrology > > as I have some time today and am back from temple activities. > > > > We said above that Saturn rules nadi. Meaning the connection with > > vayu element (breath; prana) is apparent. There are 3 prominent > > nadis viz. ida, pingala and sushumna which are in the sookshma > > shareera. The svara (breath) either flows through ida or pingala in > > a jiva. This gives delusion, illusion & error. The whole aim is to > > balance the breath and allow it to flow through the central nadi > > system called sushumna. Once the breath begins to flow through the > > central channel one begins to get guru anubhava and the nada dhvani > > begins to emanate from antahkarana. Sound is a function of akash > > tatva. This is the true jeeva nadi. It is through this madhyam that > > the maharishis communicate to the intended sishya (nadi reader) to > > give a jeeva nadi reading. We must check up Saturn in both rasi and > > amsa to see link with jeeva nadi from poorva janma. Jeeva nadi > > reading is direct communication channel (sushumna breathing) with > > the uplink (divine). This kind of reading is given to a jeeva who is > > moving from a state of tamas (ignorance; darkness) to jyoti (light). > > Again, it is the maharishi who pulls the jeeva to give the reading > > and is not done so as per the desire of the jeeva. In simpler words > > in no way do we have any say in anything in this cosmos. We are a > > reflection of our karma. When the time is right, the karma is > > exhausted to a certain bandwidth, the guru will reveal to us in the > > form of jeeva nadi reading or materialising or anyother means for > > that matter. This means that it is pointless abandon our daily > > effort in search for the unknown through nadi leaves and nadi > > readings. Maharishis do not entertain abandonment of karma for > > momentary gratification of senses through self desired nadi > > readings. Nadi reading will come to you sitting in your house if it > > is intended to. This is what I had written (implied) in my previous > > postings to the group which Mr. Rohit point blank abused me for. I > > took it that he did not understand a word. I remained increasingly > > courteous to him. He responded back by being aggressive not only to > > me but to one and all. I still wish him the all the best with all my > > heart and pray that God give him the buddhi to be kind to one and > > all. > > > > With that I rest my case and hope that there is increasing > > courteousness and lesser finger pointing & agressiveness on the > > group. Let us all thank the moderator/creator of this group for > > giving us a brilliant platform to discuss. Let us also thank Shri > > Shashikant Ji for a wonderful book that he has donated to mankind. > > Let us thank the makers of the website for providing all of us a > > wonderful medium to get newer research information. > > > > Every inch of knowledge that is received from any source must be > > appreciated and thanked for..That is how it should be. > > > > Best Wishes. > > > > <% 40>, > > " Rishi Prasad " > > <rishiprasad@> wrote: > > > > > > namaskar, > > > i would tend to agree with svc. even if my views are not in sync > > with that > > > of others, it is hardly appropriate to go on the offensive as > > rohit has done > > > and get abusive in the manner that he has done. vivek also seems > > to hold the > > > same point of view. i would really request everyone to not use this > > > platform-to which i am absolutely new-as a means of showing their > > online > > > muscle or aggression. lets just talk astrology and try and learn > > from each > > > other.i am a professional astrologer based in delhi. but i am not > > looking > > > for work through this group. i would simply be happy to share the > > little > > > knowledge i have with anyone who might be helped by it. > > > regards, > > > rishi > > > www.rishiprasad.com > > > > > > 2008/5/9 svc_astro <svc_astro@>: > > > > > > > Namaste. All topics are related to TRUTH. EKAM SATYA. Is it > > not?! > > > > Seems like I irritated you and you felt bad about the posting > > that > > > > was made. I am sorry if you felt that way. Please contemplate > > more > > > > and try to understand the post that was made rather than take > > things > > > > personally. You seem to be an emotional person who jumps at > > > > everything. > > > > > > > > MODERATOR: Is this kind of outburst/abuse allowed on this group? > > I am > > > > hoping folks like this person are more courteous in their > > exchange of > > > > words & use of language. > > > > > > > > Best Wishes. > > > > > > > > <% 40><% > > 40>, > > > > > > ~Rohit~ <rrohit_123@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > What rubbish is this Mr. Astro?? > > > > > Can you tell me tell me single sentence out of all the 25 lines > > > > you have written which is related to the topic I have posted > > here? I > > > > have seen your previous posts also, you reply to the posts with > > the > > > > rubbish which is not related to the topic which was going on. If > > you > > > > want to post your philosophy why don't you start a new thread and > > > > invite others to comment on it. Just because you want others to > > > > notice you and make you feel important why rattle a philosophy > > which > > > > kills the good topic started by others. > > > > > > > > > > My topic was about past life predictions given by even road > > side > > > > tellers and common people including beggars and wanted members to > > > > think about it how it's possible and give their views. Can you > > tell > > > > me whether you have read my post at least, if yes, have you got > > it > > > > what it's saying? I have asked to ponder on this topic, not on > > your > > > > life's philosophy. Please post a new message next time you want > > to > > > > say something good to the forum. > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > svc_astro <svc_astro@> wrote: >>>All comments are > > > > welcome. > > > > > > > > > > Namaste. Thank you for giving an opportunity to ponder & > > express. > > > > > Future is food for the mind. Past is akin to looking in the > > rear > > > > > view mirror and driving. Can you drive by looking at the rear > > view > > > > > mirror?! A true yogi is changing his bhagya (destiny) every > > single > > > > > breath (kshana). This is how sadhana is: the more you receive, > > the > > > > > more you want to do sadhana. Fruit is given as the process > > takes > > > > > place. You constantly want to make a greater & greater effort. > > But > > > > > let me tell you , it doesnt become easier. If you think the > > more > > > > > sadhana you do, the easier it will get you are wrong. The more > > > > > sadhana you do, the more difficult it gets..but it is more > > > > exciting. > > > > > > > > > > Do not worry about past or future in the form of nadi readings. > > > > Live > > > > > in the moment, the present. In this moment is the possibility > > of > > > > > attaining THAT..Even though Self is fully manifest within us, > > it > > > > > only thru awakening of Shakti and the process of sadhana that > > it is > > > > > revealed. Guru is trikalagyaani. It is your destiny that > > brings you > > > > > to the Guru to receive shaktipat, but then you must make the > > right > > > > > self effort to cultivate golden virtues. Without action there > > can > > > > be > > > > > no jnaana. The crux of the matter is that nothing comes > > easily. You > > > > > have to work for it; you have to put the effort. It is as > > simple as > > > > > that. Nadi reading or not, past or future, whatever, it does > > not > > > > > matter..You must make the effort!! > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes. > > > > > > > > > > <% 40><% > > 40>, > > > > > > ~Rohit~ <rrohit_123@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There seems to be general feeling of thrill in this forum > > with > > > > > regards to 100 percent accuracy of past predictions given by > > naadi > > > > > readers. This past accuracy induces the trust in seekers mind > > > > > towards the naadi reader. I would like to mention that I am > > not at > > > > > all amazed by this past predictions thing. I have through this > > > > > before accidently many times, but I am not sure of the > > > > > technicalities behind this accuracy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There have been many stories told my mom, how some person > > came > > > > > for begging in the afternoon while I was away in school and > > how he > > > > > said many thing about our home ( your husband working here, how > > > > many > > > > > sons, daughters, son now in school, including some of the > > things > > > > > like yesterday you fought, your son came top in exams etc ). > > But > > > > > these sadhus or sometimes plain beggars can't tell anything > > about > > > > > future. Sometimes they even fool the people into giving them > > cash. > > > > > My mom got fooled once. They even know how much amount is there > > > > > right now in the house. I once encountered this kind of person > > in > > > > my > > > > > college times and drove him away. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My recent experience: I had a visit to Hyderabad to my > > relatives > > > > > place around 1 yr back. We were sitting in veranda when such > > person > > > > > came across for begging. He was dressed like half sadhu, He > > started > > > > > rattling same thing, all accurate to my aunt and mom. I was > > > > > surprised but we have seen this before and it was not big > > deal. We > > > > > gave him 2 rupees and ask him to please go next door bluntly. > > We > > > > > went away silently. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my school days, when I visited my village, I remember > > vaguely > > > > > people used to come with bulls ( who were decorated and > > colored ) > > > > on > > > > > Makar Sankranthi , stand in front of house and used to tell > > some > > > > > predictions like this before taking dhaan ( Usually raw rice , > > > > > pulses etc). If I remember correctly bull so some kind of > > dance by > > > > > waving their heads and their language of poetic. It was fun > > for us. > > > > > Of course those predictions were accurate with regards to past. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not sure what's behind all this, may be experienced > > members > > > > > can throw light on this. All naadi readers I have visited told > > only > > > > > about my name, parent's name, date of birth etc. However above > > > > > people went great lengths into the past. All comments are > > welcome. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Rohit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with > > > > > Mobile. Try it now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with > > Mobile. > > > > Try it now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Rishi > > > www.rishiprasad.com > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 Dear Aries - Namaste. I was referring to deeper context/dynamics of jeeva nadi. Seems like some enjoyed my posts while others did not. This is the duality in which we all live in. Some are happy. Some are sad. Some are selfish. Some are selfless. I am sorry if my posting made no sense to you. You are free to ignore it. I wish you all the best. Best Wishes. , aries <waryaries wrote: > > Namaste , Good luck to you all . > > Dear Astro can you please tell me what was your intenstion when you wrote such a long mail ? , to me, I could not make head or tail out of it . > > I believe the topic was about " Past Prediction Accurancy " , does your mail has something on it , please be kind to ignorant souls - Please let us know if this was about the same topic . > > Initially I addmired Sashikant Oak for his Naadi book but I have critical eye , now I realize that he was just documenting what he experienced in Naadi and I think that no research was done on it , was just skin deep . This is my observation about the book and website . > I believe I have the right to comment on it . > > If you know astrology you will realize that it is about satistics and experience in interpreting the statistical data but Naadi is totally mysterious . Some one who doesnt ( normaly ) show you the leaf but keeps uttering some stanza and explain to you, if the leaf he reads is yours why cant they give you the copy or leaf itself ? . The Naadi people claim them selves as " readers " and not astrologers , if yiou know sanskrit or vattazhuthu you can read it yourself . > > Please be realistic in writing and about others cognitive levels . Do not try to put down some meaning less words thinking that it is philosophy and you will be admired..no never it will happen . > > Thanks , > Aries svc_astro <svc_astro wrote: > Dear Rishi/Vivek, > > Namaste. Thank you for the concurrence. The problem nowadays is that > most folks act as if they have taken the responsibility to change > every , every website and that they are the God given > gift to mankind. This just shows that their 'I' is established > firmly. What they do not realize is that an act of giving, a kind > word, a grateful deed, proper use of courteous language will go a > long way in burning their karma & building a healthy relationship > with the divine. Use of aggressive words is a sign of weakness, > insecurity & one of leading a unharmonious life. > > Coming back to the subject proper viz. " Nadi Astrology " . As per my > anubhava nadi shabda has its roots in nas (nerves). Literally nadi > means 'nerves'. Connecting it with Nadi Astrology, is is Saturn that > rules nadis. Saturn exalts in tula rasi. Tula represents the > balance. Saturn is connected with vayu in panchanga. Remember Lagna > is twacha (vayu tatva), 2nd bhava is netra (agni tatva), 3rd is > karana (ears; akaasha), 4th is nasika (nose; kshiti tatwa) and 5th > is jihba (tongue; apo tatva). Saturn is connected with nakshatra. > Mangal with vaara. Guru with akasha. Budha (mercury) with karana and > Shukra with thithi as per panchanga classification. > > Let me post some thoughts on jeeva nadi & connection with astrology > as I have some time today and am back from temple activities. > > We said above that Saturn rules nadi. Meaning the connection with > vayu element (breath; prana) is apparent. There are 3 prominent > nadis viz. ida, pingala and sushumna which are in the sookshma > shareera. The svara (breath) either flows through ida or pingala in > a jiva. This gives delusion, illusion & error. The whole aim is to > balance the breath and allow it to flow through the central nadi > system called sushumna. Once the breath begins to flow through the > central channel one begins to get guru anubhava and the nada dhvani > begins to emanate from antahkarana. Sound is a function of akash > tatva. This is the true jeeva nadi. It is through this madhyam that > the maharishis communicate to the intended sishya (nadi reader) to > give a jeeva nadi reading. We must check up Saturn in both rasi and > amsa to see link with jeeva nadi from poorva janma. Jeeva nadi > reading is direct communication channel (sushumna breathing) with > the uplink (divine). This kind of reading is given to a jeeva who is > moving from a state of tamas (ignorance; darkness) to jyoti (light). > Again, it is the maharishi who pulls the jeeva to give the reading > and is not done so as per the desire of the jeeva. In simpler words > in no way do we have any say in anything in this cosmos. We are a > reflection of our karma. When the time is right, the karma is > exhausted to a certain bandwidth, the guru will reveal to us in the > form of jeeva nadi reading or materialising or anyother means for > that matter. This means that it is pointless abandon our daily > effort in search for the unknown through nadi leaves and nadi > readings. Maharishis do not entertain abandonment of karma for > momentary gratification of senses through self desired nadi > readings. Nadi reading will come to you sitting in your house if it > is intended to. This is what I had written (implied) in my previous > postings to the group which Mr. Rohit point blank abused me for. I > took it that he did not understand a word. I remained increasingly > courteous to him. He responded back by being aggressive not only to > me but to one and all. I still wish him the all the best with all my > heart and pray that God give him the buddhi to be kind to one and > all. > > With that I rest my case and hope that there is increasing > courteousness and lesser finger pointing & agressiveness on the > group. Let us all thank the moderator/creator of this group for > giving us a brilliant platform to discuss. Let us also thank Shri > Shashikant Ji for a wonderful book that he has donated to mankind. > Let us thank the makers of the website for providing all of us a > wonderful medium to get newer research information. > > Every inch of knowledge that is received from any source must be > appreciated and thanked for..That is how it should be. > > Best Wishes. > > , " Rishi Prasad " > <rishiprasad@> wrote: > > > > namaskar, > > i would tend to agree with svc. even if my views are not in sync > with that > > of others, it is hardly appropriate to go on the offensive as > rohit has done > > and get abusive in the manner that he has done. vivek also seems > to hold the > > same point of view. i would really request everyone to not use this > > platform-to which i am absolutely new-as a means of showing their > online > > muscle or aggression. lets just talk astrology and try and learn > from each > > other.i am a professional astrologer based in delhi. but i am not > looking > > for work through this group. i would simply be happy to share the > little > > knowledge i have with anyone who might be helped by it. > > regards, > > rishi > > www.rishiprasad.com > > > > 2008/5/9 svc_astro <svc_astro@>: > > > > > Namaste. All topics are related to TRUTH. EKAM SATYA. Is it > not?! > > > Seems like I irritated you and you felt bad about the posting > that > > > was made. I am sorry if you felt that way. Please contemplate > more > > > and try to understand the post that was made rather than take > things > > > personally. You seem to be an emotional person who jumps at > > > everything. > > > > > > MODERATOR: Is this kind of outburst/abuse allowed on this group? > I am > > > hoping folks like this person are more courteous in their > exchange of > > > words & use of language. > > > > > > Best Wishes. > > > > > > <% > 40>, > > > ~Rohit~ <rrohit_123@> wrote: > > > > > > > > What rubbish is this Mr. Astro?? > > > > Can you tell me tell me single sentence out of all the 25 lines > > > you have written which is related to the topic I have posted > here? I > > > have seen your previous posts also, you reply to the posts with > the > > > rubbish which is not related to the topic which was going on. If > you > > > want to post your philosophy why don't you start a new thread and > > > invite others to comment on it. Just because you want others to > > > notice you and make you feel important why rattle a philosophy > which > > > kills the good topic started by others. > > > > > > > > My topic was about past life predictions given by even road > side > > > tellers and common people including beggars and wanted members to > > > think about it how it's possible and give their views. Can you > tell > > > me whether you have read my post at least, if yes, have you got > it > > > what it's saying? I have asked to ponder on this topic, not on > your > > > life's philosophy. Please post a new message next time you want > to > > > say something good to the forum. > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > svc_astro <svc_astro@> wrote: >>>All comments are > > > welcome. > > > > > > > > Namaste. Thank you for giving an opportunity to ponder & > express. > > > > Future is food for the mind. Past is akin to looking in the > rear > > > > view mirror and driving. Can you drive by looking at the rear > view > > > > mirror?! A true yogi is changing his bhagya (destiny) every > single > > > > breath (kshana). This is how sadhana is: the more you receive, > the > > > > more you want to do sadhana. Fruit is given as the process > takes > > > > place. You constantly want to make a greater & greater effort. > But > > > > let me tell you , it doesnt become easier. If you think the > more > > > > sadhana you do, the easier it will get you are wrong. The more > > > > sadhana you do, the more difficult it gets..but it is more > > > exciting. > > > > > > > > Do not worry about past or future in the form of nadi readings. > > > Live > > > > in the moment, the present. In this moment is the possibility > of > > > > attaining THAT..Even though Self is fully manifest within us, > it > > > > only thru awakening of Shakti and the process of sadhana that > it is > > > > revealed. Guru is trikalagyaani. It is your destiny that > brings you > > > > to the Guru to receive shaktipat, but then you must make the > right > > > > self effort to cultivate golden virtues. Without action there > can > > > be > > > > no jnaana. The crux of the matter is that nothing comes > easily. You > > > > have to work for it; you have to put the effort. It is as > simple as > > > > that. Nadi reading or not, past or future, whatever, it does > not > > > > matter..You must make the effort!! > > > > > > > > Best Wishes. > > > > > > > > <% > 40>, > > > ~Rohit~ <rrohit_123@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There seems to be general feeling of thrill in this forum > with > > > > regards to 100 percent accuracy of past predictions given by > naadi > > > > readers. This past accuracy induces the trust in seekers mind > > > > towards the naadi reader. I would like to mention that I am > not at > > > > all amazed by this past predictions thing. I have through this > > > > before accidently many times, but I am not sure of the > > > > technicalities behind this accuracy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There have been many stories told my mom, how some person > came > > > > for begging in the afternoon while I was away in school and > how he > > > > said many thing about our home ( your husband working here, how > > > many > > > > sons, daughters, son now in school, including some of the > things > > > > like yesterday you fought, your son came top in exams etc ). > But > > > > these sadhus or sometimes plain beggars can't tell anything > about > > > > future. Sometimes they even fool the people into giving them > cash. > > > > My mom got fooled once. They even know how much amount is there > > > > right now in the house. I once encountered this kind of person > in > > > my > > > > college times and drove him away. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My recent experience: I had a visit to Hyderabad to my > relatives > > > > place around 1 yr back. We were sitting in veranda when such > person > > > > came across for begging. He was dressed like half sadhu, He > started > > > > rattling same thing, all accurate to my aunt and mom. I was > > > > surprised but we have seen this before and it was not big > deal. We > > > > gave him 2 rupees and ask him to please go next door bluntly. > We > > > > went away silently. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my school days, when I visited my village, I remember > vaguely > > > > people used to come with bulls ( who were decorated and > colored ) > > > on > > > > Makar Sankranthi , stand in front of house and used to tell > some > > > > predictions like this before taking dhaan ( Usually raw rice , > > > > pulses etc). If I remember correctly bull so some kind of > dance by > > > > waving their heads and their language of poetic. It was fun > for us. > > > > Of course those predictions were accurate with regards to past. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not sure what's behind all this, may be experienced > members > > > > can throw light on this. All naadi readers I have visited told > only > > > > about my name, parent's name, date of birth etc. However above > > > > people went great lengths into the past. All comments are > welcome. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > Rohit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with > > > > Mobile. Try it now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with > Mobile. > > > Try it now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Rishi > > www.rishiprasad.com > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 Dear Aries, If we dont agree with Astro's points, we become selfish. If we agree we become selfless Regards svc_astro <svc_astro wrote: Dear Aries - Namaste. I was referring to deeper context/dynamics of jeeva nadi.Seems like some enjoyed my posts while others did not. This is the duality in which we all live in. Some are happy. Some are sad. Some are selfish. Some are selfless. I am sorry if my posting made no sense to you. You are free to ignore it. I wish you all the best. Best Wishes. , aries <waryaries wrote:>> Namaste , Good luck to you all .> > Dear Astro can you please tell me what was your intenstion when you wrote such a long mail ? , to me, I could not make head or tail out of it . > > I believe the topic was about " Past Prediction Accurancy " , does your mail has something on it , please be kind to ignorant souls - Please let us know if this was about the same topic .> > Initially I addmired Sashikant Oak for his Naadi book but I have critical eye , now I realize that he was just documenting what he experienced in Naadi and I think that no research was done on it , was just skin deep . This is my observation about the book and website .> I believe I have the right to comment on it .> > If you know astrology you will realize that it is about satistics and experience in interpreting the statistical data but Naadi is totally mysterious . Some one who doesnt ( normaly ) show you the leaf but keeps uttering some stanza and explain to you, if the leaf he reads is yours why cant they give you the copy or leaf itself ? . The Naadi people claim them selves as "readers" and not astrologers , if yiou know sanskrit or vattazhuthu you can read it yourself .> > Please be realistic in writing and about others cognitive levels . Do not try to put down some meaning less words thinking that it is philosophy and you will be admired..no never it will happen . > > Thanks ,> Aries> > > > > > > svc_astro <svc_astro wrote:> Dear Rishi/Vivek, > > Namaste. Thank you for the concurrence. The problem nowadays is that > most folks act as if they have taken the responsibility to change > every , every website and that they are the God given > gift to mankind. This just shows that their 'I' is established > firmly. What they do not realize is that an act of giving, a kind > word, a grateful deed, proper use of courteous language will go a > long way in burning their karma & building a healthy relationship > with the divine. Use of aggressive words is a sign of weakness, > insecurity & one of leading a unharmonious life. > > Coming back to the subject proper viz. "Nadi Astrology". As per my > anubhava nadi shabda has its roots in nas (nerves). Literally nadi > means 'nerves'. Connecting it with Nadi Astrology, is is Saturn that > rules nadis. Saturn exalts in tula rasi. Tula represents the > balance. Saturn is connected with vayu in panchanga. Remember Lagna > is twacha (vayu tatva), 2nd bhava is netra (agni tatva), 3rd is > karana (ears; akaasha), 4th is nasika (nose; kshiti tatwa) and 5th > is jihba (tongue; apo tatva). Saturn is connected with nakshatra. > Mangal with vaara. Guru with akasha. Budha (mercury) with karana and > Shukra with thithi as per panchanga classification. > > Let me post some thoughts on jeeva nadi & connection with astrology > as I have some time today and am back from temple activities. > > We said above that Saturn rules nadi. Meaning the connection with > vayu element (breath; prana) is apparent. There are 3 prominent > nadis viz. ida, pingala and sushumna which are in the sookshma > shareera. The svara (breath) either flows through ida or pingala in > a jiva. This gives delusion, illusion & error. The whole aim is to > balance the breath and allow it to flow through the central nadi > system called sushumna. Once the breath begins to flow through the > central channel one begins to get guru anubhava and the nada dhvani > begins to emanate from antahkarana. Sound is a function of akash > tatva. This is the true jeeva nadi. It is through this madhyam that > the maharishis communicate to the intended sishya (nadi reader) to > give a jeeva nadi reading. We must check up Saturn in both rasi and > amsa to see link with jeeva nadi from poorva janma. Jeeva nadi > reading is direct communication channel (sushumna breathing) with > the uplink (divine). This kind of reading is given to a jeeva who is > moving from a state of tamas (ignorance; darkness) to jyoti (light). > Again, it is the maharishi who pulls the jeeva to give the reading > and is not done so as per the desire of the jeeva. In simpler words > in no way do we have any say in anything in this cosmos. We are a > reflection of our karma. When the time is right, the karma is > exhausted to a certain bandwidth, the guru will reveal to us in the > form of jeeva nadi reading or materialising or anyother means for > that matter. This means that it is pointless abandon our daily > effort in search for the unknown through nadi leaves and nadi > readings. Maharishis do not entertain abandonment of karma for > momentary gratification of senses through self desired nadi > readings. Nadi reading will come to you sitting in your house if it > is intended to. This is what I had written (implied) in my previous > postings to the group which Mr. Rohit point blank abused me for. I > took it that he did not understand a word. I remained increasingly > courteous to him. He responded back by being aggressive not only to > me but to one and all. I still wish him the all the best with all my > heart and pray that God give him the buddhi to be kind to one and > all. > > With that I rest my case and hope that there is increasing > courteousness and lesser finger pointing & agressiveness on the > group. Let us all thank the moderator/creator of this group for > giving us a brilliant platform to discuss. Let us also thank Shri > Shashikant Ji for a wonderful book that he has donated to mankind. > Let us thank the makers of the website for providing all of us a > wonderful medium to get newer research information. > > Every inch of knowledge that is received from any source must be > appreciated and thanked for..That is how it should be. > > Best Wishes.> > , "Rishi Prasad" > <rishiprasad@> wrote:> >> > namaskar,> > i would tend to agree with svc. even if my views are not in sync > with that> > of others, it is hardly appropriate to go on the offensive as > rohit has done> > and get abusive in the manner that he has done. vivek also seems > to hold the> > same point of view. i would really request everyone to not use this> > platform-to which i am absolutely new-as a means of showing their > online> > muscle or aggression. lets just talk astrology and try and learn > from each> > other.i am a professional astrologer based in delhi. but i am not > looking> > for work through this group. i would simply be happy to share the > little> > knowledge i have with anyone who might be helped by it.> > regards,> > rishi> > www.rishiprasad.com> > > > 2008/5/9 svc_astro <svc_astro@>:> > > > > Namaste. All topics are related to TRUTH. EKAM SATYA. Is it > not?!> > > Seems like I irritated you and you felt bad about the posting > that> > > was made. I am sorry if you felt that way. Please contemplate > more> > > and try to understand the post that was made rather than take > things> > > personally. You seem to be an emotional person who jumps at> > > everything.> > >> > > MODERATOR: Is this kind of outburst/abuse allowed on this group? > I am> > > hoping folks like this person are more courteous in their > exchange of> > > words & use of language.> > >> > > Best Wishes.> > >> > > <%> 40>,> > > ~Rohit~ <rrohit_123@> wrote:> > > >> > > > What rubbish is this Mr. Astro??> > > > Can you tell me tell me single sentence out of all the 25 lines> > > you have written which is related to the topic I have posted > here? I> > > have seen your previous posts also, you reply to the posts with > the> > > rubbish which is not related to the topic which was going on. If > you> > > want to post your philosophy why don't you start a new thread and> > > invite others to comment on it. Just because you want others to> > > notice you and make you feel important why rattle a philosophy > which> > > kills the good topic started by others.> > > >> > > > My topic was about past life predictions given by even road > side> > > tellers and common people including beggars and wanted members to> > > think about it how it's possible and give their views. Can you > tell> > > me whether you have read my post at least, if yes, have you got > it> > > what it's saying? I have asked to ponder on this topic, not on > your> > > life's philosophy. Please post a new message next time you want > to> > > say something good to the forum.> > > > Thanks> > > >> > > >> > > > svc_astro <svc_astro@> wrote: >>>All comments are> > > welcome.> > > >> > > > Namaste. Thank you for giving an opportunity to ponder & > express.> > > > Future is food for the mind. Past is akin to looking in the > rear> > > > view mirror and driving. Can you drive by looking at the rear > view> > > > mirror?! A true yogi is changing his bhagya (destiny) every > single> > > > breath (kshana). This is how sadhana is: the more you receive, > the> > > > more you want to do sadhana. Fruit is given as the process > takes> > > > place. You constantly want to make a greater & greater effort. > But> > > > let me tell you , it doesnt become easier. If you think the > more> > > > sadhana you do, the easier it will get you are wrong. The more> > > > sadhana you do, the more difficult it gets..but it is more> > > exciting.> > > >> > > > Do not worry about past or future in the form of nadi readings.> > > Live> > > > in the moment, the present. In this moment is the possibility > of> > > > attaining THAT..Even though Self is fully manifest within us, > it> > > > only thru awakening of Shakti and the process of sadhana that > it is> > > > revealed. Guru is trikalagyaani. It is your destiny that > brings you> > > > to the Guru to receive shaktipat, but then you must make the > right> > > > self effort to cultivate golden virtues. Without action there > can> > > be> > > > no jnaana. The crux of the matter is that nothing comes > easily. You> > > > have to work for it; you have to put the effort. It is as > simple as> > > > that. Nadi reading or not, past or future, whatever, it does > not> > > > matter..You must make the effort!!> > > >> > > > Best Wishes.> > > >> > > > <%> 40>,> > > ~Rohit~ <rrohit_123@>> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Members,> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > There seems to be general feeling of thrill in this forum > with> > > > regards to 100 percent accuracy of past predictions given by > naadi> > > > readers. This past accuracy induces the trust in seekers mind> > > > towards the naadi reader. I would like to mention that I am > not at> > > > all amazed by this past predictions thing. I have through this> > > > before accidently many times, but I am not sure of the> > > > technicalities behind this accuracy.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > There have been many stories told my mom, how some person > came> > > > for begging in the afternoon while I was away in school and > how he> > > > said many thing about our home ( your husband working here, how> > > many> > > > sons, daughters, son now in school, including some of the > things> > > > like yesterday you fought, your son came top in exams etc ). > But> > > > these sadhus or sometimes plain beggars can't tell anything > about> > > > future. Sometimes they even fool the people into giving them > cash.> > > > My mom got fooled once. They even know how much amount is there> > > > right now in the house. I once encountered this kind of person > in> > > my> > > > college times and drove him away.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > My recent experience: I had a visit to Hyderabad to my > relatives> > > > place around 1 yr back. We were sitting in veranda when such > person> > > > came across for begging. He was dressed like half sadhu, He > started> > > > rattling same thing, all accurate to my aunt and mom. I was> > > > surprised but we have seen this before and it was not big > deal. We> > > > gave him 2 rupees and ask him to please go next door bluntly. > We> > > > went away silently.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > In my school days, when I visited my village, I remember > vaguely> > > > people used to come with bulls ( who were decorated and > colored )> > > on> > > > Makar Sankranthi , stand in front of house and used to tell > some> > > > predictions like this before taking dhaan ( Usually raw rice ,> > > > pulses etc). If I remember correctly bull so some kind of > dance by> > > > waving their heads and their language of poetic. It was fun > for us.> > > > Of course those predictions were accurate with regards to past.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > I am not sure what's behind all this, may be experienced > members> > > > can throw light on this. All naadi readers I have visited told > only> > > > about my name, parent's name, date of birth etc. However above> > > > people went great lengths into the past. All comments are > welcome.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Thanks> > > > > Rohit> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with > > > > Mobile. Try it now.> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with > Mobile.> > > Try it now.> > > >> > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > -- > > Rishi> > www.rishiprasad.com> >> > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. 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Guest guest Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 Namaste Aggarwal ji, I started with Namaste just to tell you that whether I say Namasthe or not say, my body of mail will remain same to you. It is the respect that you hold that’s important, not Namaste word. Truth is I haven’t got a single ounce of respect towards youJ Now think over this and have nice sleep. Anyways my mail was about 35 lines, did you read after the first line or not? I mean after ‘Namaste’ word Best wishes Rohitsaggarwal_4 <saggarwal_4 wrote: Namaste. I am happy that you made a sincere effort in starting off your post by writing "Namaste" for the first time. That is a good start to proper etiquette of communication. Keep up this effort!I am sorry if you felt bad and did not understand the posts. This is my last posting on this matter. You can continue to shout if you wish. Best Wishes. , ~Rohit~ <rrohit_123 wrote:>> Namaste. You are asking me try to understand the post that was made; now why don't you do that first by understanding my post?> > You are asking moderator to check on my post just by one comment of my mine on yours? So how do you think others felt when you throw your garbage on their posts repeatedly?> > You are talk of Ekam Satya, so where your philosophy going now when you taking your complaint to moderator of somebody who is pointing fingers at you. Why don't you leave that to God then?> > I m observing your last 3, 4 posts, you indulge in mockery and make fun at the posts which are normally long posts which takes effort and thought into writing it. Who do you think you are just like coming into the forum and pick the biggest post and throw your garbage which is unrelated to the post which was written? If you had a point to make nobody is stopping you to write a separate mail. I will also like that.> > You are saying I am emotional person jumping into everything; rather I am sound person who doesn't like seeing the wrong things done. If you are sound person then I expect you to not to behave like psychic and give a thought to something when imposing your views on others views. May be you can call a Satsang at your neighborhood to show your skills.> > You are saying I abused you. I called your post rubbish, not you. If you have self respect you will mend your ways and won't throw your rubbish again at my posts. This time I called your post rubbish, next time somebody may call you rubbish instead of calling your post rubbish. If I was moderator, I would have banned you for making fun of others posts by giving you two warnings. Hope you contemplate on this now and don't take this personally. > > Best Wishes> > > > svc_astro <svc_astro wrote:> Namaste. All topics are related to TRUTH. EKAM SATYA. Is it not?! > Seems like I irritated you and you felt bad about the posting that > was made. I am sorry if you felt that way. Please contemplate more > and try to understand the post that was made rather than take things > personally. You seem to be an emotional person who jumps at > everything.> > MODERATOR: Is this kind of outburst/abuse allowed on this group? I am > hoping folks like this person are more courteous in their exchange of > words & use of language.> > Best Wishes. > > , ~Rohit~ <rrohit_123@> wrote:> >> > What rubbish is this Mr. Astro??> > Can you tell me tell me single sentence out of all the 25 lines > you have written which is related to the topic I have posted here? I > have seen your previous posts also, you reply to the posts with the > rubbish which is not related to the topic which was going on. If you > want to post your philosophy why don't you start a new thread and > invite others to comment on it. Just because you want others to > notice you and make you feel important why rattle a philosophy which > kills the good topic started by others.> > > > My topic was about past life predictions given by even road side > tellers and common people including beggars and wanted members to > think about it how it's possible and give their views. Can you tell > me whether you have read my post at least, if yes, have you got it > what it's saying? I have asked to ponder on this topic, not on your > life's philosophy. Please post a new message next time you want to > say something good to the forum. > > Thanks> > > > > > svc_astro <svc_astro@> wrote: >>>All comments are > welcome.> > > > Namaste. Thank you for giving an opportunity to ponder & express. > > Future is food for the mind. Past is akin to looking in the rear > > view mirror and driving. Can you drive by looking at the rear view > > mirror?! A true yogi is changing his bhagya (destiny) every single > > breath (kshana). This is how sadhana is: the more you receive, the > > more you want to do sadhana. Fruit is given as the process takes > > place. You constantly want to make a greater & greater effort. But > > let me tell you , it doesnt become easier. If you think the more > > sadhana you do, the easier it will get you are wrong. The more > > sadhana you do, the more difficult it gets..but it is more > exciting. > > > > Do not worry about past or future in the form of nadi readings. > Live > > in the moment, the present. In this moment is the possibility of > > attaining THAT..Even though Self is fully manifest within us, it > > only thru awakening of Shakti and the process of sadhana that it is > > revealed. Guru is trikalagyaani. It is your destiny that brings you > > to the Guru to receive shaktipat, but then you must make the right > > self effort to cultivate golden virtues. Without action there can > be > > no jnaana. The crux of the matter is that nothing comes easily. You > > have to work for it; you have to put the effort. It is as simple as > > that. Nadi reading or not, past or future, whatever, it does not > > matter..You must make the effort!! > > > > Best Wishes.> > > > , ~Rohit~ <rrohit_123@> > > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Members,> > > > > > > > > There seems to be general feeling of thrill in this forum with > > regards to 100 percent accuracy of past predictions given by naadi > > readers. This past accuracy induces the trust in seekers mind > > towards the naadi reader. I would like to mention that I am not at > > all amazed by this past predictions thing. I have through this > > before accidently many times, but I am not sure of the > > technicalities behind this accuracy.> > > > > > > > > There have been many stories told my mom, how some person came > > for begging in the afternoon while I was away in school and how he > > said many thing about our home ( your husband working here, how > many > > sons, daughters, son now in school, including some of the things > > like yesterday you fought, your son came top in exams etc ). But > > these sadhus or sometimes plain beggars can't tell anything about > > future. Sometimes they even fool the people into giving them cash. > > My mom got fooled once. They even know how much amount is there > > right now in the house. I once encountered this kind of person in > my > > college times and drove him away.> > > > > > > > > > > > My recent experience: I had a visit to Hyderabad to my relatives > > place around 1 yr back. We were sitting in veranda when such person > > came across for begging. He was dressed like half sadhu, He started > > rattling same thing, all accurate to my aunt and mom. I was > > surprised but we have seen this before and it was not big deal. We > > gave him 2 rupees and ask him to please go next door bluntly. We > > went away silently. > > > > > > > > > In my school days, when I visited my village, I remember vaguely > > people used to come with bulls ( who were decorated and colored ) > on > > Makar Sankranthi , stand in front of house and used to tell some > > predictions like this before taking dhaan ( Usually raw rice , > > pulses etc). If I remember correctly bull so some kind of dance by > > waving their heads and their language of poetic. It was fun for us. > > Of course those predictions were accurate with regards to past. > > > > > > > > > I am not sure what's behind all this, may be experienced members > > can throw light on this. All naadi readers I have visited told only > > about my name, parent's name, date of birth etc. However above > > people went great lengths into the past. All comments are welcome.> > > > > > > > > Thanks> > > Rohit> > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with > > Mobile. Try it now.> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. > Try it now.> >> > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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