Deshmukh ji ..... We need to experiment ....Any one wanna give a try

May 3, 2008

Dear Deshmukh ji, Good to see your mail after long time. You finally got the time to post a message on this group. However just I wonder how you didn’t get the time to reply my message specifically addressed to you. You did get the time in between to promote the naadiwebguru site though. Few weeks back you wrote a mail mentioned how you got mesmerized by this mind boggling naadi system and

how frequently you sought naadi over the last 2 decades. You emphasized in the mail that readings change with every visit taking into current situation. Now my question is why the readings should change if Agasthia rishi has already mentioned about the age of seeking naadi. Are the leaves having dynamic text? As far as my knowledge they are not unless if we are referring to Jeeva naadi. If I am asking the wrong question please correct me else please answer my query. I believe one should not post something if you are not able to back it. Else one should withdraw that statement. I hope you answer this time at least. Thanks in advance. Below is your mail text. Regards, Rohit Yes, I agree with you. Not only that but sometimes itis also mentioned the no. of visits made earlier ! Itis simply mind boggling and defies all logical orscientific enquiry. At each Naadi reading session somemore information is disclosed accurately pinpointingthe events that took place since last reading.With my experience of over 20 years of Naadiconsultation I have come to the conclusion that thatNaadi readings will reveal only such things that youare destined to know at that particular time in life,nothing more or nothing less. The mystery about lifemust continue to sustain interest in the drama oflife. If everything about life is known I am

afraidhalf the population would either go crazy or simplycommit suicide! Yes, ignorance is indeed a bliss sofar as ordinary human beings are concerned.So, let us not seek and expect 100 % accuratepredictions as we really do not know that they will bein our best interest.VBDeshmuk -=-----------vbdeshmukh <deshmukhv wrote: Dear Shri Bandalu,I have been studying astrology for nearly two decadesand greatly interested in your planetary positions asgiven in Saptarshi Naadi for your birth date. I amvery curious to find out the system of calculations ofplanetary longitudes in Naadi astrology and comparewith the modern system. Hope, you would kindly oblige.Thanks and regards,VBD--- Bandula Amarasekera <bandula1947 > wrote:> Dear All members of this group> > I got my nadi read some time back.Now that reader> is dead.That was Saptha Rishi Nadi.From this nadi> he took only my thumb and palm.From nadi he told me> the date of birth and my chart [planetary position].> > Bandula> > > > aries <waryaries > wrote: Hi> All ,> > This forum is becoming matured, may be few will> think otherwise . We should let the weak hearts go .> I see threatening mails like " Am a Naadi lover but> I think I need to go to some other forum " ... let> them go .> > These are few things we need to do when we go to a> Naadi reader next time .> > 1. Take a camera along and get the snaps of your> leaf after reading .> > 2. have recording device with you from start to> end and you can later review what was the kind of> infomation he gathered from you .> > 3. Ask him why does he need DOB if the leaf> selection is based on Thumb impression .> > Let us not authorize anybody to give the zeal of> greatness to any Naadi reader,just b'koz of the fact> they knew Naadi before

anyone else in the group .Let> us be experimental with this as the future> predictions are in the range of fifty fifty .> > Thanks ,> Aries> > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all> with Mobile. Try it now. > > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with> Mobile. Try it now.Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html/

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May 7, 2008

Dear Rohit,

Let me at the outset apologise for failing to respond

to your mail through oversight caused by my absence on

the net for exactly one month due to change in

ISP.Thank you for drawing my attention to the slip-up.

During the month I visited nearby cyber-cafe a couple

of times just to check urgent mail fna and I must have

missed your mail.Hope, no hard feelings.

You have raised a very pertinent question and I will

try to share whatever knowledge and experience I have

in this regard.

I have not come across Jeeva Naadi and therefore

cannot comment on it. I have been meeting a Reader who

has inherited Soorya Samhita .No thumb impressions are

required for tracing the leaf.You are required to take

prior appointment for the date and time. So, when you

meet him as scheduled , he is ready with a stack of

laves maybe 100 or so and starts the proceeding to

confirm your identity like your name, parents name etc

from the leaves and once the identificaton part is

over, he starts reciting the verses from the leaf and

translating the same into your language which may be

English, Hindi, Marathi or Gujrathi for you to note

down simultaneously in your handwriting.No audio tapes

provided.I once asked him as to how he managed to

trace my leaf from a stack of only 100 or so leaves

when he claims to have thousands of them ? He told me

that these leaves are put together in several bundles

and every morning they refer to certain index in the

Samhita which indicates a specific bundle to transact

the day's business.He told me that over a period time,

they have lost innumerable leaves owing to

fire,thefts,transit losses etc. and therefore they can

serve only about 50-60 % of visitors, others have to

go back empty handed.No reading,no charge. Now, after

a lapse of time as and when you meet the Samhita

Reader by prior appointment the same procedure for

confirming your identity is followed but this time

some new events of significance which took place in

the interim period are diclosed as part of

identification process - mind you , not as part of

future prediction ! Obviously the wise sages already

know all that is lined for you in life but do not give

it all in one sitting or in one stroke and thus it

gives rise to the big question WHY !! Just immagine a

situation in which everybody knows as to what is going

to happen tomorrow, the next day,the ensuing weeks,

months and years.What do you think would happen ? The

affairs of the world would simply come to grinding

halt !! This would be absolutely contrary to the

Master Plan of the Supreme Creator. So it is now quite

understandable why the Sages refrained from upstting

the Master Plan or the Divine Plan by giving complete

prediction in one go.At least this is my conviction

and people may have their own different ideas in this

regard.No problem for me.

It seems the procedure to trace your leaf from Soorya

Samhita is nearly akin to the Horary astrology in

which a chart is made for the time and place of the

querry (Prashna Kundali ) and based on the planetary

positions predictions are given. Since I have talked

about Horary astrology,I just ca'nt help mentioning

the finest example of Horary Naadi/Samhita Astrology

which I came across in Saratsasan- a small hamlet or a

basti about 22Km from Bhubneshwar ,Orissa. Pandit

Bhagwan Misra apparently a well to do farmer with a

smiling face sits on the floor of a covered veranda

with a crowd of atleast 20 people sitting in front him

in the same veranda ( Covered courtyard) awaiting the

call from the Panditji.No prior appointment,no token

system or any methodology or order in calling up

people during the session.You may be the first person

to arrive in the morning and may be the last person to

leave in the late evening! Once you are seated infront

of him, Panditji draws a chart on the floor with a

crude piece of talcum and asks you to place the same

piece of chalk any where in the chart.He does not ask

any question but after observing the placement of the

chalk-piece fishes out a leaf from the stack and

starts reading and reciting the verses called OVI in

Oriya language. If you do not understand Oriya he

tries to explain in his broken Hindi the purpose of

your visit or the problem that led you to him ! He

also tells you if there is any solution or no solution

to your problem, all without any word from you.In fact

he discourages you from opening your mouth.Looks like

one way communication in which you simply nod your

head in agreement with Panditji's monologue and when

you nod your head in agreement a big smile lights up

his face with joy ofcourse if the matter is not grave.

No fees or dakshanas are asked and whatever is placed

before him is accepted with gratitude or sometimes the

offering is rejected if he feels the person is poor

and needy.I have witnessed it all during my two visits

not for any persoal problem but for the problems of my

friends and relatives.If you go with multiple

problems,Panditji touches them all seritem ! Needless

to say we are afflicted with various/different

problems at different times in life / particular

problem/s at particular point of time in life eager to

seek solution if there is any.Some problems stay with

us all our life and sometimes we almost get so used to

them over a period of time that we come to accept them

as our fate/ karma/ destiny or whatever and suffer.

The same thing is revealed in the leaf when no

solution/remedy is offered and we have to live with

those problem all our life. However what is most

amazing about Pt. Misra is the pinpoint accuracy in

the reading ! Apart from this all what pleased my

heart most was the attitude of Pt. Misra who never

ceased to smile as if he seemed to enjoy the entire

proces from morning till late hours in the evening

with a small lunch-break in between. Never losing his

cool even when provoked by an annoyed villager

questioning his wisdom.All he would say with a smile

that he was just reading the text from the leaf and he

was not to be blamed for it.He certainly enjoyed doing

what he was doing-service to the community with a

missionary zeal as if he was ordained ! I have not

come across a single Reader with such noble, humble

and loving character.

Now, dear Rohit Iam sure you would be curious to know

what kind of remedies were suggested and how did they

work, am I right ? Can we keep that question aside for

the time being ? But so far as your earlier questions

are concerned , I have placed before you if not all at

least considerable material for your perusal to find

the answer for yourself and I know you are

intelligent, experienced and knowledgeable enough to

draw your own conclusion.

Although I have lot more to share with the members, I

am constrained by my cardiac afflictions,advancing age

( 75) and age related ailments of various kinds which

sap a good deal of energy, stamina and enthusiasm.

Regards & BOL

VBD

--- ~Rohit~ <rrohit_123 wrote:

> Dear Deshmukh ji,

>

> Good to see your mail after long time. You finally

> got the time to post a message on this group.

> However just I wonder how you didn’t get the time to

> reply my message specifically addressed to you. You

> did get the time in between to promote the

> naadiwebguru site though.

>

> Few weeks back you wrote a mail mentioned how you

> got mesmerized by this mind boggling naadi system

> and how frequently you sought naadi over the last 2

> decades. You emphasized in the mail that readings

> change with every visit taking into current

> situation. Now my question is why the readings

> should change if Agasthia rishi has already

> mentioned about the age of seeking naadi. Are the

> leaves having dynamic text? As far as my knowledge

> they are not unless if we are referring to Jeeva

> naadi.

>

> If I am asking the wrong question please correct

> me else please answer my query. I believe one should

> not post something if you are not able to back it.

> Else one should withdraw that statement. I hope you

> answer this time at least. Thanks in advance.

>

> Below is your mail text.

>

> Regards,

> Rohit

>

> Yes, I agree with you. Not only that but sometimes

> it

> is also mentioned the no. of visits made earlier !

> It

> is simply mind boggling and defies all logical or

> scientific enquiry. At each Naadi reading session

> some

> more information is disclosed accurately pinpointing

> the events that took place since last reading.

> With my experience of over 20 years of Naadi

> consultation I have come to the conclusion that that

> Naadi readings will reveal only such things that you

> are destined to know at that particular time in

> life,

> nothing more or nothing less. The mystery about life

> must continue to sustain interest in the drama of

> life. If everything about life is known I am afraid

> half the population would either go crazy or simply

> commit suicide! Yes, ignorance is indeed a bliss so

> far as ordinary human beings are concerned.

> So, let us not seek and expect 100 % accurate

> predictions as we really do not know that they will

> be

> in our best interest.

> VBDeshmuk

>

> -=-----------

>

> vbdeshmukh <deshmukhv wrote:

> Dear Shri Bandalu,

> I have been studying astrology for nearly two

> decades

> and greatly interested in your planetary positions

> as

> given in Saptarshi Naadi for your birth date. I am

> very curious to find out the system of calculations

> of

> planetary longitudes in Naadi astrology and compare

> with the modern system. Hope, you would kindly

> oblige.

> Thanks and regards,

> VBD

>

> --- Bandula Amarasekera <bandula1947

> wrote:

>

> > Dear All members of this group

> >

> > I got my nadi read some time back.Now that reader

> > is dead.That was Saptha Rishi Nadi.From this nadi

> > he took only my thumb and palm.From nadi he told

> me

> > the date of birth and my chart [planetary

> position].

> >

> > Bandula

> >

> > aries <waryaries wrote: Hi

> > All ,

> >

> > This forum is becoming matured, may be few will

> > think otherwise . We should let the weak hearts go

> .

> > I see threatening mails like " Am a Naadi lover

> but

> > I think I need to go to some other forum " ... let

> > them go .

> >

> > These are few things we need to do when we go to a

> > Naadi reader next time .

> >

> > 1. Take a camera along and get the snaps of your

> > leaf after reading .

> >

> > 2. have recording device with you from start to

> > end and you can later review what was the kind of

> > infomation he gathered from you .

> >

> > 3. Ask him why does he need DOB if the leaf

> > selection is based on Thumb impression .

> >

> > Let us not authorize anybody to give the zeal of

> > greatness to any Naadi reader,just b'koz of the

> fact

> > they knew Naadi before anyone else in the group

> .Let

> > us be experimental with this as the future

> > predictions are in the range of fifty fifty .

> >

> > Thanks ,

> > Aries

> >

> > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all

> > with Mobile. Try it now.

> >

> > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all

> with

> > Mobile. Try it now.

>

> Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on

>

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>

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May 7, 2008

Respected Deshmukh ji, Many thanks for your reply and I apologize for putting strain on you. One thing clear from your post, you have lot more to offer to the group and the people who seek knowledge from you. The kind of attitude you have mentioned in the example, you would rarely find nowadays in the naadi readers, even in 1 percent of readers. You have not mentioned about remedies suggested by this samhita reader. My guess is, should be related to doing some social work or visiting temples may be. One thing strikes and wanted to share is , what is the possibility of these readers, who tells everything about you without thumb prints or asking questions, using yakshini vidya as discussed in this forum before. What your thoughts on this. Telling the past things about yourself is never fascinated me, coz I have seen lot of people telling about the past (even road side parrot astrologers) telling accurately. Please have your own thoughts on this whenever you have free time to write on this. Best regards, Rohitvbdeshmukh <deshmukhv wrote: Dear Rohit, Let me at the outset apologise for failing to respondto your mail through oversight caused by my absence onthe net for exactly one month due to change inISP.Thank you for drawing my attention to the slip-up.During the month I visited nearby

cyber-cafe a coupleof times just to check urgent mail fna and I must havemissed your mail.Hope, no hard feelings.You have raised a very pertinent question and I willtry to share whatever knowledge and experience I havein this regard.I have not come across Jeeva Naadi and thereforecannot comment on it. I have been meeting a Reader whohas inherited Soorya Samhita .No thumb impressions arerequired for tracing the leaf.You are required to takeprior appointment for the date and time. So, when youmeet him as scheduled , he is ready with a stack oflaves maybe 100 or so and starts the proceeding toconfirm your identity like your name, parents name etcfrom the leaves and once the identificaton part isover, he starts reciting the verses from the leaf andtranslating the same into your language which may beEnglish, Hindi, Marathi or Gujrathi for you to notedown simultaneously in your handwriting.No audio

tapesprovided.I once asked him as to how he managed totrace my leaf from a stack of only 100 or so leaveswhen he claims to have thousands of them ? He told methat these leaves are put together in several bundlesand every morning they refer to certain index in theSamhita which indicates a specific bundle to transactthe day's business.He told me that over a period time,they have lost innumerable leaves owing tofire,thefts,transit losses etc. and therefore they canserve only about 50-60 % of visitors, others have togo back empty handed.No reading,no charge. Now, aftera lapse of time as and when you meet the SamhitaReader by prior appointment the same procedure forconfirming your identity is followed but this timesome new events of significance which took place inthe interim period are diclosed as part ofidentification process - mind you , not as part offuture prediction ! Obviously the wise sages

alreadyknow all that is lined for you in life but do not giveit all in one sitting or in one stroke and thus itgives rise to the big question WHY !! Just immagine asituation in which everybody knows as to what is goingto happen tomorrow, the next day,the ensuing weeks,months and years.What do you think would happen ? Theaffairs of the world would simply come to grindinghalt !! This would be absolutely contrary to theMaster Plan of the Supreme Creator. So it is now quiteunderstandable why the Sages refrained from upsttingthe Master Plan or the Divine Plan by giving completeprediction in one go.At least this is my convictionand people may have their own different ideas in thisregard.No problem for me. It seems the procedure to trace your leaf from SooryaSamhita is nearly akin to the Horary astrology inwhich a chart is made for the time and place of thequerry (Prashna Kundali ) and based on the

planetarypositions predictions are given. Since I have talkedabout Horary astrology,I just ca'nt help mentioningthe finest example of Horary Naadi/Samhita Astrologywhich I came across in Saratsasan- a small hamlet or abasti about 22Km from Bhubneshwar ,Orissa. PanditBhagwan Misra apparently a well to do farmer with asmiling face sits on the floor of a covered verandawith a crowd of atleast 20 people sitting in front himin the same veranda ( Covered courtyard) awaiting thecall from the Panditji.No prior appointment,no tokensystem or any methodology or order in calling uppeople during the session.You may be the first personto arrive in the morning and may be the last person toleave in the late evening! Once you are seated infrontof him, Panditji draws a chart on the floor with acrude piece of talcum and asks you to place the samepiece of chalk any where in the chart.He does not askany question but

after observing the placement of thechalk-piece fishes out a leaf from the stack andstarts reading and reciting the verses called OVI inOriya language. If you do not understand Oriya hetries to explain in his broken Hindi the purpose ofyour visit or the problem that led you to him ! Healso tells you if there is any solution or no solutionto your problem, all without any word from you.In facthe discourages you from opening your mouth.Looks likeone way communication in which you simply nod yourhead in agreement with Panditji's monologue and whenyou nod your head in agreement a big smile lights uphis face with joy ofcourse if the matter is not grave.No fees or dakshanas are asked and whatever is placedbefore him is accepted with gratitude or sometimes theoffering is rejected if he feels the person is poorand needy.I have witnessed it all during my two visitsnot for any persoal problem but for the problems of

myfriends and relatives.If you go with multipleproblems,Panditji touches them all seritem ! Needlessto say we are afflicted with various/differentproblems at different times in life / particularproblem/s at particular point of time in life eager toseek solution if there is any.Some problems stay withus all our life and sometimes we almost get so used tothem over a period of time that we come to accept themas our fate/ karma/ destiny or whatever and suffer.The same thing is revealed in the leaf when nosolution/remedy is offered and we have to live withthose problem all our life. However what is mostamazing about Pt. Misra is the pinpoint accuracy inthe reading ! Apart from this all what pleased myheart most was the attitude of Pt. Misra who neverceased to smile as if he seemed to enjoy the entireproces from morning till late hours in the eveningwith a small lunch-break in between. Never losing

hiscool even when provoked by an annoyed villagerquestioning his wisdom.All he would say with a smilethat he was just reading the text from the leaf and hewas not to be blamed for it.He certainly enjoyed doingwhat he was doing-service to the community with amissionary zeal as if he was ordained ! I have notcome across a single Reader with such noble, humbleand loving character.Now, dear Rohit Iam sure you would be curious to knowwhat kind of remedies were suggested and how did theywork, am I right ? Can we keep that question aside forthe time being ? But so far as your earlier questionsare concerned , I have placed before you if not all atleast considerable material for your perusal to findthe answer for yourself and I know you areintelligent, experienced and knowledgeable enough todraw your own conclusion. Although I have lot more to share with the members, Iam constrained by my cardiac

afflictions,advancing age( 75) and age related ailments of various kinds whichsap a good deal of energy, stamina and enthusiasm. Regards & BOLVBD --- ~Rohit~ <rrohit_123 > wrote:> Dear Deshmukh ji,> > Good to see your mail after long time. You finally> got the time to post a message on this group.> However just I wonder how you didn’t get the time to> reply my message specifically addressed to you. You> did get the time in between to promote the> naadiwebguru site though.> > Few weeks back you wrote a mail mentioned how you> got mesmerized by this mind boggling naadi system> and how frequently you sought naadi over the last 2> decades. You emphasized in the mail that readings> change with every visit taking into current> situation. Now my question is why the

readings> should change if Agasthia rishi has already> mentioned about the age of seeking naadi. Are the> leaves having dynamic text? As far as my knowledge> they are not unless if we are referring to Jeeva> naadi. > > If I am asking the wrong question please correct> me else please answer my query. I believe one should> not post something if you are not able to back it.> Else one should withdraw that statement. I hope you> answer this time at least. Thanks in advance.> > Below is your mail text.> > Regards,> Rohit> > > Yes, I agree with you. Not only that but sometimes> it> is also mentioned the no. of visits made earlier !> It> is simply mind boggling and defies all logical or> scientific enquiry. At each Naadi reading session> some> more information is disclosed accurately

pinpointing> the events that took place since last reading.> With my experience of over 20 years of Naadi> consultation I have come to the conclusion that that> Naadi readings will reveal only such things that you> are destined to know at that particular time in> life,> nothing more or nothing less. The mystery about life> must continue to sustain interest in the drama of> life. If everything about life is known I am afraid> half the population would either go crazy or simply> commit suicide! Yes, ignorance is indeed a bliss so> far as ordinary human beings are concerned.> So, let us not seek and expect 100 % accurate> predictions as we really do not know that they will> be> in our best interest.> VBDeshmuk> > -=-----------> > > vbdeshmukh <deshmukhv (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > Dear Shri Bandalu,> I have been studying astrology for nearly two> decades> and greatly interested in your planetary positions> as> given in Saptarshi Naadi for your birth date. I am> very curious to find out the system of calculations> of> planetary longitudes in Naadi astrology and compare> with the modern system. Hope, you would kindly> oblige.> Thanks and regards,> VBD> > --- Bandula Amarasekera <bandula1947 >> wrote:> > > Dear All members of this group> > > > I got my nadi read some time back.Now that reader> > is dead.That was Saptha Rishi Nadi.From this nadi> > he took only my thumb and palm.From nadi he told> me> > the date of birth and

my chart [planetary> position].> > > > Bandula> > > > > > > > aries <waryaries > wrote: Hi> > All ,> > > > This forum is becoming matured, may be few will> > think otherwise . We should let the weak hearts go> .> > I see threatening mails like " Am a Naadi lover> but> > I think I need to go to some other forum " ... let> > them go .> > > > These are few things we need to do when we go to a> > Naadi reader next time .> > > > 1. Take a camera along and get the snaps of your> > leaf after reading .> > > > 2. have recording device with you from start to> > end and you can later review what was the kind of> > infomation he gathered from you .> > > >

3. Ask him why does he need DOB if the leaf> > selection is based on Thumb impression .> > > > Let us not authorize anybody to give the zeal of> > greatness to any Naadi reader,just b'koz of the> fact> > they knew Naadi before anyone else in the group> .Let> > us be experimental with this as the future> > predictions are in the range of fifty fifty .> > > > Thanks ,> > Aries> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all> > with Mobile. Try it now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all> with> >

Mobile. Try it now.> > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on>http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html/> > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with> Mobile. Try it now.Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Go to http://in.promos./groups/bestof/

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