My experiences and a little about naadiguruonweb.org - Come to the point

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"Naadiguruonweb is in its infancy and given time i am certain that it will streamline its processes which will surely put Naadi Josiyam on notice around the world. I will not be surprised to find the website having its own Naadi leaf bank and resident readers within years down the track. With so many proffessionals behind it the site may run the best Naadi centre anywhere in the world Only proactive feedbacks and experiences such as below may help make Naadiguruonweb a better experience for leaf seekers in future." --- your words. -------- Come to the point Mr Sunny. If you want to promote Naadiguruonweb, why dont you do it boldly writing a separate mail. Why interject in between the topic

and spoil the essence of the whole mail. Regards, Rohit Sunny Sunny <sunnyxshani wrote: Great writeup.........your share of first hand experience is highly appreciated.let me share mine to some extent. This issue of foreigners paying higher baffles me. The analogy that foreigners earn higher thus pay more.I wait to meet such people in my foreign land so I can charge them higher for being tourist to breathe our clean air or visit our attractions...and yes I will give a discount on accomodation raising it only 150% and not 200%. My charges at a very reputable centre went up by 200% once it was realised that i came from abroad. I immediately pointed out that Naadi leaf possesion was a gift to the centre to provide directions

to the natives. This gift was passed on by the Maharishis. After the reader (employee) went out of the room 'few' times to discuss with centre manager , the charge rise issue was dropped. I stopped at first reading only and decided not to go ahead with the other 3 other thumbprints in my possesion. This incident had brought a negative tinge to my feeling of devotion during this indirect meeting with the maharishis. Money was not the issue here but the greed of the centre had me think twice. I can only imagine what other foreigners may be going thru who do not know of this forum or a place to share their experience of being fleeced. Please note that I have experienced some very good centres who were very ethical in their dealings. Naadiguruonweb is in its infancy and given time i am certain that it will streamline its processes which will surely put Naadi Josiyam on notice around the

world. I will not be surprised to find the website having its own Naadi leaf bank and resident readers within years down the track. With so many proffessionals behind it the site may run the best Naadi centre anywhere in the world. Only proactive feedbacks and experiences such as below may help make Naadiguruonweb a better experience for leaf seekers in future. My two paisa worth finishes here......... madhusudan sadagopan <madhusudan01 > wrote: Ladies and Gentlemen,I have been waiting for an opportunity to write my experiences about naadi.I had promised a video documentary but didn’t deliver as I felt it was more a propaganda for the naadi reader. The intention was to document the naadi process and

enlighten interested naadi seekers and not to advertise any particular naadi.Well anyway god had something else on his mind...I started my trip from Chennai on my trusty bike (that was solely to enjoy my beautiful land) early in the morning and reached vaideeswaran koil in about 6 hours.I directly went to meet the naadi reader to begin my documentation. Though he was pleased to meet me, he I felt, was reluctant or not prepared to start. Anyway by afternoon I began to feel that I wasted my time coming here. At that moment, a gentleman from France happened to arrive in the center and was probably waiting to have his naadi read. The delay was due the lack of a translator and I subsequently volunteered to translate his naadi.Later I came to know that this particular gentleman had gone to several naadi readers to have his naadi read. In fact I was amazed at his knowledge about the whole process. The naadi was found but we had

to provide the names of the gentleman's father, mother and wife etc before. This we had to do because the naadi reader was putting question to me about how many letters and explained to me that the Tamil letters are different, I lacked the adequate knowledge to translate English letters to Tamil , so to avoid any more confusion we told him the names and what I was surprised by was the accuracy of the place of birth as it was very different than the obvious (France). Anyway, I translated the whole reading and the gentleman was very satisfied.Later we went another naadi which he had seen before and which was by a different rishi. He told me that though the past birth was different in both the naadis but the future was about 70% accurate. But he was not so much satisfied as the naadi reader was asking 9000rs to do the pariharam.We went to see this naadi reader to photograph the gentleman's naadi leaf but we could not as the naadi reader did not have

time and was busy etc. Now, that’s something we encountered in all the naadi centers... some told us that they cannot photograph because they were busy and some told us that it is not accepted by the rishi. We were told in one place that they had to throw the naadi in the sea!! That was the command of the rishi.The gentleman was keen to photograph the naadi leaf and have it read by an expert. Unfortunately we could not do that.Eventually the gentleman spent a small fortune to do the pariharams.A interesting incident took place here. As the locals recognized us as naadi seekers, one of them approached us and advised us to see our naadi in the temple itself (vaideeswaran koil). They told us that the charge was only 100rs. It seems that the naadi leaves by all the rishis are always in the temple. There is an arrangement by the families of the naadi readers to circulate these naadis leaves among themselves according to the particular

rishis their forefathers have been reading. Quite an arrangement!But we had enough and left for Chennai. The gentleman from France was still very keen to visit other naadis in Chennai and again I volunteered to accompany him (for translation) and also to learn a bit.In Chennai we visited four naadi centers. Two of them in T Nagar one in Tambaram and another in Chromepet.Our first visit was to a naadi reader in T Nagar whose guru is associated with the Tambaram center. Truly I was amazed at the similarity of this to the ones in vaideeswaran koil. They were all very similar barring some differences between the time of events, and also all the past birth readings were different. As I was the translator I was zapped initially by the accuracy and naturally began to feel blessed to witness the readings.This naadi reader did not ask for any particular fees (like others before) and said he would accept anything given to him.

Naturally the other gentleman was satisfied and he paid 1000rs for each chapter.Though the general chapter in all the three naadi readings were similar, we noticed some difference here and there. Over all it was satisfying.After this we went another naadi reader near the TNagar bus stand. The gentleman wanted to see for his friend who was in France so he called him up and translation began. We were not satisfied with the reading and felt this was totally way off and money for pariharam asked was 34000rs. The next day we had appointment with the one in Chromepet and this particular naadi reader told us that they do not have the naadi leaf. The last one in Tambaram could not be seen as they insisted that we come in the morning by 8:00am to register. And as the gentleman was short of time we had to give it up.Overall we visited 6 naadi centers in two days and out of which 3 were on dot regarding the general life reading, one was way

off, one did not have the naadi and the last one we never had the opportunity to see. I was directly involved with two of them (by different rishis) for one seekers.And which was very similar. So 3/3 correct ! Thats quite good i must say. Now, iam sry for not giving the names of the naadi readers and the centers. I do not want to advertise those centers but I can assure u some of the centers have been correctly identified as genuine by Shri Shashikant Oak ji. The best I can do will be to suggest to the gentleman (France) to participate in this discussion. The things I observed were:-1- You don’t need to provide them any info beforehand. Through the internet like naadiguruonweb.org, where you are asked to give information which is only to reduce the time to search the leaf. To search the right leaf you have to be present to guide the reader with tidbit info about yourself. When he is satisfied

that all information match, you have found your naadi! But it is different through the net or conventional mail service. It is difficult and time consuming for you and the reader to identify your naadi.2- The prices differ from person to person. If you have money, these naadi readers are hounds and they will smell it. Believe me, they, I find are the ones who are bringing the names of the rishis to disrepute, all they want is money. Though the readings are correct in some of the centers, the pariharam part of giving money to reader is bogus! The rishis never want your money what they want is that you visit the temple stated and support it and give in charity and redeem yourself by yourself.If you are an Indian it could be 3000rs and if you’re a foreigner it will be 30000rs. I felt very disgusted by the conduct of the naadi readers. The want only money! What I suggest is that you do the pariharam yourself and forget about giving to

these chaps. They are only brokers! (Please forgive my outburst)Yes, but that also depends person to person. You can choose to give if the reader is good and holy. But please remember that if you choose not give to the reader the rishis will not be angry with you. They are incarnate of divinity and they are our father and mother. They will never harm us whatsoever! 3- Naadi if read by a genuine reader can save a suffering and confused soul. They guide us to the right path and caution us too of any impending danger.4- Past birth readings differ. 5- The time difference between one naadi with the other. For eg, if your marriage date in one naadi is 26 the other could be 27 or 28. Some predict soon and some late. Otherwise all predictions are generally similar. 6- One particular thing I noticed is that you horoscope is made without your giving and details about your date of birth etc. Sometimes the lagna is also not identified

but the placements of the planets in the chart are accurate. Surely many members would have noticed that. 7. Pariharam is effective... especially if it is to visit temples and conduct pujas or to feed poor people. 8. Some people are given some mantras by the rishi as upadesha and they are very potent. Mostly the reader will suggest that their priest will conduct the puja for one mandala (44 days) for deeksha kandam. This is where the naadi seekers should be intelligent to extract some info about the puja.Though the puja is effective it is the greatest source for the reader to earn money. I have no idea about where these people conduct puja and I don’t know if they really do the puja. The naadiguruonweb.org can organize some priests to conduct these pujas at a reasonable cost. But I guess that it will not be acceptable by the naadi reader.I was told to do a puja which I knew, so I just told the naadi reader that

I will do it later. I do the puja myself and I am happy about it. 9. Lastly I feel greatly for some of the souls who are desperately seeking help but these naadi readers are sitting between them and the rishis.I just don’t understand why the the rishis choose these greedy people to be the bearers of divine solutions. My heart bleeds for those suffering souls!Now all said and done! Though naadiguruonweb.org is an excellent endeavor to help people and to bring the blessings of the rishis to them, however it should not become a medium to make the naadi readers affluent.The naadiguruonweb.org should display standard rates and rope in the genuine readers and take commission from them. And why not, where will it will get money to run the website plus they can also make a community of priest who could conduct pujas (deeksha kandam) for the seekers at a nominal price. They have to be very assertive. I mean the

whole pupose to setup this website loses its value if naadiguruonweb.org ends up doing free advertising for the naadi readers.They are fleecing people and I have seen that enough, the best service naadiguruonweb.org can do is to bridge the gap between the rishis and souls in need. I have written a lot and I don’t want to bore the esteemed members more, but I sincerely hope and pray that the great & loving rishis really do something about the present trend, probabaly take all the naadi leaves and organize it in one central place so that their initial purpose is not overshadowed by selfish motives. Regards,Ms ________Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email address.

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Thank you mr Rohit, mr Sunny and "aries".That is exactly the purpose of this forum - to share experiences and your two paisa contribution can save thousands of rupees and avoid causing mental agony to a seeker.I agree questions like ‘does rishi mentioned amount of money’ looks silly, however .. The question is very apt. The rates changes so fast as experienced by mr Sunny. We really need to know the truth behind this. May be tax doesn’t apply to them as they serving

the public and passing the information from the Great Maharishis to the general public.True service is selfless service ... nadi readers are getting in return name, fame and money. Not that iam against the naadi reader to be economically well established, i just dont like cheats and liars. Just wonder, through all these visits, have you people ever thought of asking the Naadi readers, about the authenticity of leaf, as you were finding it everywhere.I went to two places and found that the content itself was enough to judge the authenticity of the leaf. I was doing a mantra and the sage correctly indentified it. I was fortunate to know the genuine ones but there are many others who have not. They need to be vigilant and well informed. They also told me that the original is not with them but they have

the ones which were copied in Tamil a century ago. And they currently have only one hundred bundles left with them. I am giving below my thoughts about various issues/

questions being raised in this forum which lose their relevance due to

repititions. To start with: "Do rishis prescribe only remedies or amount of money also? Do Naadi readers pay taxes?", etc. Without any prejudice to anyone, let each of us ask ourselves: What is this forum about?Allow members to share experiences and discuss issues related to naadi astrology. a) To my mind it is to add value to the thought process of each member.

To raise our thinking to a higher level than the existing level and

perhaps do some philosophical thinking as to how the ancient rishis

could enable themselves to do such kind of accurate/ not so accurate

(debatable) predictions. Was there any technology or science behind it

or were they endowed with Divine powers?Nobody is competent to question the abilities of our sages. We are not even discussing about it, so why bring it up?b) Take benefit of the "so much research" that Wg Cdr Oak and Inderjeet

Sahni ji or other members of the group have done so that not all of us

have to undergo this kind of rigour again. To a considerable extent

this is being achieved. And all these benefits which we are reaping

with the efforts of Wg Cdr Oak and other experienced members of the

group, are with zero/ minimum investments of the young / new members.Do not judge people's experience on the basis of the number of the post they make or their age etc. Every member has contributed when he/she signs into this forum, they have invested their time in sharing, learning and passing the info posted here.Should we really be bothered about whether rishis prescribed the money

or not? I do not think that Naadi reading is hobby of any Naadi reader

as much as medicine or surgery is the hobby of a doctor. Exceptions and

extreme cases are there. We do not wish to generalise by taking extreme

cases. A millionaire who is not in need of money may make medicine/

surgery/ Naadi reading his or her passion. Those cases are one in lacs/

millions. If a Naadi reader charges Rs.1000/- for general kandam, he is

dedicating his time and resources for that. For which he must have

spent years gaining that kind of experience. Moreover a Naadi centre is

not being run by one person or on Govt. grants. Many people (at least

3-4) support one Naadi centre. I would say Rs.1000 is still cheap. At

least there is a higher probability of finding the truth about oneself

rather than go to quack astrolgers and end up with no results. If Naadi

reading is offered for free, perhaps many of us will start doubting the

efficacy of the Naadi centre and start doubting as to how are these

people running the centre. Is there some political angle behind it?

There must be some ulterior motive and may be these guys will ask us to

shell out more money during pujas, etc. Or perhaps we would have stood

in queue to get our turn after 3-4 years (being free) and perhaps govt.

would have made amendments in issuing visas to Chinese or American or

Europeans to restrict the no. of people entering India.For u 1000 rs may mean nothing that does not apply to the general public. You may not be bothered why the sages have/have not mentioned but iam definitely concerned about it. If you can provide proof that the sages have mentioned the amount then present it here please. Let us not beat around the bush. We need facts.We say that our rishis said this and that - which means we have full

faith in our rishis and we go by their dictum - but when it comes to

money we feel our rishis were not capable enough to predict the

inflation rates in India

or recession in the US. When we hear our names being taken out of Naadi

leaves, we feel - Oh a miracle! But why is he charging me for a miracle

which some rishi had predicted. This is wrong and unjustified because

that time value of money

was 1/hundred thousand of the value of money now. I can't pay this much

for this miracle because the Naadi leaf is not the original one.But here we are not talking about the reading when it comes true. The difficulty is when it does not. People have paid more than asked because many things came right.What about the people who have been cheated? Try to visualize the agony of a person seeking answers for his problem and is cheated by a naadi reader. The idea is to flush out the fake ones and identify the genuine ones. Lets show empathy here for those people and help with info which can prevent fraud.This is what we must seek from this group and not frivolous facts like

X charged this much, he is a fraud and Y charged this much, he is good.

(Sure we must be cautious and such information sharing can alert group

members). I pay taxes but Naadi centres do not pay taxes. Should we be

concerned about these issues? I do not think we should be because Naadi

readers do not make predictions about us whether we should be paying

taxes or not and they do not put to misuse any information in the

predictions that they read for us. They are rendering services to

general public and these services are not regulated, for which they

charge varying amounts. Since these services are not regulated, we also

have the right to negotiate the price with them. Not paying tax is a crime , u know it i know it and our esteemed members know about it.Paying taxes makes you accountable before the law. If the seeker has registered an office(naadi) , he has to maintain records and provide provide bills.If the reading is incorrect or way off the seeker can approach the court and prosecute the reader for fraud on the basis of the bill.Now they dont give bill because they dont pay taxes. Tax department at one particular of time will focus its attention on the naadi readers, like it or not.I feel we should focus on larger issues where we can advance the knowledge of this group. You are right ! Start a topic and contribute.Regards,ms

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Thanks Mr. Madhusudan for your reply. I am relatively new to Naadi and also to this group. My expereince with Naadi has been good so far and as far as I am concerned, from your reply, it has been made clear to me that this is not the group that I am looking for. Regards.madhusudan sadagopan <madhusudan01 wrote: Thank you mr Rohit, mr Sunny and "aries".That is exactly the purpose of this forum - to share

experiences and your two paisa contribution can save thousands of rupees and avoid causing mental agony to a seeker.I agree questions like ‘does rishi mentioned amount of money’ looks silly, however .. The question is very apt. The rates changes so fast as experienced by mr Sunny. We really need to know the truth behind this. May be tax doesn’t apply to them as they serving the public and passing the information from the Great Maharishis to the general public.True service is selfless service ... nadi readers are getting in return name, fame and money.

Not that iam against the naadi reader to be economically well established, i just dont like cheats and liars. Just wonder, through all these visits, have you people ever thought of asking the Naadi readers, about the authenticity of leaf, as you were finding it everywhere.I went to two places and found that the content itself was enough to judge the authenticity of the leaf. I was doing a mantra and the sage correctly indentified it. I was fortunate to know the genuine ones but there are many others who have not. They need to be vigilant and well informed. They also told me that the original is not with them but they have the ones which were copied in Tamil a century ago. And they currently have only one hundred bundles left with them. I am giving below my thoughts

about various issues/ questions being raised in this forum which lose their relevance due to repititions. To start with: "Do rishis prescribe only remedies or amount of money also? Do Naadi readers pay taxes?", etc. Without any prejudice to anyone, let each of us ask ourselves: What is this forum about?Allow members to share experiences and discuss issues related to naadi astrology. a) To my mind it is to add value to the thought process of each member. To raise our thinking to a higher level than the existing level and perhaps do some philosophical thinking as to how the ancient rishis

could enable themselves to do such kind of accurate/ not so accurate (debatable) predictions. Was there any technology or science behind it or were they endowed with Divine powers?Nobody is competent to question the abilities of our sages. We are not even discussing about it, so why bring it up?b) Take benefit of the "so much research" that Wg Cdr Oak and Inderjeet Sahni ji or other members of the group have done so that not all of us have to undergo this kind of rigour again. To a considerable extent this is being achieved. And all these benefits which we are reaping with the efforts of Wg Cdr Oak and other experienced members of the group, are with zero/ minimum investments of the young / new members.Do not judge people's experience on the basis of the number of the post they make or their age etc. Every member has contributed when he/she signs into this forum, they have

invested their time in sharing, learning and passing the info posted here.Should we really be bothered about whether rishis prescribed the money or not? I do not think that Naadi reading is hobby of any Naadi reader as much as medicine or surgery is the hobby of a doctor. Exceptions and extreme cases are there. We do not wish to generalise by taking extreme cases. A millionaire who is not in need of money may make medicine/ surgery/ Naadi reading his or her passion. Those cases are one in lacs/ millions. If a Naadi reader charges Rs.1000/- for general kandam, he is dedicating his time and resources for that. For which he must have spent years gaining that kind of experience. Moreover a Naadi centre is not being run by one person or on Govt. grants. Many people (at least 3-4) support one Naadi centre. I would say Rs.1000 is still cheap. At least there is a higher probability of finding the truth about

oneself rather than go to quack astrolgers and end up with no results. If Naadi reading is offered for free, perhaps many of us will start doubting the efficacy of the Naadi centre and start doubting as to how are these people running the centre. Is there some political angle behind it? There must be some ulterior motive and may be these guys will ask us to shell out more money during pujas, etc. Or perhaps we would have stood in queue to get our turn after 3-4 years (being free) and perhaps govt. would have made amendments in issuing visas to Chinese or American or Europeans to restrict the no. of people entering India.For u 1000 rs may mean nothing that does not apply to the general public. You may not be bothered why the sages have/have not

mentioned but iam definitely concerned about it. If you can provide proof that the sages have mentioned the amount then present it here please. Let us not beat around the bush. We need facts.We say that our rishis said this and that - which means we have full faith in our rishis and we go by their dictum - but when it comes to money we feel our rishis were not capable enough to predict the inflation rates in India or recession in the US. When we hear our names being taken out of Naadi leaves, we feel - Oh a miracle! But why is he charging me for a miracle which some rishi had predicted. This is wrong and unjustified because that time value of money was 1/hundred thousand of the value of money now. I can't pay this much for this miracle because the Naadi leaf is not the original one.But here we are not talking about the reading when it comes true. The difficulty is when it does not. People have paid more than asked because many things came right.What about the people who have been cheated? Try to visualize the agony of a person seeking answers for his problem and is cheated by a naadi reader. The idea is to flush out the fake ones and identify the genuine ones. Lets show empathy here for those people and help with info which can prevent fraud.This is what we must seek from this group and not frivolous facts like X charged this much, he is a fraud and Y charged this much, he is good.

(Sure we must be cautious and such information sharing can alert group members). I pay taxes but Naadi centres do not pay taxes. Should we be concerned about these issues? I do not think we should be because Naadi readers do not make predictions about us whether we should be paying taxes or not and they do not put to misuse any information in the predictions that they read for us. They are rendering services to general public and these services are not regulated, for which they charge varying amounts. Since these services are not regulated, we also have the right to negotiate the price with them. Not paying tax is a crime , u know it i know it and our esteemed members know about it.Paying taxes makes you accountable before the law. If the seeker has registered an office(naadi) , he has to maintain records and provide provide bills.If the reading is incorrect or way off

the seeker can approach the court and prosecute the reader for fraud on the basis of the bill.Now they dont give bill because they dont pay taxes. Tax department at one particular of time will focus its attention on the naadi readers, like it or not.I feel we should focus on larger issues where we can advance the knowledge of this group. You are right ! Start a topic and contribute.Regards,ms Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.

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Hi

 

It would be nice to know your naadi experience! Please do share!

 

Regards,

Richa

 

, Naveen Vidyarthi

<naveenvidyarthi wrote:

>

> Thanks Mr. Madhusudan for your reply. I am relatively new to Naadi

and also to this group. My expereince with Naadi has been good so far

and as far as I am concerned, from your reply, it has been made clear

to me that this is not the group that I am looking for.

>

> Regards.

>

> madhusudan sadagopan <madhusudan01 wrote:

> Thank you mr Rohit, mr Sunny and " aries " .

>

> That is exactly the purpose of this forum - to share experiences

and your two paisa contribution can save thousands of rupees and

avoid causing mental agony to a seeker.

>

>

> I agree questions like ‘does rishi mentioned amount of money’

looks silly, however ..

>

> The question is very apt. The rates changes so fast as

experienced by mr Sunny.

> We really need to know the truth behind this.

>

>

> May be tax doesn’t apply to them as they serving the public and

passing the information from the Great Maharishis to the general

public.

>

> True service is selfless service ... nadi readers are getting in

return name, fame and money.

>

> Not that iam against the naadi reader to be economically well

established, i just dont like cheats and liars.

>

> Just wonder, through all these visits, have you people ever thought

of asking the Naadi readers, about the authenticity of leaf, as you

were finding it everywhere.

>

> I went to two places and found that the content itself was enough

to judge the authenticity of the leaf. I was doing a mantra and the

sage correctly indentified it. I was fortunate to know the genuine

ones but there are many others who have not. They need to be vigilant

and well informed. They also told me that the original is not with

them but they have the ones which were copied in Tamil a century ago.

And they currently have only one hundred bundles left with them.

>

>

> I am giving below my thoughts about various issues/ questions

being raised in this forum which lose their relevance due to

repititions.

>

> To start with: " Do rishis prescribe only remedies or amount of

money also? Do Naadi readers pay taxes? " , etc.

>

> Without any prejudice to anyone, let each of us ask ourselves:

What is this forum about?

>

> Allow members to share experiences and discuss issues related to

naadi astrology.

>

> a) To my mind it is to add value to the thought process of each

member. To raise our thinking to a higher level than the existing

level and perhaps do some philosophical thinking as to how the

ancient rishis could enable themselves to do such kind of accurate/

not so accurate (debatable) predictions. Was there any technology or

science behind it or were they endowed with Divine powers?

>

> Nobody is competent to question the abilities of our sages. We are

not even discussing about it, so why bring it up?

>

> b) Take benefit of the " so much research " that Wg Cdr Oak and

Inderjeet Sahni ji or other members of the group have done so that

not all of us have to undergo this kind of rigour again. To a

considerable extent this is being achieved. And all these benefits

which we are reaping with the efforts of Wg Cdr Oak and other

experienced members of the group, are with zero/ minimum investments

of the young / new members.

>

> Do not judge people's experience on the basis of the number of the

post they make or their age etc. Every member has contributed when

he/she signs into this forum, they have invested their time in

sharing, learning and passing the info posted here.

>

> Should we really be bothered about whether rishis prescribed the

money or not? I do not think that Naadi reading is hobby of any Naadi

reader as much as medicine or surgery is the hobby of a doctor.

Exceptions and extreme cases are there. We do not wish to generalise

by taking extreme cases. A millionaire who is not in need of money

may make medicine/ surgery/ Naadi reading his or her passion. Those

cases are one in lacs/ millions. If a Naadi reader charges Rs.1000/-

for general kandam, he is dedicating his time and resources for that.

For which he must have spent years gaining that kind of experience.

Moreover a Naadi centre is not being run by one person or on Govt.

grants. Many people (at least 3-4) support one Naadi centre. I would

say Rs.1000 is still cheap. At least there is a higher probability of

finding the truth about oneself rather than go to quack astrolgers

and end up with no results. If Naadi reading is offered for free,

perhaps many of us will start doubting

> the efficacy of the Naadi centre and start doubting as to how are

these people running the centre. Is there some political angle behind

it? There must be some ulterior motive and may be these guys will ask

us to shell out more money during pujas, etc. Or perhaps we would

have stood in queue to get our turn after 3-4 years (being free) and

perhaps govt. would have made amendments in issuing visas to Chinese

or American or Europeans to restrict the no. of people entering India.

>

> For u 1000 rs may mean nothing that does not apply to the general

public. You may not be bothered why the sages have/have not

mentioned but iam definitely concerned about it.

>

> If you can provide proof that the sages have mentioned the amount

then present it here please. Let us not beat around the bush. We need

facts.

>

> We say that our rishis said this and that - which means we have

full faith in our rishis and we go by their dictum - but when it

comes to money we feel our rishis were not capable enough to predict

the inflation rates in India or recession in the US. When we hear our

names being taken out of Naadi leaves, we feel - Oh a miracle! But

why is he charging me for a miracle which some rishi had predicted.

This is wrong and unjustified because that time value of money was

1/hundred thousand of the value of money now. I can't pay this much

for this miracle because the Naadi leaf is not the original one.

>

>

> But here we are not talking about the reading when it comes true.

The difficulty is when it does not. People have paid more than asked

because many things came right.

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> What about the people who have been cheated? Try to visualize the

agony of a person seeking answers for his problem and is cheated by a

naadi reader. The idea is to flush out the fake ones and identify the

genuine ones.

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> Lets show empathy here for those people and help with info which

can prevent fraud.

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> This is what we must seek from this group and not frivolous facts

like X charged this much, he is a fraud and Y charged this much, he

is good. (Sure we must be cautious and such information sharing can

alert group members). I pay taxes but Naadi centres do not pay taxes.

Should we be concerned about these issues? I do not think we should

be because Naadi readers do not make predictions about us whether we

should be paying taxes or not and they do not put to misuse any

information in the predictions that they read for us. They are

rendering services to general public and these services are not

regulated, for which they charge varying amounts. Since these

services are not regulated, we also have the right to negotiate the

price with them.

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> Not paying tax is a crime , u know it i know it and our esteemed

members know about it.

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> Paying taxes makes you accountable before the law. If the seeker

has registered an office(naadi) , he has to maintain records and

provide provide bills.

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> If the reading is incorrect or way off the seeker can approach the

court and prosecute the reader for fraud on the basis of the bill.

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> Now they dont give bill because they dont pay taxes.

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> Tax department at one particular of time will focus its attention

on the naadi readers, like it or not.

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> I feel we should focus on larger issues where we can advance the

knowledge of this group.

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> You are right ! Start a topic and contribute.

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> Regards,

> ms

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