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From: kuttinguruDate: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 01:34:20 +0530Re: My experiences and a little about naadiguruonweb.org - Please read

 

 

 

I think this community with so many posts every month and also having people who claimed to have done research on have done nothing to bring out the truth behind .

 

1.there is not even a single case where a person has photocopied his leaf containing his details

 

2.If it was all probability,then getting ur leaf (in the first batch of leaves-say before 10 qns asked)shud have happened to any one of the 2000 members in this group.

 

I have visited 2 centres,one in vaidheeswarankoil and one agathiya nadi in MMDA colony and both contained different information,

 

3.can any nadi reader findout the lagna of the individual without prior asking in QN answer session-whether born in day or night time.

 

4.Why does the naadi reader himself goes inside to bring another batch of leaves?can some other assistant help him by bringing him and give another batch of leaves

 

I will give the answer for this question.the naadi reader finds our Date of birth through his questions and he goes inside and refers his panchangam for planetary position.

 

5.supposedly claiming that they read our fingerprint is a fake .each naadicenters calls our fingerprint with differnt names.Instead we can go for palmistry analysis where whole hand is read as it is more logical and various books have been written with real life cases.I also take this opportunity to introduce to u a new website www.predictguru.com where free palm analysis is given for those who are interested.

 

disclaimer.It is not my site and u can post comments about the site if u like/dislike in that site itself in chatbox.

 

 

 

regards

 

Dr.Guru

On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 11:59 PM, Naveen Vidyarthi <naveenvidyarthi > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear friends

 

I am giving below my thoughts about various issues/ questions being raised in this forum which lose their relevance due to repititions.

 

To start with: "Do rishis prescribe only remedies or amount of money also? Do Naadi readers pay taxes?", etc.

 

Without any prejudice to anyone, let each of us ask ourselves: What is this forum about?

 

a) To my mind it is to add value to the thought process of each member. To raise our thinking to a higher level than the existing level and perhaps do some philosophical thinking as to how the ancient rishis could enable themselves to do such kind of accurate/ not so accurate (debatable) predictions. Was there any technology or science behind it or were they endowed with Divine powers?

 

b) Take benefit of the "so much research" that Wg Cdr Oak and Inderjeet Sahni ji or other members of the group have done so that not all of us have to undergo this kind of rigour again. To a considerable extent this is being achieved. And all these benefits which we are reaping with the efforts of Wg Cdr Oak and other experienced members of the group, are with zero/ minimum investments of the young / new members.

 

Should we really be bothered about whether rishis prescribed the money or not? I do not think that Naadi reading is hobby of any Naadi reader as much as medicine or surgery is the hobby of a doctor. Exceptions and extreme cases are there. We do not wish to generalise by taking extreme cases. A millionaire who is not in need of money may make medicine/ surgery/ Naadi reading his or her passion. Those cases are one in lacs/ millions. If a Naadi reader charges Rs.1000/- for general kandam, he is dedicating his time and resources for that. For which he must have spent years gaining that kind of experience. Moreover a Naadi centre is not being run by one person or on Govt. grants. Many people (at least 3-4) support one Naadi centre. I would say Rs.1000 is still cheap. At least there is a higher probability of finding the truth about oneself rather than go to quack astrolgers and end up with no results. If Naadi reading is offered for free, perhaps many of us will start doubting the efficacy of the Naadi centre and start doubting as to how are these people running the centre. Is there some political angle behind it? There must be some ulterior motive and may be these guys will ask us to shell out more money during pujas, etc. Or perhaps we would have stood in queue to get our turn after 3-4 years (being free) and perhaps govt. would have made amendments in issuing visas to Chinese or American or Europeans to restrict the no. of people entering India.

 

We say that our rishis said this and that - which means we have full faith in our rishis and we go by their dictum - but when it comes to money we feel our rishis were not capable enough to predict the inflation rates in India or recession in the US. When we hear our names being taken out of Naadi leaves, we feel - Oh a miracle! But why is he charging me for a miracle which some rishi had predicted. This is wrong and unjustified because that time value of money was 1/hundred thousand of the value of money now. I can't pay this much for this miracle because the Naadi leaf is not the original one.

 

Should we put labels on pandit X as "Fraud" or Y Naadi reader as a cheat. Friends, there is no formal school of Naadi teaching and therefore through this informal school of Naadi learning, many Naadi readers must have passed and some of them would have excelled and some of them would have failed. Yet many of them who would have failed claim themselves to be passed and because they know the fact about themselves they try to make maxiumum money out of each client because they know that sooner or later the truth will be out. If we are prudent Naadi seekers and we pass judgement in this group, we should try to put our judgement to test by assessing these Naadi readers at the time of the reading itself.

 

Please be advised that if fake currency notes worth billions can be in circulation, Naadi leaves can also get copied. If replicas of Monalisa paintings can be made, why cannot copies of Naadi leaves be made. And not all of us have seen the origionals so we cannot even find out whether it is a copy or origional. By the way, is making a copy of a Naadi leaf crime? There is no law which prevents copying of a Naadi leaf. May be a few years down the line, we will find scanned Naadi leaves available on the net and you can just put your thumb impression on the computer screen and there is computerised thumb impression matching and bingo, you get your prediction though a software programme which translates Old Tamil version straight to a language of your choice.

 

Charges to be paid through credit card and minimum charges for General Kandam - Rs.1 lacs. I bet this can happen and everyone will still pay and make a hue and cry about such abnormally high prices. If you all agree that this can happen in future, let us appreciate the efforts made by Wg Cdr Oak and other senior members of the group to bring Naadi knowledge to such a platform/ level and that too with no charges to any member of the group.

 

Instead of labeling Naadi readers as cheats/ frauds (some of them are/ may be), or to categorise thes Naadi readers as: 1. Excellent, 2. Good, 3. Satisfactory, 4. Poor, I feel the larger issue that remains unaddressed is whether such capabilities of Naadi writings / predictions can be replicated in present era. Our rishis made some predictions about people of future generations some thousand years back. We are enjoying benefits of those predictions. We are getting amazed by such predictions. Now what. Do we continue getting amazed, do we continue labeling Naadi readers are frauds / money making machines?

 

WHAT NEXT????!!!!!

 

How can we take such advanced predictions forward? How can we use them to channelise our resources and efforts towards some hidden mesages in these predictions?

 

Can we make a bigger vision out of these predictions? Can we translate all these predictions to get a bigger prediction?

 

This is what we must seek from this group and not frivolous facts like X charged this much, he is a fraud and Y charged this much, he is good. (Sure we must be cautious and such information sharing can alert group members). I pay taxes but Naadi centres do not pay taxes. Should we be concerned about these issues? I do not think we should be because Naadi readers do not make predictions about us whether we should be paying taxes or not and they do not put to misuse any information in the predictions that they read for us. They are rendering services to general public and these services are not regulated, for which they charge varying amounts. Since these services are not regulated, we also have the right to negotiate the price with them.

 

I feel we should focus on larger issues where we can advance the knowledge of this group.

 

Thanks.

 

 

nitin jain <ecstacymaster > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

one question to all .

 

do rishis prescribe only remedies or amount of money also.

i think amount is decided by reader.

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi everyone this is my first comment so please bear with me if I make any mistakes or unknowingly upset anyone. I have been interested in astrology for a long time although I am still a novice. I have used mainly the western zodiac and am very interested in learning more about the palm leaves. I saw the line about predictguru.com and had a quick look at their site. Can anybody tell me if they have used them and what results they have had. Thanking you and kind regards, Con Cominos http://australianpathwaysmigration.blogspot.com/ Hariharan Subramanian <hariharan_sm wrote: http://www.shankerstudy.com/ is on Bhrigu naadi System. But i don't think he has palm leaves.Thank you, Sincerly, Subramanian Hariharan From: kuttinguru Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 01:34:20 +0530Re: My experiences and a little about naadiguruonweb.org - Please read I think this community with so many posts every month and also having people who claimed to have done research on

have done nothing to bring out the truth behind . 1.there is not even a single case where a person has photocopied his leaf containing his details 2.If it was all probability,then getting ur leaf (in the first batch of leaves-say before 10 qns asked)shud have happened to any one of the 2000 members in this group. I have visited 2 centres,one in vaidheeswarankoil and one agathiya nadi in MMDA colony and both contained different information, 3.can any nadi reader findout the lagna of the individual without prior asking in QN answer session-whether born in day or night time. 4.Why does the naadi reader himself goes inside to bring another batch of leaves?can some other assistant help him by bringing him and give another batch of leaves I will give the answer

for this question.the naadi reader finds our Date of birth through his questions and he goes inside and refers his panchangam for planetary position. 5.supposedly claiming that they read our fingerprint is a fake .each naadicenters calls our fingerprint with differnt names.Instead we can go for palmistry analysis where whole hand is read as it is more logical and various books have been written with real life cases.I also take this opportunity to introduce to u a new website www.predictguru.com where free palm analysis is given for those who are interested. disclaimer.It is not my site and u can post comments about the site if u like/dislike in that site itself in chatbox. regards Dr.Guru On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at

11:59 PM, Naveen Vidyarthi <naveenvidyarthi > wrote: Dear friends I am giving below my thoughts about various issues/ questions being raised in this forum which lose their relevance due to repititions. To start with: "Do rishis prescribe only remedies or amount of money also? Do Naadi readers pay taxes?", etc. Without any prejudice to anyone, let each of us ask ourselves: What is this forum about? a) To my mind it is to add value to the thought process of each member. To raise our thinking to a higher level than the existing level and perhaps do some philosophical thinking as to how the ancient rishis could

enable themselves to do such kind of accurate/ not so accurate (debatable) predictions. Was there any technology or science behind it or were they endowed with Divine powers? b) Take benefit of the "so much research" that Wg Cdr Oak and Inderjeet Sahni ji or other members of the group have done so that not all of us have to undergo this kind of rigour again. To a considerable extent this is being achieved. And all these benefits which we are reaping with the efforts of Wg Cdr Oak and other experienced members of the group, are with zero/ minimum investments of the young / new members. Should we really be bothered about whether rishis prescribed the money or not? I do not think that Naadi reading is hobby of any Naadi reader as much as medicine or surgery is the hobby of a doctor. Exceptions and extreme cases are there. We do not wish to generalise by taking extreme cases. A millionaire who is

not in need of money may make medicine/ surgery/ Naadi reading his or her passion. Those cases are one in lacs/ millions. If a Naadi reader charges Rs.1000/- for general kandam, he is dedicating his time and resources for that. For which he must have spent years gaining that kind of experience. Moreover a Naadi centre is not being run by one person or on Govt. grants. Many people (at least 3-4) support one Naadi centre. I would say Rs.1000 is still cheap. At least there is a higher probability of finding the truth about oneself rather than go to quack astrolgers and end up with no results. If Naadi reading is offered for free, perhaps many of us will start doubting the efficacy of the Naadi centre and start doubting as to how are these people running the centre. Is there some political angle behind it? There must be some ulterior motive and may be these guys will ask us to shell out more money during pujas, etc. Or perhaps we would have stood in queue to get our

turn after 3-4 years (being free) and perhaps govt. would have made amendments in issuing visas to Chinese or American or Europeans to restrict the no. of people entering India. We say that our rishis said this and that - which means we have full faith in our rishis and we go by their dictum - but when it comes to money we feel our rishis were not capable enough to predict the inflation rates in India or recession in the US. When we hear our names being taken out of Naadi leaves, we feel - Oh a miracle! But why is he charging me for a miracle which some rishi had predicted. This is wrong and unjustified because that time value of money was 1/hundred thousand of the value of money now. I can't pay this much for this miracle because the Naadi leaf is not the original one. Should we put labels on pandit X as "Fraud" or Y Naadi reader as a cheat. Friends, there is no formal school of Naadi teaching and

therefore through this informal school of Naadi learning, many Naadi readers must have passed and some of them would have excelled and some of them would have failed. Yet many of them who would have failed claim themselves to be passed and because they know the fact about themselves they try to make maxiumum money out of each client because they know that sooner or later the truth will be out. If we are prudent Naadi seekers and we pass judgement in this group, we should try to put our judgement to test by assessing these Naadi readers at the time of the reading itself. Please be advised that if fake currency notes worth billions can be in circulation, Naadi leaves can also get copied. If replicas of Monalisa paintings can be made, why cannot copies of Naadi leaves be made. And not all of us have seen the origionals so we cannot even find out whether it is a copy or origional. By the way, is making a copy of a Naadi leaf crime? There is

no law which prevents copying of a Naadi leaf. May be a few years down the line, we will find scanned Naadi leaves available on the net and you can just put your thumb impression on the computer screen and there is computerised thumb impression matching and bingo, you get your prediction though a software programme which translates Old Tamil version straight to a language of your choice. Charges to be paid through credit card and minimum charges for General Kandam - Rs.1 lacs. I bet this can happen and everyone will still pay and make a hue and cry about such abnormally high prices. If you all agree that this can happen in future, let us appreciate the efforts made by Wg Cdr Oak and other senior members of the group to bring Naadi knowledge to such a platform/ level and that too with no charges to any member of the group. Instead of labeling Naadi readers as cheats/ frauds (some of them are/ may be), or

to categorise thes Naadi readers as: 1. Excellent, 2. Good, 3. Satisfactory, 4. Poor, I feel the larger issue that remains unaddressed is whether such capabilities of Naadi writings / predictions can be replicated in present era. Our rishis made some predictions about people of future generations some thousand years back. We are enjoying benefits of those predictions. We are getting amazed by such predictions. Now what. Do we continue getting amazed, do we continue labeling Naadi readers are frauds / money making machines? WHAT NEXT????!!!!! How can we take such advanced predictions forward? How can we use them to channelise our resources and efforts towards some hidden mesages in these predictions? Can we make a bigger vision out of these predictions? Can we translate all these predictions to get a bigger prediction? This is what we must seek from this group and not frivolous facts like X charged this much, he is a fraud and Y charged this much, he is good. (Sure we must be cautious and such information sharing can alert group members). I pay taxes but Naadi centres do not pay taxes. Should we be concerned about these issues? I do not think we should be because Naadi readers do not make predictions about us whether we should be paying taxes or not and they do not put to misuse any information in the predictions that they read for us. They are rendering services to general public and these services are not regulated, for which they charge varying amounts. Since these services are not regulated, we also have the right to negotiate the price with them. I feel we should focus on larger issues where we can advance the knowledge of this group. Thanks. nitin jain <ecstacymaster > wrote: one question to all . do rishis prescribe only remedies or amount of money also. i think amount is decided by reader. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try

it now.

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