Guest guest Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 Hello Friends, Recently i hv browsed the web and got an ID / Tel. No of a Naadi reader from Tamilnadu who does prediction free of cost. For that you need to send your Thumb Impression or Date / Place / Time /Year of Birth. He claims that he used to be the Naadi reader / Astrologer for Late Leaders Saddam Hussain, Mrs. Bhutto, Rajiv Gandhi and even for present leaders like Advani, Baba Kalyani, Jayalalitha and Rahul Bajaj . How far it is true i don't know. I hv sent my Birth details and got General predictions after few requests over phone. Whatever the qualities he has predicted regarding my wife matched 70-80%. All General predictions , nothing on specific events His Claimed predictions. I predicted to Mr. Shashi Tharoor, the U.N. Under Secretary General about his defeat in the U. N. Secretary General election. I am in this field of reading & predicting the Nadi for the past 70 years. So many magazines appreciated my correct Predictions. I have enclosed a copy of one such article for your consideration Your Highness I had read Nadi to Saadddam Hussain the former Iraq President- about his ill fate(see the copy of the articles enclosed). -I have not enclosed any of his articles with this Mail. -The Copy of the article doesn't state Saddam Hussains ill Fate The Remedy what he has mentioned is is only an Yantra .He has mentioned Special / Medium and Ordinary type Yantras for differnet period of Effeectiveness. Is it really works / Worth? Refer the attchment for the details. Can Anyone clarify? Thanks, Regards, S. Hariharan+91-0-98231 29984 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 he is a fraud i think .. he will try to get more money playing fool with you, giving false promised etc..got cheated that way ..i can tell , " Hariharan.S " <hariharan_sm wrote: > > Hello Friends, > > Recently i hv browsed the web and got an ID / Tel. No of a Naadi reader from Tamilnadu who does prediction free of cost. For that you need to send your Thumb Impression or Date / Place / Time /Year of Birth. > > He claims that he used to be the Naadi reader / Astrologer for Late Leaders Saddam Hussain, Mrs. Bhutto, Rajiv Gandhi and even for present leaders like Advani, Baba Kalyani, Jayalalitha and Rahul Bajaj .. How far it is true i don't know. > > I hv sent my Birth details and got General predictions after few requests over phone. Whatever the qualities he has predicted regarding my wife matched 70-80%. All General predictions , nothing on specific events > > His Claimed predictions. > > I predicted to Mr. Shashi Tharoor, the U.N. Under Secretary General about his defeat in the U. N. Secretary General election. I am in this field of reading & predicting the Nadi for the past 70 years. So many magazines appreciated my correct Predictions. I have enclosed a copy of one such article for your consideration Your Highness I had read Nadi to Saadddam Hussain the former Iraq President- about his ill fate(see the copy of the articles enclosed). > > -I have not enclosed any of his articles with this Mail. > > -The Copy of the article doesn't state Saddam Hussains ill Fate > > The Remedy what he has mentioned is is only an Yantra .He has mentioned Special / Medium and Ordinary type Yantras for differnet period of Effeectiveness. Is it really works / Worth? Refer the attchment for the details. > > Can Anyone clarify? > > Thanks, > > Regards, > > S. Hariharan > +91-0-98231 29984 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 I think Nadi is going to have the same faith as Nostradamus , more people think about it more they realize that they are taken for ride . Now the only question remaining is how they tell about the past once we try to resolve that mystery we may be able to demistify Naadi predictions . To those of like to dicuss things without blind belief.. 1. How can you have multiple leaves for the in same Naadi system ( Agasthyar) , did the saint write multiple ones or is it been copied ? , if copied why are they different ? 2.When future becomes past , Naddi reader tell about it correctly but when it is still future they go wrong ? 3. Can yantra divert the ill effects ? , the belief is that if something is destined to happen it will happen ? Read any Nostradamus predictions and you will realize that they are very generic and can be applied only after things happen , like the WW II prediction , Hitler thought that he will win but the same prediction was used by allied forces after they won the war, they didnt know that earler. Thanks and let me know how we can work together .. -Aries Hari <vaastro wrote: he is a fraud i think .. he will try to get more money playing foolwith you, giving false promised etc..got cheated that way ..i can tell , "Hariharan.S"<hariharan_sm wrote:>> Hello Friends,> > Recently i hv browsed the web and got an ID / Tel. No of a Naadireader from Tamilnadu who does prediction free of cost. For that youneed to send your Thumb Impression or Date / Place / Time /Year ofBirth. > > He claims that he used to be the Naadi reader / Astrologer for LateLeaders Saddam Hussain, Mrs. Bhutto, Rajiv Gandhi and even forpresent leaders like Advani, Baba Kalyani, Jayalalitha and Rahul Bajaj. How far it is true i don't know.> > I hv sent my Birth details and got General predictions after fewrequests over phone. Whatever the qualities he has predictedregarding my wife matched 70-80%. All General predictions , nothing onspecific events> > His Claimed predictions. > > I predicted to Mr. Shashi Tharoor, the U.N. Under Secretary Generalabout his defeat in the U. N. Secretary General election. I am in thisfield of reading & predicting the Nadi for the past 70 years. So manymagazines appreciated my correct Predictions. I have enclosed a copyof one such article for your consideration Your Highness I had readNadi to Saadddam Hussain the former Iraq President- about his illfate(see the copy of the articles enclosed). > > -I have not enclosed any of his articles with this Mail.> > -The Copy of the article doesn't state Saddam Hussains ill Fate> > The Remedy what he has mentioned is is only an Yantra .He hasmentioned Special / Medium and Ordinary type Yantras for differnetperiod of Effeectiveness. Is it really works / Worth? Refer theattchment for the details.> > Can Anyone clarify?> > Thanks,> > Regards,> > S. Hariharan> +91-0-98231 29984> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 if u say that your wife readings r matching 70 5 , then he may be true . first ask him for telling more chapters . then u will know better , how accurate he is . then only do the remedy . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 Dear Hariharan Can we have the weblink from where you got this prediction. Thanks "Hariharan.S" <hariharan_sm wrote: Hello Friends, Recently i hv browsed the web and got an ID / Tel. No of a Naadi reader from Tamilnadu who does prediction free of cost. For that you need to send your Thumb Impression or Date / Place / Time /Year of Birth. He claims that he used to be the Naadi reader / Astrologer for Late Leaders Saddam Hussain, Mrs. Bhutto, Rajiv Gandhi and even for present leaders like Advani, Baba Kalyani, Jayalalitha and Rahul Bajaj . How far it is true i don't know. I hv sent my Birth details and got General predictions after few requests over phone. Whatever the qualities he has predicted regarding my wife matched 70-80%. All General predictions , nothing on specific events His Claimed predictions. I predicted to Mr. Shashi Tharoor, the U.N. Under Secretary General about his defeat in the U. N. Secretary General election. I am in this field of reading & predicting the Nadi for the past 70 years. So many magazines appreciated my correct Predictions. I have enclosed a copy of one such article for your consideration Your Highness I had read Nadi to Saadddam Hussain the former Iraq President- about his ill fate(see the copy of the articles enclosed). -I have not enclosed any of his articles with this Mail. -The Copy of the article doesn't state Saddam Hussains ill Fate The Remedy what he has mentioned is is only an Yantra .He has mentioned Special / Medium and Ordinary type Yantras for differnet period of Effeectiveness. Is it really works / Worth? Refer the attchment for the details. Can Anyone clarify? Thanks, Regards, S. Hariharan+91-0-98231 29984 Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 Good questions Aries, sadly we hardly get answers to tricky questions in this forum. I’ve raised about multiple leafs question before too without any convincing answers. I request experienced senior people to give their opinions whenever they have time. Also I would like to add one more question based on Deshmukh ji’s mail few weeks back, where he mentions about new details after every visit to naadi reader and saying about previous visits. Now does that mean naadi leafs are dynamic? I thought they are static leafs in which it is also stated when we would visit and seek the naadi. Only jeeva naadi is the one should be dynamic I suppose (I’m not expert on this). I request Deshmukh ji to throw light on this and enlighten us. Below is the mail which I was referring to. Regards Rohit --- "vbdeshmukh" <deshmukhv Sat, 29 Mar 2008 07:42:02 +0000 (GMT) Re: Re: curious question - need expert advise Yes, I agree with you. Not only that but sometimes itis also mentioned the no. of visits made earlier ! Itis simply mind boggling and defies all logical orscientific enquiry. At each Naadi reading session somemore information is disclosed accurately pinpointingthe events that took place since last reading.With my experience of over 20 years of Naadiconsultation I have come to the conclusion that thatNaadi readings will reveal only such things that youare destined to know at that particular time in life,nothing more or nothing less. The mystery about lifemust continue to sustain interest in the drama oflife. If everything about life is known I am afraidhalf the population would either go crazy or simplycommit suicide! Yes, ignorance is indeed a bliss sofar as ordinary human beings are concerned.So, let us not seek and expect 100 % accuratepredictions as we really do not know that they will bein our best interest.VBDeshmukh -----aries <waryaries wrote: I think Nadi is going to have the same faith as Nostradamus , more people think about it more they realize that they are taken for ride . Now the only question remaining is how they tell about the past once we try to resolve that mystery we may be able to demistify Naadi predictions . To those of like to dicuss things without blind belief.. 1. How can you have multiple leaves for the in same Naadi system ( Agasthyar) , did the saint write multiple ones or is it been copied ? , if copied why are they different ? 2.When future becomes past , Naddi reader tell about it correctly but when it is still future they go wrong ? 3. Can yantra divert the ill effects ? , the belief is that if something is destined to happen it will happen ? Read any Nostradamus predictions and you will realize that they are very generic and can be applied only after things happen , like the WW II prediction , Hitler thought that he will win but the same prediction was used by allied forces after they won the war, they didnt know that earler. Thanks and let me know how we can work together .. -Aries Hari <vaastro > wrote: he is a fraud i think .. he will try to get more money playing foolwith you, giving false promised etc..got cheated that way ..i can tell , "Hariharan.S"<hariharan_sm wrote:>> Hello Friends,> > Recently i hv browsed the web and got an ID / Tel. No of a Naadireader from Tamilnadu who does prediction free of cost. For that youneed to send your Thumb Impression or Date / Place / Time /Year ofBirth. > > He claims that he used to be the Naadi reader / Astrologer for LateLeaders Saddam Hussain, Mrs. Bhutto, Rajiv Gandhi and even forpresent leaders like Advani, Baba Kalyani, Jayalalitha and Rahul Bajaj. How far it is true i don't know.> > I hv sent my Birth details and got General predictions after fewrequests over phone. Whatever the qualities he has predictedregarding my wife matched 70-80%. All General predictions , nothing onspecific events> > His Claimed predictions. > > I predicted to Mr. Shashi Tharoor, the U.N. Under Secretary Generalabout his defeat in the U. N. Secretary General election. I am in thisfield of reading & predicting the Nadi for the past 70 years. So manymagazines appreciated my correct Predictions. I have enclosed a copyof one such article for your consideration Your Highness I had readNadi to Saadddam Hussain the former Iraq President- about his illfate(see the copy of the articles enclosed). > > -I have not enclosed any of his articles with this Mail.> > -The Copy of the article doesn't state Saddam Hussains ill Fate> > The Remedy what he has mentioned is is only an Yantra .He hasmentioned Special / Medium and Ordinary type Yantras for differnetperiod of Effeectiveness. Is it really works / Worth? Refer theattchment for the details.> > Can Anyone clarify?> > Thanks,> > Regards,> > S. Hariharan> +91-0-98231 29984> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 The most striking thing about this naadi reader is that he's asking for Date place time year of birth etc. i'm not a naadi expert, just a curious person, but aren't naadi readers just supposed to use your thumbprint and give you all this information? can anyone clarify? i'm not complaining, i mean its a free service, but just curious. moreover, the yantras seem to cost alot of money. i'd just make a yantra of my own chanting The Lords name every nite my nadi journey has ended. it started from here, and for that i'm very grateful that there are dependable people on this board, from whom i could take advise. my curiosity's been fulfilled, and i've got some answers, not all of them. in the end, i'm going to leave everything up to Him....but of course, try my best to get to where i want, with His name of course to those who are embarking on their journeys, i wish you the very best of luck, and may u find what u're looking for. God Bless all of you. Thank you. From: hariharan_smDate: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 16:38:02 +0530 Naadi Prediction Hello Friends, Recently i hv browsed the web and got an ID / Tel. No of a Naadi reader from Tamilnadu who does prediction free of cost. For that you need to send your Thumb Impression or Date / Place / Time /Year of Birth. He claims that he used to be the Naadi reader / Astrologer for Late Leaders Saddam Hussain, Mrs. Bhutto, Rajiv Gandhi and even for present leaders like Advani, Baba Kalyani, Jayalalitha and Rahul Bajaj . How far it is true i don't know. I hv sent my Birth details and got General predictions after few requests over phone. Whatever the qualities he has predicted regarding my wife matched 70-80%. All General predictions , nothing on specific events His Claimed predictions. I predicted to Mr. Shashi Tharoor, the U.N. Under Secretary General about his defeat in the U. N. Secretary General election. I am in this field of reading & predicting the Nadi for the past 70 years. So many magazines appreciated my correct Predictions. I have enclosed a copy of one such article for your consideration Your Highness I had read Nadi to Saadddam Hussain the former Iraq President- about his ill fate(see the copy of the articles enclosed). -I have not enclosed any of his articles with this Mail. -The Copy of the article doesn't state Saddam Hussains ill Fate The Remedy what he has mentioned is is only an Yantra .He has mentioned Special / Medium and Ordinary type Yantras for differnet period of Effeectiveness. Is it really works / Worth? Refer the attchment for the details. Can Anyone clarify? Thanks, Regards, S. Hariharan+91-0-98231 29984 Express yourself and stay connected with the latest ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 Hello, You have mentioned about Mr. Eashwaran , Atri Naadi. One of my friend had a bad experience with him. Mr. Eashwaran could predict the past after asking n number of questions to my friend. he was / is still undergoing some professional problems. For that he was asked to perform a Remedial Pooja in Vaideeshwaran Temple. Mr. Eashwaran would arrange to perform the Pooja and my friend had to pay Rs.10,000/- in 5 equal Instalments. It's almost 1 year since the puja was performed. Nothing has changed with my friends life. Still he is struggling . Even the so called Famous Naadi readers fails in their prediction. Then How do you measure the effectiveness of Future predictions and Remedial measures given by them? Thank you, Sincerly, S.Hariharan From: epitaph31Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 23:13:54 +0800RE: Naadi Prediction The most striking thing about this naadi reader is that he's asking for Date place time year of birth etc. i'm not a naadi expert, just a curious person, but aren't naadi readers just supposed to use your thumbprint and give you all this information? can anyone clarify? i'm not complaining, i mean its a free service, but just curious. moreover, the yantras seem to cost alot of money. i'd just make a yantra of my own chanting The Lords name every nite my nadi journey has ended. it started from here, and for that i'm very grateful that there are dependable people on this board, from whom i could take advise. my curiosity's been fulfilled, and i've got some answers, not all of them. in the end, i'm going to leave everything up to Him....but of course, try my best to get to where i want, with His name of course to those who are embarking on their journeys, i wish you the very best of luck, and may u find what u're looking for. God Bless all of you. Thank you. From: hariharan_sm (AT) hotmail (DOT) comDate: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 16:38:02 +0530 Naadi Prediction Hello Friends, Recently i hv browsed the web and got an ID / Tel. No of a Naadi reader from Tamilnadu who does prediction free of cost. For that you need to send your Thumb Impression or Date / Place / Time /Year of Birth. He claims that he used to be the Naadi reader / Astrologer for Late Leaders Saddam Hussain, Mrs. Bhutto, Rajiv Gandhi and even for present leaders like Advani, Baba Kalyani, Jayalalitha and Rahul Bajaj . How far it is true i don't know. I hv sent my Birth details and got General predictions after few requests over phone. Whatever the qualities he has predicted regarding my wife matched 70-80%. All General predictions , nothing on specific events His Claimed predictions. I predicted to Mr. Shashi Tharoor, the U.N. Under Secretary General about his defeat in the U. N. Secretary General election. I am in this field of reading & predicting the Nadi for the past 70 years. So many magazines appreciated my correct Predictions. I have enclosed a copy of one such article for your consideration Your Highness I had read Nadi to Saadddam Hussain the former Iraq President- about his ill fate(see the copy of the articles enclosed). -I have not enclosed any of his articles with this Mail. -The Copy of the article doesn't state Saddam Hussains ill Fate The Remedy what he has mentioned is is only an Yantra .He has mentioned Special / Medium and Ordinary type Yantras for differnet period of Effeectiveness. Is it really works / Worth? Refer the attchment for the details. Can Anyone clarify? Thanks, Regards, S. Hariharan+91-0-98231 29984 Express yourself and stay connected with the latest ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 i have seen almost all the mantras n yantras are available online somewhere, i also think that if there is a god and if he has to be pleased, he will b more pleased with me learning the mantra n doing the puja myself...rather then a priest doing it somewhere i am nt sure of.....n with me having a doubt ...i mite not b as knowlegable as the preiest n i might nt recite is 108 times twice daily but if i learn it myself n pray from my heart .... my god will listen and come for my help dr anuragAnand Mahey <epitaph31 wrote: The most striking thing about this naadi reader is that he's asking for Date place time year of birth etc. i'm not a naadi expert, just a curious person, but aren't naadi readers just supposed to use your thumbprint and give you all this information? can anyone clarify? i'm not complaining, i mean its a free service, but just curious. moreover, the yantras seem to cost alot of money. i'd just make a yantra of my own chanting The Lords name every nite my nadi journey has ended. it started from here, and for that i'm very grateful that there are dependable people on this board, from whom i could take advise. my curiosity's been fulfilled, and i've got some answers, not all of them. in the end, i'm going to leave everything up to Him....but of course, try my best to get to where i want, with His name of course to those who are embarking on their journeys, i wish you the very best of luck, and may u find what u're looking for. God Bless all of you. Thank you. From: hariharan_sm (AT) hotmail (DOT) comDate: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 16:38:02 +0530 Naadi Prediction Hello Friends, Recently i hv browsed the web and got an ID / Tel. No of a Naadi reader from Tamilnadu who does prediction free of cost. For that you need to send your Thumb Impression or Date / Place / Time /Year of Birth. He claims that he used to be the Naadi reader / Astrologer for Late Leaders Saddam Hussain, Mrs. Bhutto, Rajiv Gandhi and even for present leaders like Advani, Baba Kalyani, Jayalalitha and Rahul Bajaj . How far it is true i don't know. I hv sent my Birth details and got General predictions after few requests over phone. Whatever the qualities he has predicted regarding my wife matched 70-80%. All General predictions , nothing on specific events His Claimed predictions. I predicted to Mr. Shashi Tharoor, the U.N. Under Secretary General about his defeat in the U. N. Secretary General election. I am in this field of reading & predicting the Nadi for the past 70 years. So many magazines appreciated my correct Predictions. I have enclosed a copy of one such article for your consideration Your Highness I had read Nadi to Saadddam Hussain the former Iraq President- about his ill fate(see the copy of the articles enclosed). -I have not enclosed any of his articles with this Mail. -The Copy of the article doesn't state Saddam Hussains ill Fate The Remedy what he has mentioned is is only an Yantra .He has mentioned Special / Medium and Ordinary type Yantras for differnet period of Effeectiveness. Is it really works / Worth? Refer the attchment for the details. Can Anyone clarify? Thanks, Regards, S. Hariharan+91-0-98231 29984 Express yourself and stay connected with the latest ! Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 dear hari haran and nadi lovers, don't belive him he is cheater.same prediction given to all my friends from different palces.he is 100% cheater.NILAM.SURESH Best Jokes, Best Friends, Best Food. Get all this and more on Best of . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 Hi Aires, Let me try asking your question with what i understand Firstly, some naadis themselves have reveled that not all the naadis were written by Agastya for the Agastya Naadis. Most were written by his close disciples but because of the love, faith and respect they have on their guru. They wrote it as though he himself had written the naadi and also named it after him. It would explain the multiple set of naadis. As for Yantras they are as old as vedic astrology itself. In one of the scripture, clear detailed explanation of each yantra is explained but i don't remember which one it was in. Yantras were intentionally crafted in certain ways to attract certain forms of energy to them. As for theory of karma. If you read closely scriptures such as the Gita and the Srimad Bagavantam you can eventually come to the conclusion that there is no such thing of karma. The human body itself as got no ability to function without the aid of the Paramatma withine. So we are like puppets under the strings of the lord. I am not very sure of the second question but you may wish to look through our group past messages. If I'm not wrong i remember there was a discussion on this some time ago. Thanking You Hari , aries <waryaries wrote: > > I think Nadi is going to have the same faith as Nostradamus , more people think about it more they realize that they are taken for ride . Now the only question remaining is how they tell about the past once we try to resolve that mystery we may be able to demistify Naadi predictions . > > To those of like to dicuss things without blind belief.. > > 1. How can you have multiple leaves for the in same Naadi system ( Agasthyar) , did the saint write multiple ones or is it been copied ? , if copied why are they different ? > > 2.When future becomes past , Naddi reader tell about it correctly but when it is still future they go wrong ? > > 3. Can yantra divert the ill effects ? , the belief is that if something is destined to happen it will happen ? > > Read any Nostradamus predictions and you will realize that they are very generic and can be applied only after things happen , like the WW II prediction , Hitler thought that he will win but the same prediction was used by allied forces after they won the war, they didnt know that earler. > > Thanks and let me know how we can work together .. > -Aries > > > Hari <vaastro wrote: > he is a fraud i think .. he will try to get more money playing fool > with you, giving false promised etc..got cheated that way ..i can tell > > , " Hariharan.S " > <hariharan_sm@> wrote: > > > > Hello Friends, > > > > Recently i hv browsed the web and got an ID / Tel. No of a Naadi > reader from Tamilnadu who does prediction free of cost. For that you > need to send your Thumb Impression or Date / Place / Time /Year of > Birth. > > > > He claims that he used to be the Naadi reader / Astrologer for Late > Leaders Saddam Hussain, Mrs. Bhutto, Rajiv Gandhi and even for > present leaders like Advani, Baba Kalyani, Jayalalitha and Rahul Bajaj > . How far it is true i don't know. > > > > I hv sent my Birth details and got General predictions after few > requests over phone. Whatever the qualities he has predicted > regarding my wife matched 70-80%. All General predictions , nothing on > specific events > > > > His Claimed predictions. > > > > I predicted to Mr. Shashi Tharoor, the U.N. Under Secretary General > about his defeat in the U. N. Secretary General election. I am in this > field of reading & predicting the Nadi for the past 70 years. So many > magazines appreciated my correct Predictions. I have enclosed a copy > of one such article for your consideration Your Highness I had read > Nadi to Saadddam Hussain the former Iraq President- about his ill > fate(see the copy of the articles enclosed). > > > > -I have not enclosed any of his articles with this Mail. > > > > -The Copy of the article doesn't state Saddam Hussains ill Fate > > > > The Remedy what he has mentioned is is only an Yantra .He has > mentioned Special / Medium and Ordinary type Yantras for differnet > period of Effeectiveness. Is it really works / Worth? Refer the > attchment for the details. > > > > Can Anyone clarify? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Regards, > > > > S. Hariharan > > +91-0-98231 29984 > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2008 Report Share Posted April 26, 2008 Hello Members, I hv browsed thro' Mr. SivaSamys website ( www.srisivanadi.com). For Online prediction, you need to send your thumb Impression along with a a long detailed filled Questionnaire. That itself answer most of the things happened / Happening in your life ( past & Present ) from your end itself. It will be easy for the Naadi reader to predict the Past & present from the filled form very easily. They Charge Rs.2500 for the prediction. You need to do the Money transfer before getting the prediction done. You hv a receptionist over there who speaks very fluent English. It looks like a Business Center. One interesting posting from the Web- Nadi Scamfest When Yaniv visited India a few years back, a series of chance encounters and coincidences lead him to an astrolger who had a copy of his horoscope written on an old palm leaf that contained many remarkable details about his life. The legend as I understood it then was that there was a certain disciple of the ancient sage Agastya who began scrawling out the horoscopes of certain people who lived in India at that time. The remarkable thing was that he was writing out the horoscopes of their future lives-- and not just any future life, a future life in which they had reached a critical inflection point in their spiritual evolution. The goal was to create a sort of time-capsule to the future through which beneficial advice could be given to that soul to help them overcome critical hurdle along their journey. Not everyone had a leaf, but the legend goes that only people who did have a leaf would be interested in finding it, and thus be drawn to a place where the leaves were stored. Curious about the legend, I put it on my wish-list of things to check out while in S. India. Back in December, I met with Dr. M.D. Muthukumarswamy, Executive Director of the National Folklore Support Centre, as part of the project with Stanford. What had been slated to be a 30 minute meeting ended up lasting 6 hours, and felt distinctly like catching up with a long lost friend. I figured that Muthu would know about the palm leaves, known as nadi leaves, and so I asked him. He added some information to what I already had heard: the original leaves were composed between 3000 and 5000 years ago, and were rediscovered in the early 1800s when they were copied; the originals are officially lost, but probably held somewhere as the sacred treasure of a brahmin family; most of the people who claim to have nadi leaves are fakers; a man named C. Poosamuthu near Vaidyetheswaran Koil was the only guy in S. India who had the legit leaves copied in the 1800s. If anybody knows what they're talking about, its definitely Muthu, so I knew I had to find this Poosamuthu fellow near Vaidyetheswaran Koil. Last week I got the chance.Vaidyetheswaran Koil is a temple about 30 km from Chidambaram, and so I boarded a bus from Pondicherry to Chidambaram, and then started looking for a cab to take to Vaidyetheswaran. That day had already been a series of amazing coincidences for me and for others and something interesting happened here too. When I asked the how much the fare was (in English) to my destination, he responded in Hindi. Hindi! That's practically unheard of in S. India. Anyhow, happy to have someone I could communicate with fairly well, I zoomed off in search of Poosamuthu. BTW, it was actually Urdu that he'd responded in, and my drivers were two rather modern, unusually muscular Muslim guys in their early 20s who took me by the Muslim community center, and their Muslim neighborhood on the way to Vaidyetheswaran Koil.Anyhow, we get to the temple, and of course every shop there is a nadi leaf shop. We ask for Poosamuthu, and everyone sends us to their shop. When we specifically ask for Poosamuthu, they claim that they are a branch of the Poosamuthu operation, or that Poosamuthu is "out of station". I ask for their card, and of course it has nothing to do with Poosamuthu. I ask for Poosamuthu's card, and none of these guys could produce one. We realized that it was a case of trying to ask a Hyundai dealer where the Honda dealership was and that we simply needed to ask someone in another line of business so we drove off and asked around, eventually finding C. Poosamuthu a short time, and short distance later.Upon arriving, I was initially struck by the number of people lounging around. There were like 7 or 8 chelas loitering on the porch, who kind of perked up when I got there. They lead me to a small room where a man in his 30s sat across the table from me. Silence."Are you Poosamuthu?""Yes.""Great. Dr. Muthukumarswamy from Chennai recommended you. I'd like to see if I have a nadi leaf."Nod. Smile. Silence. More silence.What was he waiting for?"So how do I go about doing that?"Smile. Silence.Awright... so clearly I was not understanding how all this worked. I decided to follow the Roman rule and do as the Vaidyetheswarans do while in Vaidyetheswaran. I just sat there. And smiled.A few minutes later, another dude walks into the room and sits next to me. The two of them start talking in Tamil. Just when I think this guy is cutting in on my action, he turns to me and starts talking in Hindi. Ahh... he's the translator, and Poosamuthu doesn't speak English.I learn that this dude actually isn't Poosamuthu, but someone who claims to be the son of Poosamuthu. Felt kinda shady given all the scammers a few blocks away, but he said that Poosamuthu is old and doesn't do readings anymore. He's taught these guys how to read the leaves, and he still meets people but isn't directly involved with the action. Next, he tells me the story of the nadi leaves. My Hindi isn't anywhere near perfect, but as I make it out, his version says that the leaves were written by Vashistha (instead of Agastya's disciple), another ancient sage of fame, meant for people who are either at a critical point in their evolution, or whose spiritual evolution is critical for the overall benefit of humanity. Seemed like a flattering twist designed to make people feel special and important, but whatever. On to the way it works. Not everyone has a leaf, you don't pay if you don't have a leaf, but you do have to pay half of the amount upfront if you want them to check for a leaf. Pricing depends on how much info you want. Apparently, there are 15 chapter that cover all aspects of your life... each priced at 300 Rs. Or you can get the whole enchilada-- past, present, future and all chapters for 4000 Rs. Translation to English, where you also get an audio tape of the translation, cost another 400 Rs. Seemed like if you only got the past, it could only verify whether there was anything to all this, and not really do anything relevant for the present. Also, if you only got the future, you have no idea if any of it is legit. There are similar problems if you ask about any particular chapter, like the 'career' chapter or the 'marriage' chapter. So I decide to go for the whole enchilada.They tell me that in order to find my leaf, they need my name, birthdate & location, and right thumb print. 2000 Rs and 30 minutes later, another dude aged about 50 or so comes back with a short stack of strips of palm leaves. They seem to be quite old, and have faint, not-quite-Tamil script on them. The dude and his translator begin. He carefully unwraps the leaf bundle and drawls off a line or two in a nasal, archaic Tamil. He then translates into modern Tamil for the translator in normal tone, who tells me what he said in Hindi.Basically, the way it works is this: the guy asks you a yes or no question supposedly from the leaf. If you answer is no, its not your leaf, and they move onto the next leaf. Only when the answer to every question asked is 'yes' has your leaf been found. They'll ask you questions like "Does your mother's name start with any of these four letters...?" or "Is your family involved in the _____ business?" or "Do you have ___ brothers?" When they get a 'yes', they'll move on to "Does the second letter of your mother's name start with...?"You can see the problem here. About a 100 questions later, they knew: my mother's name, father's name, health status of both, number-gender-approx age of siblings, where my family lives, what they do, my educational background, work background, future aspirations & inclinations, travel history, and many details about each of these. Essentially, they have tons of information about my past & present circumstances, and lots of information about what my future directions might be. Doesn't take a genius to make some good enough guesses to fill in the gaps. As if that weren't enough, there was still more that made it seem fake. First, the guy didn't seem to be actually reading the leaves- just showboating like he was and then asking whatever question seemed like it was far enough removed from the previous question such that those with bad short-term memory wouldn't remember the details of sequential lines of questioning. The nasal supposedly-archaic-Tamil added to that. Second, there seemed to be an endless supply of leaves. He first brought in 1 bundle that had about 20 leaves. When that was exhausted without locating my leaf, he went in the room and got another stack. This kept happening. You'd think that if there were perhaps 100 candidate leaves, he'd bring them all in the room at once. But if he was scamming, he would never want there to be a finite number cuz he might run out and then have to pay back the advance. What added to this sense was the Hindi translator telling me that I definitely had a leaf before I paid anything upfront-- really got the sense that anyone with the money has got a leaf. Third, when he finally got to all 'yes', every question was based on things he had already asked and verified in previous questions-- there wasn't a single question that was a newly confirmed 'yes'. Fourth, at the last yes, he didn't note down what leaf, just said that he found my 'index' an wrote things down in his pad. This lead me to wonder if the leaves themselves were the nadi leaves or some sort of indexing leaf-- but also gave the feeling that the leaves didn't really matter and were just part of the show. Lastly, they didn't seem to do a thing with my thumbprint. Theoretically, your leaf is supposed to be located by patterns on your thumb. They seemed to take my print just because perhaps I had heard that its all done with your thumbprint.After they found my index, I was supposed to go back the next day. The process was supposed to take 2-3 hours and another 2400 Rs. but instead I went back to Pondy and called Yaniv the next morning. His experience was quite a bit different from mine... not nearly as sketchy and expensive. Wasn't able to get a hold of Muthu to get his thoughts, but was convinced enough that these guys were cheaters. The experience did cost me 2000 Rs for the scammers and 600 Rs for the taxi (which also was a rip-off by about 150 Rs) but that's the price of satisfying my curiousity. And for being a sucker! Thanks, Regards, S. Hariharan 09371003246 - harinomore @com Friday, April 25, 2008 2:47 PM Re: Naadi Prediction Hi Aires,Let me try asking your question with what i understandFirstly, some naadis themselves have reveled that not all the naadis were written by Agastya for the Agastya Naadis. Most were written byhis close disciples but because of the love, faith and respect theyhave on their guru. They wrote it as though he himself had written thenaadi and also named it after him. It would explain the multiple setof naadis.As for Yantras they are as old as vedic astrology itself. In one ofthe scripture, clear detailed explanation of each yantra is explainedbut i don't remember which one it was in. Yantras were intentionallycrafted in certain ways to attract certain forms of energy to them. As for theory of karma. If you read closely scriptures such as theGita and the Srimad Bagavantam you can eventually come to theconclusion that there is no such thing of karma. The human body itselfas got no ability to function without the aid of the Paramatmawithine. So we are like puppets under the strings of the lord.I am not very sure of the second question but you may wish to lookthrough our group past messages. If I'm not wrong i remember there wasa discussion on this some time ago.Thanking YouHari , aries <waryaries wrote:>> I think Nadi is going to have the same faith as Nostradamus , morepeople think about it more they realize that they are taken for ride .Now the only question remaining is how they tell about the past oncewe try to resolve that mystery we may be able to demistify Naadipredictions . > > To those of like to dicuss things without blind belief..> > 1. How can you have multiple leaves for the in same Naadi system (Agasthyar) , did the saint write multiple ones or is it been copied ?, if copied why are they different ?> > 2.When future becomes past , Naddi reader tell about it correctlybut when it is still future they go wrong ?> > 3. Can yantra divert the ill effects ? , the belief is that ifsomething is destined to happen it will happen ?> > Read any Nostradamus predictions and you will realize that theyare very generic and can be applied only after things happen , likethe WW II prediction , Hitler thought that he will win but the sameprediction was used by allied forces after they won the war, theydidnt know that earler.> > Thanks and let me know how we can work together ..> -Aries > > > Hari <vaastro wrote:> he is a fraud i think .. he will try to get more moneyplaying fool> with you, giving false promised etc..got cheated that way ..i can tell> > , "Hariharan.S"> <hariharan_sm@> wrote:> >> > Hello Friends,> > > > Recently i hv browsed the web and got an ID / Tel. No of a Naadi> reader from Tamilnadu who does prediction free of cost. For that you> need to send your Thumb Impression or Date / Place / Time /Year of> Birth. > > > > He claims that he used to be the Naadi reader / Astrologer for Late> Leaders Saddam Hussain, Mrs. Bhutto, Rajiv Gandhi and even for> present leaders like Advani, Baba Kalyani, Jayalalitha and Rahul Bajaj> . How far it is true i don't know.> > > > I hv sent my Birth details and got General predictions after few> requests over phone. Whatever the qualities he has predicted> regarding my wife matched 70-80%. All General predictions , nothing on> specific events> > > > His Claimed predictions. > > > > I predicted to Mr. Shashi Tharoor, the U.N. Under Secretary General> about his defeat in the U. N. Secretary General election. I am in this> field of reading & predicting the Nadi for the past 70 years. So many> magazines appreciated my correct Predictions. I have enclosed a copy> of one such article for your consideration Your Highness I had read> Nadi to Saadddam Hussain the former Iraq President- about his ill> fate(see the copy of the articles enclosed). > > > > -I have not enclosed any of his articles with this Mail.> > > > -The Copy of the article doesn't state Saddam Hussains ill Fate> > > > The Remedy what he has mentioned is is only an Yantra .He has> mentioned Special / Medium and Ordinary type Yantras for differnet> period of Effeectiveness. Is it really works / Worth? Refer the> attchment for the details.> > > > Can Anyone clarify?> > > > Thanks,> > > > Regards,> > > > S. Hariharan> > +91-0-98231 29984> >> > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. 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Guest guest Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 Hariharan ji Can we have the weblink from where you got cheated for the benefit of the members. Thanks ~Rohit~ <rrohit_123 wrote: Dear Hariharan Can we have the weblink from where you got this prediction. Thanks "Hariharan.S" <hariharan_sm (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: Hello Friends, Recently i hv browsed the web and got an ID / Tel. No of a Naadi reader from Tamilnadu who does prediction free of cost. For that you need to send your Thumb Impression or Date / Place / Time /Year of Birth. He claims that he used to be the Naadi reader / Astrologer for Late Leaders Saddam Hussain, Mrs. Bhutto, Rajiv Gandhi and even for present leaders like Advani, Baba Kalyani, Jayalalitha and Rahul Bajaj . How far it is true i don't know. I hv sent my Birth details and got General predictions after few requests over phone. Whatever the qualities he has predicted regarding my wife matched 70-80%. All General predictions , nothing on specific events His Claimed predictions. I predicted to Mr. Shashi Tharoor, the U.N. Under Secretary General about his defeat in the U. N. Secretary General election. I am in this field of reading & predicting the Nadi for the past 70 years. So many magazines appreciated my correct Predictions. I have enclosed a copy of one such article for your consideration Your Highness I had read Nadi to Saadddam Hussain the former Iraq President- about his ill fate(see the copy of the articles enclosed). -I have not enclosed any of his articles with this Mail. -The Copy of the article doesn't state Saddam Hussains ill Fate The Remedy what he has mentioned is is only an Yantra .He has mentioned Special / Medium and Ordinary type Yantras for differnet period of Effeectiveness. Is it really works / Worth? Refer the attchment for the details. Can Anyone clarify? Thanks, Regards, S. Hariharan+91-0-98231 29984 Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 Dear Suresh Which Naadi reader you are referring to ?nsuresh nilam <sidhu2215 wrote: dear hari haran and nadi lovers, don't belive him he is cheater.same prediction given to all my friends from different palces.he is 100% cheater.NILAM.SURESH Best Jokes, Best Friends, Best Food. Get all this and more on Best of . Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 Dear Rohit, He was refering to One Naadi reader from Pune Mr. Eashwaran. Thanks, Regards, S. Hariharan+91-020-32940623+91-0-93710 03246+91-0-98231 29984hariharan - ~Rohit~ @com Monday, April 28, 2008 2:14 AM Re: Re:Naadi Prediction Dear Suresh Which Naadi reader you are referring to ?nsuresh nilam <sidhu2215 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: dear hari haran and nadi lovers, don't belive him he is cheater.same prediction given to all my friends from different palces.he is 100% cheater.NILAM.SURESH Best Jokes, Best Friends, Best Food. Get all this and more on Best of . Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 Dear Hariharan I am referring to the mail in which you referred to tamilnadu naadi reader who claimed to have read saddam hussein and shashi turoor. etc Thanks Rohit "Hariharan.S" <hariharan_sm wrote: Dear Rohit, He was refering to One Naadi reader from Pune Mr. Eashwaran. Thanks, Regards, S. Hariharan+91-020-32940623+91-0-93710 03246+91-0-98231 29984hariharan (AT) headhunterindia (DOT) com - ~Rohit~ @com Monday, April 28, 2008 2:14 AM Re: Re:Naadi Prediction Dear Suresh Which Naadi reader you are referring to ?nsuresh nilam <sidhu2215 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: dear hari haran and nadi lovers, don't belive him he is cheater.same prediction given to all my friends from different palces.he is 100% cheater.NILAM.SURESH Best Jokes, Best Friends, Best Food. Get all this and more on Best of . Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 Dear Rohit, Pl find below the details of the Naadi Reader I hv mentioned. you can refer my name Hariharan from Pune. Members can try his prediction since it is free. Then you can decide whether you need to go for the Yantra remedy or nor. I'll forward his claims in my next mail. http://freenadiastrology.net/ http://findyourdestiny.org/ Mr. K.Subramaniam Mobile No : 0091 9842207588 email : sathyatell Thank you, Sincerly, Subramanian Hariharan From: rrohit_123Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 06:10:03 -0700Re: Re:Naadi Prediction Dear Hariharan I am referring to the mail in which you referred to tamilnadu naadi reader who claimed to have read saddam hussein and shashi turoor. etc Thanks Rohit "Hariharan.S" <hariharan_sm (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Rohit, He was refering to One Naadi reader from Pune Mr. Eashwaran. Thanks, Regards, S. Hariharan+91-020-32940623+91-0-93710 03246+91-0-98231 29984hariharan (AT) headhunterindia (DOT) com - ~Rohit~ @com Monday, April 28, 2008 2:14 AM Re: Re:Naadi Prediction Dear Suresh Which Naadi reader you are referring to ?nsuresh nilam <sidhu2215 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: dear hari haran and nadi lovers, don't belive him he is cheater.same prediction given to all my friends from different palces.he is 100% cheater.NILAM.SURESH Best Jokes, Best Friends, Best Food. Get all this and more on Best of . Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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