Guest guest Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 Dear all, I could see from this forum that many of you are behind the naadi leaves in particular and astrology in general. I am dividing the mass of nadi seekers into two categories -- those who want to read naadi for problem solution and those who want to do some research on it. I myself, once was much interested in the nadi related topics. But from my experience I would like to comment on certain things here. Nadi astrology is a branch of astrology that certainly involves some mantric rituals at some point. The great sages like Agasthyar and siddhars like Kagabhujandhar are no doubt to be respected. But in their names, the nadi people certainly do some sort of cheating nowadays.Miracles dont happen just like that. And this many branches of nadi centres all over India is quite unbelievable.New branches are coming in cities like Bangalore, Pune and New Delhi. The nadi leaves were once very rare and available only in selected places like Vaidheeswaran kovil, Kolli hills near Salem, Achirupaakkam, certain parts of Malai Naadu(hill places) and to some extent in Kerala. (I heard the koravar community of hill places like Valli Malai who worships Lord Muruga possesses Skandhar Naadi which is very accurate and precise but entirely rare) So the real thing happening now is that they apply the naadi principles to those who visit and read a near matching leaf after finding the names with the help of Karna yakshini devatas. In many places, I have noted that they dont really read from the leaves and their eyes are unsually half closed as if propitiating a kshudhra devata. Late B.V. Raman the renowed astrologer has found in his research that many nadi centres apply the principles of tantrism to do mind reading to find out the names and other details. In my experience I once tried always chanting the rama mantra " sri rama jaya rama jaya jaya rama " fixing my mind on Lord Rama during the Yes or No sessions and the nadi guy miserably failed to find out the names even after 3 bundles.( happened in nadi center Sukar nadi, Puthur, Trichy) Hence I request all learned and affluent men of India and Abroad -- please dont visit the famous centres in big cities or register through Internet to get your nadi readings done. I can definitely say it will never help. An empty vessel makes noise but the learned nadi reader will be simple and contended. Please have faith in Shiva or Vishnu and constantly chant some slokhas and mantras. Regurarly visit the nearby temples and sing bhajans. That will really help overcome all your miseries and obstacles in life. Singing the holy names of Lord Vishnu is the effective means of cleansing the bad thoughts and karma in this kali yuga. In shanthi kandam, the nadi readers say to give money or ask to visit this temple or that temple which is far off. I have often asked them " what if I worship in the nearby temple and follow righteous principles? Will the bad effects not be reduced? Is it not that our Hinduism says Bhagavan exists everywhere? " Certainly the all merciful Divine will bless you from wherever you are calling Him for help. If you have true aspiration and sincere & harmless wish, it will definitely be answered by the Divine. Hence dont get afraid or confused when the nadi readers command you to do pariharam at his place or this temple or that temple. From whaterver place and situation you are, call for the Divine intervention and help. For instance, Jeeva Naadi is extremely rare amidst all naadis and only certain naadi readers after following strict principles of austerity can read Jeeva naadi that too only for the destined people at the destined time. It is not a wikipedia computer to respond to all your queries at frequent intervals. So please dont be addicted and believe in all nadi centres blindly. If you are really inquistive to find nadi leaves, you should visit Tamil Nadu temples and many places to find out the truth. You go on some pilgrimage to remote places and you encounter a simple nadi centre in a hut or brick house -- you visit the centre -- you will find that the people are so respective and courteous -- the place is very devotional with pooja articles and deity photos -- they pray and begin to read the naadi leaves -- they give the details accurately -- you see important marriage or child chapter to know your would be and your jobs -- you become happy and contended -- donate money and come back happily -- you proceed with your career and forget all about it -- years later when marriage takes place with same accuracy you are thrilled and contended -- this is the typical thing that is expected to happen. Those who are lucky and destined will meet such genuine centres which are Adv free and find their readings. Not like this -- they give an advertisement or write episodes in newspapers or invite online registering and we people give all details directly or indirectly only to end up giving this much money to the astrologer. Your karma will never get cancelled by giving money to anybody for any sponsor pujas. The divine requires your inner silence, aspiration, devotion, confidence and purity -- once that is achieved everything you ask for will manifest. I will continue posting my research in nadi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 Excellent post. > For instance, Jeeva Naadi is extremely rare amidst all naadis and > only certain naadi readers after following strict principles of > austerity can read Jeeva naadi that too only for the destined people > at the destined time. It is not a wikipedia computer to respond to > all your queries at frequent intervals. What you wrote above is absolutely true. It is the maharishi who pulls the jeeva at the destined time for the jeeva nadi reading viz. when the jeeva is about to break away from darkness into the bliss of atma jyoti. In simpler words in most cases this happens when the central channel (sushumna) is almost open and the prana shakti is ready to move upward. Jeeva Nadi Reading is in coded form. Only the jeeva deciphers it in due course as events begin to unfold in his/her life. It is best that the jeeva not disclose the contents of such a reading to anyone or everyone. In spirituality the more private/secret one keeps his/her experiences, readings the better it is for his or her spiritual growth. Please continue to make postings like these. Best Wishes. , " ksksat27 " <ksksat27 wrote: > > Dear all, > > I could see from this forum that many of you are behind the naadi > leaves in particular and astrology in general. I am dividing the mass > of nadi seekers into two categories -- those who want to read naadi > for problem solution and those who want to do some research on it. > > I myself, once was much interested in the nadi related topics. But > from my experience I would like to comment on certain things here. > > Nadi astrology is a branch of astrology that certainly involves some > mantric rituals at some point. The great sages like Agasthyar and > siddhars like Kagabhujandhar are no doubt to be respected. > But in their names, the nadi people certainly do some sort of > cheating nowadays.Miracles dont happen just like that. And this many > branches of nadi centres all over India is quite unbelievable.New > branches are coming in cities like Bangalore, Pune and New Delhi. The > nadi leaves were once very rare and available only in selected places > like Vaidheeswaran kovil, Kolli hills near Salem, Achirupaakkam, > certain parts of Malai Naadu(hill places) and to some extent in > Kerala. (I heard the koravar community of hill places like Valli > Malai who worships Lord Muruga possesses Skandhar Naadi which is very > accurate and precise but entirely rare) > > So the real thing happening now is that they apply the naadi > principles to those who visit and read a near matching leaf after > finding the names with the help of Karna yakshini devatas. In many > places, I have noted that they dont really read from the leaves and > their eyes are unsually half closed as if propitiating a kshudhra > devata. Late B.V. Raman the renowed astrologer has found in his > research that many nadi centres apply the principles of tantrism to > do mind reading to find out the names and other details. In my > experience I once tried always chanting the rama mantra " sri rama > jaya rama jaya jaya rama " fixing my mind on Lord Rama during the Yes > or No sessions and the nadi guy miserably failed to find out the > names even after 3 bundles.( happened in nadi center Sukar nadi, > Puthur, Trichy) > > Hence I request all learned and affluent men of India and Abroad -- > please dont visit the famous centres in big cities or register > through Internet to get your nadi readings done. I can definitely say > it will never help. An empty vessel makes noise but the learned nadi > reader will be simple and contended. Please have faith in Shiva or > Vishnu and constantly chant some slokhas and mantras. Regurarly visit > the nearby temples and sing bhajans. That will really help overcome > all your miseries and obstacles in life. Singing the holy names of > Lord Vishnu is the effective means of cleansing the bad thoughts and > karma in this kali yuga. > > In shanthi kandam, the nadi readers say to give money or ask to visit > this temple or that temple which is far off. I have often asked > them " what if I worship in the nearby temple and follow righteous > principles? Will the bad effects not be reduced? Is it not that our > Hinduism says Bhagavan exists everywhere? " Certainly the all merciful > Divine will bless you from wherever you are calling Him for help. If > you have true aspiration and sincere & harmless wish, it will > definitely be answered by the Divine. Hence dont get afraid or > confused when the nadi readers command you to do pariharam at his > place or this temple or that temple. From whaterver place and > situation you are, call for the Divine intervention and help. > > For instance, Jeeva Naadi is extremely rare amidst all naadis and > only certain naadi readers after following strict principles of > austerity can read Jeeva naadi that too only for the destined people > at the destined time. It is not a wikipedia computer to respond to > all your queries at frequent intervals. > > So please dont be addicted and believe in all nadi centres blindly. > If you are really inquistive to find nadi leaves, you should visit > Tamil Nadu temples and many places to find out the truth. > You go on some pilgrimage to remote places and you encounter a simple > nadi centre in a hut or brick house -- you visit the centre -- you > will find that the people are so respective and courteous -- the > place is very devotional with pooja articles and deity photos -- they > pray and begin to read the naadi leaves -- they give the details > accurately -- you see important marriage or child chapter to know > your would be and your jobs -- you become happy and contended -- > donate money and come back happily -- you proceed with your career > and forget all about it -- years later when marriage takes place with > same accuracy you are thrilled and contended -- this is the typical > thing that is expected to happen. Those who are lucky and destined > will meet such genuine centres which are Adv free and find their > readings. Not like this -- they give an advertisement or write > episodes in newspapers or invite online registering and we people > give all details directly or indirectly only to end up giving this > much money to the astrologer. > > Your karma will never get cancelled by giving money to anybody for > any sponsor pujas. The divine requires your inner silence, > aspiration, devotion, confidence and purity -- once that is achieved > everything you ask for will manifest. > > I will continue posting my research in nadi. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 Thanks KSK for contributing to the forum your thoughts in such a detailed mail. Please continue writing. Also thanks Aries for joining in. I would like to put my views on these mails ... You have mentioned about the mind reading and using tantric skills to get information from the seeker itself. We are not sure how far its true however one thing is true that definitely they are not getting read from the leaf. This I am saying from my personal experience after visiting 6-7 naadi readers. It looks silly when you see leafs written by our great Maharishis are found in every nook and corner of India. For eg: my leaf was found at Chennai and next week it was available in Mumbai too, 2, 3 centers and next week it was available in Pune too. WonderfulJ. Interestingly one naadi reader in Pune ( famous one as per this group ) could not get my leaf when I revealed to him at the start that Ive already been to some naadi center in chennai. Whenver I call him he says, he cant find my leaf as my impression is one of the rare impressions. Funny. Also The way they start naadi reading is so disgusting that you lose all the respect in the first 10 minutes itself. However good your position may be, they start badly, blame your karma, suggest rituals, and complete the reading. End is most irritating where they warn you about things which may happen if we don’t complete the dhaan/rituals etc. And they form such a good stories about your past life that it looks like manmohan desai blockbuster. My past life got changed from Sri lanka to Assam to Srilanka depends on the choice of naadi readers. Of course all stories were different. I stopped asking past life after 3 reading, I know it would be Sri Lanka with a new story. One more thing I’ve noticed that after talking to some friends who have already had naadi reading some years back, mostly major events they predict may come true. I meant mostly disasters like your father meeting accident, your wife having ailment, some mother operation etc. Irrespective of whether, future predictions are coming right or wrong. Now if you take this into account it becomes a good topic for discussion coz what if the same naadi reader who has predicted made a spell on seeker to make the events happen in case of rituals not performed coz they say if you make dhaan etc these things will get averted. Few people didn’t heed and events did happen as per warning, other predictions didn’t happen. From my personal experience I felt these naadi seekers do make tantric spell on seekers, the way they show their confidence while talking about the disasters going to happen in ones lives. I would like to have a opinion on above point, as that would really help the general public from these imposters. Please share your thought s on this. Other members too please share your thoughts. Thanks Rohitaries <waryaries wrote: Right Said , I would agree with you 100 % , I had a mind blowing experience in pune center when the reader told about the past and present . But now things have taken 180 degree shift and all started going against what he has told us , we have visited temples as per advice , preformed pooja etc ... I think most of them does a sort of hypnotism and extract details from you and give back in cassette . Else think about this , if I had gone today they would have told things that has just happend to us ,since it is past ...then why not predict that 3 months ago ??.. There may be genuine readers , but most are fake. Even the recommended ones in forum . ksksat27 <ksksat27 > wrote: Dear all,I could see from this forum that many of you are behind the naadi leaves in particular and astrology in general. I am dividing the mass of nadi seekers into two categories -- those who want to read naadi for problem solution and those who want to do some research on it.I myself, once was much interested in the nadi related topics. But from my experience I would like to comment on certain things here.Nadi astrology is a branch of astrology that certainly involves some mantric rituals at some point. The great sages like Agasthyar and siddhars like Kagabhujandhar are no doubt to be respected.But in their names, the nadi people certainly do some sort of cheating nowadays.Miracles dont happen just like that. And this many branches of nadi centres all over India is quite unbelievable.New branches are coming in cities like Bangalore, Pune and New Delhi. The nadi leaves were once very rare and available only in selected places like Vaidheeswaran kovil, Kolli hills near Salem, Achirupaakkam, certain parts of Malai Naadu(hill places) and to some extent in Kerala. (I heard the koravar community of hill places like Valli Malai who worships Lord Muruga possesses Skandhar Naadi which is very accurate and precise but entirely rare)So the real thing happening now is that they apply the naadi principles to those who visit and read a near matching leaf after finding the names with the help of Karna yakshini devatas. In many places, I have noted that they dont really read from the leaves and their eyes are unsually half closed as if propitiating a kshudhra devata. Late B.V. Raman the renowed astrologer has found in his research that many nadi centres apply the principles of tantrism to do mind reading to find out the names and other details. In my experience I once tried always chanting the rama mantra "sri rama jaya rama jaya jaya rama" fixing my mind on Lord Rama during the Yes or No sessions and the nadi guy miserably failed to find out the names even after 3 bundles.( happened in nadi center Sukar nadi, Puthur, Trichy)Hence I request all learned and affluent men of India and Abroad -- please dont visit the famous centres in big cities or register through Internet to get your nadi readings done. I can definitely say it will never help. An empty vessel makes noise but the learned nadi reader will be simple and contended. Please have faith in Shiva or Vishnu and constantly chant some slokhas and mantras. Regurarly visit the nearby temples and sing bhajans. That will really help overcome all your miseries and obstacles in life. Singing the holy names of Lord Vishnu is the effective means of cleansing the bad thoughts and karma in this kali yuga. In shanthi kandam, the nadi readers say to give money or ask to visit this temple or that temple which is far off. I have often asked them "what if I worship in the nearby temple and follow righteous principles? Will the bad effects not be reduced? Is it not that our Hinduism says Bhagavan exists everywhere?" Certainly the all merciful Divine will bless you from wherever you are calling Him for help. If you have true aspiration and sincere & harmless wish, it will definitely be answered by the Divine. Hence dont get afraid or confused when the nadi readers command you to do pariharam at his place or this temple or that temple. From whaterver place and situation you are, call for the Divine intervention and help.For instance, Jeeva Naadi is extremely rare amidst all naadis and only certain naadi readers after following strict principles of austerity can read Jeeva naadi that too only for the destined people at the destined time. It is not a wikipedia computer to respond to all your queries at frequent intervals.So please dont be addicted and believe in all nadi centres blindly. If you are really inquistive to find nadi leaves, you should visit Tamil Nadu temples and many places to find out the truth. You go on some pilgrimage to remote places and you encounter a simple nadi centre in a hut or brick house -- you visit the centre -- you will find that the people are so respective and courteous -- the place is very devotional with pooja articles and deity photos -- they pray and begin to read the naadi leaves -- they give the details accurately -- you see important marriage or child chapter to know your would be and your jobs -- you become happy and contended -- donate money and come back happily -- you proceed with your career and forget all about it -- years later when marriage takes place with same accuracy you are thrilled and contended -- this is the typical thing that is expected to happen. Those who are lucky and destined will meet such genuine centres which are Adv free and find their readings. Not like this -- they give an advertisement or write episodes in newspapers or invite online registering and we people give all details directly or indirectly only to end up giving this much money to the astrologer.Your karma will never get cancelled by giving money to anybody for any sponsor pujas. The divine requires your inner silence, aspiration, devotion, confidence and purity -- once that is achieved everything you ask for will manifest.I will continue posting my research in nadi. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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