Guest guest Posted April 15, 2008 Report Share Posted April 15, 2008 This reply is not to convince anyone nor to impress everyone. Points raise on the website - 1)What about fees/charges? As indicated on the web page the web services are free. However the seeker will have to contact directly to the Naadi center of his choice and come to know his fees . We have avoided to mention any charges of any centers because it is up to them to decide. We had suggested to them while opening the site that they should avoid too much of variation of fees. 2) What is so special about this Website? In fact we want to know what difference you find ? We are not promoting any one Maharshi or any Naadi reader. Basically this website is to cater for the persons overseas. If anyone within India wishes to avail this service through website, they are welcome! Provided they pay the fees as charged for the oversees seekers. Even here We do not like to mention any fees of any Naadi Centre. 3) Superb cheating ! This type of remarks are expected. This is only beginning. As the time passes more brickbats are likely to be hurled at us. But never mind. Our aim is very clear. To inform about the message of the Maharshis to the interested persons. 4) To avoid the criticism of many in the past that Naadi readers extract the information though the conversation of by other methods. Option 2 in the procedure is suggested. The information table format is required to be filled by the seeker to keep the information handy to verify when the leaf is found out and the confirmation is needed. There is no button to submit that information. As seen in the Registration form it does not have any column of any details except the mane of the person, there also one can avoid writing his first name. That we the website operators are out to provide the information from information table format to the Naadicentres in secretive manner is the matter of imagination. However our denial wont convince any one. Hence we like o remain silent. Let other seekers speak after they experience. 5) Some months back case of Mr J was brought out in this forum. Fallowing is the study conducted. One can see that the detains are indicated in the leaf in poetic manner. The horoscope of the person form unknown place has been exactly drawn as if computer drawn. There are many words which are familiar to Sanskrit in the text. North Indians may be able to read them easily.This is not an attempt to bring out the supremacy of any language. 6) Tamil experts may like to send remakrs on this. 7) One can get the link of computer drwawn details of the date 11 Sep 1961. by clicking Naadi in the text. MAHASIVA NAADI Please Note:- Where ever the translation has been a shade dissimilar or more clear that portion has been indicated for the easy understanding. The horoscope of the person as could be seen from the website made horoscope is appended for confirmation of the meanings. In some places some similarities of the words resembling to Sanskrit are indicated in DevNagri. Especially for the benefit of Non-Tamil but Sanskirt knowing lovers. GENERAL KANDAM 1st Om Maha Ganapathy Thunai Aadhi siva sankariyin thiruthaal pottri aanoruvan podhukanda vilaka satchi (साकà¥à¤·à¥€ - )othiduven manimakuda (मणिमà¥à¤•à¥à¤Ÿ) vatta rekai (ऱेखा)otthairu pulliyadum vala kara thil karam(करम)arathu pilavaa aandu maathingal आवनी मासम kaanmathi (सोम) varam (वारम)athil irupanar(२६ तिथी ) thigathi satramathi varamathil astha (हसà¥à¤¤ - नकà¥à¤·à¤¤à¥à¤°)menum salavi (कà¥à¤‚à¤à¤®)sikiullay (केतà¥) rave (रवी-) paamlu (राहू) venkai (सिंह) – राशि के याने पांचवे सà¥à¤¥à¤¾à¤¨ में 3) venkaiyudan silai mudavan (शनि) mannan (गà¥à¤°à¥) manil मकर राशि याने १०वे सà¥à¤¥à¤¾à¤¨ में ) vayal thingal (चंदà¥à¤°) matra (अनà¥à¤¯) kol (गà¥à¤°à¤¹) pennilama (कनà¥à¤¯à¤¾ राशि याने ६ वे सà¥à¤¥à¤¾à¤¨ में) > mangalamai navakolam ivaarusutra > magan pirapu narkudilil thondrivaazvaan FROM THE ABOVE PLANETORY POSITION EXCEPT VENUS SHUKRA ALL OTHER STARS ARE EXACTLY PLACED -WITH DATE 11SEP 1961!(AS THE DATE OF BIRTH IN EUROPE COUNTRY ( I PRESUMED TO BE IN DENMARK KOPENHEGAN> TIME 23:30. Naadi (Please right click on Naadi word to open hyper link to see computer generated Horoscope.) > Rashi Chart********************************************************* * * * *AS 23:13 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ********************************************************* *KE 03:49 * *VE 22:34 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *************** *************** *SAR00:08 * *RA 03:49 * *JUR04:14 * *SU 25:37 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ********************************************************* * * * *MO 15:43 * * * * *ME 17:14 * * * * *MA 23:25 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ********************************************************* > 4) thotramadum esuvarkam (ईशà¥à¤µà¤°à¤®à¥ - ईसाई धरà¥à¤®) eendravar (माता-पिता) thurkum(दीरेà¥à¤˜à¤® - जीवित) > thaadai(तात - पिता)mun thondadimai (Private Job ) idunaal (Presently) oivu (Retired) > kirudivalam thara kudumbam (कà¥à¤Ÿà¥à¤‚बम) annaiyum paynee > kaanavay attanpaynee idunaal annai > > 5) annai magan illamundu vaaganambol > annalum pirathadthil maatranidam > vannamura runathirkaaga vithuvazvu > vanivanum nunukalvi varai (Drawing ) pada (Map) kattidam (Big Buildings) > > 6) kattudamudan thondadimai paechivanigam > katidakuk rasayana (रसायन) kalavi pandam > ittamudan semiputhadam paniyumkooda > idaikalam matramudan suyamai muyarchi > > 7) muyarchiyudan runampala manamakee vazvui > manathavaram illaporupu chevimandam > thayakanilla seyyanor thodarkalvi > thayum sei othuvaz pothupalanum kaana > > 8) ghana (Seeker's)paer (name) jeffrey scott williams > koorathan Father's - andrew francis williams paer > annaiyaval (Mother's ) catherine dianamary thaaram (Wife) > aagiyavaiya (At the age)dum noolaivaan(Seeker) noo(Actually) naarsoolam (43rd Year) > Second despatch Ends. 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Guest guest Posted April 15, 2008 Report Share Posted April 15, 2008 Dear Mr.OAK, Why don't you passon your phone number to me or suggest good nadi astrologer in Pune? Thanks, Regards, S. Hariharan+91-020-32940623 - WING COMMANDER (Retd) SHASHIKANT OAK @com Tuesday, April 15, 2008 1:55 PM Remakrs on Website naadiguruonweb.org This reply is not to convince anyone nor to impress everyone. Points raise on the website - 1)What about fees/charges? As indicated on the web page the web services are free. However the seeker will have to contact directly to the Naadi center of his choice and come to know his fees . We have avoided to mention any charges of any centers because it is up to them to decide. We had suggested to them while opening the site that they should avoid too much of variation of fees. 2) What is so special about this Website? In fact we want to know what difference you find ? We are not promoting any one Maharshi or any Naadi reader. Basically this website is to cater for the persons overseas. If anyone within India wishes to avail this service through website, they are welcome! Provided they pay the fees as charged for the oversees seekers. Even here We do not like to mention any fees of any Naadi Centre. 3) Superb cheating ! This type of remarks are expected. This is only beginning. As the time passes more brickbats are likely to be hurled at us. But never mind. Our aim is very clear. To inform about the message of the Maharshis to the interested persons. 4) To avoid the criticism of many in the past that Naadi readers extract the information though the conversation of by other methods. Option 2 in the procedure is suggested. The information table format is required to be filled by the seeker to keep the information handy to verify when the leaf is found out and the confirmation is needed. There is no button to submit that information. As seen in the Registration form it does not have any column of any details except the mane of the person, there also one can avoid writing his first name. That we the website operators are out to provide the information from information table format to the Naadicentres in secretive manner is the matter of imagination. However our denial wont convince any one. Hence we like o remain silent. Let other seekers speak after they experience. 5) Some months back case of Mr J was brought out in this forum. Fallowing is the study conducted. One can see that the detains are indicated in the leaf in poetic manner. The horoscope of the person form unknown place has been exactly drawn as if computer drawn. There are many words which are familiar to Sanskrit in the text. North Indians may be able to read them easily.This is not an attempt to bring out the supremacy of any language. 6) Tamil experts may like to send remakrs on this. 7) One can get the link of computer drwawn details of the date 11 Sep 1961. by clicking Naadi in the text. MAHASIVA NAADI Please Note:- Where ever the translation has been a shade dissimilar or more clear that portion has been indicated for the easy understanding. The horoscope of the person as could be seen from the website made horoscope is appended for confirmation of the meanings. In some places some similarities of the words resembling to Sanskrit are indicated in DevNagri. Especially for the benefit of Non-Tamil but Sanskirt knowing lovers. GENERAL KANDAM 1st Om Maha Ganapathy Thunai Aadhi siva sankariyin thiruthaal pottri aanoruvan podhukanda vilaka satchi (साकà¥à¤·à¥€ - )othiduven manimakuda (मणिमà¥à¤•à¥à¤Ÿ) vatta rekai (ऱेखा)otthairu pulliyadum vala kara thil karam(करम)arathu pilavaa aandu maathingal आवनी मासम kaanmathi (सोम) varam (वारम)athil irupanar(२६ तिथी ) thigathi satramathi varamathil astha (हसà¥à¤¤ - नकà¥à¤·à¤¤à¥à¤°)menum salavi (कà¥à¤‚à¤à¤®)sikiullay (केतà¥) rave (रवी-) paamlu (राहू) venkai (सिंह) – राशि के याने पांचवे सà¥à¤¥à¤¾à¤¨ में 3) venkaiyudan silai mudavan (शनि) mannan (गà¥à¤°à¥) manil मकर राशि याने १०वे सà¥à¤¥à¤¾à¤¨ में ) vayal thingal (चंदà¥à¤°) matra (अनà¥à¤¯) kol (गà¥à¤°à¤¹) pennilama (कनà¥à¤¯à¤¾ राशि याने ६ वे सà¥à¤¥à¤¾à¤¨ में) > mangalamai navakolam ivaarusutra > magan pirapu narkudilil thondrivaazvaan FROM THE ABOVE PLANETORY POSITION EXCEPT VENUS SHUKRA ALL OTHER STARS ARE EXACTLY PLACED -WITH DATE 11SEP 1961!(AS THE DATE OF BIRTH IN EUROPE COUNTRY ( I PRESUMED TO BE IN DENMARK KOPENHEGAN> TIME 23:30. Naadi (Please right click on Naadi word to open hyper link to see computer generated Horoscope.) > Rashi Chart********************************************************* * * * *AS 23:13 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ********************************************************* *KE 03:49 * *VE 22:34 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *************** *************** *SAR00:08 * *RA 03:49 * *JUR04:14 * *SU 25:37 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ********************************************************* * * * *MO 15:43 * * * * *ME 17:14 * * * * *MA 23:25 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ********************************************************* > 4) thotramadum esuvarkam (ईशà¥à¤µà¤°à¤®à¥ - ईसाई धरà¥à¤®) eendravar (माता-पिता) thurkum(दीरेà¥à¤˜à¤® - जीवित) > thaadai(तात - पिता)mun thondadimai (Private Job ) idunaal (Presently) oivu (Retired) > kirudivalam thara kudumbam (कà¥à¤Ÿà¥à¤‚बम) annaiyum paynee > kaanavay attanpaynee idunaal annai > > 5) annai magan illamundu vaaganambol > annalum pirathadthil maatranidam > vannamura runathirkaaga vithuvazvu > vanivanum nunukalvi varai (Drawing ) pada (Map) kattidam (Big Buildings) > > 6) kattudamudan thondadimai paechivanigam > katidakuk rasayana (रसायन) kalavi pandam > ittamudan semiputhadam paniyumkooda > idaikalam matramudan suyamai muyarchi > > 7) muyarchiyudan runampala manamakee vazvui > manathavaram illaporupu chevimandam > thayakanilla seyyanor thodarkalvi > thayum sei othuvaz pothupalanum kaana > > 8) ghana (Seeker's)paer (name) jeffrey scott williams > koorathan Father's - andrew francis williams paer > annaiyaval (Mother's ) catherine dianamary thaaram (Wife) > aagiyavaiya (At the age)dum noolaivaan(Seeker) noo(Actually) naarsoolam (43rd Year) > Second despatch Ends. 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Guest guest Posted April 16, 2008 Report Share Posted April 16, 2008 DEAR FRIENDS, IT SEEMS THAT THE DEVNAGARI WORDS IN BRACKET REGARDING PARA 7 OF MY MAIL HAS NOT APPEARED. IN THE TEXT. IF ANY ONE CAN INFROM HOW TO RECTIFY THIS, PLEASE HELP. Wing Commander Shashikant Oak. Pune, India. Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2008 Report Share Posted April 16, 2008 Dear Mr Oak Typing your message out in MS word and then adding it to the files section or attaching it to your message as an attachment may solve the problem. Thanking You Hari , SHASHIKANT OAK <shashikantoak wrote: > > DEAR FRIENDS, > IT SEEMS THAT THE DEVNAGARI WORDS IN BRACKET REGARDING PARA 7 OF MY MAIL HAS NOT APPEARED. IN THE TEXT. IF ANY ONE CAN INFROM HOW TO RECTIFY THIS, PLEASE HELP. > > > Wing Commander Shashikant Oak. Pune, India. > > > Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2008 Report Share Posted April 16, 2008 Shashikant Oak ji, Thanks for your timely reply. On first hand, I would like thank you on the last part of the mail which was really good for the queries like horoscopes getting read in naadi leafs. That also confirms your vast knowledge on naadi and your vast experience. This also shows that there is no need for naadi astrologer to ask for time of birth from naadi seekers as everything is available on leaf itself. Still most readers ask for it. This has been raised in previous posts. You managed to clear the actual truth I suppose for most people I suppose. The good thing about reply ends here for me. As you aware remarks on your website are more about the intentions of it and how it operates rather than checking the authenticity of naadi astrology. You have side tracked the main issue and sent your research mail which is not at all answering most of remarks raised by members here. YOUR REPLY DID NOT CONVINCE ME YET, NOR IMPRESSED ME with regards naadiguruonweb.org. I you look at my mail, I have posted about eight questions pertaining to your website (if it’s yours). I don’t think you managed to clear any of those eight queries except one may be. If you really cared about members here and in general about the naadi seeking people , you would have cleared each and every point with open mind and not only that you would have taken each ones suggestions and implement into your site. Why can’t you do that? May I ask you single question of what is the purpose of hiding naadi reader’s addresses and fees? Isn’t it like bit like Real Estate Broker not revealing the address, contact numbers of prospective buyers or sellers to opposite party , in case they approach directly and suffer loss of 2 percent commission . This is just an example, however isn’t it the site operating the same way? Where is your intention of serving public here? If you display the addresses and fees directly on site, does the process won’t work properly? I am sure whoever is handling the free job of accepting registrations and passing them to panel of astrologers, coordinating between customer and naadi readers is doing immense social service. Also can we know who the real owner of the site is? I suppose Uday Mehta. I am not sure in what capacity you are promoting the site. Now if in future if I am not satisfied with a service of particular naadi reader and I want to sue him, who would come into picture? Naadiguruonweb cannot absolve of it as they are accepting registrations from members. These are rare cases, but it happened many times in India. You can check on Google. Shashikant ji, if ordinary person opens a site like this, I would not be surprised and in fact would have appreciated his business skills. However for a person like you on whom members have deep faith opening site like this amount to blatant cheating / scam. This is my personal opinion; everybody doesn’t have to agree with me. I don’t have anything personal against you also. I had ample time to write such a long mail, may not write in future. My last request:-- Please upload all your books in text form on your website for the general welfare of the naadi knowledge seeking public as you are keen on doing welfare of the people with nonprofit intentions. That will surely clear all doubts of the members here. Just a suggestion if you interested. My comments on your replies before I take a leave. 1)What about fees/charges? As indicated on the web page the web services are free. However the seeker will have to contact directly to the Naadi center of his choice and come to know his fees . We have avoided to mention any charges of any centers because it is up to them to decide. We had suggested to them while opening the site that they should avoid too much of variation of fees. è You are the controller and owner of the site and you should decide the structure and theme of it, not the readers I suppose. Site is always customer oriented, not supply oriented. 2) What is so special about this Website? In fact we want to know what difference you find ? We are not promoting any one Maharshi or any Naadi reader. Basically this website is to cater for the persons overseas. If anyone within India wishes to avail this service through website, they are welcome! Provided they pay the fees as charged for the oversees seekers. Even here We do not like to mention any fees of any Naadi Centre. è That’s escapist answer. Shows you don’t feel anything special about your website. 3) Superb cheating ! This type of remarks are expected. This is only beginning. As the time passes more brickbats are likely to be hurled at us. But never mind. Our aim is very clear. To inform about the message of the Maharshis to the interested persons. è You are not informing, you are collecting the customers and giving it to the naadi readers who is charging fees from the customers in turn. That’s business, not passing the message of maharishis. 4) To avoid the criticism of many in the past that Naadi readers extract the information though the conversation of by other methods. Option 2 in the procedure is suggested. The information table format is required to be filled by the seeker to keep the information handy to verify when the leaf is found out and the confirmation is needed. There is no button to submit that information. As seen in the Registration form it does not have any column of any details except the mane of the person, there also one can avoid writing his first name. That we the website operators are out to provide the information from information table format to the Naadicentres in secretive manner is the matter of imagination. However our denial wont convince any one. Hence we like o remain silent. Let other seekers speak after they experience. è Whether button is Submit or Save, it’s not important, but there is button to save the data at your end. Previously this data was at the feedback button too. Website operators providing secretive information about this saved data to naadi centers?? (you mean we have dedicated operators too. Now there are lots of questions itself in this answer. Sentence itself shows lot of meanings) Rest of answers were good one but not related to this topic. Apologies for this blunt mail. Hope you take my criticism positively. Thanks a lot. Rohit "WING COMMANDER (Retd) SHASHIKANT OAK" <shashikantoak wrote: This reply is not to convince anyone nor to impress everyone. Points raise on the website - 1)What about fees/charges? As indicated on the web page the web services are free. However the seeker will have to contact directly to the Naadi center of his choice and come to know his fees . We have avoided to mention any charges of any centers because it is up to them to decide. We had suggested to them while opening the site that they should avoid too much of variation of fees. 2) What is so special about this Website? In fact we want to know what difference you find ? We are not promoting any one Maharshi or any Naadi reader. Basically this website is to cater for the persons overseas. If anyone within India wishes to avail this service through website, they are welcome! Provided they pay the fees as charged for the oversees seekers. Even here We do not like to mention any fees of any Naadi Centre. 3) Superb cheating ! This type of remarks are expected. This is only beginning. As the time passes more brickbats are likely to be hurled at us. But never mind. Our aim is very clear. To inform about the message of the Maharshis to the interested persons. 4) To avoid the criticism of many in the past that Naadi readers extract the information though the conversation of by other methods. Option 2 in the procedure is suggested. The information table format is required to be filled by the seeker to keep the information handy to verify when the leaf is found out and the confirmation is needed. There is no button to submit that information. As seen in the Registration form it does not have any column of any details except the mane of the person, there also one can avoid writing his first name. That we the website operators are out to provide the information from information table format to the Naadicentres in secretive manner is the matter of imagination. However our denial wont convince any one. Hence we like o remain silent. Let other seekers speak after they experience. 5) Some months back case of Mr J was brought out in this forum. Fallowing is the study conducted. One can see that the detains are indicated in the leaf in poetic manner. The horoscope of the person form unknown place has been exactly drawn as if computer drawn. There are many words which are familiar to Sanskrit in the text. North Indians may be able to read them easily.This is not an attempt to bring out the supremacy of any language. 6) Tamil experts may like to send remakrs on this. 7) One can get the link of computer drwawn details of the date 11 Sep 1961. by clicking Naadi in the text. MAHASIVA NAADI Please Note:- Where ever the translation has been a shade dissimilar or more clear that portion has been indicated for the easy understanding. The horoscope of the person as could be seen from the website made horoscope is appended for confirmation of the meanings. In some places some similarities of the words resembling to Sanskrit are indicated in DevNagri. Especially for the benefit of Non-Tamil but Sanskirt knowing lovers. GENERAL KANDAM 1st Om Maha Ganapathy Thunai Aadhi siva sankariyin thiruthaal pottri aanoruvan podhukanda vilaka satchi (साकà¥à¤·à¥€ - )othiduven manimakuda (मणिमà¥à¤•à¥à¤Ÿ) vatta rekai (ऱेखा)otthairu pulliyadum vala kara thil karam(करम)arathu pilavaa aandu maathingal आवनी मासम kaanmathi (सोम) varam (वारम)athil irupanar(२६ तिथी ) thigathi satramathi varamathil astha (हसà¥à¤¤ - नकà¥à¤·à¤¤à¥à¤°)menum salavi (कà¥à¤‚à¤à¤®)sikiullay (केतà¥) rave (रवी-) paamlu (राहू) venkai (सिंह) – राशि के याने पांचवे सà¥à¤¥à¤¾à¤¨ में 3) venkaiyudan silai mudavan (शनि) mannan (गà¥à¤°à¥) manil मकर राशि याने १०वे सà¥à¤¥à¤¾à¤¨ में ) vayal thingal (चंदà¥à¤°) matra (अनà¥à¤¯) kol (गà¥à¤°à¤¹) pennilama (कनà¥à¤¯à¤¾ राशि याने ६ वे सà¥à¤¥à¤¾à¤¨ में) > mangalamai navakolam ivaarusutra > magan pirapu narkudilil thondrivaazvaan FROM THE ABOVE PLANETORY POSITION EXCEPT VENUS SHUKRA ALL OTHER STARS ARE EXACTLY PLACED -WITH DATE 11SEP 1961!(AS THE DATE OF BIRTH IN EUROPE COUNTRY ( I PRESUMED TO BE IN DENMARK KOPENHEGAN> TIME 23:30. Naadi (Please right click on Naadi word to open hyper link to see computer generated Horoscope.) > Rashi Chart********************************************************* * * * *AS 23:13 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ********************************************************* *KE 03:49 * *VE 22:34 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *************** *************** *SAR00:08 * *RA 03:49 * *JUR04:14 * *SU 25:37 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ********************************************************* * * * *MO 15:43 * * * * *ME 17:14 * * * * *MA 23:25 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ********************************************************* > 4) thotramadum esuvarkam (ईशà¥à¤µà¤°à¤®à¥ - ईसाई धरà¥à¤®) eendravar (माता-पिता) thurkum(दीरेà¥à¤˜à¤® - जीवित) > thaadai(तात - पिता)mun thondadimai (Private Job ) idunaal (Presently) oivu (Retired) > kirudivalam thara kudumbam (कà¥à¤Ÿà¥à¤‚बम) annaiyum paynee > kaanavay attanpaynee idunaal annai > > 5) annai magan illamundu vaaganambol > annalum pirathadthil maatranidam > vannamura runathirkaaga vithuvazvu > vanivanum nunukalvi varai (Drawing ) pada (Map) kattidam (Big Buildings) > > 6) kattudamudan thondadimai paechivanigam > katidakuk rasayana (रसायन) kalavi pandam > ittamudan semiputhadam paniyumkooda > idaikalam matramudan suyamai muyarchi > > 7) muyarchiyudan runampala manamakee vazvui > manathavaram illaporupu chevimandam > thayakanilla seyyanor thodarkalvi > thayum sei othuvaz pothupalanum kaana > > 8) ghana (Seeker's)paer (name) jeffrey scott williams > koorathan Father's - andrew francis williams paer > annaiyaval (Mother's ) catherine dianamary thaaram (Wife) > aagiyavaiya (At the age)dum noolaivaan(Seeker) noo(Actually) naarsoolam (43rd Year) > Second despatch Ends. 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