Horoscope rectification, based on Nadi Horoscope

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After I got my Nadi reading done in 2004, I noticed that there was quite a bit of difference between my Nadi horoscope and my traditional horoscope cast by an astrologer. To date, only one out of the five predictions made by the Nadi reader has come true. I must also add that none of the predictions based on my traditional horoscope made by several astrologers over the past 10 years has come true for me. Hence my questions below:

 

A. I want to ask the astrologers on this mailing list, should one get one's traditional horoscope rectified based on the Nadi horoscope?

 

B. Has anyone got this done and how accurate were the predictions made by the rectified horoscope?

 

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Dear Mr. Deepak,

 

I too had same experience. When astrologers say this will happen that

will happen, only 1 out 10 or what he told happened. But in naadi the

accuracy is more than 60%. The reason, I found was Tirukanitham based

charts, these astrologers follow and say only turukanitam is correct

where as naadi's and even our grand parents were using or used only

Vakiya horoscopes and those predictions were wright to a great extent.

 

And there is always difference between these two systems. Take for

instance: in my chart: in 4th house sun alone is there and 5th is

occupied by Venus, Mercury and kethu this is according to vakiya and

as per tirukanitha: sun and Venus in 4th house and mercury and kethu

in 5th house.

 

For my sister the charts in both are same but dasa balance is

different. And every astrologer follows different calculation for dasa

periods.

 

Regards

 

Dhinakar

rdhinakar4477

, deepak tuteja <deepakpt wrote:

>

> After I got my Nadi reading done in 2004, I noticed that there was

quite a bit of difference between my Nadi horoscope and my traditional

horoscope cast by an astrologer. To date, only one out of the five

predictions made by the Nadi reader has come true. I must also add

that none of the predictions based on my traditional horoscope made by

several astrologers over the past 10 years has come true for me. Hence

my questions below:

>

> A. I want to ask the astrologers on this mailing list, should one

get one's traditional horoscope rectified based on the Nadi horoscope?

>

> B. Has anyone got this done and how accurate were the predictions

made by the rectified horoscope?

>

> Deepak

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Hare rama krishna

dear deepak ji

 

No u shud not base nadi horoscope ( means what ever they r giving ) for birth rectifications .Unless the astrologer is wel versed in nadi amsa s which is not a part of nadi leaf reading and its purely based on certian laid out principles and its explained in deva keralam ( chandra kala nadi ) .but now the technic very much hidden .

Now coming to nadi horoscope and traditional horoscope .

 

each is based on diffrnt calculations .I blv tiruganitha is drigganitha propounded by sri parameswaran nampoothiri and it also lost its accuracy over yrs of time .But absence of correct principles and ignorence some ppl r still using it .Now even in kerala where first it was originatd is not using for 100s of yrs .

 

The traditional astrology also can giv good predictions if the astrologer is good .

U can see nadi ppl r giving certain age for frutification of results and its based on trsnits only .Unless u found ur correct leaf u need not blv their predictions .But why it also fail is the ppl with same planetary disposition are in 10000s and so again due to some exceptions it will not work out .Think sani in a rasi for 2.5 yrs and jup is in a rasi for almost 1 yr ,so any body born in those one yr s time will hav major planets in same signs and its progressions need not work the way they say .and now population explosion ,u know the number is keep on increasing and do u think every one will hav same destiny ??

I can say this much only .But one thing the traditional vedic astrology is well equiped to giv u any answers and only problem is lack of classicaly traditionaly trained astrologers .Yhe reasons r many ,one is our english education system which totaly disregrd our sanskrit mode of learning and then other problem is lack of respect and remunarations .Now a days may be very few astroloers may be very well paid where as any other profssions are much much lucrativ .

An electrician may be earning more than a normal village astrologer for amnt of time they spend .

so u can understand the diffrnce .

as regrds to vedic astrology and nadi astrology ( if its not purely leaf reading ) both hav very well laid out sastra back ground and some one needs to spend decades on studying it ,so only persons who realy sacrificed their life ( who will do it ??these days unless he born like that and no other oblications or pressures )

for example u can see non of the 500 princly states in pre independent india was employd Nadi astrologers ( rather readers ) for their palace Any where is history .

 

So the message is very clear ,

 

regrds sunil nair

 

om shreem mahalaxmai namah

, deepak tuteja <deepakpt wrote:>> After I got my Nadi reading done in 2004, I noticed that there was quite a bit of difference between my Nadi horoscope and my traditional horoscope cast by an astrologer. To date, only one out of the five predictions made by the Nadi reader has come true. I must also add that none of the predictions based on my traditional horoscope made by several astrologers over the past 10 years has come true for me. Hence my questions below:> > A. I want to ask the astrologers on this mailing list, should one get one's traditional horoscope rectified based on the Nadi horoscope? > > B. Has anyone got this done and how accurate were the predictions made by the rectified horoscope?> > Deepak

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Dear Deepak & Dhinakar,

I have been trying to find out the system of making

charts in Naadi Astrology and I have been requesting

members to provide the details of their date of birth,

time of birth and place of birth together with the

planetary positions as given in their Naadi. There are

two major systems of chart making- one based on moving

zodiac also called Nirayana System and the other based

on fixed zodiac called Sayana System.I have highly

precise astrology/ astronomy software based on the

data of planetary positions released by the JPL-NASA

with which I can make chart for any event 10K + -

years.

I look forward to your cooperation.

Shubham Bhavatu !

 

VB Deshmukh

--- rdhinakar4477 <dhinakarrajaram wrote:

 

> 09/06/2008

>

> Dear Mr. Deepak,

>

> I too had same experience. When astrologers say this

> will happen that

> will happen, only 1 out 10 or what he told happened.

> But in naadi the

> accuracy is more than 60%. The reason, I found was

> Tirukanitham based

> charts, these astrologers follow and say only

> turukanitam is correct

> where as naadi's and even our grand parents were

> using or used only

> Vakiya horoscopes and those predictions were wright

> to a great extent.

>

> And there is always difference between these two

> systems. Take for

> instance: in my chart: in 4th house sun alone is

> there and 5th is

> occupied by Venus, Mercury and kethu this is

> according to vakiya and

> as per tirukanitha: sun and Venus in 4th house and

> mercury and kethu

> in 5th house.

>

> For my sister the charts in both are same but dasa

> balance is

> different. And every astrologer follows different

> calculation for dasa

> periods.

>

> Regards

>

> Dhinakar

> rdhinakar4477

> , deepak tuteja

> <deepakpt wrote:

> >

> > After I got my Nadi reading done in 2004, I

> noticed that there was

> quite a bit of difference between my Nadi horoscope

> and my traditional

> horoscope cast by an astrologer. To date, only one

> out of the five

> predictions made by the Nadi reader has come true. I

> must also add

> that none of the predictions based on my traditional

> horoscope made by

> several astrologers over the past 10 years has come

> true for me. Hence

> my questions below:

> >

> > A. I want to ask the astrologers on this mailing

> list, should one

> get one's traditional horoscope rectified based on

> the Nadi horoscope?

> >

> > B. Has anyone got this done and how accurate were

> the predictions

> made by the rectified horoscope?

> >

> > Deepak

> >

>

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Hare Krishna, hare Rama

 

Dear Sunilji,

 

Thank you very much for your detailed comments which explain the present situation. Hopefully, with increasing awareness, enlightened people will re-enter this profession and will be compensated handsomely for their efforts as in the days of old and also Sanskrit will make a revival in our schools. It is being taught in a leading high school in the UK with excellent academic and extra mural results.

 

Regards

Deepak

 

 

From: astro_tellerkeralaDate: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 23:45:01 +0000 Re: Horoscope rectification, based on Nadi Horoscope

 

 

 

 

Hare rama krishna

dear deepak ji

 

No u shud not base nadi horoscope ( means what ever they r giving ) for birth rectifications .Unless the astrologer is wel versed in nadi amsa s which is not a part of nadi leaf reading and its purely based on certian laid out principles and its explained in deva keralam ( chandra kala nadi ) .but now the technic very much hidden .

Now coming to nadi horoscope and traditional horoscope .

 

each is based on diffrnt calculations .I blv tiruganitha is drigganitha propounded by sri parameswaran nampoothiri and it also lost its accuracy over yrs of time .But absence of correct principles and ignorence some ppl r still using it .Now even in kerala where first it was originatd is not using for 100s of yrs .

 

The traditional astrology also can giv good predictions if the astrologer is good .

U can see nadi ppl r giving certain age for frutification of results and its based on trsnits only .Unless u found ur correct leaf u need not blv their predictions .But why it also fail is the ppl with same planetary disposition are in 10000s and so again due to some exceptions it will not work out .Think sani in a rasi for 2.5 yrs and jup is in a rasi for almost 1 yr ,so any body born in those one yr s time will hav major planets in same signs and its progressions need not work the way they say .and now population explosion ,u know the number is keep on increasing and do u think every one will hav same destiny ??

I can say this much only .But one thing the traditional vedic astrology is well equiped to giv u any answers and only problem is lack of classicaly traditionaly trained astrologers .Yhe reasons r many ,one is our english education system which totaly disregrd our sanskrit mode of learning and then other problem is lack of respect and remunarations .Now a days may be very few astroloers may be very well paid where as any other profssions are much much lucrativ .

An electrician may be earning more than a normal village astrologer for amnt of time they spend .

so u can understand the diffrnce .

as regrds to vedic astrology and nadi astrology ( if its not purely leaf reading ) both hav very well laid out sastra back ground and some one needs to spend decades on studying it ,so only persons who realy sacrificed their life ( who will do it ??these days unless he born like that and no other oblications or pressures )

for example u can see non of the 500 princly states in pre independent india was employd Nadi astrologers ( rather readers ) for their palace Any where is history .

 

So the message is very clear ,

 

regrds sunil nair

 

om shreem mahalaxmai namah

, deepak tuteja <deepakpt wrote:>> After I got my Nadi reading done in 2004, I noticed that there was quite a bit of difference between my Nadi horoscope and my traditional horoscope cast by an astrologer. To date, only one out of the five predictions made by the Nadi reader has come true. I must also add that none of the predictions based on my traditional horoscope made by several astrologers over the past 10 years has come true for me. Hence my questions below:> > A. I want to ask the astrologers on this mailing list, should one get one's traditional horoscope rectified based on the Nadi horoscope? > > B. Has anyone got this done and how accurate were the predictions made by the rectified horoscope?> > Deepak

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Hare rama krishna

 

dear deepak ji

 

thanks and u r welcome sir

 

regrds sunil nair

om shreem mahalaxmai namah .

 

 

, deepak tuteja <deepakpt wrote:>> Hare Krishna, hare Rama> > Dear Sunilji,> > Thank you very much for your detailed comments which explain the present situation. Hopefully, with increasing awareness, enlightened people will re-enter this profession and will be compensated handsomely for their efforts as in the days of old and also Sanskrit will make a revival in our schools. It is being taught in a leading high school in the UK with excellent academic and extra mural results.> > Regards> Deepak> > > : astro_tellerkerala: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 23:45:01 +0000 Re: Horoscope rectification, based on Nadi Horoscope> > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > dear deepak ji > > No u shud not base nadi horoscope ( means what ever they r giving ) for birth rectifications .Unless the astrologer is wel versed in nadi amsa s which is not a part of nadi leaf reading and its purely based on certian laid out principles and its explained in deva keralam ( chandra kala nadi ) .but now the technic very much hidden .> Now coming to nadi horoscope and traditional horoscope .> > each is based on diffrnt calculations .I blv tiruganitha is drigganitha propounded by sri parameswaran nampoothiri and it also lost its accuracy over yrs of time .But absence of correct principles and ignorence some ppl r still using it .Now even in kerala where first it was originatd is not using for 100s of yrs .> > The traditional astrology also can giv good predictions if the astrologer is good .> U can see nadi ppl r giving certain age for frutification of results and its based on trsnits only .Unless u found ur correct leaf u need not blv their predictions .But why it also fail is the ppl with same planetary disposition are in 10000s and so again due to some exceptions it will not work out .Think sani in a rasi for 2.5 yrs and jup is in a rasi for almost 1 yr ,so any body born in those one yr s time will hav major planets in same signs and its progressions need not work the way they say .and now population explosion ,u know the number is keep on increasing and do u think every one will hav same destiny ??> I can say this much only .But one thing the traditional vedic astrology is well equiped to giv u any answers and only problem is lack of classicaly traditionaly trained astrologers .Yhe reasons r many ,one is our english education system which totaly disregrd our sanskrit mode of learning and then other problem is lack of respect and remunarations .Now a days may be very few astroloers may be very well paid where as any other profssions are much much lucrativ .> An electrician may be earning more than a normal village astrologer for amnt of time they spend .> so u can understand the diffrnce .> as regrds to vedic astrology and nadi astrology ( if its not purely leaf reading ) both hav very well laid out sastra back ground and some one needs to spend decades on studying it ,so only persons who realy sacrificed their life ( who will do it ??these days unless he born like that and no other oblications or pressures ) > for example u can see non of the 500 princly states in pre independent india was employd Nadi astrologers ( rather readers ) for their palace Any where is history .> > So the message is very clear ,> > regrds sunil nair > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > , deepak tuteja deepakpt@ wrote:>> After I got my Nadi reading done in 2004, I noticed that there was quite a bit of difference between my Nadi horoscope and my traditional horoscope cast by an astrologer. To date, only one out of the five predictions made by the Nadi reader has come true. I must also add that none of the predictions based on my traditional horoscope made by several astrologers over the past 10 years has come true for me. Hence my questions below:> > A. I want to ask the astrologers on this mailing list, should one get one's traditional horoscope rectified based on the Nadi horoscope? > > B. Has anyone got this done and how accurate were the predictions made by the rectified horoscope?> > Deepak> > > > > > > > _______________>

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Dear Sunil Nayar ji,

Have you read Vedang Jyotish- considered part of Vedas

? It is about Astronomy and NOT Astrology especially

predictive Astrology. Kindly quote any reference from

Vedas where all the planets and Rashis are mentioned.

There are references only about 27+1 Nakshatras - the

nakshatras which are visible to the naked eye and

please note that they are not at equal distance from

each other/ equally spaced in the cosmos. For the sake

of ease in calculations the so called Vedic Jyotihis

by mutual consent among themselves mathemetically

divided the the zodiac of 360 deg.into 27 equal parts

and assigned the names of actual Nakshatras ! That is

to say that these 27 divisional Nakshatras of 13.20

deg.each are manmade or artificial and they have

nothing to do with actual Nakshatras mentioned in

Vedas which can be actually spotted in the sky. I am

sorry to say that many astrologers even do not know

this basic difference. So, when a Jyotishi says that

moon is in paricular Nakshatra he is refering to these

divisional nakshatras and not the real Nakshatras.The

question which then arises is - how these artificial

/pseudo Nakshatras can deliver the fruits of the

actual Nakshatras ?

I am saying all this as a student of astrology and I

am open for correction in my views.

In my humble opinion the practice of astrology is a

voluntary selfless service offered to society without

any expectations as a social service which is service

to God. However, if you for whatever reason practise

it as a profession for your livlihood then it is a

different story. It will be a business like any other

business with all its plus and minus aspects. I

personally know an internationally known Indian

astrologer in Mumbai who charges Rs.5000 -10000 per

consultation with a waiting list of 15 days at any

given time. I also know an engineer from Pune who went

to US in the year 1968 to do MS in Engineering and

after doing that he did his Ph D in Engineering and

got a pretty good job with a fat salary. But soon he

lost his interest the job and took to the study of

astrology- a subject with which he had a nodding

aquaintance. With his brilliant intellect, he soon

mastered the subject,got practioner's licence and went

on to become the President of American Federation

ofAstrologers ( AFA), Corporate Astrology Consultant

for large MNCs, Personal consultancy ( $ 500 per

sitting), Lecture Tours throughout US ( you pay to

attend these lectures ) wrote half a dozen books and

is happily settled in US as a very busy professional

for the last 40 years !!.

In short, a professional will get only what he

deserves or is destined to get and therefore should

not grumble or envy other professionals.

Hope, you donot mistake my intentions in this post.

God Bless You and Good Luck,

VBD

 

--- sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala

wrote:

 

>

>

>

> Hare rama krishna

>

> dear deepak ji

>

>

>

> No u shud not base nadi horoscope ( means what ever

> they r giving ) for

> birth rectifications .Unless the astrologer is wel

> versed in nadi amsa s

> which is not a part of nadi leaf reading and its

> purely based on certian

> laid out principles and its explained in deva

> keralam ( chandra kala

> nadi ) .but now the technic very much hidden .

>

> Now coming to nadi horoscope and traditional

> horoscope .

>

>

>

> each is based on diffrnt calculations .I blv

> tiruganitha is drigganitha

> propounded by sri parameswaran nampoothiri and it

> also lost its accuracy

> over yrs of time .But absence of correct principles

> and ignorence some

> ppl r still using it .Now even in kerala where first

> it was originatd is

> not using for 100s of yrs .

>

>

>

> The traditional astrology also can giv good

> predictions if the

> astrologer is good .

>

> U can see nadi ppl r giving certain age for

> frutification of results and

> its based on trsnits only .Unless u found ur correct

> leaf u need not

> blv their predictions .But why it also fail is the

> ppl with same

> planetary disposition are in 10000s and so again due

> to some exceptions

> it will not work out .Think sani in a rasi for 2.5

> yrs and jup is in a

> rasi for almost 1 yr ,so any body born in those one

> yr s time will hav

> major planets in same signs and its progressions

> need not work the way

> they say .and now population explosion ,u know the

> number is keep on

> increasing and do u think every one will hav same

> destiny ??

>

> I can say this much only .But one thing the

> traditional vedic astrology

> is well equiped to giv u any answers and only

> problem is lack of

> classicaly traditionaly trained astrologers .Yhe

> reasons r many ,one is

> our english education system which totaly disregrd

> our sanskrit mode of

> learning and then other problem is lack of respect

> and remunarations

> .Now a days may be very few astroloers may be very

> well paid where as

> any other profssions are much much lucrativ .

>

> An electrician may be earning more than a normal

> village astrologer for

> amnt of time they spend .

>

> so u can understand the diffrnce .

>

> as regrds to vedic astrology and nadi astrology ( if

> its not purely leaf

> reading ) both hav very well laid out sastra back

> ground and some one

> needs to spend decades on studying it ,so only

> persons who realy

> sacrificed their life ( who will do it ??these days

> unless he born like

> that and no other oblications or pressures )

>

> for example u can see non of the 500 princly states

> in pre independent

> india was employd Nadi astrologers ( rather readers

> ) for their palace

> Any where is history .

>

>

>

> So the message is very clear ,

>

>

>

> regrds sunil nair

>

>

>

> om shreem mahalaxmai namah

>

>

> , deepak tuteja

> <deepakpt

> wrote:

> >

> > After I got my Nadi reading done in 2004, I

> noticed that there was

> quite a bit of difference between my Nadi horoscope

> and my traditional

> horoscope cast by an astrologer. To date, only one

> out of the five

> predictions made by the Nadi reader has come true. I

> must also add that

> none of the predictions based on my traditional

> horoscope made by

> several astrologers over the past 10 years has come

> true for me. Hence

> my questions below:

> >

> > A. I want to ask the astrologers on this mailing

> list, should one get

> one's traditional horoscope rectified based on the

> Nadi horoscope?

> >

> > B. Has anyone got this done and how accurate were

> the predictions made

> by the rectified horoscope?

> >

> > Deepak

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Deshmukh ji

 

Thanks for the interesting citing about the astrologer who is now president of AFA. Is it possible to have his name so that we may refer to the books written by him.

 

Regards.

 

Vivek Khurana

 

 

From: deshmukhvDate: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:13:09 +0100Re: Re: Horoscope rectification, based on Nadi Horoscope

 

 

 

Dear Sunil Nayar ji,Have you read Vedang Jyotish- considered part of Vedas? It is about Astronomy and NOT Astrology especiallypredictive Astrology. Kindly quote any reference fromVedas where all the planets and Rashis are mentioned.There are references only about 27+1 Nakshatras - thenakshatras which are visible to the naked eye andplease note that they are not at equal distance fromeach other/ equally spaced in the cosmos. For the sakeof ease in calculations the so called Vedic Jyotihisby mutual consent among themselves mathemeticallydivided the the zodiac of 360 deg.into 27 equal partsand assigned the names of actual Nakshatras ! That isto say that these 27 divisional Nakshatras of 13.20deg.each are manmade or artificial and they havenothing to do with actual Nakshatras mentioned inVedas which can be actually spotted in the sky. I amsorry to say that many astrologers even do not knowthis basic difference. So, when a Jyotishi says thatmoon is in paricular Nakshatra he is refering to thesedivisional nakshatras and not the real Nakshatras.Thequestion which then arises is - how these artificial/pseudo Nakshatras can deliver the fruits of theactual Nakshatras ?I am saying all this as a student of astrology and Iam open for correction in my views. In my humble opinion the practice of astrology is avoluntary selfless service offered to society withoutany expectations as a social service which is serviceto God. However, if you for whatever reason practiseit as a profession for your livlihood then it is adifferent story. It will be a business like any otherbusiness with all its plus and minus aspects. Ipersonally know an internationally known Indianastrologer in Mumbai who charges Rs.5000 -10000 per consultation with a waiting list of 15 days at anygiven time. I also know an engineer from Pune who wentto US in the year 1968 to do MS in Engineering andafter doing that he did his Ph D in Engineering andgot a pretty good job with a fat salary. But soon helost his interest the job and took to the study ofastrology- a subject with which he had a noddingaquaintance. With his brilliant intellect, he soonmastered the subject,got practioner's licence and wenton to become the President of American FederationofAstrologers ( AFA), Corporate Astrology Consultantfor large MNCs, Personal consultancy ( $ 500 persitting), Lecture Tours throughout US ( you pay toattend these lectures ) wrote half a dozen books andis happily settled in US as a very busy professionalfor the last 40 years !!.In short, a professional will get only what hedeserves or is destined to get and therefore shouldnot grumble or envy other professionals.Hope, you donot mistake my intentions in this post.God Bless You and Good Luck,VBD--- sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala (AT) (DOT) co.in>wrote:> > > > Hare rama krishna> > dear deepak ji> > > > No u shud not base nadi horoscope ( means what ever> they r giving ) for> birth rectifications .Unless the astrologer is wel> versed in nadi amsa s> which is not a part of nadi leaf reading and its> purely based on certian> laid out principles and its explained in deva> keralam ( chandra kala> nadi ) .but now the technic very much hidden .> > Now coming to nadi horoscope and traditional> horoscope .> > > > each is based on diffrnt calculations .I blv> tiruganitha is drigganitha> propounded by sri parameswaran nampoothiri and it> also lost its accuracy> over yrs of time .But absence of correct principles> and ignorence some> ppl r still using it .Now even in kerala where first> it was originatd is> not using for 100s of yrs .> > > > The traditional astrology also can giv good> predictions if the> astrologer is good .> > U can see nadi ppl r giving certain age for> frutification of results and> its based on trsnits only .Unless u found ur correct> leaf u need not> blv their predictions .But why it also fail is the> ppl with same> planetary disposition are in 10000s and so again due> to some exceptions> it will not work out .Think sani in a rasi for 2.5> yrs and jup is in a> rasi for almost 1 yr ,so any body born in those one> yr s time will hav> major planets in same signs and its progressions> need not work the way> they say .and now population explosion ,u know the> number is keep on> increasing and do u think every one will hav same> destiny ??> > I can say this much only .But one thing the> traditional vedic astrology> is well equiped to giv u any answers and only> problem is lack of> classicaly traditionaly trained astrologers .Yhe> reasons r many ,one is> our english education system which totaly disregrd> our sanskrit mode of> learning and then other problem is lack of respect> and remunarations> .Now a days may be very few astroloers may be very> well paid where as> any other profssions are much much lucrativ .> > An electrician may be earning more than a normal> village astrologer for> amnt of time they spend .> > so u can understand the diffrnce .> > as regrds to vedic astrology and nadi astrology ( if> its not purely leaf> reading ) both hav very well laid out sastra back> ground and some one> needs to spend decades on studying it ,so only> persons who realy> sacrificed their life ( who will do it ??these days> unless he born like> that and no other oblications or pressures )> > for example u can see non of the 500 princly states> in pre independent> india was employd Nadi astrologers ( rather readers> ) for their palace> Any where is history .> > > > So the message is very clear ,> > > > regrds sunil nair> > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah> > > , deepak tuteja> <deepakpt> wrote:> >> > After I got my Nadi reading done in 2004, I> noticed that there was> quite a bit of difference between my Nadi horoscope> and my traditional> horoscope cast by an astrologer. To date, only one> out of the five> predictions made by the Nadi reader has come true. I> must also add that> none of the predictions based on my traditional> horoscope made by> several astrologers over the past 10 years has come> true for me. Hence> my questions below:> >> > A. I want to ask the astrologers on this mailing> list, should one get> one's traditional horoscope rectified based on the> Nadi horoscope?> >> > B. Has anyone got this done and how accurate were> the predictions made> by the rectified horoscope?> >> > Deepak> > > Share files, take polls, and make new friends - all under one roof. Go to http://in.promos./groups/ WL Messenger : Stay connected to friends and family with the New . Get it now. Try it now!

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dear deshmukh ji

 

Thanks for ur advice .Vedanga means anga of vedas ,also astrology is known as chakshus of vedas ,means eye of vedas .

 

There are so many reference abt astrology in vedas but dont think its full text book of astrology ,Now ayurveda is considered as part of veda s means can show the yogas of medicine in vedas ????Same is storey of any branch of knowledge wheter dhanur veda ,or stapthya veda or anything .other wise every mantras and slokas are packed with hidden meanings of astro and various subjusts and ppl who study english translation need not understand it .

 

i know in maharbharath and ramayan there is reference ,also even yagnas they see muhurthas ,do u think muhurtha is not branch of astrology ?? or not mentioned in vedas .

 

dont u know kauravas approach twin brothers of pandavs for fixin muhurtha ,dont u know veda vyas was saying abt eclipses and and even full moon and black moon etc .but dont expect full lenght books as vedas for astrology .

i dont care u blv it or not ,and i am not vedic scholar to make u blv who blv in effort of others to solve ur problems .

 

also thanks for ur advice on free astro ,but in kerala we dont or never ever practise free astrology .if u want u can do it .On ur part .kerala has unborken tradition of astrology unlike other parts of india .

 

also sent u r kids and grand kids for doing free asto ,i know not only u but no one in north india wanted to do it because the idea is u want free every thing is based on ur selfishness but cant do it for others .pls preach wat u can or wat u practise .I asked similar question to many ppl .but think no hobbyist or part time scholar can do justice to free astrology unless his fate is like that .

 

I was not telling abt me ,i was answering the question of some one why the astrologers ( ur free astrologers ) dont predict correctly .its because no one wanted to b an astrologer as its free in ur spiritual land ,where as when there is respect and remunaration lot of young ppl will interested and will learn in proper way unlike other who wait for some calamity in their life and then knock on every astrologers irrespectiv of what they know .Then when every where fails they strt reading some street books and ask others to show them in vedas ,for ref of astrology .

Because the reason is simple if astro is free they must terrorise u to shell out money in the name of upay ( its what ur free astro has contributed ,not best astrologers )

But not in kerala ,i repeat not in kerala or even in south .As those ppl has self respect and they dont want anything free .

 

if some one charge or do free is his choice ,it should not depend on ur preaching .

 

if u blv astrology came frm russia or china i dont care .But stop this begging for free ,even free is others choice to giv .There u r on othr side not in commanding side ,pls think

 

regrds sunil nair

 

om shreem mahalaxmai namah

, vbdeshmukh <deshmukhv wrote:>> Dear Sunil Nayar ji,> Have you read Vedang Jyotish- considered part of Vedas> ? It is about Astronomy and NOT Astrology especially> predictive Astrology. Kindly quote any reference from> Vedas where all the planets and Rashis are mentioned.> There are references only about 27+1 Nakshatras - the> nakshatras which are visible to the naked eye and> please note that they are not at equal distance from> each other/ equally spaced in the cosmos. For the sake> of ease in calculations the so called Vedic Jyotihis> by mutual consent among themselves mathemetically> divided the the zodiac of 360 deg.into 27 equal parts> and assigned the names of actual Nakshatras ! That is> to say that these 27 divisional Nakshatras of 13.20> deg.each are manmade or artificial and they have> nothing to do with actual Nakshatras mentioned in> Vedas which can be actually spotted in the sky. I am> sorry to say that many astrologers even do not know> this basic difference. So, when a Jyotishi says that> moon is in paricular Nakshatra he is refering to these> divisional nakshatras and not the real Nakshatras.The> question which then arises is - how these artificial> /pseudo Nakshatras can deliver the fruits of the> actual Nakshatras ?> I am saying all this as a student of astrology and I> am open for correction in my views. > In my humble opinion the practice of astrology is a> voluntary selfless service offered to society without> any expectations as a social service which is service> to God. However, if you for whatever reason practise> it as a profession for your livlihood then it is a> different story. It will be a business like any other> business with all its plus and minus aspects. I> personally know an internationally known Indian> astrologer in Mumbai who charges Rs.5000 -10000 per > consultation with a waiting list of 15 days at any> given time. I also know an engineer from Pune who went> to US in the year 1968 to do MS in Engineering and> after doing that he did his Ph D in Engineering and> got a pretty good job with a fat salary. But soon he> lost his interest the job and took to the study of> astrology- a subject with which he had a nodding> aquaintance. With his brilliant intellect, he soon> mastered the subject,got practioner's licence and went> on to become the President of American Federation> ofAstrologers ( AFA), Corporate Astrology Consultant> for large MNCs, Personal consultancy ( $ 500 per> sitting), Lecture Tours throughout US ( you pay to> attend these lectures ) wrote half a dozen books and> is happily settled in US as a very busy professional> for the last 40 years !!.> In short, a professional will get only what he> deserves or is destined to get and therefore should> not grumble or envy other professionals.> Hope, you donot mistake my intentions in this post.> God Bless You and Good Luck,> VBD> > --- sunil nair astro_tellerkerala wrote:> > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna> > > > dear deepak ji> > > > > > > > No u shud not base nadi horoscope ( means what ever> > they r giving ) for> > birth rectifications .Unless the astrologer is wel> > versed in nadi amsa s> > which is not a part of nadi leaf reading and its> > purely based on certian> > laid out principles and its explained in deva> > keralam ( chandra kala> > nadi ) .but now the technic very much hidden .> > > > Now coming to nadi horoscope and traditional> > horoscope .> > > > > > > > each is based on diffrnt calculations .I blv> > tiruganitha is drigganitha> > propounded by sri parameswaran nampoothiri and it> > also lost its accuracy> > over yrs of time .But absence of correct principles> > and ignorence some> > ppl r still using it .Now even in kerala where first> > it was originatd is> > not using for 100s of yrs .> > > > > > > > The traditional astrology also can giv good> > predictions if the> > astrologer is good .> > > > U can see nadi ppl r giving certain age for> > frutification of results and> > its based on trsnits only .Unless u found ur correct> > leaf u need not> > blv their predictions .But why it also fail is the> > ppl with same> > planetary disposition are in 10000s and so again due> > to some exceptions> > it will not work out .Think sani in a rasi for 2.5> > yrs and jup is in a> > rasi for almost 1 yr ,so any body born in those one> > yr s time will hav> > major planets in same signs and its progressions> > need not work the way> > they say .and now population explosion ,u know the> > number is keep on> > increasing and do u think every one will hav same> > destiny ??> > > > I can say this much only .But one thing the> > traditional vedic astrology> > is well equiped to giv u any answers and only> > problem is lack of> > classicaly traditionaly trained astrologers .Yhe> > reasons r many ,one is> > our english education system which totaly disregrd> > our sanskrit mode of> > learning and then other problem is lack of respect> > and remunarations> > .Now a days may be very few astroloers may be very> > well paid where as> > any other profssions are much much lucrativ .> > > > An electrician may be earning more than a normal> > village astrologer for> > amnt of time they spend .> > > > so u can understand the diffrnce .> > > > as regrds to vedic astrology and nadi astrology ( if> > its not purely leaf> > reading ) both hav very well laid out sastra back> > ground and some one> > needs to spend decades on studying it ,so only> > persons who realy> > sacrificed their life ( who will do it ??these days> > unless he born like> > that and no other oblications or pressures )> > > > for example u can see non of the 500 princly states> > in pre independent> > india was employd Nadi astrologers ( rather readers> > ) for their palace> > Any where is history .> > > > > > > > So the message is very clear ,> > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair> > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah> > > > > > , deepak tuteja> > deepakpt@> > wrote:> > >> > > After I got my Nadi reading done in 2004, I> > noticed that there was> > quite a bit of difference between my Nadi horoscope> > and my traditional> > horoscope cast by an astrologer. To date, only one> > out of the five> > predictions made by the Nadi reader has come true. I> > must also add that> > none of the predictions based on my traditional> > horoscope made by> > several astrologers over the past 10 years has come> > true for me. Hence> > my questions below:> > >> > > A. I want to ask the astrologers on this mailing> > list, should one get> > one's traditional horoscope rectified based on the> > Nadi horoscope?> > >> > > B. Has anyone got this done and how accurate were> > the predictions made> > by the rectified horoscope?> > >> > > Deepak> > > > > > > > > > > > Share files, take polls, and make new friends - all under one roof. Go to http://in.promos./groups/>

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Dear Vivek,

The name of this engineer astrologer is

Mohan Koparkar, PH D.,

Mohan Enterprises,

PO.Box 8334,

Roch, NY.14618.

 

The following books were written by him till 1996. I

am not aware ofany other additions subsequently.

1. Aspects Magnified

2.Lunar Nodes

3.Degrees of the Zodiac Magnified

4.Precise Progressed Charts.

5.Moon Mansions

6.CarmieAnd OtherWorld ( Poetry )

He was President of AFA for a couple terms and I dot

know if he is the President now.

I intend to get his E Mail ID and would share with our

Group members.

Regards,

VBD

 

--- Vivek Khurana <vivekkhurana wrote:

 

> Dear Deshmukh ji

>

> Thanks for the interesting citing about the

> astrologer who is now president of AFA. Is it

> possible to have his name so that we may refer to

> the books written by him.

>

> Regards.

>

> Vivek Khurana

>

>

> :

> deshmukhv: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:13:09

> +0100Re: Re: Horoscope

> rectification, based on Nadi Horoscope

>

>

>

>

> Dear Sunil Nayar ji,Have you read Vedang Jyotish-

> considered part of Vedas? It is about Astronomy and

> NOT Astrology especiallypredictive Astrology. Kindly

> quote any reference fromVedas where all the planets

> and Rashis are mentioned.There are references only

> about 27+1 Nakshatras - thenakshatras which are

> visible to the naked eye andplease note that they

> are not at equal distance fromeach other/ equally

> spaced in the cosmos. For the sakeof ease in

> calculations the so called Vedic Jyotihisby mutual

> consent among themselves mathemeticallydivided the

> the zodiac of 360 deg.into 27 equal partsand

> assigned the names of actual Nakshatras ! That isto

> say that these 27 divisional Nakshatras of

> 13.20deg.each are manmade or artificial and they

> havenothing to do with actual Nakshatras mentioned

> inVedas which can be actually spotted in the sky. I

> amsorry to say that many astrologers even do not

> knowthis basic difference. So, when a Jyotishi says

> thatmoon is in paricular Nakshatra he is refering to

> thesedivisional nakshatras and not the real

> Nakshatras.Thequestion which then arises is - how

> these artificial/pseudo Nakshatras can deliver the

> fruits of theactual Nakshatras ?I am saying all this

> as a student of astrology and Iam open for

> correction in my views. In my humble opinion the

> practice of astrology is avoluntary selfless service

> offered to society withoutany expectations as a

> social service which is serviceto God. However, if

> you for whatever reason practiseit as a profession

> for your livlihood then it is adifferent story. It

> will be a business like any otherbusiness with all

> its plus and minus aspects. Ipersonally know an

> internationally known Indianastrologer in Mumbai who

> charges Rs.5000 -10000 per consultation with a

> waiting list of 15 days at anygiven time. I also

> know an engineer from Pune who wentto US in the year

> 1968 to do MS in Engineering andafter doing that he

> did his Ph D in Engineering andgot a pretty good job

> with a fat salary. But soon helost his interest the

> job and took to the study ofastrology- a subject

> with which he had a noddingaquaintance. With his

> brilliant intellect, he soonmastered the subject,got

> practioner's licence and wenton to become the

> President of American FederationofAstrologers (

> AFA), Corporate Astrology Consultantfor large MNCs,

> Personal consultancy ( $ 500 persitting), Lecture

> Tours throughout US ( you pay toattend these

> lectures ) wrote half a dozen books andis happily

> settled in US as a very busy professionalfor the

> last 40 years !!.In short, a professional will get

> only what hedeserves or is destined to get and

> therefore shouldnot grumble or envy other

> professionals.Hope, you donot mistake my intentions

> in this post.God Bless You and Good Luck,VBD---

> sunil nair <astro_tellerkeralawrote:> >

> > > Hare rama krishna> > dear deepak ji> > > > No u

> shud not base nadi horoscope ( means what ever> they

> r giving ) for> birth rectifications .Unless the

> astrologer is wel> versed in nadi amsa s> which is

> not a part of nadi leaf reading and its> purely

> based on certian> laid out principles and its

> explained in deva> keralam ( chandra kala> nadi )

> .but now the technic very much hidden .> > Now

> coming to nadi horoscope and traditional> horoscope

> .> > > > each is based on diffrnt calculations .I

> blv> tiruganitha is drigganitha> propounded by sri

> parameswaran nampoothiri and it> also lost its

> accuracy> over yrs of time .But absence of correct

> principles> and ignorence some> ppl r still using it

> .Now even in kerala where first> it was originatd

> is> not using for 100s of yrs .> > > > The

> traditional astrology also can giv good> predictions

> if the> astrologer is good .> > U can see nadi ppl r

> giving certain age for> frutification of results

> and> its based on trsnits only .Unless u found ur

> correct> leaf u need not> blv their predictions .But

> why it also fail is the> ppl with same> planetary

> disposition are in 10000s and so again due> to some

> exceptions> it will not work out .Think sani in a

> rasi for 2.5> yrs and jup is in a> rasi for almost 1

> yr ,so any body born in those one> yr s time will

> hav> major planets in same signs and its

> progressions> need not work the way> they say .and

> now population explosion ,u know the> number is keep

> on> increasing and do u think every one will hav

> same> destiny ??> > I can say this much only .But

> one thing the> traditional vedic astrology> is well

> equiped to giv u any answers and only> problem is

> lack of> classicaly traditionaly trained astrologers

> .Yhe> reasons r many ,one is> our english education

> system which totaly disregrd> our sanskrit mode of>

> learning and then other problem is lack of respect>

> and remunarations> .Now a days may be very few

> astroloers may be very> well paid where as> any

> other profssions are much much lucrativ .> > An

> electrician may be earning more than a normal>

> village astrologer for> amnt of time they spend .> >

> so u can understand the diffrnce .> > as regrds to

> vedic astrology and nadi astrology ( if> its not

> purely leaf> reading ) both hav very well laid out

> sastra back> ground and some one> needs to spend

> decades on studying it ,so only> persons who realy>

> sacrificed their life ( who will do it ??these days>

> unless he born like> that and no other oblications

> or pressures )> > for example u can see non of the

> 500 princly states> in pre independent> india was

> employd Nadi astrologers ( rather readers> ) for

> their palace> Any where is history .> > > > So the

> message is very clear ,> > > > regrds sunil nair> >

> > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah> > > --- In

> , deepak tuteja>

> <deepakpt> wrote:> >> > After I got my Nadi

> reading done in 2004, I> noticed that there was>

> quite a bit of difference between my Nadi horoscope>

> and my traditional> horoscope cast by an astrologer.

> To date, only one> out of the five> predictions made

> by the Nadi reader has come true. I> must also add

> that> none of the predictions based on my

> traditional> horoscope made by> several astrologers

> over the past 10 years has come> true for me. Hence>

> my questions below:> >> > A. I want to ask the

> astrologers on this mailing> list, should one get>

> one's traditional horoscope rectified based on the>

> Nadi horoscope?> >> > B. Has anyone got this done

> and how accurate were> the predictions made> by the

> rectified horoscope?> >> > Deepak> > > Share files,

> take polls, and make new friends - all under one

> roof. Go to http://in.promos./groups/

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Deshmukh ji

 

Thanks for providing the information. While I will definitely do some internet search on my own, which book of his would you recommend to a beginner like me.

 

Regards.

 

Vivek

 

 

From: deshmukhvDate: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 07:11:10 +0100RE: Re: Horoscope rectification, based on Nadi Horoscope

 

 

 

Dear Vivek,The name of this engineer astrologer isMohan Koparkar, PH D.,Mohan Enterprises,PO.Box 8334, Roch, NY.14618.The following books were written by him till 1996. Iam not aware ofany other additions subsequently.1. Aspects Magnified2.Lunar Nodes3.Degrees of the Zodiac Magnified4.Precise Progressed Charts.5.Moon Mansions6.CarmieAnd OtherWorld ( Poetry )He was President of AFA for a couple terms and I dotknow if he is the President now.I intend to get his E Mail ID and would share with ourGroup members.Regards, VBD--- Vivek Khurana <vivekkhurana (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:> Dear Deshmukh ji> > Thanks for the interesting citing about the> astrologer who is now president of AFA. Is it> possible to have his name so that we may refer to> the books written by him.> > Regards.> > Vivek Khurana> > > From:> deshmukhv (AT) (DOT) co.inDate: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:13:09> +0100Re: Re: Horoscope> rectification, based on Nadi Horoscope> > > > > Dear Sunil Nayar ji,Have you read Vedang Jyotish-> considered part of Vedas? It is about Astronomy and> NOT Astrology especiallypredictive Astrology. Kindly> quote any reference fromVedas where all the planets> and Rashis are mentioned.There are references only> about 27+1 Nakshatras - thenakshatras which are> visible to the naked eye andplease note that they> are not at equal distance fromeach other/ equally> spaced in the cosmos. For the sakeof ease in> calculations the so called Vedic Jyotihisby mutual> consent among themselves mathemeticallydivided the> the zodiac of 360 deg.into 27 equal partsand> assigned the names of actual Nakshatras ! That isto> say that these 27 divisional Nakshatras of> 13.20deg.each are manmade or artificial and they> havenothing to do with actual Nakshatras mentioned> inVedas which can be actually spotted in the sky. I> amsorry to say that many astrologers even do not> knowthis basic difference. So, when a Jyotishi says> thatmoon is in paricular Nakshatra he is refering to> thesedivisional nakshatras and not the real> Nakshatras.Thequestion which then arises is - how> these artificial/pseudo Nakshatras can deliver the> fruits of theactual Nakshatras ?I am saying all this> as a student of astrology and Iam open for> correction in my views. In my humble opinion the> practice of astrology is avoluntary selfless service> offered to society withoutany expectations as a> social service which is serviceto God. However, if> you for whatever reason practiseit as a profession> for your livlihood then it is adifferent story. It> will be a business like any otherbusiness with all> its plus and minus aspects. Ipersonally know an> internationally known Indianastrologer in Mumbai who> charges Rs.5000 -10000 per consultation with a> waiting list of 15 days at anygiven time. I also> know an engineer from Pune who wentto US in the year> 1968 to do MS in Engineering andafter doing that he> did his Ph D in Engineering andgot a pretty good job> with a fat salary. But soon helost his interest the> job and took to the study ofastrology- a subject> with which he had a noddingaquaintance. With his> brilliant intellect, he soonmastered the subject,got> practioner's licence and wenton to become the> President of American FederationofAstrologers (> AFA), Corporate Astrology Consultantfor large MNCs,> Personal consultancy ( $ 500 persitting), Lecture> Tours throughout US ( you pay toattend these> lectures ) wrote half a dozen books andis happily> settled in US as a very busy professionalfor the> last 40 years !!.In short, a professional will get> only what hedeserves or is destined to get and> therefore shouldnot grumble or envy other> professionals.Hope, you donot mistake my intentions> in this post.God Bless You and Good Luck,VBD---> sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala (AT) (DOT) co.in>wrote:> >> > > Hare rama krishna> > dear deepak ji> > > > No u> shud not base nadi horoscope ( means what ever> they> r giving ) for> birth rectifications .Unless the> astrologer is wel> versed in nadi amsa s> which is> not a part of nadi leaf reading and its> purely> based on certian> laid out principles and its> explained in deva> keralam ( chandra kala> nadi )> .but now the technic very much hidden .> > Now> coming to nadi horoscope and traditional> horoscope> .> > > > each is based on diffrnt calculations .I> blv> tiruganitha is drigganitha> propounded by sri> parameswaran nampoothiri and it> also lost its> accuracy> over yrs of time .But absence of correct> principles> and ignorence some> ppl r still using it> .Now even in kerala where first> it was originatd> is> not using for 100s of yrs .> > > > The> traditional astrology also can giv good> predictions> if the> astrologer is good .> > U can see nadi ppl r> giving certain age for> frutification of results> and> its based on trsnits only .Unless u found ur> correct> leaf u need not> blv their predictions .But> why it also fail is the> ppl with same> planetary> disposition are in 10000s and so again due> to some> exceptions> it will not work out .Think sani in a> rasi for 2.5> yrs and jup is in a> rasi for almost 1> yr ,so any body born in those one> yr s time will> hav> major planets in same signs and its> progressions> need not work the way> they say .and> now population explosion ,u know the> number is keep> on> increasing and do u think every one will hav> same> destiny ??> > I can say this much only .But> one thing the> traditional vedic astrology> is well> equiped to giv u any answers and only> problem is> lack of> classicaly traditionaly trained astrologers> .Yhe> reasons r many ,one is> our english education> system which totaly disregrd> our sanskrit mode of>> learning and then other problem is lack of respect>> and remunarations> .Now a days may be very few> astroloers may be very> well paid where as> any> other profssions are much much lucrativ .> > An> electrician may be earning more than a normal>> village astrologer for> amnt of time they spend .> >> so u can understand the diffrnce .> > as regrds to> vedic astrology and nadi astrology ( if> its not> purely leaf> reading ) both hav very well laid out> sastra back> ground and some one> needs to spend> decades on studying it ,so only> persons who realy>> sacrificed their life ( who will do it ??these days>> unless he born like> that and no other oblications> or pressures )> > for example u can see non of the> 500 princly states> in pre independent> india was> employd Nadi astrologers ( rather readers> ) for> their palace> Any where is history .> > > > So the> message is very clear ,> > > > regrds sunil nair> >> > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah> > > --- In> , deepak tuteja>> <deepakpt> wrote:> >> > After I got my Nadi> reading done in 2004, I> noticed that there was>> quite a bit of difference between my Nadi horoscope>> and my traditional> horoscope cast by an astrologer.> To date, only one> out of the five> predictions made> by the Nadi reader has come true. I> must also add> that> none of the predictions based on my> traditional> horoscope made by> several astrologers> over the past 10 years has come> true for me. Hence>> my questions below:> >> > A. I want to ask the> astrologers on this mailing> list, should one get>> one's traditional horoscope rectified based on the>> Nadi horoscope?> >> > B. Has anyone got this done> and how accurate were> the predictions made> by the> rectified horoscope?> >> > Deepak> > > Share files,> take polls, and make new friends - all under one> roof. Go to http://in.promos./groups/ > > > > > > >________> 2000 Placements last year. Are You next ? Find out> http://ss1.richmedia.in/recurl.asp?pid=499Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Go to http://in.promos./groups/bestof/ Placements ? No Problem. Register Here! Try it!

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Hare rama krishna

 

dear group and deshmukh ji

 

Nakhsatras r not single one called star s ( not u r twinkle twinkle lil star ) its one meghala ( area ) in zodiac and eccliptic path of which is considered as 360 degrees ( yes we got maths and every thing frm out side and we were fools ) mean a cluster of stars is called nakshatras ( meaning which doesnot move ) ,this is the problem with ppl who leran and think in english way .

 

so aswini is looking like Horse head and its in aries 0 to 13 degree 20 minits area .So leav ur false ideas and u need to search real guru than reading some books ,forget who collects wat fees in dollars ,all of them dont know the real essense of astrology .

 

also dont confuse with sayana and Nirayana planetary positions .

 

Our ancesters has real reasons behind it and unlike some one says its made up and then saying its devine professions and we shud not charge ( if its made up and false how he calls it is devine profession ) .

Again he is doubt full abt applicability of astrology then he says he is student then confused ,so i dont know what is mission of him this grp or any astro grp

 

regrds sunil nair

 

om shreem mahalaxmai namah

, vbdeshmukh <deshmukhv wrote:>> Dear Sunil Nayar ji,> Have you read Vedang Jyotish- considered part of Vedas> ? It is about Astronomy and NOT Astrology especially> predictive Astrology. Kindly quote any reference from> Vedas where all the planets and Rashis are mentioned.> There are references only about 27+1 Nakshatras - the> nakshatras which are visible to the naked eye and> please note that they are not at equal distance from> each other/ equally spaced in the cosmos. For the sake> of ease in calculations the so called Vedic Jyotihis> by mutual consent among themselves mathemetically> divided the the zodiac of 360 deg.into 27 equal parts> and assigned the names of actual Nakshatras ! That is> to say that these 27 divisional Nakshatras of 13.20> deg.each are manmade or artificial and they have> nothing to do with actual Nakshatras mentioned in> Vedas which can be actually spotted in the sky. I am> sorry to say that many astrologers even do not know> this basic difference. So, when a Jyotishi says that> moon is in paricular Nakshatra he is refering to these> divisional nakshatras and not the real Nakshatras.The> question which then arises is - how these artificial> /pseudo Nakshatras can deliver the fruits of the> actual Nakshatras ?> I am saying all this as a student of astrology and I> am open for correction in my views. > In my humble opinion the practice of astrology is a> voluntary selfless service offered to society without> any expectations as a social service which is service> to God. However, if you for whatever reason practise> it as a profession for your livlihood then it is a> different story. It will be a business like any other> business with all its plus and minus aspects. I> personally know an internationally known Indian> astrologer in Mumbai who charges Rs.5000 -10000 per > consultation with a waiting list of 15 days at any> given time. I also know an engineer from Pune who went> to US in the year 1968 to do MS in Engineering and> after doing that he did his Ph D in Engineering and> got a pretty good job with a fat salary. But soon he> lost his interest the job and took to the study of> astrology- a subject with which he had a nodding> aquaintance. With his brilliant intellect, he soon> mastered the subject,got practioner's licence and went> on to become the President of American Federation> ofAstrologers ( AFA), Corporate Astrology Consultant> for large MNCs, Personal consultancy ( $ 500 per> sitting), Lecture Tours throughout US ( you pay to> attend these lectures ) wrote half a dozen books and> is happily settled in US as a very busy professional> for the last 40 years !!.> In short, a professional will get only what he> deserves or is destined to get and therefore should> not grumble or envy other professionals.> Hope, you donot mistake my intentions in this post.> God Bless You and Good Luck,> VBD> > --- sunil nair astro_tellerkerala wrote:> > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna> > > > dear deepak ji> > > > > > > > No u shud not base nadi horoscope ( means what ever> > they r giving ) for> > birth rectifications .Unless the astrologer is wel> > versed in nadi amsa s> > which is not a part of nadi leaf reading and its> > purely based on certian> > laid out principles and its explained in deva> > keralam ( chandra kala> > nadi ) .but now the technic very much hidden .> > > > Now coming to nadi horoscope and traditional> > horoscope .> > > > > > > > each is based on diffrnt calculations .I blv> > tiruganitha is drigganitha> > propounded by sri parameswaran nampoothiri and it> > also lost its accuracy> > over yrs of time .But absence of correct principles> > and ignorence some> > ppl r still using it .Now even in kerala where first> > it was originatd is> > not using for 100s of yrs .> > > > > > > > The traditional astrology also can giv good> > predictions if the> > astrologer is good .> > > > U can see nadi ppl r giving certain age for> > frutification of results and> > its based on trsnits only .Unless u found ur correct> > leaf u need not> > blv their predictions .But why it also fail is the> > ppl with same> > planetary disposition are in 10000s and so again due> > to some exceptions> > it will not work out .Think sani in a rasi for 2.5> > yrs and jup is in a> > rasi for almost 1 yr ,so any body born in those one> > yr s time will hav> > major planets in same signs and its progressions> > need not work the way> > they say .and now population explosion ,u know the> > number is keep on> > increasing and do u think every one will hav same> > destiny ??> > > > I can say this much only .But one thing the> > traditional vedic astrology> > is well equiped to giv u any answers and only> > problem is lack of> > classicaly traditionaly trained astrologers .Yhe> > reasons r many ,one is> > our english education system which totaly disregrd> > our sanskrit mode of> > learning and then other problem is lack of respect> > and remunarations> > .Now a days may be very few astroloers may be very> > well paid where as> > any other profssions are much much lucrativ .> > > > An electrician may be earning more than a normal> > village astrologer for> > amnt of time they spend .> > > > so u can understand the diffrnce .> > > > as regrds to vedic astrology and nadi astrology ( if> > its not purely leaf> > reading ) both hav very well laid out sastra back> > ground and some one> > needs to spend decades on studying it ,so only> > persons who realy> > sacrificed their life ( who will do it ??these days> > unless he born like> > that and no other oblications or pressures )> > > > for example u can see non of the 500 princly states> > in pre independent> > india was employd Nadi astrologers ( rather readers> > ) for their palace> > Any where is history .> > > > > > > > So the message is very clear ,> > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair> > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah> > > > > > , deepak tuteja> > deepakpt@> > wrote:> > >> > > After I got my Nadi reading done in 2004, I> > noticed that there was> > quite a bit of difference between my Nadi horoscope> > and my traditional> > horoscope cast by an astrologer. To date, only one> > out of the five> > predictions made by the Nadi reader has come true. I> > must also add that> > none of the predictions based on my traditional> > horoscope made by> > several astrologers over the past 10 years has come> > true for me. Hence> > my questions below:> > >> > > A. I want to ask the astrologers on this mailing> > list, should one get> > one's traditional horoscope rectified based on the> > Nadi horoscope?> > >> > > B. Has anyone got this done and how accurate were> > the predictions made> > by the rectified horoscope?> > >> > > Deepak> > > > > > > > > > > > Share files, take polls, and make new friends - all under one roof. Go to http://in.promos./groups/>