need help to find a reputed nadi center in Hyderabad

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I consulted 4 readers ( khairatabad, amberpet,

nallakunta & kukatpally ) I got the impression that

they extract the date of birth (and if possible ur

Rasi) and does the predicitions with the Transits of

major planets like saturn , jupitor.

 

Using a digital voice recorder I secretely recorded

2 of the question/answer sessions and found that they

got all the names etc from me only by various

permutations & combinations.

 

Thats my experience.

 

Thanks

Nag

 

 

 

--- Rajendra <rajendra_rajendra wrote:

 

> Hi all,

>

> I'm new member of naadi group.

>

> I would appreciate if some one help with address of

> a reputed naadi centre in Hyderabad. I've consulted

> some naadi guys in Hyderabad 3 years ago,

> unfortunately they are not genuine guys.

>

> Thanks in advance for the help.

>

> Regards,

> Rajendra.

>

>

> Get the freedom to save as many mails as you

> wish. To know how, go to

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I share the same opinion of Nag . . . The naadi readers are well trained to

exract key

informations and they have a very sharp memory which looks like the skill they

develop

thru vigorous training . . .

 

They keep asking you question like first letter, last letter, middle and then

they even

suggest you with few names and ask for to say yes or no . . . similarly your

month and

date and year of birth and then siblings . . . you are accountant Y/N . . .

engineer Y/N . . .

doctor Y/N. . . . if you have observed they dont repeat the questions of same

topic again

and again . . . if they ask you a question about your name if it is wrong they

skip and the

next question they ask you may be something else . . . they keep on shifting

gear by

shuffling questions so that you dont get any idea at all on what he is upto. . .

 

They byheart each and everything thing you say (this is where the memory and

training

helps them) and then they make a nice convincing outline of your personality and

by

making a regular jadhagam of yours (out of info what you have told them) and

they feed

you with information from that. It would be more convicing to you because you

might have

heard what he says from other astrologers too and few other problems you may be

facing

day to day. . . thats the game and the name of the game is " Naadi " . . .

 

Rgds,

 

 

 

, chiru chiru <chiru71 wrote:

>

> I consulted 4 readers ( khairatabad, amberpet,

> nallakunta & kukatpally ) I got the impression that

> they extract the date of birth (and if possible ur

> Rasi) and does the predicitions with the Transits of

> major planets like saturn , jupitor.

>

> Using a digital voice recorder I secretely recorded

> 2 of the question/answer sessions and found that they

> got all the names etc from me only by various

> permutations & combinations.

>

> Thats my experience.

>

> Thanks

> Nag

>

>

>

> --- Rajendra <rajendra_rajendra wrote:

>

> > Hi all,

> >

> > I'm new member of naadi group.

> >

> > I would appreciate if some one help with address of

> > a reputed naadi centre in Hyderabad. I've consulted

> > some naadi guys in Hyderabad 3 years ago,

> > unfortunately they are not genuine guys.

> >

> > Thanks in advance for the help.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Rajendra.

> >

> >

> > Get the freedom to save as many mails as you

> > wish. To know how, go to

> http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yeah!!!

 

I too faced same situation with one Naadi reader I've been to. I would be greatful if some can let me know if they know about any gunine naadi reader in or near to hyderabad.

 

I thought of going to V.Koil, but not sure if i can get to gunine guys at least there.

 

 

s4snooker <s4snooker Sent: Monday, 12 November, 2007 10:33:04 PM Re: need help to find a reputed nadi center in Hyderabad

 

I share the same opinion of Nag . . . The naadi readers are well trained to exract key informations and they have a very sharp memory which looks like the skill they develop thru vigorous training . . . They keep asking you question like first letter, last letter, middle and then they even suggest you with few names and ask for to say yes or no . . . similarly your month and date and year of birth and then siblings . . . you are accountant Y/N . . . engineer Y/N . . . doctor Y/N. . . . if you have observed they dont repeat the questions of same topic again and again . . . if they ask you a question about your name if it is wrong they skip and the next question they ask you may be something else . . . they keep on shifting gear by shuffling questions so that you dont get any idea at all on what he is upto. . .They byheart each and everything thing you say (this is where the memory and training helps

them) and then they make a nice convincing outline of your personality and by making a regular jadhagam of yours (out of info what you have told them) and they feed you with information from that. It would be more convicing to you because you might have heard what he says from other astrologers too and few other problems you may be facing day to day. . . thats the game and the name of the game is "Naadi" . . . Rgds,, chiru chiru <chiru71 > wrote:>> I consulted 4 readers ( khairatabad, amberpet,> nallakunta & kukatpally ) I got the impression that> they extract the date of birth (and if possible ur> Rasi) and does the predicitions with the Transits of> major planets like saturn , jupitor. >

> Using a digital voice recorder I secretely recorded> 2 of the question/answer sessions and found that they> got all the names etc from me only by various> permutations & combinations.> > Thats my experience.> > Thanks> Nag> > > > --- Rajendra <rajendra_rajendra@ ...> wrote:> > > Hi all,> > > > I'm new member of naadi group. > > > > I would appreciate if some one help with address of> > a reputed naadi centre in Hyderabad. I've consulted> > some naadi guys in Hyderabad 3 years ago,> > unfortunately they are not genuine guys.> > > > Thanks in advance for the help.> > > > Regards,> > Rajendra.> > > > > > Get the freedom to save as many mails as you> > wish. To know how, go

to> http://help. / l/in// mail/mail/ tools/tools- 08.html> > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __> > > http://mail. >

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Friends, From the mails we get the impression that the information is extracted from the seekers and told them back with due skill and dexterity of the Naadi Reading pretensions. This is a very routine and off repeated allegation always made by many who refuse to go deep or just try to malign the Nadi Maharishis. How can these allegations be removed? I asked one of the centres. They said we do not know how to tackle this issue. Because we do not indulge in this type of jugglery.

Some may be doing, of that we do not know. He said but this problem should not arise at all, if we allow the scanning of the Naadi leaves to be given to the seekers so that they can get the confirmation from the experts or from any other Naadi reader from the other centre. 'How about starting from now on with your centre ?', I asked. He readily agreed to the request. The leaf of one who was getting the prediction was collected by me and got it scanned. Then I requested that Could he give the writing on the separate Notebook the first line of the leaf where the the names age etc was presumed to have been mentioned. He promptly gave that on a small paper. Not only that he also helped by giving the

cryptic letters and normal Tamil letters to support his interpretation. So any one who tried to decode the names can get the help, if needed. I got it on CD went to other centre. Requested to read the matter which I got by then on a printed form. They said difficult to read . How did you get this ? It is against our tradition. We are not to disclose the matter on the leaf to other than the person proper. When told the gravity of the situation of the validity of your reading and continuance of your profession is at stake. The consumer courts Rationalist pressure groups, non believers, in some states by law enactments this business of yours is going to come under scrutiny. Please awake before it ids too late. In fact before some one asks for the evidence why cant you of your own produce it by getting scrutinised by the experts in the field? What it turned out to be? Continued... Wing Commander Shashikant Oak. Pune, India.

[Guest guest]

Hai,

Iam new to this group,i need genuine naadi centre details in

hyderabad.

iam very happy if anyone can give address details.

 

Regards,

vamsi

 

 

, chiru chiru <chiru71

wrote:

>

> I consulted 4 readers ( khairatabad, amberpet,

> nallakunta & kukatpally ) I got the impression that

> they extract the date of birth (and if possible ur

> Rasi) and does the predicitions with the Transits of

> major planets like saturn , jupitor.

>

> Using a digital voice recorder I secretely recorded

> 2 of the question/answer sessions and found that they

> got all the names etc from me only by various

> permutations & combinations.

>

> Thats my experience.

>

> Thanks

> Nag

>

>

>

> --- Rajendra <rajendra_rajendra wrote:

>

> > Hi all,

> >

> > I'm new member of naadi group.

> >

> > I would appreciate if some one help with address of

> > a reputed naadi centre in Hyderabad. I've consulted

> > some naadi guys in Hyderabad 3 years ago,

> > unfortunately they are not genuine guys.

> >

> > Thanks in advance for the help.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Rajendra.

> >

> >

> > Get the freedom to save as many mails as you

> > wish. To know how, go to

> http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Shashikant ji,

 

I'm happy that a post started by me got to your attention, I've been researching about naadi from couple of months (on Internet of course). I read quite a bit about you, the book you wrote and the initiative you took.

I think you mistook me, I'm neither making any allegation nor do I belong to one of those rationalist groups who doesn't even know what it means to be rational... My sincere attempt was to share my experience and also try get hold of genuine naadi reader near to place which is Hyderabad.

 

But as long as we have people who try to make quick money in the name of Naadi reading we will see this kind of posts.

 

My sincere request to all the naadi enthusiast and believers on the group is that lets compile a list of guanine naadi people spread across the country with contact details. So that people who new can consult the nearest one from the list compiled by our group, there are no chances of anybody getting cheated. This way we can help people who are new to naadi and also will be able to reduce the number of complains to some extent.

 

Regards,

Rajendra.

 

SHASHIKANT OAK <shashikantoak ; sambandan; santoshoak; Prof.S.N.Arseculeratne <chubby; Shukar Naadi <enquiries; harish kumar <harish_kumar551; K. Loganathan <ulagankmy; Nilesh S Trivedi <nptsmpl; puru; Puneet Walia <pdswalia; Sandeep Prasad <sandeeprasad; shashi_oak; shashi oak <shashi_oak; shashioakSent: Wednesday, 14 November, 2007 11:47:47 AMRe: Re: need help to find a reputed nadi center in Hyderabad

 

Dear Friends, From the mails we get the impression that the information is extracted from the seekers and told them back with due skill and dexterity of the Naadi Reading pretensions. This is a very routine and off repeated allegation always made by many who refuse to go deep or just try to malign the Nadi Maharishis. How can these allegations be removed? I asked one of the centres. They said we do not know how to tackle this issue. Because we do not indulge in this type of jugglery. Some may be doing, of that we do not know. He said but this problem should not arise at all, if we allow the scanning of the Naadi leaves to be given to the seekers so that they can get the confirmation from the experts or from any other Naadi reader from the other centre. 'How about starting from now on with your centre ?', I asked. He readily agreed to the request. The leaf of one who was getting the prediction was

collected by me and got it scanned. Then I requested that Could he give the writing on the separate Notebook the first line of the leaf where the the names age etc was presumed to have been mentioned. He promptly gave that on a small paper. Not only that he also helped by giving the cryptic letters and normal Tamil letters to support his interpretation. So any one who tried to decode the names can get the help, if needed. I got it on CD went to other centre. Requested to read the matter which I got by then on a printed form. They said difficult to read . How did you get this ? It is against our tradition. We are not to disclose the matter on the leaf to other than the person proper. When told the gravity of the situation of the validity of your reading and continuance of your profession is at stake. The consumer courts Rationalist pressure groups, non believers, in some states by law enactments this business of yours is going to come under scrutiny.

Please awake before it ids too late. In fact before some one asks for the evidence why cant you of your own produce it by getting scrutinised by the experts in the field? What it turned out to be? Continued... Wing Commander Shashikant Oak. Pune, India.

 

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Dear All,

 

Just a though, but isn’t it the case that

if it is your destiny to have a leaf written for you and have it read, it will

happen anyway?

 

J Eduard

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Rajendra

15 November 2007 11:07

To:

; sambandan; santoshoak;

Prof.S.N.Arseculeratne; Shukar Naadi; harish kumar; K. Loganathan; Nilesh S

Trivedi; puru; Puneet Walia; Sandeep Prasad;

shashi_oak; shashi oak; shashioak

Re: Re:

need help to find a reputed nadi center in Hyderabad

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Shashikant ji,

 

 

 

 

 

I'm happy that a post started by me got to

your attention, I've been researching about naadi from couple of

months (on Internet of course). I read quite a bit about you,

the book you wrote and the initiative you took.

 

 

 

 

I think you mistook me, I'm neither making any

allegation nor do I belong to one of those rationalist groups who doesn't

even know what it means to be rational...

 

My sincere attempt was to share my experience and also try get hold of genuine

naadi reader near to place which is Hyderabad.

 

 

 

 

 

But as long as we have people who try to make quick money

in the name of Naadi reading we will see this kind of posts.

 

 

 

 

 

My sincere request to all the naadi enthusiast and

believers on the group is that lets compile a list of guanine naadi people

spread across the country with contact details. So that people who new

can consult the nearest one from the list compiled by our group, there are no

chances of anybody getting cheated. This way we can help people who are

new to naadi and also will be able to reduce the number of complains to some

extent.

 

 

 

 

 

Regards,

 

 

Rajendra.

 

 

 

 

 

----- Original Message

----

SHASHIKANT OAK <shashikantoak (AT) (DOT) co.in>

; sambandan (AT) aol (DOT) com;

santoshoak (AT) hotmail (DOT) com; Prof.S.N.Arseculeratne <chubby (AT) sltnet (DOT) lk>;

Shukar Naadi <enquiries (AT) naadijothidam (DOT) com>; harish kumar

<harish_kumar551 >; K. Loganathan <ulagankmy >;

Nilesh S Trivedi <nptsmpl >; puru (AT) astrowise (DOT) com;

Puneet Walia <pdswalia (AT) dsa (DOT) co.in>; Sandeep Prasad <sandeeprasad (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>;

shashi_oak (AT) hotmail (DOT) com; shashi oak <shashi_oak (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com>;

shashioak

Wednesday, 14 November, 2007 11:47:47 AM

Re: Re: need help to find a reputed nadi center in

Hyderabad

 

Dear

Friends, From the mails we get the impression that the information

is extracted from the seekers and told them back with due skill and dexterity

of the Naadi Reading pretensions. This is a very routine and off repeated

allegation always made by many who refuse to go deep or just try to malign

the Nadi Maharishis. How can these allegations be removed? I asked one of

the centres. They said we do not know how to tackle this issue.

Because we do not indulge in this type of jugglery. Some may be doing, of that

we do not know. He said but this problem should not arise at all,

if we allow the scanning of the Naadi leaves to be given to the seekers so that

they can get the confirmation from the experts or from any other Naadi reader

from the other centre. 'How about starting from now on with your centre ?', I

asked. He readily agreed to the request. The leaf of one who was getting the

prediction was collected by me and got it scanned. Then I requested that Could

he give the writing on the separate Notebook the first line of the leaf where

the the names age etc was presumed to have been mentioned. He promptly gave

that on a small paper. Not only that he also helped by giving the cryptic

letters and normal Tamil letters to support his interpretation. So any one who

tried to decode the names can get the help, if needed. I got it on CD went to

other centre. Requested to read the matter which I got by then on a printed

form. They said difficult to read . How did you get this ? It is against our

tradition. We are not to disclose the matter on the leaf to other than the

person proper. When told the gravity of the situation of the validity of your

reading and continuance of your profession is at stake. The consumer courts

Rationalist pressure groups, non believers, in some states by law enactments

this business of yours is going to come under scrutiny. Please awake before it

ids too late. In fact before some one asks for the evidence why cant you of

your own produce it by getting scrutinised by the experts in the field? What it

turned out to be? Continued...

 

Wing

Commander Shashikant Oak. Pune, India.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Eduard,

 

I agree you that if I'm desntined to have my leaf read, it will anyway happen.

 

Irrespective of whether I'm destined to have leaf or not, I think I can make an attempt to spread awareness about fake readers which is the major cause for all the allegations and mistrust towards naadi.

Eduard Hempel <eduard ; sambandan; santoshoak; Prof.S.N.Arseculeratne <chubby; Shukar Naadi <enquiries; harish kumar <harish_kumar551; K. Loganathan <ulagankmy; Nilesh S Trivedi <nptsmpl; puru; Puneet Walia <pdswalia; Sandeep Prasad <sandeeprasad; shashi_oak; shashi oak <shashi_oak; shashioakSent: Thursday, 15 November, 2007 3:47:23 PMRE: Re: need help to find a reputed nadi center in Hyderabad

 

 

 

Dear All,

 

Just a though, but isn’t it the case that if it is your destiny to have a leaf written for you and have it read, it will happen anyway?

 

J Eduard

 

 

 

 

 

[naadiastrol ogy ] On Behalf Of Rajendra15 November 2007 11:07; sambandan (AT) aol (DOT) com; santoshoak (AT) hotmail (DOT) com; Prof.S.N.Arseculera tne; Shukar Naadi; harish kumar; K. Loganathan; Nilesh S Trivedi; puru (AT) astrowise (DOT) com; Puneet Walia; Sandeep Prasad; shashi_oak (AT) hotmail (DOT) com; shashi oak; shashioak (AT) gmail (DOT) comRe: Re: need help to find a reputed nadi center in Hyderabad

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Shashikant ji,

 

 

 

I'm happy that a post started by me got to your attention, I've been researching about naadi from couple of months (on Internet of course). I read quite a bit about you, the book you wrote and the initiative you took.

 

 

I think you mistook me, I'm neither making any allegation nor do I belong to one of those rationalist groups who doesn't even know what it means to be rational... My sincere attempt was to share my experience and also try get hold of genuine naadi reader near to place which is Hyderabad.

 

 

 

But as long as we have people who try to make quick money in the name of Naadi reading we will see this kind of posts.

 

 

 

My sincere request to all the naadi enthusiast and believers on the group is that lets compile a list of guanine naadi people spread across the country with contact details. So that people who new can consult the nearest one from the list compiled by our group, there are no chances of anybody getting cheated. This way we can help people who are new to naadi and also will be able to reduce the number of complains to some extent.

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Rajendra.

 

 

 

SHASHIKANT OAK <shashikantoak@ .co. in>; sambandan (AT) aol (DOT) com; santoshoak (AT) hotmail (DOT) com; Prof.S.N.Arseculera tne <chubby (AT) sltnet (DOT) lk>; Shukar Naadi <enquiries@naadijoth idam.com>; harish kumar <harish_kumar551@ >; K. Loganathan <ulagankmy >; Nilesh S Trivedi <nptsmpl (AT) gmail (DOT) com>; puru (AT) astrowise (DOT) com; Puneet Walia <pdswalia (AT) dsa (DOT) co.in>; Sandeep Prasad <sandeeprasad@ hotmail.com>; shashi_oak (AT) hotmail (DOT) com; shashi oak <shashi_oak@rediffma il.com>; shashioak (AT) gmail (DOT) comWednesday, 14 November, 2007 11:47:47 AMRe: Re: need help to find a reputed nadi center in Hyderabad

 

Dear Friends, From the mails we get the impression that the information is extracted from the seekers and told them back with due skill and dexterity of the Naadi Reading pretensions. This is a very routine and off repeated allegation always made by many who refuse to go deep or just try to malign the Nadi Maharishis. How can these allegations be removed? I asked one of the centres. They said we do not know how to tackle this issue. Because we do not indulge in this type of jugglery. Some may be doing, of that we do not know. He said but this problem should not arise at all, if we allow the scanning of the Naadi leaves to be given to the seekers so that they can get the confirmation from the experts or from any other Naadi reader from the other centre. 'How about starting from now on with your centre ?', I asked. He readily agreed to the

request. The leaf of one who was getting the prediction was collected by me and got it scanned. Then I requested that Could he give the writing on the separate Notebook the first line of the leaf where the the names age etc was presumed to have been mentioned. He promptly gave that on a small paper. Not only that he also helped by giving the cryptic letters and normal Tamil letters to support his interpretation. So any one who tried to decode the names can get the help, if needed. I got it on CD went to other centre. Requested to read the matter which I got by then on a printed form. They said difficult to read . How did you get this ? It is against our tradition. We are not to disclose the matter on the leaf to other than the person proper. When told the gravity of the situation of the validity of your reading and continuance of your profession is at stake. The consumer courts Rationalist pressure groups, non believers, in some states by law enactments

this business of yours is going to come under scrutiny. Please awake before it ids too late. In fact before some one asks for the evidence why cant you of your own produce it by getting scrutinised by the experts in the field? What it turned out to be? Continued... Wing Commander Shashikant Oak. Pune, India.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Shashikantji,

 

I agree with Rajendra that we should compile a list of geninune naadi

readers .. one of the prime reason people go the nadi readers are

that they are frustarted with life or facing major problems .. i also

was frustarted and gone to a Naadi reader in mumbai and the person

took full advantge of my problems and i must have spent atleast rs.

80,000 .. i do not know how people can be so low level .. since you

have been studying Naadi for so long i request you to atleast name a

few naadi astlogers who you have visited and found to be genuine

whichever part of India it is what ever prediction i got from the

Naadi astrloger is something which i could have got from any Vedic

Astrloger of course he had added all the details i had told him ...

 

regards

Paresh

 

 

, Rajendra

<rajendra_rajendra wrote:

>

> Eduard,

>

> I agree you that if I'm desntined to have my leaf read, it will

anyway happen.

>

> Irrespective of whether I'm destined to have leaf or not, I think I

can make an attempt to spread awareness about fake readers which is

the major cause for all the allegations and mistrust towards naadi.

>

>

>

> Eduard Hempel <eduard

> ; sambandan; santoshoak;

Prof.S.N.Arseculeratne <chubby; Shukar Naadi <enquiries;

harish kumar <harish_kumar551; K. Loganathan <ulagankmy;

Nilesh S Trivedi <nptsmpl; puru; Puneet Walia

<pdswalia; Sandeep Prasad <sandeeprasad; shashi_oak;

shashi oak <shashi_oak; shashioak

> Thursday, 15 November, 2007 3:47:23 PM

> RE: Re: need help to find a reputed nadi

center in Hyderabad

>

> Dear All,

>

> Just a though, but isn’t it the case that if it is your destiny

to have a leaf written for you and have it read, it will happen

anyway?

>

> J Eduard

>

>

>

>

> [naadiastrol

ogy ] On Behalf Of Rajendra

> 15 November 2007 11:07

> ; sambandan (AT) aol (DOT) com;

santoshoak (AT) hotmail (DOT) com; Prof.S.N.Arseculera tne; Shukar Naadi;

harish kumar; K. Loganathan; Nilesh S Trivedi; puru (AT) astrowise (DOT) com;

Puneet Walia; Sandeep Prasad; shashi_oak (AT) hotmail (DOT) com; shashi oak;

shashioak (AT) gmail (DOT) com

> Re: Re: need help to find a reputed nadi

center in Hyderabad

>

> Dear Shashikant ji,

>

> I'm happy that a post started by me got to your attention, I've

been researching about naadi from couple of months (on Internet of

course). I read quite a bit about you, the book you wrote and the

initiative you took.

>

> I think you mistook me, I'm neither making any allegation nor do I

belong to one of those rationalist groups who doesn't even know what

it means to be rational...

>

> My sincere attempt was to share my experience and also try get hold

of genuine naadi reader near to place which is Hyderabad.

>

> But as long as we have people who try to make quick money in the

name of Naadi reading we will see this kind of posts.

>

> My sincere request to all the naadi enthusiast and believers on the

group is that lets compile a list of guanine naadi people spread

across the country with contact details. So that people who new can

consult the nearest one from the list compiled by our group, there

are no chances of anybody getting cheated. This way we can help

people who are new to naadi and also will be able to reduce the

number of complains to some extent.

>

> Regards,

> Rajendra.

>

>

> SHASHIKANT OAK <shashikantoak@ .co. in>

> ; sambandan (AT) aol (DOT) com;

santoshoak (AT) hotmail (DOT) com; Prof.S.N.Arseculera tne <chubby (AT) sltnet (DOT) lk>;

Shukar Naadi <enquiries@naadijoth idam.com>; harish kumar

<harish_kumar551@ >; K. Loganathan <ulagankmy >;

Nilesh S Trivedi <nptsmpl (AT) gmail (DOT) com>; puru (AT) astrowise (DOT) com; Puneet

Walia <pdswalia (AT) dsa (DOT) co.in>; Sandeep Prasad <sandeeprasad@

hotmail.com>; shashi_oak (AT) hotmail (DOT) com; shashi oak

<shashi_oak@rediffma il.com>; shashioak (AT) gmail (DOT) com

> Wednesday, 14 November, 2007 11:47:47 AM

> Re: Re: need help to find a reputed nadi

center in Hyderabad

> Dear Friends, From the mails we get the impression that the

information is extracted from the seekers and told them back with due

skill and dexterity of the Naadi Reading pretensions. This is a very

routine and off repeated allegation always made by many who refuse to

go deep or just try to malign the Nadi Maharishis. How can these

allegations be removed? I asked one of the centres. They said we do

not know how to tackle this issue. Because we do not indulge in this

type of jugglery. Some may be doing, of that we do not know. He

said but this problem should not arise at all, if we allow the

scanning of the Naadi leaves to be given to the seekers so that they

can get the confirmation from the experts or from any other Naadi

reader from the other centre. 'How about starting from now on with

your centre ?', I asked. He readily agreed to the request. The leaf

of one who was getting the prediction was collected by me and got it

scanned. Then I

> requested that Could he give the writing on the separate Notebook

the first line of the leaf where the the names age etc was presumed

to have been mentioned. He promptly gave that on a small paper. Not

only that he also helped by giving the cryptic letters and normal

Tamil letters to support his interpretation. So any one who tried to

decode the names can get the help, if needed. I got it on CD went to

other centre. Requested to read the matter which I got by then on a

printed form. They said difficult to read . How did you get this ? It

is against our tradition. We are not to disclose the matter on the

leaf to other than the person proper. When told the gravity of the

situation of the validity of your reading and continuance of your

profession is at stake. The consumer courts Rationalist pressure

groups, non believers, in some states by law enactments this business

of yours is going to come under scrutiny. Please awake before it ids

too late. In fact

> before some one asks for the evidence why cant you of your own

produce it by getting scrutinised by the experts in the field? What

it turned out to be? Continued...

>

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Dear Rajendra

I suggest you go once to Agasthya Nadi Jyosya Nilayam

in Khairatabad,Hyderabad phone:040-23304548.I feel it

is better than other nadi centres in hyd.

--- Rajendra <rajendra_rajendra wrote:

 

> Eduard,

>

> I agree you that if I'm desntined to have my leaf

> read, it will anyway happen.

>

> Irrespective of whether I'm destined to have leaf or

> not, I think I can make an attempt to spread

> awareness about fake readers which is the major

> cause for all the allegations and mistrust towards

> naadi.

>

>

>

> Eduard Hempel <eduard

> ;

> sambandan; santoshoak;

> Prof.S.N.Arseculeratne <chubby; Shukar

> Naadi <enquiries; harish kumar

> <harish_kumar551; K. Loganathan

> <ulagankmy; Nilesh S Trivedi

> <nptsmpl; puru; Puneet

> Walia <pdswalia; Sandeep Prasad

> <sandeeprasad; shashi_oak;

> shashi oak <shashi_oak;

> shashioak

> Thursday, 15 November, 2007 3:47:23 PM

> RE: Re: need help to find

> a reputed nadi center in Hyderabad

>

> Dear All,

>

> Just a though, but isn’t it the case that if it is

> your destiny to have a leaf written for you and have

> it read, it will happen anyway?

>

> J Eduard

>

>

>

>

>

> [naadiastrol ogy ] On Behalf

> Of Rajendra

> 15 November 2007 11:07

> ; sambandan (AT) aol (DOT)

> com; santoshoak (AT) hotmail (DOT) com; Prof.S.N.Arseculera

> tne; Shukar Naadi; harish kumar; K. Loganathan;

> Nilesh S Trivedi; puru (AT) astrowise (DOT) com; Puneet Walia;

> Sandeep Prasad; shashi_oak (AT) hotmail (DOT) com; shashi oak;

> shashioak (AT) gmail (DOT) com

> Re: Re: need help to find

> a reputed nadi center in Hyderabad

>

> Dear Shashikant ji,

>

> I'm happy that a post started by me got to your

> attention, I've been researching about naadi from

> couple of months (on Internet of course). I read

> quite a bit about you, the book you wrote and the

> initiative you took.

>

> I think you mistook me, I'm neither making any

> allegation nor do I belong to one of those

> rationalist groups who doesn't even know what it

> means to be rational...

>

> My sincere attempt was to share my experience and

> also try get hold of genuine naadi reader near to

> place which is Hyderabad.

>

> But as long as we have people who try to make quick

> money in the name of Naadi reading we will see this

> kind of posts.

>

> My sincere request to all the naadi enthusiast and

> believers on the group is that lets compile a list

> of guanine naadi people spread across the country

> with contact details. So that people who new can

> consult the nearest one from the list compiled by

> our group, there are no chances of anybody getting

> cheated. This way we can help people who are new to

> naadi and also will be able to reduce the number of

> complains to some extent.

>

> Regards,

> Rajendra.

>

>

> SHASHIKANT OAK <shashikantoak@ .co. in>

> ; sambandan (AT) aol (DOT)

> com; santoshoak (AT) hotmail (DOT) com; Prof.S.N.Arseculera

> tne <chubby (AT) sltnet (DOT) lk>; Shukar Naadi

> <enquiries@naadijoth idam.com>; harish kumar

> <harish_kumar551@ >; K. Loganathan

> <ulagankmy >; Nilesh S Trivedi

> <nptsmpl (AT) gmail (DOT) com>; puru (AT) astrowise (DOT) com; Puneet

> Walia <pdswalia (AT) dsa (DOT) co.in>; Sandeep Prasad

> <sandeeprasad@ hotmail.com>; shashi_oak (AT) hotmail (DOT)

> com; shashi oak <shashi_oak@rediffma il.com>;

> shashioak (AT) gmail (DOT) com

> Wednesday, 14 November, 2007 11:47:47 AM

> Re: Re: need help to find

> a reputed nadi center in Hyderabad

> Dear Friends, From the mails we get the

> impression that the information is extracted from

> the seekers and told them back with due skill and

> dexterity of the Naadi Reading pretensions. This is

> a very routine and off repeated allegation always

> made by many who refuse to go deep or just try to

> malign the Nadi Maharishis. How can these

> allegations be removed? I asked one of the centres.

> They said we do not know how to tackle this issue.

> Because we do not indulge in this type of jugglery.

> Some may be doing, of that we do not know. He

> said but this problem should not arise at all, if we

> allow the scanning of the Naadi leaves to be given

> to the seekers so that they can get the confirmation

> from the experts or from any other Naadi reader from

> the other centre. 'How about starting from now on

> with your centre ?', I asked. He readily agreed to

> the request. The leaf of one who was getting the

> prediction was collected by me and got it scanned.

> Then I

> requested that Could he give the writing on the

> separate Notebook the first line of the leaf where

> the the names age etc was presumed to have been

> mentioned. He promptly gave that on a small paper.

> Not only that he also helped by giving the cryptic

> letters and normal Tamil letters to support his

> interpretation. So any one who tried to decode the

> names can get the help, if needed. I got it on CD

> went to other centre. Requested to read the matter

> which I got by then on a printed form. They said

> difficult to read . How did you get this ? It is

> against our tradition. We are not to disclose the

> matter on the leaf to other than the person proper.

> When told the gravity of the situation of the

> validity of your reading and continuance of your

> profession is at stake. The consumer courts

> Rationalist pressure groups, non believers, in some

> states by law enactments this business of yours is

> going to come under scrutiny. Please awake before it

> ids too late. In fact

> before some one asks for the evidence why cant you

> of your own produce it by getting scrutinised by the

> experts in the field? What it turned out to be?

> Continued...

>

> Wing Commander Shashikant Oak. Pune, India.

>

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My experience ragrding the details given by these

Nadi readers ( i consulted 4 nadi readers in

Hyderabad) matches your observation.

 

They will give you:

 

All the details you have already revealed + Details

which any vedic Astrologer can give you if you provide

the correct horoscope.

 

(There could be some deviations in horoscopic reading

since some of them use Vakya panchanga and some

planetary poisitions might move to next/prior rasi).

 

 

If any one want to experiment, i would suggest you

first consult any good astrologer (not nadi) and get

the next few Vimsottari dasas analysed. Then you

compile those into 2-3 years periods and make notes

like from 30-33 this might happen and 34-35 this might

happen etc. Also mark the periods of Sade Sati too in

your notes.

 

Now take a voice recorder and secretely record all

the question answer sessions. Cooperate with the

reader. Let him give the preditions of First chapter

only. Thank him and pay him.

 

 

Come back and check the horoscope prepared by Nadi

with the one you have already prepared. Ensure that

most of the planets match. Few may move to other Rasis

exaple Mars.

 

Then compare the Predictions of Nadi and the notes

which you have compiled previously with the help of

traditional astrology. Also use the Q & A recorded

secretely for the names etc and match. Then draw

conclusions.

 

I am not trying to defame / disrespect Nadi

Astrology. I am only trying to explain what i have to

done and what made me to conclude that the readers i

have visited are not accurate.

 

It is sheer waste to go for 13 & 14 unless you

establish that the reader is genuine and is really

using Nadi Astrology.

 

Thanks

Nag

 

 

 

 

--- mumbaixyz <pbg_28 wrote:

 

> Dear Shashikantji,

>

> I agree with Rajendra that we should compile a list

> of geninune naadi

> readers .. one of the prime reason people go the

> nadi readers are

> that they are frustarted with life or facing major

> problems .. i also

> was frustarted and gone to a Naadi reader in mumbai

> and the person

> took full advantge of my problems and i must have

> spent atleast rs.

> 80,000 .. i do not know how people can be so low

> level .. since you

> have been studying Naadi for so long i request you

> to atleast name a

> few naadi astlogers who you have visited and found

> to be genuine

> whichever part of India it is what ever prediction i

> got from the

> Naadi astrloger is something which i could have got

> from any Vedic

> Astrloger of course he had added all the details i

> had told him ...

>

> regards

> Paresh

>

>

> , Rajendra

> <rajendra_rajendra wrote:

> >

> > Eduard,

> >

> > I agree you that if I'm desntined to have my leaf

> read, it will

> anyway happen.

> >

> > Irrespective of whether I'm destined to have leaf

> or not, I think I

> can make an attempt to spread awareness about fake

> readers which is

> the major cause for all the allegations and mistrust

> towards naadi.

> >

> >

> >

> > Eduard Hempel <eduard

> > ; sambandan;

> santoshoak;

> Prof.S.N.Arseculeratne <chubby; Shukar Naadi

> <enquiries;

> harish kumar <harish_kumar551; K. Loganathan

> <ulagankmy;

> Nilesh S Trivedi <nptsmpl; puru; Puneet

> Walia

> <pdswalia; Sandeep Prasad <sandeeprasad;

> shashi_oak;

> shashi oak <shashi_oak; shashioak

> > Thursday, 15 November, 2007 3:47:23 PM

> > RE: Re: need help to

> find a reputed nadi

> center in Hyderabad

> >

> > Dear All,

> >

> > Just a though, but isn’t it the case that if it

> is your destiny

> to have a leaf written for you and have it read, it

> will happen

> anyway?

> >

> > J Eduard

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> [naadiastrol

> ogy ] On Behalf Of Rajendra

> > 15 November 2007 11:07

> > ;

> sambandan (AT) aol (DOT) com;

> santoshoak (AT) hotmail (DOT) com; Prof.S.N.Arseculera tne;

> Shukar Naadi;

> harish kumar; K. Loganathan; Nilesh S Trivedi;

> puru (AT) astrowise (DOT) com;

> Puneet Walia; Sandeep Prasad; shashi_oak (AT) hotmail (DOT)

> com; shashi oak;

> shashioak (AT) gmail (DOT) com

> > Re: Re: need help to

> find a reputed nadi

> center in Hyderabad

> >

> > Dear Shashikant ji,

> >

> > I'm happy that a post started by me got to your

> attention, I've

> been researching about naadi from couple of months

> (on Internet of

> course). I read quite a bit about you, the book you

> wrote and the

> initiative you took.

> >

> > I think you mistook me, I'm neither making any

> allegation nor do I

> belong to one of those rationalist groups who

> doesn't even know what

> it means to be rational...

> >

> > My sincere attempt was to share my experience and

> also try get hold

> of genuine naadi reader near to place which is

> Hyderabad.

> >

> > But as long as we have people who try to make

> quick money in the

> name of Naadi reading we will see this kind of

> posts.

> >

> > My sincere request to all the naadi enthusiast and

> believers on the

> group is that lets compile a list of guanine naadi

> people spread

> across the country with contact details. So that

> people who new can

> consult the nearest one from the list compiled by

> our group, there

> are no chances of anybody getting cheated. This way

> we can help

> people who are new to naadi and also will be able to

> reduce the

> number of complains to some extent.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Rajendra.

> >

> >

> > SHASHIKANT OAK <shashikantoak@ .co. in>

> > ;

> sambandan (AT) aol (DOT) com;

> santoshoak (AT) hotmail (DOT) com; Prof.S.N.Arseculera tne

> <chubby (AT) sltnet (DOT) lk>;

> Shukar Naadi <enquiries@naadijoth idam.com>; harish

> kumar

> <harish_kumar551@ >; K. Loganathan

> <ulagankmy >;

> Nilesh S Trivedi <nptsmpl (AT) gmail (DOT) com>;

> puru (AT) astrowise (DOT) com; Puneet

> Walia <pdswalia (AT) dsa (DOT) co.in>; Sandeep Prasad

> <sandeeprasad@

> hotmail.com>; shashi_oak (AT) hotmail (DOT) com; shashi oak

> <shashi_oak@rediffma il.com>; shashioak (AT) gmail (DOT) com

> > Wednesday, 14 November, 2007 11:47:47 AM

> > Re: Re: need help to

> find a reputed nadi

> center in Hyderabad

> > Dear Friends, From the mails we get the

> impression that the

> information is extracted from the seekers and told

> them back with due

> skill and dexterity of the Naadi Reading

> pretensions. This is a very

> routine and off repeated allegation always made by

> many who refuse to

> go deep or just try to malign the Nadi Maharishis.

> How can these

> allegations be removed? I asked one of the centres.

> They said we do

> not know how to tackle this issue. Because we do not

> indulge in this

> type of jugglery. Some may be doing, of that we do

> not know. He

> said but this problem should not arise at all, if we

> allow the

> scanning of the Naadi leaves to be given to the

> seekers so that they

> can get the confirmation from the experts or from

> any other Naadi

> reader from the other centre. 'How about starting

> from now on with

> your centre ?', I asked. He readily agreed to the

> request. The leaf

> of one who was getting the prediction was collected

> by me and got it

> scanned. Then I

> > requested that Could he give the writing on the

> separate Notebook

> the first line of the leaf where the the names age

> etc was presumed

> to have been mentioned. He promptly gave that on a

> small paper. Not

> only that he also helped by giving the cryptic

> letters and normal

> Tamil letters to support his interpretation. So any

> one who tried to

> decode the names can get the help, if needed. I got

> it on CD went to

> other centre. Requested to read the matter which I

> got by then on a

> printed form. They said difficult to read . How did

> you

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Dear Dr. S. Sambandan and Dr. S.N.Arsekuleratne, Sir, 1.I have not understood your two points. You may like to elaborate them. 2. Apart from that - As I understand, you in paper on the subject had quoted the remarks of Dr. Ian Stevenson on the Naadi records wherein he had stated that if the proofs of the names of the persons found in the palm leaf then it will have reverberation in the field of modern science, religion and philosophy(?) Later you had sent the proofs of the leaf to him. What was his or other researchers reaction? How do we further take up the issue with the scientific fraternity with out the needed help from the Naadi centre experts to begin with.. Please guide on this issue. Expecting your

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Dear sirs, Thanks for your valued replies. Please read my comments (in Blue) on the a same. Could I have your article on Karma theory? 24 Nov Mr Oak, my replies in italics. Arseculeratne Emeritus Professor S. N. ArseculeratneMBBS (Cey.), Dip. Bact. (Manch.)D. Phil.(Oxf.)Department of MicrobiologyFaculty of MedicineUniversity of PeradeniyaSri Lanka - SHASHIKANT OAK Sambandan ;

Prof.S.N.Arseculeratne ; Monday, November 19, 2007 6:31 AM Re: Re: need help to find a reputed nadi center in Hyderabad Dear Dr. S. Sambandan and Dr. S.N.Arsekuleratne, Sir, 1.I have not understood your two points. You may like to elaborate them. 2. Apart from that - As I understand, you in paper on the subject had quoted the remarks of Dr. Ian Stevenson on the Naadi records wherein he had stated that if the proofs of the names of the persons found in the palm leaf then it will have

reverberation in the field of modern science, religion and philosophy(?) Later you had sent the proofs of the leaf to him. What was his or other researchers reaction? He was a firm believer in free-will and when the authenticity of the ola leaves was confirmed, he was disappointed. Indeed he said that if the test he precribed proved positive he will be disappointed.my comments – At least he was sincere enough to express this free opinion. How do we further take up the issue with the scientific fraternity with out the needed help from the Naadi centre experts to begin with.. You need the help of a nadi centre as we got, to do such tests. If the scientific community looks at the evidence dispassionately, they should be convinced that there is a prima facie case for the validity of the ola leaves. If they do not accept rigid tests, then their scepticism is without value. There are plenty of pseudo-scientists like Narlikar, however technically competent they may be, to whom no amount of proof will remove their prejudiced scepticism. What could we need to get the scientific fraternity who are dispassionate in their approach? Will you be able to list that? May be we can try a fresh! Read Jessica Utts, writing on the evidence for ESP in the Journal of Scientific Exploration. Please guide on this issue. Expecting your reply. Wing Commander Shashikant Oak. Pune, India. Wing Commander Shashikant Oak. Pune, India.

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