Minutes of Naadi Conferene in Pune on 14th Oct 2007.

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Date – 14 Oct 2007. Place – Udyan Prasad Marriage Hall, Khajina Vihir Chowk Pune.411030 Contact - Grahankit

Office व रोहिणी बुक डेपो- 020 – 24455838 & विंग कमांडर (नि) ओक - A – 4/ 404 Ganga Hamlet Society, Viman Nagar, Pune. 411014.. Mob: 098819 01049 (Oak) ई मेल – shashioak, shashikantoak Minutes of Conference and News Report on Successful conduct of honouring of Naadi Maharahies in Naadi Palm Leaf Conference In Pune Introduction A conference on Naadi Palm Leaf Astrology was conducted on 14th Oct 2007 in Pune at Udyan Prasad Karyalaya, from 1300hrs to 1830hrs. The Beginning Wing Commander welcomed the Naadi Centre owners and staff from Pune and many cities of Maharashtra. List of Centres invited is attached as Appendix ‘A’ Shri. Chandrakant Shewale, Chief Organiser of the conference lit the lamps along with Mrs. Alka Oak, Prof Adwayanand Galtage. Chanting of Mantras from Vedas and Upanishads was conducted by Dr. Nityanand Deshmukh and Party. The second edition of book titled “Vidgyan Aani Buddhiwaad”(The Science and Rationalism) was released by the present on the stage. Staff like Naadi readers, translators and Table Managers and helpers except owners of Naadi centres were honoured with a special trophy, a Uparna (Scarf), Flower and Gaurav Patra (. Letter of

Honour). Appointments Desks were provided in other Hall to the Naadi centres to register the names for their Centres with concession of Rs 50 per person.( Normal fees charges were Rs 400 to Rs 600) Many new persons got opportunity to register at many centres in Pune and other cities in one go. However no Naadi Reading was

conducted. Books Fare Stalls from Books shops were doing brisk business to sell thousands of rupees worth books on Naadi predictions by Wing Commander Oak in Marathi, Hindi and English and other authors. List of books for sale is attached as Appendix ‘B’ Auditorium Activity Dr. Dada Wani, Chief Engineer, Of Army Sub Areas Head Qtrs, Southern Command. He covered general features of Naadi reading and out line of Chapters Etc. Due to paucity of time no demonstration of some sample leaves in public was conducted. In previous times some random leaves were read and names and other details were read

out aloud to indicate how the persons from different countries and religions were no exception to Naadi Maharshees. In one such loud reading a leaf was found accidentally. A girl, who happened to be present just out of curiosity, said ‘Yes’ to all that was called out loudly. Later she was summoned to the stage and got her leaf reading in front of many present. Tea and snacks It is observed that the topic of Naadi Experiences generally not disclosed unless some sort of intimacy is developed. Therefore, full one hour was planned to provide tea and snacks while the participants freely exchange their experiences informally. The experiment was successful to a good extent. Unique Experiences The

personalities mentioned in my book having strange and unique instances spoke with authority. Participants were Wing Commander Rakesh Nanda, Pheroze Misty, Rajan Vaidya, and Subhash Havre. Some present were given chance to speak were Kaustubh Butala, Vijay Sabnis, Magician Vijay Kumar. Wing Commander Rakesh Nanda spoke how he used to help people from any part of country when called over on his Mobile Nos. From Air Martial to even Havildars, how he had served with out any personal gains but as a service to the Maharshees. Pheroze narrated how he mistook his Puja in one of Shiva Temple. He had to go again to perform it with same reverence

and faith. How he was rewarded with many opportunities to him and his family members. His pilgrimage to Sadurgiri, 150 kms south of Madurai. Subhash Havre stated how he is still fighting fit after nine (9) heart Attacks and admission in famous Ruby Hospital in Pune. How he learnt the Modi Lipi (cryptic Script in Marathi) and stood first in Pune University. How he was guided to administer siddha medicines as per

predictions from Leaves. He also distributed more than 100 laminated pictures of Agasthya Maharshi. Vijay Sabnis narrated his experiences and of others whom he took to Atri Jeeva Naadi in Chinchwad Centre. Magician enthralled with his trick to produce a note out of nothing but he said his trick is nothing in front of divining of exact details by great Maharshees of ancient past. The session was to cut short to allow Wing Commander Oak to speak about he suggestions he had put forth for implementation by the Naadi Centres. The points were read

out in Marathi. The same with English version were asked to put up in Naadi Centres along with Trophy presented to them at prominent Place. The list of suggestions is attached as Appendix ‘C’. The Burning topic of some participants was – Why predictions go wrong? ‘How come the past of

person comes 100% accurate whereas the future events do not come true as predicted? It was not possible to provide satisfactory answer to each and every one. But the topic has been clearly explained by Prof. Adwayanand Galatge in his Marathi book- (विज्ञान आणि अंधश्रद्धा निर्मुलन) –

‘Science and Blind Faith Eradication’. Wing Commander Oak proved the point that the purpose of Great Maharshees was not only to divine 100% accurate predictions but to a great extent make the karma theory happen smoothly. He gave a live example of late Flying Officer Dhananjay Mote. The explanation in Marathi is attached as Appendix ‘D’. How the divining on palm leaves is extremely impossible explained in

Appendix ‘E’. English version of both will be put up shortly. In the same book he had also give his explanation as to how the seeing of Naadi palm leaf predictions and Performance of Shanti Deeksha - remedial reassures do not contradict each other as stated by Dr. Jayant Narlikar while

giving his opinion on Naadi Prediction without experiencing it. The entire correspondence by Prof. Galatge is available in Marathi and in English in the book ‘Bodh Andhshrddhecha’ Main Function - Honouring of Naadi Shastries and Other Jyotishya Shastries of conventional

methods. High Tea was arranged for the main participants. Soon after that chief Guests took the position on the stage. They were – 1.Dr G. John Samuel, Director Institute of Asian Studies from Chennai, 2.Ms Jaya Lakshmi, Senior Researcher on Tamil palm leaf manuscripts. 3. Ex MLA of Shivsena Shri. Prakash Devle, who had constructed a mirror temple of Shri Shirdi Saibaba. 4. Dr. R.N. Shukla, Ex- scientist of National Chemical laboratory an explorer of aura of palm leaves along with British scientist. 5. Prof. Adwayanand Galatge, author of many books on parapsychology and authority on Theosophy and Modern Sciences. 6. Shri. Hira Bhai Butala, Indira Gandhi Award winner, Gandhiyan and Educationalist. 7. Smt. Pratibha Shahu Modak – Lyricist, astrologer and wife of Cine actor late Shahu Modak who was very famous for his roles as ‘Bhagwan - Shri Krishna’ in many films of fifties and sixties and renowned astrologer of his times.

Dr. Vijay Bhatkar, Padmashree award winner and Computer wizard and Naadi Lover could not attend the function due to his preoccupation with other invitation. The Chief Naadi astrologers were honoured with 1)Trophy Gaurav Chinha as ‘Boat’, 2) Bouquet of flower, 3) Gaurav

Patra - Letter of Honour indicating the service they have rendered and expected to be rendered with honesty and devotion to the god almighty - ‘Param Shiv Tatva’. and concept behind the symbolic boat and Naadi palm leaf predictions, 4) Uparna, 5 ) Photo of Agasthya Maharshi. Some of them who could not make it due various reasons were given the trophy later. On the occasion Dr .G John Samuel spoke his contribution of making of sample Dictionary in which an extended meaning of some 100 Naadi Words were presented in a booklet form. He was surprised to see the tremendous response for the Tamil Manuscripts. He stated that in many libraries including his own institute does not possess an single leaf of Naadi

Palm leaf. Ever though he had some collection of esoteric topics like Black Magic. Given any material of palm leaves by Naadi centres, he said, his expert staff would get exposure to the cryptic script and may be in later times could be able to decipher the words and meaning more easily. Script of his address is attached as Appendix ‘F’ Resolutions passed Before the vote of thanks by Prof. Mrs. Nutan Apte, Four resolutions were passed unanimously. They text of resolutions in Marathi is placed as Appendix ‘G’. English version will be put up shortly. Sum up The greetings from many Naadi lovers came in time. Some were late. The financial support given by willing Naadi lovers was overwhelming. The Naadi Maharshees will provide insight on the next happening of this type of event in future. ________________________________****_______________________ Prepared and Presented by Shashikant List of Centres invited is attached as Appendix ‘A’ दिनांक - 14 ऑक्टोबर 2007. स्थळ – उद्यान प्रसाद सभागृह, खजिना विहिर चौक पुणे संपर्क – ग्रहांकित कार्यालय आणि ए-4/404 गंगा हॅमलेट सोसायटी, विमान नगर, पुणे.14.. टेलीफोन ­– ­ 020 – 32916151 , 4003 7468. Mob: 098819 01049 ई मेल – shashioak, shashikantoak List of Naadi Centres attending the conference. Name Pune Area Addrress Mo/ Tel No persons attending confirmation received Remarks The Invitations Sent on 12 Sep 2007 1. 1. Shiv Shnamugham 21/3 Bella vista Soc Near Ganpati Chwak Viman Nagar14 020 65273410 9823075938 8 Yes R. Eshwaran Laxitara Complex Thergaon, Chinchwad -33 27274742 9322790839 4 Yes 3. A.N. .Muthusamy J/19, Shankar nagari Paud Road Kothrud -29 65002403 9823097002 7 Yes 4 Vadivel Mudaliyar 11A/Vaishnavi,

8th Lane, Dahanukar Colony, Kothrud- 52 25395949 9423088506 4 Yes 5. Murallidharan 18, behind Savant Petrol Pump,Vishrant Wadi Pune -15 27171999 9323247477 3 Yes 6. Bala MP 3rd Floor Hrishikssh Dham, Parihar Chwak Aundh. 07 25897784 9422009334 3 Yes 7. Arvindsamy 1, Vasudha, Janata Sahakari Soc , Near Chandralok Hospital Bibvewadi

37 24215554 Shifted from F-3 Aniket Soc area 3 Yes 8. Sarveshwaran A/13, Akshya Apart Singh Gad Road, Anand Nagar 51 24353018 9890726698 3 Yes 9. Ballaji Dr. Ambedkar Chwak, Aundh 07 9850677414 2 9. T. Bal Muralidharan Kalas, Alandi Road. 15 9226711406 1 Yes Nashik Area 10. Babusamy Chavan Nivas, Dwarka - Nashik 4220 11 09373905534 2 Yes 11. Vijay Kumar Pujari Wada Panchwati. Nashik 422003 94227 59908 1 Yes 12. Kirti Kumar BLD13 Unit -5 Flat -2 Shramik Soc, Opp Manik Ngr Bus stop Gangapur road Nashik 422013 9860596910 2 Yes Kolhapur Area 13. Jayasurya 3, Shri Apart, Skyes Extn Kolhapur 416 001 9960620623 2 Yes Solapur Area 14. Mallika Meera A-11, Avanti Nagar Part II, Near Old Pune Naka, Solapur413 001 9890516010 2 Yes Akola Area 15. Balasamy Chikate Bungow, Opp Tukaram Soc , Gorakshan Road. Akola 0724 – 6555524 Mo-9890851838 2 Yes Panvel Area 16. Karthikeyan Surya Uday Soc, Khanda Colony New Panvel 9443985746 2 Yes Baroda Area 17. Nilesh Bhai & Koushikan 30/BGowardhan Park II, Near Chhani Jakat Naka, Baroda 390002 9825008455

2 Yes Special Guest. Goa Area 18.Marimuthu 7/1, Dhuler, Mapusa 0832-2255905 2 ? Vasai Area 19.Govindjaj Shubhashi, A Wing GF, papti Road Bhabhola. Vasai (W) 9822183293 2 ? Dahanu Area 20. Arul Shivram & Pradip Patel College Road Vadkun Dahanu Road .401602 9422687648 2 Yes Special guest. Jalgaon /Dhule area 21. Kannan & Sunderan 50/2 Ganapati Nagar. Near Manish colony Jalgaon.425001 9890028073 2 Yes Chennai Area 22. Dr. Om Ulagnathan F 28 Vasanth Apart, 100 Feet

Road Arumbakkam Chennai 600109 09444036196 Not confirmed Special Guest. Naadi HQ Vaideesh waran Koil 23. Dr A Siva Sámi 18 Milladi Street V koil 09345717529 Yes Special Guest. Nagpur and Mumbai Area not Included as that area plans to have next conference FILENAME \p List of books for sale is attached as Appendix ‘B’ List of books on Naadi Predictions Name English Hindi Marathi Author Price Meaning of the titles Courier chrges Aprox Publisher Naadi predictions A Mind Boggling Miracle W/C

Oak 95 N/A 50 M/SDiamond Books X-30, Okhala Industrial Area चौंका देनेवाला चमत्कार - नाड़ीग्रंथ भविष्य ---“-- 75 Same as English book 50 Phase II, New Delhi 20 Tel:011-51611861 नाडी ग्रंथ भविष्य नॉस्ट्रॅडेमसपेक्षा अदभूत ---“--- 35 Nadi Predictions More astoni- shing than Nostradamous 40 M/S Nitin Publications Pune 02 020 24483516 बोध अंधश्रद्धेचा- नाडीभविष्याने केला अंनिसचा पराभव ---“---- 150 Naadi Defeats Blind Faith Superstitions Committee 50 Few copies left with Author विज्ञान आणि अंधश्रद्धा निर्मुलन Prof. Adwayanand Galatage 80 Science and Blind Faith Superstitions 40 Contact@ Tel: 08338 - 293399 विज्ञान आणि बुद्धिवाद Prof. Adwayanand Galatage 200 Science and Rationalism 50 विज्ञान आणि चमत्कार Prof. Adwayanand Galatage 400 Science and Miracles 60-80 Naadi Palm Astrology Kim Paisol Denmark $54 Very good book for foreign readers Not

known www.thamarahua.com/php/ihave.php - 33k - The list of suggestions is attached as Appendix ‘C’. Wing Commander Shashikant Oak - A – 4/ 404 Ganga Hamlet Society, Viman Nagar, Pune. 411014. Mob: 098819 01049 (Oak) Suggestions to improve the Standards of Naadi Palm Leaf Astrology Centres. Wing Commander Shashikant Oak, while addressing in the Conference made some suggestions to improve the standards of Naadi reading profession. After some

deliberations with some Chief Naadi Astrologers, they have agreed to implement most of them as far as possible in near future. Let us hope this conference puts them in right frame of mind for the rest of the suggestions. {IT IS REQUESTED THAT ANY ONE WISHES TO IMPROVE THESE SUGGESTIONS FURTHER AND / OR TRANSLATE IN TAMIL OR LOCAL LANGUAGE OF HIS/HER AREA, YOU ARE WELCOME. PLEASE PUT UP ON THE WEBGROUP AND HAND OVER TO THE CENTRES FOR IMPLEMENTATION UNDER INTIMATION TO THE UNDERSIGNED} There are many challenges before present Naadi Centres. The younger generation Naadi readers will have to cope up with the requirements of the present day customers. While respecting the old traditions fully, they will have to give way to present day

conditions and new paths will have to be build up for the betterment of the divine profession of the ancient past. Gone are the days when no one was bothered about proper running of any business. Now Consumer Courts, Rationalist pressure groups, Non-believers and Government regulations are out to watch wrong doings at any time and at any place. Persons without proper ethics and high morale standards are spoiling the reputation of Great Maharshees and their gigantic work of Naadi Palm leaf Astrology. Children of present Chief Naadi readers are not at all keen to learn the cryptic Tamil language. They see pathetic condition of the fellow readers. Disregard to the

rituals they are expected to undertake before stating the days proceedings of Divine reading. Not so good activities in the non-working hours. Some code of conduct will have to be observed by all Naadi astrologers. Few suggestions in this direction are listed bellow for the benefit of all Naadi lovers to observe them minutely while they visit the centres of their areas. The purpose here is not to criticise any person or any Naadi centre in particular but to understand the reality of profession and suggest ways for the betterment of it. 1. Regularity of opening of centres: - Open centres by 8:30 sharp (depending upon climatic conditions and transport facility). The centre should remain open to accommodate the last customer. If needed work in shift basis. 2. Cleanliness: - Chief Astrologer’s Office, Puja room and other business rooms including toilets and kitchens should be

cleaned every day. No cobwebs, black walls due to Aarti and oil lamps. If required get them white washed every few months. 3. Chappals and News Papers Stand:- Provide proper place to keep footwear outside canters. News paper and periodicals be placed in as proper stand. (Naadi lover Shri Babuji Bhagwat of Pune had provided free stands to some centres in Mumbai and Pune) 4. Use of TV: - Avoid seeing Tamil programmes, especially when non-Tamil knowing clients are present in the centre. 5.

Morning prayers and Sadhana: - The chief Naadi astrologers should set up an example by getting ready for Morning Prayer by 07:00 every day. All other readers should perform Japams and Sadhana /Meditation. The clients present should be permitted to participate in the prayers and Prasad conducted before the day’s proceedings. 6. Table attendants:- Should be available at given timings. Avoid taking any thumb print by some other person. Unless the person carrying is blood relation

and alive. 7. Visitor’s Book: - Visitor’s Book should be kept ready with table attendants for the clients to write their experiences of Naadi readings. It will be evidence to see by the others to know what were the experiences of others clients who have seen Naadi leaves previously. The names and Addresses will help centres to locate persons if required on later date. 8. Photographic Albums:- Avoid display of Photo frames of celebrities in open. Please make post card size Photo album of the visitors. Also add the photos while giving charity to needy and poor from the gifts given to the centres like saris to women, ready made shirts or T shirts and pants; Lungi etc, School stationary or text books to the children. Avoid giving cloth pieces it will burden them to spend money on stitching charges. 9. Centre’s Opening Celebrations:- Every

year celebrate some function like Pongal, Diwali, or centre’s opening day. Invite nearby persons, society residents, celebrities and distribute sweets and flowers so that he friendly atmosphere is created. 10. Legal Advice and Police Protection:- Please arrange for advocate in advance. He may be from your clients. Meet in charge of area Police Station. Invite him and his staffs to centre so that the police are aware what type of activities are conducted. Especially for Non-Tamil speaking area centres Police protections is a must. 11. Facilities to Staff Workers:- Following aspects may be kept in mind . Ø Proper food, stay and transport should be provided where staff workers reside in the centre premises. Ø Medical and emergency help is to be given without fail. Family members are contacted fast. Ø The staff should be encouraged to bring family members to reside with nearby areas. This will avoid frequent visits to home towns and loss of working hands and days. Ø The staff should be encouraged to celebrate Pongal, Diwali etc locally. So that the centre remains open without long break. Ø Remittance of money to the family members in home town is to be monitored by the chief Naadi Astrologers regularly. Ø Every staff should be

given Name plate to be displayed on chest for easy recognition. Wearing of Name plates should be made compulsory. It is easy to remember names of the reader by clients that way. Ø Staff should not consume hard drinks and create disturbance to co-workers. Ø The Staff should be honest to their spouses. 12. Learning of languages:- Spoken English classes may be conducted for the staff, so that translation and searching of leaf becomes easy. The staff working in outside Tamilnadu in non-Tamil speaking areas should be encourages to learn the local languages. 13. Employment Opportunities: - More and more centres are opening in all parts of India. At present many sent out by parents as useless are joining the Naadi reading job. It is harming the reputation of Naadi readings. If job guarantee is given, many new faces with talent and intelligence will join the profession. 14. Certificate of grading:- Could be given to the young readers. It will help to know the standard of reader. 15. Naadi Astrologers from Vaideeshwaran Koil should provide some financial support and by way of regular supply of Naadi leaves to encourage centres run properly. They should get daily feedback from the centres about number of clients served, and other activities of the day. 16. The chief Naadi astrologers should

encourage the staff to open new centre. The new centre should not create competition in the same locality of big cities or near by towns. 17. Shashikant {Wing Commander (Retd) Oak} The explanation in Marathi is attached as Appendix ‘D’.. Date – 14 Oct 2007. Place – Udyan Prasad Marriage Hall, Khajina Vihir Chowk Pune.411030 Contact - Grahankit Office & A – 4/ 404 Ganga Hamlet

Society, Viman Nagar, Pune.411014.. टेलीफोन ­– ­ 020 – 32916151 , 4003 7468. Mob: 098819 01049 (Oak) ई मेल – shashioak, shashikantoak नाड़ी ग्रंथ भविष्य पुढील

घटनांच्या संदर्भात बरोबर येतेच असे नाही असे का ? या अधिवेशनात या

बाबत कडाक्याची चर्चा घडावी अशी अपेक्षा असणे स्वाभाविक आहे. कारण अनेकांचा अनुभव ओकांच्या लेखनाशी जुळत नाही असा आहे. मग यावर ओकांचे उत्तर काय? यावर सविस्तर उत्तर देणे कार्यक्रमाच्या वेळापत्रकात बसणे शक्य नव्हते म्हणून या पत्रातून विचार व्यक्त करून सांगण्याचा प्रयत्न करीत आहे. प्रत्येकाचे

समाधान होईल अशी आशा आहे. माझ्या आधीच्या पुस्तकातून प्राचार्य अद्वयानंद गळतगे यांच्या पुस्तकातील महत्वाचा भाग देऊन उत्तर

देण्याचा प्रयत्न केला आहे. तो अनेकांनी वाचला ही असेल. यावेळी फ्लाईंग ऑफिसर धनंजय मोटे या माझ्या जिवलगाचे एक

जळजळीत उदाहरण घेऊन यावर प्रकाश टाकण्याचा प्रयत्न आहे. साल 2002. वायुसेनेत पंजाबमधे पोस्टींगवर असताना माझी ओळख

फ्लाईंग ऑफिसर धनंजय मोटेशी झाली. सांगलीचा उमदा तरूण, रोज पहाटे जप-साई साधना, ऑफिसच्या कामात हाय ग्रेडिंग, इंग्रजी अस्खलित, बॉक्सिंग, गिटार वादन, पेंटिंग-ड्रॉईंग हॉबीज्,

थोडक्यात बेस्ट ऑल राऊंडर.लगेच आमची मैत्री झाली. त्याने नुकतीच विकत घेतलेली इंडिका मोठ्या आनंदाने आईला-बहिणांना आभिमानाने दाखवण्यासाठी लुधियानाहून सांगलीपर्यंत

एकट्याने चालवत आणली. वाटेत पुण्यात त्याचे नाडी भविष्य पहायला तो व मी एकत्र. पट्टी सापडली. उज्वल भविष्य. मोठ्या

हुद्द्यावर बढत्या. मुले-बाळे. भरपूर आयुष्य. लग्न या दोन महिन्यात ठरेल. मात्र विवाह वयाच्या पुढील वर्षात घडेल. सातव्या कांडात वधूचे वर्णन- मॉडर्न नावाची, सिनिक

ब्युटीच्या ठिकाणची, वगरै वगैर.पुढील काही दिवसात ऩाडी कथनाप्रमाणे तंतोतंत वर्णन असलेल्या व्यक्तीशी - पन्हाळ्यातील (सिनिक ब्युटीच्या), जिच्या घराच्या समोर कोरडा तलाव

असलेल्या, मॉडर्न नावाच्या स्थळाशी लग्न ठरले. धनंजय तात्काळ विवाहाला तयार असून देखील तिचा व तिच्या मोठ्या बहिणीचा विवाह एकत्र करता यावा म्हणून विवाहाची जी तारीख

नक्की झाली ती नेमकी धनंजयच्या वयाच्या पुढील वर्षाच्या वाढदिवसानंतर काही दिवसांची. मी सहपरिवार मुद्दाम विवाह सोहळ्याला हजर. पुढे मी रजा संपवून कामाला हजर. त्याचा

हनिमून वगैरेचा प्रोग्राम संपवून तो पत्नीला आणायला व तिच्या आईवडिलांना भेटून पंजाबात ड्युटीवर परतण्यासाठी सांगलीहून कारने निघाला. जयसिंगपूरच्या पुढे रेल्वेच्या

ओव्हर ब्रिजवर ट्रकने जबरदस्त धडक दिल्यामुळे जबर जखमी होऊन खलास झाला.पंधरा दिवसाच्या आत. मी त्याच्या फ्युनरलला वायुसेनेतर्फे हजर! काय ओक? हे असे कसे झाले ? काय म्हणणे आहे आपले ? आपले महर्षी असे कसे चुकले ? अनेकांचे अनेक प्रश्न. काही बोलून. काही न बोलता. नाडी, नाडी उगाच करतात. चांगली आपटी बसली. काहींचा सात्विक राग. कुठले

महर्षी आणि कुठले काय सगळ्या थापा. अनेकांची मते-मतांतरे. काय गफलत असावी. मी विचार करत राहिलो. नाडी वाचकांचा भाषांतरकाराचा काही संबंध नव्हता की त्यांच्यावर ढकलून मोकळे

होता येईल. प्राचार्य अद्वयानंद गळतगे यांची वाक्ये कानात घुमत होती. भविष्य पाहाणाऱ्याच्या दृष्टीने जो भूतकाळ

असतो तो ऋषीमुनींना (जेंव्हा त्यांनी नाडी ग्रंथ लिहिले त्या वेळी) भविष्यकालच होता. पृच्छकाचा तो भूतकाळ त्या ऋषीमुनींनी अगोदरच भविष्य वर्तवल्यामुळेच बरोबर आला. हे तो

नाकारू शकत नाही. तेंव्हा भविष्य चुकते हे म्हणणे बरोबर नाही. नाडी ग्रंथ पाहिल्या तारखेनंतर पृच्छकाचे भविष्य चुकत असेल तर ते का चुकावे याला निश्चित कारण असले पाहिजे.

म्हणजे भविष्य चुकत नाही मुद्दाम चुकवले जाते. नाडीचा उद्देश कर्मविपाक सुलभ रितीने व यथान्याय घडवून आणणे हा आहे. भविष्य बरोबर सांगणे हा नाही. हे प्राचार्य अद्वयानंद गळतगे यांचे म्हणणे खरेच का ते आपण पाहू. आता वाचकांना मी एक विनंती करतो की आपणच नाडी महर्षी व्हा. म्हणजे असे की धनंजयच्या संदर्भातील घटना आपणास माहित

आहेत. त्यावरून आपण जणू धनंजयची पट्टी लिहिणारे महर्षी आहात असे माना. आता आपल्याला लक्षात येईल की जर आपल्याला धनंजयच्या पत्नीला विधवा होण्याचे भाग्य सिद्ध करायचे असेल

तर तिचा विवाह घडवायला हवा. तो धनंजय सारख्या व्यक्तीशी की ज्याचे आयुष्य विवाहानंतर अत्यंत कमी आहे. आता त्याने नाडी भविष्य पाहिले तेंव्हा महर्षींना म्हणजेच आत्ता

तुम्हाला एक तर त्याचे भविष्य न सांगून (पट्टी सापडत नाही हा त्यातील एक उपाय) किंवा पट्टीत असे सणसणीत लिहून की त्याने तातडीने विवाह करायलाच हवा. तोही त्याच मुलीशी. यासाठी

त्याची पट्टी लगेच मिळेल अशी तयार ठेवली जायला हवी. त्यात त्याच्या भावी पत्नीचे हुबेहुब वर्णन आपणास असे केले पाहिजे की त्या मुलीशीच तो विवाह करायला सिद्ध होईल.

आता विवाह धनंजय तेंव्हाच करेल जेंव्हा आपण त्याला त्याचा भावी काळ उज्वल असेल अशी खात्री वाटेल असे लिहाल. आयुष्यात पत्नी, मुले-बाळे असतील. आयुष्याची दोरी बळकट असेल. का

असे लिहाल की बाबा रे तू तर चार दिन का मेहमान. तरीही एका मुलीचे आयुष्य तू तिला विधवा करून बरबाद करणार आहेस. म्हणून तू तिच्याशी तातडीने विवाह कर. सत्य कथनच करीन असे नाडी

भविष्यकार म्हणून जरी आपण लिहिलेत तरी कोणीही सूज्ञ, त्यातून धनंजय सारखा विचारी व्यक्ती ते कधीच मानणार नाही. तो विवाहच करणार नाही. आपण नाडी महर्षी आहात, त्यामुळे आपणास

कर्मविपाकाशी तडजोड करता येणार नाही. मग आता आपणाला धनंजयला दीर्घ आयुष्याचे रंगित स्वप्न दाखवणे भाग आहे. त्याने अन्य कोठल्या मुलीशी

विवाह करून उपयोग नाही. म्हणून त्याला सात नंबरचे कांड तयार करून ठेवले पाहिजे. त्यात अशा तऱ्हेने वर्णन केले पाहिजे की जी मुलगी अजून पाहिली नाही तीच माझी पत्नी आहे अशी

त्याचीच नव्हे तर त्य़ाच्या घरच्यांची देखील खात्री असावी. ‘कार मधून जाताना धनंजयच्या घरचे त्या मुलीला पाहण्याधीच म्हणत होते की दादा हीच

आमची वहिनी’! आपण म्हणजे नाडी महर्षी, धनंजयची पट्टी न लिहून त्याच्या मृत्यूची घटना घडून गेल्यावर, नाडी

भविष्यावर येऊ घातलेला खोटेपणाचा आळ चुकवू शकला असता. मग आपण असे का केले नाहीत? का नाडीभविष्याला बदनाम व्हायला कारणीभूत झालात? कारण आपणाला भविष्य कथन करणे हा एकच उद्देश ठेऊन नाडी पट्ट्या लिहायच्या नाहीत. कर्मविपाक सुलभ व ठरल्याप्रमाणेच घडावा

यासाठी ही आपणास कार्य करायलाच हवे आहे. हे ही लक्षांत असू दे की हे लिखाण आपणास कूट लिपीतून श्र्लोकबद्ध करून, काव्याची सर्व बंधने पाळून, लिहायला हवे आहे. आपणास धनंजयची पट्टी लिहायलाच हवी असण्याचा आणखी एक उद्देश असा की या पट्टी वाचनास ओकांना त्या भविष्य कथनाचे साक्षी करून हे ही

दाखवून द्यायचे आहे की पुढे काही काळानंतर नाडी भविष्याकडे लोक जेंव्हा प्रश्नार्थक नजरेने पाहतील, आमची निंदा करून अवमान करतील तेंव्हा तुला (ओकांना) आमची बाजू मांडता

यायला नको का? कदाचित पूर्वी जसे त्यांच्या पत्नीच्यासाठी आम्ही तीन पट्ट्या लिहून ठेवल्या होत्या. त्यातील शेवटची

पट्टी त्यांना आगामी काळात व्यक्तीचे नाव नाडीपट्टीत कसे कोरून लिहिलेले असते हे दाखवून देण्यासाठी एक पुरावा म्हणून उपयोगाला येईन अशी व्यवस्था केली गेली. त्याच

प्रमाणे यापुढे ओकांच्या लेखनाने सामान्य लोकांचा आमच्याकडे पहायचा दृष्टीकोन त्यामुळे दूषित राहू नये. यासाठी ही धनंजयची पट्टी कामाला यावी. बरेच जण कोणला मुलगा होईल सांगितले व मुलगी झाली तर आमच्यावर रुसतात. खट्टू होतात. असे समजा की मराठीत ‘मुल’ च्यापुढे ‘गा’ आणि ‘गी’ मघे काना-मात्रेचा कितीसा तो फरक? तमिळमधेही तसेच आहे. त्यात हात न उचलता लिहायच्या प्रथेमुळे लेखनिकांकडून होतो असा विपर्यास. मुलामुलींचे विवाह सांगितल्याबर हुकूम घडत नाहीत तेंव्हा त्या व्यक्तींच्या विवाहाला

दीर्घ काळ लागणार असला तरी उदासीनता न यावी असाही उद्देश आम्हाला ठेवावा लागतो. म्हणून पुन्हा पुन्हा शांती दिक्षेची मात्रा द्यावी लागते. तेंव्हा नाडी भविष्य चूक, खोटे

असे सरसकट म्हणणे कितपत योग्य आहे याचा विचार आपण करावा. How the divining on palm leaves is extremely impossible explained in

Appendix ‘E’ नाडी ग्रंथ पट्टी मिळणे ही किती अशक्यप्राय गोष्ट आहे ? सहज कल्पना करा की आपण एका प्रचंड पूर आलेल्या नदीच्या पात्रावरील पुलावर मजा म्हणून उभे आहात. गंमत म्हणून

खिशातून काड्याची पेटी काढून त्यातील एक काडी त्या घोंघावणाऱ्या पाण्याच्या प्रवाहात फेका. नंतर काड्याच्या पेटीतील आणखी एक काडी काढून ती फेका. आता त्या दोन काड्या

प्रवाहात कुठेतरी पडून दिसेनाशा होतील. आता विचार करा की काही सेकंदाच्या फरकाने फेकलेल्या त्या काड्या कधी पुन्हा एकत्र येतील काय ? सामान्य

उत्तर कधीच नाही असे असेल. तथापि, गणितज्ञ या उत्तराशी सहमत होणार नाहीत. कारण ते गणिती आकडे मोड करून अतीशय क्लिष्ट संख्या मांडून अति दुर्मिळ पण अशक्य नाही असे

त्यांचे उत्तर देतील. या पुढे असा विचार करा की त्याच काड्या काही कारणानी, काही काळानी त्याच काड्याच्या पेटीत पुन्हा एकत्र येतील काय? याचे उत्तर असे घडणे अशक्य कोटीतील आहे, असे येईल. का? तर त्या वेळची परिस्थिती

संपूर्ण बदललेली असेल. काड्या मोडून गेल्या असतील. माणूस जागेवर नसेल. नदीत पाणी नसेल. आणखी हजारो कारणे असतील की ज्यामुळे त्या दोन काड्या एकत्र

येणे शक्य होणार नाही. तरीही ‘असे अघटित घडेल’ असे कोणी म्हणाला तर त्याला मूर्खात काढले जाईल. तर्क मान्यता देणार नाही.

वुद्धीने विश्वास ठेवणे अशक्य होईल. ते कसे शक्य आहे? आता असा विचार करा की ती घोंघावणारी नदी म्हणजे

काळाचा एक प्रचंड ओघ आहे. त्याच्या एका टोकावर नाडी भविष्याच्या कर्त्या महर्षींनी ताडपत्रावर कोरून एका व्यक्तीची पट्टी त्या काळाच्या प्रवाहात सोडली. मधे किती काळ

गेला कोणालाच माहीत नाही. पुढे एक व्यक्ती जन्माला आली. जणू काही काड्याच्या पेटीतील दुसरी काडीच. काही विशिष्ट काळ गेल्यावर त्याला आपले भविष्य पाहाण्याची बुद्धी झाली.

तोवर त्याच्यासाठी लिहिलेली पट्टी धक्के खात-खात हजारो पट्ट्याच्या गठ्ठ्यात पडून होती. जणु काही तिला माहितच होते की तिला कुठे व कधी त्या दुसऱ्या काडी समान व्यक्तीला

भेटायचे आहे. वेळ आली की ती व्यक्ती खूप धावाधाव करून भेटणारच. भले तिला त्या पट्टीतील भाषेचा गंधही नसेल. विश्वास ही नसेल त्याचा की त्याच्या करता कोणी फार पूर्वी पासून

एकजण पत्र लिहून गेला आहे. या भावनेने की ती पट्टी त्याने वाचावी व आपले हित कशात आहे हे जाणावे. त्या पट्टया लिहून ठेऊन गेलेल्यांना काही संपत्तीचा किंवा आणखी कशाचा लोभ

म्हणून त्यामनी ते पत्र लेखन केलेले नाही. तर निष्काम भावनेने केलेली ती मानवतेची सेवा आहे. आपण जेंव्हा नाडी केंद्रात जातो व

आपले भविष्य पाहायला बसतो. ती वेळ इतकी अतिदुर्मिळ असते याची जाणीव प्रत्येकाने ठेवावी.त्या महर्षींनी केलेल्या कार्याची जाण ठेवावी. आपल्याला त्यातील समजेल तितका,

रुचेल तितका आनंद घ्यावा. त्यात सांगितलेल्या गोष्टी आनंदाने स्वीकाराव्या. नाही ऐकलेत, बकवास आहे, थोतांड आहे, म्हणालात तर तुमची मर्जी. आता अशांच्या सारख्या

पढतमूर्खांना कोण काय करणार? नाही का? Speech by Dr G John Samuel Dirextor Institute of Asian Studues Chennai.Appendix 'G' Palm-leaf Manuscripts on Nadi Astrology - Dr. John Samuel. It is indeed a matter of pride for me to stand before you in this significant programme

which aims at exploring the possibilities of rendering some concrete services for safeguarding and promoting one of the important components of our heritage namely the Nadi prediction. At the outset, let me tell you frankly that I am a person completely alien to the theme of the present conference. Although I was very much reluctant to take part in this programme initially, my innate interest in the preservation and conservation of Palm-leaf manuscripts coupled with the enormous interest shown on this fascinating theme by my good friend Wing commander. Mr. Shashikanth Oak, and my cursory reading of his most revealing book ‘Nadi Predictions’ compelled me to accept his invitation and assume the role of a passive observer of this programme. One of the major projects of the Institute of Asian Studies in Chennai is to study the structure and content of the Palm-leaf manuscripts of our country which are fast vanishing owing to human negligence, natural calamities and the ravages of time. We are launching many programmes connected with this great documentary heritage of our ancestors both individually and jointly with the participation of many national and international organizations including the UNESCO. Our main concern in these programmes is to protect these wonderful heritage from the cruel hands of the deteriorating agencies and to study the traditional knowledge and wisdom contained in them. From this point of view, we started analyzing the palm-leaf manuscripts which deal with the various ramifications of Indian medicine, Indian literature, grammar, fine-arts, performing arts, veterinary science, arts and architecture, astrology , astronomy and even the art of building ships. During our continuous pursuit of the manuscript heritage of this land, we come across the information about a rich corpus of palm-leaf manuscripts on Nadi astrology mainly in the hands of professionals who read and interpret them and predict the past,

present and future of mankind irrespective of their ethnic, regional, religious, cultural and linguistic diversities. We were very much surprised when many of our visitors from Japan and other countries started enquiring about the Nadi manuscripts which are popularly known to them as ‘Agasthiya leaves’. It was a great surprise for me to find out no such manuscripts in the manuscript libraries although palm-leaves connected with witch-craft, necromancy etc., are available in plenty in our libraries. I made continuous enquiries about the validity of the thematic content of these manuscripts and the predictions given by the Nadi readers basing on this enchanting corpus with our academic circle who are evincing active interest in the palm-leaf traditions of our country. The response was indeed not encouraging-sometimes shocking also and many people expressed their skepticism on these traditions and some have described it as dubious and fake. In the years 1998, and 1999, there were few T.V interviews in which some pertinent questions were raised at me by the interviewers about this tradition along with many other interesting queries associated with the palm-leaf corpus of our motherland. At that time, I was not in a position to provide convincing answers or justifications about this heritage due to paucity of data available with us. We tried to decipher many of the leaves provided by the fans and well-wishers tradition but we were not able to make head or tail out of the major portions of the leaves presented by them. When a team of experts from France, on behalf of the UNESCO visited our Institute for a general survey of the rich tradition of our palm-leaf manuscripts, we visited some of the Nadi Centres in Chennai and Vaitheeswaran Koil with a view to get some data about the background of this great heritage. But, it was a great disappointment to me and the UNESCO team since, unlike the custodians of other palm-leaf manuscripts pertaining to medicine and related areas of our traditional knowledge, the people who are possessing the Nadi leaves are reluctant to show the

manuscripts and even fail to explain systematically the methodology that underlies the rich corpus of this significant heritage. We were given the explanation that the leaves under their custody date back to more than one thousand years and they were collected by their ancestors from the left out palm-leaves of King Sarfoji who was active in collecting the manuscripts which are now preserved in the Saraswathi meal Library, Tanjore. This information was not at all convincing to us since the maximum life of a palm-leaf in the tropical Indian climate is 350 years. Being an organic substance, the palm-leaf is subjected to

deterioration and disintegration within 350 years-perhaps its longevity may be comparatively longer in the cold countries of Europe, America and Asia. In many instances, the text of the palm-leaf may be old and in this context it should have withstood the passage of time due to the untiring efforts of the scribes who copied them down again and again. The other doubt raised by any reasonable person in this regard is whether it is humanly possible to record the past and future of all individuals of the globe in the palm-leaf manuscripts written long ago. It is true that the ancient seers

and sages of this land of spirituality with their insight and vision were able to foresee the future events and to tell the present and the past. But, no adequate efforts have been taken either by Nadi astrologers or lovers of this art to analyse objectively and present the merits of this before the academic world. I do agree that there are stray attempts in this direction by our Wing Commander and others. Apart from this, it is unfortunate that there are no organized attempts in this direction and our Nadi astrologers are content only with the present and not about the future of this great heritage. It is now the time for you to clear patiently the

reasonable doubts raised from various quarters about a rare wisdom of our ancestors entrusted in your hands and to protect it from the onslaught of adverse criticism. You are the custodian of this knowledge or wisdom and it is your duty to demonstrate before the world the authenticity of this rare treasure. You cannot keep it as an esoteric art for a long time in this age of technology and globalization. Anything kept as esoteric or secret will have a natural death in this era of information technology. India is a land of spirituality which radiated its rays of wisdom all over the benighted world and we are the inheritors of the Indian heritage and it is our bounden duty to explain and establish the greatness of this heritage to the world. The Nadi astrologers, apart from interpreting or reading the predictions on the leaves to their customers should join hands to place this rare tradition before the world by explaining the scientific basis that underlie the corpus of the Nadi sastra. The relationship between the world, the macrocosm and human individuals, the microcosm should be explained along with the extraordinary mathematical skill of the great men of this land. You can join together in establishing study centres about this tradition and encourage writing and publishing scholarly articles about this in the magazines, which I am sure will be a good source of dissemination of this

heritage and this will attract more customers all over the world. I appreciate the efforts of our Wing Commander Mr. Shashikanth Oak in this direction and I am sure that his inspiration will help to pool together the lovers of this art and the professionals and to take up initiatives for promoting researches on this heritage. With this great expectation, the Institute of Asian Studies expressed its consent to undertake the compilation of a small dictionary of technical terms associated with Nadi predictions. I hope this conference will provide proper impetus to the custodians of the Nadi palm-leaf manuscripts collection and to enable them to take all efforts to protect this wisdom of our country and to disseminate them to the entire world so that this significant component of the Indian heritage add pride and prestige to our Motherland. May this Conference will be a turning point in the annals of this tradition in pooling together all professionals and patrons of this pan-Indian tradition and to render good services which will enrich our knowledge about our own heritage and to promote solidarity and peace and make this earthly life truly meaningful. Thanking you. **************** They text of resolutions in Marathi is placed as Appendix ‘G’. Date – 14 Oct 2007. Place – Udyan Prasad Marriage Hall, Khajina Vihir Chowk

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आग्रहास्तव रविवार, दि.14 ऑक्टोबर 2007 रोज पुणे येथे एक दिवसीय नाडी ग्रंथ ज्येतिष अधिवेशनात संपन्न झाले. सर्वसामान्य नागरिकांसाठी नाड़ी ग्रंथ भविष्य म्हणजे काय ? ते कसे पाहातात आणि अन्य माहितीच्या संदर्भात त्यात मार्गदर्शन झाले. उद्यान प्रसाद सभागृहात दुपारी एक ते संध्याकाळी साडेसहा पर्यंत चालण्याऱ्या अधिवेशनासाठी भारतातील 15 पेक्षा

जास्त नाडी केंद्र संचालक उपस्थित राहिले होते. त्यात प्रामुख्याने पुण्यातील श्री.शिव षण्मुगम, श्री.ईश्वरन, श्री.बाला, श्री. मुरली धरन, अरविंदसामी, नाशिकचे किर्ती कुमार,

जळगाव व धुळ्याचे अनुक्रमे श्री. कन्नन व सुंदर, सोलापूरहून श्रीमती मल्लिका मीरा इत्यादींचा समावेश होता. नाड़ी ग्रंथ भविष्याच्या संदर्भात केंद्र संचालकांच्या अडचणी

व अन्य विविध विषयावर नाडी तज्ञांनी आपले विचार मांडले. त्यात भावी काळातील नाडी केंद्रांच्या वाटचालीच्या 20 बिंदूंवर यांच्यात एक चर्चा झाली. नाडी प्रेमींना

आणखी चांगली सेवा देण्यासाठी य़थायोग्य कारवाई करू असे सार्वमताने ठरले. त्यांनी नाडी जिज्ञासूंना मार्गदर्शन केले. या अधिवेशनाचे फलित म्हणून खालील ठराव संमत करण्यात येत आहेत. उपस्थितांनी खालील ठराव एकमताने मंजूर करावा.

ही विनंती. ठराव क्रमांक 1 – नाडी महर्षी भविष्यकथनास

सुरवात करण्याआधी परम शिव तत्वाला वंदन करतात. कारण नाडी ग्रंथ कथन हे दैवीशक्तीचा आविष्कार आहे. म्हणून ते नुसतेच पैसे मिळवायचे एक साधन असे न मानता शुचिता व अध्यात्मिक

साधनेची जोड वाचनाला नाडीवाचकांनी द्यावी. त्यामुळे कथनाच्या गुणवत्तेचा स्तर वाढेल. रोज ध्यान-धारणा व जपसाधना करण्याची कटाक्षाने दक्षता घ्यावी. ठराव मांडला - श्री.दादा वाणी अनुमोदन - सौ. बेलसरे ठराव क्रमांक 2 – नाडी ग्रंथ भविष्याच्या आगामी वाटचालीत

सध्याच्या नाडी शास्त्रींनी पुढाकार घेऊन हुशार व होतकरू तरुणांना कसे आकर्षित करता येईल. त्यांनी इंग्रजी भाषेचे व्यवस्थित शिक्षण घेऊन सध्याच्या भाषेमुळे घडणाऱ्या

त्रुटींवर मात करावी. सध्याच्या वाचकांनी स्पोकन इंग्रजीचे क्लास लावून आपले भाषाज्ञान वाढवावे. शिवाय नाडी ग्रंथावर आधारित शब्दकोश बनवण्यास सहकार्य करावे. ठराव मांडला - श्री.हिराभाई बुटाला. अनुमोदन - श्री.

उदयराज साने ठराव क्रमांक – 3- नाडीग्रंथांवर विविध माध्यमातून विपरीत आघात होतात. त्यावर एकत्रितपणे उपाय करणे जरूरी आहे. त्यामुळे कोठल्याही केंद्राला एकटे पडल्याचे जाणवणार नाही. 20

कलमी मसूद्यात वर्णन केलेल्या उपायांची शक्यतो त्वरित अंमलबजावणी करावी. ठराव मांडला - श्री.सुहीस

डोंगरे अनुमोदन – श्री.विजय जकातदार ठराव क्रमांक – 4 – यासारखी अधिवेशने वेगवगळ्या

शहरात घेण्यास नाडी केंद्र चालकांनी व नाडीप्रेमींनी पुढाकार घ्यावा. त्याची सुरवात मुंबईतून व्हावी. ठराव मांडला - श्री.चंद्रकांत शेवाळे. अनुमोदन – श्री. अशोक

लचके. प्रस्ताव - मांडणी व निवेदन डॉ. आर. एन. शुक्ला. Date – 14 Oct 2007. Place –

Udyan Prasad Marriage Hall, Khajina Vihir Chowk Pune.411030 Contact - Grahankit Office व रोहिणी बुक

डेपो- 020 – 24455838 & विंग कमांडर (नि) ओक - A – 4/ 404 Ganga Hamlet Society, Viman Nagar, Pune. 411014.. Mob: 098819 01049 (Oak) ई मेल – shashioak, shashikantoak Minutes of Conference and News Report on Successful conduct of honouring of Naadi Maharahies in Naadi Palm Leaf Conference In Pune Introduction A conference on Naadi Palm Leaf Astrology was conducted on 14th Oct 2007 in Pune at Udyan Prasad Karyalaya, from 1300hrs to 1830hrs. The Beginning Wing Commander welcomed the Naadi Centre owners and staff from Pune and many cities of Maharashtra. List of Centres invited is attached as Appendix ‘A’ Shri. Chandrakant Shewale, Chief Organiser of the conference lit the

lamps along with Mrs. Alka Oak, Prof Adwayanand Galtage. Chanting of Mantras from Vedas and Upanishads was conducted by Dr. Nityanand Deshmukh and Party. The second edition of book titled “Vidgyan Aani Buddhiwaad”(The Science and Rationalism) was released by the present on the stage. Staff like Naadi readers, translators and Table Managers and helpers except owners of Naadi centres were honoured with a special trophy, a Uparna (Scarf), Flower and Gaurav Patra (. Letter of Honour). Appointments Desks were provided in other Hall to the Naadi centres to register the names for their Centres with concession of Rs 50 per person.( Normal fees charges were Rs 400 to Rs 600) Many new persons got opportunity to register at many centres in Pune and other cities in one go. However no Naadi Reading was conducted. Books Fare Stalls from Books shops were doing brisk business to sell thousands of rupees worth books on Naadi predictions by Wing Commander Oak in Marathi, Hindi and English and other authors. List of books for sale is attached as Appendix ‘B’ Auditorium Activity Dr. Dada Wani, Chief Engineer, Of Army Sub Areas Head Qtrs, Southern Command. He covered general features of Naadi reading and out line of Chapters Etc. Due to paucity of time no demonstration of some sample leaves in public was conducted. In previous times some random leaves were read and names and other details were read out aloud to indicate how the persons from different countries and religions were no exception to Naadi Maharshees. In one such loud reading a leaf was found accidentally. A girl, who happened to be present just out of curiosity, said ‘Yes’ to all that was called out loudly. Later she was summoned to the stage and got her leaf reading in front of

many present. Tea and snacks It is observed that the topic of Naadi Experiences generally not disclosed unless some sort of intimacy is developed. Therefore, full one hour was planned to provide tea and snacks while the participants freely exchange their experiences informally. The experiment was successful to a good

extent. Unique Experiences The personalities mentioned in my book having strange and unique instances spoke with authority. Participants were Wing Commander Rakesh Nanda, Pheroze Misty, Rajan Vaidya, and Subhash Havre. Some present were given chance to speak were Kaustubh Butala, Vijay Sabnis, Magician Vijay Kumar. Wing Commander Rakesh Nanda spoke how he used to help people from any part of country when called over on his Mobile Nos. From Air Martial to even Havildars, how he had served with out any personal gains but as a service to the Maharshees. Pheroze narrated how he mistook his Puja in one of Shiva Temple. He had to go again to perform it with same reverence and faith. How he was rewarded with many opportunities to him and his family members. His pilgrimage to Sadurgiri, 150 kms south of Madurai. Subhash Havre stated how he is still fighting fit after nine (9) heart Attacks and admission in famous Ruby Hospital in Pune. How he learnt the Modi Lipi (cryptic Script in Marathi) and stood first in Pune University. How he was guided to administer siddha medicines as per predictions from Leaves. He also distributed more than 100 laminated pictures of Agasthya Maharshi. Vijay Sabnis narrated his experiences and of others whom he took to Atri Jeeva Naadi in Chinchwad Centre. Magician enthralled with his trick to produce a note out of nothing but he said his trick is nothing in front of divining of exact details by great Maharshees of ancient past. The session was to cut short to allow Wing Commander Oak to speak about he suggestions he had put forth for implementation by the Naadi Centres. The points were read out in Marathi. The same with English version were asked to put up in Naadi Centres along with Trophy presented to them at prominent Place. The list of suggestions is attached as Appendix ‘C’. The Burning topic of some participants was – Why predictions go wrong? ‘How come the past of person comes 100% accurate whereas the future events do not come true as predicted? It was not possible to provide satisfactory answer to each and every one. But the topic has been clearly explained by Prof. Adwayanand Galatge in his Marathi book- (विज्ञान आणि अंधश्रद्धा निर्मुलन) – ‘Science and Blind Faith Eradication’. Wing Commander Oak proved the point that the purpose of Great Maharshees was not only to divine 100% accurate predictions but to a great extent make the karma theory happen smoothly. He gave a live example of late Flying Officer Dhananjay Mote. The explanation in Marathi is attached as Appendix ‘D’. How the divining on palm leaves is extremely impossible explained in Appendix ‘E’. English version of both will be put up shortly. In the same book he had also give his explanation as to how the seeing of Naadi palm leaf predictions and Performance of Shanti Deeksha - remedial reassures do not contradict each other as stated by Dr. Jayant Narlikar while giving his opinion on Naadi Prediction without experiencing it. The entire correspondence by Prof. Galatge is available in Marathi and in English in the book ‘Bodh Andhshrddhecha’ Main Function - Honouring of Naadi Shastries and Other Jyotishya Shastries of conventional methods. High Tea was arranged for the main participants. Soon after that chief Guests took the position on the stage. They were – 1.Dr G. John Samuel, Director Institute of Asian Studies from Chennai, 2.Ms Jaya Lakshmi, Senior Researcher on Tamil palm leaf manuscripts. 3. Ex MLA of

Shivsena Shri. Prakash Devle, who had constructed a mirror temple of Shri Shirdi Saibaba. 4. Dr. R.N. Shukla, Ex- scientist of National Chemical laboratory an explorer of aura of palm leaves along with British scientist. 5. Prof. Adwayanand Galatge, author of many books on parapsychology and authority on Theosophy and Modern Sciences. 6. Shri. Hira Bhai Butala, Indira Gandhi Award winner, Gandhiyan and Educationalist. 7. Smt. Pratibha Shahu Modak – Lyricist, astrologer and wife of Cine actor late Shahu Modak who was very famous for his roles as ‘Bhagwan - Shri Krishna’ in many films of fifties and sixties and renowned astrologer of his times. Dr. Vijay Bhatkar, Padmashree award winner and Computer wizard and Naadi Lover could not attend the function due to his preoccupation with

other invitation. The Chief Naadi astrologers were honoured with 1)Trophy Gaurav Chinha as ‘Boat’, 2) Bouquet of flower, 3) Gaurav Patra - Letter of Honour indicating the service they have rendered and expected to be rendered with honesty and devotion to the god almighty - ‘Param Shiv Tatva’. and concept behind the symbolic boat and Naadi palm leaf predictions, 4) Uparna, 5 ) Photo of Agasthya Maharshi. Some of them who could not make it due various

reasons were given the trophy later. On the occasion Dr .G John Samuel spoke his contribution of making of sample Dictionary in which an extended meaning of some 100 Naadi Words were presented in a booklet form. He was surprised to see the tremendous response for the Tamil Manuscripts. He stated that in many libraries including his own institute does not possess an single leaf of Naadi Palm leaf. Ever though he had some collection of esoteric topics like Black Magic. Given any material of palm leaves by Naadi centres, he

said, his expert staff would get exposure to the cryptic script and may be in later times could be able to decipher the words and meaning more easily. Script of his address is attached as Appendix ‘F’ Resolutions passed Before the vote of

thanks by Prof. Mrs. Nutan Apte, Four resolutions were passed unanimously. They text of resolutions in Marathi is placed as Appendix ‘G’. English version will be put up shortly. Sum up The greetings from many Naadi lovers

came in time. Some were late. The financial support given by willing Naadi lovers was overwhelming. The Naadi Maharshees will provide insight on the next happening of this type of event in future. ________________________________****_______________________ Wing Commander Shashikant Oak. Pune, India.

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Minutes of Conference and News Report on Successful conduct of honouring of Naadi Maharahies in Naadi Palm Leaf Conference In Pune

Introduction

A conference on Naadi Palm Leaf Astrology was conducted on 14th Oct 2007 in Pune at Udyan Prasad Karyalaya, from 1300hrs to 1830hrs. The Beginning

Wing Commander welcomed the Naadi Centre owners and staff from Pune and many cities of Maharashtra. List of Centres invited is attached as Appendix 'A'

Shri. Chandrakant Shewale, Chief Organiser of the conference lit the lamps along with Mrs. Alka Oak, Prof Adwayanand Galtage. Chanting of Mantras from Vedas and Upanishads was conducted by Dr. Nityanand Deshmukh and Party.

The second edition of book titled "Vidgyan Aani Buddhiwaad"(The Science and Rationalism) was released by the present on the stage. Staff like Naadi readers, translators and Table Managers and helpers except owners of Naadi centres were honoured with a special trophy, a Uparna (Scarf), Flower and Gaurav Patra (. Letter of

Honour).

Appointments Desks were provided in other Hall to the Naadi centres to register the names for their Centres with concession of Rs 50 per person.( Normal fees charges were Rs 400 to Rs 600) Many new persons got opportunity to register at many centres in Pune and other cities in one go. However no Naadi Reading was

conducted. Books Fare

Stalls from Books shops were doing brisk business to sell thousands of rupees worth books on Naadi predictions by Wing Commander Oak in Marathi, Hindi and English and other authors.

List of books for sale is attached as Appendix 'B'

Auditorium Activity

Dr. Dada Wani, Chief Engineer, Of Army Sub Areas Head Qtrs, Southern Command. He covered general features of Naadi reading and out line of Chapters Etc. Due to paucity of time no demonstration of some sample leaves in public was conducted. In previous times some random leaves were read and names and other details were read

out aloud to indicate how the persons from different countries and religions were no exception to Naadi Maharshees. In one such loud reading a leaf was found accidentally. A girl, who happened to be present just out of curiosity, said 'Yes' to all that was called out loudly. Later she was summoned to the stage and got her leaf reading in front of many present.

Tea and snacks

It is observed that the topic of Naadi Experiences generally not disclosed unless some sort of intimacy is developed. Therefore, full one hour was planned to provide tea and snacks while the participants freely exchange their experiences informally. The experiment was successful to a good extent.

Unique Experiences

The

personalities mentioned in my book having strange and unique instances spoke with authority. Participants were Wing Commander Rakesh Nanda, Pheroze Misty, Rajan Vaidya, and Subhash Havre. Some present were given chance to speak were Kaustubh Butala, Vijay Sabnis, Magician Vijay Kumar.

Wing Commander Rakesh Nanda spoke how he used to help people from any part of country when called over on his Mobile Nos. From Air Martial to even Havildars, how he had served with out any personal gains but as a service to the Maharshees. Pheroze narrated how he mistook his Puja in one of Shiva Temple. He had to go again to perform it with same reverence

and faith. How he was rewarded with many opportunities to him and his family members. His pilgrimage to Sadurgiri, 150 kms south of Madurai.

Subhash Havre stated how he is still fighting fit after nine (9) heart Attacks and admission in famous Ruby Hospital in Pune. How he learnt the Modi Lipi (cryptic Script in Marathi) and stood first in Pune University. How he was guided to administer siddha medicines as per

predictions from Leaves. He also distributed more than 100 laminated pictures of Agasthya Maharshi. Vijay Sabnis narrated his experiences and of others whom he took to Atri Jeeva Naadi in Chinchwad Centre.

Magician enthralled with his trick to produce a note out of nothing but he said his trick is nothing in front of divining of exact details by great Maharshees of ancient past.

The session was to cut short to allow Wing Commander Oak to speak about he suggestions he had put forth for implementation by the Naadi Centres. The points were read

out in Marathi. The same with English version were asked to put up in Naadi Centres along with Trophy presented to them at prominent Place.

The list of suggestions is attached as Appendix 'C'.

The Burning topic of some participants was – Why predictions go wrong? 'How come the past of

person comes 100% accurate whereas the future events do not come true as predicted?

It was not possible to provide satisfactory answer to each and every one. But the topic has been clearly explained by Prof. Adwayanand Galatge in his Marathi book- (

विजà¥à¤žà¤¾à¤¨ आणि अंधशà¥à¤°à¤¦à¥à¤§à¤¾ निरà¥à¤®à¥à¤²à¤¨) –

'Science and Blind Faith Eradication'.

Wing Commander Oak proved the point that the purpose of Great Maharshees was not only to divine 100% accurate predictions but to a great extent make the karma theory happen smoothly. He gave a live example of late Flying Officer Dhananjay Mote.

The explanation in Marathi is attached as Appendix 'D'. How the divining on palm leaves is extremely impossible explained in

Appendix 'E'. English version of both will be put up shortly.

In the same book he had also give his explanation as to how the seeing of Naadi palm leaf predictions and Performance of Shanti Deeksha - remedial reassures do not contradict each other as stated by Dr. Jayant Narlikar while

giving his opinion on Naadi Prediction without experiencing it. The entire correspondence by Prof. Galatge is available in Marathi and in English in the book 'Bodh Andhshrddhecha'

Main Function - Honouring

of Naadi Shastries and Other Jyotishya Shastries of conventional

methods. High Tea was arranged for the main participants. Soon after that chief Guests took the position on the stage. They were – 1.Dr G. John Samuel, Director Institute of Asian Studies from Chennai,

2.Ms Jaya Lakshmi, Senior Researcher on Tamil palm leaf manuscripts. 3. Ex MLA of Shivsena Shri. Prakash Devle, who had constructed a mirror temple of Shri Shirdi Saibaba. 4. Dr. R.N. Shukla, Ex- scientist of National Chemical laboratory an explorer of aura of palm leaves along with British scientist. 5. Prof. Adwayanand Galatge, author of many books on parapsychology and authority on Theosophy and Modern Sciences. 6. Shri. Hira Bhai Butala, Indira Gandhi Award winner, Gandhiyan and Educationalist.

7. Smt. Pratibha Shahu Modak – Lyricist, astrologer and wife of Cine actor late Shahu Modak who was very famous for his roles as 'Bhagwan - Shri Krishna' in many films of fifties and sixties and renowned astrologer of his times.

Dr. Vijay Bhatkar, Padmashree award winner and Computer wizard and Naadi Lover could not attend the function due to his preoccupation with other invitation.

The Chief Naadi astrologers were honoured with 1)Trophy Gaurav Chinha as 'Boat', 2) Bouquet of flower, 3) Gaurav

Patra - Letter of Honour indicating the service they have rendered and expected to be rendered with honesty and devotion to the god almighty - 'Param Shiv Tatva'. and concept behind the symbolic boat and Naadi palm leaf predictions, 4) Uparna, 5 ) Photo of Agasthya Maharshi. Some of them who could not make it due various reasons were given the trophy later. On the occasion Dr .G John Samuel spoke his contribution of making of sample Dictionary in which an extended meaning of some 100 Naadi Words were presented in a booklet form. He was surprised to see the tremendous response for the Tamil Manuscripts. He stated that in many libraries including his own institute does not possess an single leaf of Naadi

Palm leaf. Ever though he had some collection of esoteric topics like Black Magic. Given any material of palm leaves by Naadi centres, he said, his expert staff would get exposure to the cryptic script and may be in later times could be able to decipher the words and meaning more easily.

Script of his address is attached as Appendix 'F'

Resolutions passed Before the vote of thanks by Prof. Mrs. Nutan Apte, Four resolutions were passed unanimously.

They text of resolutions in Marathi is placed as Appendix 'G'. English version will be put up shortly.

Sum up

The greetings from many Naadi lovers came in time. Some were late. The financial support given by willing Naadi lovers was overwhelming. The Naadi Maharshees will provide insight on the next happening of this type of event in future.

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Prepared and Presented by Shashikant

List of Centres invited is attached as Appendix 'A'

 

 

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List of Naadi Centres attending the conference.

Name Pune Area

Addrress

Mo/ Tel No

persons attending

confirmation received

Remarks The Invitations Sent on 12 Sep 2007

1. 1. Shiv Shnamugham

21/3 Bella vista Soc Near Ganpati Chwak Viman Nagar14

020 65273410 9823075938

8

Yes

R. Eshwaran

Laxitara Complex Thergaon, Chinchwad -33

27274742 9322790839

4

Yes

3. A.N. .Muthusamy

J/19, Shankar nagari Paud Road Kothrud -29

65002403 9823097002

7

Yes

4 Vadivel Mudaliyar

11A/Vaishnavi,

8th Lane, Dahanukar Colony, Kothrud- 52

25395949 9423088506

4

Yes

5. Murallidharan

18, behind Savant Petrol Pump,Vishrant Wadi Pune -15

27171999 9323247477

3

Yes

6. Bala MP

3rd Floor Hrishikssh Dham, Parihar Chwak Aundh. 07

25897784 9422009334

3

Yes

7. Arvindsamy

1, Vasudha, Janata Sahakari Soc , Near Chandralok Hospital Bibvewadi

37

24215554 Shifted from F-3 Aniket Soc area

3

Yes

8. Sarveshwaran

A/13, Akshya Apart Singh Gad Road, Anand Nagar 51

24353018 9890726698

3

Yes

9. Ballaji

Dr. Ambedkar Chwak, Aundh 07

9850677414

2

9. T. Bal Muralidharan

Kalas, Alandi Road. 15

9226711406

1

Yes

Nashik Area

10. Babusamy

Chavan Nivas, Dwarka - Nashik 4220 11

09373905534

2

Yes

11. Vijay Kumar

Pujari Wada Panchwati. Nashik 422003

94227 59908

1

Yes

12. Kirti Kumar

BLD13 Unit -5 Flat -2 Shramik Soc, Opp Manik Ngr Bus stop Gangapur road Nashik 422013

9860596910

2

Yes

Kolhapur Area

13. Jayasurya

3, Shri Apart, Skyes Extn Kolhapur 416 001

9960620623

2

Yes

Solapur Area

14. Mallika Meera

A-11, Avanti Nagar Part II, Near Old Pune Naka, Solapur413 001

9890516010

2

Yes

Akola Area

15. Balasamy

Chikate Bungow, Opp Tukaram Soc , Gorakshan Road. Akola

0724 – 6555524 Mo-9890851838

2

Yes

Panvel Area

16. Karthikeyan

Surya Uday Soc, Khanda Colony New Panvel

9443985746

2

Yes

Baroda Area

17. Nilesh Bhai & Koushikan

30/BGowardhan Park II, Near Chhani Jakat Naka, Baroda 390002

9825008455

 

2

Yes

Special Guest.

Goa Area

18.Marimuthu

7/1, Dhuler, Mapusa

0832-2255905

2

?

Vasai Area

19.Govindjaj

Shubhashi, A Wing GF, papti Road Bhabhola. Vasai (W)

9822183293

2

?

Dahanu Area

20. Arul Shivram & Pradip Patel

College Road Vadkun Dahanu Road .401602

9422687648

2

Yes

Special guest.

Jalgaon /Dhule area

21. Kannan & Sunderan

50/2 Ganapati Nagar. Near Manish colony Jalgaon.425001

9890028073

2

Yes

Chennai Area

22. Dr. Om Ulagnathan

F 28 Vasanth Apart, 100 Feet

Road Arumbakkam Chennai 600109

09444036196

Not confirmed

Special Guest.

Naadi HQ Vaideesh waran Koil

23. Dr A Siva Sámi

18 Milladi Street V koil

09345717529

Yes

Special Guest.

Nagpur and Mumbai Area not Included as that area plans to have next conference

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List of books for sale is attached as Appendix 'B'

 

List of books on Naadi Predictions

Name

English Hindi

Marathi

Author

Price

Meaning of the titles

Courier chrges

Aprox

Publisher

Naadi predictions A Mind Boggling Miracle

W/C

Oak

95

N/A

50

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Okhala Industrial Area

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Prof.Dr.S.N.Arseculeratne fom Colombo and Prof.Dr S .Samanbandan and other Dear friends, Nice to read some of the comments received and placements on the webgroup . 1) I hope you have read the minutes of the conference carefully. Your commments for the suggestions put up in the Appendix 'C' for the Naadi centres to follows meticulously are awaited. 2) That the age of the Naadi palm leaves needs to be established is a requirement to be studied by the expert in the field. One such attempt of Carbon 14 test had been already conducted in

GERMANY- the institute of Ion Radiation Physics Department placed in Nuclear Research Centre Rosesrendorph by Thomas Ritter. Mr. Ritter had written a book in German language titled, "The secret of Indian Palm leaf Libraries." 3) That Naadi divination has been the result of Karna Pishachha as is called in North India or Yakshini Vidhya in South India as true or not needs to be checked with the predictons. Because Karna Pishachhaya method TELLS predictions but Naadi reader READS from the palm leaf, OR ATLEAST PRETENDS TO READ LEAF. Whether predictions are really written on the leaf or not is the real issue. This test was conducted. The photographs were taken of the leaf and enlarged photo was shown to the rationalists and

scientists of international repute. Please read the attachment for the detailed objections and the replies by Shri G. EASHWARAN a representative of Naadi Readers in Pune. The same has been placed on the files of this group. It was told to them to establish that the name in two dots be read to dismiss the tall claims made by the lovers of the Naadi Palm astrologers. Up till now no one came forward to dismiss the claim. Those Tamilians who had tried to read has only confirmed the name written in it.The detailed description is available in the book tiltled -'Naadi Predictions - A Mind Boggling Miracle'. 4) Through this forum I request all those TAMILIANS to come forward for the same and read at least their names in the leaf. If requested in proper and soft manner they generally accept the request. Because of insistence of Naadi Lovers in Pune, some of the

Naadi Centres in Pune these days have started to show the names even to the person who do not know the script. 5) Can any one wishes came forward to help to make Dictionary Of Naadi Words From Tamil to English ? Please read the speech by Dr G John Samuel Director Institute of Asian Studies Chennai. Appendix 'G' to the minutes of the Conference on Naadi Astrology. 6) To read more about the same Please see Appendix 'B'. 7) Expecting some positive (ready to study) responses from the group friends. Wing Commander Shashikant Oak. Pune, India.

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