naadi astrologer faces court, whose fault ?

[Guest guest]

Dear members,

SOme of you may be aware of this, for the benefit of all,

Mr sivasamy a leading naadi astrologer of Vaitheeswaran koil faces a

court case for giving predictions for a dead mans thumb

impression.Attached URLs have the info

 

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1718662.cms

http://www.indianpad.com/story/37114

 

We dont know what went on . thumb impression alone cant get the leaf,

the reader would have asked many questions on the 'dead man', wonder

how the complainant ansered them on behalf of the dead man.

 

Does anyone who reads this message know what went on , and what

happened to the case.

 

Last week I was to VKoil temple and tehre, I casually asked about

this to a couple of shop keepers there and they said the complainant

wantedly drew the naadi reader by giving false information of a dead

man etc.

 

For many people believing on naadi this may be a bit of a shock.

 

If Mr. Gopalakrishanan(the complainant) or Mr Sivasamy or some one

known to them if reading this, please throw some light .

[Guest guest]

Hi sanjeev, that sivasamy is a total fraud. I think gopal might have got so frustrated thats why he went for that. Frauds should be punished.... I think almost most of the nadi ppl are fraud. So I advise ppl not spend money unnecessarily. -Dhanapalsanjeev2475 <sanjeev2475 wrote: Dear members,SOme of you may be aware of this, for the benefit of all,Mr sivasamy a leading naadi astrologer of Vaitheeswaran koil faces a court case for

giving predictions for a dead mans thumb impression.Attached URLs have the infohttp://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1718662.cmshttp://www.indianpad.com/story/37114We dont know what went on . thumb impression alone cant get the leaf, the reader would have asked many questions on the 'dead man', wonder how the complainant ansered them on behalf of the dead man.Does anyone who reads this message know what went on , and what happened to the case.Last week I was to VKoil temple and tehre, I casually asked about this to a couple of shop keepers there and they said the complainant wantedly drew the naadi reader by giving false information of a dead man etc.For many people believing on naadi this may be a bit of a shock.If Mr.

Gopalakrishanan(the complainant) or Mr Sivasamy or some one known to them if reading this, please throw some light .

Don't pick lemons.

See all the new 2007 cars at Autos.

[Guest guest]

Hi DhanapalI aggree with you, I have already done with one, totally fake.

 

But astrology is not a recognized science or profession in many country, how could a bad practioner of

astrology be punished?

 

for example: The astrologer said that someone would not marry, after a while it is prooved that the person married. What punishment should he receive? Jail? pay samething to customer?

 

It is a subtle subject to discuss, so the punishment also should be subtle, isnt?

I think in countries , and about any kind of astrology this question will arise..

I would appreciate any comment.

 

It would be very nice if we have site with personal comments about every astrologer, so we could have a clue before waisting time and money..

Evencio

 

On 02 Apr 2007 08:08:10 -0700, Dhanapal T <tdhanapal_logic wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi sanjeev,

 

that sivasamy is a total fraud. I think gopal might have got so frustrated thats why he went for that. Frauds should be punished.... I think almost most of the nadi ppl are fraud. So I advise ppl not spend money unnecessarily.

 

 

-Dhanapalsanjeev2475 <sanjeev2475 > wrote:

 

 

Dear members,SOme of you may be aware of this, for the benefit of all,Mr sivasamy a leading naadi astrologer of Vaitheeswaran koil faces a court case for giving predictions for a dead mans thumb impression.Attached

URLs have the infohttp://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1718662.cms

http://www.indianpad.com/story/37114We dont know what went on . thumb impression alone cant get the leaf, the reader would have asked many questions on the 'dead man', wonder how the complainant ansered them on behalf of the dead man.Does anyone who reads this message know what went on , and what happened to the case.

Last week I was to VKoil temple and tehre, I casually asked about this to a couple of shop keepers there and they said the complainant wantedly drew the naadi reader by giving false information of a dead

man etc.For many people believing on naadi this may be a bit of a shock.If Mr. Gopalakrishanan(the complainant) or Mr Sivasamy or some one known to them if reading this, please throw some light .

 

 

 

Don't pick lemons.See all the

new 2007 cars at Autos.

[Guest guest]

Sanjeev,

 

I dont know the details of the case. Neither can I vouch one way or

other for Mr. Sivaswamy. But here is a theory:

 

If infact nadi astrologers are using Astral beings to do their

astrology, as they are going through the Akashic Records, they keep

checking with the client if things are true or not.

 

Now assuming that the astrologer started giving information regarding

that thumb impression. In some Nadi's there is information

about " Danger to life " . It is not uncommon in some nadis where it

says " If you survive this danger, you will live a long life " .

 

Infact it is like a if---then---else loop. So this indicates that

there is some amount of free will in some circumstances. It is

possible that the Nadi astrologer may have treated this specific case

as one where the " else " statement was taken.

 

So may be if the original person had survived the " danger of death "

he would have lived a long life.

 

Ofcourse this is pure conjecture...but possible...

 

-Manoj

 

 

, " sanjeev2475 "

<sanjeev2475 wrote:

>

> Dear members,

> SOme of you may be aware of this, for the benefit of all,

> Mr sivasamy a leading naadi astrologer of Vaitheeswaran koil faces

a

> court case for giving predictions for a dead mans thumb

> impression.Attached URLs have the info

>

> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1718662.cms

> http://www.indianpad.com/story/37114

>

> We dont know what went on . thumb impression alone cant get the

leaf,

> the reader would have asked many questions on the 'dead man',

wonder

> how the complainant ansered them on behalf of the dead man.

>

> Does anyone who reads this message know what went on , and what

> happened to the case.

>

> Last week I was to VKoil temple and tehre, I casually asked about

> this to a couple of shop keepers there and they said the

complainant

> wantedly drew the naadi reader by giving false information of a

dead

> man etc.

>

> For many people believing on naadi this may be a bit of a shock.

>

> If Mr. Gopalakrishanan(the complainant) or Mr Sivasamy or some one

> known to them if reading this, please throw some light .

>

[Guest guest]

You sound like a s/w engineer,are you ?

 

I think whats happening nowadays is that if a leaf is not found,many

readers dont tell the client to go away, instead they try to make

predictions somehow based on their astrogy knowledge or through

the 'upasana' or someother way and thus give inaccuarate results,

this is my guess.I have visited many centers with my freinds adn

relatives and in almost all places leaf is found for everyone.This ,

I heard never used to happen in the olden days, when people used to

hop multiple readers to find their leaf.

And, one of my relative, a grandfather in one way for me, has his

leaf with him, he says a naadi reader in mayiladuthurai who read his

prediction accuratly about 60 yrs ago gave it to him. For him all

predictions have been right,except he has outlived his predicted

lifespan by more than 7 years now,( which is not a bad thing)

Nowadays, no one gives away the leaf like that, they will shout at us

if we ask.

 

You said in one of the postings that 'real pious truthful readers '

exist even today, can you name a few., if not on this list( if u

think its improper that is) to my personal mail directly.

 

How do you have so much info on naadi astrology, you sound like a s/w

guy, I am also.

 

 

Reply soon

Bye

, " chandran_manoj "

<chandran_manoj wrote:

>

> Sanjeev,

>

> I dont know the details of the case. Neither can I vouch one way or

> other for Mr. Sivaswamy. But here is a theory:

>

> If infact nadi astrologers are using Astral beings to do their

> astrology, as they are going through the Akashic Records, they keep

> checking with the client if things are true or not.

>

> Now assuming that the astrologer started giving information

regarding

> that thumb impression. In some Nadi's there is information

> about " Danger to life " . It is not uncommon in some nadis where it

> says " If you survive this danger, you will live a long life " .

>

> Infact it is like a if---then---else loop. So this indicates that

> there is some amount of free will in some circumstances. It is

> possible that the Nadi astrologer may have treated this specific

case

> as one where the " else " statement was taken.

>

> So may be if the original person had survived the " danger of death "

> he would have lived a long life.

>

> Ofcourse this is pure conjecture...but possible...

>

> -Manoj

>

>

> , " sanjeev2475 "

> <sanjeev2475@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear members,

> > SOme of you may be aware of this, for the benefit of all,

> > Mr sivasamy a leading naadi astrologer of Vaitheeswaran koil

faces

> a

> > court case for giving predictions for a dead mans thumb

> > impression.Attached URLs have the info

> >

> > http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1718662.cms

> > http://www.indianpad.com/story/37114

> >

> > We dont know what went on . thumb impression alone cant get the

> leaf,

> > the reader would have asked many questions on the 'dead man',

> wonder

> > how the complainant ansered them on behalf of the dead man.

> >

> > Does anyone who reads this message know what went on , and what

> > happened to the case.

> >

> > Last week I was to VKoil temple and tehre, I casually asked about

> > this to a couple of shop keepers there and they said the

> complainant

> > wantedly drew the naadi reader by giving false information of a

> dead

> > man etc.

> >

> > For many people believing on naadi this may be a bit of a shock.

> >

> > If Mr. Gopalakrishanan(the complainant) or Mr Sivasamy or some

one

> > known to them if reading this, please throw some light .

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I am not as software engineer right now but I have done a lot of

software coding earlier...

 

Regarding recommending a Nadi astrologer, I have found the following

astrologer to be very detailed and very accurate and honest.

 

www.kagabujandar.org

 

You can do the reading completely Online if desired (which is how I

did mine). The reading says it as it is. The details and depth is

amazing. Some of the spiritual predictions in the Gnanagandam

reading clearly indicated to me that the information was coming from

a higher spitirual source. The reader seems very pious and good

hearted. I cannot give any more details since it is very personal.

Dont take my word for it, you can try for yourself and see the

results.

 

Thanks.

 

-Manoj

 

, " sanjeev2475 "

<sanjeev2475 wrote:

>

> You sound like a s/w engineer,are you ?

>

> I think whats happening nowadays is that if a leaf is not

found,many

> readers dont tell the client to go away, instead they try to make

> predictions somehow based on their astrogy knowledge or through

> the 'upasana' or someother way and thus give inaccuarate results,

> this is my guess.I have visited many centers with my freinds adn

> relatives and in almost all places leaf is found for

everyone.This ,

> I heard never used to happen in the olden days, when people used

to

> hop multiple readers to find their leaf.

> And, one of my relative, a grandfather in one way for me, has his

> leaf with him, he says a naadi reader in mayiladuthurai who read

his

> prediction accuratly about 60 yrs ago gave it to him. For him all

> predictions have been right,except he has outlived his predicted

> lifespan by more than 7 years now,( which is not a bad thing)

> Nowadays, no one gives away the leaf like that, they will shout at

us

> if we ask.

>

> You said in one of the postings that 'real pious truthful

readers '

> exist even today, can you name a few., if not on this list( if u

> think its improper that is) to my personal mail directly.

>

> How do you have so much info on naadi astrology, you sound like a

s/w

> guy, I am also.

>

>

> Reply soon

> Bye

> , " chandran_manoj "

> <chandran_manoj@> wrote:

> >

> > Sanjeev,

> >

> > I dont know the details of the case. Neither can I vouch one way

or

> > other for Mr. Sivaswamy. But here is a theory:

> >

> > If infact nadi astrologers are using Astral beings to do their

> > astrology, as they are going through the Akashic Records, they

keep

> > checking with the client if things are true or not.

> >

> > Now assuming that the astrologer started giving information

> regarding

> > that thumb impression. In some Nadi's there is information

> > about " Danger to life " . It is not uncommon in some nadis where

it

> > says " If you survive this danger, you will live a long life " .

> >

> > Infact it is like a if---then---else loop. So this indicates

that

> > there is some amount of free will in some circumstances. It is

> > possible that the Nadi astrologer may have treated this specific

> case

> > as one where the " else " statement was taken.

> >

> > So may be if the original person had survived the " danger of

death "

> > he would have lived a long life.

> >

> > Ofcourse this is pure conjecture...but possible...

> >

> > -Manoj

> >

> >

> > , " sanjeev2475 "

> > <sanjeev2475@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear members,

> > > SOme of you may be aware of this, for the benefit of all,

> > > Mr sivasamy a leading naadi astrologer of Vaitheeswaran koil

> faces

> > a

> > > court case for giving predictions for a dead mans thumb

> > > impression.Attached URLs have the info

> > >

> > > http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1718662.cms

> > > http://www.indianpad.com/story/37114

> > >

> > > We dont know what went on . thumb impression alone cant get

the

> > leaf,

> > > the reader would have asked many questions on the 'dead man',

> > wonder

> > > how the complainant ansered them on behalf of the dead man.

> > >

> > > Does anyone who reads this message know what went on , and

what

> > > happened to the case.

> > >

> > > Last week I was to VKoil temple and tehre, I casually asked

about

> > > this to a couple of shop keepers there and they said the

> > complainant

> > > wantedly drew the naadi reader by giving false information of

a

> > dead

> > > man etc.

> > >

> > > For many people believing on naadi this may be a bit of a

shock.

> > >

> > > If Mr. Gopalakrishanan(the complainant) or Mr Sivasamy or some

> one

> > > known to them if reading this, please throw some light .

> > >

> >

>