Nadi experience and some comments and humble advice

[Guest guest]

Dear all,I personally agree to this and I can say this with enough confidence. I have spent a lot of time and effort on it and I have seen many people who have got their Naadi read and I have personally studied them. I can vouch for everything that Mr Manoj has said.All I want to say is please respect this. " With great power, there comes great responsibility " Warm RegardsNavin

On 29 Mar 2007 08:08:13 -0700, chandran_manoj <chandran_manoj wrote:

 

 

 

 

Hello All,

 

Let me make some general comments about Nadi astrology:

 

1.There are two kinds of people who seek Nadi:

 

a) People who have crisis in their lifes.

b) People who are just curious about its metaphysical implications

for the thrill of it.

c) People who dont believe in it and are out to prove that this is a

fraud.

 

If you do not want to read any further and just want a quick take

away from this email, here it is:

 

If you belong to category (a) Nadi might be able to help you(with

some important caveats). (I will explain more below).

 

If you belong to category (b) DONT DO IT !!! You might be asking for

trouble !!!(I will explain below).

 

If you belong to category ©, dont waste your time. Like any other

art form there are genuine ones and fradulent ones. You cannot

generalize this that easily.

 

Now here is my explanation on this phenomenon (from personal

experience and analysis)

 

In my opinion most of the Nadi's are either Jeevanadis (Live nadis)

or mantra Nadis (nadi's invoked by a mantra). I make a distinction

between the two purposefully. I believe that in the Jeevanadis

(Agathiyar, Kagabujandar etc) the READER becomes a medium for these

Rishis and as a result of this the details " APPEAR " on the Nadis.

Genuine Nadi READERS who lead pious lifes give authentic Jeevanadi

readings that are 95% accurate regarding the future. Ofcourse past

is always 100% accurate. (I say 95% for future because extrodinary

spiritual karma can change the nadi readings by the grace of God and

these Rishis. But remember 95% of human beings are ordinary and

hence authentic Nadi readings are most of the time 100% accurate).

 

Unforunately it seems that there are also some Nadi Readers

who " MIMIC " the above styles using some " other " astral beings who

are NOT self Reaslized Rishis. In these cases, the past is accurate

(because the Akashic records can be accessed in the Astral Plane),

the NEAR FUTURE (1-2 years) may be accurate, but distant future is

inaccurate.It is also unfortunately possible that unscrupolous

READERS can fake future tragedies to extract more money.

 

The only way to distinguish between these two types of readings is

by asking around and word of mouth. A true " READER " will have

excellent track record and almost 100% hit rate.

 

However, even if your Nadi reading is accurate, should you get it?

Before you get it consider these points:

 

1. Prarabdha Karma for this birth has to be dealt with. There is no

escape from it. The ONLY FREE WELL YOU HAVE IS HOW YOU REACT TO IT.

 

2. Most life changing events are either extremely POSITIVE or

extremely NEGATIVE. You dont learn much from mundane events in life.

 

3. So, a true Nadi Reading will be FULL OF EXTREMELY POSITIVE

(birth, promotion, lottery winnings, spiritual upliftment etc)

and/or EXTREMELY NEGATIVE (death, loss of job, accidents, poverty,

disease etc) EVENTS. Mundane events will not be noted.

 

4. Nadi reading is given by Rishis for a spiritual purpose. The

READERS are not psychologists, only MEDIUMS. So they have no

authority to " CENSOR " the READINGS. So what you see is what you get.

 

Hence if you REALLY WANT a NADI reading please consider these things:

 

A) You may come to find out when you are going to die.

B) You may come to find out when your spouse, parents and other

relatives are going to die.

c) You may come to find out about impending divorce in your life.

d) You may come to find out a disease in your life(some times life

threatening).

 

It is my humble opinion that any one thinking about getting a Nadi

reading should be Psychologically and Spiritually READY for it. If

you believe that prayer to God and a spiritual life along with doing

the best we can for our family is the purpose of life and take the

READING as a Spiritual Challenge, THEN GO FOR IT!!!

 

IF you dont think you can handle this, please stay away. Please

approach this great Tool (Nadi) with reverence and sincerity. It is

not a toy to be played with. It is NOT FOR ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES !!!

 

But for heavens sake, please do not paint all Nadi Astrologers with

the same brush and call them fakes. That is an insult to great

Rishis and honest READERS.

 

-Manoj

 

PS: I have no vested interest in Nadi Astrology. I dont have any

relatives/friends practising this. This message has been sent with a

sincerity hoping it will help people interested in this topic.

[Guest guest]

dear chandran_manoj

very beatiful and logical analysis

i belong to a) catagory

i am 67 and in bangalore can you guide me

nagendra

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " chandran_manoj "

<chandran_manoj wrote:

>

> Hello All,

>

> Let me make some general comments about Nadi astrology:

>

> 1.There are two kinds of people who seek Nadi:

>

> a) People who have crisis in their lifes.

> b) People who are just curious about its metaphysical implications

> for the thrill of it.

> c) People who dont believe in it and are out to prove that this is a

> fraud.

>

> If you do not want to read any further and just want a quick take

> away from this email, here it is:

>

> If you belong to category (a) Nadi might be able to help you(with

> some important caveats). (I will explain more below).

>

> If you belong to category (b) DONT DO IT !!! You might be asking for

> trouble !!!(I will explain below).

>

> If you belong to category ©, dont waste your time. Like any other

> art form there are genuine ones and fradulent ones. You cannot

> generalize this that easily.

>

> Now here is my explanation on this phenomenon (from personal

> experience and analysis)

>

> In my opinion most of the Nadi's are either Jeevanadis (Live nadis)

> or mantra Nadis (nadi's invoked by a mantra). I make a distinction

> between the two purposefully. I believe that in the Jeevanadis

> (Agathiyar, Kagabujandar etc) the READER becomes a medium for these

> Rishis and as a result of this the details " APPEAR " on the Nadis.

> Genuine Nadi READERS who lead pious lifes give authentic Jeevanadi

> readings that are 95% accurate regarding the future. Ofcourse past

> is always 100% accurate. (I say 95% for future because extrodinary

> spiritual karma can change the nadi readings by the grace of God and

> these Rishis. But remember 95% of human beings are ordinary and

> hence authentic Nadi readings are most of the time 100% accurate).

>

> Unforunately it seems that there are also some Nadi Readers

> who " MIMIC " the above styles using some " other " astral beings who

> are NOT self Reaslized Rishis. In these cases, the past is accurate

> (because the Akashic records can be accessed in the Astral Plane),

> the NEAR FUTURE (1-2 years) may be accurate, but distant future is

> inaccurate.It is also unfortunately possible that unscrupolous

> READERS can fake future tragedies to extract more money.

>

> The only way to distinguish between these two types of readings is

> by asking around and word of mouth. A true " READER " will have

> excellent track record and almost 100% hit rate.

>

> However, even if your Nadi reading is accurate, should you get it?

> Before you get it consider these points:

>

> 1. Prarabdha Karma for this birth has to be dealt with. There is no

> escape from it. The ONLY FREE WELL YOU HAVE IS HOW YOU REACT TO IT.

>

> 2. Most life changing events are either extremely POSITIVE or

> extremely NEGATIVE. You dont learn much from mundane events in life.

>

> 3. So, a true Nadi Reading will be FULL OF EXTREMELY POSITIVE

> (birth, promotion, lottery winnings, spiritual upliftment etc)

> and/or EXTREMELY NEGATIVE (death, loss of job, accidents, poverty,

> disease etc) EVENTS. Mundane events will not be noted.

>

> 4. Nadi reading is given by Rishis for a spiritual purpose. The

> READERS are not psychologists, only MEDIUMS. So they have no

> authority to " CENSOR " the READINGS. So what you see is what you get.

>

> Hence if you REALLY WANT a NADI reading please consider these things:

>

> A) You may come to find out when you are going to die.

> B) You may come to find out when your spouse, parents and other

> relatives are going to die.

> c) You may come to find out about impending divorce in your life.

> d) You may come to find out a disease in your life(some times life

> threatening).

>

> It is my humble opinion that any one thinking about getting a Nadi

> reading should be Psychologically and Spiritually READY for it. If

> you believe that prayer to God and a spiritual life along with doing

> the best we can for our family is the purpose of life and take the

> READING as a Spiritual Challenge, THEN GO FOR IT!!!

>

> IF you dont think you can handle this, please stay away. Please

> approach this great Tool (Nadi) with reverence and sincerity. It is

> not a toy to be played with. It is NOT FOR ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES !!!

>

> But for heavens sake, please do not paint all Nadi Astrologers with

> the same brush and call them fakes. That is an insult to great

> Rishis and honest READERS.

>

> -Manoj

>

> PS: I have no vested interest in Nadi Astrology. I dont have any

> relatives/friends practising this. This message has been sent with a

> sincerity hoping it will help people interested in this topic.

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Mr.Nagendra,

 

If I were you I will consider these two scenarios. Obviously you

have a crisis in your life. If you go to Nadi, there are two

possibilities:

 

1. It might say categorically that the crisis will get worse or

never get solved.

 

2. It might acknowledge your circumstance and state that if you do

the shanthis then the crisis will go away.

 

If (2) is the case, then it is simple. Assuming monetarily and

otherwise you are able to complete the shanthis, then atleast

psychologically you are better off. You can atleast be convinced

that you did whatever you can about the situation.

 

However if (1) is the case, then you have to be able to react to it

positively without being devastated. So it is really a personal call.

 

In my experience I have found the Nadi from the following site to be

accurate and reasonable (not harsh) and the reader from my

experience is pious and kind hearted:

 

www.kagabujandar.org

 

The only down side is that the Costs of Shanthi are high since they

are in dollars. You can call them and ask them if they have

different rates for India.

 

Good luck. God speed.

 

-Manoj

, " nagapitha " <nagapitha

wrote:

>

>

> dear chandran_manoj

> very beatiful and logical analysis

> i belong to a) catagory

> i am 67 and in bangalore can you guide me

> nagendra

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

, " chandran_manoj "

> <chandran_manoj@> wrote:

> >

> > Hello All,

> >

> > Let me make some general comments about Nadi astrology:

> >

> > 1.There are two kinds of people who seek Nadi:

> >

> > a) People who have crisis in their lifes.

> > b) People who are just curious about its metaphysical

implications

> > for the thrill of it.

> > c) People who dont believe in it and are out to prove that this

is a

> > fraud.

> >

> > If you do not want to read any further and just want a quick

take

> > away from this email, here it is:

> >

> > If you belong to category (a) Nadi might be able to help you

(with

> > some important caveats). (I will explain more below).

> >

> > If you belong to category (b) DONT DO IT !!! You might be asking

for

> > trouble !!!(I will explain below).

> >

> > If you belong to category ©, dont waste your time. Like any

other

> > art form there are genuine ones and fradulent ones. You cannot

> > generalize this that easily.

> >

> > Now here is my explanation on this phenomenon (from personal

> > experience and analysis)

> >

> > In my opinion most of the Nadi's are either Jeevanadis (Live

nadis)

> > or mantra Nadis (nadi's invoked by a mantra). I make a

distinction

> > between the two purposefully. I believe that in the Jeevanadis

> > (Agathiyar, Kagabujandar etc) the READER becomes a medium for

these

> > Rishis and as a result of this the details " APPEAR " on the

Nadis.

> > Genuine Nadi READERS who lead pious lifes give authentic

Jeevanadi

> > readings that are 95% accurate regarding the future. Ofcourse

past

> > is always 100% accurate. (I say 95% for future because

extrodinary

> > spiritual karma can change the nadi readings by the grace of God

and

> > these Rishis. But remember 95% of human beings are ordinary and

> > hence authentic Nadi readings are most of the time 100%

accurate).

> >

> > Unforunately it seems that there are also some Nadi Readers

> > who " MIMIC " the above styles using some " other " astral beings

who

> > are NOT self Reaslized Rishis. In these cases, the past is

accurate

> > (because the Akashic records can be accessed in the Astral

Plane),

> > the NEAR FUTURE (1-2 years) may be accurate, but distant future

is

> > inaccurate.It is also unfortunately possible that unscrupolous

> > READERS can fake future tragedies to extract more money.

> >

> > The only way to distinguish between these two types of readings

is

> > by asking around and word of mouth. A true " READER " will have

> > excellent track record and almost 100% hit rate.

> >

> > However, even if your Nadi reading is accurate, should you get

it?

> > Before you get it consider these points:

> >

> > 1. Prarabdha Karma for this birth has to be dealt with. There is

no

> > escape from it. The ONLY FREE WELL YOU HAVE IS HOW YOU REACT TO

IT.

> >

> > 2. Most life changing events are either extremely POSITIVE or

> > extremely NEGATIVE. You dont learn much from mundane events in

life.

> >

> > 3. So, a true Nadi Reading will be FULL OF EXTREMELY POSITIVE

> > (birth, promotion, lottery winnings, spiritual upliftment etc)

> > and/or EXTREMELY NEGATIVE (death, loss of job, accidents,

poverty,

> > disease etc) EVENTS. Mundane events will not be noted.

> >

> > 4. Nadi reading is given by Rishis for a spiritual purpose. The

> > READERS are not psychologists, only MEDIUMS. So they have no

> > authority to " CENSOR " the READINGS. So what you see is what you

get.

> >

> > Hence if you REALLY WANT a NADI reading please consider these

things:

> >

> > A) You may come to find out when you are going to die.

> > B) You may come to find out when your spouse, parents and other

> > relatives are going to die.

> > c) You may come to find out about impending divorce in your life.

> > d) You may come to find out a disease in your life(some times

life

> > threatening).

> >

> > It is my humble opinion that any one thinking about getting a

Nadi

> > reading should be Psychologically and Spiritually READY for it.

If

> > you believe that prayer to God and a spiritual life along with

doing

> > the best we can for our family is the purpose of life and take

the

> > READING as a Spiritual Challenge, THEN GO FOR IT!!!

> >

> > IF you dont think you can handle this, please stay away. Please

> > approach this great Tool (Nadi) with reverence and sincerity. It

is

> > not a toy to be played with. It is NOT FOR ENTERTAINMENT

PURPOSES !!!

> >

> > But for heavens sake, please do not paint all Nadi Astrologers

with

> > the same brush and call them fakes. That is an insult to great

> > Rishis and honest READERS.

> >

> > -Manoj

> >

> > PS: I have no vested interest in Nadi Astrology. I dont have any

> > relatives/friends practising this. This message has been sent

with a

> > sincerity hoping it will help people interested in this topic.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Mr. Manoj

 

Your excellent way to guiding people towards the sacred belief of

Nadi astrology makes me eager to request you to share some of your

experiances about Nadi, I found my leaf after waiting for 7 years

(gurgaon center)and only at a time when i was in crisis. Earlier

though i was not trying to get it for fun but surely with a strong

belief in myself that the big dreams and aspirations i have in life

exist/will happen or it is just day dreaming, from your words i also

understand that you have a great interest and knowledge in astrology.

 

In this group i have read many messages posted by people but have

still not been able to funnel down whether really predications have

come true(again doubting), surely life is a mix of ups and downs but

in my case the readings are so great that i am not able to digest

them, by the grace of god i live a great life today and look at the

future very positively but also selfishely towards making things

happen my way. Nadi has given me the added hope of fulfilling my

dreams but maybe my maturity level of accepting what has been

predicted is far less to your experiance.

 

1) May you please guide and try to express in a way to support and

strenghten my belief.

2) I went to Vkoil for my 10th Gandam and Guruji wrote my gandam

himself(thanks to him), do you suggest that i should also try to get

a reading from a different nadi person i.e. my gandam/notebook from

a different nadi reader.

 

Thank you

 

best regards

 

KRS

 

 

, " chandran_manoj "

<chandran_manoj wrote:

>

> Hello All,

>

> Let me make some general comments about Nadi astrology:

>

> 1.There are two kinds of people who seek Nadi:

>

> a) People who have crisis in their lifes.

> b) People who are just curious about its metaphysical implications

> for the thrill of it.

> c) People who dont believe in it and are out to prove that this is

a

> fraud.

>

> If you do not want to read any further and just want a quick take

> away from this email, here it is:

>

> If you belong to category (a) Nadi might be able to help you(with

> some important caveats). (I will explain more below).

>

> If you belong to category (b) DONT DO IT !!! You might be asking

for

> trouble !!!(I will explain below).

>

> If you belong to category ©, dont waste your time. Like any

other

> art form there are genuine ones and fradulent ones. You cannot

> generalize this that easily.

>

> Now here is my explanation on this phenomenon (from personal

> experience and analysis)

>

> In my opinion most of the Nadi's are either Jeevanadis (Live

nadis)

> or mantra Nadis (nadi's invoked by a mantra). I make a distinction

> between the two purposefully. I believe that in the Jeevanadis

> (Agathiyar, Kagabujandar etc) the READER becomes a medium for

these

> Rishis and as a result of this the details " APPEAR " on the Nadis.

> Genuine Nadi READERS who lead pious lifes give authentic Jeevanadi

> readings that are 95% accurate regarding the future. Ofcourse past

> is always 100% accurate. (I say 95% for future because extrodinary

> spiritual karma can change the nadi readings by the grace of God

and

> these Rishis. But remember 95% of human beings are ordinary and

> hence authentic Nadi readings are most of the time 100% accurate).

>

> Unforunately it seems that there are also some Nadi Readers

> who " MIMIC " the above styles using some " other " astral beings who

> are NOT self Reaslized Rishis. In these cases, the past is

accurate

> (because the Akashic records can be accessed in the Astral Plane),

> the NEAR FUTURE (1-2 years) may be accurate, but distant future is

> inaccurate.It is also unfortunately possible that unscrupolous

> READERS can fake future tragedies to extract more money.

>

> The only way to distinguish between these two types of readings is

> by asking around and word of mouth. A true " READER " will have

> excellent track record and almost 100% hit rate.

>

> However, even if your Nadi reading is accurate, should you get it?

> Before you get it consider these points:

>

> 1. Prarabdha Karma for this birth has to be dealt with. There is

no

> escape from it. The ONLY FREE WELL YOU HAVE IS HOW YOU REACT TO IT.

>

> 2. Most life changing events are either extremely POSITIVE or

> extremely NEGATIVE. You dont learn much from mundane events in

life.

>

> 3. So, a true Nadi Reading will be FULL OF EXTREMELY POSITIVE

> (birth, promotion, lottery winnings, spiritual upliftment etc)

> and/or EXTREMELY NEGATIVE (death, loss of job, accidents, poverty,

> disease etc) EVENTS. Mundane events will not be noted.

>

> 4. Nadi reading is given by Rishis for a spiritual purpose. The

> READERS are not psychologists, only MEDIUMS. So they have no

> authority to " CENSOR " the READINGS. So what you see is what you

get.

>

> Hence if you REALLY WANT a NADI reading please consider these

things:

>

> A) You may come to find out when you are going to die.

> B) You may come to find out when your spouse, parents and other

> relatives are going to die.

> c) You may come to find out about impending divorce in your life.

> d) You may come to find out a disease in your life(some times life

> threatening).

>

> It is my humble opinion that any one thinking about getting a Nadi

> reading should be Psychologically and Spiritually READY for it. If

> you believe that prayer to God and a spiritual life along with

doing

> the best we can for our family is the purpose of life and take the

> READING as a Spiritual Challenge, THEN GO FOR IT!!!

>

> IF you dont think you can handle this, please stay away. Please

> approach this great Tool (Nadi) with reverence and sincerity. It

is

> not a toy to be played with. It is NOT FOR ENTERTAINMENT

PURPOSES !!!

>

> But for heavens sake, please do not paint all Nadi Astrologers

with

> the same brush and call them fakes. That is an insult to great

> Rishis and honest READERS.

>

> -Manoj

>

> PS: I have no vested interest in Nadi Astrology. I dont have any

> relatives/friends practising this. This message has been sent with

a

> sincerity hoping it will help people interested in this topic.

>

[Guest guest]

Hello KRS,

 

Thank you for the kind complements. Your guess is correct. I have

heard, seen and experienced spectacular predictions via Nadi

astrology. I have also heard (but not experienced) spectacular

frauds or misses. However (as before ) I have a theory about that

as well. Nay sayers can hear me out and then put forth their

arguments.

 

First, in a future posting, (when I have more time, I have a

important deadline to meet soon) I will post a spectacular

experience (100% true verified by me) of one of my uncles.

 

For now let me propose my theory why some times (or many times) some

astrologers who " used to be accurate " are deemed to " frauds "

suddenly. Mind you I am NOT accusing Mr.Sivaswamy at all. I believe

in innocent until proven guilty. We should not hang some one before

the trial.

 

Having said that here are my arguments:

 

1. In this sceptical world do you think that people will spend their

hard earned money on Nadi if they had NOT heard about its accuracy

from another source?

 

2. Do you think that some one like Mr.Sivaswamy can become so famous

(with politicians etc) after being a fraud?

 

I doubt it. Once again I am not coming to any body's defence but it

seems unlikely that he was a life time fraud. I think what is more

likely is that there are more " misses " vs " hits " in his camp

nowadays.

 

I still hold on to the fact that these readers are Psychic mediums.

It is a family business in most cases (with some noteable

exceptions). I think that genetically they may be more attuned to be

mediumistic and further they develop this skill since childhood (by

repeating mantras and learning to meditate on astral deities with

Mantra repetition etc). Some how the Nadi leaves enable them to

contact the astral entity and be a Medium.

 

It is my opinion that over commercialization or greed or failure to

follow certain precepts of propitiating the deities results in

inferior results. After all they are at the mercy of these astral

agents....you see it can be a tricky and dangerous game for them.

 

That is why it is important to be pious and not greedy. THERE ARE

STILL GENUINE PIOUS AND NON GREEDY READERS TODAY...AND HENCE THEY

ARE VERY ACCURATE.

 

Coming back to your question, If the Nadi predicted a spectacular

life then it will mostly come true...GREAT JOB...you deserve it ...

you have earned it in your previous lifes.

 

However, pay attention to the Gnanagandam ( the spiritual Gandam).

That is the MOST important Gandam. After all all this existence is

for the spiritual bliss....you see we are all waves waiting to be

the sea...

 

Believe in your great future, help the less fortunate people, try to

maximize this Life opportunity and gain in spirituality.

 

Remember : " Money, wealth, health and power come and

go...Spirituality is the only thig that comes and grows... " .

 

-Manoj

, " jim_sudden "

<karanrajsharma wrote:

>

> Hello Mr. Manoj

>

> Your excellent way to guiding people towards the sacred belief of

> Nadi astrology makes me eager to request you to share some of your

> experiances about Nadi, I found my leaf after waiting for 7 years

> (gurgaon center)and only at a time when i was in crisis. Earlier

> though i was not trying to get it for fun but surely with a strong

> belief in myself that the big dreams and aspirations i have in

life

> exist/will happen or it is just day dreaming, from your words i

also

> understand that you have a great interest and knowledge in

astrology.

>

> In this group i have read many messages posted by people but have

> still not been able to funnel down whether really predications

have

> come true(again doubting), surely life is a mix of ups and downs

but

> in my case the readings are so great that i am not able to digest

> them, by the grace of god i live a great life today and look at

the

> future very positively but also selfishely towards making things

> happen my way. Nadi has given me the added hope of fulfilling my

> dreams but maybe my maturity level of accepting what has been

> predicted is far less to your experiance.

>

> 1) May you please guide and try to express in a way to support and

> strenghten my belief.

> 2) I went to Vkoil for my 10th Gandam and Guruji wrote my gandam

> himself(thanks to him), do you suggest that i should also try to

get

> a reading from a different nadi person i.e. my gandam/notebook

from

> a different nadi reader.

>

> Thank you

>

> best regards

>

> KRS

>

>

> , " chandran_manoj "

> <chandran_manoj@> wrote:

> >

> > Hello All,

> >

> > Let me make some general comments about Nadi astrology:

> >

> > 1.There are two kinds of people who seek Nadi:

> >

> > a) People who have crisis in their lifes.

> > b) People who are just curious about its metaphysical

implications

> > for the thrill of it.

> > c) People who dont believe in it and are out to prove that this

is

> a

> > fraud.

> >

> > If you do not want to read any further and just want a quick

take

> > away from this email, here it is:

> >

> > If you belong to category (a) Nadi might be able to help you

(with

> > some important caveats). (I will explain more below).

> >

> > If you belong to category (b) DONT DO IT !!! You might be asking

> for

> > trouble !!!(I will explain below).

> >

> > If you belong to category ©, dont waste your time. Like any

> other

> > art form there are genuine ones and fradulent ones. You cannot

> > generalize this that easily.

> >

> > Now here is my explanation on this phenomenon (from personal

> > experience and analysis)

> >

> > In my opinion most of the Nadi's are either Jeevanadis (Live

> nadis)

> > or mantra Nadis (nadi's invoked by a mantra). I make a

distinction

> > between the two purposefully. I believe that in the Jeevanadis

> > (Agathiyar, Kagabujandar etc) the READER becomes a medium for

> these

> > Rishis and as a result of this the details " APPEAR " on the

Nadis.

> > Genuine Nadi READERS who lead pious lifes give authentic

Jeevanadi

> > readings that are 95% accurate regarding the future. Ofcourse

past

> > is always 100% accurate. (I say 95% for future because

extrodinary

> > spiritual karma can change the nadi readings by the grace of God

> and

> > these Rishis. But remember 95% of human beings are ordinary and

> > hence authentic Nadi readings are most of the time 100%

accurate).

> >

> > Unforunately it seems that there are also some Nadi Readers

> > who " MIMIC " the above styles using some " other " astral beings

who

> > are NOT self Reaslized Rishis. In these cases, the past is

> accurate

> > (because the Akashic records can be accessed in the Astral

Plane),

> > the NEAR FUTURE (1-2 years) may be accurate, but distant future

is

> > inaccurate.It is also unfortunately possible that unscrupolous

> > READERS can fake future tragedies to extract more money.

> >

> > The only way to distinguish between these two types of readings

is

> > by asking around and word of mouth. A true " READER " will have

> > excellent track record and almost 100% hit rate.

> >

> > However, even if your Nadi reading is accurate, should you get

it?

> > Before you get it consider these points:

> >

> > 1. Prarabdha Karma for this birth has to be dealt with. There is

> no

> > escape from it. The ONLY FREE WELL YOU HAVE IS HOW YOU REACT TO

IT.

> >

> > 2. Most life changing events are either extremely POSITIVE or

> > extremely NEGATIVE. You dont learn much from mundane events in

> life.

> >

> > 3. So, a true Nadi Reading will be FULL OF EXTREMELY POSITIVE

> > (birth, promotion, lottery winnings, spiritual upliftment etc)

> > and/or EXTREMELY NEGATIVE (death, loss of job, accidents,

poverty,

> > disease etc) EVENTS. Mundane events will not be noted.

> >

> > 4. Nadi reading is given by Rishis for a spiritual purpose. The

> > READERS are not psychologists, only MEDIUMS. So they have no

> > authority to " CENSOR " the READINGS. So what you see is what you

> get.

> >

> > Hence if you REALLY WANT a NADI reading please consider these

> things:

> >

> > A) You may come to find out when you are going to die.

> > B) You may come to find out when your spouse, parents and other

> > relatives are going to die.

> > c) You may come to find out about impending divorce in your life.

> > d) You may come to find out a disease in your life(some times

life

> > threatening).

> >

> > It is my humble opinion that any one thinking about getting a

Nadi

> > reading should be Psychologically and Spiritually READY for it.

If

> > you believe that prayer to God and a spiritual life along with

> doing

> > the best we can for our family is the purpose of life and take

the

> > READING as a Spiritual Challenge, THEN GO FOR IT!!!

> >

> > IF you dont think you can handle this, please stay away. Please

> > approach this great Tool (Nadi) with reverence and sincerity. It

> is

> > not a toy to be played with. It is NOT FOR ENTERTAINMENT

> PURPOSES !!!

> >

> > But for heavens sake, please do not paint all Nadi Astrologers

> with

> > the same brush and call them fakes. That is an insult to great

> > Rishis and honest READERS.

> >

> > -Manoj

> >

> > PS: I have no vested interest in Nadi Astrology. I dont have any

> > relatives/friends practising this. This message has been sent

with

> a

> > sincerity hoping it will help people interested in this topic.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Mr. Chandan

 

Thank you for your reply,

 

I always tell my friends that a emotional person is blessed with a

curse, that he understands the world from his heart but is

demotivated by from the deeds of others.

 

I am not doubting the readers nor have ever heard anyone spelling

foul words for any of the Nadi readers in my past 8 years of knowing

Nadi but i would wait for the experience you would be posting

becuase never came around anyone sharing an experience where they

confirmed something to happen after there reading.

 

Another thing you surely have your 3rd Bhava strong to shower great

words in a structured way, I would be very happy to read another

Alchemist written by chandran_manoj.

 

Yes i do believe in god and try to find myself when i am in front of

him exploring those spiritual competencies which strengthens ones

belief to lead a life of purpose.

 

I thank god for what i am and surely appreciate your words

 

best regards

 

KRS

 

 

, " chandran_manoj "

<chandran_manoj wrote:

>

> Hello KRS,

>

> Thank you for the kind complements. Your guess is correct. I have

> heard, seen and experienced spectacular predictions via Nadi

> astrology. I have also heard (but not experienced) spectacular

> frauds or misses. However (as before ) I have a theory about

that

> as well. Nay sayers can hear me out and then put forth their

> arguments.

>

> First, in a future posting, (when I have more time, I have a

> important deadline to meet soon) I will post a spectacular

> experience (100% true verified by me) of one of my uncles.

>

> For now let me propose my theory why some times (or many times)

some

> astrologers who " used to be accurate " are deemed to " frauds "

> suddenly. Mind you I am NOT accusing Mr.Sivaswamy at all. I

believe

> in innocent until proven guilty. We should not hang some one

before

> the trial.

>

> Having said that here are my arguments:

>

> 1. In this sceptical world do you think that people will spend

their

> hard earned money on Nadi if they had NOT heard about its accuracy

> from another source?

>

> 2. Do you think that some one like Mr.Sivaswamy can become so

famous

> (with politicians etc) after being a fraud?

>

> I doubt it. Once again I am not coming to any body's defence but

it

> seems unlikely that he was a life time fraud. I think what is more

> likely is that there are more " misses " vs " hits " in his camp

> nowadays.

>

> I still hold on to the fact that these readers are Psychic

mediums.

> It is a family business in most cases (with some noteable

> exceptions). I think that genetically they may be more attuned to

be

> mediumistic and further they develop this skill since childhood

(by

> repeating mantras and learning to meditate on astral deities with

> Mantra repetition etc). Some how the Nadi leaves enable them to

> contact the astral entity and be a Medium.

>

> It is my opinion that over commercialization or greed or failure

to

> follow certain precepts of propitiating the deities results in

> inferior results. After all they are at the mercy of these astral

> agents....you see it can be a tricky and dangerous game for them.

>

> That is why it is important to be pious and not greedy. THERE ARE

> STILL GENUINE PIOUS AND NON GREEDY READERS TODAY...AND HENCE THEY

> ARE VERY ACCURATE.

>

> Coming back to your question, If the Nadi predicted a spectacular

> life then it will mostly come true...GREAT JOB...you deserve

it ...

> you have earned it in your previous lifes.

>

> However, pay attention to the Gnanagandam ( the spiritual Gandam).

> That is the MOST important Gandam. After all all this existence is

> for the spiritual bliss....you see we are all waves waiting to be

> the sea...

>

> Believe in your great future, help the less fortunate people, try

to

> maximize this Life opportunity and gain in spirituality.

>

> Remember : " Money, wealth, health and power come and

> go...Spirituality is the only thig that comes and grows... " .

>

> -Manoj

> , " jim_sudden "

> <karanrajsharma@> wrote:

> >

> > Hello Mr. Manoj

> >

> > Your excellent way to guiding people towards the sacred belief

of

> > Nadi astrology makes me eager to request you to share some of

your

> > experiances about Nadi, I found my leaf after waiting for 7 years

> > (gurgaon center)and only at a time when i was in crisis. Earlier

> > though i was not trying to get it for fun but surely with a

strong

> > belief in myself that the big dreams and aspirations i have in

> life

> > exist/will happen or it is just day dreaming, from your words i

> also

> > understand that you have a great interest and knowledge in

> astrology.

> >

> > In this group i have read many messages posted by people but

have

> > still not been able to funnel down whether really predications

> have

> > come true(again doubting), surely life is a mix of ups and downs

> but

> > in my case the readings are so great that i am not able to

digest

> > them, by the grace of god i live a great life today and look at

> the

> > future very positively but also selfishely towards making things

> > happen my way. Nadi has given me the added hope of fulfilling my

> > dreams but maybe my maturity level of accepting what has been

> > predicted is far less to your experiance.

> >

> > 1) May you please guide and try to express in a way to support

and

> > strenghten my belief.

> > 2) I went to Vkoil for my 10th Gandam and Guruji wrote my gandam

> > himself(thanks to him), do you suggest that i should also try to

> get

> > a reading from a different nadi person i.e. my gandam/notebook

> from

> > a different nadi reader.

> >

> > Thank you

> >

> > best regards

> >

> > KRS

> >

> >

> > , " chandran_manoj "

> > <chandran_manoj@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hello All,

> > >

> > > Let me make some general comments about Nadi astrology:

> > >

> > > 1.There are two kinds of people who seek Nadi:

> > >

> > > a) People who have crisis in their lifes.

> > > b) People who are just curious about its metaphysical

> implications

> > > for the thrill of it.

> > > c) People who dont believe in it and are out to prove that

this

> is

> > a

> > > fraud.

> > >

> > > If you do not want to read any further and just want a quick

> take

> > > away from this email, here it is:

> > >

> > > If you belong to category (a) Nadi might be able to help you

> (with

> > > some important caveats). (I will explain more below).

> > >

> > > If you belong to category (b) DONT DO IT !!! You might be

asking

> > for

> > > trouble !!!(I will explain below).

> > >

> > > If you belong to category ©, dont waste your time. Like any

> > other

> > > art form there are genuine ones and fradulent ones. You cannot

> > > generalize this that easily.

> > >

> > > Now here is my explanation on this phenomenon (from personal

> > > experience and analysis)

> > >

> > > In my opinion most of the Nadi's are either Jeevanadis (Live

> > nadis)

> > > or mantra Nadis (nadi's invoked by a mantra). I make a

> distinction

> > > between the two purposefully. I believe that in the Jeevanadis

> > > (Agathiyar, Kagabujandar etc) the READER becomes a medium for

> > these

> > > Rishis and as a result of this the details " APPEAR " on the

> Nadis.

> > > Genuine Nadi READERS who lead pious lifes give authentic

> Jeevanadi

> > > readings that are 95% accurate regarding the future. Ofcourse

> past

> > > is always 100% accurate. (I say 95% for future because

> extrodinary

> > > spiritual karma can change the nadi readings by the grace of

God

> > and

> > > these Rishis. But remember 95% of human beings are ordinary

and

> > > hence authentic Nadi readings are most of the time 100%

> accurate).

> > >

> > > Unforunately it seems that there are also some Nadi Readers

> > > who " MIMIC " the above styles using some " other " astral beings

> who

> > > are NOT self Reaslized Rishis. In these cases, the past is

> > accurate

> > > (because the Akashic records can be accessed in the Astral

> Plane),

> > > the NEAR FUTURE (1-2 years) may be accurate, but distant

future

> is

> > > inaccurate.It is also unfortunately possible that unscrupolous

> > > READERS can fake future tragedies to extract more money.

> > >

> > > The only way to distinguish between these two types of

readings

> is

> > > by asking around and word of mouth. A true " READER " will have

> > > excellent track record and almost 100% hit rate.

> > >

> > > However, even if your Nadi reading is accurate, should you get

> it?

> > > Before you get it consider these points:

> > >

> > > 1. Prarabdha Karma for this birth has to be dealt with. There

is

> > no

> > > escape from it. The ONLY FREE WELL YOU HAVE IS HOW YOU REACT

TO

> IT.

> > >

> > > 2. Most life changing events are either extremely POSITIVE or

> > > extremely NEGATIVE. You dont learn much from mundane events in

> > life.

> > >

> > > 3. So, a true Nadi Reading will be FULL OF EXTREMELY POSITIVE

> > > (birth, promotion, lottery winnings, spiritual upliftment etc)

> > > and/or EXTREMELY NEGATIVE (death, loss of job, accidents,

> poverty,

> > > disease etc) EVENTS. Mundane events will not be noted.

> > >

> > > 4. Nadi reading is given by Rishis for a spiritual purpose.

The

> > > READERS are not psychologists, only MEDIUMS. So they have no

> > > authority to " CENSOR " the READINGS. So what you see is what

you

> > get.

> > >

> > > Hence if you REALLY WANT a NADI reading please consider these

> > things:

> > >

> > > A) You may come to find out when you are going to die.

> > > B) You may come to find out when your spouse, parents and

other

> > > relatives are going to die.

> > > c) You may come to find out about impending divorce in your

life.

> > > d) You may come to find out a disease in your life(some times

> life

> > > threatening).

> > >

> > > It is my humble opinion that any one thinking about getting a

> Nadi

> > > reading should be Psychologically and Spiritually READY for

it.

> If

> > > you believe that prayer to God and a spiritual life along with

> > doing

> > > the best we can for our family is the purpose of life and take

> the

> > > READING as a Spiritual Challenge, THEN GO FOR IT!!!

> > >

> > > IF you dont think you can handle this, please stay away.

Please

> > > approach this great Tool (Nadi) with reverence and sincerity.

It

> > is

> > > not a toy to be played with. It is NOT FOR ENTERTAINMENT

> > PURPOSES !!!

> > >

> > > But for heavens sake, please do not paint all Nadi Astrologers

> > with

> > > the same brush and call them fakes. That is an insult to great

> > > Rishis and honest READERS.

> > >

> > > -Manoj

> > >

> > > PS: I have no vested interest in Nadi Astrology. I dont have

any

> > > relatives/friends practising this. This message has been sent

> with

> > a

> > > sincerity hoping it will help people interested in this topic.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

can you please post the address of this- i vistited one nadi reader

in may and he predicted something would happen in a month, its been

45 days already, it has not happened. any comments anyone on the

timing of events?

thanks!

 

-- In , " jim_sudden "

<karanrajsharma wrote:

>

> Hello Mr. Manoj

>

> Your excellent way to guiding people towards the sacred belief of

> Nadi astrology makes me eager to request you to share some of your

> experiances about Nadi, I found my leaf after waiting for 7 years

> (gurgaon center)and only at a time when i was in crisis. Earlier

> though i was not trying to get it for fun but surely with a strong

> belief in myself that the big dreams and aspirations i have in

life

> exist/will happen or it is just day dreaming, from your words i

also

> understand that you have a great interest and knowledge in

astrology.

>

> In this group i have read many messages posted by people but have

> still not been able to funnel down whether really predications

have

> come true(again doubting), surely life is a mix of ups and downs

but

> in my case the readings are so great that i am not able to digest

> them, by the grace of god i live a great life today and look at

the

> future very positively but also selfishely towards making things

> happen my way. Nadi has given me the added hope of fulfilling my

> dreams but maybe my maturity level of accepting what has been

> predicted is far less to your experiance.

>

> 1) May you please guide and try to express in a way to support and

> strenghten my belief.

> 2) I went to Vkoil for my 10th Gandam and Guruji wrote my gandam

> himself(thanks to him), do you suggest that i should also try to

get

> a reading from a different nadi person i.e. my gandam/notebook

from

> a different nadi reader.

>

> Thank you

>

> best regards

>

> KRS

>

>

> , " chandran_manoj "

> <chandran_manoj@> wrote:

> >

> > Hello All,

> >

> > Let me make some general comments about Nadi astrology:

> >

> > 1.There are two kinds of people who seek Nadi:

> >

> > a) People who have crisis in their lifes.

> > b) People who are just curious about its metaphysical

implications

> > for the thrill of it.

> > c) People who dont believe in it and are out to prove that this

is

> a

> > fraud.

> >

> > If you do not want to read any further and just want a quick

take

> > away from this email, here it is:

> >

> > If you belong to category (a) Nadi might be able to help you

(with

> > some important caveats). (I will explain more below).

> >

> > If you belong to category (b) DONT DO IT !!! You might be asking

> for

> > trouble !!!(I will explain below).

> >

> > If you belong to category ©, dont waste your time. Like any

> other

> > art form there are genuine ones and fradulent ones. You cannot

> > generalize this that easily.

> >

> > Now here is my explanation on this phenomenon (from personal

> > experience and analysis)

> >

> > In my opinion most of the Nadi's are either Jeevanadis (Live

> nadis)

> > or mantra Nadis (nadi's invoked by a mantra). I make a

distinction

> > between the two purposefully. I believe that in the Jeevanadis

> > (Agathiyar, Kagabujandar etc) the READER becomes a medium for

> these

> > Rishis and as a result of this the details " APPEAR " on the

Nadis.

> > Genuine Nadi READERS who lead pious lifes give authentic

Jeevanadi

> > readings that are 95% accurate regarding the future. Ofcourse

past

> > is always 100% accurate. (I say 95% for future because

extrodinary

> > spiritual karma can change the nadi readings by the grace of God

> and

> > these Rishis. But remember 95% of human beings are ordinary and

> > hence authentic Nadi readings are most of the time 100%

accurate).

> >

> > Unforunately it seems that there are also some Nadi Readers

> > who " MIMIC " the above styles using some " other " astral beings

who

> > are NOT self Reaslized Rishis. In these cases, the past is

> accurate

> > (because the Akashic records can be accessed in the Astral

Plane),

> > the NEAR FUTURE (1-2 years) may be accurate, but distant future

is

> > inaccurate.It is also unfortunately possible that unscrupolous

> > READERS can fake future tragedies to extract more money.

> >

> > The only way to distinguish between these two types of readings

is

> > by asking around and word of mouth. A true " READER " will have

> > excellent track record and almost 100% hit rate.

> >

> > However, even if your Nadi reading is accurate, should you get

it?

> > Before you get it consider these points:

> >

> > 1. Prarabdha Karma for this birth has to be dealt with. There is

> no

> > escape from it. The ONLY FREE WELL YOU HAVE IS HOW YOU REACT TO

IT.

> >

> > 2. Most life changing events are either extremely POSITIVE or

> > extremely NEGATIVE. You dont learn much from mundane events in

> life.

> >

> > 3. So, a true Nadi Reading will be FULL OF EXTREMELY POSITIVE

> > (birth, promotion, lottery winnings, spiritual upliftment etc)

> > and/or EXTREMELY NEGATIVE (death, loss of job, accidents,

poverty,

> > disease etc) EVENTS. Mundane events will not be noted.

> >

> > 4. Nadi reading is given by Rishis for a spiritual purpose. The

> > READERS are not psychologists, only MEDIUMS. So they have no

> > authority to " CENSOR " the READINGS. So what you see is what you

> get.

> >

> > Hence if you REALLY WANT a NADI reading please consider these

> things:

> >

> > A) You may come to find out when you are going to die.

> > B) You may come to find out when your spouse, parents and other

> > relatives are going to die.

> > c) You may come to find out about impending divorce in your life.

> > d) You may come to find out a disease in your life(some times

life

> > threatening).

> >

> > It is my humble opinion that any one thinking about getting a

Nadi

> > reading should be Psychologically and Spiritually READY for it.

If

> > you believe that prayer to God and a spiritual life along with

> doing

> > the best we can for our family is the purpose of life and take

the

> > READING as a Spiritual Challenge, THEN GO FOR IT!!!

> >

> > IF you dont think you can handle this, please stay away. Please

> > approach this great Tool (Nadi) with reverence and sincerity. It

> is

> > not a toy to be played with. It is NOT FOR ENTERTAINMENT

> PURPOSES !!!

> >

> > But for heavens sake, please do not paint all Nadi Astrologers

> with

> > the same brush and call them fakes. That is an insult to great

> > Rishis and honest READERS.

> >

> > -Manoj

> >

> > PS: I have no vested interest in Nadi Astrology. I dont have any

> > relatives/friends practising this. This message has been sent

with

> a

> > sincerity hoping it will help people interested in this topic.

> >

>