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March 14, 2006

Respected Sir,

I am still searching for the answer .How a man can have two different

classification of thumb impressions with same thumb at two nadi

readers and both the nadi readers arrive at the same parent name etc.?

regards

In , " mgoel1973 " <mgoel1973 wrote:

>

> Dear Sirs,

> As i already mentioned in my forwarded mail that the readings given

> by two readers were different.

> I have once again heard the cassetts given by them and found out

that

> the nomenclature of thumb impressions mentioned by them are

different.

> HOW it is possible that same thumb has two different impressions?

> regards

>

> , " mgoel1973 " <mgoel1973@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Respected Members,

> >

> > I am new to this forum but I have visited two readers in Delhi

last

> > year.What I wish to state is that both gave different

> > readings .Moreover please clarify that why the readings were

> totally

> > different and whom to believe.I visited both these people in span

> of

> > one month or so ,so it can not be that my karmas between both the

> > readings has changed my future.

> > Can anyone give me the address of genuine reader in delhi.

> >

> > I also consulted shanti and deeksha kandama with one reader.He

told

> me

> > various poojas which I didnt do as I daily perform poojas

otherwise.

> > I want to know how giving finances for pooja to reader will

change

> your

> > future.???? But Yes, I do agree that if you are doing good deeds

in

> > favour humanity then it can surely change your future.But

> surprisingly

> > nadi readers do not advise you to do social service /or good

karmas

> in

> > these kandams.So person can get everything if he finances these

> poojas?

> > Please enlighten me on this point also.

> > regards

> >

>

March 15, 2006

Yes. I have the same experince in my field research. But the nadi astrologers answers me that In tamil,there is a chance for Multiple meanings for a single term. So the reka name may be diff. but in the same manner ex-- AADHI REKAI SUZHI REKAI VATTA REKAI MANI VATTA REKAI AATHIC CHAKKARA REKAI ABOVE ALL ARE THE SAME, SINGLE REKAS NAME. But there may be a subdivision also. rest in next swammgoel1973 <mgoel1973 wrote: Respected Sir,I am still searching for the answer .How a man can have two different classification of thumb impressions with

same thumb at two nadi readers and both the nadi readers arrive at the same parent name etc.?regardsIn , "mgoel1973" <mgoel1973 wrote:>> > Dear Sirs,> As i already mentioned in my forwarded mail that the readings given > by two readers were different.> I have once again heard the cassetts given by them and found out that > the nomenclature of thumb impressions mentioned by them are different.> HOW it is possible that same thumb has two different impressions?> regards> > , "mgoel1973" <mgoel1973@> > wrote:> >> > Respected Members,> > > > I am new to this forum but I have visited two readers in Delhi last > > year.What I wish to state is that both gave different > > readings .Moreover please clarify that why the readings were

> totally > > different and whom to believe.I visited both these people in span > of > > one month or so ,so it can not be that my karmas between both the > > readings has changed my future.> > Can anyone give me the address of genuine reader in delhi.> > > > I also consulted shanti and deeksha kandama with one reader.He told > me > > various poojas which I didnt do as I daily perform poojas otherwise.> > I want to know how giving finances for pooja to reader will change > your > > future.???? But Yes, I do agree that if you are doing good deeds in > > favour humanity then it can surely change your future.But > surprisingly > > nadi readers do not advise you to do social service /or good karmas > in > > these kandams.So person can get everything if he finances these > poojas?> > Please

enlighten me on this point also.> > regards> >>

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March 16, 2006

Dear Mgoelji,

As explained by swamiji, It could happen. In additoion the no of dots also change in two Naadies. It only refers to the packet.It could be explained by the research minded readers. Others may confuse the issue for nothing. Elderly reders whom we expect to answer they feel raged if we ask the explainations. Some young persons from the clan of the Naadi readers, if come forward then only some possibilities of logical answers could be obtained. Wg Cdr Oak Pune.

On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 ambi 33 wrote :

>Yes. I have the same experince in my field research. But the nadi astrologers answers me that In tamil,there is a chance for Multiple meanings for a single term. So the reka name may be diff. but in the same manner

>

> ex-- AADHI REKAI

> SUZHI REKAI

> VATTA REKAI

> MANI VATTA REKAI

> AATHIC CHAKKARA REKAI

>

> ABOVE ALL ARE THE SAME, SINGLE REKAS NAME. But there may be a subdivision also.

>

> rest in next

>

> swam

>

>mgoel1973 <mgoel1973 wrote:

> Respected Sir,

>I am still searching for the answer .How a man can have two different

>classification of thumb impressions with same thumb at two nadi

>readers and both the nadi readers arrive at the same parent name etc.?

>regards

>

>In , " mgoel1973 " <mgoel1973 wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sirs,

> > As i already mentioned in my forwarded mail that the readings given

> > by two readers were different.

> > I have once again heard the cassetts given by them and found out

>that

> > the nomenclature of thumb impressions mentioned by them are

>different.

> > HOW it is possible that same thumb has two different impressions?

> > regards

> >

> > , " mgoel1973 " <mgoel1973@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Respected Members,

> > >

> > > I am new to this forum but I have visited two readers in Delhi

>last

> > > year.What I wish to state is that both gave different

> > > readings .Moreover please clarify that why the readings were

> > totally

> > > different and whom to believe.I visited both these people in span

> > of

> > > one month or so ,so it can not be that my karmas between both the

> > > readings has changed my future.

> > > Can anyone give me the address of genuine reader in delhi.

> > >

> > > I also consulted shanti and deeksha kandama with one reader.He

>told

> > me

> > > various poojas which I didnt do as I daily perform poojas

>otherwise.

> > > I want to know how giving finances for pooja to reader will

>change

> > your

> > > future.???? But Yes, I do agree that if you are doing good deeds

>in

> > > favour humanity then it can surely change your future.But

> > surprisingly

> > > nadi readers do not advise you to do social service /or good

>karmas

> > in

> > > these kandams.So person can get everything if he finances these

> > poojas?

> > > Please enlighten me on this point also.

> > > regards

> > >

> >

>

March 17, 2006

Dear Sri Shashiji,

What are yout comments about A.Sivasamy in V.Koil? Also, anyone else

has any experiences with them?

Thanks

, " Shashi Oak " <shashi_oak

wrote:

>

> Dear Mgoelji,

> As explained by swamiji, It could happen. In additoion the no of

dots also change in two Naadies. It only refers to the packet.It

could be explained by the research minded readers. Others may

confuse the issue for nothing. Elderly reders whom we expect to

answer they feel raged if we ask the explainations. Some young

persons from the clan of the Naadi readers, if come forward then

only some possibilities of logical answers could be obtained. Wg Cdr

Oak Pune.

> On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 ambi 33 wrote :

> >Yes. I have the same experince in my field research. But the nadi

astrologers answers me that In tamil,there is a chance for Multiple

meanings for a single term. So the reka name may be diff. but in the

same manner

> >

> > ex-- AADHI REKAI

> > SUZHI REKAI

> > VATTA REKAI

> > MANI VATTA REKAI

> > AATHIC CHAKKARA REKAI

> >

> > ABOVE ALL ARE THE SAME, SINGLE REKAS NAME. But there may be a

subdivision also.

> >

> > rest in next

> >

> > swam

> >

> >mgoel1973 <mgoel1973 wrote:

> > Respected Sir,

> >I am still searching for the answer .How a man can have two

different

> >classification of thumb impressions with same thumb at two nadi

> >readers and both the nadi readers arrive at the same parent name

etc.?

> >regards

> >

> >In , " mgoel1973 " <mgoel1973@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Sirs,

> > > As i already mentioned in my forwarded mail that the readings

given

> > > by two readers were different.

> > > I have once again heard the cassetts given by them and found

out

> >that

> > > the nomenclature of thumb impressions mentioned by them are

> >different.

> > > HOW it is possible that same thumb has two different

impressions?

> > > regards

> > >

> > > , " mgoel1973 " <mgoel1973@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Respected Members,

> > > >

> > > > I am new to this forum but I have visited two readers in

Delhi

> >last

> > > > year.What I wish to state is that both gave different

> > > > readings .Moreover please clarify that why the readings were

> > > totally

> > > > different and whom to believe.I visited both these people in

span

> > > of

> > > > one month or so ,so it can not be that my karmas between

both the

> > > > readings has changed my future.

> > > > Can anyone give me the address of genuine reader in delhi.

> > > >

> > > > I also consulted shanti and deeksha kandama with one

reader.He

> >told

> > > me

> > > > various poojas which I didnt do as I daily perform poojas

> >otherwise.

> > > > I want to know how giving finances for pooja to reader will

> >change

> > > your

> > > > future.???? But Yes, I do agree that if you are doing good

deeds

> >in

> > > > favour humanity then it can surely change your future.But

> > > surprisingly

> > > > nadi readers do not advise you to do social service /or good

> >karmas

> > > in

> > > > these kandams.So person can get everything if he finances

these

> > > poojas?

> > > > Please enlighten me on this point also.

> > > > regards

> > > >

> > >

> >

March 18, 2006

Dear bluerutas, and other Naadi lovers,

You have asked to me to comment about Thiru A Shiva swami of V Koil. Let me make it clear to all Naadi lovers that all Naadi readers and their centers are good. Whereever you find the leaf mentioning your exact details, please get it verified from the Tamil knowing persons that the names and other information is really there or not. Even if it is there the doubt still burks in the mind of the persons seeking the predictions for the first time. The quality of reading, interpretation, translation and Maharshees discretion or intention to tell specific or some incorrect informatoion deliberately are some of the intrigueing points make the man's opinion about Naadi in genral and center in perticular. Many have very good experience of a center whereas somwe feel cheated by the same center.

Therefore I leave it to one's own judgement.

Wg Cdr Shashikant Oak Pune

On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 bluerutas wrote :

>Dear Sri Shashiji,

>

>What are yout comments about A.Sivasamy in V.Koil? Also, anyone else

>has any experiences with them?

>

>Thanks

>

> , " Shashi Oak " <shashi_oak

>wrote:

> >

> > Dear Mgoelji,

> > As explained by swamiji, It could happen. In additoion the no of

>dots also change in two Naadies. It only refers to the packet.It

>could be explained by the research minded readers. Others may

>confuse the issue for nothing. Elderly reders whom we expect to

>answer they feel raged if we ask the explainations. Some young

>persons from the clan of the Naadi readers, if come forward then

>only some possibilities of logical answers could be obtained. Wg Cdr

>Oak Pune.

> > On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 ambi 33 wrote :

> > >Yes. I have the same experince in my field research. But the nadi

>astrologers answers me that In tamil,there is a chance for Multiple

>meanings for a single term. So the reka name may be diff. but in the

>same manner

> > >

> > > ex-- AADHI REKAI

> > > SUZHI REKAI

> > > VATTA REKAI

> > > MANI VATTA REKAI

> > > AATHIC CHAKKARA REKAI

> > >

> > > ABOVE ALL ARE THE SAME, SINGLE REKAS NAME. But there may be a

>subdivision also.

> > >

> > > rest in next

> > >

> > > swam

> > >

> > >mgoel1973 <mgoel1973 wrote:

> > > Respected Sir,

> > >I am still searching for the answer .How a man can have two

>different

> > >classification of thumb impressions with same thumb at two nadi

> > >readers and both the nadi readers arrive at the same parent name

>etc.?

> > >regards

> > >

> > >In , " mgoel1973 " <mgoel1973@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sirs,

> > > > As i already mentioned in my forwarded mail that the readings

>given

> > > > by two readers were different.

> > > > I have once again heard the cassetts given by them and found

>out

> > >that

> > > > the nomenclature of thumb impressions mentioned by them are

> > >different.

> > > > HOW it is possible that same thumb has two different

>impressions?

> > > > regards

> > > >

> > > > , " mgoel1973 " <mgoel1973@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Respected Members,

> > > > >

> > > > > I am new to this forum but I have visited two readers in

>Delhi

> > >last

> > > > > year.What I wish to state is that both gave different

> > > > > readings .Moreover please clarify that why the readings were

> > > > totally

> > > > > different and whom to believe.I visited both these people in

>span

> > > > of

> > > > > one month or so ,so it can not be that my karmas between

>both the

> > > > > readings has changed my future.

> > > > > Can anyone give me the address of genuine reader in delhi.

> > > > >

> > > > > I also consulted shanti and deeksha kandama with one

>reader.He

> > >told

> > > > me

> > > > > various poojas which I didnt do as I daily perform poojas

> > >otherwise.

> > > > > I want to know how giving finances for pooja to reader will

> > >change

> > > > your

> > > > > future.???? But Yes, I do agree that if you are doing good

>deeds

> > >in

> > > > > favour humanity then it can surely change your future.But

> > > > surprisingly

> > > > > nadi readers do not advise you to do social service /or good

> > >karmas

> > > > in

> > > > > these kandams.So person can get everything if he finances

>these

> > > > poojas?

> > > > > Please enlighten me on this point also.

> > > > > regards

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

March 20, 2006

Dear sri shashiji,

I have seen naadi for me and a few of my relatives and friends in

multiple places in chennai and V.Koil from the popular names.

But none of them come forward to give me the 'leaf'( my intention was

exactly, as u said, verify these things by showing to a tamil knowing

person). They say it is sacred etc. They dont even allow me to

photograph or videograph it. They show it briefly though. The

writings are very small and minute and some cases like scriblings,

wonder how they manage to read it.!!

Though many of the predictions seem to have come true., the doubt

still lingers, on whether they really read the lead or use our DOB,

to get the horoscope and follow astrological means.

The doubt arises because, in some popular centers in V.koil daily

they see for about 10-20 people newly( on the avg.) THey 've been

doing this for several decades.If we do a simple calculation this

runs into several lakhs of people. Do they really have individual

leaflets for so many lakhs of people.How much time rishis would have

spent to write this. The entire bundles were said to be taken from

chidambaram temple by Raja raja chola was fitted into a few vehicles

to be transported to tanjore.

One person who did lot of study in this field a few decades back told

it is all 'yakshini vasiyam' in 90% of the places.

There is a lot of money involved here, and one of the guys in V.koil,

who gets the maximum number of clients daily, some of whom come from

far off places and stay for days here, has been target of IT raids

in the past.They have good rapport with high govt officials and

politicians !!

It is important for some forum to validate the veracity of such

centres.the only way would be to examine the leaflets in a scientific

way.

, " Shashi Oak " <shashi_oak

wrote:

>

> Dear bluerutas, and other Naadi lovers,

> You have asked to me to comment about Thiru A Shiva swami of V

Koil. Let me make it clear to all Naadi lovers that all Naadi readers

and their centers are good. Whereever you find the leaf mentioning

your exact details, please get it verified from the Tamil knowing

persons that the names and other information is really there or not.

Even if it is there the doubt still burks in the mind of the persons

seeking the predictions for the first time. The quality of reading,

interpretation, translation and Maharshees discretion or intention to

tell specific or some incorrect informatoion deliberately are some of

the intrigueing points make the man's opinion about Naadi in genral

and center in perticular. Many have very good experience of a center

whereas somwe feel cheated by the same center.

> Therefore I leave it to one's own judgement.

> Wg Cdr Shashikant Oak Pune

>

> On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 bluerutas wrote :

> >Dear Sri Shashiji,

> >

> >What are yout comments about A.Sivasamy in V.Koil? Also, anyone

else

> >has any experiences with them?

> >

> >Thanks

> >

> > , " Shashi Oak " <shashi_oak@>

> >wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Mgoelji,

> > > As explained by swamiji, It could happen. In additoion the no of

> >dots also change in two Naadies. It only refers to the packet.It

> >could be explained by the research minded readers. Others may

> >confuse the issue for nothing. Elderly reders whom we expect to

> >answer they feel raged if we ask the explainations. Some young

> >persons from the clan of the Naadi readers, if come forward then

> >only some possibilities of logical answers could be obtained. Wg

Cdr

> >Oak Pune.

> > > On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 ambi 33 wrote :

> > > >Yes. I have the same experince in my field research. But the

nadi

> >astrologers answers me that In tamil,there is a chance for Multiple

> >meanings for a single term. So the reka name may be diff. but in

the

> >same manner

> > > >

> > > > ex-- AADHI REKAI

> > > > SUZHI REKAI

> > > > VATTA REKAI

> > > > MANI VATTA REKAI

> > > > AATHIC CHAKKARA REKAI

> > > >

> > > > ABOVE ALL ARE THE SAME, SINGLE REKAS NAME. But there may be

a

> >subdivision also.

> > > >

> > > > rest in next

> > > >

> > > > swam

> > > >

> > > >mgoel1973 <mgoel1973@> wrote:

> > > > Respected Sir,

> > > >I am still searching for the answer .How a man can have two

> >different

> > > >classification of thumb impressions with same thumb at two nadi

> > > >readers and both the nadi readers arrive at the same parent

name

> >etc.?

> > > >regards

> > > >

> > > >In , " mgoel1973 " <mgoel1973@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Sirs,

> > > > > As i already mentioned in my forwarded mail that the

readings

> >given

> > > > > by two readers were different.

> > > > > I have once again heard the cassetts given by them and found

> >out

> > > >that

> > > > > the nomenclature of thumb impressions mentioned by them are

> > > >different.

> > > > > HOW it is possible that same thumb has two different

> >impressions?

> > > > > regards

> > > > >

> > > > > , " mgoel1973 "

<mgoel1973@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Respected Members,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am new to this forum but I have visited two readers in

> >Delhi

> > > >last

> > > > > > year.What I wish to state is that both gave different

> > > > > > readings .Moreover please clarify that why the readings

were

> > > > > totally

> > > > > > different and whom to believe.I visited both these people

in

> >span

> > > > > of

> > > > > > one month or so ,so it can not be that my karmas between

> >both the

> > > > > > readings has changed my future.

> > > > > > Can anyone give me the address of genuine reader in delhi.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I also consulted shanti and deeksha kandama with one

> >reader.He

> > > >told

> > > > > me

> > > > > > various poojas which I didnt do as I daily perform poojas

> > > >otherwise.

> > > > > > I want to know how giving finances for pooja to reader

will

> > > >change

> > > > > your

> > > > > > future.???? But Yes, I do agree that if you are doing good

> >deeds

> > > >in

> > > > > > favour humanity then it can surely change your future.But

> > > > > surprisingly

> > > > > > nadi readers do not advise you to do social service /or

good

> > > >karmas

> > > > > in

> > > > > > these kandams.So person can get everything if he finances

> >these

> > > > > poojas?

> > > > > > Please enlighten me on this point also.

> > > > > > regards

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

March 20, 2006

I am absolutely new to this forum and this field. Could you please explain what is 'yakshini vasiyam' ? Please pardon me for my absolute lack of knowledge. Thanks ! sanjeev2475 <sanjeev2475 wrote: Dear sri shashiji,I have seen naadi for me and a few of my relatives and friends in multiple places in chennai and V.Koil from the popular names.But none of them come forward to give me the 'leaf'( my intention was exactly, as u said, verify these things by showing to a tamil knowing person). They say it is sacred etc. They dont even allow me to photograph or videograph it. They show it briefly though. The writings are very small and minute and some cases

like scriblings, wonder how they manage to read it.!!Though many of the predictions seem to have come true., the doubt still lingers, on whether they really read the lead or use our DOB, to get the horoscope and follow astrological means. The doubt arises because, in some popular centers in V.koil daily they see for about 10-20 people newly( on the avg.) THey 've been doing this for several decades.If we do a simple calculation this runs into several lakhs of people. Do they really have individual leaflets for so many lakhs of people.How much time rishis would have spent to write this. The entire bundles were said to be taken from chidambaram temple by Raja raja chola was fitted into a few vehicles to be transported to tanjore. One person who did lot of study in this field a few decades back told it is all 'yakshini vasiyam' in 90% of the places.There is a lot of money involved here, and one of the

guys in V.koil, who gets the maximum number of clients daily, some of whom come from far off places and stay for days here, has been target of IT raids in the past.They have good rapport with high govt officials and politicians !!It is important for some forum to validate the veracity of such centres.the only way would be to examine the leaflets in a scientific way. , "Shashi Oak" <shashi_oak wrote:>> Dear bluerutas, and other Naadi lovers,> You have asked to me to comment about Thiru A Shiva swami of V Koil. Let me make it clear to all Naadi lovers that all Naadi readers and their centers are good. Whereever you find the leaf mentioning your exact details, please get it verified from the Tamil knowing persons that the names and other information is really there or not. Even if it is there the doubt still burks in

the mind of the persons seeking the predictions for the first time. The quality of reading, interpretation, translation and Maharshees discretion or intention to tell specific or some incorrect informatoion deliberately are some of the intrigueing points make the man's opinion about Naadi in genral and center in perticular. Many have very good experience of a center whereas somwe feel cheated by the same center.> Therefore I leave it to one's own judgement. > Wg Cdr Shashikant Oak Pune > > > On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 bluerutas wrote :> >Dear Sri Shashiji,> >> >What are yout comments about A.Sivasamy in V.Koil? Also, anyone else> >has any experiences with them?> >> >Thanks> >> > , "Shashi Oak" <shashi_oak@>> >wrote:> > >> > >> > >>

> > Dear Mgoelji,> > > As explained by swamiji, It could happen. In additoion the no of> >dots also change in two Naadies. It only refers to the packet.It> >could be explained by the research minded readers. Others may> >confuse the issue for nothing. Elderly reders whom we expect to> >answer they feel raged if we ask the explainations. Some young> >persons from the clan of the Naadi readers, if come forward then> >only some possibilities of logical answers could be obtained. Wg Cdr> >Oak Pune.> > > On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 ambi 33 wrote :> > > >Yes. I have the same experince in my field research. But the nadi> >astrologers answers me that In tamil,there is a chance for Multiple> >meanings for a single term. So the reka name may be diff. but in the> >same manner> > > >> > > > ex-- AADHI

REKAI> > > > SUZHI REKAI> > > > VATTA REKAI> > > > MANI VATTA REKAI> > > > AATHIC CHAKKARA REKAI> > > >> > > > ABOVE ALL ARE THE SAME, SINGLE REKAS NAME. But there may be a> >subdivision also.> > > >> > > > rest in next> > > >> > > > swam> > > >> > > >mgoel1973 <mgoel1973@> wrote:> > > > Respected Sir,> > > >I am still searching for the answer .How a man can have two> >different> > > >classification of thumb impressions with same thumb at two nadi> > > >readers and both the nadi

readers arrive at the same parent name> >etc.?> > > >regards> > > >> > > >In , "mgoel1973" <mgoel1973@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Sirs,> > > > > As i already mentioned in my forwarded mail that the readings> >given> > > > > by two readers were different.> > > > > I have once again heard the cassetts given by them and found> >out> > > >that> > > > > the nomenclature of thumb impressions mentioned by them are> > > >different.> > > > > HOW it is possible that same thumb has two different> >impressions?> > > > > regards> > > > >> > > > > , "mgoel1973"

<mgoel1973@>> > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Respected Members,> > > > > >> > > > > > I am new to this forum but I have visited two readers in> >Delhi> > > >last> > > > > > year.What I wish to state is that both gave different> > > > > > readings .Moreover please clarify that why the readings were> > > > > totally> > > > > > different and whom to believe.I visited both these people in> >span> > > > > of> > > > > > one month or so ,so it can not be that my karmas between> >both the> > > > > > readings has changed my future.> > > > > > Can anyone give me the address of genuine reader in delhi.> > > > > >> > >

> > > I also consulted shanti and deeksha kandama with one> >reader.He> > > >told> > > > > me> > > > > > various poojas which I didnt do as I daily perform poojas> > > >otherwise.> > > > > > I want to know how giving finances for pooja to reader will> > > >change> > > > > your> > > > > > future.???? But Yes, I do agree that if you are doing good> >deeds> > > >in> > > > > > favour humanity then it can surely change your future.But> > > > > surprisingly> > > > > > nadi readers do not advise you to do social service /or good> > > >karmas> > > > > in> > > > > > these kandams.So person can get everything if he finances> >these> > > > >

poojas?> > > > > > Please enlighten me on this point also.> > > > > > regards> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >

March 21, 2006

Dear Sanjeevji,

You are very right. There should be a forum which would undertake the scientific study of Naadi leves and its predictions.

You might have read in my previous letters and attachments, how skeptic peresons like B. Premandnad refute the Naadi predictions on very flimsy grounds.They propogate illogical theories like the Naadi readers go to the secret rooms (meaning the place where the stock of Naadi leaves are kept)wherein some Naadi persons expert in writing of leaves are ready to write on the blank leaves the information gathered by subtle and cunning questioning and by some informants (stooges)placed in the crowd to extract details of the possible customers. Shri Eshwaran, who runs three Naadi centers in Pune had replied to his absurd logic.\a nd imaginary guesses.

I have been trying to creat a forum in Pune,constituted by eminent scientists and thinkers without the hindrence of rationalist organizations.In this, Padma Bhushan, Dr. Vijay Bhatkar, prominent Scientist and wizard of Supercomputer in India and great Naadi lover . He had given written consent to be the Chairperson for such research forum, along with some prominent scintists, even person like Padma Vihushan Dr. Jayant Narlikar who had stamped the Naadi as HOAX without experiencing it. All these correspondences with Dr. Narlkar and rationalist organizations are available in the book " NAADI PREDICTIONS - A MIND BOGGLING MIRACLE " (Costing Rs 95/-)

This type of research is possible only when the Chief Naadi readers of prominent centers agree to come forward. They will have to change their mind sets. It should be understood by them that the research would not cuse harm but stop bad reputaion created by their uncooperation.

I Tax raids on the centers are not new, yet these persons will not learn the lesson. They willnot register under Shop Act, pay Professionl or Service Taxes. Maintain accounts in proper fashion.

Keep Visiters - Suggestion Books, call some prominent Naadi lovers to hand over alms given to them by the customers when they finish Shanti Deesksha etc to poor and needy. Place those photographs on the walls or in the album.

You will now realize that how much efforts I had to put in, to obtain the Photos of Naadi leaves.

All these sort of efforts should come from within rather than being imposed by outsiders like us. May be Maharshees themselves will inspire them to sort out all possible doubts.

Wg Cdr Shashikant Oak Pune,

On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 sanjeev2475 wrote :

>Dear sri shashiji,

>I have seen naadi for me and a few of my relatives and friends in

>multiple places in chennai and V.Koil from the popular names.

>But none of them come forward to give me the 'leaf'( my intention was

>exactly, as u said, verify these things by showing to a tamil knowing

>person). They say it is sacred etc. They dont even allow me to

>photograph or videograph it. They show it briefly though. The

>writings are very small and minute and some cases like scriblings,

>wonder how they manage to read it.!!

>

>Though many of the predictions seem to have come true., the doubt

>still lingers, on whether they really read the lead or use our DOB,

>to get the horoscope and follow astrological means.

>

>The doubt arises because, in some popular centers in V.koil daily

>they see for about 10-20 people newly( on the avg.) THey 've been

>doing this for several decades.If we do a simple calculation this

>runs into several lakhs of people. Do they really have individual

>leaflets for so many lakhs of people.How much time rishis would have

>spent to write this. The entire bundles were said to be taken from

>chidambaram temple by Raja raja chola was fitted into a few vehicles

>to be transported to tanjore.

>

>One person who did lot of study in this field a few decades back told

>it is all 'yakshini vasiyam' in 90% of the places.

>

>There is a lot of money involved here, and one of the guys in V.koil,

>who gets the maximum number of clients daily, some of whom come from

>far off places and stay for days here, has been target of IT raids

>in the past.They have good rapport with high govt officials and

>politicians !!

>

>It is important for some forum to validate the veracity of such

>centres.the only way would be to examine the leaflets in a scientific

>way.

>

> , " Shashi Oak " <shashi_oak

>wrote:

> >

> > Dear bluerutas, and other Naadi lovers,

> > You have asked to me to comment about Thiru A Shiva swami of V

>Koil. Let me make it clear to all Naadi lovers that all Naadi readers

>and their centers are good. Whereever you find the leaf mentioning

>your exact details, please get it verified from the Tamil knowing

>persons that the names and other information is really there or not.

>Even if it is there the doubt still burks in the mind of the persons

>seeking the predictions for the first time. The quality of reading,

>interpretation, translation and Maharshees discretion or intention to

>tell specific or some incorrect informatoion deliberately are some of

>the intrigueing points make the man's opinion about Naadi in genral

>and center in perticular. Many have very good experience of a center

>whereas somwe feel cheated by the same center.

> > Therefore I leave it to one's own judgement.

> > Wg Cdr Shashikant Oak Pune

> >

> > On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 bluerutas wrote :

> > >Dear Sri Shashiji,

> > >

> > >What are yout comments about A.Sivasamy in V.Koil? Also, anyone

>else

> > >has any experiences with them?

> > >

> > >Thanks

> > >

> > > , " Shashi Oak " <shashi_oak@>

> > >wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Mgoelji,

> > > > As explained by swamiji, It could happen. In additoion the no of

> > >dots also change in two Naadies. It only refers to the packet.It

> > >could be explained by the research minded readers. Others may

> > >confuse the issue for nothing. Elderly reders whom we expect to

> > >answer they feel raged if we ask the explainations. Some young

> > >persons from the clan of the Naadi readers, if come forward then

> > >only some possibilities of logical answers could be obtained. Wg

>Cdr

> > >Oak Pune.

> > > > On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 ambi 33 wrote :

> > > > >Yes. I have the same experince in my field research. But the

>nadi

> > >astrologers answers me that In tamil,there is a chance for Multiple

> > >meanings for a single term. So the reka name may be diff. but in

>the

> > >same manner

> > > > >

> > > > > ex-- AADHI REKAI

> > > > > SUZHI REKAI

> > > > > VATTA REKAI

> > > > > MANI VATTA REKAI

> > > > > AATHIC CHAKKARA REKAI

> > > > >

> > > > > ABOVE ALL ARE THE SAME, SINGLE REKAS NAME. But there may be

>a

> > >subdivision also.

> > > > >

> > > > > rest in next

> > > > >

> > > > > swam

> > > > >

> > > > >mgoel1973 <mgoel1973@> wrote:

> > > > > Respected Sir,

> > > > >I am still searching for the answer .How a man can have two

> > >different

> > > > >classification of thumb impressions with same thumb at two nadi

> > > > >readers and both the nadi readers arrive at the same parent

>name

> > >etc.?

> > > > >regards

> > > > >

> > > > >In , " mgoel1973 " <mgoel1973@>

>wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Sirs,

> > > > > > As i already mentioned in my forwarded mail that the

>readings

> > >given

> > > > > > by two readers were different.

> > > > > > I have once again heard the cassetts given by them and found

> > >out

> > > > >that

> > > > > > the nomenclature of thumb impressions mentioned by them are

> > > > >different.

> > > > > > HOW it is possible that same thumb has two different

> > >impressions?

> > > > > > regards

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " mgoel1973 "

><mgoel1973@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Respected Members,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am new to this forum but I have visited two readers in

> > >Delhi

> > > > >last

> > > > > > > year.What I wish to state is that both gave different

> > > > > > > readings .Moreover please clarify that why the readings

>were

> > > > > > totally

> > > > > > > different and whom to believe.I visited both these people

>in

> > >span

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > one month or so ,so it can not be that my karmas between

> > >both the

> > > > > > > readings has changed my future.

> > > > > > > Can anyone give me the address of genuine reader in delhi.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I also consulted shanti and deeksha kandama with one

> > >reader.He

> > > > >told

> > > > > > me

> > > > > > > various poojas which I didnt do as I daily perform poojas

> > > > >otherwise.

> > > > > > > I want to know how giving finances for pooja to reader

>will

> > > > >change

> > > > > > your

> > > > > > > future.???? But Yes, I do agree that if you are doing good

> > >deeds

> > > > >in

> > > > > > > favour humanity then it can surely change your future.But

> > > > > > surprisingly

> > > > > > > nadi readers do not advise you to do social service /or

>good

> > > > >karmas

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > these kandams.So person can get everything if he finances

> > >these

> > > > > > poojas?

> > > > > > > Please enlighten me on this point also.

> > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

March 21, 2006

Welcome Karan, I posted the same question 3-4 weeks back and still waiting for a reply. Hope to hear from someone soon. msKaran <meeshusunita wrote: I am absolutely new to this forum and this field. Could you please explain what is 'yakshini vasiyam' ? Please pardon me for my absolute lack of knowledge. Thanks ! sanjeev2475 <sanjeev2475 wrote: Dear sri shashiji,I have seen naadi for me and a few of my relatives and friends in multiple places in chennai and

V.Koil from the popular names.But none of them come forward to give me the 'leaf'( my intention was exactly, as u said, verify these things by showing to a tamil knowing person). They say it is sacred etc. They dont even allow me to photograph or videograph it. They show it briefly though. The writings are very small and minute and some cases like scriblings, wonder how they manage to read it.!!Though many of the predictions seem to have come true., the doubt still lingers, on whether they really read the lead or use our DOB, to get the horoscope and follow astrological means. The doubt arises because, in some popular centers in V.koil daily they see for about 10-20 people newly( on the avg.) THey 've been doing this for several decades.If we do a simple calculation this runs into several lakhs of people. Do they really have individual leaflets for so many lakhs of people.How much time rishis would have spent to

write this. The entire bundles were said to be taken from chidambaram temple by Raja raja chola was fitted into a few vehicles to be transported to tanjore. One person who did lot of study in this field a few decades back told it is all 'yakshini vasiyam' in 90% of the places.There is a lot of money involved here, and one of the guys in V.koil, who gets the maximum number of clients daily, some of whom come from far off places and stay for days here, has been target of IT raids in the past.They have good rapport with high govt officials and politicians !!It is important for some forum to validate the veracity of such centres.the only way would be to examine the leaflets in a scientific way. , "Shashi Oak" <shashi_oak wrote:>> Dear bluerutas, and other Naadi lovers,> You have asked to me to comment about

Thiru A Shiva swami of V Koil. Let me make it clear to all Naadi lovers that all Naadi readers and their centers are good. Whereever you find the leaf mentioning your exact details, please get it verified from the Tamil knowing persons that the names and other information is really there or not. Even if it is there the doubt still burks in the mind of the persons seeking the predictions for the first time. The quality of reading, interpretation, translation and Maharshees discretion or intention to tell specific or some incorrect informatoion deliberately are some of the intrigueing points make the man's opinion about Naadi in genral and center in perticular. Many have very good experience of a center whereas somwe feel cheated by the same center.> Therefore I leave it to one's own judgement. > Wg Cdr Shashikant Oak Pune > > > On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 bluerutas wrote :>

>Dear Sri Shashiji,> >> >What are yout comments about A.Sivasamy in V.Koil? Also, anyone else> >has any experiences with them?> >> >Thanks> >> > , "Shashi Oak" <shashi_oak@>> >wrote:> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Mgoelji,> > > As explained by swamiji, It could happen. In additoion the no of> >dots also change in two Naadies. It only refers to the packet.It> >could be explained by the research minded readers. Others may> >confuse the issue for nothing. Elderly reders whom we expect to> >answer they feel raged if we ask the explainations. Some young> >persons from the clan of the Naadi readers, if come forward then> >only some possibilities of logical answers could be obtained. Wg Cdr> >Oak Pune.> > > On Wed, 15

Mar 2006 ambi 33 wrote :> > > >Yes. I have the same experince in my field research. But the nadi> >astrologers answers me that In tamil,there is a chance for Multiple> >meanings for a single term. So the reka name may be diff. but in the> >same manner> > > >> > > > ex-- AADHI REKAI> > > > SUZHI REKAI> > > > VATTA REKAI> > > > MANI VATTA REKAI> > > > AATHIC CHAKKARA REKAI> > > >> > > > ABOVE ALL ARE THE SAME, SINGLE REKAS NAME. But there may be a> >subdivision also.> > > >> > > > rest in next> > > >> > >

> swam> > > >> > > >mgoel1973 <mgoel1973@> wrote:> > > > Respected Sir,> > > >I am still searching for the answer .How a man can have two> >different> > > >classification of thumb impressions with same thumb at two nadi> > > >readers and both the nadi readers arrive at the same parent name> >etc.?> > > >regards> > > >> > > >In , "mgoel1973" <mgoel1973@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Sirs,> > > > > As i already mentioned in my forwarded mail that the readings> >given> > > > > by two readers were different.> > > > > I have once again heard the cassetts given by them and found> >out> > >

>that> > > > > the nomenclature of thumb impressions mentioned by them are> > > >different.> > > > > HOW it is possible that same thumb has two different> >impressions?> > > > > regards> > > > >> > > > > , "mgoel1973" <mgoel1973@>> > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Respected Members,> > > > > >> > > > > > I am new to this forum but I have visited two readers in> >Delhi> > > >last> > > > > > year.What I wish to state is that both gave different> > > > > > readings .Moreover please clarify that why the readings were> > > > > totally> > > > > > different and whom to believe.I visited both these

people in> >span> > > > > of> > > > > > one month or so ,so it can not be that my karmas between> >both the> > > > > > readings has changed my future.> > > > > > Can anyone give me the address of genuine reader in delhi.> > > > > >> > > > > > I also consulted shanti and deeksha kandama with one> >reader.He> > > >told> > > > > me> > > > > > various poojas which I didnt do as I daily perform poojas> > > >otherwise.> > > > > > I want to know how giving finances for pooja to reader will> > > >change> > > > > your> > > > > > future.???? But Yes, I do agree that if you are doing good> >deeds> > > >in> > > > > > favour humanity

then it can surely change your future.But> > > > > surprisingly> > > > > > nadi readers do not advise you to do social service /or good> > > >karmas> > > > > in> > > > > > these kandams.So person can get everything if he finances> >these> > > > > poojas?> > > > > > Please enlighten me on this point also.> > > > > > regards> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >

March 22, 2006

soon i will post by detail swammanjeet <manjit_si wrote: Welcome Karan, I posted the same question 3-4 weeks back and still waiting for a reply. Hope to hear from someone soon. msKaran <meeshusunita wrote: I am absolutely new to this forum and this field. Could you please explain what is 'yakshini vasiyam' ? Please pardon me for my absolute lack of knowledge. Thanks ! sanjeev2475 <sanjeev2475 wrote: Dear sri shashiji,I have seen naadi for me and a few of my relatives and friends in multiple places in chennai and V.Koil from the popular names.But none of them come forward to give me the 'leaf'( my intention was exactly, as u said, verify these things by showing to a tamil knowing person). They say it is sacred etc. They dont even allow me to photograph or videograph it. They show it briefly though. The writings are very small and minute and some cases like scriblings, wonder how they manage to read it.!!Though many of the predictions seem to have come true., the doubt still lingers, on whether they really read the lead or use our DOB, to get the horoscope and follow astrological means. The doubt arises because, in some popular centers in V.koil daily they see for about 10-20 people newly( on the avg.) THey 've been

doing this for several decades.If we do a simple calculation this runs into several lakhs of people. Do they really have individual leaflets for so many lakhs of people.How much time rishis would have spent to write this. The entire bundles were said to be taken from chidambaram temple by Raja raja chola was fitted into a few vehicles to be transported to tanjore. One person who did lot of study in this field a few decades back told it is all 'yakshini vasiyam' in 90% of the places.There is a lot of money involved here, and one of the guys in V.koil, who gets the maximum number of clients daily, some of whom come from far off places and stay for days here, has been target of IT raids in the past.They have good rapport with high govt officials and politicians !!It is important for some forum to validate the veracity of such centres.the only way would be to examine the leaflets in a scientific

way. , "Shashi Oak" <shashi_oak wrote:>> Dear bluerutas, and other Naadi lovers,> You have asked to me to comment about Thiru A Shiva swami of V Koil. Let me make it clear to all Naadi lovers that all Naadi readers and their centers are good. Whereever you find the leaf mentioning your exact details, please get it verified from the Tamil knowing persons that the names and other information is really there or not. Even if it is there the doubt still burks in the mind of the persons seeking the predictions for the first time. The quality of reading, interpretation, translation and Maharshees discretion or intention to tell specific or some incorrect informatoion deliberately are some of the intrigueing points make the man's opinion about Naadi in genral and center in perticular. Many have very good experience of a center

whereas somwe feel cheated by the same center.> Therefore I leave it to one's own judgement. > Wg Cdr Shashikant Oak Pune > > > On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 bluerutas wrote :> >Dear Sri Shashiji,> >> >What are yout comments about A.Sivasamy in V.Koil? Also, anyone else> >has any experiences with them?> >> >Thanks> >> > , "Shashi Oak" <shashi_oak@>> >wrote:> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Mgoelji,> > > As explained by swamiji, It could happen. In additoion the no of> >dots also change in two Naadies. It only refers to the packet.It> >could be explained by the research minded readers. Others may> >confuse the issue for nothing. Elderly reders whom we expect to> >answer they feel raged if we ask the

explainations. Some young> >persons from the clan of the Naadi readers, if come forward then> >only some possibilities of logical answers could be obtained. Wg Cdr> >Oak Pune.> > > On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 ambi 33 wrote :> > > >Yes. I have the same experince in my field research. But the nadi> >astrologers answers me that In tamil,there is a chance for Multiple> >meanings for a single term. So the reka name may be diff. but in the> >same manner> > > >> > > > ex-- AADHI REKAI> > > > SUZHI REKAI> > > > VATTA REKAI> > > > MANI VATTA REKAI> > > > AATHIC CHAKKARA REKAI> > > >> > >

> ABOVE ALL ARE THE SAME, SINGLE REKAS NAME. But there may be a> >subdivision also.> > > >> > > > rest in next> > > >> > > > swam> > > >> > > >mgoel1973 <mgoel1973@> wrote:> > > > Respected Sir,> > > >I am still searching for the answer .How a man can have two> >different> > > >classification of thumb impressions with same thumb at two nadi> > > >readers and both the nadi readers arrive at the same parent name> >etc.?> > > >regards> > > >> > > >In , "mgoel1973" <mgoel1973@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Sirs,> > > > > As i already mentioned in my forwarded mail

that the readings> >given> > > > > by two readers were different.> > > > > I have once again heard the cassetts given by them and found> >out> > > >that> > > > > the nomenclature of thumb impressions mentioned by them are> > > >different.> > > > > HOW it is possible that same thumb has two different> >impressions?> > > > > regards> > > > >> > > > > , "mgoel1973" <mgoel1973@>> > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Respected Members,> > > > > >> > > > > > I am new to this forum but I have visited two readers in> >Delhi> > > >last> > > > > > year.What I wish to state is that both gave

different> > > > > > readings .Moreover please clarify that why the readings were> > > > > totally> > > > > > different and whom to believe.I visited both these people in> >span> > > > > of> > > > > > one month or so ,so it can not be that my karmas between> >both the> > > > > > readings has changed my future.> > > > > > Can anyone give me the address of genuine reader in delhi.> > > > > >> > > > > > I also consulted shanti and deeksha kandama with one> >reader.He> > > >told> > > > > me> > > > > > various poojas which I didnt do as I daily perform poojas> > > >otherwise.> > > > > > I want to know how giving finances for pooja to reader will> > >

>change> > > > > your> > > > > > future.???? But Yes, I do agree that if you are doing good> >deeds> > > >in> > > > > > favour humanity then it can surely change your future.But> > > > > surprisingly> > > > > > nadi readers do not advise you to do social service /or good> > > >karmas> > > > > in> > > > > > these kandams.So person can get everything if he finances> >these> > > > > poojas?> > > > > > Please enlighten me on this point also.> > > > > > regards> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >

>> > > >

March 22, 2006

I dont know what is exactly 'yakshini vasiyam', but one person who

did some R & D into this a few decades back told me this.

There are mantras nad poojas done to make some devatas

like 'yakshini' co-operate with u( this has roots in kerala some

say), so that if a person comes to u asking for predictions, u can

tell his past, his present problem, name, family situation etc using

the devata. Most naadi readers use such yashini devatas to get the

initial family, DOB info. from clients and then use the horoscope

casted out of the DOB to predict the future. Ultimatly it boils down

to astrology.

I dont know how far this is true but a lot of people who know naadi

readers say this is true to a certain extent.

There seem to be few genuine readers who have leafs for only a few

people. Even the best of readers may have only a few thousand

leafs.but they are practising for decades , how ?

The genuine readers share the leafs with their clients, one of my

grandfathers has his naadi leaf in original given to him 50 yrs back

when he saw naadi. But now, NONE of the naadi readers will give your

leafs to you, or even allow photography of the leafs,saying it is

sacred, bcos I think they are scared that their game will come out.

The leaflets now in Vaitheeswaran koil and other places in the south

are said to have been recovered by king Raja raja chola from

chidambaram temple in 10 century and brought to tanjore along with

other 'thevaram' and tamil literature leaflets.All those leaflets

were in a single room in chidambaram temple. So how much could hae

been there, and how can it cater to so many people for so many years.

Liek someone said earlier in this group, the readers ask so many

questions like the 'n' th letter of ur parents name, the range of

days/date of your birth etc. Its only in the final leaf that they

spell out the actual parents name, DOB. How come none of the leafs

beofre that dont have this, and have criptic things like the info. of

hte 'N'th letter of ur parents name.

, manjeet <manjit_si wrote:

>

> Welcome Karan,

>

> I posted the same question 3-4 weeks back and still waiting for a

reply. Hope to hear from someone soon.

>

> ms

>

> Karan <meeshusunita wrote:

> I am absolutely new to this forum and this field. Could you

please explain what is 'yakshini vasiyam' ? Please pardon me for my

absolute lack of knowledge.

>

> Thanks !

>

> sanjeev2475 <sanjeev2475 wrote:

> Dear sri shashiji,

> I have seen naadi for me and a few of my relatives and friends in

> multiple places in chennai and V.Koil from the popular names.

> But none of them come forward to give me the 'leaf'( my intention

was

> exactly, as u said, verify these things by showing to a tamil

knowing

> person). They say it is sacred etc. They dont even allow me to

> photograph or videograph it. They show it briefly though. The

> writings are very small and minute and some cases like scriblings,

> wonder how they manage to read it.!!

>

> Though many of the predictions seem to have come true., the doubt

> still lingers, on whether they really read the lead or use our DOB,

> to get the horoscope and follow astrological means.

>

> The doubt arises because, in some popular centers in V.koil daily

> they see for about 10-20 people newly( on the avg.) THey 've been

> doing this for several decades.If we do a simple calculation this

> runs into several lakhs of people. Do they really have individual

> leaflets for so many lakhs of people.How much time rishis would

have

> spent to write this. The entire bundles were said to be taken from

> chidambaram temple by Raja raja chola was fitted into a few

vehicles

> to be transported to tanjore.

>

> One person who did lot of study in this field a few decades back

told

> it is all 'yakshini vasiyam' in 90% of the places.

>

> There is a lot of money involved here, and one of the guys in

V.koil,

> who gets the maximum number of clients daily, some of whom come

from

> far off places and stay for days here, has been target of IT raids

> in the past.They have good rapport with high govt officials and

> politicians !!

>

> It is important for some forum to validate the veracity of such

> centres.the only way would be to examine the leaflets in a

scientific

> way.

>

> , " Shashi Oak " <shashi_oak@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear bluerutas, and other Naadi lovers,

> > You have asked to me to comment about Thiru A Shiva swami of V

> Koil. Let me make it clear to all Naadi lovers that all Naadi

readers

> and their centers are good. Whereever you find the leaf mentioning

> your exact details, please get it verified from the Tamil knowing

> persons that the names and other information is really there or

not.

> Even if it is there the doubt still burks in the mind of the

persons

> seeking the predictions for the first time. The quality of reading,

> interpretation, translation and Maharshees discretion or intention

to

> tell specific or some incorrect informatoion deliberately are some

of

> the intrigueing points make the man's opinion about Naadi in genral

> and center in perticular. Many have very good experience of a

center

> whereas somwe feel cheated by the same center.

> > Therefore I leave it to one's own judgement.

> > Wg Cdr Shashikant Oak Pune

> >

> > On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 bluerutas wrote :

> > >Dear Sri Shashiji,

> > >

> > >What are yout comments about A.Sivasamy in V.Koil? Also, anyone

> else

> > >has any experiences with them?

> > >

> > >Thanks

> > >

> > > , " Shashi Oak " <shashi_oak@>

> > >wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Mgoelji,

> > > > As explained by swamiji, It could happen. In additoion the no

of

> > >dots also change in two Naadies. It only refers to the packet.It

> > >could be explained by the research minded readers. Others may

> > >confuse the issue for nothing. Elderly reders whom we expect to

> > >answer they feel raged if we ask the explainations. Some young

> > >persons from the clan of the Naadi readers, if come forward then

> > >only some possibilities of logical answers could be obtained. Wg

> Cdr

> > >Oak Pune.

> > > > On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 ambi 33 wrote :

> > > > >Yes. I have the same experince in my field research. But the

> nadi

> > >astrologers answers me that In tamil,there is a chance for

Multiple

> > >meanings for a single term. So the reka name may be diff. but in

> the

> > >same manner

> > > > >

> > > > > ex-- AADHI REKAI

> > > > > SUZHI REKAI

> > > > > VATTA REKAI

> > > > > MANI VATTA REKAI

> > > > > AATHIC CHAKKARA REKAI

> > > > >

> > > > > ABOVE ALL ARE THE SAME, SINGLE REKAS NAME. But there may

be

> a

> > >subdivision also.

> > > > >

> > > > > rest in next

> > > > >

> > > > > swam

> > > > >

> > > > >mgoel1973 <mgoel1973@> wrote:

> > > > > Respected Sir,

> > > > >I am still searching for the answer .How a man can have two

> > >different

> > > > >classification of thumb impressions with same thumb at two

nadi

> > > > >readers and both the nadi readers arrive at the same parent

> name

> > >etc.?

> > > > >regards

> > > > >

> > > > >In , " mgoel1973 " <mgoel1973@>

> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Sirs,

> > > > > > As i already mentioned in my forwarded mail that the

> readings

> > >given

> > > > > > by two readers were different.

> > > > > > I have once again heard the cassetts given by them and

found

> > >out

> > > > >that

> > > > > > the nomenclature of thumb impressions mentioned by them

are

> > > > >different.

> > > > > > HOW it is possible that same thumb has two different

> > >impressions?

> > > > > > regards

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " mgoel1973 "

> <mgoel1973@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Respected Members,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am new to this forum but I have visited two readers in

> > >Delhi

> > > > >last

> > > > > > > year.What I wish to state is that both gave different

> > > > > > > readings .Moreover please clarify that why the readings

> were

> > > > > > totally

> > > > > > > different and whom to believe.I visited both these

people

> in

> > >span

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > one month or so ,so it can not be that my karmas between

> > >both the

> > > > > > > readings has changed my future.

> > > > > > > Can anyone give me the address of genuine reader in

delhi.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I also consulted shanti and deeksha kandama with one

> > >reader.He

> > > > >told

> > > > > > me

> > > > > > > various poojas which I didnt do as I daily perform

poojas

> > > > >otherwise.

> > > > > > > I want to know how giving finances for pooja to reader

> will

> > > > >change

> > > > > > your

> > > > > > > future.???? But Yes, I do agree that if you are doing

good

> > >deeds

> > > > >in

> > > > > > > favour humanity then it can surely change your

future.But

> > > > > > surprisingly

> > > > > > > nadi readers do not advise you to do social service /or

> good

> > > > >karmas

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > these kandams.So person can get everything if he

finances

> > >these

> > > > > > poojas?

> > > > > > > Please enlighten me on this point also.

> > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

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