past prediction 100%correct, future predictions equaly wrong why?

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resp sir, i m a resident of Indore, where I visited a naadi

astrologist, couple of years back. My thumb impression were taken and

accordingly predictions were made, which was recorded on a cassate.To

my surperise all past events including the initials of my parents and

closed relatives were quoted correctly but predictions about future

events was super flop.I had also performed a shanti pooja, as

suggested by them but nothing worthwhile was achieved. Same was the

experience of couple of my friends.Please , I M no where putting a

question mark on authentisity of naadi astrology ,instead, I want to

know,what went wrong with astrologer, that he was very true regarding

past predictions,but equaly wrong with future.I request you to please

take it in right perspective and enlighten me accordingly.thanking

you , with warm regerds, yours sincerely...SANJAY B. JADE

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Dear Shri.Sanjay,

 

I will try to explain it based on my experience with my clients. I am not a nadi astrologer. I am a vedic astrologer with a good knowledge of ancient tamil. Actually classical tamil is very difficult to translate with the correct import just as in the case of any classical language like Latin and Sanskrit. It requires an intelligence of a higher sort which, in my experience, I have found highly lacking in the uneducated or semi-educated nadi readers. The nadi predictions about names or certain important past events are verbatim and so they have no trouble about deciphering them...But, when it comes to the future, the predictions of the rishis are in cryptic language which requires deployment of intelligent reasoning and astrological codes which many of them are not conversant with! I will quote just one example. For one of my clients the nadi said " When King catches Lute you will get married " . Now Lute is a stringed instrument like the Veena. Lute is a code word for the rasi Mithuna and also for the asterism Mrigasira. King means Jupiter. Anyone with a deep astrological knowledge knows that when certain sensitive points are there are in the horoscope, they activate sensitive points that are 120 degrees away from them also (trines). Now Jupiter last transited Mithuna in the year 2001/2002. The reading was given in the year 2003. So, the nadi reader said that the native will get married ONLY after 11 years when Jupiter transits Gemini! But by that time, the native would have become 38 years old. But, when the nadi verse was brought to me, I could apply the logic I have mentioned before (trines also getting activated) and said that the marriage will take place when Jupiter transits Libra (trine to Gemini) and it actually materialized! So, you see this is how certain aberrations set in future predictions as read by the nadi readers. In fact many of my clients bring the original classical tamil verses to me to get clarifications after getting their nadis read from nadi astrologers, though I charge more than those readers for my clarification on that verses! I am not blaming all of them. Infact, there are some very brilliant readers also. But, they are mostly concentrated in Vaideeswaran Koil, Chennai, or more recently in Delhi only. The readers in other small centers are not in the same league!

 

Another thing to be mentioned is that even if the interpretation of the nadi is correct as given in the leaves, it so happens that certain events do not come to pass as said in the leaves. May be it is because fate is dynamic. The nadi prediction gives the course of likely events based on your karma as on the date of giving the reading. We may perform certain meritorious deeds and change the evil karma; or conversely, we may err and add to our burden. IN either case, karmic effects change, and so the predictions of the distant future may also differ slightly.

 

Besides, what you are normally read is from the normal nadi. There are special nadis like sookshama nadi, thulliya nadi which go in to the minute details. The accuracy of these nadis have been found to be amazing even with regard to the future. But cost of consulting these are usually prohibitive.

 

I do not know how much you paid actually. Usually for a normal nadi, these people charge 200 to 350 rupees for the General kandam, and then 150 to 200 rupees per specialized kandam. In the case of specialized nadis like thulliya nadis or maha thulliya nadis, the charge may be 1000 for the general kandam, and then also 500 to 1000 per kandam (aspect of life). These will not be in the possession of everyone. ONly a handful of nadi astrologer families are in possession of them. Also, there is the case of quacks as in any other profession.

 

Another point is that these classics were written by sages whose main concern was spirituality and upliftment of the souls. So, they would have concentrated more on destruction of karma rather than on predicting materialistic accomplishments. To impress you to perform the shanti karmas for reducing your karmic burden, they would have written the past events as on date of consultation accurately. As for the future the siddhas are reknown for their impish sense of humour. They may even mislead you into believing something so that you take a particular course of action which will drag you into various problems! Their purpose is that your karma should be extinguished by facing the problems. If they predict that you are likely to experience these problems by taking this course of action, you would avoid it. Their intention is to let you face your karma without serious damage to yourself!

 

Of course, all these are my conjenctures because though I am in this field and am myself a first party to various miraculous events, I am yet to gain insight into how these nadis work!

 

Blessed be.

On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 sanjaybjade wrote :

>resp sir, i m a resident of Indore, where I visited a naadi

>astrologist, couple of years back. My thumb impression were taken and

>accordingly predictions were made, which was recorded on a cassate.To

>my surperise all past events including the initials of my parents and

>closed relatives were quoted correctly but predictions about future

>events was super flop.I had also performed a shanti pooja, as

>suggested by them but nothing worthwhile was achieved. Same was the

>experience of couple of my friends.Please , I M no where putting a

>question mark on authentisity of naadi astrology ,instead, I want to

>know,what went wrong with astrologer, that he was very true regarding

>past predictions,but equaly wrong with future.I request you to please

>take it in right perspective and enlighten me accordingly.thanking

>you , with warm regerds, yours sincerely...SANJAY B. JADE

>

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Vidhyaji, very well written. I have read something similar-Nostradamus had written about twin brothers being attacked by ball of fire from the sky in New City of York. The intepretation given was that there will be twin brothers politicians etc. and it turned out to be twin towers of world trade center and ball of fire was the plane... where and how can we consult you ma'm? I live in ahmedabad. br asha"Vidya Bachaspati. R.Dakshinamoorthi " <dakshinastrologer wrote: Dear Shri.Sanjay,I will try to explain it based on my experience with my clients. I am not a nadi astrologer. I am a vedic astrologer with a good knowledge of ancient tamil. Actually classical tamil is very difficult to translate with the correct import

just as in the case of any classical language like Latin and Sanskrit. It requires an intelligence of a higher sort which, in my experience, I have found highly lacking in the uneducated or semi-educated nadi readers. The nadi predictions about names or certain important past events are verbatim and so they have no trouble about deciphering them...But, when it comes to the future, the predictions of the rishis are in cryptic language which requires deployment of intelligent reasoning and astrological codes which many of them are not conversant with! I will quote just one example. For one of my clients the nadi said "When King catches Lute you will get married". Now Lute is a stringed instrument like the Veena. Lute is a code word for the rasi Mithuna and also for the asterism Mrigasira. King means Jupiter. Anyone with a deep astrological knowledge knows that when certain sensitive points are there are in the horoscope, they activate

sensitive points that are 120 degrees away from them also (trines). Now Jupiter last transited Mithuna in the year 2001/2002. The reading was given in the year 2003. So, the nadi reader said that the native will get married ONLY after 11 years when Jupiter transits Gemini! But by that time, the native would have become 38 years old. But, when the nadi verse was brought to me, I could apply the logic I have mentioned before (trines also getting activated) and said that the marriage will take place when Jupiter transits Libra (trine to Gemini) and it actually materialized! So, you see this is how certain aberrations set in future predictions as read by the nadi readers. In fact many of my clients bring the original classical tamil verses to me to get clarifications after getting their nadis read from nadi astrologers, though I charge more than those readers for my clarification on that verses! I am not blaming all of them. Infact, there

are some very brilliant readers also. But, they are mostly concentrated in Vaideeswaran Koil, Chennai, or more recently in Delhi only. The readers in other small centers are not in the same league!Another thing to be mentioned is that even if the interpretation of the nadi is correct as given in the leaves, it so happens that certain events do not come to pass as said in the leaves. May be it is because fate is dynamic. The nadi prediction gives the course of likely events based on your karma as on the date of giving the reading. We may perform certain meritorious deeds and change the evil karma; or conversely, we may err and add to our burden. IN either case, karmic effects change, and so the predictions of the distant future may also differ slightly.Besides, what you are normally read is from the normal nadi. There are special nadis like sookshama nadi, thulliya nadi which go in to the minute details. The accuracy of

these nadis have been found to be amazing even with regard to the future. But cost of consulting these are usually prohibitive.I do not know how much you paid actually. Usually for a normal nadi, these people charge 200 to 350 rupees for the General kandam, and then 150 to 200 rupees per specialized kandam. In the case of specialized nadis like thulliya nadis or maha thulliya nadis, the charge may be 1000 for the general kandam, and then also 500 to 1000 per kandam (aspect of life). These will not be in the possession of everyone. ONly a handful of nadi astrologer families are in possession of them. Also, there is the case of quacks as in any other profession.Another point is that these classics were written by sages whose main concern was spirituality and upliftment of the souls. So, they would have concentrated more on destruction of karma rather than on predicting materialistic accomplishments. To impress you to

perform the shanti karmas for reducing your karmic burden, they would have written the past events as on date of consultation accurately. As for the future the siddhas are reknown for their impish sense of humour. They may even mislead you into believing something so that you take a particular course of action which will drag you into various problems! Their purpose is that your karma should be extinguished by facing the problems. If they predict that you are likely to experience these problems by taking this course of action, you would avoid it. Their intention is to let you face your karma without serious damage to yourself!Of course, all these are my conjenctures because though I am in this field and am myself a first party to various miraculous events, I am yet to gain insight into how these nadis work!Blessed be.On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 sanjaybjade wrote :>resp sir, i m a resident of Indore, where I visited a

naadi>astrologist, couple of years back. My thumb impression were taken and>accordingly predictions were made, which was recorded on a cassate.To>my surperise all past events including the initials of my parents and>closed relatives were quoted correctly but predictions about future>events was super flop.I had also performed a shanti pooja, as>suggested by them but nothing worthwhile was achieved. Same was the>experience of couple of my friends.Please , I M no where putting a>question mark on authentisity of naadi astrology ,instead, I want to>know,what went wrong with astrologer, that he was very true regarding>past predictions,but equaly wrong with future.I request you to please>take it in right perspective and enlighten me accordingly.thanking>you , with warm regerds, yours sincerely...SANJAY B. JADE>

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Dear Shrimati.Asha,

 

Actually " Vidya Bachaspati " is a vedic title conferred on me in the 23rd International Astrological Conference held in 2000 at Calcutta.

My name is R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI (or Pandit.R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI as people address me!)- an astrological consultant based in Chennai. If possible, you can visit my office cum residence at Chennai for consultation. You can have consultations with me through email also. Besides astrology, I also perform regular remedial havans and poojas for people including monthly special poojas on Full Moon days in honour of Goddess Lalitha Tirupurasundari or special poojas on birth star for people on payment of a nominal offering. I perform these worship schemes personally as these are based on a unique system as instructed in my tradition. If interested in availing any of my services, you may please express your interest by email.

 

Thanks for your enquiry and comments.

 

Blessed be.

 

 

On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 Asha Kamath wrote :

>Vidhyaji, very well written. I have read something similar-Nostradamus had written about twin brothers being attacked by ball of fire from the sky in New City of York.

> The intepretation given was that there will be twin brothers politicians etc. and it turned out to be twin towers of world trade center and ball of fire was the plane...

>

> where and how can we consult you ma'm?

> I live in ahmedabad.

> br

> asha

>

> " Vidya Bachaspati. R.Dakshinamoorthi " <dakshinastrologer wrote:

>

>

>Dear Shri.Sanjay,

>

>I will try to explain it based on my experience with my clients. I am not a nadi astrologer. I am a vedic astrologer with a good knowledge of ancient tamil. Actually classical tamil is very difficult to translate with the correct import just as in the case of any classical language like Latin and Sanskrit. It requires an intelligence of a higher sort which, in my experience, I have found highly lacking in the uneducated or semi-educated nadi readers. The nadi predictions about names or certain important past events are verbatim and so they have no trouble about deciphering them...But, when it comes to the future, the predictions of the rishis are in cryptic language which requires deployment of intelligent reasoning and astrological codes which many of them are not conversant with! I will quote just one example. For one of my clients the nadi said " When King catches Lute you will get married " . Now Lute is a stringed instrument like the Veena. Lute is a code word for the rasi

> Mithuna and also for the asterism Mrigasira. King means Jupiter. Anyone with a deep astrological knowledge knows that when certain sensitive points are there are in the horoscope, they activate sensitive points that are 120 degrees away from them also (trines). Now Jupiter last transited Mithuna in the year 2001/2002. The reading was given in the year 2003. So, the nadi reader said that the native will get married ONLY after 11 years when Jupiter transits Gemini! But by that time, the native would have become 38 years old. But, when the nadi verse was brought to me, I could apply the logic I have mentioned before (trines also getting activated) and said that the marriage will take place when Jupiter transits Libra (trine to Gemini) and it actually materialized! So, you see this is how certain aberrations set in future predictions as read by the nadi readers. In fact many of my clients bring the original classical tamil verses to me to get clarifications after getting their

> nadis read from nadi astrologers, though I charge more than those readers for my clarification on that verses! I am not blaming all of them. Infact, there are some very brilliant readers also. But, they are mostly concentrated in Vaideeswaran Koil, Chennai, or more recently in Delhi only. The readers in other small centers are not in the same league!

>

>Another thing to be mentioned is that even if the interpretation of the nadi is correct as given in the leaves, it so happens that certain events do not come to pass as said in the leaves. May be it is because fate is dynamic. The nadi prediction gives the course of likely events based on your karma as on the date of giving the reading. We may perform certain meritorious deeds and change the evil karma; or conversely, we may err and add to our burden. IN either case, karmic effects change, and so the predictions of the distant future may also differ slightly.

>

>Besides, what you are normally read is from the normal nadi. There are special nadis like sookshama nadi, thulliya nadi which go in to the minute details. The accuracy of these nadis have been found to be amazing even with regard to the future. But cost of consulting these are usually prohibitive.

>

>I do not know how much you paid actually. Usually for a normal nadi, these people charge 200 to 350 rupees for the General kandam, and then 150 to 200 rupees per specialized kandam. In the case of specialized nadis like thulliya nadis or maha thulliya nadis, the charge may be 1000 for the general kandam, and then also 500 to 1000 per kandam (aspect of life). These will not be in the possession of everyone. ONly a handful of nadi astrologer families are in possession of them. Also, there is the case of quacks as in any other profession.

>

>Another point is that these classics were written by sages whose main concern was spirituality and upliftment of the souls. So, they would have concentrated more on destruction of karma rather than on predicting materialistic accomplishments. To impress you to perform the shanti karmas for reducing your karmic burden, they would have written the past events as on date of consultation accurately. As for the future the siddhas are reknown for their impish sense of humour. They may even mislead you into believing something so that you take a particular course of action which will drag you into various problems! Their purpose is that your karma should be extinguished by facing the problems. If they predict that you are likely to experience these problems by taking this course of action, you would avoid it. Their intention is to let you face your karma without serious damage to yourself!

>

>Of course, all these are my conjenctures because though I am in this field and am myself a first party to various miraculous events, I am yet to gain insight into how these nadis work!

>

>Blessed be.

>On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 sanjaybjade wrote :

> >resp sir, i m a resident of Indore, where I visited a naadi

> >astrologist, couple of years back. My thumb impression were taken and

> >accordingly predictions were made, which was recorded on a cassate.To

> >my surperise all past events including the initials of my parents and

> >closed relatives were quoted correctly but predictions about future

> >events was super flop.I had also performed a shanti pooja, as

> >suggested by them but nothing worthwhile was achieved. Same was the

> >experience of couple of my friends.Please , I M no where putting a

> >question mark on authentisity of naadi astrology ,instead, I want to

> >know,what went wrong with astrologer, that he was very true regarding

> >past predictions,but equaly wrong with future.I request you to please

> >take it in right perspective and enlighten me accordingly.thanking

> >you , with warm regerds, yours sincerely...SANJAY B. JADE

> >

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Dear List, I have had occassion to compare Nadi reading with Natal reading both into past and future. While past was astounding, as to the future I found quite a bit of conguence between what I would forecast based on KP and Vedic astrology, and what the Nadi said. Ofcourse there was a difference in depth of effect. Both my predictions and the Nadi predictions are on test now! Seshadri"Vidya Bachaspati. R.Dakshinamoorthi " <dakshinastrologer wrote: Dear Shri.Sanjay,I will try to explain it based on my experience with my clients. I am not a nadi astrologer. I am a vedic astrologer with a good knowledge of ancient tamil. Actually classical tamil is very difficult to translate with the correct import just as in the case of any classical language like Latin and

Sanskrit. It requires an intelligence of a higher sort which, in my experience, I have found highly lacking in the uneducated or semi-educated nadi readers. The nadi predictions about names or certain important past events are verbatim and so they have no trouble about deciphering them...But, when it comes to the future, the predictions of the rishis are in cryptic language which requires deployment of intelligent reasoning and astrological codes which many of them are not conversant with! I will quote just one example. For one of my clients the nadi said "When King catches Lute you will get married". Now Lute is a stringed instrument like the Veena. Lute is a code word for the rasi Mithuna and also for the asterism Mrigasira. King means Jupiter. Anyone with a deep astrological knowledge knows that when certain sensitive points are there are in the horoscope, they activate sensitive points that are 120 degrees away from them also

(trines). Now Jupiter last transited Mithuna in the year 2001/2002. The reading was given in the year 2003. So, the nadi reader said that the native will get married ONLY after 11 years when Jupiter transits Gemini! But by that time, the native would have become 38 years old. But, when the nadi verse was brought to me, I could apply the logic I have mentioned before (trines also getting activated) and said that the marriage will take place when Jupiter transits Libra (trine to Gemini) and it actually materialized! So, you see this is how certain aberrations set in future predictions as read by the nadi readers. In fact many of my clients bring the original classical tamil verses to me to get clarifications after getting their nadis read from nadi astrologers, though I charge more than those readers for my clarification on that verses! I am not blaming all of them. Infact, there are some very brilliant readers also. But, they are

mostly concentrated in Vaideeswaran Koil, Chennai, or more recently in Delhi only. The readers in other small centers are not in the same league!Another thing to be mentioned is that even if the interpretation of the nadi is correct as given in the leaves, it so happens that certain events do not come to pass as said in the leaves. May be it is because fate is dynamic. The nadi prediction gives the course of likely events based on your karma as on the date of giving the reading. We may perform certain meritorious deeds and change the evil karma; or conversely, we may err and add to our burden. IN either case, karmic effects change, and so the predictions of the distant future may also differ slightly.Besides, what you are normally read is from the normal nadi. There are special nadis like sookshama nadi, thulliya nadi which go in to the minute details. The accuracy of these nadis have been found to be amazing even with regard

to the future. But cost of consulting these are usually prohibitive.I do not know how much you paid actually. Usually for a normal nadi, these people charge 200 to 350 rupees for the General kandam, and then 150 to 200 rupees per specialized kandam. In the case of specialized nadis like thulliya nadis or maha thulliya nadis, the charge may be 1000 for the general kandam, and then also 500 to 1000 per kandam (aspect of life). These will not be in the possession of everyone. ONly a handful of nadi astrologer families are in possession of them. Also, there is the case of quacks as in any other profession.Another point is that these classics were written by sages whose main concern was spirituality and upliftment of the souls. So, they would have concentrated more on destruction of karma rather than on predicting materialistic accomplishments. To impress you to perform the shanti karmas for reducing your karmic burden, they

would have written the past events as on date of consultation accurately. As for the future the siddhas are reknown for their impish sense of humour. They may even mislead you into believing something so that you take a particular course of action which will drag you into various problems! Their purpose is that your karma should be extinguished by facing the problems. If they predict that you are likely to experience these problems by taking this course of action, you would avoid it. Their intention is to let you face your karma without serious damage to yourself!Of course, all these are my conjenctures because though I am in this field and am myself a first party to various miraculous events, I am yet to gain insight into how these nadis work!Blessed be.On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 sanjaybjade wrote :>resp sir, i m a resident of Indore, where I visited a naadi>astrologist, couple of years back. My thumb impression were taken

and>accordingly predictions were made, which was recorded on a cassate.To>my surperise all past events including the initials of my parents and>closed relatives were quoted correctly but predictions about future>events was super flop.I had also performed a shanti pooja, as>suggested by them but nothing worthwhile was achieved. Same was the>experience of couple of my friends.Please , I M no where putting a>question mark on authentisity of naadi astrology ,instead, I want to>know,what went wrong with astrologer, that he was very true regarding>past predictions,but equaly wrong with future.I request you to please>take it in right perspective and enlighten me accordingly.thanking>you , with warm regerds, yours sincerely...SANJAY B. JADE>

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Dear Sanjay, I am a Nadi enthuasist based at Nasik. I keep coming to Indore. Could you please tell me the addressa dn phone of Indore Nadi Reader. Regards! Madhavendra Singhsanjaybjade <sanjaybjade wrote: resp sir, i m a resident of Indore, where I visited a naadi astrologist, couple of years back. My thumb impression were taken and accordingly predictions were made, which was recorded on a cassate.To my surperise all past events including the initials of my parents and closed relatives were quoted correctly but predictions about future events was super flop.I had also performed a shanti pooja, as suggested by them but nothing worthwhile was achieved. Same was the experience of couple of my friends.Please , I M no where putting a question mark on authentisity of

naadi astrology ,instead, I want to know,what went wrong with astrologer, that he was very true regarding past predictions,but equaly wrong with future.I request you to please take it in right perspective and enlighten me accordingly.thanking you , with warm regerds, yours sincerely...SANJAY B. JADE