Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 Dear Rajeev ji, 1) In KP we consider like this : if we are looking for 6th CSL, for example 6th CSL is A. A is in the star of B and in the sub of C. what you have done in this example is A=Sun, B= Sun and C = Moon. this is KP , but you go ahead one step and consider D=Rah. there is no room for D in KP, may be you have done as per 4 step, but my analysis is as per KP, and KP don't consider D. 2) If you consider as per KP opponent 6th CSL is Retro and in the retro star so not need to check further and we can say no chance for opponent, but i do not consider retro effect. If you look by KP way it is not clear cut case, please check again. 3) why i need to add this? because most of time we failed in competition chart, some don't believe in short cut in astrology, and some don't believe in TSP, so i try to find out some way which gives us good result and acceptable to all. as i mention in my mail, please try by this way and check what result come, and inform me to improve this method.this is new idea and we need to check many more. I will try to post some more competition chart in group to improve this idea.and memebr also try with this idea. Regards Kanak Bosmia Rajeev K Khattar <lalkitab wrote: Dear Kanak Bhai, I appreciate your attempt to include sign properties also in the analysis but many times we see that one who wins the competition is not necessarily the better competent also. As per my thinking there is no confusion. 6th CSL is sun, in own star and in Moon sub. What matter it will signify ? It will signify the cusps occupied n owned by it's star lord. It's star lord is sun .. Sun is in 8 and owns 5th cusp ... so matter is of competition and anxity Final result will be given by it's sub lord Moon. Moon ( any planet ) signifies the cusps occupied n owned by it's star lord. star lord of moon is Rahu. Rahu is placed in 10th cusp and is in the sign of saturn..hence represents saturn.Saturn is placed in 4th and owns 10 and 11. Presence of cusp 11 and absence of 5 and 12 indicates success to native ( sachin ) Let's analyse from opponent's point of view also. 12th CSL is Mars. Mars is in star of Mars and in sub of Ketu. Ketu in Leo sign represents Sun (owns 5 and placed in 8 ) and signifies the cusps occupied n owned by it's star lord Ketu ( in 4,owns none ). Presence of 5 and absence of 6 and 11 shows opponent will lose the competition. In my opinion clearly Sachin will win. Kindly do inform the result in the group as I dont get Sahara channel in my house. Regards Rajeev K Khattar l , " l_mod " <meetdoctorrahul wrote: > > > Dear Kanakji, > Yes, There is mixture of results by the 6th and 12 th sublord > indicating both the positive outcome of the querent. > The idea to use the 5th sublord is good but for a competition i > think the 5th sublord should strongly signify 6 and or 11 to win the > competition. ( this is my thinking and is just a suggestion ) > > the 5th sublord is mangal > > PLANET : MARS > Itself :-------------- Mars:- (1) 7 (12) Cusp Yuti: (2) > It's N.Swami :-------- Mars:- (1) 7 (12) Cusp Yuti: (2) > It's Sub :------------ Ketu:- (4) Rashi-Swami Sun (8) (5) > Jupiter-Drusht (8) 8 > It's Sub's N.Swami :-- Ketu:- (4) Rashi-Swami Sun (8) (5) > Jupiter-Drusht (8) 8 > Itself aspects :------ 8 5 9 > > NOTE : ( ) are strong significator bhavas. > > I agree with your retro planet concept. I have also experienced such > examples. As Gondhalekar sir has said, the retro concept works only > in the transit stage of prediction. ( please correct me if i am > wrong ) > Lets keep our fingers crossed and wait for the result. > Thank you for discussing this. > > dr. rahul. > > > l , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > wrote: > > > > Dear All, > > > > Please take my bellow example as an educative way; this is my > thinking with new Idea, maybe I am wrong in this prediction, but > definitely it will open some new way of analysis of competitions > chart. I request everyone to write his/her opinion on my analysis. > > > > My daughter is very eager to know will Sachil win in Jjhoom > India singing competition. She asked me question " Will Sachin Win > Jjhoom India singing Competition on 18th Jan 2008? " > > > > She gave me number 30, I cast Horary chart on 12 January 2008 > at 22.09.55 L.G. Hospital - Ahmedabad 23 N 00, 72 E 36. > > > > In this chart 6th Sub lord is Sun in own star and Moon sub. Sun > is in 9 lord 5 (Opponent 11), sub lord Moon is in 10 lord of 3, > 4.This sub lord don't signifies 6 and 11. > > > > 11th Sl is Ven in Mer start and Sun sub. Ven is in 7 lord of 1, > 6. Mer is in 9 lord of 2. Sun is in 9 lord 5 (Opponent 11). > > > > So 6th and 11th Sl show us both 6 good for himself and 5th good > for opponent. By this both Sub lord we can't come to any conclusion > Clearly. > > > > New we check opponent's view by rotated chart 7th as a lagna. > > > > 6th and 11th sub lord Mar (Retro) in the star of Own and sub of > Ket. Mar (retro) is in 7 lord of 1, 6. Ket is in 10 conj with Sat > and Aspected by Jup. Sat is in 10 lord of 3, 4, 5 (Opponent 11), Jup > is in 2 lord 2 No planet in the star of Jup and Jup is sub lord of > 4, 10. This sublord also indicates both 6 and 5 (Opponent 11). > > > > Here I want to clear one point; I never consider retro plant in > my horary (Or any) analysis. What we look retro planet is actually > not retro, only we feel as a retro. I personally like this argument > of Dr.Kar and farther I do, not check retro cancellation of Dr.Kar , > and take planet as a planet even retro. I don't want to say every > one believes on my thinking but I strongly request all to check > without retro effect and inform me result. > > > > We use rule same even any kind of Competition, if it is cricket, > if it is singing, of it is car race etc. I think this is not right, > we have to think some more point in Competition chart, and by this > example I want to give you new idea about Competition chart. > > > > This chart is for singing competition. Means only a competitor > win who have good quality of knowledge of Singing. For Singing we > consider 5th cusp, If 5th cusp sublord signifies 5, 6, 10, 11 one > become good singer, if Ven connected with 5th sub it is good. Also > Vrishbha Rasi and Vayu rasi play big roll for singing. > > > > Now we analys chart with this new angle, 5th Sublord is Mar > (Retro) in the star of Own and sub of Ket. Mar (retro) is in 1 lord > of 7, 12. Ket is in 4 conj with Sat and Aspected by Jup. Sat is in 4 > lord of 9, 10, 11, > > We found 10 and 11. Mar is in Mithuna Vayu Rasi. Indicate good > bhava for native. > > > > For Opponent side, 5th Sl is Ven (karaka Planet), in the star of > Mer and sub of Sun. Ven is in 1 lord of 7,12.Mer is in 3 lord of > 8. Sun is in 3 lord of 11. We found 11 and Karaka Planet. > > > > Comparison to both 5th Sub lord of Native is more power full so; > In my opinion Sachin will win this Competition. > > > > Result will be on 18th on Sahara One channel. At night 9.00PM > > > > Regards > > Kanak Bosmia > > Editor KPEzine > > www.loger.com > > > > > > > > " A person should not be too honest. > > Straight trees are cut first > > And Honest people are screwed first. " > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with > Mobile. Try it now. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 Dear Satish ji, Happy Makar sankaranti, in Ahmedabd people mad behind Kite, all the day we saty at terrace and enjoy flying Kite.all the people take Lunch together at terrace.we also enjoy 15th and this two days we enjoy Kites and get to gether tarrace lunch. I agree that all are good in singing but, who bcome sucessfull IN SINGING,is MAIN POINT IN THIS COMPITION, ONLY WHO, WITH 5TH CSL SIGNFIES 5,6,10,11 bcome good singer, and only one bocme winner who perfom good,so if we judge this point , then may be we come to very near. you know we all are very badly fail in compition pridiction in other kp group, and no method found good, only TSP work up to 85% but many not happy to use this, so this is my Idea only, i dont want to say this is only work. we have to check this possiblility too, may be we found some good result. I request you all to check on this line, and we test in group and then come to any ;point, i think nothing wrong to look with new idea. If some one have old fail case, please post in group, we will try to check as per new idea. regards kanak Bosmia R Satish <rsatish1942 wrote: Dear Kanakbhai, We have not exchanged messages for quite some time. On this happy occasion of Makarsankranthi -Wish you and all friends of this Group,HAPPY celebrations. On the subject of competition,we shud agree all participants are good in singing,otherwise they would not be in the competition.Hence examininig 5th house may not be reqd. The competition in India by SMS is not a correct way to judge merit,here it is rigged.Inspite I feel we shud judged like ODIs, 6,11 vs 5,12.When there is doubt we shud check DBA. Regards, Satish l , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: > > Dear All, > > Please take my bellow example as an educative way; this is my thinking with new Idea, maybe I am wrong in this prediction, but definitely it will open some new way of analysis of competitions chart. I request everyone to write his/her opinion on my analysis. > > My daughter is very eager to know will Sachil win in Jjhoom India singing competition. She asked me question " Will Sachin Win Jjhoom India singing Competition on 18th Jan 2008? " > > She gave me number 30, I cast Horary chart on 12 January 2008 at 22.09.55 L.G. Hospital - Ahmedabad 23 N 00, 72 E 36. > > In this chart 6th Sub lord is Sun in own star and Moon sub. Sun is in 9 lord 5 (Opponent 11), sub lord Moon is in 10 lord of 3, 4.This sub lord don't signifies 6 and 11. > > 11th Sl is Ven in Mer start and Sun sub. Ven is in 7 lord of 1, 6. Mer is in 9 lord of 2. Sun is in 9 lord 5 (Opponent 11). > > So 6th and 11th Sl show us both 6 good for himself and 5th good for opponent. By this both Sub lord we can't come to any conclusion Clearly. > > New we check opponent's view by rotated chart 7th as a lagna. > > 6th and 11th sub lord Mar (Retro) in the star of Own and sub of Ket. Mar (retro) is in 7 lord of 1, 6. Ket is in 10 conj with Sat and Aspected by Jup. Sat is in 10 lord of 3, 4, 5 (Opponent 11), Jup is in 2 lord 2 No planet in the star of Jup and Jup is sub lord of 4, 10. This sublord also indicates both 6 and 5 (Opponent 11). > > Here I want to clear one point; I never consider retro plant in my horary (Or any) analysis. What we look retro planet is actually not retro, only we feel as a retro. I personally like this argument of Dr.Kar and farther I do, not check retro cancellation of Dr.Kar , and take planet as a planet even retro. I don't want to say every one believes on my thinking but I strongly request all to check without retro effect and inform me result. > > We use rule same even any kind of Competition, if it is cricket, if it is singing, of it is car race etc. I think this is not right, we have to think some more point in Competition chart, and by this example I want to give you new idea about Competition chart. > > This chart is for singing competition. Means only a competitor win who have good quality of knowledge of Singing. For Singing we consider 5th cusp, If 5th cusp sublord signifies 5, 6, 10, 11 one become good singer, if Ven connected with 5th sub it is good. Also Vrishbha Rasi and Vayu rasi play big roll for singing. > > Now we analys chart with this new angle, 5th Sublord is Mar (Retro) in the star of Own and sub of Ket. Mar (retro) is in 1 lord of 7, 12. Ket is in 4 conj with Sat and Aspected by Jup. Sat is in 4 lord of 9, 10, 11, > We found 10 and 11. Mar is in Mithuna Vayu Rasi. Indicate good bhava for native. > > For Opponent side, 5th Sl is Ven (karaka Planet), in the star of Mer and sub of Sun. Ven is in 1 lord of 7,12.Mer is in 3 lord of 8. Sun is in 3 lord of 11. We found 11 and Karaka Planet. > > Comparison to both 5th Sub lord of Native is more power full so; In my opinion Sachin will win this Competition. > > Result will be on 18th on Sahara One channel. At night 9.00PM > > Regards > Kanak Bosmia > Editor KPEzine > www.loger.com > > > > " A person should not be too honest. > Straight trees are cut first > And Honest people are screwed first. " > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC 75 BC) > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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