Guest guest Posted August 27, 2007 Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 Dear Satish ji, I agree with you, in morden society we need some more fulproof rules for foreign travel, in past perosn going abroad for earn and settle there, but now we have so many resion to go aborad, and we need modifction according to that, in this regard i think some line of checking of rules. first is for higher study we have to check 5th not 12, as per KP we always check 12th, and i think, we have to look by other aspect too.and all this excersice are for that. regards kanak Bosmia R Satish <rsatish1942 wrote: Dear Kanakbhai and Sunil, I think for frquent travellers, I do not think always standard requirements of 3., 9, 12 work . Modern businessman are always travelling. I think along with 3 only 7 or 9 shud be enough.For settlement 12th house comes into prominence. Although 8th house malefics makes one earn abroad, not as per KP .6th comes for travel related to service. In modern society concept of foreign travel needs to be redefined. Regards, Satish l , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: > > Dear Sunil ji, > > Please do not undersant this exmple as a personal test or test of any system, that was not my intantion at all, this is only ecadamic excercise, if i disclosed answer then we( including me) try to justifies event any how and i do not like this. > > by live exmple we can come to some perfect point, which will help us in our pridictive part. > > hope i clear doubt. > > regards > kanak Bosmia > > sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka wrote: > dear kanak, > i request you to disclose the matter and then we will discuss > thanks > -sunil gondhalekar > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: > Dear Suprakash ji, > first data of Horary: > Horary number: 9 > date 22/6/2003 > time: 11.18.00 AM > L.G.hospital-Ahmedabad 23 N 00, 72 E 36 > Question: When will i go abroad for higher eduction? > I request sunil ji to check with his 4 step too. > we will discuss one by one. > regards > Kanak Bosmia > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh wrote: > > I think we have had enough discussion regarding foreign travel. The > difference of thought can only be solved by practical analysis of > charts. > > Let us dissect few charts to reach a consensus. > > All members are requested to contribute chart data related to foreign > travels. > > Regards > > Suprakash > > " A person should not be too honest. > Straight trees are cut first > And Honest people are screwed first. " > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC 75 BC) > > > Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. > Answers - Check it out. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2007 Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 Hello Kanakji Plz let me know at least birth data of this candidate as we need to know whats the age of candidate and what type of higher education he is going to take. I feel when any candidate comes to us we need to know and keep in mind this background even though we are looking for horary chart. We should know does he have any chance of higher education first. So plz if possible give this data if you don't have any objection. Regard Sheetal On 8/27/07, R Satish <rsatish1942 wrote: > > > > Dear Kanakbhai and Sunil, > > I think for frquent travellers, I do not > think always standard requirements of 3., 9, 12 work . > > Modern businessman are always travelling. I > think along with 3 only 7 or 9 shud be enough.For settlement 12th > house comes into prominence. Although 8th house malefics makes one > earn abroad, not as per KP .6th comes for travel related to service. > > In modern society concept of foreign travel > needs to be redefined. > > Regards, > > Satish > > l <l%40>, Kanak Bosmia > <kanakbosmia wrote: > > > > Dear Sunil ji, > > > > Please do not undersant this exmple as a personal test or test of > any system, that was not my intantion at all, this is only ecadamic > excercise, if i disclosed answer then we( including me) try to > justifies event any how and i do not like this. > > > > by live exmple we can come to some perfect point, which will help > us in our pridictive part. > > > > hope i clear doubt. > > > > regards > > kanak Bosmia > > > > sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka wrote: > > dear kanak, > > i request you to disclose the matter and then we will discuss > > thanks > > -sunil gondhalekar > > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: > > Dear Suprakash ji, > > first data of Horary: > > Horary number: 9 > > date 22/6/2003 > > time: 11.18.00 AM > > L.G.hospital-Ahmedabad 23 N 00, 72 E 36 > > Question: When will i go abroad for higher eduction? > > I request sunil ji to check with his 4 step too. > > we will discuss one by one. > > regards > > Kanak Bosmia > > > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh wrote: > > > > I think we have had enough discussion regarding foreign travel. The > > difference of thought can only be solved by practical analysis of > > charts. > > > > Let us dissect few charts to reach a consensus. > > > > All members are requested to contribute chart data related to > foreign > > travels. > > > > Regards > > > > Suprakash > > > > " A person should not be too honest. > > Straight trees are cut first > > And Honest people are screwed first. " > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC > 75 BC) > > > > > > Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone > who knows. > > Answers - Check it out. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2007 Report Share Posted August 28, 2007 Daer Sheetal ji, I dont know native's birth data, but when he come to me is passed BBA, and want to go Australia for MBA. regards Kanaka Bosmia Sheetal <ratnamalag wrote: Hello Kanakji Plz let me know at least birth data of this candidate as we need to know whats the age of candidate and what type of higher education he is going to take. I feel when any candidate comes to us we need to know and keep in mind this background even though we are looking for horary chart. We should know does he have any chance of higher education first. So plz if possible give this data if you don't have any objection. Regard Sheetal On 8/27/07, R Satish <rsatish1942 wrote: > > > > Dear Kanakbhai and Sunil, > > I think for frquent travellers, I do not > think always standard requirements of 3., 9, 12 work . > > Modern businessman are always travelling. I > think along with 3 only 7 or 9 shud be enough.For settlement 12th > house comes into prominence. Although 8th house malefics makes one > earn abroad, not as per KP .6th comes for travel related to service. > > In modern society concept of foreign travel > needs to be redefined. > > Regards, > > Satish > > l <l%40>, Kanak Bosmia > <kanakbosmia wrote: > > > > Dear Sunil ji, > > > > Please do not undersant this exmple as a personal test or test of > any system, that was not my intantion at all, this is only ecadamic > excercise, if i disclosed answer then we( including me) try to > justifies event any how and i do not like this. > > > > by live exmple we can come to some perfect point, which will help > us in our pridictive part. > > > > hope i clear doubt. > > > > regards > > kanak Bosmia > > > > sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka wrote: > > dear kanak, > > i request you to disclose the matter and then we will discuss > > thanks > > -sunil gondhalekar > > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: > > Dear Suprakash ji, > > first data of Horary: > > Horary number: 9 > > date 22/6/2003 > > time: 11.18.00 AM > > L.G.hospital-Ahmedabad 23 N 00, 72 E 36 > > Question: When will i go abroad for higher eduction? > > I request sunil ji to check with his 4 step too. > > we will discuss one by one. > > regards > > Kanak Bosmia > > > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh wrote: > > > > I think we have had enough discussion regarding foreign travel. The > > difference of thought can only be solved by practical analysis of > > charts. > > > > Let us dissect few charts to reach a consensus. > > > > All members are requested to contribute chart data related to > foreign > > travels. > > > > Regards > > > > Suprakash > > > > " A person should not be too honest. > > Straight trees are cut first > > And Honest people are screwed first. " > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC > 75 BC) > > > > > > Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone > who knows. > > Answers - Check it out. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2007 Report Share Posted August 28, 2007 Dear Sheetal ji, I know father of boy, he is my CA. and when i do horary, i look all the aspect, he have no problem of money at all,father wish his child get higher education in foreign , boy self think same. so do not doubt about other aspect. regards Kanak Bosmia Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: Daer Sheetal ji, I dont know native's birth data, but when he come to me is passed BBA, and want to go Australia for MBA. regards Kanaka Bosmia Sheetal <ratnamalag wrote: Hello Kanakji Plz let me know at least birth data of this candidate as we need to know whats the age of candidate and what type of higher education he is going to take. I feel when any candidate comes to us we need to know and keep in mind this background even though we are looking for horary chart. We should know does he have any chance of higher education first. So plz if possible give this data if you don't have any objection. Regard Sheetal On 8/27/07, R Satish <rsatish1942 wrote: > > > > Dear Kanakbhai and Sunil, > > I think for frquent travellers, I do not > think always standard requirements of 3., 9, 12 work . > > Modern businessman are always travelling. I > think along with 3 only 7 or 9 shud be enough.For settlement 12th > house comes into prominence. Although 8th house malefics makes one > earn abroad, not as per KP .6th comes for travel related to service. > > In modern society concept of foreign travel > needs to be redefined. > > Regards, > > Satish > > l <l%40>, Kanak Bosmia > <kanakbosmia wrote: > > > > Dear Sunil ji, > > > > Please do not undersant this exmple as a personal test or test of > any system, that was not my intantion at all, this is only ecadamic > excercise, if i disclosed answer then we( including me) try to > justifies event any how and i do not like this. > > > > by live exmple we can come to some perfect point, which will help > us in our pridictive part. > > > > hope i clear doubt. > > > > regards > > kanak Bosmia > > > > sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka wrote: > > dear kanak, > > i request you to disclose the matter and then we will discuss > > thanks > > -sunil gondhalekar > > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: > > Dear Suprakash ji, > > first data of Horary: > > Horary number: 9 > > date 22/6/2003 > > time: 11.18.00 AM > > L.G.hospital-Ahmedabad 23 N 00, 72 E 36 > > Question: When will i go abroad for higher eduction? > > I request sunil ji to check with his 4 step too. > > we will discuss one by one. > > regards > > Kanak Bosmia > > > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh wrote: > > > > I think we have had enough discussion regarding foreign travel. The > > difference of thought can only be solved by practical analysis of > > charts. > > > > Let us dissect few charts to reach a consensus. > > > > All members are requested to contribute chart data related to > foreign > > travels. > > > > Regards > > > > Suprakash > > > > " A person should not be too honest. > > Straight trees are cut first > > And Honest people are screwed first. " > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC > 75 BC) > > > > > > Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone > who knows. > > Answers - Check it out. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2007 Report Share Posted August 28, 2007 Friends, In Shri Kanak's horary quesry the positional analysis is same as Shri Ghosh. But Bhukthi lord Rahu as sub of 12,9 and 3 should give the travel and 12th top sigs venus and mercury represent Rahu. Considering the transits, the person should have left for abroad around 27th Aug 2003. Of course the favorable period extends upto 24-10-2003. Your comments. With regards Arunachalam On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 SGhosh wrote : >Moon itself is in 12th. so the question is genuine. > > > >Lagna sublord Merc, (3rd lord) is in star of Moon in 12th and in >sub >of Venus.Venus also in star of Moon.So Lagna promises foreign >travel. > >9th lord Jup aspects 12th. >12th cusp sublord is Rahu.Rahu reprenets venus by occupying >venus >sign & being conjoint.Venus in moon star in 12.So Rahu represents >12. >Rahu conjoined with 3rd lord Merc.Merc also in star of moon in >12. >9th lord Jup aspects moon.Moon and jup also exchange sign.So moon >is >also connected with 9th >Furthermore, rahu appears as sublord of 3,9,12 cusps. > > >rahu is in sub of Sat in 3.Sat is in star of Rahu again. Sat >supports >foreign travel but Sat also indicates delay.Saturn is also >cuspal >sublord of 5-7-11,which are 6,8,12 to 12th.So sublord in >neutral. > > >So foreign travel is promised but late.May be in merc dasa >-moon >bhukti-venus antara. > > > > >l , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia >wrote: > > > > Dear Suprakash ji, > > first data of Horary: > > Horary number: 9 > > date 22/6/2003 > > time: 11.18.00 AM > > L.G.hospital-Ahmedabad 23 N 00, 72 E 36 > > Question: When will i go abroad for higher eduction? > > I request sunil ji to check with his 4 step too. > > we will discuss one by one. > > regards > > Kanak Bosmia > > > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh wrote: > > > > I think we have had enough discussion regarding foreign >travel. The > > difference of thought can only be solved by practical analysis >of > > charts. > > > > Let us dissect few charts to reach a consensus. > > > > All members are requested to contribute chart data related >to >foreign > > travels. > > > > Regards > > > > Suprakash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " A person should not be too honest. > > Straight trees are cut first > > And Honest people are screwed first. " > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 >BC >75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from >someone >who knows. > > Answers - Check it out. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 Dear All, this boy never go abroad, he complited his study only in india(ahmedabad). if you look his 5th SL does not signfies 9 or 12 and there for he is not able to go foreign for higher study. regards Kanak Bosmia R Satish <rsatish1942 wrote: Dear Friends, I had alook at the chart as if prepared onJun22 ,2003 at Ahmedabad. 12th sub Rahu signifies 3 hence foreign travel assured. Period would in the DBA of Sat, Rahu, Sat , Jup. Period end Sept/mid Oct 2003.This is as per 4 step-theory. Jup connection necessary.Lots of efforts/conflicts between father and son (Sun/Sat) and Sat/Moon connections. Regards, Satish l , " Arunachalam Jayaraman " <aruncccm wrote: > > Friends, > In Shri Kanak's horary quesry the positional analysis is same as > Shri Ghosh. > But Bhukthi lord Rahu as sub of 12,9 and 3 should give the travel > and 12th top sigs venus and mercury represent Rahu. Considering > the transits, the person should have left for abroad around 27th > Aug 2003. > Of course the favorable period extends upto 24-10-2003. > Your comments. > With regards > Arunachalam > > > On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 SGhosh wrote : > >Moon itself is in 12th. so the question is genuine. > > > > > > > >Lagna sublord Merc, (3rd lord) is in star of Moon in 12th and in > >sub > >of Venus.Venus also in star of Moon.So Lagna promises foreign > >travel. > > > >9th lord Jup aspects 12th. > >12th cusp sublord is Rahu.Rahu reprenets venus by occupying > >venus > >sign & being conjoint.Venus in moon star in 12.So Rahu represents > >12. > >Rahu conjoined with 3rd lord Merc.Merc also in star of moon in > >12. > >9th lord Jup aspects moon.Moon and jup also exchange sign.So moon > >is > >also connected with 9th > >Furthermore, rahu appears as sublord of 3,9,12 cusps. > > > > > >rahu is in sub of Sat in 3.Sat is in star of Rahu again. Sat > >supports > >foreign travel but Sat also indicates delay.Saturn is also > >cuspal > >sublord of 5-7-11,which are 6,8,12 to 12th.So sublord in > >neutral. > > > > > >So foreign travel is promised but late.May be in merc dasa > >-moon > >bhukti-venus antara. > > > > > > > > > >l , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > >wrote: > > > > > > Dear Suprakash ji, > > > first data of Horary: > > > Horary number: 9 > > > date 22/6/2003 > > > time: 11.18.00 AM > > > L.G.hospital-Ahmedabad 23 N 00, 72 E 36 > > > Question: When will i go abroad for higher eduction? > > > I request sunil ji to check with his 4 step too. > > > we will discuss one by one. > > > regards > > > Kanak Bosmia > > > > > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote: > > > > > > I think we have had enough discussion regarding foreign > >travel. The > > > difference of thought can only be solved by practical analysis > >of > > > charts. > > > > > > Let us dissect few charts to reach a consensus. > > > > > > All members are requested to contribute chart data related > >to > >foreign > > > travels. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Suprakash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " A person should not be too honest. > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > And Honest people are screwed first. " > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 > >BC > >75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from > >someone > >who knows. > > > Answers - Check it out. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 Dear Shri Bosmia Saab and others. Given below the chart of a boy, who is now studying for Engg. Degree (Computer science) in Singapore. He left for Singapore for 1st year classes in July last week 2007. Father of the boy has taken educational loan for this boy's education. Regards MK Viswanath Planet Longitude Star KP Pointer Sun 21° Ge 41' 5.1836 " Punarvasu Mer-Jup-Jup-Rah Mercury (R.) 15° Ge 55' 59.2955 " Ardhra Mer-Rah-Ven-Mar Venus 8° Ge 59' 33.8916 " Ardhra Mer-Rah-Jup-Sat Moon 6° Sc 35' 11.2733 " Anuradha Mar-Sat-Mer-Rah Mars 7° Cn 12' 18.6558 " Pushya Moo-Sat-Mer-Sat Jupiter 3° Ar 17' 4.9676 " Aswini Mar-Ket-Sun-Jup Saturn (R.) 22° Sc 18' 17.8808 " Jyeshta Mar-Mer-Moo-Moo Uranus (R.) 0° Sa 17' 57.9613 " Moola Jup-Ket-Ket-Mar Neptune (R.) 12° Sa 47' 50.5609 " Moola Jup-Ket-Mer-Jup Pluto (R.) 13° Li 35' 48.3603 " Swati Ven-Rah-Mer-Mar Rahu 12° Pi 57' 38.2823 " Utra Bhadra Jup-Sat-Rah-Rah Ketu 12° Vi 57' 38.2823 " Hastha Mer-Moo-Rah-Mer Lagna 25° Ta 58' 55.9967 " Mrigasiras Ven-Mar-Rah-Moo Cusps Longitude Star KP Pointer I 25° Ta 58' 55.9967 " Mrigasiras Ven-Mar-Rah-Moo II 21° Ge 17' 50.4691 " Punarvasu Mer-Jup-Jup-Moo III 17° Cn 11' 40.0892 " Aslesha Moo-Mer-Mer-Ven IV 16° Le 19' 33.5736 " Poorva Phalguni Sun-Ven-Moo-Mar V 19° Vi 24' 43.9437 " Hastha Mer-Moo-Mer-Sat VI 23° Li 46' 58.0334 " Vishakha Ven-Jup-Sat-Jup VII 25° Sc 58' 55.9967 " Jyeshta Mar-Mer-Rah-Moo VIII 21° Sa 17' 50.4691 " Poorvashada Jup-Ven-Jup-Sun IX 17° Cp 11' 40.0892 " Shravana Sat-Moo-Sat-Rah X 16° Aq 19' 33.5736 " Sathabhishak Sat-Rah-Ven-Rah XI 19° Pi 24' 43.9437 " Revati Jup-Mer-Ven-Ven XII 23° Ar 46' 58.0334 " Bharani Mar-Ven-Sat-Jup For 10° Li 53' 2.0864 " Swati Ven-Rah-Sat-Mer Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: Dear All, this boy never go abroad, he complited his study only in india(ahmedabad). if you look his 5th SL does not signfies 9 or 12 and there for he is not able to go foreign for higher study. regards Kanak Bosmia R Satish <rsatish1942 wrote: Dear Friends, I had alook at the chart as if prepared onJun22 ,2003 at Ahmedabad. 12th sub Rahu signifies 3 hence foreign travel assured. Period would in the DBA of Sat, Rahu, Sat , Jup. Period end Sept/mid Oct 2003.This is as per 4 step-theory. Jup connection necessary.Lots of efforts/conflicts between father and son (Sun/Sat) and Sat/Moon connections. Regards, Satish l , " Arunachalam Jayaraman " <aruncccm wrote: > > Friends, > In Shri Kanak's horary quesry the positional analysis is same as > Shri Ghosh. > But Bhukthi lord Rahu as sub of 12,9 and 3 should give the travel > and 12th top sigs venus and mercury represent Rahu. Considering > the transits, the person should have left for abroad around 27th > Aug 2003. > Of course the favorable period extends upto 24-10-2003. > Your comments. > With regards > Arunachalam > > > On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 SGhosh wrote : > >Moon itself is in 12th. so the question is genuine. > > > > > > > >Lagna sublord Merc, (3rd lord) is in star of Moon in 12th and in > >sub > >of Venus.Venus also in star of Moon.So Lagna promises foreign > >travel. > > > >9th lord Jup aspects 12th. > >12th cusp sublord is Rahu.Rahu reprenets venus by occupying > >venus > >sign & being conjoint.Venus in moon star in 12.So Rahu represents > >12. > >Rahu conjoined with 3rd lord Merc.Merc also in star of moon in > >12. > >9th lord Jup aspects moon.Moon and jup also exchange sign.So moon > >is > >also connected with 9th > >Furthermore, rahu appears as sublord of 3,9,12 cusps. > > > > > >rahu is in sub of Sat in 3.Sat is in star of Rahu again. Sat > >supports > >foreign travel but Sat also indicates delay.Saturn is also > >cuspal > >sublord of 5-7-11,which are 6,8,12 to 12th.So sublord in > >neutral. > > > > > >So foreign travel is promised but late.May be in merc dasa > >-moon > >bhukti-venus antara. > > > > > > > > > >l , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > >wrote: > > > > > > Dear Suprakash ji, > > > first data of Horary: > > > Horary number: 9 > > > date 22/6/2003 > > > time: 11.18.00 AM > > > L.G.hospital-Ahmedabad 23 N 00, 72 E 36 > > > Question: When will i go abroad for higher eduction? > > > I request sunil ji to check with his 4 step too. > > > we will discuss one by one. > > > regards > > > Kanak Bosmia > > > > > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote: > > > > > > I think we have had enough discussion regarding foreign > >travel. The > > > difference of thought can only be solved by practical analysis > >of > > > charts. > > > > > > Let us dissect few charts to reach a consensus. > > > > > > All members are requested to contribute chart data related > >to > >foreign > > > travels. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Suprakash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " A person should not be too honest. > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > And Honest people are screwed first. " > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 > >BC > >75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from > >someone > >who knows. > > > Answers - Check it out. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 Dear Vishwnath ji, what is birth details? regards kanak Bosmia Astrologer_vishy Nair <astrologervishy_nair wrote: Dear Shri Bosmia Saab and others. Given below the chart of a boy, who is now studying for Engg. Degree (Computer science) in Singapore. He left for Singapore for 1st year classes in July last week 2007. Father of the boy has taken educational loan for this boy's education. Regards MK Viswanath Planet Longitude Star KP Pointer Sun 21° Ge 41' 5.1836 " Punarvasu Mer-Jup-Jup-Rah Mercury (R.) 15° Ge 55' 59.2955 " Ardhra Mer-Rah-Ven-Mar Venus 8° Ge 59' 33.8916 " Ardhra Mer-Rah-Jup-Sat Moon 6° Sc 35' 11.2733 " Anuradha Mar-Sat-Mer-Rah Mars 7° Cn 12' 18.6558 " Pushya Moo-Sat-Mer-Sat Jupiter 3° Ar 17' 4.9676 " Aswini Mar-Ket-Sun-Jup Saturn (R.) 22° Sc 18' 17.8808 " Jyeshta Mar-Mer-Moo-Moo Uranus (R.) 0° Sa 17' 57.9613 " Moola Jup-Ket-Ket-Mar Neptune (R.) 12° Sa 47' 50.5609 " Moola Jup-Ket-Mer-Jup Pluto (R.) 13° Li 35' 48.3603 " Swati Ven-Rah-Mer-Mar Rahu 12° Pi 57' 38.2823 " Utra Bhadra Jup-Sat-Rah-Rah Ketu 12° Vi 57' 38.2823 " Hastha Mer-Moo-Rah-Mer Lagna 25° Ta 58' 55.9967 " Mrigasiras Ven-Mar-Rah-Moo Cusps Longitude Star KP Pointer I 25° Ta 58' 55.9967 " Mrigasiras Ven-Mar-Rah-Moo II 21° Ge 17' 50.4691 " Punarvasu Mer-Jup-Jup-Moo III 17° Cn 11' 40.0892 " Aslesha Moo-Mer-Mer-Ven IV 16° Le 19' 33.5736 " Poorva Phalguni Sun-Ven-Moo-Mar V 19° Vi 24' 43.9437 " Hastha Mer-Moo-Mer-Sat VI 23° Li 46' 58.0334 " Vishakha Ven-Jup-Sat-Jup VII 25° Sc 58' 55.9967 " Jyeshta Mar-Mer-Rah-Moo VIII 21° Sa 17' 50.4691 " Poorvashada Jup-Ven-Jup-Sun IX 17° Cp 11' 40.0892 " Shravana Sat-Moo-Sat-Rah X 16° Aq 19' 33.5736 " Sathabhishak Sat-Rah-Ven-Rah XI 19° Pi 24' 43.9437 " Revati Jup-Mer-Ven-Ven XII 23° Ar 46' 58.0334 " Bharani Mar-Ven-Sat-Jup For 10° Li 53' 2.0864 " Swati Ven-Rah-Sat-Mer Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: Dear All, this boy never go abroad, he complited his study only in india(ahmedabad). if you look his 5th SL does not signfies 9 or 12 and there for he is not able to go foreign for higher study. regards Kanak Bosmia R Satish <rsatish1942 wrote: Dear Friends, I had alook at the chart as if prepared onJun22 ,2003 at Ahmedabad. 12th sub Rahu signifies 3 hence foreign travel assured. Period would in the DBA of Sat, Rahu, Sat , Jup. Period end Sept/mid Oct 2003.This is as per 4 step-theory. Jup connection necessary.Lots of efforts/conflicts between father and son (Sun/Sat) and Sat/Moon connections. Regards, Satish l , " Arunachalam Jayaraman " <aruncccm wrote: > > Friends, > In Shri Kanak's horary quesry the positional analysis is same as > Shri Ghosh. > But Bhukthi lord Rahu as sub of 12,9 and 3 should give the travel > and 12th top sigs venus and mercury represent Rahu. Considering > the transits, the person should have left for abroad around 27th > Aug 2003. > Of course the favorable period extends upto 24-10-2003. > Your comments. > With regards > Arunachalam > > > On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 SGhosh wrote : > >Moon itself is in 12th. so the question is genuine. > > > > > > > >Lagna sublord Merc, (3rd lord) is in star of Moon in 12th and in > >sub > >of Venus.Venus also in star of Moon.So Lagna promises foreign > >travel. > > > >9th lord Jup aspects 12th. > >12th cusp sublord is Rahu.Rahu reprenets venus by occupying > >venus > >sign & being conjoint.Venus in moon star in 12.So Rahu represents > >12. > >Rahu conjoined with 3rd lord Merc.Merc also in star of moon in > >12. > >9th lord Jup aspects moon.Moon and jup also exchange sign.So moon > >is > >also connected with 9th > >Furthermore, rahu appears as sublord of 3,9,12 cusps. > > > > > >rahu is in sub of Sat in 3.Sat is in star of Rahu again. Sat > >supports > >foreign travel but Sat also indicates delay.Saturn is also > >cuspal > >sublord of 5-7-11,which are 6,8,12 to 12th.So sublord in > >neutral. > > > > > >So foreign travel is promised but late.May be in merc dasa > >-moon > >bhukti-venus antara. > > > > > > > > > >l , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > >wrote: > > > > > > Dear Suprakash ji, > > > first data of Horary: > > > Horary number: 9 > > > date 22/6/2003 > > > time: 11.18.00 AM > > > L.G.hospital-Ahmedabad 23 N 00, 72 E 36 > > > Question: When will i go abroad for higher eduction? > > > I request sunil ji to check with his 4 step too. > > > we will discuss one by one. > > > regards > > > Kanak Bosmia > > > > > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote: > > > > > > I think we have had enough discussion regarding foreign > >travel. The > > > difference of thought can only be solved by practical analysis > >of > > > charts. > > > > > > Let us dissect few charts to reach a consensus. > > > > > > All members are requested to contribute chart data related > >to > >foreign > > > travels. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Suprakash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " A person should not be too honest. > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > And Honest people are screwed first. " > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 > >BC > >75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from > >someone > >who knows. > > > Answers - Check it out. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 In this case 12th sub lord is Sat. Moon in in sat star. Moon is cuspal sublord of 4th and cuspal starlord of 9 Thus it offered the result of foreign travel for Higher Education. Suprakash l [l ] On Behalf Of Kanak Bosmia Friday, August 31, 2007 10:11 AM l Re: [l] Re: Foreign Travel Dear Vishwnath ji, what is birth details? regards kanak Bosmia Astrologer_vishy Nair <astrologervishy_nair wrote: Dear Shri Bosmia Saab and others. Given below the chart of a boy, who is now studying for Engg. Degree (Computer science) in Singapore. He left for Singapore for 1st year classes in July last week 2007. Father of the boy has taken educational loan for this boy's education. Regards MK Viswanath Planet Longitude Star KP Pointer Sun 21° Ge 41' 5.1836 " Punarvasu Mer-Jup-Jup-Rah Mercury (R.) 15° Ge 55' 59.2955 " Ardhra Mer-Rah-Ven-Mar Venus 8° Ge 59' 33.8916 " Ardhra Mer-Rah-Jup-Sat Moon 6° Sc 35' 11.2733 " Anuradha Mar-Sat-Mer-Rah Mars 7° Cn 12' 18.6558 " Pushya Moo-Sat-Mer-Sat Jupiter 3° Ar 17' 4.9676 " Aswini Mar-Ket-Sun-Jup Saturn (R.) 22° Sc 18' 17.8808 " Jyeshta Mar-Mer-Moo-Moo Uranus (R.) 0° Sa 17' 57.9613 " Moola Jup-Ket-Ket-Mar Neptune (R.) 12° Sa 47' 50.5609 " Moola Jup-Ket-Mer-Jup Pluto (R.) 13° Li 35' 48.3603 " Swati Ven-Rah-Mer-Mar Rahu 12° Pi 57' 38.2823 " Utra Bhadra Jup-Sat-Rah-Rah Ketu 12° Vi 57' 38.2823 " Hastha Mer-Moo-Rah-Mer Lagna 25° Ta 58' 55.9967 " Mrigasiras Ven-Mar-Rah-Moo Cusps Longitude Star KP Pointer I 25° Ta 58' 55.9967 " Mrigasiras Ven-Mar-Rah-Moo II 21° Ge 17' 50.4691 " Punarvasu Mer-Jup-Jup-Moo III 17° Cn 11' 40.0892 " Aslesha Moo-Mer-Mer-Ven IV 16° Le 19' 33.5736 " Poorva Phalguni Sun-Ven-Moo-Mar V 19° Vi 24' 43.9437 " Hastha Mer-Moo-Mer-Sat VI 23° Li 46' 58.0334 " Vishakha Ven-Jup-Sat-Jup VII 25° Sc 58' 55.9967 " Jyeshta Mar-Mer-Rah-Moo VIII 21° Sa 17' 50.4691 " Poorvashada Jup-Ven-Jup-Sun IX 17° Cp 11' 40.0892 " Shravana Sat-Moo-Sat-Rah X 16° Aq 19' 33.5736 " Sathabhishak Sat-Rah-Ven-Rah XI 19° Pi 24' 43.9437 " Revati Jup-Mer-Ven-Ven XII 23° Ar 46' 58.0334 " Bharani Mar-Ven-Sat-Jup For 10° Li 53' 2.0864 " Swati Ven-Rah-Sat-Mer Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: Dear All, this boy never go abroad, he complited his study only in india(ahmedabad). if you look his 5th SL does not signfies 9 or 12 and there for he is not able to go foreign for higher study. regards Kanak Bosmia R Satish <rsatish1942 wrote: Dear Friends, I had alook at the chart as if prepared onJun22 ,2003 at Ahmedabad. 12th sub Rahu signifies 3 hence foreign travel assured. Period would in the DBA of Sat, Rahu, Sat , Jup. Period end Sept/mid Oct 2003.This is as per 4 step-theory. Jup connection necessary.Lots of efforts/conflicts between father and son (Sun/Sat) and Sat/Moon connections. Regards, Satish l , " Arunachalam Jayaraman " <aruncccm wrote: > > Friends, > In Shri Kanak's horary quesry the positional analysis is same as > Shri Ghosh. > But Bhukthi lord Rahu as sub of 12,9 and 3 should give the travel > and 12th top sigs venus and mercury represent Rahu. Considering > the transits, the person should have left for abroad around 27th > Aug 2003. > Of course the favorable period extends upto 24-10-2003. > Your comments. > With regards > Arunachalam > > > On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 SGhosh wrote : > >Moon itself is in 12th. so the question is genuine. > > > > > > > >Lagna sublord Merc, (3rd lord) is in star of Moon in 12th and in > >sub > >of Venus.Venus also in star of Moon.So Lagna promises foreign > >travel. > > > >9th lord Jup aspects 12th. > >12th cusp sublord is Rahu.Rahu reprenets venus by occupying > >venus > >sign & being conjoint.Venus in moon star in 12.So Rahu represents > >12. > >Rahu conjoined with 3rd lord Merc.Merc also in star of moon in > >12. > >9th lord Jup aspects moon.Moon and jup also exchange sign.So moon > >is > >also connected with 9th > >Furthermore, rahu appears as sublord of 3,9,12 cusps. > > > > > >rahu is in sub of Sat in 3.Sat is in star of Rahu again. Sat > >supports > >foreign travel but Sat also indicates delay.Saturn is also > >cuspal > >sublord of 5-7-11,which are 6,8,12 to 12th.So sublord in > >neutral. > > > > > >So foreign travel is promised but late.May be in merc dasa > >-moon > >bhukti-venus antara. > > > > > > > > > >l , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > >wrote: > > > > > > Dear Suprakash ji, > > > first data of Horary: > > > Horary number: 9 > > > date 22/6/2003 > > > time: 11.18.00 AM > > > L.G.hospital-Ahmedabad 23 N 00, 72 E 36 > > > Question: When will i go abroad for higher eduction? > > > I request sunil ji to check with his 4 step too. > > > we will discuss one by one. > > > regards > > > Kanak Bosmia > > > > > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote: > > > > > > I think we have had enough discussion regarding foreign > >travel. The > > > difference of thought can only be solved by practical analysis > >of > > > charts. > > > > > > Let us dissect few charts to reach a consensus. > > > > > > All members are requested to contribute chart data related > >to > >foreign > > > travels. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Suprakash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " A person should not be too honest. > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > And Honest people are screwed first. " > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 > >BC > >75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from > >someone > >who knows. > > > Answers - Check it out. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 Dear Kanakji and Satishji, In modern time, the foreign journy too has become of short period. So would't it be logical to connect short duration foreign trips to the 3rd house? Or, is the 3rd house strictly linked with short distance and not time? with regards Chadnrashekhar Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: Dear Satish ji, I agree with you, in morden society we need some more fulproof rules for foreign travel, in past perosn going abroad for earn and settle there, but now we have so many resion to go aborad, and we need modifction according to that, in this regard i think some line of checking of rules. first is for higher study we have to check 5th not 12, as per KP we always check 12th, and i think, we have to look by other aspect too.and all this excersice are for that. regards kanak Bosmia R Satish <rsatish1942 wrote: Dear Kanakbhai and Sunil, I think for frquent travellers, I do not think always standard requirements of 3., 9, 12 work . Modern businessman are always travelling. I think along with 3 only 7 or 9 shud be enough.For settlement 12th house comes into prominence. Although 8th house malefics makes one earn abroad, not as per KP .6th comes for travel related to service. In modern society concept of foreign travel needs to be redefined. Regards, Satish l , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: > > Dear Sunil ji, > > Please do not undersant this exmple as a personal test or test of any system, that was not my intantion at all, this is only ecadamic excercise, if i disclosed answer then we( including me) try to justifies event any how and i do not like this. > > by live exmple we can come to some perfect point, which will help us in our pridictive part. > > hope i clear doubt. > > regards > kanak Bosmia > > sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka wrote: > dear kanak, > i request you to disclose the matter and then we will discuss > thanks > -sunil gondhalekar > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: > Dear Suprakash ji, > first data of Horary: > Horary number: 9 > date 22/6/2003 > time: 11.18.00 AM > L.G.hospital-Ahmedabad 23 N 00, 72 E 36 > Question: When will i go abroad for higher eduction? > I request sunil ji to check with his 4 step too. > we will discuss one by one. > regards > Kanak Bosmia > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh wrote: > > I think we have had enough discussion regarding foreign travel. The > difference of thought can only be solved by practical analysis of > charts. > > Let us dissect few charts to reach a consensus. > > All members are requested to contribute chart data related to foreign > travels. > > Regards > > Suprakash > > " A person should not be too honest. > Straight trees are cut first > And Honest people are screwed first. " > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC 75 BC) > > > Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. > Answers - Check it out. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 3rd can be considered as it is 12th to 4th.4th is one's own residence. Suprakash l [l ] On Behalf Of CJ Friday, August 31, 2007 4:25 PM l Re: [l] Re: Foreign Travel Dear Kanakji and Satishji, In modern time, the foreign journy too has become of short period. So would't it be logical to connect short duration foreign trips to the 3rd house? Or, is the 3rd house strictly linked with short distance and not time? with regards Chadnrashekhar Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: Dear Satish ji, I agree with you, in morden society we need some more fulproof rules for foreign travel, in past perosn going abroad for earn and settle there, but now we have so many resion to go aborad, and we need modifction according to that, in this regard i think some line of checking of rules. first is for higher study we have to check 5th not 12, as per KP we always check 12th, and i think, we have to look by other aspect too.and all this excersice are for that. regards kanak Bosmia R Satish <rsatish1942 wrote: Dear Kanakbhai and Sunil, I think for frquent travellers, I do not think always standard requirements of 3., 9, 12 work . Modern businessman are always travelling. I think along with 3 only 7 or 9 shud be enough.For settlement 12th house comes into prominence. Although 8th house malefics makes one earn abroad, not as per KP .6th comes for travel related to service. In modern society concept of foreign travel needs to be redefined. Regards, Satish l , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: > > Dear Sunil ji, > > Please do not undersant this exmple as a personal test or test of any system, that was not my intantion at all, this is only ecadamic excercise, if i disclosed answer then we( including me) try to justifies event any how and i do not like this. > > by live exmple we can come to some perfect point, which will help us in our pridictive part. > > hope i clear doubt. > > regards > kanak Bosmia > > sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka wrote: > dear kanak, > i request you to disclose the matter and then we will discuss > thanks > -sunil gondhalekar > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: > Dear Suprakash ji, > first data of Horary: > Horary number: 9 > date 22/6/2003 > time: 11.18.00 AM > L.G.hospital-Ahmedabad 23 N 00, 72 E 36 > Question: When will i go abroad for higher eduction? > I request sunil ji to check with his 4 step too. > we will discuss one by one. > regards > Kanak Bosmia > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh wrote: > > I think we have had enough discussion regarding foreign travel. The > difference of thought can only be solved by practical analysis of > charts. > > Let us dissect few charts to reach a consensus. > > All members are requested to contribute chart data related to foreign > travels. > > Regards > > Suprakash > > " A person should not be too honest. > Straight trees are cut first > And Honest people are screwed first. " > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC 75 BC) > > > Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. > Answers - Check it out. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 Dear Mr Bosmia saab Dob is 08-07-1987 at 03-52-00 am at Vijayawada, gender-M. Regards MK Viswanath Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: Dear Vishwnath ji, what is birth details? regards kanak Bosmia Astrologer_vishy Nair <astrologervishy_nair wrote: Dear Shri Bosmia Saab and others. Given below the chart of a boy, who is now studying for Engg. Degree (Computer science) in Singapore. He left for Singapore for 1st year classes in July last week 2007. Father of the boy has taken educational loan for this boy's education. Regards MK Viswanath Planet Longitude Star KP Pointer Sun 21° Ge 41' 5.1836 " Punarvasu Mer-Jup-Jup-Rah Mercury (R.) 15° Ge 55' 59.2955 " Ardhra Mer-Rah-Ven-Mar Venus 8° Ge 59' 33.8916 " Ardhra Mer-Rah-Jup-Sat Moon 6° Sc 35' 11.2733 " Anuradha Mar-Sat-Mer-Rah Mars 7° Cn 12' 18.6558 " Pushya Moo-Sat-Mer-Sat Jupiter 3° Ar 17' 4.9676 " Aswini Mar-Ket-Sun-Jup Saturn (R.) 22° Sc 18' 17.8808 " Jyeshta Mar-Mer-Moo-Moo Uranus (R.) 0° Sa 17' 57.9613 " Moola Jup-Ket-Ket-Mar Neptune (R.) 12° Sa 47' 50.5609 " Moola Jup-Ket-Mer-Jup Pluto (R.) 13° Li 35' 48.3603 " Swati Ven-Rah-Mer-Mar Rahu 12° Pi 57' 38.2823 " Utra Bhadra Jup-Sat-Rah-Rah Ketu 12° Vi 57' 38.2823 " Hastha Mer-Moo-Rah-Mer Lagna 25° Ta 58' 55.9967 " Mrigasiras Ven-Mar-Rah-Moo Cusps Longitude Star KP Pointer I 25° Ta 58' 55.9967 " Mrigasiras Ven-Mar-Rah-Moo II 21° Ge 17' 50.4691 " Punarvasu Mer-Jup-Jup-Moo III 17° Cn 11' 40.0892 " Aslesha Moo-Mer-Mer-Ven IV 16° Le 19' 33.5736 " Poorva Phalguni Sun-Ven-Moo-Mar V 19° Vi 24' 43.9437 " Hastha Mer-Moo-Mer-Sat VI 23° Li 46' 58.0334 " Vishakha Ven-Jup-Sat-Jup VII 25° Sc 58' 55.9967 " Jyeshta Mar-Mer-Rah-Moo VIII 21° Sa 17' 50.4691 " Poorvashada Jup-Ven-Jup-Sun IX 17° Cp 11' 40.0892 " Shravana Sat-Moo-Sat-Rah X 16° Aq 19' 33.5736 " Sathabhishak Sat-Rah-Ven-Rah XI 19° Pi 24' 43.9437 " Revati Jup-Mer-Ven-Ven XII 23° Ar 46' 58.0334 " Bharani Mar-Ven-Sat-Jup For 10° Li 53' 2.0864 " Swati Ven-Rah-Sat-Mer Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: Dear All, this boy never go abroad, he complited his study only in india(ahmedabad). if you look his 5th SL does not signfies 9 or 12 and there for he is not able to go foreign for higher study. regards Kanak Bosmia R Satish <rsatish1942 wrote: Dear Friends, I had alook at the chart as if prepared onJun22 ,2003 at Ahmedabad. 12th sub Rahu signifies 3 hence foreign travel assured. Period would in the DBA of Sat, Rahu, Sat , Jup. Period end Sept/mid Oct 2003.This is as per 4 step-theory. Jup connection necessary.Lots of efforts/conflicts between father and son (Sun/Sat) and Sat/Moon connections. Regards, Satish l , " Arunachalam Jayaraman " <aruncccm wrote: > > Friends, > In Shri Kanak's horary quesry the positional analysis is same as > Shri Ghosh. > But Bhukthi lord Rahu as sub of 12,9 and 3 should give the travel > and 12th top sigs venus and mercury represent Rahu. Considering > the transits, the person should have left for abroad around 27th > Aug 2003. > Of course the favorable period extends upto 24-10-2003. > Your comments. > With regards > Arunachalam > > > On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 SGhosh wrote : > >Moon itself is in 12th. so the question is genuine. > > > > > > > >Lagna sublord Merc, (3rd lord) is in star of Moon in 12th and in > >sub > >of Venus.Venus also in star of Moon.So Lagna promises foreign > >travel. > > > >9th lord Jup aspects 12th. > >12th cusp sublord is Rahu.Rahu reprenets venus by occupying > >venus > >sign & being conjoint.Venus in moon star in 12.So Rahu represents > >12. > >Rahu conjoined with 3rd lord Merc.Merc also in star of moon in > >12. > >9th lord Jup aspects moon.Moon and jup also exchange sign.So moon > >is > >also connected with 9th > >Furthermore, rahu appears as sublord of 3,9,12 cusps. > > > > > >rahu is in sub of Sat in 3.Sat is in star of Rahu again. Sat > >supports > >foreign travel but Sat also indicates delay.Saturn is also > >cuspal > >sublord of 5-7-11,which are 6,8,12 to 12th.So sublord in > >neutral. > > > > > >So foreign travel is promised but late.May be in merc dasa > >-moon > >bhukti-venus antara. > > > > > > > > > >l , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > >wrote: > > > > > > Dear Suprakash ji, > > > first data of Horary: > > > Horary number: 9 > > > date 22/6/2003 > > > time: 11.18.00 AM > > > L.G.hospital-Ahmedabad 23 N 00, 72 E 36 > > > Question: When will i go abroad for higher eduction? > > > I request sunil ji to check with his 4 step too. > > > we will discuss one by one. > > > regards > > > Kanak Bosmia > > > > > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote: > > > > > > I think we have had enough discussion regarding foreign > >travel. The > > > difference of thought can only be solved by practical analysis > >of > > > charts. > > > > > > Let us dissect few charts to reach a consensus. > > > > > > All members are requested to contribute chart data related > >to > >foreign > > > travels. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Suprakash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " A person should not be too honest. > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > And Honest people are screwed first. " > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 > >BC > >75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from > >someone > >who knows. > > > Answers - Check it out. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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