Guest guest Posted March 11, 2003 Report Share Posted March 11, 2003 DEAR SURESH, HOPE YOU ARE ENJOYING KP WITH ALL YOUR SPRITS. I AM GIVING MY REPLY IN UPPER CASE WHICH IS AS FOLLOWS: Identify whether marriage is promised ? YOU SHOULD ALWAYS TAKE THE RULING PLANETS WHILE TAKING THE TIMINGS OF THE EVENTS. I HAD SUGGESSTED YOU TO TAKE IT IN MY PREVIOUS MAIL. Ans: sublord of 7th cusp is Saturn in the moon's constellation at 1st house. Saturn's sublord is Jupiter which is also in the first house. YOU HAVE NOT GIVEN THE PROPER DIAGRAM AND THE DEGREE S OF THE PALNETS SO IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO SEE THAT WHAT IS THE EXACT SITUATION OF THE PLANETS.MY QUESTIONS: 1) Is the sublord of the 7th cusp the only factor to evaluate whether marriage is promised or not ? IT HAS TO BE GIVEN MAXIMUM WEIGHTAGE. SEE THAT THE SUB-LORDS OF 2H OR/AND 11H SIGNIFY THE 7H OR NOT. 2)IN this case, the sublord is not well placed…Does this mean that this lady will not be married at all ? To be more specific, can some one explain in this case, which factors tell us that marriage is promised ? EVERYTHING DEPENDS ON THE PSOITION OF THE STAR LORD AND THE SUB OF THE SUB-LORD. YOU SHOULD MAKE THE FINAL SIG. OF THE SUB-LORD OR THE PLANET IN QUESTION BY APPLYING FOUR STEP THEORY, ASPECTS, CONJUCTIONS AND THEN LAND ON THE CONCLUSIONS.IT IS BETTER FOR YOU TO READ THE BOOK ON TRASIST WHERE EVERY THING HAS BEEN TAKEN FROM ALMOST A TO Z FOR THE BASIC UNDERSTANDING. FOR THE TIMING OF ANY EVENT FROM THE HOROSCOPE IT IS MENDATORY TO RECTIFY THE TIMING OF THE BIRTH BY USING KP. OTHERWISE TAKE HORARY INTO APPLICATION AND ALWAYS KEEP YOUR CLOCK/WRIST WATCH CORRECT TO THE SECOND FOR NOTING THE TIME OF DIVINATION OF THE HORARY CHART OR TAKING RULING PLANETS WHEN EVER YOU APPLY THEM.3) I did not consider the aspects of planets in this case. Can someone help me in explaining how I should handle aspects in this particular case ? For eg, in this case, Sat and Jup are cojoined in the first house. What should I infer ?THEY ARE CONJOINED THEN SEE , ARE THEY WITHIN THE 3DEG 20 SEC ORB TO EACH OTHER OR NOT. IF THEY ARE, THEN APPLY THE SIG OF JUP ON SAT AND VISE VERSA. DO CONSIDER THE ASPECTS. ASPECTS ARE JUST LIKE THE PRASHARI PRINCIPLE.OK…Assuming that marriage is promised, I proceed further….DEAR SURESH , NEVER ASSUME THE THINGS. WE ARE DEALING WITH THE PURE ASTROLOGY SO BE ON THE PRACTICAL NOTE. Identify the significators for marriage ? 2nd house – occupied by none owned by Mercury. 7th house – occupied by none owned by Saturn.11th house – occupied by Rahu owned by mercury. Currently this female is running Venus dasa, mars bukti till 12th feb 2004. Then till feb 12th 2007, she has venus dasa rahu bukti. RULING PLANETS HELP TO ELIMINTATE THE UNFRUITFUL SIGNIFICATORS. I presume her marriage should happen in this timeframe…but do not know how to justify it….Can someone help me dissect my analysis to further granularity ?READ ABOUT THE RULING PLANETS AND THE BASICS OF SUB-LORDS. GOD BLESS YOUR ENTHUSIASM, KEEP ON ATTEMPTING KP BUT PLEASE DO READ THE BASICS FIRST TO PROTECT YOUR ENTHUSIASM OTHERWISE YOU WILL GET FRUSTRATED SOON. YOUR QUERRY REGARDING MERRIAGE HAS BEEN DEALT BY ME WHICH I WILL BE POSTING AFTER HOLI. WITH REGARDS,ANURODH.Given below is the analysis of a female whose date of birth is16th Dec 1980. Time is: 10:47PMLatitude: 26N45Longitude:89E21DASA BAL. Merc 8 Y. 317 Days ENDS ON 29 10 1989BHK. Bal. Moon 0 Y. 134 Days: ANT. Bal. Ketu 22 Days: SOOK Bal. Sun. 0 DaysCUSP Sgl Stl Sbl Ssl :PLANET Sgl Stl Sbl SsLASC Sun Ven Sat Mer :SUN. Jup Ket Ven Moo 2nd Mer Moo Ket Moo :MOON Jup Mer Moo Ket 3rd Ven Jup Jup Sat :MARS Jup Ven Mer Jup 4th Mar Mer Sun Jup :MERC Mar Mer Moo Ven 5th Jup Ven Sat Moo :JUP. Mer Moo Jup Mer 6th Sat Mar Mar Jup :VEN. Mar Sat Sat Moo 7th Sat Jup Sat Mer :SAT. Mer Moo Jup Mar 8th Jup Mer Ven Moo :RAHU Moo Mer Ven Moo 9th Mar Ven Jup Jup :KETU Sat Moo Ket Ven 10th Ven Moo Ven Jup :URAN Mar Sat Sat Ven 11th Mer Jup Sat Moo :NEPT Mar Mer Sat Sun 12th Moo Mer Mar Jup :FOR. Jup Ven Ven Moo :PLUT Ven Mar Mer Ket Another case-study to identify the time of marriage:====================================================Identify whether marriage is promised ?Ans: sublord of 7th cusp is Saturn in the moon's constellation at 1st house. Saturn's sublord is Jupiter which is also in the first house. MY QUESTIONS:1) Is the sublord of the 7th cusp the only factor to evaluate whether marriage is promised or not ?2) IN this case, the sublord is not well placed…Does this mean that this lady will not be married at all ? To be more specific, can some one explain in this case, which factors tell us that marriage is promised ?3) I did not consider the aspects of planets in this case. Can someone help me in explaining how I should handle aspects in this particular case ? For eg, in this case, Sat and Jup are cojoined in the first house. What should I infer ?OK…Assuming that marriage is promised, I proceed further….Identify the significators for marriage ?2nd house – occupied by none owned by Mercury.7th house – occupied by none owned by Saturn.11th house – occupied by Rahu owned by mercury.Currently this female is running Venus dasa, mars bukti till 12th feb 2004. Then till feb 12th 2007, she has venus dasa rahu bukti.I presume her marriage should happen in this timeframe…but do not know how to justify it….Can someone help me dissect my analysis to further granularity ?Thanks a lot, Luv..luvies,Suresh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2003 Report Share Posted March 19, 2003 Hello Anurodh / Nagesh, Thanks a lot for your replies. I was out of station and could not access the net for past 1 week. Yes. I am still interested in knowing/mastering KP and am reading and practising a lot. Nagesh...regarding your question about whether the girl has oval face or not, I dont know. because I have not met her and got the birth details thru a common friend...and unfortunately my friend has gone to delhi...So need to wait for him to come back. Anurodh, thanks for the analysis of the horoscope... I have lots of questions on your statements. Regaring why I did not give the whole chart in my post, I thought everyone in this newsgroup is using the KP.exe binary which helps to chart the horoscope... If you want the full chart I have attached along with this msg. To begin with, a) You still have not given me an answer about when that female will marry. If you have time, pl. calculate the time frame and provide the answer in step by step so that I can better understand the methodology you follow. b) Your statement that " ASPECTS ARE JUST LIKE THE PRASHARI PRINCIPLE. " seems to differ from what KP has to say in the readers. In the KP first reader, he mentions that Hindu system of aspects talk about aspects from sign to sign whereas he endorses western system of aspect which depends on the longitudinal distance between the planets. Have I misunderstood your statement ? c) I agree with your statement that one should not ASS-U-ME because as an infamous english statement goes, when you assume, you make an ASS out of U and ME :-). So I will remember not to assume. d) I have stopped working on charts and am going back to basics. As I read the six readers again and again, I end up having lots of unanswered questions. I plan to post my doubts in a seperate thread so that we do not mix up analysis of charts with clearing the doubts. Thanks, Suresh. -------------------------------- | | | | | | | | | | |Moon 23 2 41| | | | |VIII 19 53 57| | | | | |IX 20 18 29|X 21 51 8|X1 23 9 49| | | | | | | | | | | -------------------------------- | | NAME:Ms. X | | | | TUESDAY 16 12 1980 | | | | Time 22 47 | | |VII 22 17 4| | | | | SID.TIME 4 h. 56 m. 24 s. |Rahu 19 49 29| | | |XII 23 33 4| | | NAKS:Revati-PADA 2 | | | | | | :---------------| PLACE:Hashimara WB, India |---------------| | | | | | | LAT 26 deg 45 min | | |VI 23 33 4| | | |Ketu 19 49 29| Long 89 deg 21 min E | | | | |Asc. 22 17 4| | | Ayan 23 d. 30 m. 3 s. | | | | | | | | | | -------------------------------- | | | | | | |Nept 29 0 15| | | |Mars 25 24 59|Merc 23 15 23|III 20 18 29| | |V 23 9 49|IV 21 51 8|Plut 0 20 26|Jup 14 34 49| |For 13 53 40|Ven 4 35 5| |Sat 15 19 19| |Sun 1 26 5|Uran 4 5 51| |II 19 53 57| | | | | | | | | | | -------------------------------- DASA BAL. Merc 8 Y. 317 Days ENDS ON 29 10 1989 BHK. Bal. Moon 0 Y. 134 Days: ANT. Bal. Ketu 22 Days: SOOK Bal. Sun. 0 Days CUSP Sgl Stl Sbl Ssl :PLANET Sgl Stl Sbl SsL ASC Sun Ven Sat Mer :SUN. Jup Ket Ven Moo 2nd Mer Moo Ket Moo :MOON Jup Mer Moo Ket 3rd Ven Jup Jup Sat :MARS Jup Ven Mer Jup 4th Mar Mer Sun Jup :MERC Mar Mer Moo Ven 5th Jup Ven Sat Moo :JUP. Mer Moo Jup Mer 6th Sat Mar Mar Jup :VEN. Mar Sat Sat Moo 7th Sat Jup Sat Mer :SAT. Mer Moo Jup Mar 8th Jup Mer Ven Moo :RAHU Moo Mer Ven Moo 9th Mar Ven Jup Jup :KETU Sat Moo Ket Ven 10th Ven Moo Ven Jup :URAN Mar Sat Sat Ven 11th Mer Jup Sat Moo :NEPT Mar Mer Sat Sun 12th Moo Mer Mar Jup :FOR. Jup Ven Ven Moo l , Anurodh Kumar <anurodh1> wrote: > > DEAR SURESH, > HOPE YOU ARE ENJOYING KP WITH ALL YOUR SPRITS. I AM GIVING MY REPLY IN UPPER CASE WHICH IS AS FOLLOWS: > Identify whether marriage is promised ? > YOU SHOULD ALWAYS TAKE THE RULING PLANETS WHILE TAKING THE TIMINGS OF THE EVENTS. I HAD SUGGESSTED YOU TO TAKE IT IN MY PREVIOUS MAIL. > Ans: sublord of 7th cusp is Saturn in the moon's constellation at 1st > house. > Saturn's sublord is Jupiter which is also in the first house. > YOU HAVE NOT GIVEN THE PROPER DIAGRAM AND THE DEGREE S OF THE PALNETS SO IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO SEE THAT WHAT IS THE EXACT SITUATION OF THE PLANETS. > MY QUESTIONS: > 1) Is the sublord of the 7th cusp the only factor to evaluate > whether marriage is promised or not ? > IT HAS TO BE GIVEN MAXIMUM WEIGHTAGE. SEE THAT THE SUB-LORDS OF 2H OR/AND 11H SIGNIFY THE 7H OR NOT. > 2)IN this case, the sublord is not well placed?Does this mean > that this lady will not be married at all ? To be more specific, can > some one explain in this case, which factors tell us that marriage is > promised ? > EVERYTHING DEPENDS ON THE PSOITION OF THE STAR LORD AND THE SUB OF THE SUB-LORD. YOU SHOULD MAKE THE FINAL SIG. OF THE SUB-LORD OR THE PLANET IN QUESTION BY APPLYING FOUR STEP THEORY, ASPECTS, CONJUCTIONS AND THEN LAND ON THE CONCLUSIONS. > IT IS BETTER FOR YOU TO READ THE BOOK ON TRASIST WHERE EVERY THING HAS BEEN TAKEN FROM ALMOST A TO Z FOR THE BASIC UNDERSTANDING. FOR THE TIMING OF ANY EVENT FROM THE HOROSCOPE IT IS MENDATORY TO RECTIFY THE TIMING OF THE BIRTH BY USING KP. OTHERWISE TAKE HORARY INTO APPLICATION AND ALWAYS KEEP YOUR CLOCK/WRIST WATCH CORRECT TO THE SECOND FOR NOTING THE TIME OF DIVINATION OF THE HORARY CHART OR TAKING RULING PLANETS WHEN EVER YOU APPLY THEM. > 3) I did not consider the aspects of planets in this case. Can > someone help me in explaining how I should handle aspects in this > particular case ? For eg, in this case, Sat and Jup are cojoined in > the first house. What should I infer ? > THEY ARE CONJOINED THEN SEE , ARE THEY WITHIN THE 3DEG 20 SEC ORB TO EACH OTHER OR NOT. IF THEY ARE, THEN APPLY THE SIG OF JUP ON SAT AND VISE VERSA. DO CONSIDER THE ASPECTS. ASPECTS ARE JUST LIKE THE PRASHARI PRINCIPLE. > OK?Assuming that marriage is promised, I proceed further?. > DEAR SURESH , NEVER ASSUME THE THINGS. WE ARE DEALING WITH THE PURE ASTROLOGY SO BE ON THE PRACTICAL NOTE. > Identify the significators for marriage ? > 2nd house - occupied by none > owned by Mercury. > 7th house - occupied by none owned by Saturn. > 11th house - occupied by Rahu owned by mercury. > Currently this female is running Venus dasa, mars bukti till 12th feb > 2004. Then till feb 12th 2007, she has venus dasa rahu bukti. > RULING PLANETS HELP TO ELIMINTATE THE UNFRUITFUL SIGNIFICATORS. > I presume her marriage should happen in this timeframe?but do not > know how to justify it?.Can someone help me dissect my analysis to > further granularity ? > READ ABOUT THE RULING PLANETS AND THE BASICS OF SUB-LORDS. > > GOD BLESS YOUR ENTHUSIASM, KEEP ON ATTEMPTING KP BUT PLEASE DO READ THE BASICS FIRST TO PROTECT YOUR ENTHUSIASM OTHERWISE YOU WILL GET FRUSTRATED SOON. > > YOUR QUERRY REGARDING MERRIAGE HAS BEEN DEALT BY ME WHICH I WILL BE POSTING AFTER HOLI. > > WITH REGARDS, > ANURODH. > > Given below is the analysis of a female whose date of birth is > 16th Dec 1980. > Time is: 10:47PM > Latitude: 26N45 > Longitude:89E21 > > DASA BAL. Merc 8 Y. 317 Days ENDS ON 29 10 1989 > BHK. Bal. Moon 0 Y. 134 Days: ANT. Bal. Ketu 22 Days: > SOOK Bal. Sun. 0 Days > > CUSP Sgl Stl Sbl Ssl :PLANET Sgl Stl Sbl SsL > ASC Sun Ven Sat Mer :SUN. Jup Ket Ven Moo > 2nd Mer Moo Ket Moo :MOON Jup Mer Moo Ket > 3rd Ven Jup Jup Sat :MARS Jup Ven Mer Jup > 4th Mar Mer Sun Jup :MERC Mar Mer Moo Ven > 5th Jup Ven Sat Moo :JUP. Mer Moo Jup Mer > 6th Sat Mar Mar Jup :VEN. Mar Sat Sat Moo > 7th Sat Jup Sat Mer :SAT. Mer Moo Jup Mar > 8th Jup Mer Ven Moo :RAHU Moo Mer Ven Moo > 9th Mar Ven Jup Jup :KETU Sat Moo Ket Ven > 10th Ven Moo Ven Jup :URAN Mar Sat Sat Ven > 11th Mer Jup Sat Moo :NEPT Mar Mer Sat Sun > 12th Moo Mer Mar Jup :FOR. Jup Ven Ven Moo > :PLUT Ven Mar Mer Ket > > Another case-study to identify the time of marriage: > ==================================================== > > Identify whether marriage is promised ? > > Ans: sublord of 7th cusp is Saturn in the moon's constellation at 1st > house. > Saturn's sublord is Jupiter which is also in the first house. > > MY QUESTIONS: > > 1) Is the sublord of the 7th cusp the only factor to evaluate > whether marriage is promised or not ? > 2) IN this case, the sublord is not well placed?Does this mean > that this lady will not be married at all ? To be more specific, can > some one explain in this case, which factors tell us that marriage is > promised ? > 3) I did not consider the aspects of planets in this case. Can > someone help me in explaining how I should handle aspects in this > particular case ? For eg, in this case, Sat and Jup are cojoined in > the first house. What should I infer ? > > OK?Assuming that marriage is promised, I proceed further?. > > > Identify the significators for marriage ? > > 2nd house - occupied by none > owned by Mercury. > > 7th house - occupied by none owned by Saturn. > 11th house - occupied by Rahu owned by mercury. > > Currently this female is running Venus dasa, mars bukti till 12th feb > 2004. Then till feb 12th 2007, she has venus dasa rahu bukti. > > I presume her marriage should happen in this timeframe?but do not > know how to justify it?.Can someone help me dissect my analysis to > further granularity ? > > Thanks a lot, > > Luv..luvies, > > Suresh. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2003 Report Share Posted March 20, 2003 Dear Suresh, I am glad to hear from you. ------------------------------ ) Your statement that " ASPECTS ARE JUST LIKE THE PRASHARI PRINCIPLE. " seems to differ from what KP has to say in the readers. In the KP first reader, he mentions that Hindu system of aspects talk about aspects from sign to sign whereas he endorses western system of aspect which depends on the longitudinal distance between the planets. Have I misunderstood your statement ? SURESH IF YOU CAN SEND ME THE ASPECTS RULE IN WESTERN SYSTEM FORM THE FIRST READER I WILL BE GRATE FUL AND PLS QUOTE WHAT MR. KSK HAS SAID ABOUT THOSE ASPECTS. I WILL WAIT FOR IT. ) I have stopped working on charts and am going back to basics. As I read the six readers again and again, I end up having lots of unanswered questions. I plan to post my doubts in a seperate thread so that we do not mix up analysis of charts with clearing the doubts. CORRECT. PLS POST YOUR DOUBTS WE WILL ALL TRY TP CLEAR IT AND IN TURN LEARN FROM IT. -------------------------------- I am posting your querry answer tommorw. pls check your mail tommorw night or day after tommrow . regards. Anurodh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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