Football World Cup - FINAL: France v Italy

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Hello dear Jorge

 

I agree. Moon L 1 and Sun L 2 are both weak in chart of France. The rising transit planets are all weak from this. Italy is running strong Moon instead which supports those, includign this important saturn. Its running both better transits and periods.

 

On a side note, I've seen chinese astrologers predicting before the start that the chinese animal year was similar to the years either Brazil or Italy won. Italy remains.

 

I think that Italy will win.

Let us see,

Pierre

 

 

-

Jorge Angelino

SAMVA

Friday, July 07, 2006 5:52 AM

FW: Football World Cup - FINAL: France v Italy

 

 

 

 

SUNDAY 9 JULY(Final, 19:00 BST)

France dasha: Sa/Ma/Sa/Ve/Sa

 

Transit Jupiter afflicts natal Jupiter. Transit Mars is afflicted by natal Ketu. Transit Saturn is weakly disposed. Natal Saturn afflicts transit Venus.

 

Italy dasha: Ra/Sa/Sa/Mo/Sa

 

 

Italy seems to be the winner, as it runs a better sub-period.

The table below lists the winner, runner-up, scoreline and host country from 1930 to date.

World Cup Winners

 

 

 

 

Year

 

Winner

 

Score

 

Runner Up

 

Host

 

 

1930

 

Uruguay

 

4-2

 

Argentine

 

Uruguay

 

 

1934

 

Italy

 

2-1

 

Czechoslovakia

 

Italy

 

 

1938

 

Italy

 

4-2

 

Hungary

 

France

 

 

1950

 

Uruguay

 

2-1

 

Brazil

 

Brazil

 

 

1954

 

Germany

 

3-2

 

Hungary

 

Switzerland

 

 

1958

 

Brazil

 

5-2

 

Sweden

 

Sweden

 

 

1962

 

Brazil

 

3-1

 

Czechoslovakia

 

Chile

 

 

1966

 

England

 

4-2

 

Germany

 

England

 

 

1970

 

Brazil

 

4-1

 

Italy

 

Mexico

 

 

1974

 

Germany

 

2-1

 

Netherlands

 

Germany

 

 

1978

 

Argentine

 

3-1

 

Netherlands

 

Argentine

 

 

1982

 

Italy

 

3-1

 

Germany

 

Spain

 

 

1986

 

Argentine

 

3-2

 

Germany

 

Mexico

 

 

1990

 

Germany

 

1-0

 

Argentine

 

Italy

 

 

1994

 

Brazil

 

3-2

 

Italy

 

USA

 

 

1998

 

France

 

3-0

 

Brazil

 

France

 

 

2002

 

Brazil

 

2-0

 

Germany

 

Korea/Japan

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Vyas Munidasdomingo, 2 de Julho de 2006 07:04SAMVA Subject: Re: Football World Cup

 

 

 

 

Dear Jorge (and list),I'd love to hear everyone's opinion on the outcome, especially the good Professor. I'll pitch my two cents once I've had a chance to look at the charts.Here's the schedule:TUESDAY 4 JULYGermany v Italy (semi-final, 20:00 BST)WEDNESDAY 5 JULYPortugal v France (semi-final, 20:00 BST)SUNDAY 9 JULY(Final, 19:00 BST)Best regards,Vyas Munidas- "Jorge Angelino" <jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt><SAMVA >Saturday, July 01, 2006 5:37 PMFW: Football World CupDear List,My reasoning was due to the fact of Mars, L2, being over the MEP5, in Brazil rectified chart.But the fact of Jupiter being stronger in the France rectified chart decided the result.Best wishes,JorgeJorge Angelino [jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt]sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 21:11'SAMVA 'RE: Football World CupBrazil will winBest wishes,JorgeSAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Vyas Munidassábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 20:12SAMVA Subject: Re: Football World CupGood work Jorge!Brazil vs France next, what's your take?Best regards,Vyas Munidas- "Jorge Angelino" <HYPERLINK "jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt"jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt><HYPERLINK "SAMVA%40"SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com>Saturday, July 01, 2006 1:47 PMFW: Football World CupDear List,SA works ALWAYS!!!We should be always grateful for that.Best wishes,JorgeJorge Angelino [HYPERLINK "jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt"jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt]sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 06:17HYPERLINK "%27SAMVA%40"'SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com'RE: Football World CupGood idea Pierre!NEXT WORLD CUP GAME: Saturday 1 July - England v Portugal 1600 BSTDasha: Ma/Ra/Ra/Ve/-MaDasha: Ju/Ve/Sa/Ju/-MaAmong many other influences, both have L12 over MEP10, but in England theaffliction is exact weakening transit Jupiter.Portugal will win as transit Jupiter and Venus are strong.Best wishes,JorgeHYPERLINK "SAMVA%40"SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com [HYPERLINK "SAMVA%40"SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com] On Behalf Ofpierre touchardsábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 00:23HYPERLINK "SAMVA%40"SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com Football World CupOk folks,How about something fun... Nobody loves football here ?I am having a little fun predicting cup matches. Using SA classics Ipredicted (to my wife) that, for a start, France would win against its lasttwo opponents, Togo and Spain, despite the general feeling that Spain wouldwin. Tomorow I think that Brasil will beat France.Of course, I put all feelings aside. Only astrology, no sentiments..-..Lets have your bets, folks, what are you, astrologers ?Pierre T

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My dear

Pierre,

 

In Chinese Astrology, the same animal year

repeats every 12 years. In Vedic Astrology, Jupiter returns to its natal placement

every 12 years.

 

Looking to Italy rectified chart:

Final

 

 

 

June 10, 1934

17:00

 

 

 

 

 

 

Czechoslovakia

 

 

1–2

(AET)

 

 

Italy

 

 

 

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1934_FIFA_World_Cup

 

Final

 

 

 

June 19, 1938

17:00

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hungary

 

 

2–4

 

 

Italy

 

 

 

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1938_FIFA_World_Cup

 

Final

 

 

 

July 11, 1982

20:00

 

 

 

 

 

 

Italy

 

 

3–1

 

 

West Germany

 

 

 

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1982_FIFA_World_Cup

 

We can see that transit Jupiter has been

in different houses. It seems that every match is unique in itself.

 

But a deeper study of all the different matchs

since 1930 would give us added expertise in predicting this kind of events.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On Behalf Of pierre

touchard

sexta-feira, 7 de Julho de

2006 22:59

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Re: Football

World Cup - FINAL: France v Italy

 

 

 

 



 

 

 

Hello dear Jorge

 

 

 

 

 

I agree. Moon L 1 and Sun L 2

are both weak in chart of France. The rising transit planets are

all weak from this. Italy is running strong Moon instead which supports

those, includign this important saturn. Its running both better transits

and periods.

 

 

 

 

 

On a side note, I've seen

chinese astrologers predicting before the start that the chinese animal year

was similar to the years either Brazil or Italy won. Italy

remains.

 

 

 

 

 

I think that Italy will win.

 

 

Let us see,

 

 

Pierre

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

 

Jorge Angelino

 

 

SAMVA

 

 

 

Friday,

July 07, 2006 5:52 AM

 

 

FW:

Football World Cup - FINAL: France v Italy

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SUNDAY 9 JULY

(Final, 19:00 BST)

France dasha: Sa/Ma/Sa/Ve/Sa

 

Transit

Jupiter afflicts natal Jupiter. Transit Mars is afflicted by natal Ketu. Transit Saturn is weakly disposed. Natal

Saturn afflicts transit Venus.

 

Italy dasha: Ra/Sa/Sa/Mo/Sa

 

 

Italy

seems to be the winner, as it runs a better sub-period.

The table below lists the winner, runner-up, scoreline

and host country from 1930 to date.

World Cup Winners

 

 

 

 

Year

 

 

Winner

 

 

Score

 

 

Runner Up

 

 

Host

 

 

 

 

1930

 

 

Uruguay

 

 

4-2

 

 

Argentine

 

 

Uruguay

 

 

 

 

1934

 

 

Italy

 

 

2-1

 

 

Czechoslovakia

 

 

Italy

 

 

 

 

1938

 

 

Italy

 

 

4-2

 

 

Hungary

 

 

France

 

 

 

 

1950

 

 

Uruguay

 

 

2-1

 

 

Brazil

 

 

Brazil

 

 

 

 

1954

 

 

Germany

 

 

3-2

 

 

Hungary

 

 

Switzerland

 

 

 

 

1958

 

 

Brazil

 

 

5-2

 

 

Sweden

 

 

Sweden

 

 

 

 

1962

 

 

Brazil

 

 

3-1

 

 

Czechoslovakia

 

 

Chile

 

 

 

 

1966

 

 

England

 

 

4-2

 

 

Germany

 

 

England

 

 

 

 

1970

 

 

Brazil

 

 

4-1

 

 

Italy

 

 

Mexico

 

 

 

 

1974

 

 

Germany

 

 

2-1

 

 

Netherlands

 

 

Germany

 

 

 

 

1978

 

 

Argentine

 

 

3-1

 

 

Netherlands

 

 

Argentine

 

 

 

 

1982

 

 

Italy

 

 

3-1

 

 

Germany

 

 

Spain

 

 

 

 

1986

 

 

Argentine

 

 

3-2

 

 

Germany

 

 

Mexico

 

 

 

 

1990

 

 

Germany

 

 

1-0

 

 

Argentine

 

 

Italy

 

 

 

 

1994

 

 

Brazil

 

 

3-2

 

 

Italy

 

 

USA

 

 

 

 

1998

 

 

France

 

 

3-0

 

 

Brazil

 

 

France

 

 

 

 

2002

 

 

Brazil

 

 

2-0

 

 

Germany

 

 

Korea/Japan

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best

wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Vyas

Munidas

domingo, 2 de Julho de 2006

07:04

SAMVA

Re: Football

World Cup

 

 

 

 

Dear Jorge (and list),

 

I'd love to hear everyone's opinion on the outcome, especially the good

Professor. I'll pitch my two cents once I've had a chance to look at the

charts.

 

Here's the schedule:

 

TUESDAY 4 JULY

Germany v Italy (semi-final, 20:00 BST)

 

WEDNESDAY 5 JULY

Portugal v France (semi-final, 20:00 BST)

 

SUNDAY 9 JULY

(Final, 19:00 BST)

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

 

-

" Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt>

<SAMVA >

Saturday, July 01, 2006 5:37 PM

FW: Football World Cup

 

Dear List,

 

My reasoning was due to the fact of Mars, L2, being over the MEP5, in Brazil

rectified chart.

 

But the fact of Jupiter being stronger in the France rectified chart decided

the result.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

Jorge Angelino [jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt]

sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 21:11

'SAMVA '

RE: Football World Cup

 

Brazil will win

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ]

On Behalf Of Vyas

Munidas

sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 20:12

SAMVA

Re: Football World Cup

 

Good work Jorge!

 

Brazil vs France next, what's your take?

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

 

-

" Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK

" jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt>

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Saturday, July 01, 2006 1:47 PM

FW: Football World Cup

 

Dear List,

 

SA works ALWAYS!!!

 

We should be always grateful for that.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

Jorge Angelino [HYPERLINK

" jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt]

sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 06:17

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Good idea Pierre!

 

NEXT WORLD CUP GAME: Saturday 1 July - England v Portugal 1600 BST

 

Dasha: Ma/Ra/Ra/Ve/-Ma

 

Dasha: Ju/Ve/Sa/Ju/-Ma

 

Among many other influences, both have L12 over MEP10, but in England the

affliction is exact weakening transit Jupiter.

 

Portugal will win as transit Jupiter and Venus are strong.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

HYPERLINK " SAMVA%40 " SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com

 

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Football World Cup

 



 

Ok folks,

 

How about something fun... Nobody loves football here ?

 

I am having a little fun predicting cup matches. Using SA classics I

predicted (to my wife) that, for a start, France would win against its last

two opponents, Togo and Spain, despite the general feeling that Spain would

win. Tomorow I think that Brasil will beat France.

 

Of course, I put all feelings aside. Only astrology, no sentiments..-..

 

Lets have your bets, folks, what are you, astrologers ?

 

Pierre T

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hello my dear Jorge,

 

Wish you best of luck for your prediction.

 

To me the planetary influences of France look for a win as seen from the rectified charts. There are the following reasons for this:

 

1. Sub period lord Mars is strong in the natal chart of France.

 

2. The transit Venus ruling mental happiness in the chart of Finance is strongly placed in the house of gains.

 

3. Transit nodes severely afflict the natal combust and debilitated Mercury and the Sun in the chart of Italy.

 

4. Transit Ketu severely afflict the weak natal Moon in the chart of Italy.

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

-

Jorge Angelino

SAMVA

Friday, July 07, 2006 3:22 PM

FW: Football World Cup - FINAL: France v Italy

 

 

SUNDAY 9 JULY(Final, 19:00 BST)

France dasha: Sa/Ma/Sa/Ve/Sa

 

Transit Jupiter afflicts natal Jupiter. Transit Mars is afflicted by natal Ketu. Transit Saturn is weakly disposed. Natal Saturn afflicts transit Venus.

 

Italy dasha: Ra/Sa/Sa/Mo/Sa

 

 

Italy seems to be the winner, as it runs a better sub-period.

The table below lists the winner, runner-up, scoreline and host country from 1930 to date.

World Cup Winners

 

 

 

 

 

Year

 

Winner

 

Score

 

Runner Up

 

Host

 

 

1930

 

Uruguay

 

4-2

 

Argentine

 

Uruguay

 

 

1934

 

Italy

 

2-1

 

Czechoslovakia

 

Italy

 

 

1938

 

Italy

 

4-2

 

Hungary

 

France

 

 

1950

 

Uruguay

 

2-1

 

Brazil

 

Brazil

 

 

1954

 

Germany

 

3-2

 

Hungary

 

Switzerland

 

 

1958

 

Brazil

 

5-2

 

Sweden

 

Sweden

 

 

1962

 

Brazil

 

3-1

 

Czechoslovakia

 

Chile

 

 

1966

 

England

 

4-2

 

Germany

 

England

 

 

1970

 

Brazil

 

4-1

 

Italy

 

Mexico

 

 

1974

 

Germany

 

2-1

 

Netherlands

 

Germany

 

 

1978

 

Argentine

 

3-1

 

Netherlands

 

Argentine

 

 

1982

 

Italy

 

3-1

 

Germany

 

Spain

 

 

1986

 

Argentine

 

3-2

 

Germany

 

Mexico

 

 

1990

 

Germany

 

1-0

 

Argentine

 

Italy

 

 

1994

 

Brazil

 

3-2

 

Italy

 

USA

 

 

1998

 

France

 

3-0

 

Brazil

 

France

 

 

2002

 

Brazil

 

2-0

 

Germany

 

Korea/Japan

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Vyas Munidasdomingo, 2 de Julho de 2006 07:04SAMVA Subject: Re: Football World Cup

 

 

 

 

Dear Jorge (and list),I'd love to hear everyone's opinion on the outcome, especially the good Professor. I'll pitch my two cents once I've had a chance to look at the charts.Here's the schedule:TUESDAY 4 JULYGermany v Italy (semi-final, 20:00 BST)WEDNESDAY 5 JULYPortugal v France (semi-final, 20:00 BST)SUNDAY 9 JULY(Final, 19:00 BST)Best regards,Vyas Munidas- "Jorge Angelino" <jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt><SAMVA >Saturday, July 01, 2006 5:37 PMFW: Football World CupDear List,My reasoning was due to the fact of Mars, L2, being over the MEP5, in Brazil rectified chart.But the fact of Jupiter being stronger in the France rectified chart decided the result.Best wishes,JorgeJorge Angelino [jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt]sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 21:11'SAMVA 'RE: Football World CupBrazil will winBest wishes,JorgeSAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Vyas Munidassábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 20:12SAMVA Subject: Re: Football World CupGood work Jorge!Brazil vs France next, what's your take?Best regards,Vyas Munidas- "Jorge Angelino" <HYPERLINK "jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt"jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt><HYPERLINK "SAMVA%40"SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com>Saturday, July 01, 2006 1:47 PMFW: Football World CupDear List,SA works ALWAYS!!!We should be always grateful for that.Best wishes,JorgeJorge Angelino [HYPERLINK "jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt"jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt]sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 06:17HYPERLINK "%27SAMVA%40"'SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com'RE: Football World CupGood idea Pierre!NEXT WORLD CUP GAME: Saturday 1 July - England v Portugal 1600 BSTDasha: Ma/Ra/Ra/Ve/-MaDasha: Ju/Ve/Sa/Ju/-MaAmong many other influences, both have L12 over MEP10, but in England theaffliction is exact weakening transit Jupiter.Portugal will win as transit Jupiter and Venus are strong.Best wishes,JorgeHYPERLINK "SAMVA%40"SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com [HYPERLINK "SAMVA%40"SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com] On Behalf Ofpierre touchardsábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 00:23HYPERLINK "SAMVA%40"SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com Football World CupOk folks,How about something fun... Nobody loves football here ?I am having a little fun predicting cup matches. Using SA classics Ipredicted (to my wife) that, for a start, France would win against its lasttwo opponents, Togo and Spain, despite the general feeling that Spain wouldwin. Tomorow I think that Brasil will beat France.Of course, I put all feelings aside. Only astrology, no sentiments..-..Lets have your bets, folks, what are you, astrologers ?Pierre T

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Dear Professor,

 

Thank you for your wonderful insights. My conclusion is the same. From

researching mass psychology, I believe that comparative mental happiness is

the key pivot.

 

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

 

 

 

-

<siha

<SAMVA >

Saturday, July 08, 2006 8:46 AM

Re: Football World Cup - FINAL: France v Italy

 

 

Hello my dear Jorge,

 

Wish you best of luck for your prediction.

 

To me the planetary influences of France look for a win as seen from the

rectified charts. There are the following reasons for this:

 

1. Sub period lord Mars is strong in the natal chart of France.

 

2. The transit Venus ruling mental happiness in the chart of Finance is

strongly placed in the house of gains.

 

3. Transit nodes severely afflict the natal combust and debilitated Mercury

and the Sun in the chart of Italy.

 

4. Transit Ketu severely afflict the weak natal Moon in the chart of Italy.

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

-

Jorge Angelino

SAMVA

Friday, July 07, 2006 3:22 PM

FW: Football World Cup - FINAL: France v Italy

 

 

SUNDAY 9 JULY

(Final, 19:00 BST)

 

France dasha: Sa/Ma/Sa/Ve/Sa

 

 

 

Transit Jupiter afflicts natal Jupiter. Transit Mars is afflicted by natal

Ketu. Transit Saturn is weakly disposed. Natal Saturn afflicts transit

Venus.

 

 

 

Italy dasha: Ra/Sa/Sa/Mo/Sa

 

 

 

 

 

Italy seems to be the winner, as it runs a better sub-period.

 

The table below lists the winner, runner-up, scoreline and host country

from 1930 to date.

 

World Cup Winners

 

Year

Winner

Score

Runner Up

Host

 

1930

Uruguay

4-2

Argentine

Uruguay

 

1934

Italy

2-1

Czechoslovakia

Italy

 

1938

Italy

4-2

Hungary

France

 

1950

Uruguay

2-1

Brazil

Brazil

 

1954

Germany

3-2

Hungary

Switzerland

 

1958

Brazil

5-2

Sweden

Sweden

 

1962

Brazil

3-1

Czechoslovakia

Chile

 

1966

England

4-2

Germany

England

 

1970

Brazil

4-1

Italy

Mexico

 

1974

Germany

2-1

Netherlands

Germany

 

1978

Argentine

3-1

Netherlands

Argentine

 

1982

Italy

3-1

Germany

Spain

 

1986

Argentine

3-2

Germany

Mexico

 

1990

Germany

1-0

Argentine

Italy

 

1994

Brazil

3-2

Italy

USA

 

1998

France

3-0

Brazil

France

 

2002

Brazil

2-0

Germany

Korea/Japan

 

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

Jorge

 

 

 

SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of

Vyas Munidas

domingo, 2 de Julho de 2006 07:04

SAMVA

Re: Football World Cup

 

 

 

Dear Jorge (and list),

 

I'd love to hear everyone's opinion on the outcome, especially the good

Professor. I'll pitch my two cents once I've had a chance to look at the

charts.

 

Here's the schedule:

 

TUESDAY 4 JULY

Germany v Italy (semi-final, 20:00 BST)

 

WEDNESDAY 5 JULY

Portugal v France (semi-final, 20:00 BST)

 

SUNDAY 9 JULY

(Final, 19:00 BST)

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

 

-

" Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino

<SAMVA >

Saturday, July 01, 2006 5:37 PM

FW: Football World Cup

 

Dear List,

 

My reasoning was due to the fact of Mars, L2, being over the MEP5, in

Brazil

rectified chart.

 

But the fact of Jupiter being stronger in the France rectified chart

decided

the result.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

Jorge Angelino [jorge.angelino]

sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 21:11

'SAMVA '

RE: Football World Cup

 

Brazil will win

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of

Vyas

Munidas

sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 20:12

SAMVA

Re: Football World Cup

 

Good work Jorge!

 

Brazil vs France next, what's your take?

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

 

-

" Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK

" jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt>

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Saturday, July 01, 2006 1:47 PM

FW: Football World Cup

 

Dear List,

 

SA works ALWAYS!!!

 

We should be always grateful for that.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

Jorge Angelino [HYPERLINK

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RE: Football World Cup

 

Good idea Pierre!

 

NEXT WORLD CUP GAME: Saturday 1 July - England v Portugal 1600 BST

 

Dasha: Ma/Ra/Ra/Ve/-Ma

 

Dasha: Ju/Ve/Sa/Ju/-Ma

 

Among many other influences, both have L12 over MEP10, but in England the

affliction is exact weakening transit Jupiter.

 

Portugal will win as transit Jupiter and Venus are strong.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

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Ok folks,

 

How about something fun... Nobody loves football here ?

 

I am having a little fun predicting cup matches. Using SA classics I

predicted (to my wife) that, for a start, France would win against its

last

two opponents, Togo and Spain, despite the general feeling that Spain

would

win. Tomorow I think that Brasil will beat France.

 

Of course, I put all feelings aside. Only astrology, no sentiments..-..

 

Lets have your bets, folks, what are you, astrologers ?

 

Pierre T

 

 

 

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My dear

Professor,

 

Wish you best of luck for your prediction

as well.

 

It is very good to have your opinion. Thanks

for sharing it with us.

 

The World Cup is fun and becomes an

excellent opportunity for the SAMVA list members to apply SA and learn from it.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On Behalf Of siha

sábado, 8 de Julho de 2006

13:47

SAMVA

Re: Football

World Cup - FINAL: France v Italy

 

 

 

 



 

 

 

Hello my dear Jorge,

 

 

 

 

 

Wish you best of luck for

your prediction.

 

 

 

 

 

To me the planetary

influences of France look for a win as seen from the rectified

charts. There are the following reasons for this:

 

 

 

 

 

1.

Sub period lord Mars is strong in the natal chart of France.

 

 

 

 

 

2.

The transit Venus ruling mental happiness in the chart of Finance is strongly

placed in the house of gains.

 

 

 

 

 

3.

Transit nodes severely afflict the natal combust and debilitated Mercury and

the Sun in the chart of Italy.

 

 

 

 

 

4.

Transit Ketu severely afflict the weak natal Moon in the chart of Italy.

 

 

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

 

Jorge Angelino

 

 

SAMVA

 

 

 

Friday,

July 07, 2006 3:22 PM

 

 

FW:

Football World Cup - FINAL: France v Italy

 

 

 

 

 

SUNDAY 9 JULY

(Final, 19:00 BST)

France dasha: Sa/Ma/Sa/Ve/Sa

 

Transit

Jupiter afflicts natal Jupiter. Transit Mars is afflicted by natal Ketu. Transit Saturn is weakly disposed. Natal

Saturn afflicts transit Venus.

 

Italy dasha: Ra/Sa/Sa/Mo/Sa

 

 

Italy seems

to be the winner, as it runs a better sub-period.

The table below lists the winner, runner-up, scoreline

and host country from 1930 to date.

World Cup Winners

 

 

 

 

Year

 

 

Winner

 

 

Score

 

 

Runner Up

 

 

Host

 

 

 

 

1930

 

 

Uruguay

 

 

4-2

 

 

Argentine

 

 

Uruguay

 

 

 

 

1934

 

 

Italy

 

 

2-1

 

 

Czechoslovakia

 

 

Italy

 

 

 

 

1938

 

 

Italy

 

 

4-2

 

 

Hungary

 

 

France

 

 

 

 

1950

 

 

Uruguay

 

 

2-1

 

 

Brazil

 

 

Brazil

 

 

 

 

1954

 

 

Germany

 

 

3-2

 

 

Hungary

 

 

Switzerland

 

 

 

 

1958

 

 

Brazil

 

 

5-2

 

 

Sweden

 

 

Sweden

 

 

 

 

1962

 

 

Brazil

 

 

3-1

 

 

Czechoslovakia

 

 

Chile

 

 

 

 

1966

 

 

England

 

 

4-2

 

 

Germany

 

 

England

 

 

 

 

1970

 

 

Brazil

 

 

4-1

 

 

Italy

 

 

Mexico

 

 

 

 

1974

 

 

Germany

 

 

2-1

 

 

Netherlands

 

 

Germany

 

 

 

 

1978

 

 

Argentine

 

 

3-1

 

 

Netherlands

 

 

Argentine

 

 

 

 

1982

 

 

Italy

 

 

3-1

 

 

Germany

 

 

Spain

 

 

 

 

1986

 

 

Argentine

 

 

3-2

 

 

Germany

 

 

Mexico

 

 

 

 

1990

 

 

Germany

 

 

1-0

 

 

Argentine

 

 

Italy

 

 

 

 

1994

 

 

Brazil

 

 

3-2

 

 

Italy

 

 

USA

 

 

 

 

1998

 

 

France

 

 

3-0

 

 

Brazil

 

 

France

 

 

 

 

2002

 

 

Brazil

 

 

2-0

 

 

Germany

 

 

Korea/Japan

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best

wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Vyas

Munidas

domingo, 2 de Julho de 2006

07:04

SAMVA

Re: Football

World Cup

 

 

 

 

Dear Jorge (and list),

 

I'd love to hear everyone's opinion on the outcome, especially the good

Professor. I'll pitch my two cents once I've had a chance to look at the

charts.

 

Here's the schedule:

 

TUESDAY 4 JULY

Germany v Italy (semi-final, 20:00 BST)

 

WEDNESDAY 5 JULY

Portugal v France (semi-final, 20:00 BST)

 

SUNDAY 9 JULY

(Final, 19:00 BST)

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

 

-

" Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt>

<SAMVA >

Saturday, July 01, 2006 5:37 PM

FW: Football World Cup

 

Dear List,

 

My reasoning was due to the fact of Mars, L2, being over the MEP5, in Brazil

rectified chart.

 

But the fact of Jupiter being stronger in the France rectified chart decided

the result.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

Jorge Angelino [jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt]

sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 21:11

'SAMVA '

RE: Football World Cup

 

Brazil will win

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ]

On Behalf Of Vyas

Munidas

sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 20:12

SAMVA

Re: Football World Cup

 

Good work Jorge!

 

Brazil vs France next, what's your take?

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

 

-

" Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK

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Saturday, July 01, 2006 1:47 PM

FW: Football World Cup

 

Dear List,

 

SA works ALWAYS!!!

 

We should be always grateful for that.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

Jorge Angelino [HYPERLINK

" jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt]

sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 06:17

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RE: Football World Cup

 

Good idea Pierre!

 

NEXT WORLD CUP GAME: Saturday 1 July - England v Portugal 1600 BST

 

Dasha: Ma/Ra/Ra/Ve/-Ma

 

Dasha: Ju/Ve/Sa/Ju/-Ma

 

Among many other influences, both have L12 over MEP10, but in England the

affliction is exact weakening transit Jupiter.

 

Portugal will win as transit Jupiter and Venus are strong.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

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sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 00:23

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Football World Cup

 



 

Ok folks,

 

How about something fun... Nobody loves football here ?

 

I am having a little fun predicting cup matches. Using SA classics I

predicted (to my wife) that, for a start, France would win against its last

two opponents, Togo and Spain, despite the general feeling that Spain would

win. Tomorow I think that Brasil will beat France.

 

Of course, I put all feelings aside. Only astrology, no sentiments..-..

 

Lets have your bets, folks, what are you, astrologers ?

 

Pierre T

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Jorge

 

Congratulations for your successful prediction about Germany Portugal

(Germany 3; Portugal 1).

 

All the best

 

Jo Cohen

 

-

" Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino

<SAMVA >

Saturday, July 08, 2006 8:26 PM

RE: Football World Cup - FINAL: France v Italy

 

 

My dear Professor,

 

 

 

Wish you best of luck for your prediction as well.

 

 

 

It is very good to have your opinion. Thanks for sharing it with us.

 

 

 

The World Cup is fun and becomes an excellent opportunity for the SAMVA list

members to apply SA and learn from it.

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of

siha

sábado, 8 de Julho de 2006 13:47

SAMVA

Re: Football World Cup - FINAL: France v Italy

 

 

 



 

Hello my dear Jorge,

 

 

 

Wish you best of luck for your prediction.

 

 

 

To me the planetary influences of France look for a win as seen from the

rectified charts. There are the following reasons for this:

 

 

 

1. Sub period lord Mars is strong in the natal chart of France.

 

 

 

2. The transit Venus ruling mental happiness in the chart of Finance is

strongly placed in the house of gains.

 

 

 

3. Transit nodes severely afflict the natal combust and debilitated Mercury

and the Sun in the chart of Italy.

 

 

 

4. Transit Ketu severely afflict the weak natal Moon in the chart of Italy.

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

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HYPERLINK " SAMVA " SAMVA

 

Friday, July 07, 2006 3:22 PM

 

FW: Football World Cup - FINAL: France v Italy

 

 

 

SUNDAY 9 JULY

(Final, 19:00 BST)

 

France dasha: Sa/Ma/Sa/Ve/Sa

 

 

 

Transit Jupiter afflicts natal Jupiter. Transit Mars is afflicted by natal

Ketu. Transit Saturn is weakly disposed. Natal Saturn afflicts transit

Venus.

 

 

 

Italy dasha: Ra/Sa/Sa/Mo/Sa

 

 

 

 

 

Italy seems to be the winner, as it runs a better sub-period.

 

The table below lists the winner, runner-up, scoreline and host country from

1930 to date.

 

World Cup Winners

 

 

Year

 

Winner

 

Score

 

Runner Up

 

Host

 

 

1930

 

Uruguay

 

4-2

 

Argentine

 

Uruguay

 

 

1934

 

Italy

 

2-1

 

Czechoslovakia

 

Italy

 

 

1938

 

Italy

 

4-2

 

Hungary

 

France

 

 

1950

 

Uruguay

 

2-1

 

Brazil

 

Brazil

 

 

1954

 

Germany

 

3-2

 

Hungary

 

Switzerland

 

 

1958

 

Brazil

 

5-2

 

Sweden

 

Sweden

 

 

1962

 

Brazil

 

3-1

 

Czechoslovakia

 

Chile

 

 

1966

 

England

 

4-2

 

Germany

 

England

 

 

1970

 

Brazil

 

4-1

 

Italy

 

Mexico

 

 

1974

 

Germany

 

2-1

 

Netherlands

 

Germany

 

 

1978

 

Argentine

 

3-1

 

Netherlands

 

Argentine

 

 

1982

 

Italy

 

3-1

 

Germany

 

Spain

 

 

1986

 

Argentine

 

3-2

 

Germany

 

Mexico

 

 

1990

 

Germany

 

1-0

 

Argentine

 

Italy

 

 

1994

 

Brazil

 

3-2

 

Italy

 

USA

 

 

1998

 

France

 

3-0

 

Brazil

 

France

 

 

2002

 

Brazil

 

2-0

 

Germany

 

Korea/Japan

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Vyas

Munidas

domingo, 2 de Julho de 2006 07:04

SAMVA

Re: Football World Cup

 

 

 

Dear Jorge (and list),

 

I'd love to hear everyone's opinion on the outcome, especially the good

Professor. I'll pitch my two cents once I've had a chance to look at the

charts.

 

Here's the schedule:

 

TUESDAY 4 JULY

Germany v Italy (semi-final, 20:00 BST)

 

WEDNESDAY 5 JULY

Portugal v France (semi-final, 20:00 BST)

 

SUNDAY 9 JULY

(Final, 19:00 BST)

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

 

-

" Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK

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Saturday, July 01, 2006 5:37 PM

FW: Football World Cup

 

Dear List,

 

My reasoning was due to the fact of Mars, L2, being over the MEP5, in Brazil

rectified chart.

 

But the fact of Jupiter being stronger in the France rectified chart decided

the result.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

Jorge Angelino [HYPERLINK

" jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt]

sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 21:11

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RE: Football World Cup

 

Brazil will win

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

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Munidas

sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 20:12

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Re: Football World Cup

 

Good work Jorge!

 

Brazil vs France next, what's your take?

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

 

-

" Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK

" jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt>

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Saturday, July 01, 2006 1:47 PM

FW: Football World Cup

 

Dear List,

 

SA works ALWAYS!!!

 

We should be always grateful for that.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

Jorge Angelino [HYPERLINK

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sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 06:17

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RE: Football World Cup

 

Good idea Pierre!

 

NEXT WORLD CUP GAME: Saturday 1 July - England v Portugal 1600 BST

 

Dasha: Ma/Ra/Ra/Ve/--Ma

 

Dasha: Ju/Ve/Sa/Ju/--Ma

 

Among many other influences, both have L12 over MEP10, but in England the

affliction is exact weakening transit Jupiter.

 

Portugal will win as transit Jupiter and Venus are strong.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

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Football World Cup

 



 

Ok folks,

 

How about something fun... Nobody loves football here ?

 

I am having a little fun predicting cup matches. Using SA classics I

predicted (to my wife) that, for a start, France would win against its last

two opponents, Togo and Spain, despite the general feeling that Spain would

win. Tomorow I think that Brasil will beat France.

 

Of course, I put all feelings aside. Only astrology, no sentiments..--..

 

Lets have your bets, folks, what are you, astrologers ?

 

Pierre T

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Hello to everyone

 

As seen in the natal charts showed by Jorge to me the planetary

influences of Italy look for a win

France's horoscope

 

1) It is true that the sub period of Mars as a yogakaraka is

strong because is the lord of 10th in 11th (gains) but is afflicted

by Saturn lord of the 8th house in the natal chart of france.

2) The moon (mind of people) is in 12th house (loses) in natal

chart, in transit the moon is in Sagittarius in 6th and aspects the

12th and the Sun in transit is in the 12th house from lagna, this

activates the 12th house, the transit of Sun is activated because

Mars as a yogakaraka is situated in Krittika (sun) and the transit

of the moon in Sagittarius makes more sensitive the house of loses.

3) Saturn transits lagna as lord of the 8th in natal chart,

Mercury transits lagna as lord of 12th in natal chart, this means

that france will be blocked.

4) Some times when the Sun transits chandra lagna indicates

that is a month of a good opportunity to win something big, but

usually all is an illusion. The transit in 12th house indicates that

should lose something.

5) Mars transits lagna as a yogakaraka (good) but is afflicted

by Rahu, Mercury (L12th) and Saturn (L8) in transit, this means that

is not strong enough

 

Italy's horoscope

 

1) Saturn sub period occupies the 10th (good) yet not is strong

enough as a L3 and L4

2) The 3th house falls in Capricorn in the natal chart of Italy

and is the 6th from the 10th house and rules the opponent (france)

is afflicted by Saturn, Mars and Mercury lords of malefic houses

3) The moon (mind of people) in natal chart is in Taurus and

Venus in transits makes a conjunct indicating mental happiness for

the Italians, the moon is not afflicted, Ketu does not aspect

because does not have eyes.

4) The sub period of Saturn activates Ketu because Saturn

occupies Makha (Ketu) and Ketu in transit ocupies the 11th (gains).

Ketu acts like Mars in Aries (good) and Mercury in trine house in

natal chart and in transit (good)

 

It seems that Italy wins

 

let's see

 

Best Wishes

 

Ramanuja das

 

SAMVA , " pierre touchard " <pierretouchard

wrote:

>

> Hello dear Jorge

>

> I agree. Moon L 1 and Sun L 2 are both weak in chart of France.

The rising transit planets are all weak from this. Italy is running

strong Moon instead which supports those, includign this important

saturn. Its running both better transits and periods.

>

> On a side note, I've seen chinese astrologers predicting before

the start that the chinese animal year was similar to the years

either Brazil or Italy won. Italy remains.

>

> I think that Italy will win.

> Let us see,

> Pierre

>

> -

> Jorge Angelino

> SAMVA

> Friday, July 07, 2006 5:52 AM

> FW: Football World Cup - FINAL: France v Italy

>

>

>

> SUNDAY 9 JULY

> (Final, 19:00 BST)

>

> France dasha: Sa/Ma/Sa/Ve/Sa

>

>

>

> Transit Jupiter afflicts natal Jupiter. Transit Mars is

afflicted by natal Ketu. Transit Saturn is weakly disposed. Natal

Saturn afflicts transit Venus.

>

>

>

> Italy dasha: Ra/Sa/Sa/Mo/Sa

>

>

>

>

>

> Italy seems to be the winner, as it runs a better sub-period.

>

> The table below lists the winner, runner-up, scoreline and host

country from 1930 to date.

>

> World Cup Winners

>

> Year

> Winner

> Score

> Runner Up

> Host

>

> 1930

> Uruguay

> 4-2

> Argentine

> Uruguay

>

> 1934

> Italy

> 2-1

> Czechoslovakia

> Italy

>

> 1938

> Italy

> 4-2

> Hungary

> France

>

> 1950

> Uruguay

> 2-1

> Brazil

> Brazil

>

> 1954

> Germany

> 3-2

> Hungary

> Switzerland

>

> 1958

> Brazil

> 5-2

> Sweden

> Sweden

>

> 1962

> Brazil

> 3-1

> Czechoslovakia

> Chile

>

> 1966

> England

> 4-2

> Germany

> England

>

> 1970

> Brazil

> 4-1

> Italy

> Mexico

>

> 1974

> Germany

> 2-1

> Netherlands

> Germany

>

> 1978

> Argentine

> 3-1

> Netherlands

> Argentine

>

> 1982

> Italy

> 3-1

> Germany

> Spain

>

> 1986

> Argentine

> 3-2

> Germany

> Mexico

>

> 1990

> Germany

> 1-0

> Argentine

> Italy

>

> 1994

> Brazil

> 3-2

> Italy

> USA

>

> 1998

> France

> 3-0

> Brazil

> France

>

> 2002

> Brazil

> 2-0

> Germany

> Korea/Japan

>

>

>

>

> Best wishes,

>

>

>

> Jorge

>

>

>

>

> SAMVA [sAMVA ] On

Behalf Of Vyas Munidas

> domingo, 2 de Julho de 2006 07:04

> SAMVA

> Re: Football World Cup

>

>

>

> Dear Jorge (and list),

>

> I'd love to hear everyone's opinion on the outcome, especially

the good

> Professor. I'll pitch my two cents once I've had a chance to

look at the

> charts.

>

> Here's the schedule:

>

> TUESDAY 4 JULY

> Germany v Italy (semi-final, 20:00 BST)

>

> WEDNESDAY 5 JULY

> Portugal v France (semi-final, 20:00 BST)

>

> SUNDAY 9 JULY

> (Final, 19:00 BST)

>

> Best regards,

>

> Vyas Munidas

>

> -

> " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino

> <SAMVA >

> Saturday, July 01, 2006 5:37 PM

> FW: Football World Cup

>

> Dear List,

>

> My reasoning was due to the fact of Mars, L2, being over the

MEP5, in Brazil

> rectified chart.

>

> But the fact of Jupiter being stronger in the France rectified

chart decided

> the result.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Jorge

>

>

> Jorge Angelino [jorge.angelino]

> sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 21:11

> 'SAMVA '

> RE: Football World Cup

>

> Brazil will win

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Jorge

>

>

> SAMVA [sAMVA ] On

Behalf Of Vyas

> Munidas

> sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 20:12

> SAMVA

> Re: Football World Cup

>

> Good work Jorge!

>

> Brazil vs France next, what's your take?

>

> Best regards,

>

> Vyas Munidas

>

> -

> " Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK

> " jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino

> <HYPERLINK " SAMVA%40 " SAMVA

> Saturday, July 01, 2006 1:47 PM

> FW: Football World Cup

>

> Dear List,

>

> SA works ALWAYS!!!

>

> We should be always grateful for that.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Jorge

>

>

> Jorge Angelino [HYPERLINK

> " jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino]

> sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 06:17

> HYPERLINK " %27SAMVA%40 " 'SAMVA'

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>

> Good idea Pierre!

>

> NEXT WORLD CUP GAME: Saturday 1 July - England v Portugal 1600

BST

>

> Dasha: Ma/Ra/Ra/Ve/-Ma

>

> Dasha: Ju/Ve/Sa/Ju/-Ma

>

> Among many other influences, both have L12 over MEP10, but in

England the

> affliction is exact weakening transit Jupiter.

>

> Portugal will win as transit Jupiter and Venus are strong.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Jorge

>

>

> HYPERLINK " SAMVA%40 " SAMVA

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> sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 00:23

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>

> 

>

> Ok folks,

>

> How about something fun... Nobody loves football here ?

>

> I am having a little fun predicting cup matches. Using SA

classics I

> predicted (to my wife) that, for a start, France would win

against its last

> two opponents, Togo and Spain, despite the general feeling that

Spain would

> win. Tomorow I think that Brasil will beat France.

>

> Of course, I put all feelings aside. Only astrology, no

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>

> Lets have your bets, folks, what are you, astrologers ?

>

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Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

SAMVA

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Cohen

sábado, 8 de Julho de 2006

21:54

SAMVA

Re: Football

World Cup - FINAL: France v Italy

 

 

 

 

Dear Jorge

 

Congratulations for your successful prediction about Germany Portugal

(Germany 3; Portugal 1).

 

All the best

 

Jo Cohen

 

-

" Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt>

<SAMVA >

Saturday, July 08, 2006 8:26 PM

RE: Football World Cup - FINAL: France v Italy

 

My dear Professor,

 

Wish you best of luck for your prediction as well.

 

It is very good to have your opinion. Thanks for sharing it with us.

 

The World Cup is fun and becomes an excellent opportunity for the SAMVA list

members to apply SA and learn from it.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ]

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siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com

sábado, 8 de Julho de 2006 13:47

SAMVA

Re: Football World Cup - FINAL: France v Italy

 



 

Hello my dear Jorge,

 

Wish you best of luck for your prediction.

 

To me the planetary influences of France look for a win as seen from the

rectified charts. There are the following reasons for this:

 

1. Sub period lord Mars is strong in the natal chart of France.

 

2. The transit Venus ruling mental happiness in the chart of Finance is

strongly placed in the house of gains.

 

3. Transit nodes severely afflict the natal combust and debilitated Mercury

and the Sun in the chart of Italy.

 

4. Transit Ketu severely afflict the weak natal Moon in the chart of Italy.

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

-

 

HYPERLINK " jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt " Jorge

Angelino

 

HYPERLINK " SAMVA " SAMVA

 

Friday, July 07, 2006 3:22 PM

 

FW: Football World Cup - FINAL: France v Italy

 

SUNDAY 9 JULY

(Final, 19:00 BST)

 

France dasha: Sa/Ma/Sa/Ve/Sa

 

Transit Jupiter afflicts natal Jupiter. Transit Mars is afflicted by natal

Ketu. Transit Saturn is weakly disposed. Natal Saturn afflicts transit

Venus.

 

Italy dasha: Ra/Sa/Sa/Mo/Sa

 

Italy seems to be the winner, as it runs a better sub-period.

 

The table below lists the winner, runner-up, scoreline and host country from

1930 to date.

 

World Cup Winners

 

Year

 

Winner

 

Score

 

Runner Up

 

Host

 

1930

 

Uruguay

 

4-2

 

Argentine

 

Uruguay

 

1934

 

Italy

 

2-1

 

Czechoslovakia

 

Italy

 

1938

 

Italy

 

4-2

 

Hungary

 

France

 

1950

 

Uruguay

 

2-1

 

Brazil

 

Brazil

 

1954

 

Germany

 

3-2

 

Hungary

 

Switzerland

 

1958

 

Brazil

 

5-2

 

Sweden

 

Sweden

 

1962

 

Brazil

 

3-1

 

Czechoslovakia

 

Chile

 

1966

 

England

 

4-2

 

Germany

 

England

 

1970

 

Brazil

 

4-1

 

Italy

 

Mexico

 

1974

 

Germany

 

2-1

 

Netherlands

 

Germany

 

1978

 

Argentine

 

3-1

 

Netherlands

 

Argentine

 

1982

 

Italy

 

3-1

 

Germany

 

Spain

 

1986

 

Argentine

 

3-2

 

Germany

 

Mexico

 

1990

 

Germany

 

1-0

 

Argentine

 

Italy

 

1994

 

Brazil

 

3-2

 

Italy

 

USA

 

1998

 

France

 

3-0

 

Brazil

 

France

 

2002

 

Brazil

 

2-0

 

Germany

 

Korea/Japan

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ]

On Behalf Of Vyas

Munidas

domingo, 2 de Julho de 2006 07:04

SAMVA

Re: Football World Cup

 

Dear Jorge (and list),

 

I'd love to hear everyone's opinion on the outcome, especially the good

Professor. I'll pitch my two cents once I've had a chance to look at the

charts.

 

Here's the schedule:

 

TUESDAY 4 JULY

Germany v Italy (semi-final, 20:00 BST)

 

WEDNESDAY 5 JULY

Portugal v France (semi-final, 20:00 BST)

 

SUNDAY 9 JULY

(Final, 19:00 BST)

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

 

-

" Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK

" jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt>

<HYPERLINK " SAMVA%40 " SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com>

Saturday, July 01, 2006 5:37 PM

FW: Football World Cup

 

Dear List,

 

My reasoning was due to the fact of Mars, L2, being over the MEP5, in Brazil

rectified chart.

 

But the fact of Jupiter being stronger in the France rectified chart decided

the result.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

Jorge Angelino [HYPERLINK

" jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt]

sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 21:11

HYPERLINK " %27SAMVA%40 " 'SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com'

RE: Football World Cup

 

Brazil will win

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

HYPERLINK " SAMVA%40 " SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com

 

[HYPERLINK " SAMVA%40 " SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com]

On

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Munidas

sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 20:12

HYPERLINK " SAMVA%40 " SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com

Re: Football World Cup

 

Good work Jorge!

 

Brazil vs France next, what's your take?

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

 

-

" Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK

" jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt>

<HYPERLINK " SAMVA%-40.-com " SAMVA@-.--com>

Saturday, July 01, 2006 1:47 PM

FW: Football World Cup

 

Dear List,

 

SA works ALWAYS!!!

 

We should be always grateful for that.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

Jorge Angelino [HYPERLINK

" jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt]

sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 06:17

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" %27SAMVA%-40.-com " 'SAMVA@-.--com'

RE: Football World Cup

 

Good idea Pierre!

 

NEXT WORLD CUP GAME: Saturday 1 July - England v Portugal 1600 BST

 

Dasha: Ma/Ra/Ra/Ve/--Ma

 

Dasha: Ju/Ve/Sa/Ju/--Ma

 

Among many other influences, both have L12 over MEP10, but in England the

affliction is exact weakening transit Jupiter.

 

Portugal will win as transit Jupiter and Venus are strong.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

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sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 00:23

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Football World Cup

 



 

Ok folks,

 

How about something fun... Nobody loves football here ?

 

I am having a little fun predicting cup matches. Using SA classics I

predicted (to my wife) that, for a start, France would win against its last

two opponents, Togo and Spain, despite the general feeling that Spain would

win. Tomorow I think that Brasil will beat France.

 

Of course, I put all feelings aside. Only astrology, no sentiments..--..

 

Lets have your bets, folks, what are you, astrologers ?

 

Pierre T

 

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Dear Ramanuja

Das,

 

Thanks for sharing your views.

 

Let us see what happens tomorrow…

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Ramanuja

Das

sábado, 8 de Julho de 2006

22:43

SAMVA

Re: Football

World Cup - FINAL: France v Italy

 

 

 

 

Hello to everyone

 

As seen in the natal charts showed by Jorge to me the planetary

influences of Italy look for a win

France's horoscope

 

1) It is true that the sub period of Mars as a yogakaraka is

strong because is the lord of 10th in 11th (gains) but is afflicted

by Saturn lord of the 8th house in the natal chart of france.

2) The moon (mind of people) is in 12th house (loses) in natal

chart, in transit the moon is in Sagittarius in 6th and aspects the

12th and the Sun in transit is in the 12th house from lagna, this

activates the 12th house, the transit of Sun is activated because

Mars as a yogakaraka is situated in Krittika (sun) and the transit

of the moon in Sagittarius makes more sensitive the house of loses.

3) Saturn transits lagna as lord of the 8th in natal chart,

Mercury transits lagna as lord of 12th in natal chart, this means

that france will be blocked.

4) Some times when the Sun transits chandra lagna indicates

that is a month of a good opportunity to win something big, but

usually all is an illusion. The transit in 12th house indicates that

should lose something.

5) Mars transits lagna as a yogakaraka (good) but is afflicted

by Rahu, Mercury (L12th) and Saturn (L8) in transit, this means that

is not strong enough

 

Italy's horoscope

 

1) Saturn sub period occupies the 10th (good) yet not is strong

enough as a L3 and L4

2) The 3th house falls in Capricorn in the natal chart of Italy

and is the 6th from the 10th house and rules the opponent (france)

is afflicted by Saturn, Mars and Mercury lords of malefic houses

3) The moon (mind of people) in natal chart is in Taurus and

Venus in transits makes a conjunct indicating mental happiness for

the Italians, the moon is not afflicted, Ketu does not aspect

because does not have eyes.

4) The sub period of Saturn activates Ketu because Saturn

occupies Makha (Ketu) and Ketu in transit ocupies the 11th (gains).

Ketu acts like Mars in Aries (good) and Mercury in trine house in

natal chart and in transit (good)

 

It seems that Italy wins

 

let's see

 

Best Wishes

 

Ramanuja das

 

SAMVA ,

" pierre touchard " <pierretouchard

wrote:

>

> Hello dear Jorge

>

> I agree. Moon L 1 and Sun L 2 are both weak in chart of France.

The rising transit planets are all weak from this. Italy is running

strong Moon instead which supports those, includign this important

saturn. Its running both better transits and periods.

>

> On a side note, I've seen chinese astrologers predicting before

the start that the chinese animal year was similar to the years

either Brazil or Italy won. Italy remains.

>

> I think that Italy will win.

> Let us see,

> Pierre

>

> -

> Jorge Angelino

> SAMVA

 

> Friday, July 07, 2006 5:52 AM

> FW: Football World Cup - FINAL: France v Italy

>

>

>

> SUNDAY 9 JULY

> (Final, 19:00 BST)

>

> France dasha: Sa/Ma/Sa/Ve/Sa

>

>

>

> Transit Jupiter afflicts natal Jupiter. Transit Mars is

afflicted by natal Ketu. Transit Saturn is weakly disposed. Natal

Saturn afflicts transit Venus.

>

>

>

> Italy dasha: Ra/Sa/Sa/Mo/Sa

>

>

>

>

>

> Italy seems to be the winner, as it runs a better sub-period.

>

> The table below lists the winner, runner-up, scoreline and host

country from 1930 to date.

>

> World Cup Winners

>

> Year

> Winner

> Score

> Runner Up

> Host

>

> 1930

> Uruguay

> 4-2

> Argentine

> Uruguay

>

> 1934

> Italy

> 2-1

> Czechoslovakia

> Italy

>

> 1938

> Italy

> 4-2

> Hungary

> France

>

> 1950

> Uruguay

> 2-1

> Brazil

> Brazil

>

> 1954

> Germany

> 3-2

> Hungary

> Switzerland

>

> 1958

> Brazil

> 5-2

> Sweden

> Sweden

>

> 1962

> Brazil

> 3-1

> Czechoslovakia

> Chile

>

> 1966

> England

> 4-2

> Germany

> England

>

> 1970

> Brazil

> 4-1

> Italy

> Mexico

>

> 1974

> Germany

> 2-1

> Netherlands

> Germany

>

> 1978

> Argentine

> 3-1

> Netherlands

> Argentine

>

> 1982

> Italy

> 3-1

> Germany

> Spain

>

> 1986

> Argentine

> 3-2

> Germany

> Mexico

>

> 1990

> Germany

> 1-0

> Argentine

> Italy

>

> 1994

> Brazil

> 3-2

> Italy

> USA

>

> 1998

> France

> 3-0

> Brazil

> France

>

> 2002

> Brazil

> 2-0

> Germany

> Korea/Japan

>

>

>

>

> Best wishes,

>

>

>

> Jorge

>

>

>

>

> SAMVA

[sAMVA ]

On

Behalf Of Vyas Munidas

> domingo, 2 de Julho de 2006 07:04

> SAMVA

> Re: Football World Cup

>

>

>

> Dear Jorge (and list),

>

> I'd love to hear everyone's opinion on the outcome, especially

the good

> Professor. I'll pitch my two cents once I've had a chance to

look at the

> charts.

>

> Here's the schedule:

>

> TUESDAY 4 JULY

> Germany v Italy (semi-final, 20:00 BST)

>

> WEDNESDAY 5 JULY

> Portugal v France (semi-final, 20:00 BST)

>

> SUNDAY 9 JULY

> (Final, 19:00 BST)

>

> Best regards,

>

> Vyas Munidas

>

> -

> " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino

> <SAMVA >

> Saturday, July 01, 2006 5:37 PM

> FW: Football World Cup

>

> Dear List,

>

> My reasoning was due to the fact of Mars, L2, being over the

MEP5, in Brazil

> rectified chart.

>

> But the fact of Jupiter being stronger in the France rectified

chart decided

> the result.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Jorge

>

>

> Jorge Angelino [jorge.angelino]

> sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 21:11

> 'SAMVA '

> RE: Football World Cup

>

> Brazil will win

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Jorge

>

>

> SAMVA

[sAMVA ]

On

Behalf Of Vyas

> Munidas

> sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 20:12

> SAMVA

> Re: Football World Cup

>

> Good work Jorge!

>

> Brazil vs France next, what's your take?

>

> Best regards,

>

> Vyas Munidas

>

> -

> " Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK

> " jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino

> <HYPERLINK " SAMVA%40 " SAMVA

> Saturday, July 01, 2006 1:47 PM

> FW: Football World Cup

>

> Dear List,

>

> SA works ALWAYS!!!

>

> We should be always grateful for that.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Jorge

>

>

> Jorge Angelino [HYPERLINK

> " jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino]

> sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 06:17

> HYPERLINK " %27SAMVA%40 " 'SAMVA'

> RE: Football World Cup

>

> Good idea Pierre!

>

> NEXT WORLD CUP GAME: Saturday 1 July - England v Portugal 1600

BST

>

> Dasha: Ma/Ra/Ra/Ve/-Ma

>

> Dasha: Ju/Ve/Sa/Ju/-Ma

>

> Among many other influences, both have L12 over MEP10, but in

England the

> affliction is exact weakening transit Jupiter.

>

> Portugal will win as transit Jupiter and Venus are strong.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Jorge

>

>

> HYPERLINK " SAMVA%40 " SAMVA

 

> [HYPERLINK " SAMVA%40 " SAMVA]

On

> Behalf Of

> pierre touchard

> sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 00:23

> HYPERLINK " SAMVA%40 " SAMVA

> Football World Cup

>

> 

>

> Ok folks,

>

> How about something fun... Nobody loves football here ?

>

> I am having a little fun predicting cup matches. Using SA

classics I

> predicted (to my wife) that, for a start, France would win

against its last

> two opponents, Togo and Spain, despite the general feeling that

Spain would

> win. Tomorow I think that Brasil will beat France.

>

> Of course, I put all feelings aside. Only astrology, no

sentiments..-..

>

> Lets have your bets, folks, what are you, astrologers ?

>

> Pierre T

>

>

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Hello my dear Jorge,

 

Congratulations for your successful prediction about Germany Portugal match.

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

-

Jorge Angelino

SAMVA

Saturday, July 08, 2006 11:56 PM

RE: Football World Cup - FINAL: France v Italy

 

 

My dear Professor,

 

Wish you best of luck for your prediction as well.

 

It is very good to have your opinion. Thanks for sharing it with us.

 

The World Cup is fun and becomes an excellent opportunity for the SAMVA list members to apply SA and learn from it.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of sihaSent: sábado, 8 de Julho de 2006 13:47SAMVA Subject: Re: Football World Cup - FINAL: France v Italy

 

 

 

 



 

Hello my dear Jorge,

 

 

 

Wish you best of luck for your prediction.

 

 

 

To me the planetary influences of France look for a win as seen from the rectified charts. There are the following reasons for this:

 

 

 

1. Sub period lord Mars is strong in the natal chart of France.

 

 

 

2. The transit Venus ruling mental happiness in the chart of Finance is strongly placed in the house of gains.

 

 

 

3. Transit nodes severely afflict the natal combust and debilitated Mercury and the Sun in the chart of Italy.

 

 

 

4. Transit Ketu severely afflict the weak natal Moon in the chart of Italy.

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

Jorge Angelino

 

SAMVA

 

Friday, July 07, 2006 3:22 PM

 

FW: Football World Cup - FINAL: France v Italy

 

 

 

SUNDAY 9 JULY(Final, 19:00 BST)

France dasha: Sa/Ma/Sa/Ve/Sa

 

Transit Jupiter afflicts natal Jupiter. Transit Mars is afflicted by natal Ketu. Transit Saturn is weakly disposed. Natal Saturn afflicts transit Venus.

 

Italy dasha: Ra/Sa/Sa/Mo/Sa

 

 

Italy seems to be the winner, as it runs a better sub-period.

The table below lists the winner, runner-up, scoreline and host country from 1930 to date.

World Cup Winners

 

 

 

 

 

Year

 

Winner

 

Score

 

Runner Up

 

Host

 

 

1930

 

Uruguay

 

4-2

 

Argentine

 

Uruguay

 

 

1934

 

Italy

 

2-1

 

Czechoslovakia

 

Italy

 

 

1938

 

Italy

 

4-2

 

Hungary

 

France

 

 

1950

 

Uruguay

 

2-1

 

Brazil

 

Brazil

 

 

1954

 

Germany

 

3-2

 

Hungary

 

Switzerland

 

 

1958

 

Brazil

 

5-2

 

Sweden

 

Sweden

 

 

1962

 

Brazil

 

3-1

 

Czechoslovakia

 

Chile

 

 

1966

 

England

 

4-2

 

Germany

 

England

 

 

1970

 

Brazil

 

4-1

 

Italy

 

Mexico

 

 

1974

 

Germany

 

2-1

 

Netherlands

 

Germany

 

 

1978

 

Argentine

 

3-1

 

Netherlands

 

Argentine

 

 

1982

 

Italy

 

3-1

 

Germany

 

Spain

 

 

1986

 

Argentine

 

3-2

 

Germany

 

Mexico

 

 

1990

 

Germany

 

1-0

 

Argentine

 

Italy

 

 

1994

 

Brazil

 

3-2

 

Italy

 

USA

 

 

1998

 

France

 

3-0

 

Brazil

 

France

 

 

2002

 

Brazil

 

2-0

 

Germany

 

Korea/Japan

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Vyas Munidasdomingo, 2 de Julho de 2006 07:04SAMVA Subject: Re: Football World Cup

 

 

 

 

Dear Jorge (and list),I'd love to hear everyone's opinion on the outcome, especially the good Professor. I'll pitch my two cents once I've had a chance to look at the charts.Here's the schedule:TUESDAY 4 JULYGermany v Italy (semi-final, 20:00 BST)WEDNESDAY 5 JULYPortugal v France (semi-final, 20:00 BST)SUNDAY 9 JULY(Final, 19:00 BST)Best regards,Vyas Munidas- "Jorge Angelino" <jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt><SAMVA >Saturday, July 01, 2006 5:37 PMFW: Football World CupDear List,My reasoning was due to the fact of Mars, L2, being over the MEP5, in Brazil rectified chart.But the fact of Jupiter being stronger in the France rectified chart decided the result.Best wishes,JorgeJorge Angelino [jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt]sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 21:11'SAMVA 'RE: Football World CupBrazil will winBest wishes,JorgeSAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Vyas Munidassábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 20:12SAMVA Subject: Re: Football World CupGood work Jorge!Brazil vs France next, what's your take?Best regards,Vyas Munidas- "Jorge Angelino" <HYPERLINK "jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt"jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt><HYPERLINK "SAMVA%40"SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com>Saturday, July 01, 2006 1:47 PMFW: Football World CupDear List,SA works ALWAYS!!!We should be always grateful for that.Best wishes,JorgeJorge Angelino [HYPERLINK "jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt"jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt]sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 06:17HYPERLINK "%27SAMVA%40"'SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com'RE: Football World CupGood idea Pierre!NEXT WORLD CUP GAME: Saturday 1 July - England v Portugal 1600 BSTDasha: Ma/Ra/Ra/Ve/-MaDasha: Ju/Ve/Sa/Ju/-MaAmong many other influences, both have L12 over MEP10, but in England theaffliction is exact weakening transit Jupiter.Portugal will win as transit Jupiter and Venus are strong.Best wishes,JorgeHYPERLINK "SAMVA%40"SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com [HYPERLINK "SAMVA%40"SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com] On Behalf Ofpierre touchardsábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 00:23HYPERLINK "SAMVA%40"SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com Football World CupOk folks,How about something fun... Nobody loves football here ?I am having a little fun predicting cup matches. Using SA classics Ipredicted (to my wife) that, for a start, France would win against its lasttwo opponents, Togo and Spain, despite the general feeling that Spain wouldwin. Tomorow I think that Brasil will beat France.Of course, I put all feelings aside. Only astrology, no sentiments..-..Lets have your bets, folks, what are you, astrologers ?Pierre T

 

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[Guest guest]

My dear

Professor,

 

Thank you for your guidance.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On Behalf Of siha

sábado, 8 de Julho de 2006

23:21

SAMVA

Re: Football

World Cup - FINAL: France v Italy

 

 

 

 



 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello my dear Jorge,

 

 

 

 

 

Congratulations for your

successful prediction about Germany Portugal

match.

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

 

Jorge Angelino

 

 

SAMVA

 

 

 

Saturday,

July 08, 2006 11:56 PM

 

 

RE:

Football World Cup - FINAL: France v Italy

 

 

 

 

 

My dear

Professor,

 

Wish you

best of luck for your prediction as well.

 

It is

very good to have your opinion. Thanks for sharing it with us.

 

The

World Cup is fun and becomes an excellent opportunity for the SAMVA list

members to apply SA and learn from it.

 

Best

wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On Behalf Of siha

sábado, 8 de Julho de 2006

13:47

SAMVA

Re: Football

World Cup - FINAL: France v Italy

 

 

 

 



 

Hello my dear Jorge,

 

 

 

 

 

Wish you best of luck for

your prediction.

 

 

 

 

 

To me the planetary

influences of France look for a win as seen from the rectified

charts. There are the following reasons for this:

 

 

 

 

 

1.

Sub period lord Mars is strong in the natal chart of France.

 

 

 

 

 

2.

The transit Venus ruling mental happiness in the chart of Finance is strongly

placed in the house of gains.

 

 

 

 

 

3.

Transit nodes severely afflict the natal combust and debilitated Mercury and

the Sun in the chart of Italy.

 

 

 

 

 

4.

Transit Ketu severely afflict the weak natal Moon in the chart of Italy.

 

 

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

 

Jorge Angelino

 

 

SAMVA

 

 

 

Friday,

July 07, 2006 3:22 PM

 

 

FW:

Football World Cup - FINAL: France v Italy

 

 

 

 

 

SUNDAY 9 JULY

(Final, 19:00 BST)

France dasha: Sa/Ma/Sa/Ve/Sa

 

Transit

Jupiter afflicts natal Jupiter. Transit Mars is afflicted by natal Ketu. Transit Saturn is weakly disposed. Natal

Saturn afflicts transit Venus.

 

Italy dasha: Ra/Sa/Sa/Mo/Sa

 

 

Italy

seems to be the winner, as it runs a better sub-period.

The table below lists the winner, runner-up, scoreline

and host country from 1930 to date.

World Cup Winners

 

 

 

 

Year

 

 

Winner

 

 

Score

 

 

Runner Up

 

 

Host

 

 

 

 

1930

 

 

Uruguay

 

 

4-2

 

 

Argentine

 

 

Uruguay

 

 

 

 

1934

 

 

Italy

 

 

2-1

 

 

Czechoslovakia

 

 

Italy

 

 

 

 

1938

 

 

Italy

 

 

4-2

 

 

Hungary

 

 

France

 

 

 

 

1950

 

 

Uruguay

 

 

2-1

 

 

Brazil

 

 

Brazil

 

 

 

 

1954

 

 

Germany

 

 

3-2

 

 

Hungary

 

 

Switzerland

 

 

 

 

1958

 

 

Brazil

 

 

5-2

 

 

Sweden

 

 

Sweden

 

 

 

 

1962

 

 

Brazil

 

 

3-1

 

 

Czechoslovakia

 

 

Chile

 

 

 

 

1966

 

 

England

 

 

4-2

 

 

Germany

 

 

England

 

 

 

 

1970

 

 

Brazil

 

 

4-1

 

 

Italy

 

 

Mexico

 

 

 

 

1974

 

 

Germany

 

 

2-1

 

 

Netherlands

 

 

Germany

 

 

 

 

1978

 

 

Argentine

 

 

3-1

 

 

Netherlands

 

 

Argentine

 

 

 

 

1982

 

 

Italy

 

 

3-1

 

 

Germany

 

 

Spain

 

 

 

 

1986

 

 

Argentine

 

 

3-2

 

 

Germany

 

 

Mexico

 

 

 

 

1990

 

 

Germany

 

 

1-0

 

 

Argentine

 

 

Italy

 

 

 

 

1994

 

 

Brazil

 

 

3-2

 

 

Italy

 

 

USA

 

 

 

 

1998

 

 

France

 

 

3-0

 

 

Brazil

 

 

France

 

 

 

 

2002

 

 

Brazil

 

 

2-0

 

 

Germany

 

 

Korea/Japan

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best

wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Vyas

Munidas

domingo, 2 de Julho de 2006

07:04

SAMVA

Re: Football

World Cup

 

 

 

 

Dear Jorge (and list),

 

I'd love to hear everyone's opinion on the outcome, especially the good

Professor. I'll pitch my two cents once I've had a chance to look at the

charts.

 

Here's the schedule:

 

TUESDAY 4 JULY

Germany v Italy (semi-final, 20:00 BST)

 

WEDNESDAY 5 JULY

Portugal v France (semi-final, 20:00 BST)

 

SUNDAY 9 JULY

(Final, 19:00 BST)

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

 

-

" Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt>

<SAMVA >

Saturday, July 01, 2006 5:37 PM

FW: Football World Cup

 

Dear List,

 

My reasoning was due to the fact of Mars, L2, being over the MEP5, in Brazil

rectified chart.

 

But the fact of Jupiter being stronger in the France rectified chart decided

the result.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

Jorge Angelino [jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt]

sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 21:11

'SAMVA '

RE: Football World Cup

 

Brazil will win

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ]

On Behalf Of Vyas

Munidas

sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 20:12

SAMVA

Re: Football World Cup

 

Good work Jorge!

 

Brazil vs France next, what's your take?

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

 

-

" Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK

" jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt>

<HYPERLINK " SAMVA%40 " SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com>

Saturday, July 01, 2006 1:47 PM

FW: Football World Cup

 

Dear List,

 

SA works ALWAYS!!!

 

We should be always grateful for that.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

Jorge Angelino [HYPERLINK

" jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt]

sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 06:17

HYPERLINK " %27SAMVA%40 " 'SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com'

RE: Football World Cup

 

Good idea Pierre!

 

NEXT WORLD CUP GAME: Saturday 1 July - England v Portugal 1600 BST

 

Dasha: Ma/Ra/Ra/Ve/-Ma

 

Dasha: Ju/Ve/Sa/Ju/-Ma

 

Among many other influences, both have L12 over MEP10, but in England the

affliction is exact weakening transit Jupiter.

 

Portugal will win as transit Jupiter and Venus are strong.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

HYPERLINK " SAMVA%40 " SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com

 

[HYPERLINK " SAMVA%40 " SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com]

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pierre touchard

sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 00:23

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Football World Cup

 



 

Ok folks,

 

How about something fun... Nobody loves football here ?

 

I am having a little fun predicting cup matches. Using SA classics I

predicted (to my wife) that, for a start, France would win against its last

two opponents, Togo and Spain, despite the general feeling that Spain would

win. Tomorow I think that Brasil will beat France.

 

Of course, I put all feelings aside. Only astrology, no sentiments..-..

 

Lets have your bets, folks, what are you, astrologers ?

 

Pierre T

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Jorge,

 

Congratulations! Italy has won.

 

 

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

 

 

 

-

" Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino

<SAMVA >

Saturday, July 08, 2006 6:34 PM

RE: Football World Cup - FINAL: France v Italy

 

 

My dear Professor,

 

 

 

Thank you for your guidance.

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of

siha

sábado, 8 de Julho de 2006 23:21

SAMVA

Re: Football World Cup - FINAL: France v Italy

 

 

 



 

 

 

Hello my dear Jorge,

 

 

 

Congratulations for your successful prediction about Germany Portugal

match.

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

HYPERLINK " jorge.angelino " Jorge Angelino

 

HYPERLINK " SAMVA " SAMVA

 

Saturday, July 08, 2006 11:56 PM

 

RE: Football World Cup - FINAL: France v Italy

 

 

 

My dear Professor,

 

 

 

Wish you best of luck for your prediction as well.

 

 

 

It is very good to have your opinion. Thanks for sharing it with us.

 

 

 

The World Cup is fun and becomes an excellent opportunity for the SAMVA list

members to apply SA and learn from it.

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

HYPERLINK " SAMVA " SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On Behalf Of siha

sábado, 8 de Julho de 2006 13:47

SAMVA

Re: Football World Cup - FINAL: France v Italy

 

 

 



 

Hello my dear Jorge,

 

 

 

Wish you best of luck for your prediction.

 

 

 

To me the planetary influences of France look for a win as seen from the

rectified charts. There are the following reasons for this:

 

 

 

1. Sub period lord Mars is strong in the natal chart of France.

 

 

 

2. The transit Venus ruling mental happiness in the chart of Finance is

strongly placed in the house of gains.

 

 

 

3. Transit nodes severely afflict the natal combust and debilitated Mercury

and the Sun in the chart of Italy.

 

 

 

4. Transit Ketu severely afflict the weak natal Moon in the chart of Italy.

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

HYPERLINK " jorge.angelino " Jorge Angelino

 

HYPERLINK " SAMVA " SAMVA

 

Friday, July 07, 2006 3:22 PM

 

FW: Football World Cup - FINAL: France v Italy

 

 

 

SUNDAY 9 JULY

(Final, 19:00 BST)

 

France dasha: Sa/Ma/Sa/Ve/Sa

 

 

 

Transit Jupiter afflicts natal Jupiter. Transit Mars is afflicted by natal

Ketu. Transit Saturn is weakly disposed. Natal Saturn afflicts transit

Venus.

 

 

 

Italy dasha: Ra/Sa/Sa/Mo/Sa

 

 

 

 

 

Italy seems to be the winner, as it runs a better sub-period.

 

The table below lists the winner, runner-up, scoreline and host country from

1930 to date.

 

World Cup Winners

 

 

Year

 

Winner

 

Score

 

Runner Up

 

Host

 

 

1930

 

Uruguay

 

4-2

 

Argentine

 

Uruguay

 

 

1934

 

Italy

 

2-1

 

Czechoslovakia

 

Italy

 

 

1938

 

Italy

 

4-2

 

Hungary

 

France

 

 

1950

 

Uruguay

 

2-1

 

Brazil

 

Brazil

 

 

1954

 

Germany

 

3-2

 

Hungary

 

Switzerland

 

 

1958

 

Brazil

 

5-2

 

Sweden

 

Sweden

 

 

1962

 

Brazil

 

3-1

 

Czechoslovakia

 

Chile

 

 

1966

 

England

 

4-2

 

Germany

 

England

 

 

1970

 

Brazil

 

4-1

 

Italy

 

Mexico

 

 

1974

 

Germany

 

2-1

 

Netherlands

 

Germany

 

 

1978

 

Argentine

 

3-1

 

Netherlands

 

Argentine

 

 

1982

 

Italy

 

3-1

 

Germany

 

Spain

 

 

1986

 

Argentine

 

3-2

 

Germany

 

Mexico

 

 

1990

 

Germany

 

1-0

 

Argentine

 

Italy

 

 

1994

 

Brazil

 

3-2

 

Italy

 

USA

 

 

1998

 

France

 

3-0

 

Brazil

 

France

 

 

2002

 

Brazil

 

2-0

 

Germany

 

Korea/Japan

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Vyas

Munidas

domingo, 2 de Julho de 2006 07:04

SAMVA

Re: Football World Cup

 

 

 

Dear Jorge (and list),

 

I'd love to hear everyone's opinion on the outcome, especially the good

Professor. I'll pitch my two cents once I've had a chance to look at the

charts.

 

Here's the schedule:

 

TUESDAY 4 JULY

Germany v Italy (semi-final, 20:00 BST)

 

WEDNESDAY 5 JULY

Portugal v France (semi-final, 20:00 BST)

 

SUNDAY 9 JULY

(Final, 19:00 BST)

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

 

-

" Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK

" jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt>

<HYPERLINK " SAMVA%40 " SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com>

Saturday, July 01, 2006 5:37 PM

FW: Football World Cup

 

Dear List,

 

My reasoning was due to the fact of Mars, L2, being over the MEP5, in Brazil

rectified chart.

 

But the fact of Jupiter being stronger in the France rectified chart decided

the result.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

Jorge Angelino [HYPERLINK

" jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt]

sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 21:11

HYPERLINK " %27SAMVA%40 " 'SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com'

RE: Football World Cup

 

Brazil will win

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

HYPERLINK " SAMVA%40 " SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com

[HYPERLINK " SAMVA%40 " SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com] On

Behalf Of Vyas

Munidas

sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 20:12

HYPERLINK " SAMVA%40 " SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com

Re: Football World Cup

 

Good work Jorge!

 

Brazil vs France next, what's your take?

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

 

-

" Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK

" jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt>

<HYPERLINK " SAMVA%-40.-com " SAMVA@-.--com>

Saturday, July 01, 2006 1:47 PM

FW: Football World Cup

 

Dear List,

 

SA works ALWAYS!!!

 

We should be always grateful for that.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

Jorge Angelino [HYPERLINK

" jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt]

sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 06:17

HYPERLINK

" %27SAMVA%-40.-com " 'SAMVA@-.--com'

RE: Football World Cup

 

Good idea Pierre!

 

NEXT WORLD CUP GAME: Saturday 1 July - England v Portugal 1600 BST

 

Dasha: Ma/Ra/Ra/Ve/--Ma

 

Dasha: Ju/Ve/Sa/Ju/--Ma

 

Among many other influences, both have L12 over MEP10, but in England the

affliction is exact weakening transit Jupiter.

 

Portugal will win as transit Jupiter and Venus are strong.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

HYPERLINK " SAMVA%-40.-com " SAMVA@-.--com

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pierre touchard

sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 00:23

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Football World Cup

 



 

Ok folks,

 

How about something fun... Nobody loves football here ?

 

I am having a little fun predicting cup matches. Using SA classics I

predicted (to my wife) that, for a start, France would win against its last

two opponents, Togo and Spain, despite the general feeling that Spain would

win. Tomorow I think that Brasil will beat France.

 

Of course, I put all feelings aside. Only astrology, no sentiments..--..

 

Lets have your bets, folks, what are you, astrologers ?

 

Pierre T

 

 

 

 

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Dear Mr. Angelino,

 

CONGRADULATIONS!

 

Best Wishes,

 

Arun

 

SAMVA , " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino wrote:

>

> My dear Professor,

>

>

>

> Thank you for your guidance.

>

>

>

> Best wishes,

>

>

>

> Jorge

>

>

>

>

> SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf

Of siha

> sábado, 8 de Julho de 2006 23:21

> SAMVA

> Re: Football World Cup - FINAL: France v Italy

>

>

>

> 

>

>

>

> Hello my dear Jorge,

>

>

>

> Congratulations for your successful prediction about Germany Portugal

> match.

>

> Best wishes,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> -

>

> HYPERLINK " jorge.angelino " Jorge Angelino

>

> HYPERLINK " SAMVA " SAMVA

>

> Saturday, July 08, 2006 11:56 PM

>

> RE: Football World Cup - FINAL: France v Italy

>

>

>

> My dear Professor,

>

>

>

> Wish you best of luck for your prediction as well.

>

>

>

> It is very good to have your opinion. Thanks for sharing it with us.

>

>

>

> The World Cup is fun and becomes an excellent opportunity for the

SAMVA list members to apply SA and learn from it.

>

>

>

> Best wishes,

>

>

>

> Jorge

>

>

>

 

> HYPERLINK " SAMVA " SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On Behalf Of siha

> sábado, 8 de Julho de 2006 13:47

> SAMVA

> Re: Football World Cup - FINAL: France v Italy

>

>

>

> 

>

> Hello my dear Jorge,

>

>

>

> Wish you best of luck for your prediction.

>

>

>

> To me the planetary influences of France look for a win as seen

from the rectified charts. There are the following reasons for this:

>

>

>

> 1. Sub period lord Mars is strong in the natal chart of France.

>

>

>

> 2. The transit Venus ruling mental happiness in the chart of Finance

is strongly placed in the house of gains.

>

>

>

> 3. Transit nodes severely afflict the natal combust and debilitated

Mercury and the Sun in the chart of Italy.

>

>

>

> 4. Transit Ketu severely afflict the weak natal Moon in the chart

of Italy.

>

>

>

> Best wishes,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> -

>

> HYPERLINK " jorge.angelino " Jorge Angelino

>

> HYPERLINK " SAMVA " SAMVA

>

> Friday, July 07, 2006 3:22 PM

>

> FW: Football World Cup - FINAL: France v Italy

>

>

>

> SUNDAY 9 JULY

> (Final, 19:00 BST)

>

> France dasha: Sa/Ma/Sa/Ve/Sa

>

>

>

> Transit Jupiter afflicts natal Jupiter. Transit Mars is afflicted by

natal Ketu. Transit Saturn is weakly disposed. Natal Saturn afflicts

transit Venus.

>

>

>

> Italy dasha: Ra/Sa/Sa/Mo/Sa

>

>

>

>

>

> Italy seems to be the winner, as it runs a better sub-period.

>

> The table below lists the winner, runner-up, scoreline and host

country from 1930 to date.

>

> World Cup Winners

>

>

> Year

>

> Winner

>

> Score

>

> Runner Up

>

> Host

>

>

> 1930

>

> Uruguay

>

> 4-2

>

> Argentine

>

> Uruguay

>

>

> 1934

>

> Italy

>

> 2-1

>

> Czechoslovakia

>

> Italy

>

>

> 1938

>

> Italy

>

> 4-2

>

> Hungary

>

> France

>

>

> 1950

>

> Uruguay

>

> 2-1

>

> Brazil

>

> Brazil

>

>

> 1954

>

> Germany

>

> 3-2

>

> Hungary

>

> Switzerland

>

>

> 1958

>

> Brazil

>

> 5-2

>

> Sweden

>

> Sweden

>

>

> 1962

>

> Brazil

>

> 3-1

>

> Czechoslovakia

>

> Chile

>

>

> 1966

>

> England

>

> 4-2

>

> Germany

>

> England

>

>

> 1970

>

> Brazil

>

> 4-1

>

> Italy

>

> Mexico

>

>

> 1974

>

> Germany

>

> 2-1

>

> Netherlands

>

> Germany

>

>

> 1978

>

> Argentine

>

> 3-1

>

> Netherlands

>

> Argentine

>

>

> 1982

>

> Italy

>

> 3-1

>

> Germany

>

> Spain

>

>

> 1986

>

> Argentine

>

> 3-2

>

> Germany

>

> Mexico

>

>

> 1990

>

> Germany

>

> 1-0

>

> Argentine

>

> Italy

>

>

> 1994

>

> Brazil

>

> 3-2

>

> Italy

>

> USA

>

>

> 1998

>

> France

>

> 3-0

>

> Brazil

>

> France

>

>

> 2002

>

> Brazil

>

> 2-0

>

> Germany

>

> Korea/Japan

>

>

>

> Best wishes,

>

>

>

> Jorge

>

>

>

>

> SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf

Of Vyas Munidas

> domingo, 2 de Julho de 2006 07:04

> SAMVA

> Re: Football World Cup

>

>

>

> Dear Jorge (and list),

>

> I'd love to hear everyone's opinion on the outcome, especially the good

> Professor. I'll pitch my two cents once I've had a chance to look at

the

> charts.

>

> Here's the schedule:

>

> TUESDAY 4 JULY

> Germany v Italy (semi-final, 20:00 BST)

>

> WEDNESDAY 5 JULY

> Portugal v France (semi-final, 20:00 BST)

>

> SUNDAY 9 JULY

> (Final, 19:00 BST)

>

> Best regards,

>

> Vyas Munidas

>

> -

> " Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK

" jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino

> <HYPERLINK " SAMVA%40 " SAMVA

> Saturday, July 01, 2006 5:37 PM

> FW: Football World Cup

>

> Dear List,

>

> My reasoning was due to the fact of Mars, L2, being over the MEP5,

in Brazil

> rectified chart.

>

> But the fact of Jupiter being stronger in the France rectified chart

decided

> the result.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Jorge

>

>

> Jorge Angelino [HYPERLINK

" jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino]

> sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 21:11

> HYPERLINK " %27SAMVA%40 " 'SAMVA'

> RE: Football World Cup

>

> Brazil will win

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Jorge

>

>

> HYPERLINK " SAMVA%40 " SAMVA

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Of Vyas

> Munidas

> sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 20:12

> HYPERLINK " SAMVA%40 " SAMVA

> Re: Football World Cup

>

> Good work Jorge!

>

> Brazil vs France next, what's your take?

>

> Best regards,

>

> Vyas Munidas

>

> -

> " Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK

> " jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino

> <HYPERLINK " SAMVA%-40.-com " SAMVA

> Saturday, July 01, 2006 1:47 PM

> FW: Football World Cup

>

> Dear List,

>

> SA works ALWAYS!!!

>

> We should be always grateful for that.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Jorge

>

>

> Jorge Angelino [HYPERLINK

> " jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino]

> sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 06:17

> HYPERLINK " %27SAMVA%-40.-com " 'SAMVA'

> RE: Football World Cup

>

> Good idea Pierre!

>

> NEXT WORLD CUP GAME: Saturday 1 July - England v Portugal 1600 BST

>

> Dasha: Ma/Ra/Ra/Ve/--Ma

>

> Dasha: Ju/Ve/Sa/Ju/--Ma

>

> Among many other influences, both have L12 over MEP10, but in

England the

> affliction is exact weakening transit Jupiter.

>

> Portugal will win as transit Jupiter and Venus are strong.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Jorge

>

>

> HYPERLINK " SAMVA%-40.-com " SAMVA

> [HYPERLINK " SAMVA%-40.-com " SAMVA] On

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> pierre touchard

> sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 00:23

> HYPERLINK " SAMVA%-40.-com " SAMVA

> Football World Cup

>

> 

>

> Ok folks,

>

> How about something fun... Nobody loves football here ?

>

> I am having a little fun predicting cup matches. Using SA classics I

> predicted (to my wife) that, for a start, France would win against

its last

> two opponents, Togo and Spain, despite the general feeling that

Spain would

> win. Tomorow I think that Brasil will beat France.

>

> Of course, I put all feelings aside. Only astrology, no sentiments..--..

>

> Lets have your bets, folks, what are you, astrologers ?

>

> Pierre T

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Hello dear Jorge

 

I have no exact idea how chinese animal astrology was used in this instance, save that they felt Italy would win. I would hesitate to asssociate the 12 animal year with the jupiter cycle, even though both have 12 y.

 

Congratulations, you got that right also !!

 

I had seen the nodal transits over Sun mercury and Moon in Italy's chart. However these thansits had also been present for the previous matches. I also felt that the exact 3° exaltation of the italian moon might be enough to withstand the stress. France however had weakened transit of mars, which is why I kept my prediction.

 

Best to you and all

Pierre T

 

 

 

 

-

Jorge Angelino

SAMVA

Friday, July 07, 2006 10:33 PM

RE: Football World Cup - FINAL: France v Italy

 

 

 

 

My dear Pierre,

 

In Chinese Astrology, the same animal year repeats every 12 years. In Vedic Astrology, Jupiter returns to its natal placement every 12 years.

 

Looking to Italy rectified chart:

Final

 

 

 

 

June 10, 193417:00

 

 

 

 

 

Czechoslovakia

 

1–2(AET)

 

Italy

 

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1934_FIFA_World_Cup

 

Final

 

 

 

 

June 19, 193817:00

 

 

 

 

 

Hungary

 

2–4

 

Italy

 

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1938_FIFA_World_Cup

 

Final

 

 

 

 

July 11, 198220:00

 

 

 

 

 

Italy

 

3–1

 

West Germany

 

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1982_FIFA_World_Cup

 

We can see that transit Jupiter has been in different houses. It seems that every match is unique in itself.

 

But a deeper study of all the different matchs since 1930 would give us added expertise in predicting this kind of events.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of pierre touchardsexta-feira, 7 de Julho de 2006 22:59SAMVA Subject: Re: Football World Cup - FINAL: France v Italy

 

 

 

 



 

Hello dear Jorge

 

 

 

I agree. Moon L 1 and Sun L 2 are both weak in chart of France. The rising transit planets are all weak from this. Italy is running strong Moon instead which supports those, includign this important saturn. Its running both better transits and periods.

 

 

 

On a side note, I've seen chinese astrologers predicting before the start that the chinese animal year was similar to the years either Brazil or Italy won. Italy remains.

 

 

 

I think that Italy will win.

 

Let us see,

 

Pierre

 

 

 

 

-

 

Jorge Angelino

 

SAMVA

 

Friday, July 07, 2006 5:52 AM

 

FW: Football World Cup - FINAL: France v Italy

 

 

 

 

SUNDAY 9 JULY(Final, 19:00 BST)

France dasha: Sa/Ma/Sa/Ve/Sa

 

Transit Jupiter afflicts natal Jupiter. Transit Mars is afflicted by natal Ketu. Transit Saturn is weakly disposed. Natal Saturn afflicts transit Venus.

 

Italy dasha: Ra/Sa/Sa/Mo/Sa

 

 

Italy seems to be the winner, as it runs a better sub-period.

The table below lists the winner, runner-up, scoreline and host country from 1930 to date.

World Cup Winners

 

 

 

 

 

Year

 

Winner

 

Score

 

Runner Up

 

Host

 

 

1930

 

Uruguay

 

4-2

 

Argentine

 

Uruguay

 

 

1934

 

Italy

 

2-1

 

Czechoslovakia

 

Italy

 

 

1938

 

Italy

 

4-2

 

Hungary

 

France

 

 

1950

 

Uruguay

 

2-1

 

Brazil

 

Brazil

 

 

1954

 

Germany

 

3-2

 

Hungary

 

Switzerland

 

 

1958

 

Brazil

 

5-2

 

Sweden

 

Sweden

 

 

1962

 

Brazil

 

3-1

 

Czechoslovakia

 

Chile

 

 

1966

 

England

 

4-2

 

Germany

 

England

 

 

1970

 

Brazil

 

4-1

 

Italy

 

Mexico

 

 

1974

 

Germany

 

2-1

 

Netherlands

 

Germany

 

 

1978

 

Argentine

 

3-1

 

Netherlands

 

Argentine

 

 

1982

 

Italy

 

3-1

 

Germany

 

Spain

 

 

1986

 

Argentine

 

3-2

 

Germany

 

Mexico

 

 

1990

 

Germany

 

1-0

 

Argentine

 

Italy

 

 

1994

 

Brazil

 

3-2

 

Italy

 

USA

 

 

1998

 

France

 

3-0

 

Brazil

 

France

 

 

2002

 

Brazil

 

2-0

 

Germany

 

Korea/Japan

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Vyas Munidasdomingo, 2 de Julho de 2006 07:04SAMVA Subject: Re: Football World Cup

 

 

 

 

Dear Jorge (and list),I'd love to hear everyone's opinion on the outcome, especially the good Professor. I'll pitch my two cents once I've had a chance to look at the charts.Here's the schedule:TUESDAY 4 JULYGermany v Italy (semi-final, 20:00 BST)WEDNESDAY 5 JULYPortugal v France (semi-final, 20:00 BST)SUNDAY 9 JULY(Final, 19:00 BST)Best regards,Vyas Munidas- "Jorge Angelino" <jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt><SAMVA >Saturday, July 01, 2006 5:37 PMFW: Football World CupDear List,My reasoning was due to the fact of Mars, L2, being over the MEP5, in Brazil rectified chart.But the fact of Jupiter being stronger in the France rectified chart decided the result.Best wishes,JorgeJorge Angelino [jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt]sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 21:11'SAMVA 'RE: Football World CupBrazil will winBest wishes,JorgeSAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Vyas Munidassábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 20:12SAMVA Subject: Re: Football World CupGood work Jorge!Brazil vs France next, what's your take?Best regards,Vyas Munidas- "Jorge Angelino" <HYPERLINK "jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt"jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt><HYPERLINK "SAMVA%40"SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com>Saturday, July 01, 2006 1:47 PMFW: Football World CupDear List,SA works ALWAYS!!!We should be always grateful for that.Best wishes,JorgeJorge Angelino [HYPERLINK "jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt"jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt]sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 06:17HYPERLINK "%27SAMVA%40"'SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com'RE: Football World CupGood idea Pierre!NEXT WORLD CUP GAME: Saturday 1 July - England v Portugal 1600 BSTDasha: Ma/Ra/Ra/Ve/-MaDasha: Ju/Ve/Sa/Ju/-MaAmong many other influences, both have L12 over MEP10, but in England theaffliction is exact weakening transit Jupiter.Portugal will win as transit Jupiter and Venus are strong.Best wishes,JorgeHYPERLINK "SAMVA%40"SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com [HYPERLINK "SAMVA%40"SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com] On Behalf Ofpierre touchardsábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 00:23HYPERLINK "SAMVA%40"SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com Football World CupOk folks,How about something fun... Nobody loves football here ?I am having a little fun predicting cup matches. Using SA classics Ipredicted (to my wife) that, for a start, France would win against its lasttwo opponents, Togo and Spain, despite the general feeling that Spain wouldwin. Tomorow I think that Brasil will beat France.Of course, I put all feelings aside. Only astrology, no sentiments..-..Lets have your bets, folks, what are you, astrologers ?Pierre T

 

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My dear

Vyas,

 

Yes. In the last minute they had the

support of the MBP Saturn.

 

Thank you for your kind words.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Vyas

Munidas

domingo, 9 de Julho de 2006

21:42

SAMVA

Re: Football

World Cup - FINAL: France v Italy

 

 

 

 

Dear Jorge,

 

Congratulations! Italy has won.

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

 

-

" Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt>

<SAMVA >

Saturday, July 08, 2006 6:34 PM

RE: Football World Cup - FINAL: France v Italy

 

My dear Professor,

 

Thank you for your guidance.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ]

On Behalf Of

siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com

sábado, 8 de Julho de 2006 23:21

SAMVA

Re: Football World Cup - FINAL: France v Italy

 



 

Hello my dear Jorge,

 

Congratulations for your successful prediction about Germany Portugal

match.

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

-

 

HYPERLINK " jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt " Jorge

Angelino

 

HYPERLINK " SAMVA " SAMVA

 

Saturday, July 08, 2006 11:56 PM

 

RE: Football World Cup - FINAL: France v Italy

 

My dear Professor,

 

Wish you best of luck for your prediction as well.

 

It is very good to have your opinion. Thanks for sharing it with us.

 

The World Cup is fun and becomes an excellent opportunity for the SAMVA list

members to apply SA and learn from it.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

HYPERLINK " SAMVA " SAMVA

[sAMVA ]

On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com

sábado, 8 de Julho de 2006 13:47

SAMVA

Re: Football World Cup - FINAL: France v Italy

 



 

Hello my dear Jorge,

 

Wish you best of luck for your prediction.

 

To me the planetary influences of France look for a win as seen from the

rectified charts. There are the following reasons for this:

 

1. Sub period lord Mars is strong in the natal chart of France.

 

2. The transit Venus ruling mental happiness in the chart of Finance is

strongly placed in the house of gains.

 

3. Transit nodes severely afflict the natal combust and debilitated Mercury

and the Sun in the chart of Italy.

 

4. Transit Ketu severely afflict the weak natal Moon in the chart of Italy.

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

-

 

HYPERLINK " jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt " Jorge

Angelino

 

HYPERLINK " SAMVA " SAMVA

 

Friday, July 07, 2006 3:22 PM

 

FW: Football World Cup - FINAL: France v Italy

 

SUNDAY 9 JULY

(Final, 19:00 BST)

 

France dasha: Sa/Ma/Sa/Ve/Sa

 

Transit Jupiter afflicts natal Jupiter. Transit Mars is afflicted by natal

Ketu. Transit Saturn is weakly disposed. Natal Saturn afflicts transit

Venus.

 

Italy dasha: Ra/Sa/Sa/Mo/Sa

 

Italy seems to be the winner, as it runs a better sub-period.

 

The table below lists the winner, runner-up, scoreline and host country from

1930 to date.

 

World Cup Winners

 

Year

 

Winner

 

Score

 

Runner Up

 

Host

 

1930

 

Uruguay

 

4-2

 

Argentine

 

Uruguay

 

1934

 

Italy

 

2-1

 

Czechoslovakia

 

Italy

 

1938

 

Italy

 

4-2

 

Hungary

 

France

 

1950

 

Uruguay

 

2-1

 

Brazil

 

Brazil

 

1954

 

Germany

 

3-2

 

Hungary

 

Switzerland

 

1958

 

Brazil

 

5-2

 

Sweden

 

Sweden

 

1962

 

Brazil

 

3-1

 

Czechoslovakia

 

Chile

 

1966

 

England

 

4-2

 

Germany

 

England

 

1970

 

Brazil

 

4-1

 

Italy

 

Mexico

 

1974

 

Germany

 

2-1

 

Netherlands

 

Germany

 

1978

 

Argentine

 

3-1

 

Netherlands

 

Argentine

 

1982

 

Italy

 

3-1

 

Germany

 

Spain

 

1986

 

Argentine

 

3-2

 

Germany

 

Mexico

 

1990

 

Germany

 

1-0

 

Argentine

 

Italy

 

1994

 

Brazil

 

3-2

 

Italy

 

USA

 

1998

 

France

 

3-0

 

Brazil

 

France

 

2002

 

Brazil

 

2-0

 

Germany

 

Korea/Japan

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ]

On Behalf Of Vyas

Munidas

domingo, 2 de Julho de 2006 07:04

SAMVA

Re: Football World Cup

 

Dear Jorge (and list),

 

I'd love to hear everyone's opinion on the outcome, especially the good

Professor. I'll pitch my two cents once I've had a chance to look at the

charts.

 

Here's the schedule:

 

TUESDAY 4 JULY

Germany v Italy (semi-final, 20:00 BST)

 

WEDNESDAY 5 JULY

Portugal v France (semi-final, 20:00 BST)

 

SUNDAY 9 JULY

(Final, 19:00 BST)

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

 

-

" Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK

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<HYPERLINK " SAMVA%40 " SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com>

Saturday, July 01, 2006 5:37 PM

FW: Football World Cup

 

Dear List,

 

My reasoning was due to the fact of Mars, L2, being over the MEP5, in Brazil

rectified chart.

 

But the fact of Jupiter being stronger in the France rectified chart decided

the result.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

Jorge Angelino [HYPERLINK

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sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 21:11

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RE: Football World Cup

 

Brazil will win

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

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Munidas

sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 20:12

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Re: Football World Cup

 

Good work Jorge!

 

Brazil vs France next, what's your take?

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

 

-

" Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK

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Saturday, July 01, 2006 1:47 PM

FW: Football World Cup

 

Dear List,

 

SA works ALWAYS!!!

 

We should be always grateful for that.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

Jorge Angelino [HYPERLINK

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sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 06:17

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RE: Football World Cup

 

Good idea Pierre!

 

NEXT WORLD CUP GAME: Saturday 1 July - England v Portugal 1600 BST

 

Dasha: Ma/Ra/Ra/Ve/--Ma

 

Dasha: Ju/Ve/Sa/Ju/--Ma

 

Among many other influences, both have L12 over MEP10, but in England the

affliction is exact weakening transit Jupiter.

 

Portugal will win as transit Jupiter and Venus are strong.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

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Football World Cup

 



 

Ok folks,

 

How about something fun... Nobody loves football here ?

 

I am having a little fun predicting cup matches. Using SA classics I

predicted (to my wife) that, for a start, France would win against its last

two opponents, Togo and Spain, despite the general feeling that Spain would

win. Tomorow I think that Brasil will beat France.

 

Of course, I put all feelings aside. Only astrology, no sentiments..--..

 

Lets have your bets, folks, what are you, astrologers ?

 

Pierre T

 

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My dear

Ramanuja Das,

 

CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR SUCCESSFUL

PREDICTION.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Ramanuja

Das

sábado, 8 de Julho de 2006

22:43

SAMVA

Re: Football

World Cup - FINAL: France v Italy

 

 

 

 

Hello to everyone

 

As seen in the natal charts showed by Jorge to me the planetary

influences of Italy look for a win

France's horoscope

 

1) It is true that the sub period of Mars as a yogakaraka is

strong because is the lord of 10th in 11th (gains) but is afflicted

by Saturn lord of the 8th house in the natal chart of france.

2) The moon (mind of people) is in 12th house (loses) in natal

chart, in transit the moon is in Sagittarius in 6th and aspects the

12th and the Sun in transit is in the 12th house from lagna, this

activates the 12th house, the transit of Sun is activated because

Mars as a yogakaraka is situated in Krittika (sun) and the transit

of the moon in Sagittarius makes more sensitive the house of loses.

3) Saturn transits lagna as lord of the 8th in natal chart,

Mercury transits lagna as lord of 12th in natal chart, this means

that france will be blocked.

4) Some times when the Sun transits chandra lagna indicates

that is a month of a good opportunity to win something big, but

usually all is an illusion. The transit in 12th house indicates that

should lose something.

5) Mars transits lagna as a yogakaraka (good) but is afflicted

by Rahu, Mercury (L12th) and Saturn (L8) in transit, this means that

is not strong enough

 

Italy's horoscope

 

1) Saturn sub period occupies the 10th (good) yet not is strong

enough as a L3 and L4

2) The 3th house falls in Capricorn in the natal chart of Italy

and is the 6th from the 10th house and rules the opponent (france)

is afflicted by Saturn, Mars and Mercury lords of malefic houses

3) The moon (mind of people) in natal chart is in Taurus and

Venus in transits makes a conjunct indicating mental happiness for

the Italians, the moon is not afflicted, Ketu does not aspect

because does not have eyes.

4) The sub period of Saturn activates Ketu because Saturn

occupies Makha (Ketu) and Ketu in transit ocupies the 11th (gains).

Ketu acts like Mars in Aries (good) and Mercury in trine house in

natal chart and in transit (good)

 

It seems that Italy wins

 

let's see

 

Best Wishes

 

Ramanuja das

 

SAMVA ,

" pierre touchard " <pierretouchard

wrote:

>

> Hello dear Jorge

>

> I agree. Moon L 1 and Sun L 2 are both weak in chart of France.

The rising transit planets are all weak from this. Italy is running

strong Moon instead which supports those, includign this important

saturn. Its running both better transits and periods.

>

> On a side note, I've seen chinese astrologers predicting before

the start that the chinese animal year was similar to the years

either Brazil or Italy won. Italy remains.

>

> I think that Italy will win.

> Let us see,

> Pierre

>

> -

> Jorge Angelino

> SAMVA

 

> Friday, July 07, 2006 5:52 AM

> FW: Football World Cup - FINAL: France v Italy

>

>

>

> SUNDAY 9 JULY

> (Final, 19:00 BST)

>

> France dasha: Sa/Ma/Sa/Ve/Sa

>

>

>

> Transit Jupiter afflicts natal Jupiter. Transit Mars is

afflicted by natal Ketu. Transit Saturn is weakly disposed. Natal

Saturn afflicts transit Venus.

>

>

>

> Italy dasha: Ra/Sa/Sa/Mo/Sa

>

>

>

>

>

> Italy seems to be the winner, as it runs a better sub-period.

>

> The table below lists the winner, runner-up, scoreline and host

country from 1930 to date.

>

> World Cup Winners

>

> Year

> Winner

> Score

> Runner Up

> Host

>

> 1930

> Uruguay

> 4-2

> Argentine

> Uruguay

>

> 1934

> Italy

> 2-1

> Czechoslovakia

> Italy

>

> 1938

> Italy

> 4-2

> Hungary

> France

>

> 1950

> Uruguay

> 2-1

> Brazil

> Brazil

>

> 1954

> Germany

> 3-2

> Hungary

> Switzerland

>

> 1958

> Brazil

> 5-2

> Sweden

> Sweden

>

> 1962

> Brazil

> 3-1

> Czechoslovakia

> Chile

>

> 1966

> England

> 4-2

> Germany

> England

>

> 1970

> Brazil

> 4-1

> Italy

> Mexico

>

> 1974

> Germany

> 2-1

> Netherlands

> Germany

>

> 1978

> Argentine

> 3-1

> Netherlands

> Argentine

>

> 1982

> Italy

> 3-1

> Germany

> Spain

>

> 1986

> Argentine

> 3-2

> Germany

> Mexico

>

> 1990

> Germany

> 1-0

> Argentine

> Italy

>

> 1994

> Brazil

> 3-2

> Italy

> USA

>

> 1998

> France

> 3-0

> Brazil

> France

>

> 2002

> Brazil

> 2-0

> Germany

> Korea/Japan

>

>

>

>

> Best wishes,

>

>

>

> Jorge

>

>

>

>

> SAMVA

[sAMVA ]

On

Behalf Of Vyas Munidas

> domingo, 2 de Julho de 2006 07:04

> SAMVA

> Re: Football World Cup

>

>

>

> Dear Jorge (and list),

>

> I'd love to hear everyone's opinion on the outcome, especially

the good

> Professor. I'll pitch my two cents once I've had a chance to

look at the

> charts.

>

> Here's the schedule:

>

> TUESDAY 4 JULY

> Germany v Italy (semi-final, 20:00 BST)

>

> WEDNESDAY 5 JULY

> Portugal v France (semi-final, 20:00 BST)

>

> SUNDAY 9 JULY

> (Final, 19:00 BST)

>

> Best regards,

>

> Vyas Munidas

>

> -

> " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino

> <SAMVA >

> Saturday, July 01, 2006 5:37 PM

> FW: Football World Cup

>

> Dear List,

>

> My reasoning was due to the fact of Mars, L2, being over the

MEP5, in Brazil

> rectified chart.

>

> But the fact of Jupiter being stronger in the France rectified

chart decided

> the result.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Jorge

>

>

> Jorge Angelino [jorge.angelino]

> sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 21:11

> 'SAMVA '

> RE: Football World Cup

>

> Brazil will win

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Jorge

>

>

> SAMVA

[sAMVA ]

On

Behalf Of Vyas

> Munidas

> sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 20:12

> SAMVA

> Re: Football World Cup

>

> Good work Jorge!

>

> Brazil vs France next, what's your take?

>

> Best regards,

>

> Vyas Munidas

>

> -

> " Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK

> " jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino

> <HYPERLINK " SAMVA%40 " SAMVA

> Saturday, July 01, 2006 1:47 PM

> FW: Football World Cup

>

> Dear List,

>

> SA works ALWAYS!!!

>

> We should be always grateful for that.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Jorge

>

>

> Jorge Angelino [HYPERLINK

> " jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino]

> sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 06:17

> HYPERLINK " %27SAMVA%40 " 'SAMVA'

> RE: Football World Cup

>

> Good idea Pierre!

>

> NEXT WORLD CUP GAME: Saturday 1 July - England v Portugal 1600

BST

>

> Dasha: Ma/Ra/Ra/Ve/-Ma

>

> Dasha: Ju/Ve/Sa/Ju/-Ma

>

> Among many other influences, both have L12 over MEP10, but in

England the

> affliction is exact weakening transit Jupiter.

>

> Portugal will win as transit Jupiter and Venus are strong.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Jorge

>

>

> HYPERLINK " SAMVA%40 " SAMVA

 

> [HYPERLINK " SAMVA%40 " SAMVA]

On

> Behalf Of

> pierre touchard

> sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 00:23

> HYPERLINK " SAMVA%40 " SAMVA

> Football World Cup

>

> 

>

> Ok folks,

>

> How about something fun... Nobody loves football here ?

>

> I am having a little fun predicting cup matches. Using SA

classics I

> predicted (to my wife) that, for a start, France would win

against its last

> two opponents, Togo and Spain, despite the general feeling that

Spain would

> win. Tomorow I think that Brasil will beat France.

>

> Of course, I put all feelings aside. Only astrology, no

sentiments..-..

>

> Lets have your bets, folks, what are you, astrologers ?

>

> Pierre T

>

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[Guest guest]

Congratulations to Mr. Ramanuja Das, Mr. Pierre Touchard and others

(who predicted for Italy win )for their successfuly prediction.

 

 

[Guest guest]

CONGRATULATIONS TO ONE AND ALL FOR PREDICTING ITALY TO WIN!

 

Best Wishes to All SA friends and family alike,

 

Arun

 

SAMVA , " V K CHOUDHRY " <siha wrote:

>

> Congratulations to Mr. Ramanuja Das, Mr. Pierre Touchard and others

> (who predicted for Italy win )for their successfuly prediction.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Congratulations is due to who created this superb astrology method, Mr , without whom I am lost,

Pierre

 

 

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V K CHOUDHRY

SAMVA

Sunday, July 09, 2006 9:32 PM

Re: Football World Cup - FINAL: France v Italy

 

 

Congratulations to Mr. Ramanuja Das, Mr. Pierre Touchard and others (who predicted for Italy win )for their successfuly prediction.