RE: Football World Cup - FINAL: France v Germany

[Guest guest]

SUNDAY 9 JULY

(Final, 19:00 BST)

 

 

France dasha: Sa/Ma/Sa/Ve/Sa

 

Transit Jupiter and transit Venus are

strong.

 

Germany dasha: Sa/Ke/Mo/Ke/Su

 

Transit Jupiter and transit Venus are

strong.

 

France seems to be the winner, as it runs a better sub-period.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Vyas

Munidas

domingo, 2 de Julho de 2006 07:04

SAMVA

Re: Football

World Cup

 

 

 

 

Dear Jorge (and

list),

 

I'd love to hear everyone's opinion on the outcome, especially the good

Professor. I'll pitch my two cents once I've had a chance to look at the

charts.

 

Here's the schedule:

 

TUESDAY 4 JULY

Germany v Italy (semi-final, 20:00 BST)

 

WEDNESDAY 5 JULY

Portugal v France (semi-final, 20:00 BST)

 

SUNDAY 9 JULY

(Final, 19:00 BST)

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

 

-

" Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt>

<SAMVA >

Saturday, July 01, 2006 5:37 PM

FW: Football World Cup

 

Dear List,

 

My reasoning was due to the fact of Mars, L2, being over the MEP5, in Brazil

rectified chart.

 

But the fact of Jupiter being stronger in the France rectified chart decided

the result.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

Jorge Angelino [jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt]

sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 21:11

'SAMVA '

RE: Football World Cup

 

Brazil will win

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ]

On Behalf Of Vyas

Munidas

sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 20:12

SAMVA

Re: Football World Cup

 

Good work Jorge!

 

Brazil vs France next, what's your take?

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

 

-

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Saturday, July 01, 2006 1:47 PM

FW: Football World Cup

 

Dear List,

 

SA works ALWAYS!!!

 

We should be always grateful for that.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

Jorge Angelino [HYPERLINK

" jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt]

sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 06:17

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RE: Football World Cup

 

Good idea Pierre!

 

NEXT WORLD CUP GAME: Saturday 1 July - England v Portugal 1600 BST

 

Dasha: Ma/Ra/Ra/Ve/-Ma

 

Dasha: Ju/Ve/Sa/Ju/-Ma

 

Among many other influences, both have L12 over MEP10, but in England the

affliction is exact weakening transit Jupiter.

 

Portugal will win as transit Jupiter and Venus are strong.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

HYPERLINK " SAMVA%40 " SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com

 

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sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 00:23

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Football World Cup

 



 

Ok folks,

 

How about something fun... Nobody loves football here ?

 

I am having a little fun predicting cup matches. Using SA classics I

predicted (to my wife) that, for a start, France would win against its last

two opponents, Togo and Spain, despite the general feeling that Spain would

win. Tomorow I think that Brasil will beat France.

 

Of course, I put all feelings aside. Only astrology, no sentiments..-..

 

Lets have your bets, folks, what are you, astrologers ?

 

Pierre T

 

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Dear Jorge

 

Congratulations for your football accurate predictions.

I'm sure France Protugal next wednesday will be a great moment.

Hope you'll be interested by Zidane's chart, captain of the french team.

Nodes'transits are not favorable for him but " good luck " and " intelligence "

works anyway.

 

All the best

Jo Cohen

 

-

" Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino

<SAMVA >

Sunday, July 02, 2006 10:35 AM

RE: Football World Cup - FINAL: France v Germany

 

 

SUNDAY 9 JULY

(Final, 19:00 BST)

 

 

 

France dasha: Sa/Ma/Sa/Ve/Sa

 

 

 

Transit Jupiter and transit Venus are strong.

 

 

 

Germany dasha: Sa/Ke/Mo/Ke/Su

 

 

 

Transit Jupiter and transit Venus are strong.

 

 

 

France seems to be the winner, as it runs a better sub-period.

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Vyas

Munidas

domingo, 2 de Julho de 2006 07:04

SAMVA

Re: Football World Cup

 

 

 

Dear Jorge (and list),

 

I'd love to hear everyone's opinion on the outcome, especially the good

Professor. I'll pitch my two cents once I've had a chance to look at the

charts.

 

Here's the schedule:

 

TUESDAY 4 JULY

Germany v Italy (semi-final, 20:00 BST)

 

WEDNESDAY 5 JULY

Portugal v France (semi-final, 20:00 BST)

 

SUNDAY 9 JULY

(Final, 19:00 BST)

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

 

-

" Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK

" jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt>

<HYPERLINK " SAMVA%40 " SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com>

Saturday, July 01, 2006 5:37 PM

FW: Football World Cup

 

Dear List,

 

My reasoning was due to the fact of Mars, L2, being over the MEP5, in Brazil

rectified chart.

 

But the fact of Jupiter being stronger in the France rectified chart decided

the result.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

Jorge Angelino [HYPERLINK

" jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt]

sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 21:11

HYPERLINK " %27SAMVA%40 " 'SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com'

RE: Football World Cup

 

Brazil will win

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

HYPERLINK " SAMVA%40 " SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com

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Munidas

sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 20:12

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Re: Football World Cup

 

Good work Jorge!

 

Brazil vs France next, what's your take?

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

 

-

" Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK

" jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt>

<HYPERLINK " SAMVA%-40.-com " SAMVA@-.--com>

Saturday, July 01, 2006 1:47 PM

FW: Football World Cup

 

Dear List,

 

SA works ALWAYS!!!

 

We should be always grateful for that.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

Jorge Angelino [HYPERLINK

" jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt]

sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 06:17

HYPERLINK

" %27SAMVA%-40.-com " 'SAMVA@-.--com'

RE: Football World Cup

 

Good idea Pierre!

 

NEXT WORLD CUP GAME: Saturday 1 July - England v Portugal 1600 BST

 

Dasha: Ma/Ra/Ra/Ve/--Ma

 

Dasha: Ju/Ve/Sa/Ju/--Ma

 

Among many other influences, both have L12 over MEP10, but in England the

affliction is exact weakening transit Jupiter.

 

Portugal will win as transit Jupiter and Venus are strong.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

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sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 00:23

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Football World Cup

 



 

Ok folks,

 

How about something fun... Nobody loves football here ?

 

I am having a little fun predicting cup matches. Using SA classics I

predicted (to my wife) that, for a start, France would win against its last

two opponents, Togo and Spain, despite the general feeling that Spain would

win. Tomorow I think that Brasil will beat France.

 

Of course, I put all feelings aside. Only astrology, no sentiments..--..

 

Lets have your bets, folks, what are you, astrologers ?

 

Pierre T

 

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Dear Jo

Cohen,

 

Thank you for your kind words.

 

Let us see what happens next Wednesday.

 

Zidane’s chart is always welcome. Thanks a

lot.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Jo

Cohen

domingo, 2 de Julho de 2006

15:56

SAMVA

Re: Football

World Cup - FINAL: France v Germany

 

 

 

 

Dear Jorge

 

Congratulations for your football accurate predictions.

I'm sure France Protugal next wednesday will be a great moment.

Hope you'll be interested by Zidane's chart, captain of the french team.

Nodes'transits are not favorable for him but " good luck " and

" intelligence "

works anyway.

 

All the best

Jo Cohen

 

-

" Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt>

<SAMVA >

Sunday, July 02, 2006 10:35 AM

RE: Football World Cup - FINAL: France v Germany

 

SUNDAY 9 JULY

(Final, 19:00 BST)

 

France dasha: Sa/Ma/Sa/Ve/Sa

 

Transit Jupiter and transit Venus are strong.

 

Germany dasha: Sa/Ke/Mo/Ke/Su

 

Transit Jupiter and transit Venus are strong.

 

France seems to be the winner, as it runs a better sub-period.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ]

On Behalf Of Vyas

Munidas

domingo, 2 de Julho de 2006 07:04

SAMVA

Re: Football World Cup

 

Dear Jorge (and list),

 

I'd love to hear everyone's opinion on the outcome, especially the good

Professor. I'll pitch my two cents once I've had a chance to look at the

charts.

 

Here's the schedule:

 

TUESDAY 4 JULY

Germany v Italy (semi-final, 20:00 BST)

 

WEDNESDAY 5 JULY

Portugal v France (semi-final, 20:00 BST)

 

SUNDAY 9 JULY

(Final, 19:00 BST)

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

 

-

" Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK

" jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt>

<HYPERLINK " SAMVA%40 " SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com>

Saturday, July 01, 2006 5:37 PM

FW: Football World Cup

 

Dear List,

 

My reasoning was due to the fact of Mars, L2, being over the MEP5, in Brazil

rectified chart.

 

But the fact of Jupiter being stronger in the France rectified chart decided

the result.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

Jorge Angelino [HYPERLINK

" jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt]

sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 21:11

HYPERLINK " %27SAMVA%40 " 'SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com'

RE: Football World Cup

 

Brazil will win

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

HYPERLINK " SAMVA%40 " SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com

[HYPERLINK " SAMVA%40 " SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com]

On

Behalf Of Vyas

Munidas

sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 20:12

HYPERLINK " SAMVA%40 " SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com

Re: Football World Cup

 

Good work Jorge!

 

Brazil vs France next, what's your take?

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

 

-

" Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK

" jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt>

<HYPERLINK " SAMVA%-40.-com " SAMVA@-.--com>

Saturday, July 01, 2006 1:47 PM

FW: Football World Cup

 

Dear List,

 

SA works ALWAYS!!!

 

We should be always grateful for that.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

Jorge Angelino [HYPERLINK

" jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt]

sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 06:17

HYPERLINK

" %27SAMVA%-40.-com " 'SAMVA@-.--com'

RE: Football World Cup

 

Good idea Pierre!

 

NEXT WORLD CUP GAME: Saturday 1 July - England v Portugal 1600 BST

 

Dasha: Ma/Ra/Ra/Ve/--Ma

 

Dasha: Ju/Ve/Sa/Ju/--Ma

 

Among many other influences, both have L12 over MEP10, but in England the

affliction is exact weakening transit Jupiter.

 

Portugal will win as transit Jupiter and Venus are strong.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

HYPERLINK " SAMVA%-40.-com " SAMVA@-.--com

[HYPERLINK

" SAMVA%-40.-com " SAMVA@-.--com]

On

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pierre touchard

sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 00:23

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Football World Cup

 



 

Ok folks,

 

How about something fun... Nobody loves football here ?

 

I am having a little fun predicting cup matches. Using SA classics I

predicted (to my wife) that, for a start, France would win against its last

two opponents, Togo and Spain, despite the general feeling that Spain would

win. Tomorow I think that Brasil will beat France.

 

Of course, I put all feelings aside. Only astrology, no sentiments..--..

 

Lets have your bets, folks, what are you, astrologers ?

 

Pierre T

 

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Just a thought on this football amusement. We can have fun deciding results on transit strength to a national chart. But it does not take into account numerous factors. For instance, even if a nation has strang chart and transits, if its new to the sport and has weak players, they wont win. The national chart will not show this. Also, as perhaps suggested by Jo (salut Jo!!) if key players have horrible personal transits,that may override national charts.

 

Best to all

Pierre

 

 

-

Jo Cohen

SAMVA

Sunday, July 02, 2006 10:55 AM

Re: Football World Cup - FINAL: France v Germany

 

 

Dear JorgeCongratulations for your football accurate predictions.I'm sure France Protugal next wednesday will be a great moment.Hope you'll be interested by Zidane's chart, captain of the french team.Nodes'transits are not favorable for him but "good luck" and "intelligence" works anyway.All the bestJo Cohen- "Jorge Angelino" <jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt><SAMVA >Sunday, July 02, 2006 10:35 AMRE: Football World Cup - FINAL: France v GermanySUNDAY 9 JULY(Final, 19:00 BST)France dasha: Sa/Ma/Sa/Ve/SaTransit Jupiter and transit Venus are strong.Germany dasha: Sa/Ke/Mo/Ke/SuTransit Jupiter and transit Venus are strong.France seems to be the winner, as it runs a better sub-period.Best wishes,JorgeSAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of VyasMunidasdomingo, 2 de Julho de 2006 07:04SAMVA Subject: Re: Football World CupDear Jorge (and list),I'd love to hear everyone's opinion on the outcome, especially the goodProfessor. I'll pitch my two cents once I've had a chance to look at thecharts.Here's the schedule:TUESDAY 4 JULYGermany v Italy (semi-final, 20:00 BST)WEDNESDAY 5 JULYPortugal v France (semi-final, 20:00 BST)SUNDAY 9 JULY(Final, 19:00 BST)Best regards,Vyas Munidas- "Jorge Angelino" <HYPERLINK"jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt"jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt><HYPERLINK "SAMVA%40"SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com>Saturday, July 01, 2006 5:37 PMFW: Football World CupDear List,My reasoning was due to the fact of Mars, L2, being over the MEP5, in Brazilrectified chart.But the fact of Jupiter being stronger in the France rectified chart decidedthe result.Best wishes,JorgeJorge Angelino [HYPERLINK"jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt"jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt]sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 21:11HYPERLINK "%27SAMVA%40"'SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com'RE: Football World CupBrazil will winBest wishes,JorgeHYPERLINK "SAMVA%40"SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com[HYPERLINK "SAMVA%40"SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com] OnBehalf Of VyasMunidassábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 20:12HYPERLINK "SAMVA%40"SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -comRe: Football World CupGood work Jorge!Brazil vs France next, what's your take?Best regards,Vyas Munidas- "Jorge Angelino" <HYPERLINK"jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt"jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt><HYPERLINK "SAMVA%-40.-com"SAMVA@-.--com>Saturday, July 01, 2006 1:47 PMFW: Football World CupDear List,SA works ALWAYS!!!We should be always grateful for that.Best wishes,JorgeJorge Angelino [HYPERLINK"jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt"jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt]sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 06:17HYPERLINK"%27SAMVA%-40.-com"'SAMVA@-.--com'RE: Football World CupGood idea Pierre!NEXT WORLD CUP GAME: Saturday 1 July - England v Portugal 1600 BSTDasha: Ma/Ra/Ra/Ve/--MaDasha: Ju/Ve/Sa/Ju/--MaAmong many other influences, both have L12 over MEP10, but in England theaffliction is exact weakening transit Jupiter.Portugal will win as transit Jupiter and Venus are strong.Best wishes,JorgeHYPERLINK "SAMVA%-40.-com"SAMVA@-.--com[HYPERLINK"SAMVA%-40.-com"SAMVA@-.--com] OnBehalf Ofpierre touchardsábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 00:23HYPERLINK "SAMVA%-40.-com"SAMVA@-.--com Football World CupOk folks,How about something fun... Nobody loves football here ?I am having a little fun predicting cup matches. Using SA classics Ipredicted (to my wife) that, for a start, France would win against its lasttwo opponents, Togo and Spain, despite the general feeling that Spain wouldwin. Tomorow I think that Brasil will beat France.Of course, I put all feelings aside. Only astrology, no sentiments..--..Lets have your bets, folks, what are you, astrologers ?Pierre T--Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.7/379 - Release 29.06.2006--Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.7/379 - Release 29.06.2006-- Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.8/380 - Release 30.06.2006--Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.8/380 - Release 30.06.2006--Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.8/380 - Release 30.06.2006-- Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.8/380 - Release 30.06.2006--Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.8/380 - Release 30.06.2006-- Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.8/380 - Release 30.06.2006

[Guest guest]

Hello Pierre

 

Please send an email on my pricate mailbox.

 

Best regards

Jo

-

" pierre touchard " <pierretouchard

<SAMVA >

Sunday, July 02, 2006 6:09 PM

Re: Football World Cup - FINAL: France v Germany

 

 

Just a thought on this football amusement. We can have fun deciding

results on transit strength to a national chart. But it does not take into

account numerous factors. For instance, even if a nation has strang chart

and transits, if its new to the sport and has weak players, they wont win.

The national chart will not show this. Also, as perhaps suggested by Jo

(salut Jo!!) if key players have horrible personal transits,that may

override national charts.

 

Best to all

Pierre

 

-

Jo Cohen

SAMVA

Sunday, July 02, 2006 10:55 AM

Re: Football World Cup - FINAL: France v Germany

 

 

Dear Jorge

 

Congratulations for your football accurate predictions.

I'm sure France Protugal next wednesday will be a great moment.

Hope you'll be interested by Zidane's chart, captain of the french team.

Nodes'transits are not favorable for him but " good luck " and

" intelligence "

works anyway.

 

All the best

Jo Cohen

 

-

" Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino

<SAMVA >

Sunday, July 02, 2006 10:35 AM

RE: Football World Cup - FINAL: France v Germany

 

SUNDAY 9 JULY

(Final, 19:00 BST)

 

France dasha: Sa/Ma/Sa/Ve/Sa

 

Transit Jupiter and transit Venus are strong.

 

Germany dasha: Sa/Ke/Mo/Ke/Su

 

Transit Jupiter and transit Venus are strong.

 

France seems to be the winner, as it runs a better sub-period.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of

Vyas

Munidas

domingo, 2 de Julho de 2006 07:04

SAMVA

Re: Football World Cup

 

Dear Jorge (and list),

 

I'd love to hear everyone's opinion on the outcome, especially the good

Professor. I'll pitch my two cents once I've had a chance to look at the

charts.

 

Here's the schedule:

 

TUESDAY 4 JULY

Germany v Italy (semi-final, 20:00 BST)

 

WEDNESDAY 5 JULY

Portugal v France (semi-final, 20:00 BST)

 

SUNDAY 9 JULY

(Final, 19:00 BST)

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

 

-

" Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK

" jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt>

<HYPERLINK " SAMVA%40 " SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com>

Saturday, July 01, 2006 5:37 PM

FW: Football World Cup

 

Dear List,

 

My reasoning was due to the fact of Mars, L2, being over the MEP5, in

Brazil

rectified chart.

 

But the fact of Jupiter being stronger in the France rectified chart

decided

the result.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

Jorge Angelino [HYPERLINK

" jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt]

sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 21:11

HYPERLINK " %27SAMVA%40 " 'SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com'

RE: Football World Cup

 

Brazil will win

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

HYPERLINK " SAMVA%40 " SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com

[HYPERLINK " SAMVA%40 " SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com]

On

Behalf Of Vyas

Munidas

sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 20:12

HYPERLINK " SAMVA%40 " SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com

Re: Football World Cup

 

Good work Jorge!

 

Brazil vs France next, what's your take?

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

 

-

" Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK

" jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt>

<HYPERLINK " SAMVA%-40.-com " SAMVA@-.--com>

Saturday, July 01, 2006 1:47 PM

FW: Football World Cup

 

Dear List,

 

SA works ALWAYS!!!

 

We should be always grateful for that.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

Jorge Angelino [HYPERLINK

" jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt]

sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 06:17

HYPERLINK

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RE: Football World Cup

 

Good idea Pierre!

 

NEXT WORLD CUP GAME: Saturday 1 July - England v Portugal 1600 BST

 

Dasha: Ma/Ra/Ra/Ve/--Ma

 

Dasha: Ju/Ve/Sa/Ju/--Ma

 

Among many other influences, both have L12 over MEP10, but in England the

affliction is exact weakening transit Jupiter.

 

Portugal will win as transit Jupiter and Venus are strong.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

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Football World Cup

 



 

Ok folks,

 

How about something fun... Nobody loves football here ?

 

I am having a little fun predicting cup matches. Using SA classics I

predicted (to my wife) that, for a start, France would win against its

last

two opponents, Togo and Spain, despite the general feeling that Spain

would

win. Tomorow I think that Brasil will beat France.

 

Of course, I put all feelings aside. Only astrology, no sentiments..--..

 

Lets have your bets, folks, what are you, astrologers ?

 

Pierre T

 

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My dear

Pierre,

 

I think all these different kinds of conditioning

are implicit in each national chart… even the available spiritual strenght of the national

consciousness of that country to overcome all of them is also in the chart (the

strenght of Jupiter and the Sun). The problem is that most of the times we are

not able to “read†everything…

 

Best wishes,

Jorge

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On Behalf Of pierre

touchard

domingo, 2 de Julho de 2006

17:10

SAMVA

Re: Football

World Cup - FINAL: France v Germany

 

 

 

 



 

 

 

Just a thought on this football

amusement. We can have fun deciding results on transit strength to

a national chart. But it does not take into account numerous

factors. For instance, even if a nation has strang chart and transits, if

its new to the sport and has weak players, they wont win. The national

chart will not show this. Also, as perhaps suggested by Jo (salut Jo!!)

if key players have horrible personal transits,that may override national

charts.

 

 

 

 

 

Best to all

 

 

Pierre

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

 

Jo Cohen

 

 

SAMVA

 

 

 

Sunday,

July 02, 2006 10:55 AM

 

 

Re:

Football World Cup - FINAL: France v Germany

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Jorge

 

Congratulations for your football accurate predictions.

I'm sure France Protugal next wednesday will be a great moment.

Hope you'll be interested by Zidane's chart, captain of the french team.

Nodes'transits are not favorable for him but " good luck " and

" intelligence "

works anyway.

 

All the best

Jo Cohen

 

-

" Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt>

<SAMVA >

Sunday, July 02, 2006 10:35 AM

RE: Football World Cup - FINAL: France v Germany

 

SUNDAY 9 JULY

(Final, 19:00 BST)

 

France dasha: Sa/Ma/Sa/Ve/Sa

 

Transit Jupiter and transit Venus are strong.

 

Germany dasha: Sa/Ke/Mo/Ke/Su

 

Transit Jupiter and transit Venus are strong.

 

France seems to be the winner, as it runs a better sub-period.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ]

On Behalf Of Vyas

Munidas

domingo, 2 de Julho de 2006 07:04

SAMVA

Re: Football World Cup

 

Dear Jorge (and list),

 

I'd love to hear everyone's opinion on the outcome, especially the good

Professor. I'll pitch my two cents once I've had a chance to look at the

charts.

 

Here's the schedule:

 

TUESDAY 4 JULY

Germany v Italy (semi-final, 20:00 BST)

 

WEDNESDAY 5 JULY

Portugal v France (semi-final, 20:00 BST)

 

SUNDAY 9 JULY

(Final, 19:00 BST)

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

 

-

" Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK

" jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt>

<HYPERLINK " SAMVA%40 " SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com>

Saturday, July 01, 2006 5:37 PM

FW: Football World Cup

 

Dear List,

 

My reasoning was due to the fact of Mars, L2, being over the MEP5, in Brazil

rectified chart.

 

But the fact of Jupiter being stronger in the France rectified chart decided

the result.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

Jorge Angelino [HYPERLINK

" jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt]

sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 21:11

HYPERLINK " %27SAMVA%40 " 'SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com'

RE: Football World Cup

 

Brazil will win

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

HYPERLINK " SAMVA%40 " SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com

[HYPERLINK " SAMVA%40 " SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com]

On

Behalf Of Vyas

Munidas

sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 20:12

HYPERLINK " SAMVA%40 " SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com

Re: Football World Cup

 

Good work Jorge!

 

Brazil vs France next, what's your take?

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

 

-

" Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK

" jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt>

<HYPERLINK " SAMVA%-40.-com " SAMVA@-.--com>

Saturday, July 01, 2006 1:47 PM

FW: Football World Cup

 

Dear List,

 

SA works ALWAYS!!!

 

We should be always grateful for that.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

Jorge Angelino [HYPERLINK

" jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt]

sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 06:17

HYPERLINK

" %27SAMVA%-40.-com " 'SAMVA@-.--com'

RE: Football World Cup

 

Good idea Pierre!

 

NEXT WORLD CUP GAME: Saturday 1 July - England v Portugal 1600 BST

 

Dasha: Ma/Ra/Ra/Ve/--Ma

 

Dasha: Ju/Ve/Sa/Ju/--Ma

 

Among many other influences, both have L12 over MEP10, but in England the

affliction is exact weakening transit Jupiter.

 

Portugal will win as transit Jupiter and Venus are strong.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

HYPERLINK " SAMVA%-40.-com " SAMVA@-.--com

[HYPERLINK

" SAMVA%-40.-com " SAMVA@-.--com]

On

Behalf Of

pierre touchard

sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 00:23

HYPERLINK " SAMVA%-40.-com " SAMVA@-.--com

Football World Cup

 



 

Ok folks,

 

How about something fun... Nobody loves football here ?

 

I am having a little fun predicting cup matches. Using SA classics I

predicted (to my wife) that, for a start, France would win against its last

two opponents, Togo and Spain, despite the general feeling that Spain would

win. Tomorow I think that Brasil will beat France.

 

Of course, I put all feelings aside. Only astrology, no sentiments..--..

 

Lets have your bets, folks, what are you, astrologers ?

 

Pierre T

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Jorge, Pierre and List,

 

I echo Jorge's words. The errors I make in understanding mass psychology of

markets are as a result of the limitations of my gross and subtle senses.

With the right chart and perfect perspective, flawless readings are possible

of both human and mundane affairs. Hindsight readings are always 20/20.

 

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

 

 

 

-

" Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino

<SAMVA >

Sunday, July 02, 2006 2:24 PM

RE: Football World Cup - FINAL: France v Germany

 

 

My dear Pierre,

 

 

 

I think all these different kinds of conditioning are implicit in each

national chart… even the available spiritual strenght of the national

consciousness of that country to overcome all of them is also in the chart

(the strenght of Jupiter and the Sun). The problem is that most of the times

we are not able to “read†everything…

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of

pierre touchard

domingo, 2 de Julho de 2006 17:10

SAMVA

Re: Football World Cup - FINAL: France v Germany

 

 

 



 

Just a thought on this football amusement. We can have fun deciding

results on transit strength to a national chart. But it does not take into

account numerous factors. For instance, even if a nation has strang chart

and transits, if its new to the sport and has weak players, they wont win.

The national chart will not show this. Also, as perhaps suggested by Jo

(salut Jo!!) if key players have horrible personal transits,that may

override national charts.

 

 

 

Best to all

 

Pierre

 

 

 

-

 

HYPERLINK " jo.cohen1 " Jo Cohen

 

HYPERLINK " SAMVA " SAMVA

 

Sunday, July 02, 2006 10:55 AM

 

Re: Football World Cup - FINAL: France v Germany

 

 

 

Dear Jorge

 

Congratulations for your football accurate predictions.

I'm sure France Protugal next wednesday will be a great moment.

Hope you'll be interested by Zidane's chart, captain of the french team.

Nodes'transits are not favorable for him but " good luck " and " intelligence "

works anyway.

 

All the best

Jo Cohen

 

-

" Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK

" jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt>

<HYPERLINK " SAMVA%40 " SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com>

Sunday, July 02, 2006 10:35 AM

RE: Football World Cup - FINAL: France v Germany

 

SUNDAY 9 JULY

(Final, 19:00 BST)

 

France dasha: Sa/Ma/Sa/Ve/-Sa

 

Transit Jupiter and transit Venus are strong.

 

Germany dasha: Sa/Ke/Mo/Ke/-Su

 

Transit Jupiter and transit Venus are strong.

 

France seems to be the winner, as it runs a better sub-period.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

HYPERLINK " SAMVA%40 " SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com

[HYPERLINK " SAMVA%40 " SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com] On

Behalf Of Vyas

Munidas

domingo, 2 de Julho de 2006 07:04

HYPERLINK " SAMVA%40 " SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com

Re: Football World Cup

 

Dear Jorge (and list),

 

I'd love to hear everyone's opinion on the outcome, especially the good

Professor. I'll pitch my two cents once I've had a chance to look at the

charts.

 

Here's the schedule:

 

TUESDAY 4 JULY

Germany v Italy (semi-final, 20:00 BST)

 

WEDNESDAY 5 JULY

Portugal v France (semi-final, 20:00 BST)

 

SUNDAY 9 JULY

(Final, 19:00 BST)

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

 

-

" Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK

" jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt>

<HYPERLINK " SAMVA%-40.-com " SAMVA@-.--com>

Saturday, July 01, 2006 5:37 PM

FW: Football World Cup

 

Dear List,

 

My reasoning was due to the fact of Mars, L2, being over the MEP5, in Brazil

rectified chart.

 

But the fact of Jupiter being stronger in the France rectified chart decided

the result.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

Jorge Angelino [HYPERLINK

" jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt]

sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 21:11

HYPERLINK

" %27SAMVA%-40.-com " 'SAMVA@-.--com'

RE: Football World Cup

 

Brazil will win

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

HYPERLINK " SAMVA%-40.-com " SAMVA@-.--com

[HYPERLINK

" SAMVA%-40.-com " SAMVA@-.--com] On

Behalf Of Vyas

Munidas

sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 20:12

HYPERLINK " SAMVA%-40.-com " SAMVA@-.--com

Re: Football World Cup

 

Good work Jorge!

 

Brazil vs France next, what's your take?

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

 

-

" Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK

" jorge.--angelino%--40netvisao.--pt " jorge.--angelino@---netvisao.---pt>

<HYPERLINK

" SAMVA%--40.--com " SAMVA@--.---com>

Saturday, July 01, 2006 1:47 PM

FW: Football World Cup

 

Dear List,

 

SA works ALWAYS!!!

 

We should be always grateful for that.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

Jorge Angelino [HYPERLINK

" jorge.--angelino%--40netvisao.--pt " jorge.--angelino@---netvisao.---pt]

sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 06:17

HYPERLINK

" %27SAMVA%--40.--com " 'SAMVA@--.---com'

RE: Football World Cup

 

Good idea Pierre!

 

NEXT WORLD CUP GAME: Saturday 1 July - England v Portugal 1600 BST

 

Dasha: Ma/Ra/Ra/Ve/---Ma

 

Dasha: Ju/Ve/Sa/Ju/---Ma

 

Among many other influences, both have L12 over MEP10, but in England the

affliction is exact weakening transit Jupiter.

 

Portugal will win as transit Jupiter and Venus are strong.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

HYPERLINK

" SAMVA%--40.--com " SAMVA@--.---com

[HYPERLINK

" SAMVA%--40.--com " SAMVA@--.---com] On

Behalf Of

pierre touchard

sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 00:23

HYPERLINK " SAMVA%--40.--com " SAMVA@--.---com

Football World Cup

 



 

Ok folks,

 

How about something fun... Nobody loves football here ?

 

I am having a little fun predicting cup matches. Using SA classics I

predicted (to my wife) that, for a start, France would win against its last

two opponents, Togo and Spain, despite the general feeling that Spain would

win. Tomorow I think that Brasil will beat France.

 

Of course, I put all feelings aside. Only astrology, no sentiments..---..

 

Lets have your bets, folks, what are you, astrologers ?

 

Pierre T

 

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My dear

Vyas,

 

After researching Google to know what do

you mean by 20/20 and after reading what comes in http://science.howstuffworks.com/question126.htm

I must say that I agree 100% with you. With the correct chart, everyone with

some knowledge of SA can learn a lot from hindsight readings. Besides, it is a very

good exercise to get a deeper understanding of the Systems’ Approach to Vedic

Astrology, created by our dear Professor VK Choudhry. I strongly advise it.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Vyas

Munidas

domingo, 2 de Julho de 2006

21:32

SAMVA

Re: Football

World Cup - FINAL: France v Germany

 

 

 

 

Dear Jorge, Pierre

and List,

 

I echo Jorge's words. The errors I make in understanding mass psychology of

markets are as a result of the limitations of my gross and subtle senses.

With the right chart and perfect perspective, flawless readings are possible

of both human and mundane affairs. Hindsight readings are always 20/20.

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

 

-

" Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt>

<SAMVA >

Sunday, July 02, 2006 2:24 PM

RE: Football World Cup - FINAL: France v Germany

 

My dear Pierre,

 

I think all these different kinds of conditioning are implicit in each

national chart… even the available spiritual strenght of the national

consciousness of that country to overcome all of them is also in the chart

(the strenght of Jupiter and the Sun). The problem is that most of the times

we are not able to “read†everything…

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ]

On Behalf Of

pierre touchard

domingo, 2 de Julho de 2006 17:10

SAMVA

Re: Football World Cup - FINAL: France v Germany

 



 

Just a thought on this football amusement. We can have fun deciding

results on transit strength to a national chart. But it does not take into

account numerous factors. For instance, even if a nation has strang chart

and transits, if its new to the sport and has weak players, they wont win.

The national chart will not show this. Also, as perhaps suggested by Jo

(salut Jo!!) if key players have horrible personal transits,that may

override national charts.

 

Best to all

 

Pierre

 

-

 

HYPERLINK " jo.cohen1 (AT) free (DOT) fr " Jo

Cohen

 

HYPERLINK " SAMVA " SAMVA

 

Sunday, July 02, 2006 10:55 AM

 

Re: Football World Cup - FINAL: France v Germany

 

Dear Jorge

 

Congratulations for your football accurate predictions.

I'm sure France Protugal next wednesday will be a great moment.

Hope you'll be interested by Zidane's chart, captain of the french team.

Nodes'transits are not favorable for him but " good luck " and

" intelligence "

works anyway.

 

All the best

Jo Cohen

 

-

" Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK

" jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt>

<HYPERLINK " SAMVA%40 " SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com>

Sunday, July 02, 2006 10:35 AM

RE: Football World Cup - FINAL: France v Germany

 

SUNDAY 9 JULY

(Final, 19:00 BST)

 

France dasha: Sa/Ma/Sa/Ve/-Sa

 

Transit Jupiter and transit Venus are strong.

 

Germany dasha: Sa/Ke/Mo/Ke/-Su

 

Transit Jupiter and transit Venus are strong.

 

France seems to be the winner, as it runs a better sub-period.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

HYPERLINK " SAMVA%40 " SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com

 

[HYPERLINK " SAMVA%40 " SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com]

On

Behalf Of Vyas

Munidas

domingo, 2 de Julho de 2006 07:04

HYPERLINK " SAMVA%40 " SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com

Re: Football World Cup

 

Dear Jorge (and list),

 

I'd love to hear everyone's opinion on the outcome, especially the good

Professor. I'll pitch my two cents once I've had a chance to look at the

charts.

 

Here's the schedule:

 

TUESDAY 4 JULY

Germany v Italy (semi-final, 20:00 BST)

 

WEDNESDAY 5 JULY

Portugal v France (semi-final, 20:00 BST)

 

SUNDAY 9 JULY

(Final, 19:00 BST)

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

 

-

" Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK

" jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt>

<HYPERLINK " SAMVA%-40.-com " SAMVA@-.--com>

Saturday, July 01, 2006 5:37 PM

FW: Football World Cup

 

Dear List,

 

My reasoning was due to the fact of Mars, L2, being over the MEP5, in Brazil

rectified chart.

 

But the fact of Jupiter being stronger in the France rectified chart decided

the result.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

Jorge Angelino [HYPERLINK

" jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt]

sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 21:11

HYPERLINK

" %27SAMVA%-40.-com " 'SAMVA@-.--com'

RE: Football World Cup

 

Brazil will win

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

HYPERLINK " SAMVA%-40.-com " SAMVA@-.--com

[HYPERLINK

" SAMVA%-40.-com " SAMVA@-.--com]

On

Behalf Of Vyas

Munidas

sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 20:12

HYPERLINK " SAMVA%-40.-com " SAMVA@-.--com

Re: Football World Cup

 

Good work Jorge!

 

Brazil vs France next, what's your take?

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

 

-

" Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK

" jorge.--angelino%--40netvisao.--pt " jorge.--angelino@---netvisao.---pt>

<HYPERLINK

" SAMVA%--40.--com " SAMVA@--.---com>

Saturday, July 01, 2006 1:47 PM

FW: Football World Cup

 

Dear List,

 

SA works ALWAYS!!!

 

We should be always grateful for that.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

Jorge Angelino [HYPERLINK

" jorge.--angelino%--40netvisao.--pt " jorge.--angelino@---netvisao.---pt]

sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 06:17

HYPERLINK

" %27SAMVA%--40.--com " 'SAMVA@--.---com'

RE: Football World Cup

 

Good idea Pierre!

 

NEXT WORLD CUP GAME: Saturday 1 July - England v Portugal 1600 BST

 

Dasha: Ma/Ra/Ra/Ve/---Ma

 

Dasha: Ju/Ve/Sa/Ju/---Ma

 

Among many other influences, both have L12 over MEP10, but in England the

affliction is exact weakening transit Jupiter.

 

Portugal will win as transit Jupiter and Venus are strong.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

HYPERLINK

" SAMVA%--40.--com " SAMVA@--.---com

[HYPERLINK

" SAMVA%--40.--com " SAMVA@--.---com]

On

Behalf Of

pierre touchard

sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 00:23

HYPERLINK " SAMVA%--40.--com " SAMVA@--.---com

Football World Cup

 



 

Ok folks,

 

How about something fun... Nobody loves football here ?

 

I am having a little fun predicting cup matches. Using SA classics I

predicted (to my wife) that, for a start, France would win against its last

two opponents, Togo and Spain, despite the general feeling that Spain would

win. Tomorow I think that Brasil will beat France.

 

Of course, I put all feelings aside. Only astrology, no sentiments..---..

 

Lets have your bets, folks, what are you, astrologers ?

 

Pierre T

 

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Hello Jo

 

Depuis Montreal ou nous sommes depuis juin 05. J'espère que tout va bien pour vous et votre famille !! Je suis avec quelque intéret les événements en France toutefois. Nous songeons éventuellement à retrouner en Europe dans un futur indéterminé.

 

A bientôt Jo,

Bien à vous,

Pierre

 

 

 

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Jo Cohen

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Sunday, July 02, 2006 1:46 PM

Re: Football World Cup - FINAL: France v Germany

 

 

Hello PierrePlease send an email on my pricate mailbox.Best regardsJo- "pierre touchard" <pierretouchard (AT) sympatico (DOT) ca><SAMVA >Sunday, July 02, 2006 6:09 PMRe: Football World Cup - FINAL: France v GermanyJust a thought on this football amusement. We can have fun deciding results on transit strength to a national chart. But it does not take into account numerous factors. For instance, even if a nation has strang chart and transits, if its new to the sport and has weak players, they wont win. The national chart will not show this. Also, as perhaps suggested by Jo (salut Jo!!) if key players have horrible personal transits,that may override national charts.Best to allPierre- Jo CohenSAMVA Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2006 10:55 AMRe: Football World Cup - FINAL: France v GermanyDear JorgeCongratulations for your football accurate predictions.I'm sure France Protugal next wednesday will be a great moment.Hope you'll be interested by Zidane's chart, captain of the french team.Nodes'transits are not favorable for him but "good luck" and "intelligence"works anyway.All the bestJo Cohen- "Jorge Angelino" <jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt><SAMVA >Sunday, July 02, 2006 10:35 AMRE: Football World Cup - FINAL: France v GermanySUNDAY 9 JULY(Final, 19:00 BST)France dasha: Sa/Ma/Sa/Ve/SaTransit Jupiter and transit Venus are strong.Germany dasha: Sa/Ke/Mo/Ke/SuTransit Jupiter and transit Venus are strong.France seems to be the winner, as it runs a better sub-period.Best wishes,JorgeSAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of VyasMunidasdomingo, 2 de Julho de 2006 07:04SAMVA Subject: Re: Football World CupDear Jorge (and list),I'd love to hear everyone's opinion on the outcome, especially the goodProfessor. I'll pitch my two cents once I've had a chance to look at thecharts.Here's the schedule:TUESDAY 4 JULYGermany v Italy (semi-final, 20:00 BST)WEDNESDAY 5 JULYPortugal v France (semi-final, 20:00 BST)SUNDAY 9 JULY(Final, 19:00 BST)Best regards,Vyas Munidas- "Jorge Angelino" <HYPERLINK"jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt"jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt><HYPERLINK "SAMVA%40"SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com>Saturday, July 01, 2006 5:37 PMFW: Football World CupDear List,My reasoning was due to the fact of Mars, L2, being over the MEP5, in Brazilrectified chart.But the fact of Jupiter being stronger in the France rectified chart decidedthe result.Best wishes,JorgeJorge Angelino [HYPERLINK"jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt"jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt]sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 21:11HYPERLINK "%27SAMVA%40"'SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com'RE: Football World CupBrazil will winBest wishes,JorgeHYPERLINK "SAMVA%40"SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com[HYPERLINK "SAMVA%40"SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com] OnBehalf Of VyasMunidassábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 20:12HYPERLINK "SAMVA%40"SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -comRe: Football World CupGood work Jorge!Brazil vs France next, what's your take?Best regards,Vyas Munidas- "Jorge Angelino" <HYPERLINK"jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt"jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt><HYPERLINK "SAMVA%-40.-com"SAMVA@-.--com>Saturday, July 01, 2006 1:47 PMFW: Football World CupDear List,SA works ALWAYS!!!We should be always grateful for that.Best wishes,JorgeJorge Angelino [HYPERLINK"jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt"jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt]sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 06:17HYPERLINK"%27SAMVA%-40.-com"'SAMVA@-.--com'RE: Football World CupGood idea Pierre!NEXT WORLD CUP GAME: Saturday 1 July - England v Portugal 1600 BSTDasha: Ma/Ra/Ra/Ve/--MaDasha: Ju/Ve/Sa/Ju/--MaAmong many other influences, both have L12 over MEP10, but in England theaffliction is exact weakening transit Jupiter.Portugal will win as transit Jupiter and Venus are strong.Best wishes,JorgeHYPERLINK "SAMVA%-40.-com"SAMVA@-.--com[HYPERLINK"SAMVA%-40.-com"SAMVA@-.--com] OnBehalf Ofpierre touchardsábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 00:23HYPERLINK "SAMVA%-40.-com"SAMVA@-.--com Football World CupOk folks,How about something fun... Nobody loves football here ?I am having a little fun predicting cup matches. Using SA classics Ipredicted (to my wife) that, for a start, France would win against its lasttwo opponents, Togo and Spain, despite the general feeling that Spain wouldwin. Tomorow I think that Brasil will beat France.Of course, I put all feelings aside. Only astrology, no sentiments..--..Lets have your bets, folks, what are you, astrologers ?Pierre T--Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.7/379 - Release 29.06.2006--Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.7/379 - Release 29.06.2006-- Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.8/380 - Release 30.06.2006--Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.8/380 - Release 30.06.2006--Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.8/380 - Release 30.06.2006-- Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.8/380 - Release 30.06.2006--Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.8/380 - Release 30.06.2006-- Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.8/380 - Release 30.06.2006

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Hello Jorge

 

This your thought needs my attention. It suggests something of the order of a strong country chart with strong transits will imply that the country is able to get strong players ... ?

 

Best to you dear

Pierre

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My dear Pierre,

 

I think all these different kinds of conditioning are implicit in each national chart… even the available spiritual strenght of the national consciousness of that country to overcome all of them is also in the chart (the strenght of Jupiter and the Sun). The problem is that most of the times we are not able to “read†everything…

 

Best wishes,

Jorge

 

SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of pierre toucharddomingo, 2 de Julho de 2006 17:10SAMVA Subject: Re: Football World Cup - FINAL: France v Germany

 

 

 

 



 

Just a thought on this football amusement. We can have fun deciding results on transit strength to a national chart. But it does not take into account numerous factors. For instance, even if a nation has strang chart and transits, if its new to the sport and has weak players, they wont win. The national chart will not show this. Also, as perhaps suggested by Jo (salut Jo!!) if key players have horrible personal transits,that may override national charts.

 

 

 

Best to all

 

Pierre

 

 

 

 

-

 

Jo Cohen

 

SAMVA

 

Sunday, July 02, 2006 10:55 AM

 

Re: Football World Cup - FINAL: France v Germany

 

 

 

Dear JorgeCongratulations for your football accurate predictions.I'm sure France Protugal next wednesday will be a great moment.Hope you'll be interested by Zidane's chart, captain of the french team.Nodes'transits are not favorable for him but "good luck" and "intelligence" works anyway.All the bestJo Cohen- "Jorge Angelino" <jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt><SAMVA >Sunday, July 02, 2006 10:35 AMRE: Football World Cup - FINAL: France v GermanySUNDAY 9 JULY(Final, 19:00 BST)France dasha: Sa/Ma/Sa/Ve/SaTransit Jupiter and transit Venus are strong.Germany dasha: Sa/Ke/Mo/Ke/SuTransit Jupiter and transit Venus are strong.France seems to be the winner, as it runs a better sub-period.Best wishes,JorgeSAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of VyasMunidasdomingo, 2 de Julho de 2006 07:04SAMVA Subject: Re: Football World CupDear Jorge (and list),I'd love to hear everyone's opinion on the outcome, especially the goodProfessor. I'll pitch my two cents once I've had a chance to look at thecharts.Here's the schedule:TUESDAY 4 JULYGermany v Italy (semi-final, 20:00 BST)WEDNESDAY 5 JULYPortugal v France (semi-final, 20:00 BST)SUNDAY 9 JULY(Final, 19:00 BST)Best regards,Vyas Munidas- "Jorge Angelino" <HYPERLINK"jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt"jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt><HYPERLINK "SAMVA%40"SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com>Saturday, July 01, 2006 5:37 PMFW: Football World CupDear List,My reasoning was due to the fact of Mars, L2, being over the MEP5, in Brazilrectified chart.But the fact of Jupiter being stronger in the France rectified chart decidedthe result.Best wishes,JorgeJorge Angelino [HYPERLINK"jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt"jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt]sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 21:11HYPERLINK "%27SAMVA%40"'SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com'RE: Football World CupBrazil will winBest wishes,JorgeHYPERLINK "SAMVA%40"SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com[HYPERLINK "SAMVA%40"SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com] OnBehalf Of VyasMunidassábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 20:12HYPERLINK "SAMVA%40"SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -comRe: Football World CupGood work Jorge!Brazil vs France next, what's your take?Best regards,Vyas Munidas- "Jorge Angelino" <HYPERLINK"jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt"jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt><HYPERLINK "SAMVA%-40.-com"SAMVA@-.--com>Saturday, July 01, 2006 1:47 PMFW: Football World CupDear List,SA works ALWAYS!!!We should be always grateful for that.Best wishes,JorgeJorge Angelino [HYPERLINK"jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt"jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt]sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 06:17HYPERLINK"%27SAMVA%-40.-com"'SAMVA@-.--com'RE: Football World CupGood idea Pierre!NEXT WORLD CUP GAME: Saturday 1 July - England v Portugal 1600 BSTDasha: Ma/Ra/Ra/Ve/--MaDasha: Ju/Ve/Sa/Ju/--MaAmong many other influences, both have L12 over MEP10, but in England theaffliction is exact weakening transit Jupiter.Portugal will win as transit Jupiter and Venus are strong.Best wishes,JorgeHYPERLINK "SAMVA%-40.-com"SAMVA@-.--com[HYPERLINK"SAMVA%-40.-com"SAMVA@-.--com] OnBehalf Ofpierre touchardsábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 00:23HYPERLINK "SAMVA%-40.-com"SAMVA@-.--com Football World CupOk folks,How about something fun... Nobody loves football here ?I am having a little fun predicting cup matches. Using SA classics Ipredicted (to my wife) that, for a start, France would win against its lasttwo opponents, Togo and Spain, despite the general feeling that Spain wouldwin. Tomorow I think that Brasil will beat France.Of course, I put all feelings aside. Only astrology, no sentiments..--..Lets have your bets, folks, what are you, astrologers ?Pierre T--Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.7/379 - Release 29.06.2006--Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.7/379 - Release 29.06.2006-- Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.8/380 - Release 30.06.2006--Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.8/380 - Release 30.06.2006--Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.8/380 - Release 30.06.2006-- Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.8/380 - Release 30.06.2006--Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.8/380 - Release 30.06.2006-- Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.8/380 - Release 30.06.2006

 

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My dear

Pierre,

 

You can say that, but what I was trying to

convey is that EVERYTHING IS RIGHT; EVEN THE “WRONG†IS RIGHT…what happens is

that many times our human limitations do not allow us to see it...and we call

it “wrongâ€.

 

I think that a strong Mars and/or Sun is

needed to get strong players.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On Behalf Of pierre

touchard

domingo, 2 de Julho de 2006

23:54

SAMVA

Re: Football

World Cup - FINAL: France v Germany

 

 

 

 



 

 

 

Hello Jorge

 

 

 

 

 

This your thought needs my

attention. It suggests something of the order of a strong country

chart with strong transits will imply that the country is able to get strong

players ... ?

 

 

 

 

 

Best to you dear

 

 

Pierre

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My dear

Pierre,

 

I think

all these different kinds of conditioning are implicit in each national chart…

even the available spiritual strenght of the national consciousness of that

country to overcome all of them is also in the chart (the strenght of Jupiter

and the Sun). The problem is that most of the times we are not able to “readâ€

everything…

 

Best

wishes,

Jorge

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On Behalf Of pierre

touchard

domingo, 2 de Julho de 2006

17:10

SAMVA

Re: Football

World Cup - FINAL: France v Germany

 

 

 

 



 

Just a thought on this football

amusement. We can have fun deciding results on transit strength to

a national chart. But it does not take into account numerous

factors. For instance, even if a nation has strang chart and transits, if

its new to the sport and has weak players, they wont win. The national

chart will not show this. Also, as perhaps suggested by Jo (salut Jo!!)

if key players have horrible personal transits,that may override national

charts.

 

 

 

 

 

Best to all

 

 

Pierre

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

 

Jo Cohen

 

 

SAMVA

 

 

 

Sunday,

July 02, 2006 10:55 AM

 

 

Re:

Football World Cup - FINAL: France v Germany

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Jorge

 

Congratulations for your football accurate predictions.

I'm sure France Protugal next wednesday will be a great moment.

Hope you'll be interested by Zidane's chart, captain of the french team.

Nodes'transits are not favorable for him but " good luck " and

" intelligence "

works anyway.

 

All the best

Jo Cohen

 

-

" Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt>

<SAMVA >

Sunday, July 02, 2006 10:35 AM

RE: Football World Cup - FINAL: France v Germany

 

SUNDAY 9 JULY

(Final, 19:00 BST)

 

France dasha: Sa/Ma/Sa/Ve/Sa

 

Transit Jupiter and transit Venus are strong.

 

Germany dasha: Sa/Ke/Mo/Ke/Su

 

Transit Jupiter and transit Venus are strong.

 

France seems to be the winner, as it runs a better sub-period.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ]

On Behalf Of Vyas

Munidas

domingo, 2 de Julho de 2006 07:04

SAMVA

Re: Football World Cup

 

Dear Jorge (and list),

 

I'd love to hear everyone's opinion on the outcome, especially the good

Professor. I'll pitch my two cents once I've had a chance to look at the

charts.

 

Here's the schedule:

 

TUESDAY 4 JULY

Germany v Italy (semi-final, 20:00 BST)

 

WEDNESDAY 5 JULY

Portugal v France (semi-final, 20:00 BST)

 

SUNDAY 9 JULY

(Final, 19:00 BST)

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

 

-

" Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK

" jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt>

<HYPERLINK " SAMVA%40 " SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com>

Saturday, July 01, 2006 5:37 PM

FW: Football World Cup

 

Dear List,

 

My reasoning was due to the fact of Mars, L2, being over the MEP5, in Brazil

rectified chart.

 

But the fact of Jupiter being stronger in the France rectified chart decided

the result.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

Jorge Angelino [HYPERLINK

" jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt]

sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 21:11

HYPERLINK " %27SAMVA%40 " 'SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com'

RE: Football World Cup

 

Brazil will win

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

HYPERLINK " SAMVA%40 " SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com

[HYPERLINK " SAMVA%40 " SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com]

On

Behalf Of Vyas

Munidas

sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 20:12

HYPERLINK " SAMVA%40 " SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com

Re: Football World Cup

 

Good work Jorge!

 

Brazil vs France next, what's your take?

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

 

-

" Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK

" jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt>

<HYPERLINK " SAMVA%-40.-com " SAMVA@-.--com>

Saturday, July 01, 2006 1:47 PM

FW: Football World Cup

 

Dear List,

 

SA works ALWAYS!!!

 

We should be always grateful for that.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

Jorge Angelino [HYPERLINK

" jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt]

sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 06:17

HYPERLINK

" %27SAMVA%-40.-com " 'SAMVA@-.--com'

RE: Football World Cup

 

Good idea Pierre!

 

NEXT WORLD CUP GAME: Saturday 1 July - England v Portugal 1600 BST

 

Dasha: Ma/Ra/Ra/Ve/--Ma

 

Dasha: Ju/Ve/Sa/Ju/--Ma

 

Among many other influences, both have L12 over MEP10, but in England the

affliction is exact weakening transit Jupiter.

 

Portugal will win as transit Jupiter and Venus are strong.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

HYPERLINK " SAMVA%-40.-com " SAMVA@-.--com

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pierre touchard

sábado, 1 de Julho de 2006 00:23

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Football World Cup

 



 

Ok folks,

 

How about something fun... Nobody loves football here ?

 

I am having a little fun predicting cup matches. Using SA classics I

predicted (to my wife) that, for a start, France would win against its last

two opponents, Togo and Spain, despite the general feeling that Spain would

win. Tomorow I think that Brasil will beat France.

 

Of course, I put all feelings aside. Only astrology, no sentiments..--..

 

Lets have your bets, folks, what are you, astrologers ?

 

Pierre T

 

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