Guest guest Posted June 3, 2006 Report Share Posted June 3, 2006 Saturday, 3 June 2006, 06:47 GMT 07:47 UK Montenegro declares independence Independence supporters have been celebrating the result Montenegro is to formally declare independence from its union with Serbia in a special session of parliament in the capital, Podgorica. Members will officially recognise the result of a referendum held two weeks ago, where a narrow majority voted in favour of breaking away. Thousands of people are expected to celebrate the announcement. But correspondents say Montenegro is a divided society, with a significant minority backing the union with Serbia. The last time the region was a country was at the end of World War I, before it was absorbed into the newly-formed Yugoslavia. Earlier this week the Montenegro Referendum Commission formally confirmed the result of the referendum, in which 55.5% of the people voted to secede from Serbia, just above the necessary threshold of 55%. Negotiations between Belgrade and Podgorica on how to disentangle the two states are expected to begin shortly. They will include everything from property rights and university fees to military facilities and work permits. Next week Serbia is expected to declare its own independence, finally bringing to an end the break-up of the six republics of the former Yugoslavia into six fully-fledged states. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/5043462.stm Dasha: Ju/Me/Ra/Su/Me Please note transit Sun, L10, operational and exactly over MEP7. satva Jorge Angelino Rua da Sociedade Filarmónica Perpétua Azeitonense, 29 2925-598 Azeitão Portugal jorge.angelino tel: mobile: 210813674 963916784 Add me to your address book... Want a signature like this? -- Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.1/355 - Release 02.06.2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Dear Jorge and list, Thank you for rectifying a chart for Montenegro based on the results of a referendum on independence. The results favouring independence were declared at 9 PM on 21 May 2006. This chart should be studied in the future as an authentic chart for Montenegro. A chart for Montenegro that is cast for the time when Independence was declared yesterday should also be closely studied as a candidate for an authentic chart for the country. In the case of several countries, it has been established that the time the independence is declared and celebrated by the authorities is the correct time. The moment yesterday therefore also deserves special consideration going forward and when testing the chart(s) against predictions. The news reports indicate the special ceremony took place sometime between 6:47 PM (GMT) and 8:02 PM (GMT), giving a Libra ascendant. Information about the exact time would be welcome indeed. Best regards, C Montenegro Lawmakers Declare Independence Breaking News Alerts By PREDRAG MILIC Associated Press Writer June 3, 2006, 8:03 PM EDT PODGORICA, Montenegro -- Montenegro's parliament declared independence from Serbia for the tiny Balkan republic Saturday, forming Europe's newest country and dissolving the last vestiges of the former Yugoslavia. The assembly ADOPTED a DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE, VERIFYING the results of a May 21 referendum in which Montenegrins supported a split from Serbia by a slim margin. The document envisages Montenegro as a " multiethnic, multicultural and multireligious society ... based on the rule of law and market economy. " The authorities then raised a red-and-gold Montenegrin flag over the parliament building and played the ancient Montenegrin anthem -- " Oh, The Bright May Dawn " -- as fireworks exploded. But only a few hundred people celebrated in the capital's streets because of a downpour. The declaration says Montenegro's strategic national goal is integration into the European Union and NATO, and the new country will immediately apply for admission into the United Nations and other international organizations. It also " expresses special interest and full readiness " to " build good and friendly relations with Serbia. " " Long live Montenegro. The citizens of Montenegro, once and for all, have brought back their country into the family of free nations and states, " parliament speaker Ranko Krivokapic said after READING OUT THE DECLARATION. " This is the moment when new horizons open for my country, " said Goran Novakovic, 32, a painter. " This is the MOST IMPORTANT DAY in the entire century for this country. " Danilo Radovic, a student, said: " The DREAM OF GENERATIONA of Montenegrins has been FULFILLED. " But Europe's newest nation WAS BORN with a faltering economy, including 30 percent unemployment. The average monthly salary is $440, and the economy relies on tourism on the country's 180-mile stretch of Adriatic Sea coast. No Serbian officials were at the independence ceremonies. And conservative Serbian Prime Minister Vojislav Kostunica refused to officially congratulate Montenegro's pro-independence leaders on the referendum results. But a message issued by the office of pro-democracy Serbian President Boris Tadic wished the people of Montenegro " peace, stability and overall prosperity " on their way to European integration. The proclamation formally ended the Serbia-Montenegro union, the last shred of what was once Yugoslavia, following years of crisis in the Balkans that began when the federation of six republics disintegrated in violence in the 1990s. Serbia opposed previous declarations of independence by Slovenia, Croatia and Bosnia, triggering nearly a decade of wars. Montenegro was an independent kingdom in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, but it abandoned its statehood to join a new Serb- led Balkan union in 1918. Montenegro, with 620,000 people, was the only republic to stay with Serbia, but it gradually edged toward independence during the autocratic rule of former Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic, who died earlier this year while on trial at the U.N. war crimes tribunal for his part in the bloody breakup of Yugoslavia. Unionist parties opposed to the split with Serbia boycotted the parliament session. SAMVA , " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino wrote: > > > Saturday, 3 June 2006, 06:47 GMT 07:47 UK > > > > > Montenegro declares independence > > > > Montenegrin pro-independence supporters > > Independence supporters have been celebrating the result > > Montenegro is to formally declare independence from its union with Serbia in a special session of parliament in the capital, Podgorica. > > Members will officially recognise the result of a referendum held two weeks ago, where a narrow majority voted in favour of breaking away. > > Thousands of people are expected to celebrate the announcement. > > But correspondents say Montenegro is a divided society, with a significant minority backing the union with Serbia. > > The last time the region was a country was at the end of World War I, before it was absorbed into the newly-formed Yugoslavia. > > Earlier this week the Montenegro Referendum Commission formally confirmed the result of the referendum, in which 55.5% of the people voted to secede from Serbia, just above the necessary threshold of 55%. > > Negotiations between Belgrade and Podgorica on how to disentangle the two states are expected to begin shortly. > > They will include everything from property rights and university fees to military facilities and work permits. > > Next week Serbia is expected to declare its own independence, finally bringing to an end the break-up of the six republics of the former Yugoslavia into six fully-fledged states. > > > > > > HYPERLINK " http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/5043462.stm " http:/ /news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/5043462.stm > > > > Dasha: Ju/Me/Ra/Su/Me > > Please note transit Sun, L10, operational and exactly over MEP7. > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " http://satva.blogspot.com/ " \nsatva > Jorge Angelino > > Rua da Sociedade Filarmónica Perpétua Azeitonense, 29 > 2925-598 Azeitão > Portugal > > > HYPERLINK " jorge.angelino " \njorge.angelino > > > tel: > mobile: > > 210813674 > 963916784 > > > > > > HYPERLINK " https://www.plaxo.com/add_me? u=21475072036 & v0=451086 & k0=1260191974 " \nAdd me to your address book... > > HYPERLINK " http://www.plaxo.com/signature " \nWant a signature like this? > > > > > -- > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.1/355 - Release Date: 02.06.2006 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Dear C. Thanks for informing us about the approximate time in which the ceremony of the declaration of independence took place. In many countries that became independent as a result of a referendum, the closing time of the polls has been the rectified TOB. In presenting the 18:56 degrees Scorpio rectified chart for Montenegro, I am just following the same kind of reasoning, which came out after reading this article: Updated 05/20/2006 23:03:16 TRIUMPHANT DJUKANOVIC PULLS OUT ALL THE STOPS   PODGORICA – The election campaign of the Montenegrin president built up to its grand finale last night with its most spectacular rally yet in the republic’s capital Podgorica. It was the last major chance for Milo Djukanovic to impress the voters before the extraordinary parliamentary elections, which are a precursor to an independence referendum. From midnight tonight, a media blackout will be in force until polls close at 9pm on Sunday. http://www.mediaclub.cg.yu/eng/news/archive/2001/april/19index.htm Let us keep our eyes open to these two candidate charts and see what the future will tell us. Best wishes, Jorge  SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of cosmologer domingo, 4 de Junho de 2006 14:03 SAMVA Re: MONTENEGRO - Montenegro declares independence Dear Jorge and list, Thank you for rectifying a chart for Montenegro based on the results of a referendum on independence. The results favouring independence were declared at 9 PM on 21 May 2006. This chart should be studied in the future as an authentic chart for Montenegro. A chart for Montenegro that is cast for the time when Independence was declared yesterday should also be closely studied as a candidate for an authentic chart for the country. In the case of several countries, it has been established that the time the independence is declared and celebrated by the authorities is the correct time. The moment yesterday therefore also deserves special consideration going forward and when testing the chart(s) against predictions. The news reports indicate the special ceremony took place sometime between 6:47 PM (GMT) and 8:02 PM (GMT), giving a Libra ascendant. Information about the exact time would be welcome indeed. Best regards, C Montenegro Lawmakers Declare Independence Breaking News Alerts By PREDRAG MILIC Associated Press Writer June 3, 2006, 8:03 PM EDT PODGORICA, Montenegro -- Montenegro's parliament declared independence from Serbia for the tiny Balkan republic Saturday, forming Europe's newest country and dissolving the last vestiges of the former Yugoslavia. The assembly ADOPTED a DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE, VERIFYING the results of a May 21 referendum in which Montenegrins supported a split from Serbia by a slim margin. The document envisages Montenegro as a " multiethnic, multicultural and multireligious society ... based on the rule of law and market economy. " The authorities then raised a red-and-gold Montenegrin flag over the parliament building and played the ancient Montenegrin anthem --  " Oh, The Bright May Dawn " -- as fireworks exploded. But only a few hundred people celebrated in the capital's streets because of a downpour. The declaration says Montenegro's strategic national goal is integration into the European Union and NATO, and the new country will immediately apply for admission into the United Nations and other international organizations. It also " expresses special interest and full readiness " to " build good and friendly relations with Serbia. " " Long live Montenegro. The citizens of Montenegro, once and for all, have brought back their country into the family of free nations and states, " parliament speaker Ranko Krivokapic said after READING OUT THE DECLARATION. " This is the moment when new horizons open for my country, " said Goran Novakovic, 32, a painter. " This is the MOST IMPORTANT DAY in the entire century for this country. " Danilo Radovic, a student, said: " The DREAM OF GENERATIONA of Montenegrins has been FULFILLED. " But Europe's newest nation WAS BORN with a faltering economy, including 30 percent unemployment. The average monthly salary is $440, and the economy relies on tourism on the country's 180-mile stretch of Adriatic Sea coast. No Serbian officials were at the independence ceremonies. And conservative Serbian Prime Minister Vojislav Kostunica refused to officially congratulate Montenegro's pro-independence leaders on the referendum results. But a message issued by the office of pro-democracy Serbian President Boris Tadic wished the people of Montenegro " peace, stability and overall prosperity " on their way to European integration. The proclamation formally ended the Serbia-Montenegro union, the last shred of what was once Yugoslavia, following years of crisis in the Balkans that began when the federation of six republics disintegrated in violence in the 1990s. Serbia opposed previous declarations of independence by Slovenia, Croatia and Bosnia, triggering nearly a decade of wars. Montenegro was an independent kingdom in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, but it abandoned its statehood to join a new Serb- led Balkan union in 1918. Montenegro, with 620,000 people, was the only republic to stay with Serbia, but it gradually edged toward independence during the autocratic rule of former Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic, who died earlier this year while on trial at the U.N. war crimes tribunal for his part in the bloody breakup of Yugoslavia. Unionist parties opposed to the split with Serbia boycotted the parliament session. SAMVA , " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino wrote: > > > Saturday, 3 June 2006, 06:47 GMT 07:47 UK > > > > > > > > > > > > Montenegro declares independence > > > > Montenegrin pro-independence supporters > > Independence supporters have been celebrating the result > > Montenegro is to formally declare independence from its union with Serbia in a special session of parliament in the capital, Podgorica. > > Members will officially recognise the result of a referendum held two weeks ago, where a narrow majority voted in favour of breaking away. > > Thousands of people are expected to celebrate the announcement. > > But correspondents say Montenegro is a divided society, with a significant minority backing the union with Serbia. > > The last time the region was a country was at the end of World War I, before it was absorbed into the newly-formed Yugoslavia. > > Earlier this week the Montenegro Referendum Commission formally confirmed the result of the referendum, in which 55.5% of the people voted to secede from Serbia, just above the necessary threshold of 55%. > > Negotiations between Belgrade and Podgorica on how to disentangle the two states are expected to begin shortly. > > They will include everything from property rights and university fees to military facilities and work permits. > > Next week Serbia is expected to declare its own independence, finally bringing to an end the break-up of the six republics of the former Yugoslavia into six fully-fledged states. > > > > > > HYPERLINK " http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/5043462.stm " http:/ /news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/5043462.stm > > > > Dasha: Ju/Me/Ra/Su/Me > > Please note transit Sun, L10, operational and exactly over MEP7. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " http://satva.blogspot.com/ " \nsatva > > > > > > > > Jorge Angelino > > Rua da Sociedade Filarmónica Perpétua Azeitonense, 29 > 2925-598 Azeitão > Portugal > > > HYPERLINK " jorge.angelino " \njorge.angelino > > > tel: > mobile: > > 210813674 > 963916784 > > > > > > HYPERLINK " https://www.plaxo.com/add_me? u=21475072036 & v0=451086 & k0=1260191974 " \nAdd me to your address book... > > HYPERLINK " http://www.plaxo.com/signature " \nWant a signature like this? > > > > > -- > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.1/355 - Release 02.06.2006 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Dear Jorge, The Montenegro Press reported that the official announcement had been released in on-line news stories at 21:20PM and 21:21PM, respectively. http://www.mnnews.net/ From other accounts it appears the announcement was read out at 21:30PM, which gives 6° 30' Saggitarius ascendant. The chart information is attached. Best regards, C Montenegro - Official Declaration of Independence Jun 3, 2006 9:30 PM -02:00 EET Podgorica Longitude: 19E14 Latitude: 42N26 Lahiri Ayanamsha: 23:56 Current Period: VE/MA/JU Planet Deg Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord ================================================ Asc 06:30 Sag Mula Ke Sun 19:07 Tau +00:57:28 WK Rohini Mo Moon 17:29 Leo +11:48:50 FM P.Phalguni Ve Mars 06:04 Can +00:36:11 WK Pushya Sa Merc 06:39 Gem +01:47:23 WK Mrigsira Ma JuptR 16:34 Lib -00:05:26 WK Swati Ra Ven 12:13 Ari +01:10:14 WK Aswini Ke Sat 13:22 Can +00:05:32 WK Pushya Sa Rahu 07:33 Pis -00:00:17 FM U.Bhadra Sa Ketu 07:33 Vir -00:00:17 FM U.Phalguni Su True Node 365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 854 beats Day: Saturday Sunrise: 5:09 AM Tithi: Shukla Ashtami Yoga Pt: 9:56 Cp Yogi:Su AviYogi:Sa Dup Yogi: Sa Dagha Rashis: Gem Vir Sytems Approach Analysis ======================== Sun Bad Placement, Moon Good Placement, Weak Dispositor, Bright, Mars Bad Placement, Debilitated, Weak Dispositor, Mercury Good Placement, Afflicted Mool MEP Jupiter Good Placement, Weak Dispositor, Venus Good Placement, Weak Dispositor, Saturn Bad Placement, Weak Dispositor, Rahu Good Placement, Afflicts 4 10 house MEPs, Afflicted House MEP Ketu Good Placement, Weak Dispositor, Afflicts 4 10 house MEPs, Afflicted House MEP Rashi Chart ******************************************************* ** 10 * * 8 ** *11* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 9 AS 06:30 * 7 JUR16:34* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** * * ** *12 RA 07:33 * 6 KE 07:33 * ** * * ** *1 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *VE 12:13 * 3 ME 06:39 * 5 MO 17:29* * * * * * * * * * MA 06:04* * * * SU 19:07 * * SA 13:22 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** 2 * * 4 ** ******************************************************* Navamsha ******************************************************* ** 3 * * 1 ** *4 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * SU * * * * * * * * * * *VE * 2 AS * 12 KE * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** * * ** *5 MA * 11 JUR * ** * * ** *6 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *MO * * ME * * * *RA * 8 SA * 10 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** 7 * * 9 ** ******************************************************* Vimshottari Dasha/Buktis (Contemporary) ======================================= Ve/Ve 4.3.2000 Ve/Su 5.7.2003 Ve/Mo 4.7.2004 Ve/Ma 5.3.2006 Ve/Ra 5.5.2007 Ve/Ju 4.5.2010 Ve/Sa 2.1.2013 Ve/Me 4.3.2016 Ve/Ke 3.1.2019 Su/Su 4.3.2020 Su/Mo 22.6.2020 Su/Ma 21.12.2020 Su/Ra 28.4.2021 Su/Ju 23.3.2022 Su/Sa 9.1.2023 Su/Me 22.12.2023 Su/Ke 27.10.2024 Su/Ve 4.3.2025 Mo/Mo 5.3.2026 Mo/Ma 3.1.2027 Mo/Ra 4.8.2027 Mo/Ju 2.2.2029 Mo/Sa 4.6.2030 Mo/Me 3.1.2032 Mo/Ke 4.6.2033 Mo/Ve 3.1.2034 Mo/Su 3.9.2035 Ma/Ma 4.3.2036 Ma/Ra 31.7.2036 Ma/Ju 19.8.2037 Ma/Sa 26.7.2038 Ma/Me 3.9.2039 Ma/Ke 31.8.2040 Ma/Ve 27.1.2041 Ma/Su 29.3.2042 Ma/Mo 4.8.2042 Ra/Ra 5.3.2043 Ra/Ju 15.11.2045 Ra/Sa 10.4.2048 Ra/Me 14.2.2051 Ra/Ke 3.9.2053 Ra/Ve 21.9.2054 Ra/Su 21.9.2057 Ra/Mo 16.8.2058 Ra/Ma 15.2.2060 Ju/Ju 4.3.2061 Ju/Sa 22.4.2063 Ju/Me 3.11.2065 Ju/Ke 9.2.2068 Ju/Ve 15.1.2069 Ju/Su 16.9.2071 Ju/Mo 4.7.2072 Ju/Ma 3.11.2073 Ju/Ra 10.10.2074 Sa/Sa 4.3.2077 Sa/Me 7.3.2080 Sa/Ke 15.11.2082 Sa/Ve 25.12.2083 Sa/Su 24.2.2087 Sa/Mo 6.2.2088 Sa/Ma 6.9.2089 Sa/Ra 16.10.2090 Sa/Ju 22.8.2093 Me/Me 4.3.2096 Me/Ke 1.8.2098 Me/Ve 29.7.2099 Me/Su 30.5.2102 Me/Mo 5.4.2103 Me/Ma 4.9.2104 Me/Ra 1.9.2105 Me/Ju 20.3.2108 Me/Sa 26.6.2110 Ke/Ke 5.3.2113 Ke/Ve 1.8.2113 Ke/Su 2.10.2114 Ke/Mo 6.2.2115 Ke/Ma 7.9.2115 Ke/Ra 4.2.2116 Ke/Ju 21.2.2117 Ke/Sa 28.1.2118 SAMVA , " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino wrote: > > Dear C. > > > > Thanks for informing us about the approximate time in which the ceremony of the declaration of independence took place. > > > > In many countries that became independent as a result of a referendum, the closing time of the polls has been the rectified TOB. In presenting the 18:56 degrees Scorpio rectified chart for Montenegro, I am just following the same kind of reasoning, which came out after reading this article: > > > > Updated 05/20/2006 23:03:16 > > > > TRIUMPHANT DJUKANOVIC PULLS OUT ALL THE STOPS > > > > PODGORICA †" The election campaign of the Montenegrin president built up to its grand finale last night with its most spectacular rally yet in the republic’s capital Podgorica. > > It was the last major chance for Milo Djukanovic to impress the voters before the extraordinary parliamentary elections, which are a precursor to an independence referendum. From midnight tonight, a media blackout will be in force until polls close at 9pm on Sunday. > > > > HYPERLINK " http://www.mediaclub.cg.yu/eng/news/archive/2001/april/19i ndex.htm " http://www.mediaclub.cg.yu/eng/news/archive/2001/april/19ind ex.htm > > > > Let us keep our eyes open to these two candidate charts and see what the future will tell us. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Jorge > > > > > SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of cosmologer > domingo, 4 de Junho de 2006 14:03 > SAMVA > Re: MONTENEGRO - Montenegro declares independence > > > > Dear Jorge and list, > > > > Thank you for rectifying a chart for Montenegro based on the results > > of a referendum on independence. The results favouring independence > > were declared at 9 PM on 21 May 2006. This chart should be studied > > in the future as an authentic chart for Montenegro. > > > > A chart for Montenegro that is cast for the time when Independence > > was declared yesterday should also be closely studied as a candidate > > for an authentic chart for the country. > > > > In the case of several countries, it has been established that the > > time the independence is declared and celebrated by the authorities > > is the correct time. The moment yesterday therefore also deserves > > special consideration going forward and when testing the chart(s) > > against predictions. > > > > The news reports indicate the special ceremony took place sometime > > between 6:47 PM (GMT) and 8:02 PM (GMT), giving a Libra ascendant. > > Information about the exact time would be welcome indeed. > > > > Best regards, > > > > C > > > > Montenegro Lawmakers Declare Independence > > Breaking News Alerts > > By PREDRAG MILIC > > Associated Press Writer > > > > June 3, 2006, 8:03 PM EDT > > PODGORICA, Montenegro -- Montenegro's parliament declared > > independence from Serbia for the tiny Balkan republic Saturday, > > forming Europe's newest country and dissolving the last vestiges of > > the former Yugoslavia. > > > > The assembly ADOPTED a DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE, VERIFYING the > > results of a May 21 referendum in which Montenegrins supported a > > split from Serbia by a slim margin. The document envisages > > Montenegro as a " multiethnic, multicultural and multireligious > > society ... based on the rule of law and market economy. " > > > > The authorities then raised a red-and-gold Montenegrin flag over the > > parliament building and played the ancient Montenegrin anthem -- > > " Oh, The Bright May Dawn " -- as fireworks exploded. But only a few > > hundred people celebrated in the capital's streets because of a > > downpour. > > > > The declaration says Montenegro's strategic national goal is > > integration into the European Union and NATO, and the new country > > will immediately apply for admission into the United Nations and > > other international organizations. It also " expresses special > > interest and full readiness " to " build good and friendly relations > > with Serbia. " > > > > " Long live Montenegro. The citizens of Montenegro, once and for all, > > have brought back their country into the family of free nations and > > states, " parliament speaker Ranko Krivokapic said after READING OUT > > THE DECLARATION. > > > > " This is the moment when new horizons open for my country, " said > > Goran Novakovic, 32, a painter. " This is the MOST IMPORTANT DAY in > > the entire century for this country. " > > > > Danilo Radovic, a student, said: " The DREAM OF GENERATIONA of > > Montenegrins has been FULFILLED. " > > > > But Europe's newest nation WAS BORN with a faltering economy, > > including 30 percent unemployment. The average monthly salary is > > $440, and the economy relies on tourism on the country's 180-mile > > stretch of Adriatic Sea coast. > > > > No Serbian officials were at the independence ceremonies. And > > conservative Serbian Prime Minister Vojislav Kostunica refused to > > officially congratulate Montenegro's pro-independence leaders on the > > referendum results. > > > > But a message issued by the office of pro-democracy Serbian > > President Boris Tadic wished the people of Montenegro " peace, > > stability and overall prosperity " on their way to European > > integration. > > > > The proclamation formally ended the Serbia-Montenegro union, the > > last shred of what was once Yugoslavia, following years of crisis in > > the Balkans that began when the federation of six republics > > disintegrated in violence in the 1990s. > > > > Serbia opposed previous declarations of independence by Slovenia, > > Croatia and Bosnia, triggering nearly a decade of wars. > > > > Montenegro was an independent kingdom in the late 19th and early > > 20th centuries, but it abandoned its statehood to join a new Serb- > > led Balkan union in 1918. > > > > Montenegro, with 620,000 people, was the only republic to stay with > > Serbia, but it gradually edged toward independence during the > > autocratic rule of former Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic, who > > died earlier this year while on trial at the U.N. war crimes > > tribunal for his part in the bloody breakup of Yugoslavia. > > > > Unionist parties opposed to the split with Serbia boycotted the > > parliament session. > > SAMVA , " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Saturday, 3 June 2006, 06:47 GMT 07:47 UK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Montenegro declares independence > > > > > > > > > > > > Montenegrin pro-independence supporters > > > > > > Independence supporters have been celebrating the result > > > > > > Montenegro is to formally declare independence from its union with > > Serbia in a special session of parliament in the capital, Podgorica. > > > > > > Members will officially recognise the result of a referendum held > > two weeks ago, where a narrow majority voted in favour of breaking > > away. > > > > > > Thousands of people are expected to celebrate the announcement. > > > > > > But correspondents say Montenegro is a divided society, with a > > significant minority backing the union with Serbia. > > > > > > The last time the region was a country was at the end of World War > > I, before it was absorbed into the newly-formed Yugoslavia. > > > > > > Earlier this week the Montenegro Referendum Commission formally > > confirmed the result of the referendum, in which 55.5% of the people > > voted to secede from Serbia, just above the necessary threshold of > > 55%. > > > > > > Negotiations between Belgrade and Podgorica on how to disentangle > > the two states are expected to begin shortly. > > > > > > They will include everything from property rights and university > > fees to military facilities and work permits. > > > > > > Next week Serbia is expected to declare its own independence, > > finally bringing to an end the break-up of the six republics of the > > former Yugoslavia into six fully-fledged states. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/5043462.stm " http:/ > > /news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/5043462.stm > > > > > > > > > > > > Dasha: Ju/Me/Ra/Su/Me > > > > > > Please note transit Sun, L10, operational and exactly over MEP7. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " http://satva.blogspot.com/ " \nsatva > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jorge Angelino > > > > > > Rua da Sociedade Filarmónica Perpétua Azeitonense, 29 > > > 2925-598 Azeitão > > > Portugal > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " jorge.angelino@ " \njorge.angelino@ > > > > > > > > > tel: > > > mobile: > > > > > > 210813674 > > > 963916784 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " https://www.plaxo.com/add_me? > > u=21475072036 & v0=451086 & k0=1260191974 " \nAdd me to your address > > book... > > > > > > HYPERLINK " http://www.plaxo.com/signature " \nWant a signature like > > this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.1/355 - Release Date: > > 02.06.2006 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Dear C. As the pre-condition for Montenegro to become an independent country (to get more than 55% of the referendum votes) was fulfilled, the closing time of the polls was the official moment in which the new country was born. BBC told they celebrated their new independent status all evening in the capital of Montenegro: Monday, 22 May 2006, 10:36 GMT 11:36 UK Montenegro chooses independence The independence camp has been celebrating in Podgorica Montenegro has narrowly voted for independence from its union with Serbia, near-complete results say. The head of the country's electoral commission said 55.4% of voters had voted to secede from Serbia, just above the 55% required for victory. The result is set to erase the last vestige of the former Yugoslavia. The question of independence has deeply divided Montenegro, with its opponents arguing it will damage economic, family and political ties with Serbia. " Tonight, with the majority decision by the citizens of Montenegro, the independence of the country has been renewed, " said Prime Minister Milo Djukanovic. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/5003220.stm Anyway, as I said, it will be good to keep our eyes open for the future events in Montenegro. Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of cosmologer domingo, 4 de Junho de 2006 23:58 SAMVA Re: MONTENEGRO - Montenegro declares independence Dear Jorge, The Montenegro Press reported that the official announcement had been released in on-line news stories at 21:20PM and 21:21PM, respectively. http://www.mnnews.net/ From other accounts it appears the announcement was read out at 21:30PM, which gives 6° 30' Saggitarius ascendant. The chart information is attached. Best regards, C Montenegro - Official Declaration of Independence Jun 3, 2006 9:30 PM -02:00 EET Podgorica Longitude: 19E14 Latitude: 42N26 Lahiri Ayanamsha: 23:56 Current Period: VE/MA/JU Planet Deg  Sign Speed    SA  Nakshatra Lord ================================================ Asc   06:30 Sag                 Mula      Ke Sun   19:07 Tau +00:57:28 WK  Rohini    Mo Moon  17:29 Leo +11:48:50 FM  P.Phalguni Ve Mars  06:04 Can +00:36:11 WK  Pushya    Sa Merc  06:39 Gem +01:47:23 WK  Mrigsira  Ma JuptR 16:34 Lib -00:05:26 WK  Swati     Ra Ven   12:13 Ari +01:10:14 WK  Aswini    Ke Sat   13:22 Can +00:05:32  WK  Pushya    Sa Rahu  07:33 Pis -00:00:17 FM  U.Bhadra  Sa Ketu  07:33 Vir -00:00:17 FM  U.Phalguni Su True Node 365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 854 beats Day: Saturday Sunrise: 5:09 AM Tithi: Shukla Ashtami Yoga Pt: 9:56 Cp Yogi:Su AviYogi:Sa Dup Yogi: Sa Dagha Rashis: Gem Vir Sytems Approach Analysis ======================== Sun     Bad Placement, Moon    Good Placement, Weak 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10        *   *         *  *                      *  *         *   *       *      *                  *      *       *   *     *          *              *          *     *   *   *              *          *              *   *   * *                  *      *                  * *   ** 7                    *  * 9                    **   *******************************************************   Vimshottari Dasha/Buktis (Contemporary) ======================================= Ve/Ve 4.3.2000 Ve/Su 5.7.2003 Ve/Mo 4.7.2004 Ve/Ma 5.3.2006 Ve/Ra 5.5.2007 Ve/Ju 4.5.2010 Ve/Sa 2.1.2013 Ve/Me 4.3.2016 Ve/Ke 3.1.2019 Su/Su 4.3.2020 Su/Mo 22.6.2020 Su/Ma 21.12.2020 Su/Ra 28.4.2021 Su/Ju 23.3.2022 Su/Sa 9.1.2023 Su/Me 22.12.2023 Su/Ke 27.10.2024 Su/Ve 4.3.2025 Mo/Mo 5.3.2026 Mo/Ma 3.1.2027 Mo/Ra 4.8.2027 Mo/Ju 2.2.2029 Mo/Sa 4.6.2030 Mo/Me 3.1.2032 Mo/Ke 4.6.2033 Mo/Ve 3.1.2034 Mo/Su 3.9.2035 Ma/Ma 4.3.2036 Ma/Ra 31.7.2036 Ma/Ju 19.8.2037 Ma/Sa 26.7.2038 Ma/Me 3.9.2039 Ma/Ke 31.8.2040 Ma/Ve 27.1.2041 Ma/Su 29.3.2042 Ma/Mo 4.8.2042 Ra/Ra 5.3.2043 Ra/Ju 15.11.2045 Ra/Sa 10.4.2048 Ra/Me 14.2.2051 Ra/Ke 3.9.2053 Ra/Ve 21.9.2054 Ra/Su 21.9.2057 Ra/Mo 16.8.2058 Ra/Ma 15.2.2060 Ju/Ju 4.3.2061 Ju/Sa 22.4.2063 Ju/Me 3.11.2065 Ju/Ke 9.2.2068 Ju/Ve 15.1.2069 Ju/Su 16.9.2071 Ju/Mo 4.7.2072 Ju/Ma 3.11.2073 Ju/Ra 10.10.2074 Sa/Sa 4.3.2077 Sa/Me 7.3.2080 Sa/Ke 15.11.2082 Sa/Ve 25.12.2083 Sa/Su 24.2.2087 Sa/Mo 6.2.2088 Sa/Ma 6.9.2089 Sa/Ra 16.10.2090 Sa/Ju 22.8.2093 Me/Me 4.3.2096 Me/Ke 1.8.2098 Me/Ve 29.7.2099 Me/Su 30.5.2102 Me/Mo 5.4.2103 Me/Ma 4.9.2104 Me/Ra 1.9.2105 Me/Ju 20.3.2108 Me/Sa 26.6.2110 Ke/Ke 5.3.2113 Ke/Ve 1.8.2113 Ke/Su 2.10.2114 Ke/Mo 6.2.2115 Ke/Ma 7.9.2115 Ke/Ra 4.2.2116 Ke/Ju 21.2.2117 Ke/Sa 28.1.2118 SAMVA , " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino wrote: > > Dear C. > > > > Thanks for informing us about the approximate time in which the ceremony of the declaration of independence took place. > > > > In many countries that became independent as a result of a referendum, the closing time of the polls has been the rectified TOB. In presenting the 18:56 degrees Scorpio rectified chart for Montenegro, I am just following the same kind of reasoning, which came out after reading this article: > > > > Updated 05/20/2006 23:03:16 > > > > TRIUMPHANT DJUKANOVIC PULLS OUT ALL THE STOPS > > > >   PODGORICA †" The election campaign of the Montenegrin president built up to its grand finale last night with its most spectacular rally yet in the republic’s capital Podgorica. > > It was the last major chance for Milo Djukanovic to impress the voters before the extraordinary parliamentary elections, which are a precursor to an independence referendum. From midnight tonight, a media blackout will be in force until polls close at 9pm on Sunday. > > > > HYPERLINK " http://www.mediaclub.cg.yu/eng/news/archive/2001/april/19i ndex.htm " http://www.mediaclub.cg.yu/eng/news/archive/2001/april/19ind ex.htm > > > > Let us keep our eyes open to these two candidate charts and see what the future will tell us. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Jorge > > > > > SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of cosmologer > domingo, 4 de Junho de 2006 14:03 > SAMVA > Re: MONTENEGRO - Montenegro declares independence > > > > Dear Jorge and list, > > > > Thank you for rectifying a chart for Montenegro based on the results > > of a referendum on independence. The results favouring independence > > were declared at 9 PM on 21 May 2006. This chart should be studied > > in the future as an authentic chart for Montenegro. > > > > A chart for Montenegro that is cast for the time when Independence > > was declared yesterday should also be closely studied as a candidate > > for an authentic chart for the country. > > > > In the case of several countries, it has been established that the > > time the independence is declared and celebrated by the authorities > > is the correct time. The moment yesterday therefore also deserves > > special consideration going forward and when testing the chart(s) > > against predictions. > > > > The news reports indicate the special ceremony took place sometime > > between 6:47 PM (GMT) and 8:02 PM (GMT), giving a Libra ascendant. > > Information about the exact time would be welcome indeed. > > > > Best regards, > > > > C > > > > Montenegro Lawmakers Declare Independence > > Breaking News Alerts > > By PREDRAG MILIC > > Associated Press Writer > > > > June 3, 2006, 8:03 PM EDT > > PODGORICA, Montenegro -- Montenegro's parliament declared > > independence from Serbia for the tiny Balkan republic Saturday, > > forming Europe's newest country and dissolving the last vestiges of > > the former Yugoslavia. > > > > The assembly ADOPTED a DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE, VERIFYING the > > results of a May 21 referendum in which Montenegrins supported a > > split from Serbia by a slim margin. The document envisages > > Montenegro as a " multiethnic, multicultural and multireligious > > society ... based on the rule of law and market economy. " > > > > The authorities then raised a red-and-gold Montenegrin flag over the > > parliament building and played the ancient Montenegrin anthem -- > > " Oh, The Bright May Dawn " -- as fireworks exploded. But only a few > > hundred people celebrated in the capital's streets because of a > > downpour. > > > > The declaration says Montenegro's strategic national goal is > > integration into the European Union and NATO, and the new country > > will immediately apply for admission into the United Nations and > > other international organizations. It also " expresses special > > interest and full readiness " to " build good and friendly relations > > with Serbia. " > > > > " Long live Montenegro. The citizens of Montenegro, once and for all, > > have brought back their country into the family of free nations and > > states, " parliament speaker Ranko Krivokapic said after READING OUT > > THE DECLARATION. > > > > " This is the moment when new horizons open for my country, " said > > Goran Novakovic, 32, a painter. " This is the MOST IMPORTANT DAY in > > the entire century for this country. " > > > > Danilo Radovic, a student, said: " The DREAM OF GENERATIONA of > > Montenegrins has been FULFILLED. " > > > > But Europe's newest nation WAS BORN with a faltering economy, > > including 30 percent unemployment. The average monthly salary is > > $440, and the economy relies on tourism on the country's 180-mile > > stretch of Adriatic Sea coast. > > > > No Serbian officials were at the independence ceremonies. And > > conservative Serbian Prime Minister Vojislav Kostunica refused to > > officially congratulate Montenegro's pro-independence leaders on the > > referendum results. > > > > But a message issued by the office of pro-democracy Serbian > > President Boris Tadic wished the people of Montenegro " peace, > > stability and overall prosperity " on their way to European > > integration. > > > > The proclamation formally ended the Serbia-Montenegro union, the > > last shred of what was once Yugoslavia, following years of crisis in > > the Balkans that began when the federation of six republics > > disintegrated in violence in the 1990s. > > > > Serbia opposed previous declarations of independence by Slovenia, > > Croatia and Bosnia, triggering nearly a decade of wars. > > > > Montenegro was an independent kingdom in the late 19th and early > > 20th centuries, but it abandoned its statehood to join a new Serb- > > led Balkan union in 1918. > > > > Montenegro, with 620,000 people, was the only republic to stay with > > Serbia, but it gradually edged toward independence during the > > autocratic rule of former Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic, who > > died earlier this year while on trial at the U.N. war crimes > > tribunal for his part in the bloody breakup of Yugoslavia. > > > > Unionist parties opposed to the split with Serbia boycotted the > > parliament session. > > SAMVA , " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Saturday, 3 June 2006, 06:47 GMT 07:47 UK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Montenegro declares independence > > > > > > > > > > > > Montenegrin pro-independence supporters > > > > > > Independence supporters have been celebrating the result > > > > > > Montenegro is to formally declare independence from its union with > > Serbia in a special session of parliament in the capital, Podgorica. > > > > > > Members will officially recognise the result of a referendum held > > two weeks ago, where a narrow majority voted in favour of breaking > > away. > > > > > > Thousands of people are expected to celebrate the announcement. > > > > > > But correspondents say Montenegro is a divided society, with a > > significant minority backing the union with Serbia. > > > > > > The last time the region was a country was at the end of World War > > I, before it was absorbed into the newly-formed Yugoslavia. > > > > > > Earlier this week the Montenegro Referendum Commission formally > > confirmed the result of the referendum, in which 55.5% of the people > > voted to secede from Serbia, just above the necessary threshold of > > 55%. > > > > > > Negotiations between Belgrade and Podgorica on how to disentangle > > the two states are expected to begin shortly. > > > > > > They will include everything from property rights and university > > fees to military facilities and work permits. > > > > > > Next week Serbia is expected to declare its own independence, > > finally bringing to an end the break-up of the six republics of the > > former Yugoslavia into six fully-fledged states. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/5043462.stm " http:/ > > /news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/5043462.stm > > > > > > > > > > > > Dasha: Ju/Me/Ra/Su/Me > > > > > > Please note transit Sun, L10, operational and exactly over MEP7. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " http://satva.blogspot.com/ " \nsatva > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jorge Angelino > > > > > > Rua da Sociedade Filarmónica Perpétua Azeitonense, 29 > > > 2925-598 Azeitão > > > Portugal > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " jorge.angelino@ " \njorge.angelino@ > > > > > > > > > tel: > > > mobile: > > > > > > 210813674 > > > 963916784 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " https://www.plaxo.com/add_me? > > u=21475072036 & v0=451086 & k0=1260191974 " \nAdd me to your address > > book... > > > > > > HYPERLINK " http://www.plaxo.com/signature " \nWant a signature like > > this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.1/355 - Release > > 02.06.2006 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 Dear Jorge, The poll may also be viewed as the conception and the formal announcement as the birth. By the time the poll was closed it was not yet certain what the outcome would be. As we can recall, more than the 55% of the vote was required to favour independence. The final outcome, 55,3% favouring independence, became evident only some time after the poll was closed. In addition to that, the formal announcement of independence has been found to be the basis of authentic charts. Before we decide, however, it would be wise to wait and make some predictions and then decide on the basis of the outcomes which chart gives the better result. As we know, predictions based on SA can reveal the authenticity of a given chart. Further to the last post, additional information shows the international press was reporting on the formal declaration of independence in Podgorica at 9:59 PM (EET in Copenhangen), 10:02 PM (EET in UK) and 10:09 PM (EET in USA). At that time, the announcement had been made. So we can assume it occurred sometime between 9:20 PM and 9:59 PM, likely around 9:30 PM (a figure reported in one of the local news stories but the context was unknown as the story was in Serbian with cyrrilic script). Best regards, C SAMVA , " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino wrote: > > Dear C. > > > > As the pre-condition for Montenegro to become an independent country (to get more than 55% of the referendum votes) was fulfilled, the closing time of the polls was the official moment in which the new country was born. BBC told they celebrated their new independent status all evening in the capital of Montenegro: > > > > > Monday, 22 May 2006, 10:36 GMT 11:36 UK > > Montenegro chooses independence > > > > Montenegrins celebrate in Podgorica > > The independence camp has been celebrating in Podgorica > > Montenegro has narrowly voted for independence from its union with Serbia, near-complete results say. > > The head of the country's electoral commission said 55.4% of voters had voted to secede from Serbia, just above the 55% required for victory. > > The result is set to erase the last vestige of the former Yugoslavia. > > The question of independence has deeply divided Montenegro, with its opponents arguing it will damage economic, family and political ties with Serbia. > > " Tonight, with the majority decision by the citizens of Montenegro, the independence of the country has been renewed, " said Prime Minister Milo Djukanovic. > > > > > > HYPERLINK " http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/5003220.stm " http:/ /news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/5003220.stm > > > > Anyway, as I said, it will be good to keep our eyes open for the future events in Montenegro. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Jorge > > > > > SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of cosmologer > domingo, 4 de Junho de 2006 23:58 > SAMVA > Re: MONTENEGRO - Montenegro declares independence > > > > Dear Jorge, > > > > The Montenegro Press reported that the official announcement had > > been released in on-line news stories at 21:20PM and 21:21PM, > > respectively. > > > > http://www.mnnews.net/ > > > > From other accounts it appears the announcement was > > read out at 21:30PM, which gives 6° 30' Saggitarius ascendant. The > > chart information is attached. > > > > Best regards, > > > > C > Montenegro - Official Declaration of Independence > > Jun 3, 2006 9:30 PM -02:00 EET > > Podgorica Longitude: 19E14 Latitude: 42N26 > > Lahiri Ayanamsha: 23:56 Current Period: VE/MA/JU > > > > Planet Deg Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord > > ================================================ > > Asc 06:30 Sag Mula Ke > > Sun 19:07 Tau +00:57:28 WK Rohini Mo > > Moon 17:29 Leo +11:48:50 FM P.Phalguni Ve > > Mars 06:04 Can +00:36:11 WK Pushya Sa > > Merc 06:39 Gem +01:47:23 WK Mrigsira Ma > > JuptR 16:34 Lib -00:05:26 WK Swati Ra > > Ven 12:13 Ari +01:10:14 WK Aswini Ke > > Sat 13:22 Can +00:05:32 WK Pushya Sa > > Rahu 07:33 Pis -00:00:17 FM U.Bhadra Sa > > Ketu 07:33 Vir -00:00:17 FM U.Phalguni Su > > > > True Node 365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 854 beats > > Day: Saturday Sunrise: 5:09 AM > > Tithi: Shukla Ashtami > > Yoga Pt: 9:56 Cp Yogi:Su AviYogi:Sa Dup Yogi: Sa > > Dagha Rashis: Gem Vir > > > > Sytems Approach Analysis > > ======================== > > Sun Bad Placement, > > Moon Good Placement, Weak Dispositor, Bright, > > Mars Bad Placement, Debilitated, Weak Dispositor, > > Mercury Good Placement, > > Afflicted Mool MEP > > Jupiter Good Placement, Weak Dispositor, > > Venus Good Placement, Weak Dispositor, > > Saturn Bad Placement, Weak Dispositor, > > Rahu Good Placement, > > Afflicts 4 10 house MEPs, Afflicted House MEP > > Ketu Good Placement, Weak Dispositor, > > Afflicts 4 10 house MEPs, Afflicted House MEP > > > > Rashi Chart > > ******************************************************* > > ** 10 * * 8 ** > > *11* * * * * > > * * * * * * > > * * * * * * > > * * * * * * > > * * * * * * > > * * 9 AS 06:30 * 7 JUR16:34* > > * * * * * * > > * * * * * * > > * * * * * * > > * * * * * * > > * * * * * * > > ** * * ** > > *12 RA 07:33 * 6 KE 07:33 * > > ** * * ** > > *1 * * * * * > > * * * * * * > > * * * * * * > > * * * * * * > > * * * * * * > > *VE 12:13 * 3 ME 06:39 * 5 MO 17:29* > > * * * * * * > > * * * MA 06:04* * > > * * SU 19:07 * * SA 13:22 * * > > * * * * * * > > * * * * * * > > ** 2 * * 4 ** > > ******************************************************* > > > > Navamsha > > ******************************************************* > > ** 3 * * 1 ** > > *4 * * * * * > > * * * * * * > > * * * * * * > > * SU * * * * > > * * * * * * > > *VE * 2 AS * 12 KE * > > * * * * * * > > * * * * * * > > * * * * * * > > * * * * * * > > * * * * * * > > ** * * ** > > *5 MA * 11 JUR * > > ** * * ** > > *6 * * * * * > > * * * * * * > > * * * * * * > > * * * * * * > > *MO * * ME * * * > > *RA * 8 SA * 10 * > > * * * * * * > > * * * * * * > > * * * * * * > > * * * * * * > > * * * * * * > > ** 7 * * 9 ** > > ******************************************************* > > > > Vimshottari Dasha/Buktis (Contemporary) > > ======================================= > > Ve/Ve 4.3.2000 > > Ve/Su 5.7.2003 > > Ve/Mo 4.7.2004 > > Ve/Ma 5.3.2006 > > Ve/Ra 5.5.2007 > > Ve/Ju 4.5.2010 > > Ve/Sa 2.1.2013 > > Ve/Me 4.3.2016 > > Ve/Ke 3.1.2019 > > Su/Su 4.3.2020 > > Su/Mo 22.6.2020 > > Su/Ma 21.12.2020 > > Su/Ra 28.4.2021 > > Su/Ju 23.3.2022 > > Su/Sa 9.1.2023 > > Su/Me 22.12.2023 > > Su/Ke 27.10.2024 > > Su/Ve 4.3.2025 > > Mo/Mo 5.3.2026 > > Mo/Ma 3.1.2027 > > Mo/Ra 4.8.2027 > > Mo/Ju 2.2.2029 > > Mo/Sa 4.6.2030 > > Mo/Me 3.1.2032 > > Mo/Ke 4.6.2033 > > Mo/Ve 3.1.2034 > > Mo/Su 3.9.2035 > > Ma/Ma 4.3.2036 > > Ma/Ra 31.7.2036 > > Ma/Ju 19.8.2037 > > Ma/Sa 26.7.2038 > > Ma/Me 3.9.2039 > > Ma/Ke 31.8.2040 > > Ma/Ve 27.1.2041 > > Ma/Su 29.3.2042 > > Ma/Mo 4.8.2042 > > Ra/Ra 5.3.2043 > > Ra/Ju 15.11.2045 > > Ra/Sa 10.4.2048 > > Ra/Me 14.2.2051 > > Ra/Ke 3.9.2053 > > Ra/Ve 21.9.2054 > > Ra/Su 21.9.2057 > > Ra/Mo 16.8.2058 > > Ra/Ma 15.2.2060 > > Ju/Ju 4.3.2061 > > Ju/Sa 22.4.2063 > > Ju/Me 3.11.2065 > > Ju/Ke 9.2.2068 > > Ju/Ve 15.1.2069 > > Ju/Su 16.9.2071 > > Ju/Mo 4.7.2072 > > Ju/Ma 3.11.2073 > > Ju/Ra 10.10.2074 > > Sa/Sa 4.3.2077 > > Sa/Me 7.3.2080 > > Sa/Ke 15.11.2082 > > Sa/Ve 25.12.2083 > > Sa/Su 24.2.2087 > > Sa/Mo 6.2.2088 > > Sa/Ma 6.9.2089 > > Sa/Ra 16.10.2090 > > Sa/Ju 22.8.2093 > > Me/Me 4.3.2096 > > Me/Ke 1.8.2098 > > Me/Ve 29.7.2099 > > Me/Su 30.5.2102 > > Me/Mo 5.4.2103 > > Me/Ma 4.9.2104 > > Me/Ra 1.9.2105 > > Me/Ju 20.3.2108 > > Me/Sa 26.6.2110 > > Ke/Ke 5.3.2113 > > Ke/Ve 1.8.2113 > > Ke/Su 2.10.2114 > > Ke/Mo 6.2.2115 > > Ke/Ma 7.9.2115 > > Ke/Ra 4.2.2116 > > Ke/Ju 21.2.2117 > > Ke/Sa 28.1.2118 > > > > SAMVA , " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear C. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for informing us about the approximate time in which the > > ceremony of the declaration of independence took place. > > > > > > > > > > > > In many countries that became independent as a result of a > > referendum, the closing time of the polls has been the rectified > > TOB. In presenting the 18:56 degrees Scorpio rectified chart for > > Montenegro, I am just following the same kind of reasoning, which > > came out after reading this article: > > > > > > > > > > > > Updated 05/20/2006 23:03:16 > > > > > > > > > > > > TRIUMPHANT DJUKANOVIC PULLS OUT ALL THE STOPS > > > > > > > > > > > > PODGORICA †" The election campaign of the Montenegrin > > president built up to its grand finale last night with its most > > spectacular rally yet in the republic’s capital Podgorica. > > > > > > It was the last major chance for Milo Djukanovic to impress the > > voters before the extraordinary parliamentary elections, which are a > > precursor to an independence referendum. From midnight tonight, a > > media blackout will be in force until polls close at 9pm on Sunday. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " http://www.mediaclub.cg.yu/eng/news/archive/2001/april/19i > > ndex.htm " http://www.mediaclub.cg.yu/eng/news/archive/2001/april/19ind > > ex.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > Let us keep our eyes open to these two candidate charts and see > > what the future will tell us. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > Jorge > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA [sAMVA ] On > > Behalf Of cosmologer > > > domingo, 4 de Junho de 2006 14:03 > > > SAMVA > > > Re: MONTENEGRO - Montenegro declares independence > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Jorge and list, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for rectifying a chart for Montenegro based on the > > results > > > > > > of a referendum on independence. The results favouring > > independence > > > > > > were declared at 9 PM on 21 May 2006. This chart should be studied > > > > > > in the future as an authentic chart for Montenegro. > > > > > > > > > > > > A chart for Montenegro that is cast for the time when Independence > > > > > > was declared yesterday should also be closely studied as a > > candidate > > > > > > for an authentic chart for the country. > > > > > > > > > > > > In the case of several countries, it has been established that the > > > > > > time the independence is declared and celebrated by the > > authorities > > > > > > is the correct time. The moment yesterday therefore also deserves > > > > > > special consideration going forward and when testing the chart (s) > > > > > > against predictions. > > > > > > > > > > > > The news reports indicate the special ceremony took place sometime > > > > > > between 6:47 PM (GMT) and 8:02 PM (GMT), giving a Libra ascendant. > > > > > > Information about the exact time would be welcome indeed. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > C > > > > > > > > > > > > Montenegro Lawmakers Declare Independence > > > > > > Breaking News Alerts > > > > > > By PREDRAG MILIC > > > > > > Associated Press Writer > > > > > > > > > > > > June 3, 2006, 8:03 PM EDT > > > > > > PODGORICA, Montenegro -- Montenegro's parliament declared > > > > > > independence from Serbia for the tiny Balkan republic Saturday, > > > > > > forming Europe's newest country and dissolving the last vestiges > > of > > > > > > the former Yugoslavia. > > > > > > > > > > > > The assembly ADOPTED a DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE, VERIFYING the > > > > > > results of a May 21 referendum in which Montenegrins supported a > > > > > > split from Serbia by a slim margin. The document envisages > > > > > > Montenegro as a " multiethnic, multicultural and multireligious > > > > > > society ... based on the rule of law and market economy. " > > > > > > > > > > > > The authorities then raised a red-and-gold Montenegrin flag over > > the > > > > > > parliament building and played the ancient Montenegrin anthem -- > > > > > > " Oh, The Bright May Dawn " -- as fireworks exploded. But only a > > few > > > > > > hundred people celebrated in the capital's streets because of a > > > > > > downpour. > > > > > > > > > > > > The declaration says Montenegro's strategic national goal is > > > > > > integration into the European Union and NATO, and the new country > > > > > > will immediately apply for admission into the United Nations and > > > > > > other international organizations. It also " expresses special > > > > > > interest and full readiness " to " build good and friendly relations > > > > > > with Serbia. " > > > > > > > > > > > > " Long live Montenegro. The citizens of Montenegro, once and for > > all, > > > > > > have brought back their country into the family of free nations > > and > > > > > > states, " parliament speaker Ranko Krivokapic said after READING > > OUT > > > > > > THE DECLARATION. > > > > > > > > > > > > " This is the moment when new horizons open for my country, " said > > > > > > Goran Novakovic, 32, a painter. " This is the MOST IMPORTANT DAY in > > > > > > the entire century for this country. " > > > > > > > > > > > > Danilo Radovic, a student, said: " The DREAM OF GENERATIONA of > > > > > > Montenegrins has been FULFILLED. " > > > > > > > > > > > > But Europe's newest nation WAS BORN with a faltering economy, > > > > > > including 30 percent unemployment. The average monthly salary is > > > > > > $440, and the economy relies on tourism on the country's 180- mile > > > > > > stretch of Adriatic Sea coast. > > > > > > > > > > > > No Serbian officials were at the independence ceremonies. And > > > > > > conservative Serbian Prime Minister Vojislav Kostunica refused to > > > > > > officially congratulate Montenegro's pro-independence leaders on > > the > > > > > > referendum results. > > > > > > > > > > > > But a message issued by the office of pro-democracy Serbian > > > > > > President Boris Tadic wished the people of Montenegro " peace, > > > > > > stability and overall prosperity " on their way to European > > > > > > integration. > > > > > > > > > > > > The proclamation formally ended the Serbia-Montenegro union, the > > > > > > last shred of what was once Yugoslavia, following years of crisis > > in > > > > > > the Balkans that began when the federation of six republics > > > > > > disintegrated in violence in the 1990s. > > > > > > > > > > > > Serbia opposed previous declarations of independence by Slovenia, > > > > > > Croatia and Bosnia, triggering nearly a decade of wars. > > > > > > > > > > > > Montenegro was an independent kingdom in the late 19th and early > > > > > > 20th centuries, but it abandoned its statehood to join a new Serb- > > > > > > led Balkan union in 1918. > > > > > > > > > > > > Montenegro, with 620,000 people, was the only republic to stay > > with > > > > > > Serbia, but it gradually edged toward independence during the > > > > > > autocratic rule of former Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic, > > who > > > > > > died earlier this year while on trial at the U.N. war crimes > > > > > > tribunal for his part in the bloody breakup of Yugoslavia. > > > > > > > > > > > > Unionist parties opposed to the split with Serbia boycotted the > > > > > > parliament session. > > > > > > SAMVA , " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturday, 3 June 2006, 06:47 GMT 07:47 UK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Montenegro declares independence > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Montenegrin pro-independence supporters > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Independence supporters have been celebrating the result > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Montenegro is to formally declare independence from its union > > with > > > > > > Serbia in a special session of parliament in the capital, > > Podgorica. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Members will officially recognise the result of a referendum > > held > > > > > > two weeks ago, where a narrow majority voted in favour of breaking > > > > > > away. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thousands of people are expected to celebrate the announcement. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But correspondents say Montenegro is a divided society, with a > > > > > > significant minority backing the union with Serbia. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The last time the region was a country was at the end of World > > War > > > > > > I, before it was absorbed into the newly-formed Yugoslavia. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Earlier this week the Montenegro Referendum Commission formally > > > > > > confirmed the result of the referendum, in which 55.5% of the > > people > > > > > > voted to secede from Serbia, just above the necessary threshold of > > > > > > 55%. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Negotiations between Belgrade and Podgorica on how to > > disentangle > > > > > > the two states are expected to begin shortly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They will include everything from property rights and university > > > > > > fees to military facilities and work permits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Next week Serbia is expected to declare its own independence, > > > > > > finally bringing to an end the break-up of the six republics of > > the > > > > > > former Yugoslavia into six fully-fledged states. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/5043462.stm " http:/ > > > > > > 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Guest guest Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 Dear C. Thanks for the research on the most precise time of the declaration. It will be very useful for our future follow up. I agree with you in the sense that only the future will tell us about the authenticity of the chart. That is why I am saying that: " it will be good to keep our eyes open for the future events in Montenegro. " Best wishes, Jorge DECLARATION OF MONTENEGRO'S INDEPENDENCE ON JUNE 3 PODGORICA, May 31 (Beta) - The Montenegrin parliament's session to declare independence will most probably be held on June 3, Speaker Ranko Krivokapic announced. Krivokapic told reporters on May 31 that June 3 was " the soonest time for holding the session " and added that he would not invite the representatives of neighboring countries because this would be a formal declaration of independence. In his words, representatives of the international community will attend the session, although not everyone who has been planned because of too little time till the session. Krivokapic said a large gathering would be organized on Statehood Day, July 13, in honor of independent Montenegro, which " all its friends " will attend. Asked whether he expected the deputies of the Socialist People's Party to attend the session, considering that the other parties from the bloc for the joint state announced that they would not be in the house on the day of the declaration of independence, Krivokapic said he was " expecting the deputies to perform their obligations. " " It is an honor to attend such a historic event and show that one is part of a democratic and European Montenegro, " the Montenegrin legislature speaker said. http://news.serbianunity.net/bydate/2006/June_01/3.html#N13 With the vote confirmed, the government in Podgorica is expected to push for a meeting of the Montenegrin Parliament to rewrite the Constitution. This requires a two-thirds parliamentary majority, which might be problematic if pro-unionist parties continue to object. Provided this is successful, however, Montenegro would then be able to seek international recognition and a seat at the United Nations. On June 3, 2006, the Parliament of Montenegro declared the independence of Montenegro, formally confirming the result of the referendum on independence. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montenegro SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of cosmologer segunda-feira, 5 de Junho de 2006 11:34 SAMVA Re: MONTENEGRO - Montenegro declares independence Dear Jorge, The poll may also be viewed as the conception and the formal announcement as the birth. By the time the poll was closed it was not yet certain what the outcome would be. As we can recall, more than the 55% of the vote was required to favour independence. The final outcome, 55,3% favouring independence, became evident only some time after the poll was closed. In addition to that, the formal announcement of independence has been found to be the basis of authentic charts. Before we decide, however, it would be wise to wait and make some predictions and then decide on the basis of the outcomes which chart gives the better result. As we know, predictions based on SA can reveal the authenticity of a given chart. Further to the last post, additional information shows the international press was reporting on the formal declaration of independence in Podgorica at 9:59 PM (EET in Copenhangen), 10:02 PM (EET in UK) and 10:09 PM (EET in USA). At that time, the announcement had been made. So we can assume it occurred sometime between 9:20 PM and 9:59 PM, likely around 9:30 PM (a figure reported in one of the local news stories but the context was unknown as the story was in Serbian with cyrrilic script). Best regards, C SAMVA , " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino wrote: > > Dear C. > > > > As the pre-condition for Montenegro to become an independent country (to get more than 55% of the referendum votes) was fulfilled, the closing time of the polls was the official moment in which the new country was born. BBC told they celebrated their new independent status all evening in the capital of Montenegro: > > > > > Monday, 22 May 2006, 10:36 GMT 11:36 UK > > > > > > > > > Montenegro chooses independence > > > > Montenegrins celebrate in Podgorica > > The independence camp has been celebrating in Podgorica > > Montenegro has narrowly voted for independence from its union with Serbia, near-complete results say. > > The head of the country's electoral commission said 55.4% of voters had voted to secede from Serbia, just above the 55% required for victory. > > The result is set to erase the last vestige of the former Yugoslavia. > > The question of independence has deeply divided Montenegro, with its opponents arguing it will damage economic, family and political ties with Serbia. > > " Tonight, with the majority decision by the citizens of Montenegro, the independence of the country has been renewed, " said Prime Minister Milo Djukanovic. > > > > > > HYPERLINK " http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/5003220.stm " http:/ /news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/5003220.stm > > > > Anyway, as I said, it will be good to keep our eyes open for the future events in Montenegro. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Jorge > > > > > SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of cosmologer > domingo, 4 de Junho de 2006 23:58 > SAMVA > Re: MONTENEGRO - Montenegro declares independence > > > > Dear Jorge, > > > > The Montenegro Press reported that the official announcement had > > been released in on-line news stories at 21:20PM and 21:21PM, > > respectively. > > > > http://www.mnnews.net/ > > > > From other accounts it appears the announcement was > > read out at 21:30PM, which gives 6° 30' Saggitarius ascendant. The > > chart information is attached. > > > > Best regards, > > > > C > > > > > > > > Montenegro - Official Declaration of Independence > > Jun 3, 2006 9:30 PM -02:00 EET > > Podgorica Longitude: 19E14 Latitude: 42N26 > > Lahiri Ayanamsha: 23:56 Current Period: VE/MA/JU > > > > Planet Deg  Sign Speed    SA  Nakshatra Lord > > ================================================ > > Asc   06:30 Sag                 Mula      Ke > > Sun   19:07 Tau +00:57:28 WK  Rohini    Mo > > Moon  17:29 Leo +11:48:50 FM  P.Phalguni Ve > > Mars  06:04 Can +00:36:11 WK  Pushya    Sa > > Merc  06:39 Gem +01:47:23 WK  Mrigsira  Ma > > JuptR 16:34 Lib -00:05:26 WK  Swati     Ra > > Ven   12:13 Ari +01:10:14 WK  Aswini    Ke > > Sat   13:22 Can +00:05:32 WK  Pushya    Sa > > Rahu  07:33 Pis -00:00:17 FM  U.Bhadra  Sa > > Ketu  07:33 Vir -00:00:17 FM  U.Phalguni Su > > > > True Node 365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 854 beats > > Day: Saturday Sunrise: 5:09 AM > > Tithi: Shukla Ashtami > > Yoga Pt: 9:56 Cp Yogi:Su AviYogi:Sa Dup Yogi: Sa > > Dagha Rashis: Gem Vir > > > > Sytems Approach Analysis > > ======================== > > Sun     Bad Placement, > > Moon    Good Placement, Weak Dispositor, Bright, > > Mars    Bad Placement, Debilitated, Weak Dispositor, > > Mercury Good Placement, > >         Afflicted Mool MEP > > Jupiter Good Placement, Weak Dispositor, > > Venus   Good Placement, Weak Dispositor, > > Saturn  Bad Placement, Weak Dispositor, > > Rahu    Good Placement, > >         Afflicts 4 10 house MEPs, Afflicted House MEP > > Ketu    Good Placement, Weak Dispositor, > >         Afflicts 4 10 house MEPs, Afflicted House MEP > > > > Rashi Chart > > *******************************************************   > > ** 10                   *  * 8                    **   > > *11*                  *      *                  * *   > > *   *              *          *              *   *   > > *     *          *              *          *     *   > > *       *      *                  *      *       *   > > *         *  *                      *  *         *   > > *           * 9      AS 06:30         * 7 JUR16:34*   > > *         *  *                      *  *         *   > > *       *      *                  *      *       *   > > *     *          *              *          *     *   > > *   *              *          *              *   *   > > * *                  *      *                  * *   > > **                      *  *                      **   > > *12     RA 07:33         * 6      KE 07:33        *   > > **                      *  *                      **   > > *1 *                  *      *                  * *   > > *   *              *          *              *   *   > > *     *          *              *          *     *   > > *       *      *                  *      *       *   > > *         *  *                      *  *         *   > > *VE 12:13   * 3      ME 06:39         * 5 MO 17:29*   > > *         *  *                      *  *         *   > > *       *      *                  MA 06:04*       *   > > *     * SU 19:07 *              * SA 13:22 *     *   > > *   *              *          *              *   *   > > * *                  *      *                  * *   > > ** 2                    *  * 4                    **   > > *******************************************************   > > > > Navamsha > > *******************************************************   > > ** 3                    *  * 1                    **   > > *4 *                  *      *                  * *   > > *   *              *          *              *   *   > > *     *          *              *          *     *   > > *       SU     *                  *      *       *   > > *         *  *                      *  *         *   > > *VE         * 2      AS               * 12 KE     *   > > *         *  *                      *  *         *   > > *       *      *                  *      *       *   > > *     *          *              *          *     *   > > *   *              *          *              *   *   > > * *                  *      *                  * *   > > **                      *  *                      **   > > *5      MA               * 11     JUR             *   > > **                      *  *                      **   > > *6 *                  *      *                  * *   > > *   *              *          *              *   *   > > *     *          *              *          *     *   > > *       *      *                  *      *       *   > > *MO       *  *      ME             *  *         *   > > *RA         * 8      SA               * 10        *   > > *         *  *                      *  *         *   > > *       *      *                  *      *       *   > > *     *          *              *          *     *   > > *   *              *          *              *   *   > > * *                  *      *                  * *   > > ** 7                    *  * 9                    **   > > *******************************************************   > > > > Vimshottari Dasha/Buktis (Contemporary) > > ======================================= > > Ve/Ve 4.3.2000 > > Ve/Su 5.7.2003 > > Ve/Mo 4.7.2004 > > Ve/Ma 5.3.2006 > > Ve/Ra 5.5.2007 > > Ve/Ju 4.5.2010 > > Ve/Sa 2.1.2013 > > Ve/Me 4.3.2016 > > Ve/Ke 3.1.2019 > > Su/Su 4.3.2020 > > Su/Mo 22.6.2020 > > Su/Ma 21.12.2020 > > Su/Ra 28.4.2021 > > Su/Ju 23.3.2022 > > Su/Sa 9.1.2023 > > Su/Me 22.12.2023 > > Su/Ke 27.10.2024 > > Su/Ve 4.3.2025 > > Mo/Mo 5.3.2026 > > Mo/Ma 3.1.2027 > > Mo/Ra 4.8.2027 > > Mo/Ju 2.2.2029 > > Mo/Sa 4.6.2030 > > Mo/Me 3.1.2032 > > Mo/Ke 4.6.2033 > > Mo/Ve 3.1.2034 > > Mo/Su 3.9.2035 > > Ma/Ma 4.3.2036 > > Ma/Ra 31.7.2036 > > Ma/Ju 19.8.2037 > > Ma/Sa 26.7.2038 > > Ma/Me 3.9.2039 > > Ma/Ke 31.8.2040 > > Ma/Ve 27.1.2041 > > Ma/Su 29.3.2042 > > Ma/Mo 4.8.2042 > > Ra/Ra 5.3.2043 > > Ra/Ju 15.11.2045 > > Ra/Sa 10.4.2048 > > Ra/Me 14.2.2051 > > Ra/Ke 3.9.2053 > > Ra/Ve 21.9.2054 > > Ra/Su 21.9.2057 > > Ra/Mo 16.8.2058 > > Ra/Ma 15.2.2060 > > Ju/Ju 4.3.2061 > > Ju/Sa 22.4.2063 > > Ju/Me 3.11.2065 > > Ju/Ke 9.2.2068 > > Ju/Ve 15.1.2069 > > Ju/Su 16.9.2071 > > Ju/Mo 4.7.2072 > > Ju/Ma 3.11.2073 > > Ju/Ra 10.10.2074 > > Sa/Sa 4.3.2077 > > Sa/Me 7.3.2080 > > Sa/Ke 15.11.2082 > > Sa/Ve 25.12.2083 > > Sa/Su 24.2.2087 > > Sa/Mo 6.2.2088 > > Sa/Ma 6.9.2089 > > Sa/Ra 16.10.2090 > > Sa/Ju 22.8.2093 > > Me/Me 4.3.2096 > > Me/Ke 1.8.2098 > > Me/Ve 29.7.2099 > > Me/Su 30.5.2102 > > Me/Mo 5.4.2103 > > Me/Ma 4.9.2104 > > Me/Ra 1.9.2105 > > Me/Ju 20.3.2108 > > Me/Sa 26.6.2110 > > Ke/Ke 5.3.2113 > > Ke/Ve 1.8.2113 > > Ke/Su 2.10.2114 > > Ke/Mo 6.2.2115 > > Ke/Ma 7.9.2115 > > Ke/Ra 4.2.2116 > > Ke/Ju 21.2.2117 > > Ke/Sa 28.1.2118 > > > > SAMVA , " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear C. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for informing us about the approximate time in which the > > ceremony of the declaration of independence took place. > > > > > > > > > > > > In many countries that became independent as a result of a > > referendum, the closing time of the polls has been the rectified > > TOB. In presenting the 18:56 degrees Scorpio rectified chart for > > Montenegro, I am just following the same kind of reasoning, which > > came out after reading this article: > > > > > > > > > > > > Updated 05/20/2006 23:03:16 > > > > > > > > > > > > TRIUMPHANT DJUKANOVIC PULLS OUT ALL THE STOPS > > > > > > > > > > > >   PODGORICA †" The election campaign of the Montenegrin > > president built up to its grand finale last night with its most > > spectacular rally yet in the republic’s capital Podgorica. > > > > > > It was the last major chance for Milo Djukanovic to impress the > > voters before the extraordinary parliamentary elections, which are a > > precursor to an independence referendum. From midnight tonight, a > > media blackout will be in force until polls close at 9pm on Sunday. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " http://www.mediaclub.cg.yu/eng/news/archive/2001/april/19i > > ndex.htm " http://www.mediaclub.cg.yu/eng/news/archive/2001/april/19ind > > ex.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > Let us keep our eyes open to these two candidate charts and see > > what the future will tell us. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > Jorge > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA [sAMVA ] On > > Behalf Of cosmologer > > > domingo, 4 de Junho de 2006 14:03 > > > SAMVA > > > Re: MONTENEGRO - Montenegro declares independence > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Jorge and list, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for rectifying a chart for Montenegro based on the > > results > > > > > > of a referendum on independence. The results favouring > > independence > > > > > > were declared at 9 PM on 21 May 2006. This chart should be studied > > > > > > in the future as an authentic chart for Montenegro. > > > > > > > > > > > > A chart for Montenegro that is cast for the time when Independence > > > > > > was declared yesterday should also be closely studied as a > > candidate > > > > > > for an authentic chart for the country. > > > > > > > > > > > > In the case of several countries, it has been established that the > > > > > > time the independence is declared and celebrated by the > > authorities > > > > > > is the correct time. The moment yesterday therefore also deserves > > > > > > special consideration going forward and when testing the chart (s) > > > > > > against predictions. > > > > > > > > > > > > The news reports indicate the special ceremony took place sometime > > > > > > between 6:47 PM (GMT) and 8:02 PM (GMT), giving a Libra ascendant. > > > > > > Information about the exact time would be welcome indeed. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > C > > > > > > > > > > > > Montenegro Lawmakers Declare Independence > > > > > > Breaking News Alerts > > > > > > By PREDRAG MILIC > > > > > > Associated Press Writer > > > > > > > > > > > > June 3, 2006, 8:03 PM EDT > > > > > > PODGORICA, Montenegro -- Montenegro's parliament declared > > > > > > independence from Serbia for the tiny Balkan republic Saturday, > > > > > > forming Europe's newest country and dissolving the last vestiges > > of > > > > > > the former Yugoslavia. > > > > > > > > > > > > The assembly ADOPTED a DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE, VERIFYING the > > > > > > results of a May 21 referendum in which Montenegrins supported a > > > > > > split from Serbia by a slim margin. The document envisages > > > > > > Montenegro as a " multiethnic, multicultural and multireligious > > > > > > society ... based on the rule of law and market economy. " > > > > > > > > > > > > The authorities then raised a red-and-gold Montenegrin flag over > > the > > > > > > parliament building and played the ancient Montenegrin anthem -- > > > > > > " Oh, The Bright May Dawn " -- as fireworks exploded. But only a > > few > > > > > > hundred people celebrated in the capital's streets because of a > > > > > > downpour. > > > > > > > > > > > > The declaration says Montenegro's strategic national goal is > > > > > > integration into the European Union and NATO, and the new country > > > > > > will immediately apply for admission into the United Nations and > > > > > > other international organizations. It also " expresses special > > > > > > interest and full readiness " to " build good and friendly relations > > > > > > with Serbia. " > > > > > > > > > > > > " Long live Montenegro. The citizens of Montenegro, once and for > > all, > > > > > > have brought back their country into the family of free nations > > and > > > > > > states, " parliament speaker Ranko Krivokapic said after READING > > OUT > > > > > > THE DECLARATION. > > > > > > > > > > > > " This is the moment when new horizons open for my country, " said > > > > > > Goran Novakovic, 32, a painter. " This is the MOST IMPORTANT DAY in > > > > > > the entire century for this country. " > > > > > > > > > > > > Danilo Radovic, a student, said: " The DREAM OF GENERATIONA of > > > > > > Montenegrins has been FULFILLED. " > > > > > > > > > > > > But Europe's newest nation WAS BORN with a faltering economy, > > > > > > including 30 percent unemployment. The average monthly salary is > > > > > > $440, and the economy relies on tourism on the country's 180- mile > > > > > > stretch of Adriatic Sea coast. > > > > > > > > > > > > No Serbian officials were at the independence ceremonies. And > > > > > > conservative Serbian Prime Minister Vojislav Kostunica refused to > > > > > > officially congratulate Montenegro's pro-independence leaders on > > the > > > > > > referendum results. > > > > > > > > > > > > But a message issued by the office of pro-democracy Serbian > > > > > > President Boris Tadic wished the people of Montenegro " peace, > > > > > > stability and overall prosperity " on their way to European > > > > > > integration. > > > > > > > > > > > > The proclamation formally ended the Serbia-Montenegro union, the > > > > > > last shred of what was once Yugoslavia, following years of crisis > > in > > > > > > the Balkans that began when the federation of six republics > > > > > > disintegrated in violence in the 1990s. > > > > > > > > > > > > Serbia opposed previous declarations of independence by Slovenia, > > > > > > Croatia and Bosnia, triggering nearly a decade of wars. > > > > > > > > > > > > Montenegro was an independent kingdom in the late 19th and early > > > > > > 20th centuries, but it abandoned its statehood to join a new Serb- > > > > > > led Balkan union in 1918. > > > > > > > > > > > > Montenegro, with 620,000 people, was the only republic to stay > > with > > > > > > Serbia, but it gradually edged toward independence during the > > > > > > autocratic rule of former Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic, > > who > > > > > > died earlier this year while on trial at the U.N. war crimes > > > > > > tribunal for his part in the bloody breakup of Yugoslavia. > > > > > > > > > > > > Unionist parties opposed to the split with Serbia boycotted the > > > > > > parliament session. > > > > > > SAMVA , " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturday, 3 June 2006, 06:47 GMT 07:47 UK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Montenegro declares independence > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Montenegrin pro-independence supporters > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Independence supporters have been celebrating the result > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Montenegro is to formally declare independence from its union > > with > > > > > > Serbia in a special session of parliament in the capital, > > Podgorica. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Members will officially recognise the result of a referendum > > held > > > > > > two weeks ago, where a narrow majority voted in favour of breaking > > > > > > away. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thousands of people are expected to celebrate the announcement. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But correspondents say Montenegro is a divided society, with a > > > > > > significant minority backing the union with Serbia. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The last time the region was a country was at the end of World > > War > > > > > > I, before it was absorbed into the newly-formed Yugoslavia. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Earlier this week the Montenegro Referendum Commission formally > > > > > > confirmed the result of the referendum, in which 55.5% of the > > people > > > > > > voted to secede from Serbia, just above the necessary threshold of > > > > > > 55%. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Negotiations between Belgrade and Podgorica on how to > > disentangle > > > > > > the two states are expected to begin shortly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They will include everything from property rights and university > > > > > > fees to military facilities and work permits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Next week Serbia is expected to declare its own independence, > > > > > > finally bringing to an end the break-up of the six republics of > > the > > > > > > former Yugoslavia into six fully-fledged states. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/5043462.stm " http:/ > > > > > > 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