Guest guest Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 Dear Amar Puri, You are welcome. It is always a pleasure to see SA functioning... As you know, the rectification of His TOB was preceded by intense search to find some precise dates of His life. With more dates, it would have been easier... Vimshottari dasha changes with TOB, so it cannot be the same. Let us look at it: For your TOB 15:24, Ma/Ma will begin on 3 May 2014. For TOB 16:00:07, Ma/Ma will begin on 3 March 2014. So we can see a difference of about 2 months...the natal strength of the operational planets is also different. Srila Prabupada became a sanyasi only on 17 September 1959 as we can see in the following text: “After accepting the sannyâsa order of life, awarded to him by his Godbrother Bhaktiprajñâna KeÅ¡ava Mahârâja on September 17, 1959 in Mathurâ's KeÅ¡avajî Gaudiya Math temple, Abhay again returned to the Vamsî-gopâlajî temple.†http://gitaclub.tripod.com/secPrabhupada/pages/Prabhupada.html For your TOB 15:24, this important event happened during Me/Ve/Sa. In rasi and navamsa, Mercury is L10, Venus is L11, and Saturn is L3. They are placed in H10 and H11 in rasi and H9 and H1 in transit. Only Mercury is close to MEP: For the TOB of 16:00:07, it also happened during Me/Ve/Sa, but Mercury is L9, Venus is L10 and Saturn is L2 (status). In navamsa, Venus is L8 and Saturn is L12. In transit, Mercury and Venus are placed in H8, and Saturn is placed in H12. Venus and Saturn are exactly on MEP8 and MEP12, respectively. Transit Sun, L8, is exactly conjunct transit Mercury, L9, and natal Venus, L10. In my opinion, this has more to do with becoming a sanyasi. Regarding His spiritual career, “Born and raised in India, Srila Prabhupada began a career of preaching and publishing in the 1940s, with his magazine Back to Godhead.†http://www.answers.com/topic/srila-prabhupada also in “...in 1944, started Back to Godhead, an English fortnightly magazine.†http://www.webcom.com/ara/col/books/BIO/prab.html .. Being born in 1896, this means that He had already about 48 years old when His spiritual career began... ....and what was His career before? " ...At that time I was running on my big pharmacy and I was very well known man in Allahabad as the proprietor of the pharmacy. So somebody recommended them that " You go to Abhaya Babu. He is a very religious man. He'll help you. " http://guru.krishna.org/Articles/2001/02/00259.html “All glories to Srila Prabhupada. As many of us may remember from Prabahupada's Lilamrita or from their personal remembrances, Srila Prabhupada was a 'chemist' in his previous householder life. Of course, this word for chemist is British-Indian English for what we would call a pharmacist. In that capacity Prabhupada has left us many remedies, including his famous Bramastri juice.†http://www.vnn.org/editorials/ET0211/ET08-7623.html So He was a pharmacist before 1944 (and keep on being a pharmacist afterwards, in the sense of always trying to cure the suffering of humanity). Venus (medicine, knowledge of life saving drugs), L10, is the significator of His career. As L10 is placed in H9, He had support of Natural Law regarding His first job (it was given by a friend of His father), and the religious factor has always been present in His life. As His MBP Mars, L4, and Mercury, L9, are both strong, the spirituality in His life was very intense and took over His mere being a pharmacist for some people. He became a PHARMACIST for all the world. His prescription was: Krishna Consciousness. Best wishes, Jorge     SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Amar Puri domingo, 26 de Março de 2006 22:55 SAMVA ; satva ; RE: Ã… rîla Prabhupâda rectified chart Hello Dear Jorge, Hare Krishna. Thank you as usual for your kind efforts trying to rectify the chart of Srila Prabupada. Upon seeing both Capricorn and Sagittarius birth chart, it shows Vimshottari Dashas (Main and sub period) are the same. Even the year remains same identical. Without doing analysis and its specific traits based on the configuration of the respective planets occupying their respective location in both the Chart, it is hard to arrive at the conclusion simply matchng the year with the events. For example in Capricorn chart, 4L Mars and 7L Exalted Moon both are welll and strongly placed in 5h without any affliction which indicate that the native is very intelligent, very emotional and sensitive in relationship and earn through speculation because of 9L exalted Mercury and enjoy material assets for sense gratification. The above description of the Capricorn rising sign does not suit to the personality of Srila Prabupada because he was a Sanayassi as it is vividly seen in the rising sign of Sagittarius. Another example 2 L Saturn debilitated in Navamsa rendering weak occupies 10h of Career and Profession owned by debilitated Venus which is in Infancy thus rendered weak do not indicate a strong authorship and communicator whereas it is seen clearly in the rising sign of Sagittarius and suits much better to the personality of Srila Prabupada's in his writings the huge Spritual successful literature translating in to English from Sanskrit and Bengali with uncontested achievements. These are some of the confusion keep coming back to my mind. Therefore, I humbly ask you as one of the Senior Member and other Learned member including our Respected Professor to kindly enlighten my mind and shed some more lights in this connection. Thank you very much. Hari BOL. Best wishes and regards. > " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino >SAMVA > ><SAMVA >,<satva >, > Ã… rîla Prabhupâda rectified chart Wed, 22 Mar 2006 >20:08:32 -0000 > >Dear List Members, > > > >Here is the rectified chart of: > > > >Ã… rîla Prabhupâda > >Sep 1, 1896 4:00:07 PM -05:53 LMT > >Calcutta, India Longitude: 88E22 Latitude: 22N32 > >Lahiri Ayanamsha: 22:24 > > > >Planet Deg  Sign Speed    SA  Nakshatra Lord > >================================================ > >Asc   07:52 Cap                 U.Shadya  Su > >Sun   17:00 Leo +00:58:08 FM  P.Phalguni Ve > >Moon  28:05 Tau +12:34:50 WK  Mrigsira  Ma > >Mars  16:56 Tau +00:32:30 ST  Rohini    Mo > >Merc  11:07 Vir +01:21:07 ST  Hasta     Mo > >Jupt  02:01 Leo +00:12:54 FM  Magha     Ke > >Ven   01:47 Vir +01:14:09 WK  U.Phalguni Su > >Sat   21:47 Lib +00:04:17 WK  Vishakha  Ju > >Rahu  02:04 Aqu +00:00:30 FM  Dhanishtha Ma > >Ketu  02:04 Leo +00:00:30 FM  Magha     Ke > > > >True Node 365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 463 beats > >Day: Tuesday Sunrise: 5:44 AM > >Tithi: Krishna Navami > >Yoga Pt: 18:25 Cp Yogi:Mo AviYogi:Me Dup Yogi: Sa > >Dagha Rashis: Leo Sco > > > >Rashi Chart > >******************************************************* > >** 11                   *  * 9                    ** > >*12*                  *      *                  * * > >*   *              *          *              *   * > >*     *          *              *          *     * > >*       RA 02:04*                  *      *       * > >*         *  *                      *  *         * > >*           * 10     AS 07:52         * 8         * > >*         *  *                      *  *         * > >*       *      *                  *      *       * > >*     *          *              *          *     * > >*   *              *          *              *   * > >* *                  *      *                  * * > >**                      *  *                      ** > >*1                        * 7      SA 21:47        * > >**                      *  *                      ** > >*2 *                  *      *                  * * > >*   *              *          *              *   * > >*     *          *              *          *     * > >*       *      *                   *      *       * > >*MA 16:56 *  *                      *  * VE 01:47* > >*MO 28:05   * 4                        * 6 ME 11:07* > >*         *  *                      *  *         * > >*       *      *                  JU 02:01*       * > >*     *          *              * KE 02:04 *     * > >*   *              *          *  SU 17:00   *   * > >* *                  *      *                  * * > >** 3                    *  * 5                    ** > >******************************************************* > > > >Navamsha > >******************************************************* > >** 1                    *  * 11                   ** > >*2 *                  *      *                  * * > >*   *  ME         *          *              *   * > >*     * JU       *              *          *     * > >*       SA     *                  *      *       * > >*       KE*  *                      *  *         * > >*           * 12     AS               * 10 VE     * > >*         *  *                      *  *         * > >*       *      *                  *      *       * > >*     *          *              *          *     * > >*   *              *          *              *   * > >* *                  *      *                  * * > >**                      *  *                      ** > >*3      MA               * 9                       * > >**                      *  *                      ** > >*4 *                  *      *                  * * > >*   *              *          *              *   * > >*     *          *              *          *     * > >*       *      *                  *       *       * > >*         *  *      SU             *  *         * > >*           * 6      MO               * 8         * > >*         *  *                      *  *         * > >*       *      *                  *      *       * > >*     *          *              * RA       *     * > >*   *              *          *              *   * > >* *                  *      *                  * * > >** 5                    *  * 7                    ** > >******************************************************* > > > >Some of the events/facts used in the rectification: > > > >Rh Direct > > > >Biography of Srila Prabhupada > > > >Abhay Caran De was born September 1, 1896 in Calcutta, India, under very >favorable circumstances (Mercury, L9 in H9, and Mars, L4 in H5. Both are >strong). His father, Gour Mohan De, was a devotee of Lord Caitanya and >therefore gave Abhay a religious upbringing with God in the center >(Mercury, L9 in H9). After performing his own eight-day Ratha-yâtrâ >festival at the age of five, Abhay proceeded on the path of devotion not >only by learning how to play devotional instruments such as the mrdangga, >but also by memorizing certain traditional Bengali songs for the >glorification of the Lord. > > > >In 1916 (Ra/Mo after 14 August 1916. Moon, L7 in H5) Abhay entered Scottish >Churches' College, one of the most prestigious colleges in Calcutta. Here >he spent four years studying English, Sanskrit, philosophy, psychology, and >economics. Since Bible study also was compulsory, Abhay gathered every >morning with his fellow students for prayers, hymns, and scripture >readings. In 1920, after his final B.A. examinations, (Ju/Ju/Su after 28 >July 1920. Jupiter, L12, and the Sun, L8, are spiritual/soul significators. >As they are functional malefics for a Capricorn native, they give excelent >results when he/she lives a spiritual life through regular >prayers/chanting/meditation) Abhay went on a well-deserved, but short, >pilgrimage to Jagannâtha Purîâ€â€the city where the original Ratha-yâtrâ >festival has been annually held for more than two thousand years. > > > >After meeting his spiritual mentor Bhaktisiddhânta Sarasvatî in Calcutta >in 1922 (he was in Ju/Sa, and transit Saturn was in H9) , and formally >taking initiation from him in 1933, Abhay's seriousness gradually >increased. Abhay now intensified his study of Lord Caitanya's monotheistic >bhedâbheda philosophy. In 1939 (He was in Sa/Me, and transit Saturn was in >H4. Saturn, L2-status, and Mercury, L9-spirituality) the two prominent >Godbrothers Bhaktisârangga Goswâmî and Ã… rîdhara Mahârâja officially >acknowledged Abhay's extensive scriptural expertise by awarding him the >title Bhaktivedanta. > > > >The 1940s were a very productive period for Abhay, who now fixed his >determination for the execution of the order of his spiritual master: to >spread Lord Caitanya's teachings in the English language. Although Abhay >still had household responsibilities throughout this period, he >nevertheless managed to write a complete translation and commentary on the >Bhagavad-gîtâ, which, unfortunately, mysteriously disappeared just before >publication in 1948. In 1944 (He was in Sa/Ve, Venus being L10 in H9, >giving him the aspect of devotion/Bhakti in his action/spirituality) he >also started Back to Godheadâ€â€a bi-weekly magazine that he single-handedly >financed, composed, typed, edited, and distributed. > > > >Abhay retired from family life in 1954. In September 1956 (he was in >Me/Ke/Ve, and in transit Mercury was in H9, Venus was in H7, and Ketu was >over the MEP5. In rashi, Mercury and Venus are placed in H9, and Ketu is >exactly conjunct Jupiter, L12-retreat) he moved to the Vamsî-gopâlajî >temple in Vrndâvana, where he rented a room on the roof at five rupees a >month. From there he often commuted to Delhi, in spite of his meagre >finances, to distribute copies of Back to Godhead and to preach. After >accepting the sannyâsa order of life, awarded to him by his Godbrother >Bhaktiprajñâna KeÅ¡ava Mahârâja on September 17, 1959 (Me/Ve/Sa/Ma/Mo) >in Mathurâ's KeÅ¡avajî Gaudiya Math temple, Abhay again returned to the >Vamsî-gopâlajî temple. Later, in July 1962, he transferred himself to >the Râdhâ-Dâmodara temple, also in Vrndâvana, where he started one of >his most ambitious projects: a multi-volume translation and commentary of >Krsna Dvaipâyana Vyâsa's Ã… rîmad-Bhâgavatamâ€â€an >eighteen-thousand-verse Sanskrit composition that elaborately explains an >astounding amount of details about the Supreme Personality of Godhead, >Ã… rî Krsna. > > > >HYPERLINK > " http://gitaclub.tripod.com/secPrabhupada/pages/Prabhupada.html " http://gitaclub.tripod.com/secPrabhupada/pages/Prabhupada.html > > > >Srila Prabhupada's father earned a humble but adequate living as a cloth >merchant (Mercury activity; Me, L9, strong) > > > >Thereafter, in 1918, Prabhupada became married and soon started a family. >Ra/Mo till 13 February 1918. Ra/Ma afterwards. The Moon, L7, and Mars, L4, >are both marriage significators for Capricorn lagna. > > > >I got my first child in 1921. Ju/Ju or Ju/Sa. Jupiter signifies children, >and Saturn, L2, signifies family and/or male children. > > > >Then I was initiated in 1933. > > > >In 1936, just on the 13th, December, I wrote him one letter. Not 13th. I >think by the beginning of December, 1936, I wrote one letter to Guru >Maharaja. And he passed away on the 31st December 1936 (Sa/Sa/Mo/Ju/Mo). > > > >In 1950, at the age of fifty-four, Srila Prabhupada retired from married >life, and four years later he adopted the vanaprastha (retired) order to >devote more time to his studies and writing. > > > >Then I began translating Srimad-Bhagavatam in 1960; > > > >Then, on August 13th, 1965, just a few days before his 69th birthday, A.C. >Bhaktivedanta Swami, philosopher, scholar, and saint, set out for America >to see what could be done. > > > >On Friday August 13th 1965., at 9:00 am. (Me/Ra/Ve/Sa/Mo), he sets sail for >America aboard the steamship 'Jaladuta'. By Saturday 14th., Bhaktivedanta >Swami experienced seasickness, dizziness, vomiting as they moved slowly in >heavy rains through the Bay of Bengal. Reaching Colombo, Sri Lanka on >19th., Bhaktivedanta Swami was able to go ashore and get some relief from >his seasickness. A diary is recorded of the exact route in Satswarupa das >Goswami's books in the chapter " Struggling Alone " (Satswarupa das Goswami. >1987. " Your Ever Well-Wisher " , pages 1-3.) > > > >After experiencing sea-sickness from the Atlantic crossing, in rough seas, >and in mid-Atlantic, and at the advanced age of 63 years of age A.C. >Bhaktivedanta Swami suffers two heart attacks. " If a third comes I will not >survive! " (During the travel, the Sun, heart significator passed first over >natal Jupiter/Ketu and afterwars over natal Sun. Also natal Mars, L4, was >exactly afflicted by transit Rahu/Ketu axis.) > > > >After a 35 day journey from Calcutta the Jaladuta docked at Commonwealth >pier at 5:30 am., September 17th 1965. (Me/Ra/Ve/Ke/Ra), the ship docks in >Boston, United States of America, and, two days later, the Brooklyn Pier at >Seventeenth Street, New York. > > > >15th February 1966. (Me/Ra/Ma/Sa/Ve), Bhaktivedanta Swami moved from Dr >Mishra's 'yoga' studio to an place of his own, a small narrow office >without furniture or telephone. > > > >Here, on July 11, 1966, (Me/Ju/Sa/Sa/Me, Saturn was over MEP3, aspecting >natal Mercury-documents) with financial and practical assistance from a >handful of supporters, Prabhupâda formally registered ISKCONâ€â€the >International Society for Krishna Consciousnessâ€â€as a nonprofit, >tax-exempt religious corporation; and two months later, on September 9, >Prabhupâda initiated his first eleven Western disciples during a smoky, >but ecstatic, Vedic fire sacrifice. > > > >In January 1967 A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami experiences his first airplane >flight to San Francisco > > > >September 1967., he finds himself suffering from a third heart attack since >leaving his beloved Vrindavan. > > > >Srila Prabhupada flew back to India on July 23rd 1967, and while regaining >his health he preached with his accompanying disciples. > > > >In July (24th) 1967. (Me/Ju/Ve/Ju/Ma, Mercury was placed in H6, with its >MEP exactly afflicted by Ketu. Jupiter was placed in H7 with its MEP >exactly afflicted by the Sun. Venus was placed in H8 exactly over natal >Sun. And transit Mars was exactly over transit Ketu. All his even houses >were afflicted by transit Rahu/Ketu and MEP1 was afflicted by transit Sun. >MEP4 was afflicted by Rahu/Ketu and he had to come back to India to receive >Ayurvedic treatment from a previous heart attack), Srila A.C. Bhaktivedanta >Swami leaves for India because of ill-health. > > > >On November 24th 1967 (Me/Ju/Mo/Ju/Ra), Srila Prabhupada returned to >America and a new spirit, the impetus to spread Krishna consciousness, >appeared within ISKCON. > > > >London, September 11, 1969 (Me/Sa/Ve/Ju/Me), Srila Prabhupada Arrives in >London > > > >In December (14th) 1969. (Me/Sa/Su/Ju/Ma, Saturn, Jupiter and Mars were >over the MEPs), he conduct the Grand Opening and 'Avahan' Installation of >Sri Sri Radha- > > > >On 28th July 1970. (Me/Sa/Ra/Sa/Ra), Srila Prabhupada forms the Governing >Body Commission (G.B.C.) as originally requested by Srila Bhaktisiddhanta >Saraswati Thakur for his disciples to do. The very next day (29th July) he >establishes the Bhaktivedanta Book Trust (BBT). > > > >August 29th 1970. (Me/Sa/Ra/Ke/Ju), marks the instituting of the 'Life >Membership Program' in Calcutta. > > > >May 1971., Srila Prabhupada signs a contract with MacMillan Book Publishing >Company to print the unabridged edition of 'Bhagavad Gita As It > > > >1971 (May) marks the acquiring of five acres of land in Sridham Mayapura, > > > >On April 20th 1975 (Ke/Ju/Sa/Me/Ra, Rahu, Ketu and the Sun were exactly >over the MEPs. Mercury was exactly conjunct the Sun) Srila Prabhupad >organises to bring local 'brahmin' priests to accompany his ecstatically >jubilant disciples, and meets with Prime Minister of India, Indira Gandhi. > > > >In 1977 Srila Prabhupada returned to Vrindavana which he considered his >home and on November 14th at 7:20 pm (Ke/Me/Ra/Mo/Ve), the attention of the >whole world turned toward his living quarters and His Divine Grace departed >from this world and entered the eternal pastimes of his most worshipable >Lord, Sri Sri Radha Shyamasundar. > > > >Best wishes, > > > > > > > >HYPERLINK " http://satva.blogspot.com/ " \nsatva > > > > > > > >Jorge Angelino > >Rua da Sociedade Filarmónica Perpétua Azeitonense, 29 >2925-598 Azeitão >Portugal > > >HYPERLINK " jorge.angelino " \njorge.angelino > > >tel: >mobile: > >210813674 >963916784 > > > > > >HYPERLINK > " https://www.plaxo.com/add_me?u=21475072036 & v0=451086 & k0=1260191974 " \nAdd >me to your address book... > >HYPERLINK " http://www.plaxo.com/signature " \nWant a signature like this? > > > > >-- > > >Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.2.6/287 - Release 21.03.2006 >  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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