Guest guest Posted November 17, 2005 Report Share Posted November 17, 2005 Choque na A1 fez três mortos e dois feridos em estado grave 17.11.2005 - 12h59 Lusa Dois dos 19 feridos do choque em cadeia desta manhã na A1, que provocou três mortos, estão em estado grave. O acidente ocorreu no sentido Sul-Norte, na zona de Aveiras, e envolveu 80 veÃculos. http://www.publico.clix.pt/shownews.asp?id=1239180 Dear List Members, Dasha: Ju/Ve/Mo/Me/Ve. Venus is the MMP in navamsa. Best wishes, satva Jorge Angelino Rua da Sociedade Filarmónica Perpétua Azeitonense, 29 2925-598 Azeitão Portugal jorge.angelino tel: mobile: 210813674 963916784 Add me to your address book... Want a signature like this? -- Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.3/174 - Release 17.11.2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2005 Report Share Posted November 19, 2005  How much weight should be given to planets in Navamsha in dustian houses? If the 6th, 8th or 12th house cantains a malatricona (sp?) is it's impact (houses therein) heavier? - Jorge Angelino SAMVA Thursday, November 17, 2005 4:50 PM PORTUGAL - chain collision involving 80 cars, 3 dead Choque na A1 fez três mortos e dois feridos em estado grave 17.11.2005 - 12h59 Lusa Dois dos 19 feridos do choque em cadeia desta manhã na A1, que provocou três mortos, estão em estado grave. O acidente ocorreu no sentido Sul-Norte, na zona de Aveiras, e envolveu 80 veÃculos. http://www.publico.clix.pt/shownews.asp?id=1239180 Dear List Members, Dasha: Ju/Ve/Mo/Me/Ve. Venus is the MMP in navamsa. Best wishes, satva Jorge Angelino Rua da Sociedade Filarmónica Perpétua Azeitonense, 292925-598 AzeitãoPortugal jorge.angelino tel: mobile: 210813674963916784 Add me to your address book... Want a signature like this? --Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.3/174 - Release 17.11.2005 Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.3/173 - Release 11/16/05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2005 Report Share Posted November 20, 2005 Dear Jacks, In pages 25/26 of the fourth revised edition of his book, How to Study Divisional Charts, says about the Methodology to Study Divisional Charts:   10. Occupation of the ascendant of divisional chart by the nodes or the eighth lord of the D-chart creates stress for the significations of the D-chart. The good placement in D-chart of the lord of the relevant house of D-I and the significator helps in promoting the significations of the D-chart. The bad placement in D-chart of the lord(s) of the relevant house(s) of D-I and the significator of the particular aspect of life causes stress regarding the significations of the D-chart. 11. The strength of planets in rasi chart should be given due consideration. 12. The planets influencing the ascendant, angles and trines of D-charts and the significator by conjunction/aspect touch the significations of the concerned divisional charts in their sub-periods. 13. Occupation of angles/trines by nodes in D-charts do not bless the native with good results in the relevant fields. 14. Any planet which is exalted in rasi chart and debilitated in the D-chart will give ordinary results. 15. For timing specific events, the strength of the lord of the sub-period is examined in the birth chart, D-chart, and transit. The strength of the sub-period lord in D-chart is of paramount importance. 16. When both the lords of the main period and sub-period are functional malefics, they denote destruction and loss in contrast with the functional benefics, which do no harm and promote their significations. 17. If a functional malefic planet is closely related with another functional malefic and is badly placed, it produces tension in its own sub-periods as well as in the sub-periods of other functional malefics in its own main period. 18. The transit influences are considered only in D-I. 19. The planetary aspects are considered in the D-charts. Even though not being categorized as close, exact or wide they are treated as close aspects. 20. The planets placed in the malefic houses of a D-chart become also weak for that reason, but this weakness is milder than the weakness of planets placed in the malefic houses of D-I. This weakness is considered for the significations of the relevant D-chart only. 21. If a planet is a functional benefic in D-I but turns out to be a functional malefic for the D-Chart, the intensity of its maleficness in the D-chart is less than when we consider a similar maleficness in D-I and is only applicable for the concerned D-chart i.e. its malefic impact would be limited to the respective D-Chart only and the influence would be applicable only in a milder way. The influence of bad placements and afflictions in divisional charts through aspects and conjunctions is 20% of such bad placements and afflictions in the rasi chart. Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Jacks domingo, 20 de Novembro de 2005 06:56 SAMVA Re: PORTUGAL - chain collision involving 80 cars, 3 dead How much weight should be given to planets in Navamsha in dustian houses? If the 6th, 8th or 12th house cantains a malatricona (sp?) is it's impact (houses therein) heavier? - Jorge Angelino SAMVA Thursday, November 17, 2005 4:50 PM PORTUGAL - chain collision involving 80 cars, 3 dead Choque na A1 fez três mortos e dois feridos em estado grave 17.11.2005 - 12h59 Lusa Dois dos 19 feridos do choque em cadeia desta manhã na A1, que provocou três mortos, estão em estado grave. O acidente ocorreu no sentido Sul-Norte, na zona de Aveiras, e envolveu 80 veÃculos. http://www.publico.clix.pt/shownews.asp?id=1239180 Dear List Members, Dasha: Ju/Ve/Mo/Me/Ve. Venus is the MMP in navamsa. Best wishes, satva Jorge Angelino Rua da Sociedade Filarmónica Perpétua Azeitonense, 29 2925-598 Azeitão Portugal jorge.angelino tel: mobile: 210813674 963916784 Add me to your address book... Want a signature like this? -- Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.3/174 - Release 17.11.2005 No virus found in this incoming message. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.3/173 - Release 11/16/05 -- Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.4/175 - Release 18.11.2005 -- Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.4/175 - Release 18.11.2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2005 Report Share Posted November 20, 2005  Dear Jorge: Thank you very much for posting this review of the principles of reading divisional charts, as per Professor V.K. Choudhry. It was helpful to me, and I'm sure it will be helpful to others. One comment I have on the situation is that Systems' Approach works so well in the main chart that there is not much need to also go into divisional charts. My experience with using SA for the past nine years is that the major areas of life and events are in the natal chart itself. Perhaps we can use the divisional charts for some refinement, if necessary. Maybe can address this issue and let us know how much relevance he gives to also studying the divisional charts during readings. Best wishes, David Hawthorne - Jorge Angelino SAMVA Sunday, November 20, 2005 3:58 AM RE: PORTUGAL - chain collision involving 80 cars, 3 dead Dear Jacks, In pages 25/26 of the fourth revised edition of his book, How to Study Divisional Charts, says about the Methodology to Study Divisional Charts: 10. Occupation of the ascendant of divisional chart by the nodes or the eighth lord of the D-chart creates stress for the significations of the D-chart. The good placement in D-chart of the lord of the relevant house of D-I and the significator helps in promoting the significations of the D-chart. The bad placement in D-chart of the lord(s) of the relevant house(s) of D-I and the significator of the particular aspect of life causes stress regarding the significations of the D-chart. 11. The strength of planets in rasi chart should be given due consideration. 12. The planets influencing the ascendant, angles and trines of D-charts and the significator by conjunction/aspect touch the significations of the concerned divisional charts in their sub-periods. 13. Occupation of angles/trines by nodes in D-charts do not bless the native with good results in the relevant fields. 14. Any planet which is exalted in rasi chart and debilitated in the D-chart will give ordinary results. 15. For timing specific events, the strength of the lord of the sub-period is examined in the birth chart, D-chart, and transit. The strength of the sub-period lord in D-chart is of paramount importance. 16. When both the lords of the main period and sub-period are functional malefics, they denote destruction and loss in contrast with the functional benefics, which do no harm and promote their significations. 17. If a functional malefic planet is closely related with another functional malefic and is badly placed, it produces tension in its own sub-periods as well as in the sub-periods of other functional malefics in its own main period. 18. The transit influences are considered only in D-I. 19. The planetary aspects are considered in the D-charts. Even though not being categorized as close, exact or wide they are treated as close aspects. 20. The planets placed in the malefic houses of a D-chart become also weak for that reason, but this weakness is milder than the weakness of planets placed in the malefic houses of D-I. This weakness is considered for the significations of the relevant D-chart only. 21. If a planet is a functional benefic in D-I but turns out to be a functional malefic for the D-Chart, the intensity of its maleficness in the D-chart is less than when we consider a similar maleficness in D-I and is only applicable for the concerned D-chart i.e. its malefic impact would be limited to the respective D-Chart only and the influence would be applicable only in a milder way. The influence of bad placements and afflictions in divisional charts through aspects and conjunctions is 20% of such bad placements and afflictions in the rasi chart. Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Jacksdomingo, 20 de Novembro de 2005 06:56SAMVA Subject: Re: PORTUGAL - chain collision involving 80 cars, 3 dead How much weight should be given to planets in Navamsha in dustian houses? If the 6th, 8th or 12th house cantains a malatricona (sp?) is it's impact (houses therein) heavier? - Jorge Angelino SAMVA Thursday, November 17, 2005 4:50 PM PORTUGAL - chain collision involving 80 cars, 3 dead Choque na A1 fez três mortos e dois feridos em estado grave 17.11.2005 - 12h59 Lusa Dois dos 19 feridos do choque em cadeia desta manhã na A1, que provocou três mortos, estão em estado grave. O acidente ocorreu no sentido Sul-Norte, na zona de Aveiras, e envolveu 80 veÃculos. http://www.publico.clix.pt/shownews.asp?id=1239180 Dear List Members, Dasha: Ju/Ve/Mo/Me/Ve. Venus is the MMP in navamsa. Best wishes, satva Jorge Angelino Rua da Sociedade Filarmónica Perpétua Azeitonense, 292925-598 AzeitãoPortugal jorge.angelino tel: mobile: 210813674963916784 Add me to your address book... 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Guest guest Posted November 20, 2005 Report Share Posted November 20, 2005 Hello dear Mr. Hawthorne, Primarily, the divisional charts are used for trial of strength of the strong planets of the rasi chart. Secondly if the ascendant of the divisional chart contains a mooltrikona sign it becomes an additional significator for the relevant aspect of life. In the case of the weak planets of rasi chart the study of divisional charts show only limited impact. The influence of bad placements and afflictions in divisional charts through aspects and conjunctions is 20% of such bad placements and afflictions in the rasi chart. Best wishes, - David Hawthorne SAMVA Sunday, November 20, 2005 11:26 PM Re: PORTUGAL - chain collision involving 80 cars, 3 dead Dear Jorge: Thank you very much for posting this review of the principles of reading divisional charts, as per Professor V.K. Choudhry. It was helpful to me, and I'm sure it will be helpful to others. One comment I have on the situation is that Systems' Approach works so well in the main chart that there is not much need to also go into divisional charts. My experience with using SA for the past nine years is that the major areas of life and events are in the natal chart itself. Perhaps we can use the divisional charts for some refinement, if necessary. Maybe can address this issue and let us know how much relevance he gives to also studying the divisional charts during readings. Best wishes, David Hawthorne - Jorge Angelino SAMVA Sunday, November 20, 2005 3:58 AM RE: PORTUGAL - chain collision involving 80 cars, 3 dead Dear Jacks, In pages 25/26 of the fourth revised edition of his book, How to Study Divisional Charts, says about the Methodology to Study Divisional Charts: 10. Occupation of the ascendant of divisional chart by the nodes or the eighth lord of the D-chart creates stress for the significations of the D-chart. The good placement in D-chart of the lord of the relevant house of D-I and the significator helps in promoting the significations of the D-chart. The bad placement in D-chart of the lord(s) of the relevant house(s) of D-I and the significator of the particular aspect of life causes stress regarding the significations of the D-chart. 11. The strength of planets in rasi chart should be given due consideration. 12. The planets influencing the ascendant, angles and trines of D-charts and the significator by conjunction/aspect touch the significations of the concerned divisional charts in their sub-periods. 13. Occupation of angles/trines by nodes in D-charts do not bless the native with good results in the relevant fields. 14. Any planet which is exalted in rasi chart and debilitated in the D-chart will give ordinary results. 15. For timing specific events, the strength of the lord of the sub-period is examined in the birth chart, D-chart, and transit. The strength of the sub-period lord in D-chart is of paramount importance. 16. When both the lords of the main period and sub-period are functional malefics, they denote destruction and loss in contrast with the functional benefics, which do no harm and promote their significations. 17. If a functional malefic planet is closely related with another functional malefic and is badly placed, it produces tension in its own sub-periods as well as in the sub-periods of other functional malefics in its own main period. 18. The transit influences are considered only in D-I. 19. The planetary aspects are considered in the D-charts. Even though not being categorized as close, exact or wide they are treated as close aspects. 20. The planets placed in the malefic houses of a D-chart become also weak for that reason, but this weakness is milder than the weakness of planets placed in the malefic houses of D-I. This weakness is considered for the significations of the relevant D-chart only. 21. If a planet is a functional benefic in D-I but turns out to be a functional malefic for the D-Chart, the intensity of its maleficness in the D-chart is less than when we consider a similar maleficness in D-I and is only applicable for the concerned D-chart i.e. its malefic impact would be limited to the respective D-Chart only and the influence would be applicable only in a milder way. The influence of bad placements and afflictions in divisional charts through aspects and conjunctions is 20% of such bad placements and afflictions in the rasi chart. Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Jacks domingo, 20 de Novembro de 2005 06:56 SAMVA Re: PORTUGAL - chain collision involving 80 cars, 3 dead How much weight should be given to planets in Navamsha in dustian houses? If the 6th, 8th or 12th house cantains a malatricona (sp?) is it's impact (houses therein) heavier? - Jorge Angelino SAMVA Thursday, November 17, 2005 4:50 PM PORTUGAL - chain collision involving 80 cars, 3 dead Choque na A1 fez três mortos e dois feridos em estado grave 17.11.2005 - 12h59 Lusa Dois dos 19 feridos do choque em cadeia desta manhã na A1, que provocou três mortos, estão em estado grave. O acidente ocorreu no sentido Sul-Norte, na zona de Aveiras, e envolveu 80 veÃculos. http://www.publico.clix.pt/shownews.asp?id=1239180 Dear List Members, Dasha: Ju/Ve/Mo/Me/Ve. Venus is the MMP in navamsa. Best wishes, satva Jorge Angelino Rua da Sociedade Filarmónica Perpétua Azeitonense, 29 2925-598 Azeitão Portugal jorge.angelino tel: mobile: 210813674 963916784 Add me to your address book...Want a signature like this? -- Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.3/174 - Release 17.11.2005 Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.3/173 - Release 11/16/05 -- Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.4/175 - Release 18.11.2005 -- Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.4/175 - Release 18.11.2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2005 Report Share Posted November 21, 2005  Dear : Thank you for your reply email. My main question is whether you use the divisional charts on a regular basis while doing readings, or only occassionally? Thank you, David Hawthorne - siha SAMVA Sunday, November 20, 2005 7:06 PM Re: PORTUGAL - chain collision involving 80 cars, 3 dead Hello dear Mr. Hawthorne,Primarily, the divisional charts are used for trial of strength of the strong planets of the rasi chart. Secondly if the ascendant of the divisional chart contains a mooltrikona sign it becomes an additional significator for the relevant aspect of life. In the case of the weak planets of rasi chart the study of divisional charts show only limited impact. The influence of bad placements and afflictions in divisional charts through aspects and conjunctions is 20% of such bad placements and afflictions in the rasi chart.Best wishes,- David HawthorneSAMVA Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 11:26 PMRe: PORTUGAL - chain collision involving 80 cars, 3 deadDear Jorge:Thank you very much for posting this review of the principles of reading divisional charts, as per Professor V.K. Choudhry.It was helpful to me, and I'm sure it will be helpful to others.One comment I have on the situation is that Systems' Approach works so well in the main chart that there is not much need to also go into divisional charts.My experience with using SA for the past nine years is that the major areas of life and events are in the natal chart itself.Perhaps we can use the divisional charts for some refinement, if necessary.Maybe can address this issue and let us know how much relevance he gives to also studying the divisional charts during readings.Best wishes,David Hawthorne- Jorge AngelinoSAMVA Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 3:58 AMRE: PORTUGAL - chain collision involving 80 cars, 3 deadDear Jacks,In pages 25/26 of the fourth revised edition of his book, How to Study Divisional Charts, says about the Methodology to Study Divisional Charts: 10. Occupation of the ascendant of divisional chart by the nodes or the eighth lord of the D-chart creates stress for the significations of the D-chart. The good placement in D-chart of the lord of the relevant house of D-I and the significator helps in promoting the significations of the D-chart. The bad placement in D-chart of the lord(s) of the relevant house(s) of D-I and the significator of the particular aspect of life causes stress regarding the significations of the D-chart.11. The strength of planets in rasi chart should be given due consideration.12. The planets influencing the ascendant, angles and trines of D-charts and the significator by conjunction/aspect touch the significations of the concerned divisional charts in their sub-periods.13. Occupation of angles/trines by nodes in D-charts do not bless the native with good results in the relevant fields.14. Any planet which is exalted in rasi chart and debilitated in the D-chart will give ordinary results.15. For timing specific events, the strength of the lord of the sub-period is examined in the birth chart, D-chart, and transit. The strength of the sub-period lord in D-chart is of paramount importance.16. When both the lords of the main period and sub-period are functional malefics, they denote destruction and loss in contrast with the functional benefics, which do no harm and promote their significations.17. If a functional malefic planet is closely related with another functional malefic and is badly placed, it produces tension in its own sub-periods as well as in the sub-periods of other functional malefics in its own main period.18. The transit influences are considered only in D-I.19. The planetary aspects are considered in the D-charts. Even though not being categorized as close, exact or wide they are treated as close aspects.20. The planets placed in the malefic houses of a D-chart become also weak for that reason, but this weakness is milder than the weakness of planets placed in the malefic houses of D-I. This weakness is considered for the significations of the relevant D-chart only.21. If a planet is a functional benefic in D-I but turns out to be a functional malefic for the D-Chart, the intensity of its maleficness in the D-chart is less than when we consider a similar maleficness in D-I and is only applicable for the concerned D-chart i.e. its malefic impact would be limited to the respective D-Chart only and the influence would be applicable only in a milder way. The influence of bad placements and afflictions in divisional charts through aspects and conjunctions is 20% of such bad placements and afflictions in the rasi chart.Best wishes,JorgeSAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Jacksdomingo, 20 de Novembro de 2005 06:56SAMVA Subject: Re: PORTUGAL - chain collision involving 80 cars, 3 deadHow much weight should be given to planets in Navamsha in dustian houses? If the 6th, 8th or 12th house cantains a malatricona (sp?) is it's impact (houses therein) heavier?- Jorge AngelinoSAMVA Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 4:50 PM PORTUGAL - chain collision involving 80 cars, 3 deadChoque na A1 fez três mortos e dois feridos em estado grave17.11.2005 - 12h59 LusaDois dos 19 feridos do choque em cadeia desta manhã na A1, que provocou três mortos, estão em estado grave. O acidente ocorreu no sentido Sul-Norte, na zona de Aveiras, e envolveu 80 veÃculos.http://www.publico.clix.pt/shownews.asp?id=1239180Dear List Members,Dasha: Ju/Ve/Mo/Me/Ve.Venus is the MMP in navamsa.Best wishes,satvaJorge Angelino Rua da Sociedade Filarmónica Perpétua Azeitonense, 292925-598 AzeitãoPortugaljorge.angelino tel:mobile: 210813674963916784Add me to your address book...Want a signature like this?--Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.3/174 - Release 17.11.2005Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.3/173 - Release 11/16/05--Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.4/175 - Release 18.11.2005--Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.4/175 - Release 18.11.2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2005 Report Share Posted November 21, 2005  Hello Mr. Hawthorne, I see it in case of a strong planet which itself is not very common. In case of readings for specific aspects I use it regularly. Best wishes, - David Hawthorne SAMVA Monday, November 21, 2005 11:57 PM Re: PORTUGAL - chain collision involving 80 cars, 3 dead Dear : Thank you for your reply email. My main question is whether you use the divisional charts on a regular basis while doing readings, or only occassionally? Thank you, David Hawthorne - siha SAMVA Sunday, November 20, 2005 7:06 PM Re: PORTUGAL - chain collision involving 80 cars, 3 dead Hello dear Mr. Hawthorne,Primarily, the divisional charts are used for trial of strength of the strong planets of the rasi chart. Secondly if the ascendant of the divisional chart contains a mooltrikona sign it becomes an additional significator for the relevant aspect of life. In the case of the weak planets of rasi chart the study of divisional charts show only limited impact. The influence of bad placements and afflictions in divisional charts through aspects and conjunctions is 20% of such bad placements and afflictions in the rasi chart.Best wishes,- David HawthorneSAMVA Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 11:26 PMRe: PORTUGAL - chain collision involving 80 cars, 3 deadDear Jorge:Thank you very much for posting this review of the principles of reading divisional charts, as per Professor V.K. Choudhry.It was helpful to me, and I'm sure it will be helpful to others.One comment I have on the situation is that Systems' Approach works so well in the main chart that there is not much need to also go into divisional charts.My experience with using SA for the past nine years is that the major areas of life and events are in the natal chart itself.Perhaps we can use the divisional charts for some refinement, if necessary.Maybe can address this issue and let us know how much relevance he gives to also studying the divisional charts during readings.Best wishes,David Hawthorne- Jorge AngelinoSAMVA Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 3:58 AMRE: PORTUGAL - chain collision involving 80 cars, 3 deadDear Jacks,In pages 25/26 of the fourth revised edition of his book, How to Study Divisional Charts, says about the Methodology to Study Divisional Charts: 10. Occupation of the ascendant of divisional chart by the nodes or the eighth lord of the D-chart creates stress for the significations of the D-chart. The good placement in D-chart of the lord of the relevant house of D-I and the significator helps in promoting the significations of the D-chart. The bad placement in D-chart of the lord(s) of the relevant house(s) of D-I and the significator of the particular aspect of life causes stress regarding the significations of the D-chart.11. The strength of planets in rasi chart should be given due consideration.12. The planets influencing the ascendant, angles and trines of D-charts and the significator by conjunction/aspect touch the significations of the concerned divisional charts in their sub-periods.13. Occupation of angles/trines by nodes in D-charts do not bless the native with good results in the relevant fields.14. Any planet which is exalted in rasi chart and debilitated in the D-chart will give ordinary results.15. For timing specific events, the strength of the lord of the sub-period is examined in the birth chart, D-chart, and transit. The strength of the sub-period lord in D-chart is of paramount importance.16. When both the lords of the main period and sub-period are functional malefics, they denote destruction and loss in contrast with the functional benefics, which do no harm and promote their significations.17. If a functional malefic planet is closely related with another functional malefic and is badly placed, it produces tension in its own sub-periods as well as in the sub-periods of other functional malefics in its own main period.18. The transit influences are considered only in D-I.19. The planetary aspects are considered in the D-charts. Even though not being categorized as close, exact or wide they are treated as close aspects.20. The planets placed in the malefic houses of a D-chart become also weak for that reason, but this weakness is milder than the weakness of planets placed in the malefic houses of D-I. This weakness is considered for the significations of the relevant D-chart only.21. If a planet is a functional benefic in D-I but turns out to be a functional malefic for the D-Chart, the intensity of its maleficness in the D-chart is less than when we consider a similar maleficness in D-I and is only applicable for the concerned D-chart i.e. its malefic impact would be limited to the respective D-Chart only and the influence would be applicable only in a milder way. The influence of bad placements and afflictions in divisional charts through aspects and conjunctions is 20% of such bad placements and afflictions in the rasi chart.Best wishes,JorgeSAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Jacksdomingo, 20 de Novembro de 2005 06:56SAMVA Subject: Re: PORTUGAL - chain collision involving 80 cars, 3 deadHow much weight should be given to planets in Navamsha in dustian houses? If the 6th, 8th or 12th house cantains a malatricona (sp?) is it's impact (houses therein) heavier?- Jorge AngelinoSAMVA Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 4:50 PM PORTUGAL - chain collision involving 80 cars, 3 deadChoque na A1 fez três mortos e dois feridos em estado grave17.11.2005 - 12h59 LusaDois dos 19 feridos do choque em cadeia desta manhã na A1, que provocou três mortos, estão em estado grave. O acidente ocorreu no sentido Sul-Norte, na zona de Aveiras, e envolveu 80 veÃculos.http://www.publico.clix.pt/shownews.asp?id=1239180Dear List Members,Dasha: Ju/Ve/Mo/Me/Ve.Venus is the MMP in navamsa.Best wishes,satvaJorge Angelino Rua da Sociedade Filarmónica Perpétua Azeitonense, 292925-598 AzeitãoPortugaljorge.angelino tel:mobile: 210813674963916784Add me to your address book...Want a signature like this?--Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.3/174 - Release 17.11.2005Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.3/173 - Release 11/16/05--Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.4/175 - Release 18.11.2005--Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.4/175 - Release 18.11.2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2005 Report Share Posted November 21, 2005  Dear Professor: Thank you... David Hawthorne - siha SAMVA Monday, November 21, 2005 5:45 PM Re: PORTUGAL - chain collision involving 80 cars, 3 dead Hello Mr. Hawthorne, I see it in case of a strong planet which itself is not very common. In case of readings for specific aspects I use it regularly. Best wishes, - David Hawthorne SAMVA Monday, November 21, 2005 11:57 PM Re: PORTUGAL - chain collision involving 80 cars, 3 dead Dear : Thank you for your reply email. My main question is whether you use the divisional charts on a regular basis while doing readings, or only occassionally? Thank you, David Hawthorne - siha SAMVA Sunday, November 20, 2005 7:06 PM Re: PORTUGAL - chain collision involving 80 cars, 3 dead Hello dear Mr. Hawthorne,Primarily, the divisional charts are used for trial of strength of the strong planets of the rasi chart. Secondly if the ascendant of the divisional chart contains a mooltrikona sign it becomes an additional significator for the relevant aspect of life. In the case of the weak planets of rasi chart the study of divisional charts show only limited impact. The influence of bad placements and afflictions in divisional charts through aspects and conjunctions is 20% of such bad placements and afflictions in the rasi chart.Best wishes,- David HawthorneSAMVA Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 11:26 PMRe: PORTUGAL - chain collision involving 80 cars, 3 deadDear Jorge:Thank you very much for posting this review of the principles of reading divisional charts, as per Professor V.K. Choudhry.It was helpful to me, and I'm sure it will be helpful to others.One comment I have on the situation is that Systems' Approach works so well in the main chart that there is not much need to also go into divisional charts.My experience with using SA for the past nine years is that the major areas of life and events are in the natal chart itself.Perhaps we can use the divisional charts for some refinement, if necessary.Maybe can address this issue and let us know how much relevance he gives to also studying the divisional charts during readings.Best wishes,David Hawthorne- Jorge AngelinoSAMVA Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 3:58 AMRE: PORTUGAL - chain collision involving 80 cars, 3 deadDear Jacks,In pages 25/26 of the fourth revised edition of his book, How to Study Divisional Charts, says about the Methodology to Study Divisional Charts: 10. Occupation of the ascendant of divisional chart by the nodes or the eighth lord of the D-chart creates stress for the significations of the D-chart. The good placement in D-chart of the lord of the relevant house of D-I and the significator helps in promoting the significations of the D-chart. The bad placement in D-chart of the lord(s) of the relevant house(s) of D-I and the significator of the particular aspect of life causes stress regarding the significations of the D-chart.11. The strength of planets in rasi chart should be given due consideration.12. The planets influencing the ascendant, angles and trines of D-charts and the significator by conjunction/aspect touch the significations of the concerned divisional charts in their sub-periods.13. Occupation of angles/trines by nodes in D-charts do not bless the native with good results in the relevant fields.14. Any planet which is exalted in rasi chart and debilitated in the D-chart will give ordinary results.15. For timing specific events, the strength of the lord of the sub-period is examined in the birth chart, D-chart, and transit. The strength of the sub-period lord in D-chart is of paramount importance.16. When both the lords of the main period and sub-period are functional malefics, they denote destruction and loss in contrast with the functional benefics, which do no harm and promote their significations.17. If a functional malefic planet is closely related with another functional malefic and is badly placed, it produces tension in its own sub-periods as well as in the sub-periods of other functional malefics in its own main period.18. The transit influences are considered only in D-I.19. The planetary aspects are considered in the D-charts. Even though not being categorized as close, exact or wide they are treated as close aspects.20. The planets placed in the malefic houses of a D-chart become also weak for that reason, but this weakness is milder than the weakness of planets placed in the malefic houses of D-I. This weakness is considered for the significations of the relevant D-chart only.21. If a planet is a functional benefic in D-I but turns out to be a functional malefic for the D-Chart, the intensity of its maleficness in the D-chart is less than when we consider a similar maleficness in D-I and is only applicable for the concerned D-chart i.e. its malefic impact would be limited to the respective D-Chart only and the influence would be applicable only in a milder way. The influence of bad placements and afflictions in divisional charts through aspects and conjunctions is 20% of such bad placements and afflictions in the rasi chart.Best wishes,JorgeSAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Jacksdomingo, 20 de Novembro de 2005 06:56SAMVA Subject: Re: PORTUGAL - chain collision involving 80 cars, 3 deadHow much weight should be given to planets in Navamsha in dustian houses? If the 6th, 8th or 12th house cantains a malatricona (sp?) is it's impact (houses therein) heavier?- Jorge AngelinoSAMVA Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 4:50 PM PORTUGAL - chain collision involving 80 cars, 3 deadChoque na A1 fez três mortos e dois feridos em estado grave17.11.2005 - 12h59 LusaDois dos 19 feridos do choque em cadeia desta manhã na A1, que provocou três mortos, estão em estado grave. O acidente ocorreu no sentido Sul-Norte, na zona de Aveiras, e envolveu 80 veÃculos.http://www.publico.clix.pt/shownews.asp?id=1239180Dear List Members,Dasha: Ju/Ve/Mo/Me/Ve.Venus is the MMP in navamsa.Best wishes,satvaJorge Angelino Rua da Sociedade Filarmónica Perpétua Azeitonense, 292925-598 AzeitãoPortugaljorge.angelino tel:mobile: 210813674963916784Add me to your address book...Want a signature like this?--Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.3/174 - Release 17.11.2005Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.3/173 - Release 11/16/05--Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.4/175 - Release 18.11.2005--Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.4/175 - Release 18.11.2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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