March 01, 1781: History before Astrology

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This comment is by way of clarifying the methodological distinction between the history and the astrology of the mundane, in the case under investigation: March 01, 1781..

 

The historical record for this mundane natus, March 1, 1781, has been comparatively generous in the disclosure of time orientation. Whereas for July 2, 1776, the historical record can only bring the astrologer to within a range of time moments of about 1.5 hours in the late afternoon; for March 1, 1781, it's much richer, giving a duration of about 0.25 to 0.35 of an hour located over the noontime.

 

For March 1, 1781 we know from the Journals of the Continental Congress that the Congressional order, reported in the minutes of February 27th, instructed that the final signatures in ratification by the delegates from the State of Maryland, Daniel Carroll and John Hanson, be publicized at 12:00 noon, on the 1st March, immediately on final signature closure. "Letters of the Delegates to Congress" for that day confirm that all went as scheduled. Just after 12:00 noon Congress closed shop in recess and joined Philadelphia's city-wide celebration. There was no Congressional work to be done that historic afternoon.

 

That afternoon, during the lagnas of mid-late Gemini, as well all of Cancer and Leo, the celebrants were in full swing. At the Ron Grimes favored afternoon time moment, 03:19 p.m., the Congressional members were dining ("moderns" would now say "lunching") at the home of Thomas McKean, the first President of the USA's less-than-one day old constitutional national government, the "United States in Congress Assembled."

 

For that day's historic one time moment of closure, in the range, say 10 minutes before Noon until 10 minutes after Noon, the historian can tell us confidently nothing more than that it happened in that range; and so the historian must then defer to the competent rectification techniques of the astrologer, in order to arrive at the precise time moment of closure. Until there’s an alternative contribution to SAMVA within this narrow 20 minute noontime range, but

materially at variance with the Jorge rectified lagna @10deg 16’ 25” of Gemini, until then, SAMVA has determined with confidence the birth moment of the USA’s national Government.

 

For proposed rectifications of other times of day, one can reasonably conclude possibly that its proponent may be practicing some radically a-priori variant of esoteric astrology, wherein all that matters historically is the date, but not the time of day as disclosed by the historical record.

 

By the way, in closing, a very recent message contributor to the USA horoscopes’ comments at AstroDataBank, appears to be a practitioner of a certain esoteric method for astrology. Mr. “CJ” maintains that the USA was born late evening, like 9:50 p.m., on June 14, 1775, the

historic day of the founding of the Continental Army [and still the official birthday of the U.S. Army]. For Mr. "CJ" it’s just a two variable determinant: [01] the date, Sun in Tropical Gemini, and [02] the Aquarius Ascendant (Tropical). These two major variables are all that really matters to his methodology. A historically derived, estimated time of day only gets in his way, as does an explicit rationale for treating the Continental Army as the American nation’s constituency. Mr. “CJ” just knows the truth when he imagines it to be so. Mr. “CJ” is apparently a devotee of the occultist, Alice Bailey, who is the inspirational source of the orientation of his variant of extreme a-priorism.

 

However, in fairness to Mr. “CJ”, here’s part of a comment of his, which is as out of character as it is empirical; that quote: “The problem with standard rectification is that one can probably find a transit aspect to support any event with almost any chart if one uses enough aspects and spins the event.” Unquote.

 

Best that as it may, the historical record “noses out” astrological induction in any dead heat finish.

 

Best wishes, John

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