INDONESIA still in great danger/ACEH is not INDONESIA

January 5, 2005

As the tragic and catastrophic story of the South Asia Tsunami of

December 26, 2004 continues to unfold, I wish to raise FOUR points of

clarification, which ought to be propaedeutic to any future relevant

horoscopic analysis of the event in question:

FIRST:

As for the doubter's of the SAMVA horoscope (Rectification by Jorge)

for Indonesia: August 17, 1945. Among the doubters are those who

raise the matter of Indonesia's so-called birth on December 27, 1949.

Even Nicholas Campion maintains that the 1949 event is the basis of

THE birthchart. In brief, Campion is wrong and Jorge is right. The

1945 horoscope is the " Nation-State " birth chart; the 1949 horoscope

is the " National Government " birth chart. Grasping the difference is

crucial to choosing science over chaos.

SECOND:

The geographic extent of the Indonesian nation-state is NOT co-

terminous with the geographic extent of the Indonesian national

government: The geography of the Indonesian national government

encompasses the " 27 " provinces of the so-called nation, which is the

expanse of Indonesia as commonly understood and reported in the

press; Whereas in distinction, the geography of the Indonesian nation-

state comprises " 25 " provinces, which excludes 2 " provinces " : Aceh

and West Papua (New Guinea). Aceh became its own nation-state on

December 4, 1976. The revolution to expel the Indonesian invaders

continues. The Indonesian government is no more welcome in Aceh than

George III's armies were welcome in the United States between July

2nd, 1776 and September 3, 1783. Furthermore, the nationhood of Aceh,

preceding the existence of the Aceh state (necessarily so, logically

and historically), has been in existence since the year 1530.

THIRD:

Jorge rightly points out the impact of the Tsunami on the 1945

Indonesia chart. However, the impact relates to the devastation in

north Sumatra, in areas OTHER THAN Aceh. " Other than Aceh " is the

pivotal consideration here, for reasons logically entailed in the

matters mentioned above.

FOURTH:

The 1949 Indonesia chart doesn't show the catastrophic impact of the

Tsunami. (And, of course, it shouldn't for one who grasps the

metaphysical difference of STATE and GOVERNMENT.) However, very much

to the contrary, the Tsunami's devastation of Aceh has presented a

golden political opportunity for the national government of Indonesia

to complete its task of the violent expropriation and domination of

the Aceh people. The likelihood of complete annexation is now

inevitable. The Tsunami event of December 26 represents, for the

government of Indonesia, beneficence not maleficence.

My best wishes to Jorge and Professor Choudry.

John

SAMVA , " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino@n...>

wrote:

> Dear Professor,

>

> Thank you for reporting it.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Jorge

>

> SIHA [siha@v...]

> domingo, 2 de Janeiro de 2005 03:00

> SAMVA

> Re: INDONESIA still in great danger

>

> Hello dear Jorge,

>

> Fresh earthquake was felt in Indonesia (Sumatra) yesterday and it

was

> about

> 7 on richtor scale. However, no fresh damage was reported

immediately.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> -

> " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino@n...>

> <SAMVA >

> Friday, December 31, 2004 7:06 AM

> INDONESIA still in great danger

>

> Dear List Members,

>

> Indonesia is still in great danger:

>

> 1) The transit Moon is in H12.

>

> 2) Natal Jupiter is being exactly afflicted by Rahu and transit

Jupiter

> is under the partial aspects of natal Saturn and natal Mars.

>

> 3) Natal Venus will be closely afflicted by transit Sun and transit

> Venus is, together with transit Mercury, L1, exactly afflicted by

natal

> Mars.

>

> 4) Transit Saturn keeps afflicting the MEP4 (almost exactly).

>

> Let us hope nothing serious happens.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Jorge

>

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January 6, 2005

Dear John,

Thank you for this precious clarification regarding ACEH.

In fact, the 1949 Indonesia chart does not explain the catastrophes I

have used in the rectification. The August 17, 1945 chart does.

You said, " Aceh became its own nation-state on December 4, 1976. " Do you

know any details of it? Thanks in advance.

Best wishes,

Jorge

John T W B [jtwbjakarta]

quinta-feira, 6 de Janeiro de 2005 06:38

SAMVA