Guest guest Posted December 26, 2004 Report Share Posted December 26, 2004 Professor, Could sixth house also be included in the significator list for earthquakes. Is it because it's an earth sign as well as difficulties? Sally In the Indonesia chart, Ketu hits the sixth house mep by 6 degrees, 6L aspect on the fourth. That's two hits around the sixth house, I suppose it is involved rather than the eighth. Seems like this devastation would be eighth house... maybe because the quake was elsewhere and the water was the cause. I suppose your point on the strange influence of Rahu on Venus is why the effect is roundabout.. It seems the Thailand chart is also sixth house afflicted now too. Maybe there is something to devastation and the sixth house. Thanks. Sally Sally Spencer wrote: Yes John, I believe the shake up was in the twelfth house, people's psyche or unconscious.. Sally John TWB wrote: Right you are Sally about the effective outcome of the Sumatra quakes. The Indonesian archipelago is regularly hammered this way by mother nature, but it's usually well offshore leaving most of us inhabitants down here, those of us on the high and dry, quite safe. John Sally Spencer <sally234 wrote: Hi Jorge, I am blind, when it comes to charts these days.. I thought Rahu fifth aspected Jupiter... And by the way earthquakes are eighth house at least in SA.. But I'm guessing the 6L aspect on fourth was the cause..it's a natal trigger as you pointed out. TSun was afflicting the TMoon as fourth house significator... TSun was afflicting natal Rahu as well. Apparently for the most part it shook people up , only two houses were reported damaged as of today.. Thanks. Sally Sixth house The sixth house rules public amity, relations with neighbors, general health of the public, political stability, political opposition, financial solvency of the nation, litigations, judicial functioning, communal harmony in the country and labour relations. Financial strength / Tax Departments etc Jorge Angelino wrote: > Dear Sally, > > > > Thanks for the e-mail. > > > > Indonesia is a very peculiar country in that natal Venus is placed in > the mid-point of Rahu and FM Saturn, Saturn afflicts closely MEPs 10, > 12, 4 and 7, and the FM Sun, being in extreme infancy, afflicts > exactly MEPs 11 and 5. > > > > Besides this, a close look to the Navamsha chart is also very > important to get the feeling of the chart. In Navamsha, the lagna is > vargottama but 6 planets are placed in dusthanas: Jupiter, Rahu, Sun, > Venus, Ketu and Mars. Jupiter, L4, is afflicted by Rahu, Ketu, Mars > and Saturn. Venus, L2, is afflicted by the Sun and Ketu. Being > vargottama, it means that the FMPs in Rashi are also FMPs in Navamsha, > which gives them a strong malefic nature. > > > > Let us look to the Rashi, Navamsha and Transit charts for this event: > > > > > > Indonesia is in Mo/Ju/Ve. The natal Moon, being debilitated in Rashi > and afflicted by Rahu and the Sun in Navamsha, is beginning to become > afflicted by transit MMP Mars. In transit, the Moon is debilitated in > Navamsha and closely afflicted by Mars and Ketu. Natal Jupiter, L4, > being weak in Rashi and strongly afflicted in Navamsha, is exactly > afflicted by the 8th aspect of transit Rahu from the 8th house > (non-SA) and closely afflicted by the 3rd aspect of transit Saturn. > Transit Jupiter is closely afflicted by the 75% 4th aspect of natal > Saturn and exactly afflicted by the 50% aspect 5th aspect of natal > Mars (non-SA). Natal Venus is under the multiple malefic influences of > Rahu, Ketu and Saturn. Transit Venus is closely afflicted by the 8th > aspect of natal Rahu (non-SA) and widely afflicted by natal Mars. > > > > Transit Saturn, L6 (earthquakes) is closely afflicting MEPs 12, 4 and 7. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Jorge > > > > > > > Sally Spencer [sally234] > domingo, 26 de Dezembro de 2004 03:08 > SAMVA > Re: For Jorge;) Earthquake in Sumatra > > > > TRahu in 8H aspecting within two degrees of natal Jupiter in first- > fourth lord in Indonesia chart. > > Best wishes, > Sally > > Sally Spencer wrote: > >> >> >> 2004/12/26 00:58 M 8.5 OFF W COAST OF NORTHERN SUMATRA Z= 10km >> 3.30N 95.78E >> >> This information is provided by the USGS >> National Earthquake Information Center. >> (Address problems to: se >> ) >> >> These parameters are preliminary and subject to revision. >> >> A magnitude 8.5 earthquake OFF THE W COAST OF NORTHERN SUMATRA has >> occurred at: >> 3.30N 95.78E Depth 10km Sun Dec 26 00:58:50 2004 UTC >> >> Time: Universal Time (UTC) Sun Dec 26 00:58:50 2004 >> Time Near Epicenter Sun Dec 26 06:58:50 2004 >> Eastern Standard Time (EST) Sat Dec 25 19:58:50 2004 >> Central Standard Time (CST) Sat Dec 25 18:58:50 2004 >> Mountain Standard Time (MST) Sat Dec 25 17:58:50 2004 >> Pacific Standard Time (PST) Sat Dec 25 16:58:50 2004 >> Alaska Standard Time (AST) Sat Dec 25 15:58:50 2004 >> Hawaii Standard Time (HST) Sat Dec 25 14:58:50 2004 >> >> Location with respect to nearby cities: >> 250 km (155 miles) SSE of Banda Aceh, Sumatra, Indonesia >> 320 km (200 miles) W of Medan, Sumatra, Indonesia >> 1260 km (780 miles) SSW of BANGKOK, Thailand >> 1605 km (1000 miles) NW of JAKARTA, Java, Indonesia >> >> For maps, additional information, and subsequent updates, >> please consult: >> http://earthquake.usgs.gov/recenteqsww/Quakes/usslav.htm .. >> >> Flinn-Engdahl Region Number = 705 >> >> For the most significant earthquakes, information may also be >> available from the USGS Earthquake Hazards Program home page at >> http://earthquake.usgs.gov/ and the USGS home page at >> http://www.usgs.gov/ .. >> >> You will continue to receive messages like this when >> earthquakes occur that have magnitude 5.5 or greater >> anywhere in the world OR 4.5 or greater in the contiguous >> US, Hawaii, and Alaska (excluding the Aleutian Islands). >> >> >> U.S. Geological Survey -- Science for a Changing World >> >> >> -- >> You are receiving this message through the bigquake mailing list. To >> , >> go to http://earthquake.usgs.gov/products/neic_data_services.html or send >> mail to bigquake- >> >> > > > -- > Sally Spencer > Enlightened Living Services > http://www.Devi3.byregion.net > > > > > > -- > Sally Spencer > Enlightened Living Services > http://www.Devi3.byregion.net > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2004 Report Share Posted December 26, 2004 Hello Ms Sally, Sixth house lord can always possibily be included as an afflicting planet. Best wishes, - " Sally Spencer " <sally234 <SAMVA > Monday, December 27, 2004 8:49 AM Professor.. Earthquake in Sumatra > Professor, Could sixth house also be included in the significator list > for earthquakes. Is it because it's an earth sign as well as > difficulties? Sally > > In the Indonesia chart, Ketu hits the sixth house mep by 6 degrees, 6L > aspect on the fourth. That's two hits around the sixth house, I > suppose it is involved rather than the eighth. Seems like this > devastation would be eighth house... maybe because the quake was > elsewhere and the water was the cause. I suppose your point on the > strange influence of Rahu on Venus is why the effect is roundabout.. > It seems the Thailand chart is also sixth house afflicted now too. > Maybe there is something to devastation and the sixth house. > > > Thanks. Sally > > Sally Spencer wrote: > > > Yes John, I believe the shake up was in the twelfth house, people's > > psyche or unconscious.. Sally > > > > John TWB wrote: > > > >> Right you are Sally about the effective outcome of the Sumatra quakes. > >> > >> The Indonesian archipelago is regularly hammered this way by mother > >> nature, but it's usually well offshore leaving most of us inhabitants > >> down here, those of us on the high and dry, quite safe. > >> > >> John > >> > >> Sally Spencer <sally234 wrote: > >> > >> Hi Jorge, > >> > >> I am blind, when it comes to charts these days.. I thought Rahu > >> fifth > >> aspected Jupiter... And by the way earthquakes are eighth house > >> at least > >> in SA.. But I'm guessing the 6L aspect on fourth was the > >> cause..it's a > >> natal trigger as you pointed out. > >> TSun was afflicting the TMoon as fourth house significator... > >> TSun was afflicting natal Rahu as well. Apparently for the most > >> part it > >> shook people up , only two houses were reported damaged as of today.. > >> > >> Thanks. Sally > >> > >> Sixth house > >> The sixth house rules public amity, relations with neighbors, > >> general health of the public, political stability, political > >> opposition, financial solvency of the nation, litigations, judicial > >> functioning, communal harmony in the country and labour relations. > >> Financial strength / Tax Departments etc > >> > >> > >> Jorge Angelino wrote: > >> > >> > Dear Sally, > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Thanks for the e-mail. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Indonesia is a very peculiar country in that natal Venus is > >> placed in > >> > the mid-point of Rahu and FM Saturn, Saturn afflicts closely > >> MEPs 10, > >> > 12, 4 and 7, and the FM Sun, being in extreme infancy, afflicts > >> > exactly MEPs 11 and 5. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Besides this, a close look to the Navamsha chart is also very > >> > important to get the feeling of the chart. In Navamsha, the > >> lagna is > >> > vargottama but 6 planets are placed in dusthanas: Jupiter, > >> Rahu, Sun, > >> > Venus, Ketu and Mars. Jupiter, L4, is afflicted by Rahu, Ketu, > >> Mars > >> > and Saturn. Venus, L2, is afflicted by the Sun and Ketu. Being > >> > vargottama, it means that the FMPs in Rashi are also FMPs in > >> Navamsha, > >> > which gives them a strong malefic nature. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Let us look to the Rashi, Navamsha and Transit charts for this > >> event: > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Indonesia is in Mo/Ju/Ve. The natal Moon, being debilitated in > >> Rashi > >> > and afflicted by Rahu and the Sun in Navamsha, is beginning to > >> become > >> > afflicted by transit MMP Mars. In transit, the Moon is > >> debilitated in > >> > Navamsha and closely afflicted by Mars and Ketu. Natal Jupiter, > >> L4, > >> > being weak in Rashi and strongly afflicted in Navamsha, is exactly > >> > afflicted by the 8th aspect of transit Rahu from the 8th house > >> > (non-SA) and closely afflicted by the 3rd aspect of transit > >> Saturn. > >> > Transit Jupiter is closely afflicted by the 75% 4th aspect of > >> natal > >> > Saturn and exactly afflicted by the 50% aspect 5th aspect of natal > >> > Mars (non-SA). Natal Venus is under the multiple malefic > >> influences of > >> > Rahu, Ketu and Saturn. Transit Venus is closely afflicted by > >> the 8th > >> > aspect of natal Rahu (non-SA) and widely afflicted by natal Mars. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Transit Saturn, L6 (earthquakes) is closely afflicting MEPs 12, > >> 4 and 7. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Best wishes, > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Jorge > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Sally Spencer [sally234] > >> > domingo, 26 de Dezembro de 2004 03:08 > >> > SAMVA > >> > Re: For Jorge;) Earthquake in Sumatra > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > TRahu in 8H aspecting within two degrees of natal Jupiter in > >> first- > >> > fourth lord in Indonesia chart. > >> > > >> > Best wishes, > >> > Sally > >> > > >> > Sally Spencer wrote: > >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> 2004/12/26 00:58 M 8.5 OFF W COAST OF NORTHERN SUMATRA Z= 10km > >> >> 3.30N 95.78E > >> >> > >> >> This information is provided by the USGS > >> >> National Earthquake Information Center. > >> >> (Address problems to: se > >> >> ) > >> >> > >> >> These parameters are preliminary and subject to revision. > >> >> > >> >> A magnitude 8.5 earthquake OFF THE W COAST OF NORTHERN SUMATRA > >> has > >> >> occurred at: > >> >> 3.30N 95.78E Depth 10km Sun Dec 26 00:58:50 2004 UTC > >> >> > >> >> Time: Universal Time (UTC) Sun Dec 26 00:58:50 2004 > >> >> Time Near Epicenter Sun Dec 26 06:58:50 2004 > >> >> Eastern Standard Time (EST) Sat Dec 25 19:58:50 2004 > >> >> Central Standard Time (CST) Sat Dec 25 18:58:50 2004 > >> >> Mountain Standard Time (MST) Sat Dec 25 17:58:50 2004 > >> >> Pacific Standard Time (PST) Sat Dec 25 16:58:50 2004 > >> >> Alaska Standard Time (AST) Sat Dec 25 15:58:50 2004 > >> >> Hawaii Standard Time (HST) Sat Dec 25 14:58:50 2004 > >> >> > >> >> Location with respect to nearby cities: > >> >> 250 km (155 miles) SSE of Banda Aceh, Sumatra, Indonesia > >> >> 320 km (200 miles) W of Medan, Sumatra, Indonesia > >> >> 1260 km (780 miles) SSW of BANGKOK, Thailand > >> >> 1605 km (1000 miles) NW of JAKARTA, Java, Indonesia > >> >> > >> >> For maps, additional information, and subsequent updates, > >> >> please consult: > >> >> http://earthquake.usgs.gov/recenteqsww/Quakes/usslav.htm . > >> >> > >> >> Flinn-Engdahl Region Number = 705 > >> >> > >> >> For the most significant earthquakes, information may also be > >> >> available from the USGS Earthquake Hazards Program home page at > >> >> http://earthquake.usgs.gov/ and the USGS home page at > >> >> http://www.usgs.gov/ . > >> >> > >> >> You will continue to receive messages like this when > >> >> earthquakes occur that have magnitude 5.5 or greater > >> >> anywhere in the world OR 4.5 or greater in the contiguous > >> >> US, Hawaii, and Alaska (excluding the Aleutian Islands). > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> U.S. Geological Survey -- Science for a Changing World > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> You are receiving this message through the bigquake mailing > >> list. To > >> >> , > >> >> go to > >> http://earthquake.usgs.gov/products/neic_data_services.html or send > >> >> mail to bigquake- > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Sally Spencer > >> > Enlightened Living Services > >> > http://www.Devi3.byregion.net > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Sally Spencer > >> > Enlightened Living Services > >> > http://www.Devi3.byregion.net > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2004 Report Share Posted December 26, 2004 Ok, thanks. I thought with this severity, eighth house would be involved.. But the nodes being involved can be drastic, and with weak natal indicators.. Sally SIHA wrote: Hello Ms Sally, Sixth house lord can always possibily be included as an afflicting planet. Best wishes, - "Sally Spencer" <sally234 <SAMVA > Monday, December 27, 2004 8:49 AM Professor.. Earthquake in Sumatra Professor, Could sixth house also be included in the significator list for earthquakes. Is it because it's an earth sign as well as difficulties? Sally In the Indonesia chart, Ketu hits the sixth house mep by 6 degrees, 6L aspect on the fourth. That's two hits around the sixth house, I suppose it is involved rather than the eighth. Seems like this devastation would be eighth house... maybe because the quake was elsewhere and the water was the cause. I suppose your point on the strange influence of Rahu on Venus is why the effect is roundabout.. It seems the Thailand chart is also sixth house afflicted now too. Maybe there is something to devastation and the sixth house. Thanks. Sally Sally Spencer wrote: Yes John, I believe the shake up was in the twelfth house, people's psyche or unconscious.. Sally John TWB wrote: Right you are Sally about the effective outcome of the Sumatra quakes. The Indonesian archipelago is regularly hammered this way by mother nature, but it's usually well offshore leaving most of us inhabitants down here, those of us on the high and dry, quite safe. John Sally Spencer <sally234 wrote: Hi Jorge, I am blind, when it comes to charts these days.. I thought Rahu fifth aspected Jupiter... And by the way earthquakes are eighth house at least in SA.. But I'm guessing the 6L aspect on fourth was the cause..it's a natal trigger as you pointed out. TSun was afflicting the TMoon as fourth house significator... TSun was afflicting natal Rahu as well. Apparently for the most part it shook people up , only two houses were reported damaged as of today.. Thanks. Sally Sixth house The sixth house rules public amity, relations with neighbors, general health of the public, political stability, political opposition, financial solvency of the nation, litigations, judicial functioning, communal harmony in the country and labour relations. Financial strength / Tax Departments etc Jorge Angelino wrote: > Dear Sally, > > > > Thanks for the e-mail. > > > > Indonesia is a very peculiar country in that natal Venus is placed in > the mid-point of Rahu and FM Saturn, Saturn afflicts closely MEPs 10, > 12, 4 and 7, and the FM Sun, being in extreme infancy, afflicts > exactly MEPs 11 and 5. > > > > Besides this, a close look to the Navamsha chart is also very > important to get the feeling of the chart. In Navamsha, the lagna is > vargottama but 6 planets are placed in dusthanas: Jupiter, Rahu, Sun, > Venus, Ketu and Mars. Jupiter, L4, is afflicted by Rahu, Ketu, Mars > and Saturn. Venus, L2, is afflicted by the Sun and Ketu. Being > vargottama, it means that the FMPs in Rashi are also FMPs in Navamsha, > which gives them a strong malefic nature. > > > > Let us look to the Rashi, Navamsha and Transit charts for this event: > > > > > > Indonesia is in Mo/Ju/Ve. The natal Moon, being debilitated in Rashi > and afflicted by Rahu and the Sun in Navamsha, is beginning to become > afflicted by transit MMP Mars. In transit, the Moon is debilitated in > Navamsha and closely afflicted by Mars and Ketu. Natal Jupiter, L4, > being weak in Rashi and strongly afflicted in Navamsha, is exactly > afflicted by the 8th aspect of transit Rahu from the 8th house > (non-SA) and closely afflicted by the 3rd aspect of transit Saturn. > Transit Jupiter is closely afflicted by the 75% 4th aspect of natal > Saturn and exactly afflicted by the 50% aspect 5th aspect of natal > Mars (non-SA). Natal Venus is under the multiple malefic influences of > Rahu, Ketu and Saturn. Transit Venus is closely afflicted by the 8th > aspect of natal Rahu (non-SA) and widely afflicted by natal Mars. > > > > Transit Saturn, L6 (earthquakes) is closely afflicting MEPs 12, 4 and 7. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Jorge > > > > > > > Sally Spencer [sally234] > domingo, 26 de Dezembro de 2004 03:08 > SAMVA > Re: For Jorge;) Earthquake in Sumatra > > > > TRahu in 8H aspecting within two degrees of natal Jupiter in first- > fourth lord in Indonesia chart. > > Best wishes, > Sally > > Sally Spencer wrote: > >> >> >> 2004/12/26 00:58 M 8.5 OFF W COAST OF NORTHERN SUMATRA Z= 10km >> 3.30N 95.78E >> >> This information is provided by the USGS >> National Earthquake Information Center. >> (Address problems to: se >> ) >> >> These parameters are preliminary and subject to revision. >> >> A magnitude 8.5 earthquake OFF THE W COAST OF NORTHERN SUMATRA has >> occurred at: >> 3.30N 95.78E Depth 10km Sun Dec 26 00:58:50 2004 UTC >> >> Time: Universal Time (UTC) Sun Dec 26 00:58:50 2004 >> Time Near Epicenter Sun Dec 26 06:58:50 2004 >> Eastern Standard Time (EST) Sat Dec 25 19:58:50 2004 >> Central Standard Time (CST) Sat Dec 25 18:58:50 2004 >> Mountain Standard Time (MST) Sat Dec 25 17:58:50 2004 >> Pacific Standard Time (PST) Sat Dec 25 16:58:50 2004 >> Alaska Standard Time (AST) Sat Dec 25 15:58:50 2004 >> Hawaii Standard Time (HST) Sat Dec 25 14:58:50 2004 >> >> Location with respect to nearby cities: >> 250 km (155 miles) SSE of Banda Aceh, Sumatra, Indonesia >> 320 km (200 miles) W of Medan, Sumatra, Indonesia >> 1260 km (780 miles) SSW of BANGKOK, Thailand >> 1605 km (1000 miles) NW of JAKARTA, Java, Indonesia >> >> For maps, additional information, and subsequent updates, >> please consult: >> http://earthquake.usgs.gov/recenteqsww/Quakes/usslav.htm . >> >> Flinn-Engdahl Region Number = 705 >> >> For the most significant earthquakes, information may also be >> available from the USGS Earthquake Hazards Program home page at >> http://earthquake.usgs.gov/ and the USGS home page at >> http://www.usgs.gov/ . >> >> You will continue to receive messages like this when >> earthquakes occur that have magnitude 5.5 or greater >> anywhere in the world OR 4.5 or greater in the contiguous >> US, Hawaii, and Alaska (excluding the Aleutian Islands). >> >> >> U.S. Geological Survey -- Science for a Changing World >> >> >> -- >> You are receiving this message through the bigquake mailing list. To >> , >> go to http://earthquake.usgs.gov/products/neic_data_services.html or send >> mail to bigquake- >> >> > > > -- > Sally Spencer > Enlightened Living Services > http://www.Devi3.byregion.net > > > > > > -- > Sally Spencer > Enlightened Living Services > http://www.Devi3.byregion.net > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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