David Hawthorne Inauguration of George W. Bush

October 20, 2004

Mr. David Hawthrone,

WOuld like to hear ur comments on the following post:

" sambahri007 " <sambahri007>

Sun Oct 17, 2004 2:47 am

Saturn ® in Gemini for Prez. Bush

Dear List Members and Mr. David Hawthorne,

What can one say about Saturn going Retrogade right after elections

in Nov. 2004 (around Nov. 9th/10th) and then entering Gemini (12th

house of Losses for Cancer Ascdts. like Prez. Bush) in mid-Jan. 2005

(15th/16th) before inaugration (on 19th/20th)? Any impact of these on

elections on Nov.2nd?? Like to hear comments from members and you.

SAM

Thanks, SAM

SAMVA , " David Hawthorne " <david@i...> wrote:

> Dear Friends:

>

> As just pointed out in his email on the Fate of

Congress Govt. (India), the time of the oath ceremony can be used to

evaluate the political situation.

>

> As such, let us look to the chart for the inauguration of George W.

Bush, on Jan. 20, 2001, at 12:02 p.m. in Washington, DC, (TZ5,

77W02:12, 38N53:42; DST 0; Aries 20:46 degrees), which clearly shows

the events occuring during this administration.

>

> For example, the severe afflictions of Rahu and Ketu in the chart

indicate financial problems, war, attacks, explosions, etc..

>

> The operating planet on Sept. 11, 2001, was Rahu, which closely

afflicts Mars, ruling the chart, indicating unexpected attack.

>

> The operating planet from March 2002 until July 2004, was Jupiter,

whose ninth house MT sign is closely afflicted by Ketu, indicating

war.

>

> Moreover, Moon, ruling the fourth ruler of domestic peace and

prosperity, is badly placed in the eighth house in its debilitation

sign, indicating civil unrest and problems with the economy.

>

> Currently and at the time of the election, the operating planet is

Saturn.

>

> Saturn, in the natal chart is utterly weak at 00:12 degrees, and

its MT sign is closely afflicted by Rahu.

>

> By transit on election, Saturn is somewhate weak at 03:23 degrees,

while its natal position is under the aspect of the sixth ruler,

Mercury, operating out of the eighth house.

>

> By transit, Venus, ruling relationships, is debilitated, Jupiter,

ruling good fortune, is in the sixth house of enemies, and Mercury,

ruling the sixth house, is badly placed in the eighth house.

>

> It appears the administration may have some difficulty with

continuation.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> David Hawthorne, M.S., J.B.

> President, IIPA

> http://www.iipa.net

October 20, 2004

Dear Sam:

Thanks for your email.

While retrograde, Saturn remains weak in either infant state or old age.

Weak planets cannot protect their general and particular significations.

Saturn, for President Bush, is a functional malefic, but it will not be transiting his most effective point.

In fact, retrograde Saturn will pull away from his natal Saturn, which may give him some relief from the current obstructions and disappointments.

Best wishes, David Hawthorne, M.S., J.B.President, IIPAhttp://www.iipa.net

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sambahri007

SAMVA

Wednesday, October 20, 2004 11:14 AM

Re: David Hawthorne>>>Inauguration of George W. Bush

Mr. David Hawthrone, WOuld like to hear ur comments on the following post: "sambahri007" <sambahri007> Sun Oct 17, 2004 2:47 am Saturn ® in Gemini for Prez. BushDear List Members and Mr. David Hawthorne,What can one say about Saturn going Retrogade right after electionsin Nov. 2004 (around Nov. 9th/10th) and then entering Gemini (12th house of Losses for Cancer Ascdts. like Prez. Bush) in mid-Jan. 2005 (15th/16th) before inaugration (on 19th/20th)? Any impact of these on elections on Nov.2nd?? Like to hear comments from members and you.SAMThanks, SAM SAMVA , "David Hawthorne" <david@i...> wrote:> Dear Friends:> > As just pointed out in his email on the Fate of Congress Govt. (India), the time of the oath ceremony can be used to evaluate the political situation.> > As such, let us look to the chart for the inauguration of George W. Bush, on Jan. 20, 2001, at 12:02 p.m. in Washington, DC, (TZ5, 77W02:12, 38N53:42; DST 0; Aries 20:46 degrees), which clearly shows the events occuring during this administration.> > For example, the severe afflictions of Rahu and Ketu in the chart indicate financial problems, war, attacks, explosions, etc..> > The operating planet on Sept. 11, 2001, was Rahu, which closely afflicts Mars, ruling the chart, indicating unexpected attack.> > The operating planet from March 2002 until July 2004, was Jupiter, whose ninth house MT sign is closely afflicted by Ketu, indicating war.> > Moreover, Moon, ruling the fourth ruler of domestic peace and prosperity, is badly placed in the eighth house in its debilitation sign, indicating civil unrest and problems with the economy.> > Currently and at the time of the election, the operating planet is Saturn.> > Saturn, in the natal chart is utterly weak at 00:12 degrees, and its MT sign is closely afflicted by Rahu.> > By transit on election, Saturn is somewhate weak at 03:23 degrees, while its natal position is under the aspect of the sixth ruler, Mercury, operating out of the eighth house.> > By transit, Venus, ruling relationships, is debilitated, Jupiter, ruling good fortune, is in the sixth house of enemies, and Mercury, ruling the sixth house, is badly placed in the eighth house.> > It appears the administration may have some difficulty with continuation.> > Best wishes, > > David Hawthorne, M.S., J.B.> President, IIPA> http://www.iipa.net