exchange of exalted sign- Rafal Ji and other learned members

Posted October 3, 2007 · October 3, 2007

Respected Rafal Ji and other learned members,

Should it be considered as a planetary relation if two planets are in their

mutual exaltation house. For example, Venus in Libra and Saturn in Pi.

Thank you

With personal regards

Pranam

Saumya

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Posted October 3, 2007 · October 3, 2007

OHM NAMO NAARAAYENAAYE

Pranams Saumya,

That what you propose seams to bear some logic in it.

So in this way you propose it to reveal something in the horoscope, but no, I

must tell you something: It is knowledge from the sages.

The basic principle behind Parivartha, is exchange of Planets between Rasis in

which they are placed.

At first there is a connection established between a Planet in the Rasi, and the

Lord of the Rasi in which the Planet is placed.

The Planets start to cooperate. This relationship can be extended or is

transmitted.

This is a Sambhandana, between two Planets, and it is becomming usefull in

expression during the period of the Planets in their Dasas when a Sambandhana is

repeated in/on a different place, for example in a different Rasi.

This happens when planet a is posited in Rasi 2 , and the Lord of Rasi 2 is

placed in the Rasi of Planet a

This is a real Sambandhana and it exists in Jyotish.

Another thing is thesources of Strength.

One of the Strengths of a Planet is exaltation.Exaltation is a source of

strength obtained by a Planet when it is placed in a certain Rasi.

Still stronger expressed:

Exaltation is a source of strength obtained by a Planet by being placed in a

certain degree of a certain Rasi. Not the whole of the Rasi gives the same

strength to the Planet in objective.

Job

vedic astrology: saumya: Wed, 3 Oct

2007 11:01:58 -0700[vedic astrology] exchange of exalted sign- Rafal Ji

and other learned members

Respected Rafal Ji and other learned members,Should it be considered as a

planetary relation if two planets are in their mutual exaltation house. For

example, Venus in Libra and Saturn in Pi. Thank you With personal

regardsPranamSaumyaSaumya Ray ChaudhuriIMTECH,Sector 39A,

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Posted October 11, 2007 · October 11, 2007

Dear Job, Namaskar,

I enjoyed your very concise note. The last part is not clear to me.

Are you suggesting that Venus in Libra and Saturn in Pisces which are

basically their mutal exaltation sign will trasduce energy or strength during

their dasa (Sa-Ve or Ve-Sa).

I appreciate if you clear my vision.

Thank you

Best

Saumya

job rodenburg <rodenburgjob wrote:

OHM NAMO NAARAAYENAAYE

Pranams Saumya,

That what you propose seams to bear some logic in it.

So in this way you propose it to reveal something in the horoscope, but no, I

must tell you something: It is knowledge from the sages.

The basic principle behind Parivartha, is exchange of Planets between Rasis in

which they are placed.

At first there is a connection established between a Planet in the Rasi, and the

Lord of the Rasi in which the Planet is placed.

The Planets start to cooperate. This relationship can be extended or is

transmitted.

This is a Sambhandana, between two Planets, and it is becomming usefull in

expression during the period of the Planets in their Dasas when a Sambandhana is

repeated in/on a different place, for example in a different Rasi.

This happens when planet a is posited in Rasi 2 , and the Lord of Rasi 2 is

placed in the Rasi of Planet a

This is a real Sambandhana and it exists in Jyotish.

Another thing is thesources of Strength.

One of the Strengths of a Planet is exaltation.Exaltation is a source of

strength obtained by a Planet when it is placed in a certain Rasi.

Still stronger expressed:

Exaltation is a source of strength obtained by a Planet by being placed in a

certain degree of a certain Rasi. Not the whole of the Rasi gives the same

strength to the Planet in objective.

Job

vedic astrology: saumya: Wed, 3 Oct

2007 11:01:58 -0700[vedic astrology] exchange of exalted sign- Rafal Ji

and other learned members

Respected Rafal Ji and other learned members,Should it be considered as a

planetary relation if two planets are in their mutual exaltation house. For

example, Venus in Libra and Saturn in Pi. Thank you With personal

regardsPranamSaumyaSaumya Ray ChaudhuriIMTECH,Sector 39A,

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Posted October 11, 2007 · October 11, 2007

Dear Saumya,

I hope to supply you with a satisfactory reply about the role that Saturn and

Venus have to play.

When Venus is placed in Libra; it means that Venus is in its own Sign (House).

Hereby Venus gets strength by being in its own Rasi (House)

This strengthens the Karakatwa of Venus; beauty, vehicles, spouse etc

This also strengthens the properties of the House in which Venus is placed. (in

this case I don’t know the House because I don’t know where Lagna is placed)

Also the other House which is owned by Venus is strengthened.

When Saturn is placed in Pisces; it means that Saturn is in a Sign belonging to

Jupiter.

Jupiter is a neutral Planet towards Saturn, so Saturn is not “badly” placed; in

fact Saturn in a Sign of Jupiter is OK.

This also means that when Jupiter (he is called the Depositor of Saturn), when

Jupiter is strongly placed, Jupiter gives its strength unto Saturn. (This is a

rule for all Planets in Houses/Signs).

So now something is said about Venus and Saturn in relationship with the Sign in

which they are placed.

More can be said; and that is the place which the Planets occupy towards each

other.

Venus is in Libra and Saturn is in Pisces. Pisces is the 6th Sign from Libra and

Libra is the 8th Sign from Pisces. This relationship is 6/8 which is a bad

relationship. It shows that the outcome of the Karakatwa properties of Venus and

Saturn work against each other. They don’t support each other.

Next; There is a rule in the Dasa of Planets.

This rule is an exception and it tells: The Dasa and Antara Dasa of Venus and

Saturn will show opposite results. When these two Planets are badly placed, they

will show beneficial results. And when they are good placed they will show bad

results.

One among the good and bad placements of the Planets is the relationship towards

each other. (generally 6/8 and 2/12 will not show to give supportive effects,

but with Venus and Saturn in eachothers Dasa this will give good effects)

As an example the Stotra tells that a king, with well placed Saturn and Venus,

will become a pauper in the Dasa/Antaradasa of Saturn and Venus and a poor man

with badly placed Venus and Saturn will become rich, in the Dasa/Antaradasa

Dasas of Venus and Saturn.

This may be an answer to your question.

Job

vedic astrology: saumya: Thu, 11 Oct

2007 08:52:40 -0700RE: [vedic astrology] exchange of exalted sign-

Rafal Ji and other learned members

Dear Job, Namaskar,I enjoyed your very concise note. The last part is not clear

to me. Are you suggesting that Venus in Libra and Saturn in Pisces which are

basically their mutal exaltation sign will trasduce energy or strength during

their dasa (Sa-Ve or Ve-Sa). I appreciate if you clear my vision.Thank you Best

Saumyajob rodenburg <rodenburgjob wrote:OHM NAMO

NAARAAYENAAYEPranams Saumya,That what you propose seams to bear some logic in

it.So in this way you propose it to reveal something in the horoscope, but no, I

must tell you something: It is knowledge from the sages.The basic principle

behind Parivartha, is exchange of Planets between Rasis in which they are

placed. At first there is a connection established between a Planet in the Rasi,

and the Lord of the Rasi in which the Planet is placed.The Planets start to

cooperate. This relationship can be extended or is transmitted.This is a

Sambhandana, between two Planets, and it is becomming usefull in expression

during the period of the Planets in their Dasas when a Sambandhana is repeated

in/on a different place, for example in a different Rasi.This happens when

planet a is posited in Rasi 2 , and the Lord of Rasi 2 is placed in the Rasi of

Planet aThis is a real Sambandhana and it exists in Jyotish. Another thing is

thesources of Strength.One of the Strengths of a Planet is exaltation.Exaltation

is a source of strength obtained by a Planet when it is placed in a certain

Rasi.Still stronger expressed:Exaltation is a source of strength obtained by a

Planet by being placed in a certain degree of a certain Rasi. Not the whole of

the Rasi gives the same strength to the Planet in objective.JobTo:

vedic astrology: saumya: Wed, 3 Oct 2007

11:01:58 -0700[vedic astrology] exchange of exalted sign- Rafal Ji and

other learned membersRespected Rafal Ji and other learned members,Should it be

considered as a planetary relation if two planets are in their mutual exaltation

house. For example, Venus in Libra and Saturn in Pi. Thank you With personal

regardsPranamSaumyaSaumya Ray ChaudhuriIMTECH,Sector 39A,

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Posted October 12, 2007 · October 12, 2007

*hare rama krsna*

Dear Saumya, Namaskar

Venus in Libra and Saturn in Pi are not in parivartana-yoga.

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

SJC Jyotish Guru;

email: rafal

Articles & Consultations: http://rohinaa.com

>

> Dear Job, Namaskar,

> I enjoyed your very concise note. The last part is not clear to me.

>

> Are you suggesting that Venus in Libra and Saturn in Pisces which are

> basically their mutal exaltation sign will trasduce energy or strength

> during their dasa (Sa-Ve or Ve-Sa).

>

> I appreciate if you clear my vision.

>

> Thank you

> Best

> Saumya

> job rodenburg <rodenburgjob

> <rodenburgjob%40hotmail.com>> wrote:

>

> OHM NAMO NAARAAYENAAYE

>

> Pranams Saumya,

>

> That what you propose seams to bear some logic in it.

> So in this way you propose it to reveal something in the horoscope,

> but no, I must tell you something: It is knowledge from the sages.

>

> The basic principle behind Parivartha, is exchange of Planets between

> Rasis in which they are placed.

> At first there is a connection established between a Planet in the

> Rasi, and the Lord of the Rasi in which the Planet is placed.

> The Planets start to cooperate. This relationship can be extended or

> is transmitted.

> This is a Sambhandana, between two Planets, and it is becomming

> usefull in expression during the period of the Planets in their Dasas

> when a Sambandhana is repeated in/on a different place, for example in

> a different Rasi.

>

> This happens when planet a is posited in Rasi 2 , and the Lord of Rasi

> 2 is placed in the Rasi of Planet a

> This is a real Sambandhana and it exists in Jyotish.

>

> Another thing is thesources of Strength.

> One of the Strengths of a Planet is exaltation.Exaltation is a source

> of strength obtained by a Planet when it is placed in a certain Rasi.

> Still stronger expressed:

> Exaltation is a source of strength obtained by a Planet by being

> placed in a certain degree of a certain Rasi. Not the whole of the

> Rasi gives the same strength to the Planet in objective.

>

> Job

>

> vedic astrology

> <vedic astrology%40From>:

> saumya <saumya%40rocketmail.comDate>: Wed, 3

> Oct 2007 11:01:58 -0700[vedic astrology] exchange of exalted

> sign- Rafal Ji and other learned members

>

> Respected Rafal Ji and other learned members,Should it be considered

> as a planetary relation if two planets are in their mutual exaltation

> house. For example, Venus in Libra and Saturn in Pi. Thank you With

> personal regardsPranamSaumyaSaumya Ray ChaudhuriIMTECH,Sector 39A,

> Chandigarh-16003609417727654Catch up

> on fall's hot new shows on TV. Watch previews, get listings,

> and more!

Posted October 15, 2007 · October 15, 2007

Dear Job

that was an enlightening and interesting post - esp the last couple of

paras!

thank you

Su

vedic astrology , job rodenburg

<rodenburgjob wrote:

>

> Dear Saumya,

>

> I hope to supply you with a satisfactory reply about the role that

Saturn and Venus have to play.

>

> When Venus is placed in Libra; it means that Venus is in its own

Sign (House).

> Hereby Venus gets strength by being in its own Rasi (House)

> This strengthens the Karakatwa of Venus; beauty, vehicles, spouse etc

> This also strengthens the properties of the House in which Venus is

placed. (in this case I don't know the House because I don't know

where Lagna is placed) Also the other House which is owned by Venus is

strengthened.

>

> When Saturn is placed in Pisces; it means that Saturn is in a Sign

belonging to Jupiter.

> Jupiter is a neutral Planet towards Saturn, so Saturn is not " badly "

placed; in fact Saturn in a Sign of Jupiter is OK.

> This also means that when Jupiter (he is called the Depositor of

Saturn), when Jupiter is strongly placed, Jupiter gives its strength

unto Saturn. (This is a rule for all Planets in Houses/Signs).

>

> So now something is said about Venus and Saturn in relationship with

the Sign in which they are placed.

>

> More can be said; and that is the place which the Planets occupy

towards each other.

> Venus is in Libra and Saturn is in Pisces. Pisces is the 6th Sign

from Libra and Libra is the 8th Sign from Pisces. This relationship is

6/8 which is a bad relationship. It shows that the outcome of the

Karakatwa properties of Venus and Saturn work against each other. They

don't support each other.

>

> Next; There is a rule in the Dasa of Planets.

> This rule is an exception and it tells: The Dasa and Antara Dasa of

Venus and Saturn will show opposite results. When these two Planets

are badly placed, they will show beneficial results. And when they are

good placed they will show bad results.

> One among the good and bad placements of the Planets is the

relationship towards each other. (generally 6/8 and 2/12 will not show

to give supportive effects, but with Venus and Saturn in eachothers

Dasa this will give good effects)

>

> As an example the Stotra tells that a king, with well placed Saturn

and Venus, will become a pauper in the Dasa/Antaradasa of Saturn and

Venus and a poor man with badly placed Venus and Saturn will become

rich, in the Dasa/Antaradasa Dasas of Venus and Saturn.

>

> This may be an answer to your question.

>

> Job

>

> vedic astrology: saumya: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 08:52:40

-0700RE: [vedic astrology] exchange of exalted sign- Rafal Ji

and other learned members

>

> Dear Job, Namaskar,I enjoyed your very concise note. The last part

is not clear to me. Are you suggesting that Venus in Libra and Saturn

in Pisces which are basically their mutal exaltation sign will

trasduce energy or strength during their dasa (Sa-Ve or Ve-Sa). I

appreciate if you clear my vision.Thank you Best Saumyajob rodenburg

<rodenburgjob wrote:OHM NAMO NAARAAYENAAYEPranams Saumya,That

what you propose seams to bear some logic in it.So in this way you

propose it to reveal something in the horoscope, but no, I must tell

you something: It is knowledge from the sages.The basic principle

behind Parivartha, is exchange of Planets between Rasis in which they

are placed. At first there is a connection established between a

Planet in the Rasi, and the Lord of the Rasi in which the Planet is

placed.The Planets start to cooperate. This relationship can be

extended or is transmitted.This is a Sambhandana, between two Planets,

and it is becomming usefull in expression during the period of the

Planets in their Dasas when a Sambandhana is repeated in/on a

different place, for example in a different Rasi.This happens when

planet a is posited in Rasi 2 , and the Lord of Rasi 2 is placed in

the Rasi of Planet aThis is a real Sambandhana and it exists in

Jyotish. Another thing is thesources of Strength.One of the Strengths

of a Planet is exaltation.Exaltation is a source of strength obtained

by a Planet when it is placed in a certain Rasi.Still stronger

expressed:Exaltation is a source of strength obtained by a Planet by

being placed in a certain degree of a certain Rasi. Not the whole of

the Rasi gives the same strength to the Planet in objective.JobTo:

vedic astrology: saumya: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 11:01:58

-0700[vedic astrology] exchange of exalted sign- Rafal Ji and

other learned membersRespected Rafal Ji and other learned

members,Should it be considered as a planetary relation if two planets

are in their mutual exaltation house. For example, Venus in Libra and

Saturn in Pi. Thank you With personal regardsPranamSaumyaSaumya Ray

ChaudhuriIMTECH,Sector 39A,

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Posted October 15, 2007 · October 15, 2007

Dear Job, Namskar,

Wonderful. Few months back, I raised this issue of 6-8 relation of Sa-Ve in

this forum . I was told by one of my friend regarding Ve-Sa relationship, but he

couldn't give me the source of this rule.

Could you kindly let me/us know the source of this sloka.

Well, in my case Venus is in 5th house (Libra) and Sa is in 10th house (Pi).

Incidentally, both these planets are exalted in D9 in Pi and Li respev. Ju who

is Sa depositor is placed in 3rd house (Leo).

I am currently running Sa mahadasa, ven antardasa will be coming in next year.

Thank you again

With personal regards

Saumya

job rodenburg <rodenburgjob wrote:

Dear Saumya,

I hope to supply you with a satisfactory reply about the role that Saturn and

Venus have to play.

When Venus is placed in Libra; it means that Venus is in its own Sign (House).

Hereby Venus gets strength by being in its own Rasi (House)

This strengthens the Karakatwa of Venus; beauty, vehicles, spouse etc

This also strengthens the properties of the House in which Venus is placed. (in

this case I don’t know the House because I don’t know where Lagna is placed)

Also the other House which is owned by Venus is strengthened.

When Saturn is placed in Pisces; it means that Saturn is in a Sign belonging to

Jupiter.

Jupiter is a neutral Planet towards Saturn, so Saturn is not “badly” placed; in

fact Saturn in a Sign of Jupiter is OK.

This also means that when Jupiter (he is called the Depositor of Saturn), when

Jupiter is strongly placed, Jupiter gives its strength unto Saturn. (This is a

rule for all Planets in Houses/Signs).

So now something is said about Venus and Saturn in relationship with the Sign in

which they are placed.

More can be said; and that is the place which the Planets occupy towards each

other.

Venus is in Libra and Saturn is in Pisces. Pisces is the 6th Sign from Libra and

Libra is the 8th Sign from Pisces. This relationship is 6/8 which is a bad

relationship. It shows that the outcome of the Karakatwa properties of Venus and

Saturn work against each other. They don’t support each other.

Next; There is a rule in the Dasa of Planets.

This rule is an exception and it tells: The Dasa and Antara Dasa of Venus and

Saturn will show opposite results. When these two Planets are badly placed, they

will show beneficial results. And when they are good placed they will show bad

results.

One among the good and bad placements of the Planets is the relationship towards

each other. (generally 6/8 and 2/12 will not show to give supportive effects,

but with Venus and Saturn in eachothers Dasa this will give good effects)

As an example the Stotra tells that a king, with well placed Saturn and Venus,

will become a pauper in the Dasa/Antaradasa of Saturn and Venus and a poor man

with badly placed Venus and Saturn will become rich, in the Dasa/Antaradasa

Dasas of Venus and Saturn.

This may be an answer to your question.

Job

vedic astrology: saumya: Thu, 11 Oct

2007 08:52:40 -0700RE: [vedic astrology] exchange of exalted sign-

Rafal Ji and other learned members

Dear Job, Namaskar,I enjoyed your very concise note. The last part is not clear

to me. Are you suggesting that Venus in Libra and Saturn in Pisces which are

basically their mutal exaltation sign will trasduce energy or strength during

their dasa (Sa-Ve or Ve-Sa). I appreciate if you clear my vision.Thank you Best

Saumyajob rodenburg wrote:OHM NAMO NAARAAYENAAYEPranams Saumya,That what you

propose seams to bear some logic in it.So in this way you propose it to reveal

something in the horoscope, but no, I must tell you something: It is knowledge

from the sages.The basic principle behind Parivartha, is exchange of Planets

between Rasis in which they are placed. At first there is a connection

established between a Planet in the Rasi, and the Lord of the Rasi in which the

Planet is placed.The Planets start to cooperate. This relationship can be

extended or is transmitted.This is a Sambhandana, between two Planets, and it is

becomming usefull in expression during the period of

the Planets in their Dasas when a Sambandhana is repeated in/on a different

place, for example in a different Rasi.This happens when planet a is posited in

Rasi 2 , and the Lord of Rasi 2 is placed in the Rasi of Planet aThis is a real

Sambandhana and it exists in Jyotish. Another thing is thesources of

Strength.One of the Strengths of a Planet is exaltation.Exaltation is a source

of strength obtained by a Planet when it is placed in a certain Rasi.Still

stronger expressed:Exaltation is a source of strength obtained by a Planet by

being placed in a certain degree of a certain Rasi. Not the whole of the Rasi

gives the same strength to the Planet in objective.JobTo:

vedic astrology: saumya: Wed, 3 Oct 2007

11:01:58 -0700[vedic astrology] exchange of exalted sign- Rafal Ji and

other learned membersRespected Rafal Ji and other learned members,Should it be

considered as a planetary relation if two planets are in their mutual

exaltation house. For example, Venus in Libra and Saturn in Pi. Thank you With

personal regardsPranamSaumyaSaumya Ray ChaudhuriIMTECH,Sector 39A,

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Posted October 15, 2007 · October 15, 2007

Dear Job,

Sorry, I should have provided my birth detail in my previous mail. Ve is

afflicted with Ketu.

DOB 17.12.67, 4:59pm and Calcutta, India.

thank you again

With personal regards

Sincerely