How To Find the Birth Date and Birth Time using Prashna - Part 2

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Om Gurave Namah

 

Namaste Vijai Ji, Gurus and Learned Members,

 

Native had provided the known birth details as follows:-

 

This would be my attempt to write on " Nashta Jatakam " principles

taught by Sanjay Ji and Visti Ji to me. If my analysis is not correct,

then it would be my short coming in understanding their teachings to

me only and we should not conclude the teaching are in correct. In

this series this is my 2nd article and you can read the first article

at the following link :

 

vedic astrology/message/95964

 

In this case, the native pretty much know about the year, month and

date of his birth and time of birth is also known, but he wants the

confirmation on what is the actual birth time.

 

September 5, 1930

Time: 0:30:00

Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 81 E 51' 00 " , 25 N 27' 00 "

Allahabad, India

 

Today, I have decided to cast the Prashna Chart at the following time

to find the birth date and time of the native and taken as the Prashna

Chart for this analysis:-

 

September 4, 2007

Time: 6:02:35

Time Zone: 5:00:00 (West of GMT)

Place: 93 W 20' 59 " , 44 N 53' 23 "

Minnesota, USA

 

Prashna Navamsa Lagna is Mithuna and which is same as Native's Rasi

Lagna. Prashna Navamsa Lagna lord is Budha and who is placed in 4th

house of Kanya and aspecting the Lagna by Rashi Drishti in Natal Rasi.

So the question is genuine and desire to know the birth time is

accurate hence I am going forward.

 

Please bear in mind, the purpose of my writing on the " Nashta Jatakam "

principles are two fold. One is to assist the native to help find the

correct birth date and time.

 

Second purpose is to share the Prashna method principles with my

fellow Jyotish students. So I will do the analysis to find the birth

date and birth time and refine it to the possible Navamsa Lagna level

and then leave at that to this group to refine further to pin point

the birth time using the traditional vedic astrology principles.

 

As the native is sure about the Birth Date, so I have skipped the

following analysis, but when I do some other requests, we will cover

them also:-

 

1) Finding the Year of Birth using the Jup's placement

2) Finding the Aayana

3) Finding the Ritu/Season

4) Finding the Tithi/Nakshatra

 

5) Finding whether the birth was in the day or night:-

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Even though the native had confirmed that his birth was taken place

during the night time. I wanted to verify the principle which I have

learned.

 

Here the Prasna Rasi Lagna is Simha, which is a Day sign, so the birth

of the native must be during the night. So this is matching with what

the native's confirmed to us earlier. That is a good indication and we

will go forward now.

 

6) Finding, Native's Lagna:-

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The strongest among the Prashna Navamsa Lagna or its trines will

indicate the Native's Rasi Lagna. So in this case, Prashna Navamsa

Lagna is Mithuna and its lord Budha is placed in Kumbha. Lagna is

aspected Guru by graha and rasi drishti and also Surya is aspecting by

rasi dristi. Prashna Navamsa lagna's trines are Tula and Kumbha have

no planets and not stronger than Muthuna Lagna. Hence the Native's

Rasi Lagna has to be either Mithuna or Tula or Kumbha. As per the time

provided by the native, which is Mithuna so this confirms that the

native's Rasi Lagna is Mithuna.So what the native provided the birth

time is accurate at the Lagna level. So now let us go to the next level.

 

7) Finding, Native's Navamsa Lagna:-

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The principle what I have learned is : Native's Navamsa Lagna should

be in Quadrants ( 1, 4, 7 or 10) to Mandi, then only native is either

do not know the accurate birth time or lost his/her birth Chart.

 

With the provided birth time, the native's navamsa Lagna is in Dhanus

and Mandi is placed in Karka. So this indicates that the Native's

Navamsa lagna of Dhanus is not in quadrants to Mandi. So the possible

Navamsa lagna's are : Karka, or Vrischika or Meena.

 

Let us now fine tune the birth time keeping in mind that the Native's

Rasi lagna should be Mithuna. So in this Mithuna Rasi Lagna, can give

us the following Navamsa Lagna's only.

 

1) Vrischika : Time from : 0:05:33 AM to 0:19:54 AM

2) Meena : Time from : 1:04:06 AM to 1:19:07 AM

3) When we attempt to get to the Karka Navamsa lagna the Rasi Lagna

changes to Karka, so this cannot be correct.

 

So now we have narrowed it down to two possible Navamsa Lagnas and

they are : Vrischika and Meena. Now we need to select one Navamsa

Lagna between them.

 

Lack of time, I am not going forward to fine tune the birth time in

this Navamsa lagna and I would suggest my fellow Jyotish students to

take this and refine further to pin point the birth time by asking the

following questions to the

native's past life events:-

 

1) How many siblings the native have / had and then refine the birth

time with the D-3 Lagna.

2) Ask the marriage related ( I think he already provided some ) and

refine the birth time with D-9.2) Ask the educational background and

refine the birth time with D-27 Lagna.

3) Ask the job related ( I think he already provided some ) and refine

the birth time with D-10.

4) Please find the native's spiritual interests and pursuits and

refine the birth time using the D-20.

5) Choose some other relevant Varga's to refine further to arrive at

an accurate birth time.

 

Note : Please consider these observations : I am seeing Rahu as an

Atma Karaka and if you take this native's Navamsa lagna as Meena then

the Navamsa Lagna lord Guru is placed in 2nd house with Budha and

Chandra. If you take this native's Navamsa lagna as Vrischika then

the Navamsa Lagna has Shukra in it and its Navamsa lagna Lord Kuja is

placed in 3rd house.

 

Request Gurus and Learned members to correct me, if I am wrong. I will

continue with the one more request, which pretty much covers the rest

of the principles, when I find some more free time later.

 

Regards

Raghunatha Rao

http://www.Prashna-Astrology.com

 

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vedic astrology/message/95914

 

Name: vijai kapoor

Email: vijaikapoor2004

City, Zip: Allahabad/UP

Country: India

Random Number: 5

 

Question: I want to know the hour of my birth based on the following

events of my life My parents told me it was after midnight of Bhadrapad

month of 1930 probably 12.30AM of 5th Sept. the Indian calender would

be probably 4th sept- from sunrise to sunrise nextday.I lost my father

in 1936 July- I went for my foreign education in ug.1960 married on

22 nd Nov.1962 lost my elder brother in July1956,lost my elder son on

25thMarch 2005any further uuestions will be answered with profound

thanks.....Vijai kapoor birth place is: allahabad U.P

 

 

 

vedic astrology , Vijai Kapoor

<vijaikapoor2004 wrote:

 

Om Gurave Namah,

Respected Ragunathji, Permit me to take some time from your busy

schedule.I wrote that mail to you simply because my Ardhdev- hanumanji

directed me to write my notes I and my Guru will be too hapy to get

some time from you. Regards...

 

Vijai Kapoor