Guest guest Posted August 20, 2007 Report Share Posted August 20, 2007 Dear list: Shri Narayan Iyer requested me to rejoin and continue my services here immediately after banning Mr. Lalit. When I tried to rejoin, I saw that the shameless fellow had sneaked in with another ID. i thought that if I rejoin, it will cause more turmoil, and hence stayed away. I thought that at least by not reading the posts alleging something or other against me, I will gain peace of mind. But today some group members have sent me mails to say that another person Mr. Sushil Dikshit has also joined Mr. Lalit in his baseless allegations. I must refute it as I have already lost much due to this unsavoury episode. 1) Truth about Lalit's episode: He approached me for marital counselling; I had given ample points - I clearly said that there is possibility of marriage in the coming year, but he has to change his attitude for that to happen. I had clearly foreseen psychic disturbances in his life, and suggested remedy taking this into account. He asked for concession, I gave it thinking he probably cannot afford it (He even claimed that he does not have a credit card; but now he claims that he earns 75000 per month!) He kept on asking query after query far exceeding my consultation rates. Still I thought I will do my best to satisfy him; the exchange turned sour only because he was abusing my generosity by literally " stalking " my mail box, asking queries without any end, and on top of it accusing me of being " unprofessional " (because I refused to share my phone no. with him as I thought he is a mad man who will keep on calling me; many members say he has done that to them already flooding their mail boxes with spam mails and sending unsolicited SMSs). I being an astrologer knew his character and hence refused my phone no. This made him wild. Then he wanted to know how I predicted the event of psychic disturbance; I refused it on Prashna ethics of which most in this group will not be aware. NOT ALL KNOWLEDGE IS IN BOOKS..... MUCH IS STILL LEFT IN ORAL TRADITION. Even Shri. P.V.R. Narasimha Rao has personally written to me once to post on chara kaarakaas last year....in astrological subjects, much depends on interpretation as the real classics are shrouded in traditional usages. Donkeys who swear by printed versions will remain only donkeys and will be no match to the real horses handtrained by traditional instructions. He could not succeed in fooling me into revealing such traditional secrets by emotional blackmail. If he had requested humbly and as a student, I would have helped him. His attitude prevented me from sharing sensitive prashna techniques as I was sure that he will misuse it. He sent unnecessarily critical mails which prompted me to share that experience before this forum thinking that those well-versed in prashna ethics can put some wisdom into him. It is like a doctor bringing a medico-legal case to the medical council. There is no transgression of privacy or ethics in this though this fellow harps on this issue and makes people think that I have shared a private mail here. In fact, I have still not shared all his stupid mails here. I dare him to publish all the mails here so that he will get exposed and people will know how patient I was in handling his near " insane " and " incoherent " behaviour. (when I read the group posts today to prepare my reply, I found he is lying that he asked a single question! If he had asked a single question, I would have charged him only Rs.300! He asked many queries and sent repeated mails all of which were replied promptly by me to guide him. I even guided him regarding some ritual performance on a purely honorary basis. He is distoring facts repeatedly). 2) Mr. Sushil Dikshit - who has recently joined the Bandwagon with Mr. Lalith declaring " Panditji was using Fake IDs " ....How did he suddenly decide on this? What proof he has? nothing...yet he will say. But I have a proof that his saying that I do not give honorary readings is false. He himself is a recipient of one such honorary instruction. He had approached me for health reading of his father who is suffering from consumption. I quoted my charges. He did not even have the basic decency to either say " Panditji I am not able to afford it currently " , or something like that if he could not afford it. He kept quiet. Still, on humanatarian grounds I sent the remedy for that (from Soundarya Lahiri) clearly mentioning " economic considerations should not deprive you of my service and so I am sending the suggestion " . He did not even acknowledge it. I was wondering what was happening! Now, today when I try to rejoin the group, his poison mail is waiting for me in the group. He " confirms " Mr. Lalit's allegation as if he has proof, and he reinforces with further charges... Is charging persons for professional consultations a sin? Then how will I eat? Do I have kings as in days of old to give me honoraria to support me so that I can offer free services with my knowledge? The hard fact is that when I was learning astrology full-time and had no means of livelihood without a single paise earning, this government did not offer subsidy...now when I earn, I am paying taxes! That is the kind of support we astrologers get from Government today! Yet, if an astrologer charges, immediately those who cannot pay that will brand him as a fraud! Consultants of all fields can charge; but astrologers should not charge! what logic is this? Do these two persons want astrologers to beg on the street? An amateur astrologer with another profession to support has no moral right to criticizse a professional astrologer especially one like me who is adhering to a vedic pattern of life that has taken a heavy toll on me in my personal life. I have stood true to my principles refusing to change myself or compromise my principles. Which astrologer I have ever put down in this group? Even assuming Mohanraamji is a relative or friend of mine, how many astrologers here had trouble with him. Hardly 2 or 3! How thoughtless these people could be! THE TRUTH IS THAT I HAVE NO CONTROL OVER MOHANRAAMJI THOUGH HE MIGHT BE AN ADMIRER. WHAT IS MORE...I AM DEFINITELY NOT MOHANRAAAMJI. This is the truth. 3) They are saying that my business is here. IT IS FALSE. WITHOUT IMPLYING ANY DISRESPECT TO THIS GROUP LET ME ASSERT THIS.....This group does not have even 8000 members; but I am a Council Member in some forums where the membership is nearing 3 lakhs! Some honourable members of this group are members there also. They will know it. I am unable to contribute fully even to that recently due to my preoccupations. So, when I don't have the time to look after existing business interests, what is the need for me to try to " coax " and " find " business in a much smaller group? Use your common sense accusers before you lift that cursed forefingers which you use to point at anyone thoughtlessly! Another declaration I can make.....My total business from this group members in so many years I have been associated with Vedic Astrology group is just around fifty thousand which is much less than what Mr. Lalit earns per month. I have given more honorary consultations which si not business. I had no necessity to rub shoulders with amateur astrologers and students to improve my business. THEY ARE SIMPLY ALLEGING FALSEHOODS WITHOUT ANY BASIS. I a person who charges heftily for even one hour consultations have spent many hours here on a purely honorary basis just for sharing my knowledge to astro learners. I have quit the group. I have posted again only because I have a moral right to be here (I said that if Mr. Lalit is banned my option of coming back is open; he has been banned not once but twice!). I am not going to continue in this group because this group cannot function like before. I am deeply pained and I just do not have the motivation left to continue here. I have posted to make things clear. One small request to everyone....NEVER ALLEGE ANYTHING WITHOUT PROOF. Reputations are fragile. To tell the truth some members of this group who had actually wanted to consult me were so upset by these exchanges that they admitted to having developed doubts upon me. If the matter is true, I deserve it. But if it is false, can you undo the damage done to my reputation? It is another matter that majority of this group believes me and still respects me. But what about someone new and who just happens to browse those poisonous allegations? It is a life-long black mark for me you have awarded without the least proof and that too after my persistent denials of those allegations. Think of this. There is no need to ban Lalit anymore. It makes no sense. Such decent acts will work only upon decent people. He deserves a punishment from karmic forces which they will definitely give for the injustice and torture he has meted out to a honest man. Remember, he has been always saying he was " forced " to " expose " only because he was challenged...what does that mean? if I had not upset him, he would have been happy to let me continue even if I had exploited people. Now that I upset him, he will not rest till he destroys me completely even if I am honest and truthful. Such is the rowdy who has sneaked in here recently. It is below my level to enter into a fight with such an element. As one member rightly pointed out " I cannot run behind every barking dog! " Let the dog bark its fill and then whimper in its corner. After all it is a street dog and not a pedigree breed, and the dog van will one day come for it and neuter it! My blessings to the good members of this group. Blessed be. Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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