Guest guest Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 Dear Raman, I will explain it to you bit by bit and w'd confirm it with my experience, first let me ask mother's permission to make sure i m not transgressing my limits... , ok it's there, i will tell u within my capacity. 1. Millions and millions of Vishnu, Shiva and Brahma : Means to not to become conservative in ur religious beliefs, not to become narrow minded that divine is limited to it's one name or one characteristic, take it this way, u know ur Visnu, but there is another Vishnu for other being from a different place, culture, community,world, galaxy etc. So, dont let down other's religion, dont kill them if they call the God with differnt name, this message should to be given to islamic scholars to end religion sponsored terrorism. 2. Above all the Rama Naama, now, as u understand that every individual has same connection with God same as u do have, have same respect to every name of the God. but u discover ur's spirituality with ur name, ur own way.. Here i will try to make it more clear, sometimes giving emphasis on one name by Saints creates confusion for the followrs and they begin stating superiority of the name that they know or use to pray, If u know, Swami PrabhuPaad, he founded Iskon, he stated above all there is Prahu Krishna, Krishna is the supreme God. What he was saying is there is one Supreme God, whom he knows as Lord Krishna, This name for him is of supreme importance, mind it, while stating this, he w'd be undergoing the process of founding his faith, So, he w'd said this to himself, Ok, Later on, followers w'd start taking it's lexical meaning, rather trying to understand what was his intension and why he said it, One of such follower one's fallen in a discussion with me trying to say some other name take it " Shiva " is lower than " Krishna " . this sort of dogma has created havoc in the history. So, it should be made clear vey carefully. 3. World is so large , so complext is, it's management and ur existnce is so small ur intellect is so less, never be Egoist, never be clever and never be greedy coz supreme intellect is there before and there so much in the world to give you to bless u with, u even dont imagine what God can offer to you, so u be deserving, be fair etc. 4. You asked - " Can we knwn about all universe by any spirtual way " , I w'd say yes it is, in fact it's so easy, it's easy like typing a mail and posting to the group or switching on the fan or bulb. First take examples from the scriptures , In the mahabharata, there is astory, once maa yashoda made kid krishnaa's mouth open and saw whole univese within kids mouth, other story is , upon the request of Arjuna, lord Krishna shown him his Viraat (large like universe) form or rup. Now, take it this way, who is Krishna, Krishna is a frightened man, who has no will power to even fight a war, whose faith is shaken like you or me, but he is curious and approaches the God, God loves him and enables him to view the universal form (brahmaand) of lord itself. If it can happen to one Arjuna, it can happen to you or me also, what merit Arjuna has,certainly nothing better than you, still he got, you can also get it. Now how it happens, try to focus on ice particles, ice is solid, it has it's shape and mass, but when it melts down, it has no shape of it's own, it can flow to a larger area, i mean it expands itself, now when it evaporates then what happens, it expands larger area as in the gaseous stage it can cover up far more space.. same is we human being, our soul get's mixed with 5 elemnts and with ego, we get a solid shape of our personality, we are like ice particle only. basic instincts like - ego, greed and sex binds u in some identity, you have to dissolve it's intensity as much as possible. for what u have ego - ur knowledge , ur's achievements, ur's success etc.., compare urself with world leaders, and then look at universe, earth is such a small entity and u r such a small particle in the earth, what u have to put ego ? Sex, why u think always that u r a male and she is female, u r a soul and u have put on a body of male of female, it was ur's choice. biologically too, u have seen sex is a chnageable characteristic, spirituality too says same, i m forgtting about one King in some of the Puraans, who once entered into a jungle and converted to a woman, there she got married to a male and gave birth to kids, somehow he came out of jungle and got his male form... now, he understood the sex is not a constant properity. take some feminine hormones and u can see, female sex organs are developing in you. So, from the state of ice particles u have to melt down, how, there are various paths , one is mantra sadhnaa, i have realized this path , how, during the chant, when ur karma get's diluted, ur heart's impurities starts filtering and u feel strengthand liking for the truth, then u should understand, u r mantra is awakening you and after a period, u will see, u r no longer attached to ur existance, ur identity , ur personality, ur body etc, you will recognise the detachment, u will see, u r putting on the mentioned things, and then u w'd begin njoying the drama of the world... why a person does a cunningness and why other helps him in it.... etc. The sort of natural detachement to is very important, when u realize, u r not a person with a personality, ur desire for fame and respect is reduced... this detachement will return in attachement to others, coz u start thinking others are like me only, so u feel a sort of attachement or affection to one and all... now, when u realize it practically,ur conciousness starts getting connected to other's conciousness, u w'd have read that in some sages ashraam lion and man were living togather, how just of their conciousness. Now, God may bless u anytime and u will see, u r lively connected to God, u r dissolved to god and God is everywhere, God is in verything... see, it's a matter of realization, not a matter of reading it and preeching to others.. You will see, u r everywhere, coz u r within the God and God is omnipresent, next u will see, whole universe is within you. Even this stage is not ultimate, coz u though see, u r everywhere coz, u r within the God.. i mean u w'd still know ur different being but within the same God.., you will realize ur's as well as God's existance... , but u can see ur's expansion to Galaxies. Now what remains is, to see one's completely getting dissolved into God. This is a state of Samadhi... , in this stage, as u are dissolved into God, u will see, only one's existance is there in the world. Best Regards, Lalit. vedic astrology , Shindi <sinhazz wrote: > > Hi Rohit, > Lemme correct you on one point astronomically. > > Right now we are in Saggitarian dwarf galaxy.... which is going to merge with another bigger galaxy known as milky way...in 2012 AD. > > But this is just an astronomical information.. I dont know anything else. > > Amit > > > > Pram Chopra pramchopra1964 > vedic astrology > Sunday, August 12, 2007 1:51:02 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] Raman Sachdeva > > Dear Rohit > > God Bless U > > I am very glad that you are interested in those spiritual path I am Astro-Spiritual Master doing practice since 1984. The milky way of Galaxy is our Akash Ganga as we call it. yes we can know about other galaxies by spiritual practice. AS the time is not yet come to disclose the facts about it. The time do not allow it to. Millons of Vishnu means God have so many shapes that you can see almost in everything. Manupulations of things goes to Vishnu, innovations of creations goes to Brahama. distroyer of explosives goes to Shiva. > one galaxy means one solar system. But due to explosives time do not allow to know about other planets living beings. > > A Foresight Prince of India > Pram Chopra > > > rohit sood <rohit_sood76@ .co. in> > vedic astrology > Sunday, August 12, 2007 12:54:44 PM > [vedic astrology] Raman Sachdeva > > Dear Sir , > With due respect , I want to knw about my future my self Raman Sachdeva , Male DOB 22-11-76 Time 6.22 AM Place Ludhiana . > Can I get enlightment in ds birth ???????????? ????????? ???? > I have some question too , their are billions billions of planets , million galaxies out which we live n milky way galaxy .All this creations is made by Lord vishnu .Is their life in any of these galaxies .. Can we knwn about all universe by any spirtual way . > One more question , in Gurubani their is one line guru granth sahib that their are millions millions vishnu , same millions brahma , same shiv and the uper the most Ram naam which is the main craetive formationof all universe .I totally agree with all ds .But what is the meaning of millions millions vishnu , brahma and shiv . > Can you make some enlightment in all those questions . > Waiting , > Raman Sachdeva > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. Click here to know how. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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