Guest guest Posted August 11, 2007 Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 Very Interesting : All world knows his intensions, In our group, he offered 1 mukhi for 5 lakhs, wherreas in other group he w'd sell it for 3 lakhs.. This sort of spurious salesman are true enemy of Vedic Values, Coz such a man will use sacred text for befooling and looting ur money. There is another way of doing a business too, give ur's right introduction with ur real name, get sales tax no, income tax no, get ISI and other quality certificates, give gurantee and authenticity of the product and make a reasonable profit..., take ur responsibility. Who will call u bullshit if u r not doing wrong practise, but no, in India every bullshit will become a Pandit, Will exploit ur's faith and then create a terror in ur's heart, and will ask any price .. and if he knows there are some foreigners he will ask a price unbelievable. Well, read what's bellow, it gives u an insight of rudrakschhas - Lalit. ============================================================ It's pasted from sacred-objects <sacred-objects > Siddharth Mishra sidhmis wrote: Dear Pandit Arjun, For god sake pl dont misguide the menbers of this group with your stupid theories. Here no body wants your 1 Mukhis Rudrakshas for 2 or 3 Lakhs. Pl dont befool people for own your commercial interests. It is a simple logic that a four Mukhi has 4 chambers and four seeds similarly a 5 Mukhi has 5 seeds. There could be one odd exception where in the bead might have less seed. But for that exception we can not authentically comment on all Rudrakshas. Now pl dont ask me how many Rudrakshan I have cut, Respected Richard Sir, Pl ban this person from the group and his websit be blacklisted. He appears to be a spurious supplier of Rudrakshas whose main aim is to misguide people and sell his spurious 1 Mukhis. Lets have the positive people and knowledgeable people like you, Rajiv Krishna Dasa, Rudra Centre, Amit Uniyalji, etc. to guide the whole fraternity of Rudrakshas. Regards, Siddharth panditarjun2004 panditarjun2004 wrote: dear friend ole yes, i stick to my observation that in a four, five or six mukhi rudraksha the gap between the lines is wide and you find the number of locules or chambers or seeds within it. but when comes to higher mukh rudrakhsa like 13, 14 and above, you would fine few lines having good gap and few lines especially on both sides near the centre, have as little as no gap between them and hence you find thier inner chambers mixed and you also find less number of seeds. i dont cut a rudraksha as lord shiva dwells in it but have seen a couple of 14 and 13mukh beads when they got broken accidentally and then tested them. i am not a hyprocite to treat a rudraksha as god and then cut and test it like a commodity. i strictly believe a rudraksha as lord shiva and hence will not cut it to test it. even the gentleman who tested a 14mukh and found 14 loculi is laying emphasis on the word well developed and large sized which means all the small and medium sized rudraksha will not pass this test. most of the rudraksha of higher mukh are available in small and medium size and the largest beads are sold as collector beads at exorbitant prices as they are very rarely available. also when a rudraksha is plucked from the tree and is cleaned and a hole made, you would find several seeds falling off when the supplier makes the hole. very rarely you find a higher mukh rudraksha without a hole. so all i am saying is that there is no foolproof scientific test and system to measure the number of seeds of a rudraksha or the number of chambers inside the rudraksha matching the external lines. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun www.rudraksharemedy.com sacred-objects <sacred-objects%40 , Ole Alstrup alstrup@ wrote: Dear Pandit Arjun, Do I understand you correctly that there is no 13 or 14 Nepali mukhi beads in existence with the equivalent number of locules inside? How many beads have you tested? What method did you use? Thanking you, Ole panditarjun2004 panditarjun2004@ wrote: dear brother richard you are truly blessed to see the original round ek mukh rudraksha with your trusted late kalibaba. hope this answers to disbelievers who call it a myth. elementary truth is that one would find several mukhi rudraksha coming from the same tree. so if one finds only one line naturally developed in a round rudraksha bead, he must construe it as a one mukh rudraksha. i challenge openly with all those laboratary test hungry disbelievers to prove 14 locules in a 14mukh rudraksha and 13 locules in a 13mukh rudraksha. if they start mentioning exceptions and impossibilities, then they must not preach locules as a certain rule to decipher the number of lines external matching the number of locules within. the gods and sages have only advised to COUNT the number of lines ON the rudraksha and i follow only that method treating it as a holy divine product with the invisible god dwelling in it. hence rudraksha is a matter of solicitation and a holy object of faith. a person who has faith in the sacred object and in the person who provides that, buys it. a person not having faith does not buy it. it is as simple as it is. hence there is no need for us to have two groups of believers and disbelievers fighting each other to prove their theory is correct. after all, we are all having the same objective of serving the natives by providing them sacred objects and i advise all rudraksha fraternity to serve their customers in their own ways instead of criticising others in an internecine way. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun www.rudraksharemedy.com sacred-objects <sacred-objects%40 , " Richard Shaw-Brown " <rsbj66@ wrote: Dear All, It is amazing. If you want to see action in this group, then just question goal dhana Eka Mukhi. Late Kali Baba of Nepal had a genuine goal dhana eka mukhi. For certain. Seeing very closely is believing. And Kali Baba deserved Eka Mukhi. Actually Eka Mukhi is the ornament of Advaitavadins, tyagis, not Grihastas. I wouldn't wear an eka mukhi even if I had one. I would worship it as Lord Shiva. In my opinion Chaturdasha Mukhi is the ultimate for Grihastas. Y/s, Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2007 Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 Dear Mr. Lalitji, If we believe astrology, destiny, karma etc. (hope that is the reason why we all are here), then it is individual's destiny to be befooled by any tom dick and harry and pandits are not necessary to fool the persons. So, such discussion have no value in today's system, where there are n number of cases of deceiving and getting deceived all over the globe. So, india is no exception, particularly where people are more spiritual and god fearing. And, also, in my opinion wise men (i think you are) does not waste time in such unwanted and irrelevant matters (for this group) and instead concentrate on educating self and in turn educating and helping others. Hope this will be taken in a right spirit instead of stamping as a support to some persons or rebuttal to your message. Don't expect any more replies from me for any of your followup mails. With blessings, T. V. Rao +91 9879110682 - litsol <mishra.lalit Sunday, August 12, 2007 2:08 am [vedic astrology] Responses to Arjun Pandit in Other Groujps 1 Mukhi's Business vedic astrology > Very Interesting : All world knows his intensions, In our group, he > offered 1 mukhi for 5 lakhs, wherreas in other group he w'd sell it for > 3 lakhs.. > > This sort of spurious salesman are true enemy of Vedic Values, Coz > such a man will use > sacred text for befooling and looting ur money. > > There is another way of doing a business too, give ur's right > introduction with ur real name, get sales tax no, income tax no, get > ISI and other quality certificates, > give gurantee and authenticity of the product and make a reasonable > profit..., take ur responsibility. > > Who will call u bullshit if u r not doing wrong practise, but no, > in > India every bullshit will > become a Pandit, Will exploit ur's faith and then create a terror > in > ur's heart, > and will ask any price .. and if he knows there are some > foreigners he > will ask a price unbelievable. > > Well, read what's bellow, it gives u an insight of rudrakschhas - > Lalit. > > ============================================================ > > It's pasted from sacred-objects > < > > Siddharth Mishra sidhmis wrote: > > > Dear Pandit Arjun, For god sake pl dont misguide the menbers of this > group with your stupid theories. Here no body wants your 1 Mukhis > Rudrakshas for 2 or 3 Lakhs. Pl dont befool people for own your > commercial interests. > > It is a simple logic that a four Mukhi has 4 > chambers and four seeds similarly a 5 Mukhi has 5 seeds. > > There could be one odd exception where in the bead might have less > seed. > But for that exception we can not authentically comment on all > Rudrakshas. > > Now pl dont ask me how many Rudrakshan I have cut, Respected Richard > Sir, Pl > ban this person from the group and his websit be blacklisted. > > He appears to be a spurious supplier of Rudrakshas whose main aim is > to > misguide > people and sell his spurious 1 Mukhis. Lets have the positive people > and > knowledgeable people like you, Rajiv Krishna Dasa, Rudra Centre, Amit > Uniyalji, etc. to guide the whole fraternity of Rudrakshas. > > Regards, > Siddharth > > panditarjun2004 panditarjun2004 wrote: dear friend ole > > yes, i stick to my observation that in a four, five or six mukhi > rudraksha the gap between the lines is wide and you find the number > of locules or chambers or seeds within it. but when comes to higher > mukh rudrakhsa like 13, 14 and above, you would fine few lines having > good gap and few lines especially on both sides near the centre, have > as little as no gap between them and hence you find thier inner > chambers mixed and you also find less number of seeds. i dont cut > a > rudraksha as lord shiva dwells in it but have seen a couple of 14 > and > 13mukh beads when they got broken accidentally and then tested them. > i am not a hyprocite to treat a rudraksha as god and then cut and > test it like a commodity. i strictly believe a rudraksha as lord > shiva and hence will not cut it to test it. even the gentleman who > tested a 14mukh and found 14 loculi is laying emphasis on the word > well developed and large sized which means all the small and medium > sized rudraksha will not pass this test. most of the rudraksha of > higher mukh are available in small and medium size and the largest > beads are sold as collector beads at exorbitant prices as they are > very rarely available. > > also when a rudraksha is plucked from the tree and is cleaned and > a > hole made, you would find several seeds falling off when the supplier > makes the hole. very rarely you find a higher mukh rudraksha without > a hole. > > so all i am saying is that there is no foolproof scientific test and > system to measure the number of seeds of a rudraksha or the number > of > chambers inside the rudraksha matching the external lines. > > with best wishes and blessings > pandit arjun > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > sacred-objects > <sacred-objects%40 , Ole Alstrup alstrup@ > wrote: > > Dear Pandit Arjun, > > Do I understand you correctly that there is no 13 or 14 Nepali > mukhi beads in existence with the equivalent number of locules > inside? How many beads have you tested? What method did you use? > > Thanking you, > > Ole > > panditarjun2004 panditarjun2004@ wrote: > dear brother richard > > you are truly blessed to see the original round ek mukh rudraksha > with > your trusted late kalibaba. hope this answers to disbelievers who > call > it a myth. > > elementary truth is that one would find several mukhi rudraksha > coming > from the same tree. so if one finds only one line naturally > developed > in a round rudraksha bead, he must construe it as a one mukh > rudraksha. > > i challenge openly with all those laboratary test hungry > disbelievers > to prove 14 locules in a 14mukh rudraksha and 13 locules in a > 13mukh > rudraksha. if they start mentioning exceptions and impossibilities, > then they must not preach locules as a certain rule to decipher > the > number of lines external matching the number of locules within. > > the gods and sages have only advised to COUNT the number of lines > ON > the rudraksha and i follow only that method treating it as a holy > divine product with the invisible god dwelling in it. > > hence rudraksha is a matter of solicitation and a holy object of > faith. a person who has faith in the sacred object and in the > person > who provides that, buys it. a person not having faith does not buy > it. it is as simple as it is. hence there is no need for us to have > two groups of believers and disbelievers fighting each other to > prove > their theory is correct. > > after all, we are all having the same objective of serving the > natives > by providing them sacred objects and i advise all rudraksha > fraternity > to serve their customers in their own ways instead of criticising > others in an internecine way. > > with best wishes and blessings > pandit arjun > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > sacred-objects > <sacred-objects%40 , " Richard Shaw-Brown " > <rsbj66@ wrote: > > Dear All, > > It is amazing. If you want to see action in this group, then just > question goal dhana Eka Mukhi. > > Late Kali Baba of Nepal had a genuine goal dhana eka mukhi. For > certain. Seeing very closely is believing. And Kali Baba deserved > Eka > Mukhi. Actually Eka Mukhi is the ornament of Advaitavadins, > tyagis, > not Grihastas. I wouldn't wear an eka mukhi even if I had one. > I > would > worship it as Lord Shiva. In my opinion Chaturdasha Mukhi is the > ultimate for Grihastas. > > Y/s, > Richard > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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