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Hare ramakrishna,

 

dear lalit,

 

Almost every thing has written by punditji and now i can answer

the education aspects of ketu.

 

So i hav to dig out the details of your birth chart from group mails

,so was the delay .

 

Rahu and ketu are chayya grahas ,means they dont hav existence in

world in physical form ,in jyothish we calculate as mathematical points

..its says its moons conjunction (i dont know much astronomy) with path

in sun and rahu considered as head ,in english it s called dragon head

and ketu is tail and called dragon tail.This concept was there in all

methology in diffrnt contxt also.

 

Now coming to the point These chaya grahas has generaly no rasi

assigned to them ,rarely i find in nadis some use as kummbh for rahu

and ketu i find some gives as to mesha and some give as vrichik as own

rasi and parashari and varahmihira differr with exaltation of rahu and

ketu.

 

But in general use we find that these planets has great attraction power

and it can give 3 effects ,when alone it will giv the effect of the lord

of the rasi it sits in ,then nakshatra lords effect and then finaly the

planets aspects them their results also attracts and giv them .

 

if in yuti (conjunction ) with planets ,it gives this results also

mainly .

 

IN that case with yuti with a planet it can giv the effect of planets

bhava phala ,if with 4th lord that effect and 7th lord that effect .And

karaka effects (unless jeva karaka --karaka with life ) it also these

planets esp ketu giv s ,Other indications we hav to see other karakas

and its postion from that karakas will tell also ur anubhava (the fruit

you will experience ) its position in respect with lagna lord it will

show whether u personaly enjoy or not ,and bhagya karakas positon will

say what bhagya and labha karaka will say what you will accumulate ,like

this also u can delinate results

 

You must also remeber the puranic storey attached with rahu ketu and

how its treated as rahu is head (which part - amrit consumed ) and ketu

is tail(which doesnot consume amrita also no head ) so rahu can magnify

some results where as ketu is a steady type as he has no head ,so no

eyes, yes has antar netra (inside drishti ) it acts like a spiritual

planet ,also some times obstruct u as if ur thought less actions also

it can show .

 

If u tell me with full truth see the result of ur mercury which

operated at the ripe time of education and then marriage ,see u can see

it might hav obstructed as ketu is a negetor and then he will release

it in own time ,so no doubt ketu has given u good educational

qualification without much obstruction during its period .And mercury is

karaka for education also so its kendra trikona sambandha with ketu will

pronounce its results in its dasa .Thats the case with any karakas with

any dasa lords has sambantha ( i mean shud be placed well)

 

Now coming to 5th house its childrens place ,its mantra stana and its

higher intelligence also so many other things

 

and ketu is puka mara ( smoke screen ) but ketu is more dharmik than

rahu who can magnify a dosha ,but ketu is spiritual and it has antar

netra ,so u can remove this dosha by ganesh mantras or chinna masta

sadhanas --the dasa mahavidya .It depends on one marga in chart ,and

which u choose,Ketu with mercury give astrology .Also academic and

theretical knowledge also computers and small machines and even mystic

laungage -i think sofware also a laungage

 

Its having 3/11 relations with sani the real karma karaka and 10th

lord in natural horoscope of kaal purusha ,so it has give a rise also

in keru period also doing astrological or mantra tantra can giv u more

effect ,as now the deva brahmana mantra karaka is in 6th from (not god

in begining) ketu ,but being vakri it will aspect from it s 5th house a

combination for fruitification of results in that pursuits.

 

5th house also the area below heart ,so may be afffliction to that area

shud be expected in future

 

Mercury is karaka for communication ,speech so the affliction can giv

problems in that and even people will not like u r talks and speeches

and can giv a back firing effect also

 

Mercury also karaka for uncles and also frnds --even it can be girls

also,so some bad experince from this quarters also shud be expected .

 

And ketu in 5th is maraka to 4th house of mother and property and it

may giv that effect if the periods from their karakas also shows it

wrongly

 

The patni karaka --venus (karaka for spouse ) is in 12th from ketu

and ketu placed in 2nd shows some maraka effects in that area

 

Also 5th house is house of romance the planets there may giv romance ,if

operating at right time .and its maraka s r sun and mars(being in 6th

and lord ) and also sani and rahu (being in 11th and as lord) so one of

this period may act as maraka to this effects.THe 2nd and 7th place from

any bhava is maraka to that bhava and if other planets r there it can

also give that effect.

 

This how we see we use a dasa prediction -The planets ,then the

differrent karaka with its placement from dasa lord, and finaly the

transit --this also shud be seen from moon and diffrnt karakas.

 

No ketu or rahu gives effect of its own and all general statements are

the basics which shud be kept in mind while delinating the chart

 

Brigu nadi says nodes in 5th is sarpa dosha (which can giv problems in

progency)---prashna marga supports it but says the drishti ,yuti changes

the effect and other aspect also shud be considered.

 

I covered a large area as ur question though the question only

regrding the education but like pundit Dakshina moorthi said no chart

shud be approached in a peice meal way or selecting singly some

combinations .Atleast we shud satisfy with 100 chart with recurring

results in atleast 80 % of the charts .I was typing in between my

reports to various customers ,so any mistakes forgive me

 

 

 

I covered a large area as many memebers may hav some doubts .I hope

my this stray reading will serve the purpose.

 

 

 

regrds sunil nair

 

om shreem maha laxmai namah.

 

 

 

http://indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/

<http://indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/>

 

pt.sunilnair <pt.sunilnair

 

 

 

( Pls dont contct me in prvt mail or chat for free reading as i hav not

much time to do free other than groups )

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology , " litsol " <mishra.lalit

wrote:

>

> Dear Mr. Saumya,

>

> Let the Sunil Ji come up with his opinion to correct us, the Query

> for Ketu's role in Academic Eduction, Dont deviate form the main

> point, that we are trying to understand .

>

> Any book on astrology says Ketu on 5'th may cause some trouble to

> stomach, Again this is an isolated vision only.., Lot depends on the

> aspects, 5'th plalced ketu is having from other planets and also on

> the 5'th lord's placement.

>

>

>

> regards,

> Lalit.

>

>

>

>

>

> vedic astrology , saumya ray chaudhuri

> saumya@ wrote:

> >

> > Respected Dakshinamoorthi Ji,

> > Very informative mail. You are also very much right about judging

> planet not in isolation. I do have Ketu in 5th house which is libra

> and with Venus. Now, I do have stomach problem mainly acidity. I have

> one daughter, fond of learning being a scientist and I am only son of

> my parents. I am not evil either. Well this should be checked by

> others. So some parameters could be tested in isolation. But to

> understand the proper planetary effect, I do think people must see in

> totality not in isolation.

> >

> > With personal regards

> > Pranam

> > Saumya

> > dakshinastrologer dakshinastrologer@ wrote:

> > Dear Group:

> >

> > Please read the mail below for which I am giving this reply....

> >

> > The writer has wrongly assumed that Ketu is misinterpreted as being

> > productive of evil to one's academic excellence.....He starts from

> > patently absurd assumptions....he claims that " others " have that

> > opinion.....then starts refuting it as it he is a " know all " .....A

> > learner should never venture into such debates if he is really a

> > learner. If he is already learnt, he should not harbour such absurd

> > ideas!

> >

> > The following are the general observations of Ketu in the 5th house:

> >

> > The native has an evil nature, has malicious intentions, will

> suffer

> > from ailments of the stomach, there will be trouble from pisachas

> > (evil spirits). The native's younger brothers are liable to get

> > hurt; the native will have few sons and little happiness from them.

> > But the native is fond of learning, engages perseveringly in work

> and

> > is intelligent. Gain from cows. The mind is constantly worried!

> > (Source:

> > Hindu predictive astrology - Pandit Gopesh Kumar Ojha; page no. 173)

> >

> > Prof. K.S. Krishnamurthi says " Inauspicious to children, may

> stammer

> > (my interpretation: this can be interpreted loosely as weakness of

> > speech - bad mouthing is also a weakness of speech!), a bad person,

> > may be punished by the Government, will reside in a place where

> there

> > are indecent people, will be cunning, hydrophobia, unhealthy. "

> >

> > According to Jaatakaabharanam, such a placement makes a person

> > wealthy, and strong. General opinion about ketu in the 5th house is

> > that such natives have a " rush of ideas " and are opiniated.

> >

> > These guidelines are given so that parents can judge these

> > characteristics from childhood and temper those negatives to an

> > extent that the native will not be a nuisance to sane society in

> > later years. Mere intelligence is not enough, and it is useless

> > unless such an intelligence is diverted towards productive

> endeavours

> > for the welfare of others rather than maligning others.

> >

> > Similarly, Rahu in the 5th house does not make a person careless

> > regarding academics. Actually such persons make very good

> occultists

> > and are good at research type of studies. This is also productive

> of

> > putra dosha.

> >

> > In astrology, the first basic rule is to take everything as a whole

> > and not in parts. Definitely some part will be correct and on dot

> to

> > some horoscope. Based on that we should not jump into conclusions.

> >

> > Placement of the planet, its strength, aspects on that planet, the

> > disposition of other significators (for education, 4, and 9th in

> > addition to 2nd house to a lesser extent), etc should be judged

> > carefully.

> >

> > The fragmented research as suggested by Mr. Lalith will only be

> > misleading, and this is definitely not the way to learn astrology.

> >

> > I am clarifying this only so that other readers here do not get

> > misled.

> >

> > If you read the above things about ketu in 5th house, the thing

> about

> > Pisacha baadha, malicious intentions, intelligence is on-dot

> > regarding Mr. Lalith....But that does not mean that everyone with

> > Ketu in 5th house will suffer paisacha baadha. The danger is there;

> > but remedies can be done to avoid such an occurrence, and that is

> the

> > real purpose of astrology - to identify weaknesses of the horoscope

> > early on in life and take preventive measures to overcome that. For

> > instance, Rahu/ Ketu in 5th which are productive of putra dosha can

> > be neutralized by proper chants from childhood and if such a

> measure

> > is taken, we need not run from pillar to post after marriage to

> > remove the dosha!

> >

> > This was the spirit of vedic astrology. More than asserting

> anything

> > or maligning anything, the idea was to take precautions, remedies,

> > etc. as far as possible based on the possible dangers indicated. If

> > after all this something negative happened, traditional people do

> > accept it as their fate and do not go about blaming traditions,

> > shaastraas, etc.

> >

> > I have explained it in this detail because this is my last post

> here.

> >

> > I will not continue in a group where there is no distinction

> between

> > a student and a Guru, and where there is no active moderation to

> > avoid unsavoury exchanges (I am of the opinion even Mohanraaamji's

> > tough mails should have been first of all not allowed to come into

> > the group. Old members of this group might remember how I had often

> > written asking Mohanraaamji to refrain from using abusive words. I

> > felt even " idiot " is an abusive word; but more stronger words have

> > been used against me!)

> >

> > Dharma shaastra does not advocate unconditional ahimsa. What I am

> > doing is consistent with vedic protocols......According to Dharma

> > Shaastra " apaatra Vidyaa dhaanam apaara paapa janitam " means

> if " gift

> > of knowledge shown to undeserving persons is productive of great

> sin " .

> > Many of you here are deserving; but how can I differentiate between

> a

> > genuine student and a malicious " knowledge theif " in an open

> > forum...what I post here will be for everyone. Previously I never

> > had such a fear here though there were some controversies. I felt

> > that the persons concerned were decent enough though they did use

> > hard words occasionally; they never used abusive words. They did

> not

> > say one day " Panditji you are knowledgeable " and the next

> > day " Pakhandi Pandit " , " mafia " , " swine " , and what not!!!!!!

> >

> > The moderator is blissfully sleeping; enough time has been for them

> > to act. People have written to them. I do not deserve that. When I

> > share things here, you must understand that I am spending my time

> > which I could have productively spent for my own sadhanas, or even

> > for further learning and improvement of my own knowledge (Knowledge

> > is endless, and I do not think one life time is enough for learning

> > everything....I have lots to learn). When I spent hours together

> > like that I have compromised myself and my own professional

> > interests.... (on an average I used to spend at least 3 hours for

> > posting messages here and the time I have spent on answering

> queries

> > from members on a honorary basis on technical details off this list

> > can never be logged properly!). I have always streamlined by

> > appointments in such a way that I did not allow my professional

> > interests to supercede my contribution here; I used to say I have

> no

> > time and postpone appointments because I did not want to use the

> time

> > I spend for this group to be compromised. Did I get one penny for

> > all that? Did I worry about that? Very few members of this group

> > have approached me on professional basis.....I have always

> considered

> > it broadly.....those who can are contributing....those who cannot

> do

> > not do so....so what, life will balance out everything. Definitely

> > this is not the mind of a commercial person; yet such an allegation

> > has come, and that person still struts around....what is more....he

> > is again approaching everything from his own limited perspective

> and

> > that he bases as authentic! It is ridiculous. I do not have time or

> > intention for such cheap mental gymnastics with unworthy persons.

> >

> > If the subject has to be learnt, doubts should have a genuine

> > basis....this is ridiculous...there are various versions of results

> > of planets in different houses, and they all have their validity in

> a

> > context.....Group learners here, I implore you all to respect the

> > basic dictum of this science of astrology..... " NEVER INTERPRET ANY

> > PLANETARY COMBINATION IN ISOLATION; NEVER USE ANY ASTROLOGICAL

> DICTUM

> > OUT OF CONTEXT "

> >

> > Let the shaastraas be your guide; let your intuition be your guide;

> > let prayers be your strength; let truth be your companion.

> >

> > Blessings to one and all.

> >

> > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology , " litsol "

> > wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Group,

> > >

> > > I wish to share my observations about Ketu's role in 5'th house.

> > > I m running under Ketu-Jupitor Dasha.

> > >

> > > The Ketu is minsinterpreted as a planet to harm one's acadamic

> > > eductaion or his mainstream of study.

> > >

> > > I cross checked with my 2-3 friend's horoscopes, and what i found

> > is,

> > > Ketu gives u energy to do good in extra curriculum activities and

> > > hobbies, in the ancient age, extra curriculum activities were

> seen

> > as

> > > obstruction to ur mainstream of the study, therefore, it seems

> this

> > > opinion is made.

> > >

> > > What's the strange is, I completed my Master's in Ketu's dasa, My

> > > friend Saurabh Chaturvedi, completed got admission into B.Tech in

> > > Ketu's Pratyantar, Completed His B.Tech in Ketu's another

> > Pratyantar

> > > and even got admission in his M.Tech (VLSI) in Ketu's another

> > > Pratyantar.

> > >

> > > Same is true with another guy, however, i saw, Rahu in 5'th maks

> a

> > > guy careless in his studies.

> > >

> > > I w'd like to see, elders and friend's opinion on this..

> > > particualrly, Bhagavati Ji and Sunil Ji, I hope Rafel w'd also

> tell

> > > something.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Lalit.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-

>

> >

> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

> >

> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||

> >

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Resp. Sunil Ji,

 

You are absolutely right, I had 2 yrs gap in my studies after my

graduation, and my MCA, that happened in Mercurry's Dasha ...

 

I obtained my Master Degree in Ketu's beginning.

 

You are also right that what pandit has said was vey general in

nature, though his kids think it is very special.

 

How he twists the fact that 5'th ketu means evil person, he never

said the kind of foul play he does with the readings, what he is ...

 

Any Way, I m leaving the group, as they bullshits are too much in

number and they consult each other and then posts mails to group, all

are worried about their realities .. coz, their knowledge is not that

deep they claim to have.

 

Thanx to you for giving this valuable informatin about Ketu - Rahu.

 

best regards,

Lalit.

 

 

vedic astrology , " sunil nair "

<astro_tellerkerala wrote:

>

>

> Hare ramakrishna,

>

> dear lalit,

>

> Almost every thing has written by punditji and now i can

answer

> the education aspects of ketu.

>

> So i hav to dig out the details of your birth chart from group

mails

> ,so was the delay .

>

> Rahu and ketu are chayya grahas ,means they dont hav existence in

> world in physical form ,in jyothish we calculate as mathematical

points

> .its says its moons conjunction (i dont know much astronomy) with

path

> in sun and rahu considered as head ,in english it s called dragon

head

> and ketu is tail and called dragon tail.This concept was there in

all

> methology in diffrnt contxt also.

>

> Now coming to the point These chaya grahas has generaly no rasi

> assigned to them ,rarely i find in nadis some use as kummbh for

rahu

> and ketu i find some gives as to mesha and some give as vrichik as

own

> rasi and parashari and varahmihira differr with exaltation of rahu

and

> ketu.

>

> But in general use we find that these planets has great attraction

power

> and it can give 3 effects ,when alone it will giv the effect of the

lord

> of the rasi it sits in ,then nakshatra lords effect and then finaly

the

> planets aspects them their results also attracts and giv them .

>

> if in yuti (conjunction ) with planets ,it gives this results also

> mainly .

>

> IN that case with yuti with a planet it can giv the effect of

planets

> bhava phala ,if with 4th lord that effect and 7th lord that

effect .And

> karaka effects (unless jeva karaka --karaka with life ) it also

these

> planets esp ketu giv s ,Other indications we hav to see other

karakas

> and its postion from that karakas will tell also ur anubhava (the

fruit

> you will experience ) its position in respect with lagna lord it

will

> show whether u personaly enjoy or not ,and bhagya karakas positon

will

> say what bhagya and labha karaka will say what you will

accumulate ,like

> this also u can delinate results

>

> You must also remeber the puranic storey attached with rahu ketu

and

> how its treated as rahu is head (which part - amrit consumed ) and

ketu

> is tail(which doesnot consume amrita also no head ) so rahu can

magnify

> some results where as ketu is a steady type as he has no head ,so

no

> eyes, yes has antar netra (inside drishti ) it acts like a spiritual

> planet ,also some times obstruct u as if ur thought less actions

also

> it can show .

>

> If u tell me with full truth see the result of ur mercury which

> operated at the ripe time of education and then marriage ,see u can

see

> it might hav obstructed as ketu is a negetor and then he will

release

> it in own time ,so no doubt ketu has given u good educational

> qualification without much obstruction during its period .And

mercury is

> karaka for education also so its kendra trikona sambandha with ketu

will

> pronounce its results in its dasa .Thats the case with any karakas

with

> any dasa lords has sambantha ( i mean shud be placed well)

>

> Now coming to 5th house its childrens place ,its mantra stana and

its

> higher intelligence also so many other things

>

> and ketu is puka mara ( smoke screen ) but ketu is more dharmik

than

> rahu who can magnify a dosha ,but ketu is spiritual and it has antar

> netra ,so u can remove this dosha by ganesh mantras or chinna masta

> sadhanas --the dasa mahavidya .It depends on one marga in chart ,and

> which u choose,Ketu with mercury give astrology .Also academic and

> theretical knowledge also computers and small machines and even

mystic

> laungage -i think sofware also a laungage

>

> Its having 3/11 relations with sani the real karma karaka and

10th

> lord in natural horoscope of kaal purusha ,so it has give a rise

also

> in keru period also doing astrological or mantra tantra can giv u

more

> effect ,as now the deva brahmana mantra karaka is in 6th from (not

god

> in begining) ketu ,but being vakri it will aspect from it s 5th

house a

> combination for fruitification of results in that pursuits.

>

> 5th house also the area below heart ,so may be afffliction to that

area

> shud be expected in future

>

> Mercury is karaka for communication ,speech so the affliction can

giv

> problems in that and even people will not like u r talks and

speeches

> and can giv a back firing effect also

>

> Mercury also karaka for uncles and also frnds --even it can be girls

> also,so some bad experince from this quarters also shud be

expected .

>

> And ketu in 5th is maraka to 4th house of mother and property

and it

> may giv that effect if the periods from their karakas also shows

it

> wrongly

>

> The patni karaka --venus (karaka for spouse ) is in 12th from

ketu

> and ketu placed in 2nd shows some maraka effects in that area

>

> Also 5th house is house of romance the planets there may giv

romance ,if

> operating at right time .and its maraka s r sun and mars(being in

6th

> and lord ) and also sani and rahu (being in 11th and as lord) so

one of

> this period may act as maraka to this effects.THe 2nd and 7th place

from

> any bhava is maraka to that bhava and if other planets r there it

can

> also give that effect.

>

> This how we see we use a dasa prediction -The planets ,then the

> differrent karaka with its placement from dasa lord, and finaly

the

> transit --this also shud be seen from moon and diffrnt karakas.

>

> No ketu or rahu gives effect of its own and all general

statements are

> the basics which shud be kept in mind while delinating the chart

>

> Brigu nadi says nodes in 5th is sarpa dosha (which can giv

problems in

> progency)---prashna marga supports it but says the drishti ,yuti

changes

> the effect and other aspect also shud be considered.

>

> I covered a large area as ur question though the question only

> regrding the education but like pundit Dakshina moorthi said no

chart

> shud be approached in a peice meal way or selecting singly some

> combinations .Atleast we shud satisfy with 100 chart with recurring

> results in atleast 80 % of the charts .I was typing in between my

> reports to various customers ,so any mistakes forgive me

>

>

>

> I covered a large area as many memebers may hav some doubts .I

hope

> my this stray reading will serve the purpose.

>

>

>

> regrds sunil nair

>

> om shreem maha laxmai namah.

>

>

>

> http://indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/

> <http://indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/>

>

> pt.sunilnair <pt.sunilnair

>

>

>

> ( Pls dont contct me in prvt mail or chat for free reading as i hav

not

> much time to do free other than groups )

>

>

>

>

> vedic astrology , " litsol " <mishra.lalit@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Mr. Saumya,

> >

> > Let the Sunil Ji come up with his opinion to correct us, the Query

> > for Ketu's role in Academic Eduction, Dont deviate form the main

> > point, that we are trying to understand .

> >

> > Any book on astrology says Ketu on 5'th may cause some trouble to

> > stomach, Again this is an isolated vision only.., Lot depends on

the

> > aspects, 5'th plalced ketu is having from other planets and also

on

> > the 5'th lord's placement.

> >

> >

> >

> > regards,

> > Lalit.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology , saumya ray chaudhuri

> > saumya@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Respected Dakshinamoorthi Ji,

> > > Very informative mail. You are also very much right about

judging

> > planet not in isolation. I do have Ketu in 5th house which is

libra

> > and with Venus. Now, I do have stomach problem mainly acidity. I

have

> > one daughter, fond of learning being a scientist and I am only

son of

> > my parents. I am not evil either. Well this should be checked by

> > others. So some parameters could be tested in isolation. But to

> > understand the proper planetary effect, I do think people must

see in

> > totality not in isolation.

> > >

> > > With personal regards

> > > Pranam

> > > Saumya

> > > dakshinastrologer dakshinastrologer@ wrote:

> > > Dear Group:

> > >

> > > Please read the mail below for which I am giving this reply....

> > >

> > > The writer has wrongly assumed that Ketu is misinterpreted as

being

> > > productive of evil to one's academic excellence.....He starts

from

> > > patently absurd assumptions....he claims that " others " have that

> > > opinion.....then starts refuting it as it he is a " know

all " .....A

> > > learner should never venture into such debates if he is really a

> > > learner. If he is already learnt, he should not harbour such

absurd

> > > ideas!

> > >

> > > The following are the general observations of Ketu in the 5th

house:

> > >

> > > The native has an evil nature, has malicious intentions, will

> > suffer

> > > from ailments of the stomach, there will be trouble from

pisachas

> > > (evil spirits). The native's younger brothers are liable to get

> > > hurt; the native will have few sons and little happiness from

them.

> > > But the native is fond of learning, engages perseveringly in

work

> > and

> > > is intelligent. Gain from cows. The mind is constantly worried!

> > > (Source:

> > > Hindu predictive astrology - Pandit Gopesh Kumar Ojha; page no.

173)

> > >

> > > Prof. K.S. Krishnamurthi says " Inauspicious to children, may

> > stammer

> > > (my interpretation: this can be interpreted loosely as weakness

of

> > > speech - bad mouthing is also a weakness of speech!), a bad

person,

> > > may be punished by the Government, will reside in a place where

> > there

> > > are indecent people, will be cunning, hydrophobia, unhealthy. "

> > >

> > > According to Jaatakaabharanam, such a placement makes a person

> > > wealthy, and strong. General opinion about ketu in the 5th

house is

> > > that such natives have a " rush of ideas " and are opiniated.

> > >

> > > These guidelines are given so that parents can judge these

> > > characteristics from childhood and temper those negatives to an

> > > extent that the native will not be a nuisance to sane society in

> > > later years. Mere intelligence is not enough, and it is useless

> > > unless such an intelligence is diverted towards productive

> > endeavours

> > > for the welfare of others rather than maligning others.

> > >

> > > Similarly, Rahu in the 5th house does not make a person careless

> > > regarding academics. Actually such persons make very good

> > occultists

> > > and are good at research type of studies. This is also

productive

> > of

> > > putra dosha.

> > >

> > > In astrology, the first basic rule is to take everything as a

whole

> > > and not in parts. Definitely some part will be correct and on

dot

> > to

> > > some horoscope. Based on that we should not jump into

conclusions.

> > >

> > > Placement of the planet, its strength, aspects on that planet,

the

> > > disposition of other significators (for education, 4, and 9th in

> > > addition to 2nd house to a lesser extent), etc should be judged

> > > carefully.

> > >

> > > The fragmented research as suggested by Mr. Lalith will only be

> > > misleading, and this is definitely not the way to learn

astrology.

> > >

> > > I am clarifying this only so that other readers here do not get

> > > misled.

> > >

> > > If you read the above things about ketu in 5th house, the thing

> > about

> > > Pisacha baadha, malicious intentions, intelligence is on-dot

> > > regarding Mr. Lalith....But that does not mean that everyone

with

> > > Ketu in 5th house will suffer paisacha baadha. The danger is

there;

> > > but remedies can be done to avoid such an occurrence, and that

is

> > the

> > > real purpose of astrology - to identify weaknesses of the

horoscope

> > > early on in life and take preventive measures to overcome that.

For

> > > instance, Rahu/ Ketu in 5th which are productive of putra dosha

can

> > > be neutralized by proper chants from childhood and if such a

> > measure

> > > is taken, we need not run from pillar to post after marriage to

> > > remove the dosha!

> > >

> > > This was the spirit of vedic astrology. More than asserting

> > anything

> > > or maligning anything, the idea was to take precautions,

remedies,

> > > etc. as far as possible based on the possible dangers

indicated. If

> > > after all this something negative happened, traditional people

do

> > > accept it as their fate and do not go about blaming traditions,

> > > shaastraas, etc.

> > >

> > > I have explained it in this detail because this is my last post

> > here.

> > >

> > > I will not continue in a group where there is no distinction

> > between

> > > a student and a Guru, and where there is no active moderation to

> > > avoid unsavoury exchanges (I am of the opinion even

Mohanraaamji's

> > > tough mails should have been first of all not allowed to come

into

> > > the group. Old members of this group might remember how I had

often

> > > written asking Mohanraaamji to refrain from using abusive

words. I

> > > felt even " idiot " is an abusive word; but more stronger words

have

> > > been used against me!)

> > >

> > > Dharma shaastra does not advocate unconditional ahimsa. What I

am

> > > doing is consistent with vedic protocols......According to

Dharma

> > > Shaastra " apaatra Vidyaa dhaanam apaara paapa janitam " means

> > if " gift

> > > of knowledge shown to undeserving persons is productive of great

> > sin " .

> > > Many of you here are deserving; but how can I differentiate

between

> > a

> > > genuine student and a malicious " knowledge theif " in an open

> > > forum...what I post here will be for everyone. Previously I

never

> > > had such a fear here though there were some controversies. I

felt

> > > that the persons concerned were decent enough though they did

use

> > > hard words occasionally; they never used abusive words. They did

> > not

> > > say one day " Panditji you are knowledgeable " and the next

> > > day " Pakhandi Pandit " , " mafia " , " swine " , and what not!!!!!!

> > >

> > > The moderator is blissfully sleeping; enough time has been for

them

> > > to act. People have written to them. I do not deserve that.

When I

> > > share things here, you must understand that I am spending my

time

> > > which I could have productively spent for my own sadhanas, or

even

> > > for further learning and improvement of my own knowledge

(Knowledge

> > > is endless, and I do not think one life time is enough for

learning

> > > everything....I have lots to learn). When I spent hours together

> > > like that I have compromised myself and my own professional

> > > interests.... (on an average I used to spend at least 3 hours

for

> > > posting messages here and the time I have spent on answering

> > queries

> > > from members on a honorary basis on technical details off this

list

> > > can never be logged properly!). I have always streamlined by

> > > appointments in such a way that I did not allow my professional

> > > interests to supercede my contribution here; I used to say I

have

> > no

> > > time and postpone appointments because I did not want to use the

> > time

> > > I spend for this group to be compromised. Did I get one penny

for

> > > all that? Did I worry about that? Very few members of this group

> > > have approached me on professional basis.....I have always

> > considered

> > > it broadly.....those who can are contributing....those who

cannot

> > do

> > > not do so....so what, life will balance out everything.

Definitely

> > > this is not the mind of a commercial person; yet such an

allegation

> > > has come, and that person still struts around....what is

more....he

> > > is again approaching everything from his own limited perspective

> > and

> > > that he bases as authentic! It is ridiculous. I do not have

time or

> > > intention for such cheap mental gymnastics with unworthy

persons.

> > >

> > > If the subject has to be learnt, doubts should have a genuine

> > > basis....this is ridiculous...there are various versions of

results

> > > of planets in different houses, and they all have their

validity in

> > a

> > > context.....Group learners here, I implore you all to respect

the

> > > basic dictum of this science of astrology..... " NEVER INTERPRET

ANY

> > > PLANETARY COMBINATION IN ISOLATION; NEVER USE ANY ASTROLOGICAL

> > DICTUM

> > > OUT OF CONTEXT "

> > >

> > > Let the shaastraas be your guide; let your intuition be your

guide;

> > > let prayers be your strength; let truth be your companion.

> > >

> > > Blessings to one and all.

> > >

> > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > >

> > >

> > > vedic astrology , " litsol "

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Group,

> > > >

> > > > I wish to share my observations about Ketu's role in 5'th

house.

> > > > I m running under Ketu-Jupitor Dasha.

> > > >

> > > > The Ketu is minsinterpreted as a planet to harm one's acadamic

> > > > eductaion or his mainstream of study.

> > > >

> > > > I cross checked with my 2-3 friend's horoscopes, and what i

found

> > > is,

> > > > Ketu gives u energy to do good in extra curriculum activities

and

> > > > hobbies, in the ancient age, extra curriculum activities were

> > seen

> > > as

> > > > obstruction to ur mainstream of the study, therefore, it seems

> > this

> > > > opinion is made.

> > > >

> > > > What's the strange is, I completed my Master's in Ketu's

dasa, My

> > > > friend Saurabh Chaturvedi, completed got admission into

B.Tech in

> > > > Ketu's Pratyantar, Completed His B.Tech in Ketu's another

> > > Pratyantar

> > > > and even got admission in his M.Tech (VLSI) in Ketu's another

> > > > Pratyantar.

> > > >

> > > > Same is true with another guy, however, i saw, Rahu in 5'th

maks

> > a

> > > > guy careless in his studies.

> > > >

> > > > I w'd like to see, elders and friend's opinion on this..

> > > > particualrly, Bhagavati Ji and Sunil Ji, I hope Rafel w'd also

> > tell

> > > > something.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Lalit.

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Group info: vedic-

astrology/info.html

> > >

> > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-

> >

> > >

> > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

> > >

> > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||

> > >

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