Respected Pandit Dakshinamoorthi-ji - About The Spirit of Prashna Chart !!

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Dear Respected Pandit Dakshinamoorthi-ji,

Sorry for the delay in my reply. Just wanted to say many thanks for your

detailed explanation.

I agree that a good teacher is worth a million books! Unfortunately, I don't

know of any learned astrologers nearby, but I do find this forum very valuable

in that regard.

Thank you again.

Best wishes,

Anita

 

Shindi <sinhazz wrote:

When required call me ...you will get all the rules...

 

 

litsol <mishra.lalit

vedic astrology

Thursday, August 2, 2007 6:49:48 PM

[vedic astrology] Re: About The Spirit of Prashna Chart !!

 

Hi Amit,

 

i m poor in this art.

 

if someone is there, will try to keep u in memory.

 

 

regards,

Lalit.

 

vedic astrology, Shindi <sinhazz > wrote:

>

> Hi Lalit,

>

> Let me help you lalit....... .........

> in terms of a sweet girl........ .......

>

> Whatever I have guessed about your personality from your posts...

> there is an advice for you......... .....

> whenever u make a girl friend...... .......never ever try to delve

into arguemental discusions.. . otherwise the girl will fly away like

anything.... .. beacuse girls dont like their criticism... .ok

>

> Hope you will take this advice in a good sense......

>

> Best of Luck for your pursuit....May u get the best girl of your

town........

>

> Thanks and regards,

> Amit Sinha

>

>

>

>

> litsol <mishra.lalit@ ...>

> vedic astrology

> Thursday, August 2, 2007 1:05:14 PM

> [vedic astrology] Re: About The Spirit of Prashna Chart !!

>

> Resp Sunil Ji,

>

> Thanx for the care and the guidance, I myself is not interested to

> curb a person be it spirit, soul, a jr. in my project or an animal.

>

> once, a (brahm rakschhasa) was disturbing a family of my relatives,

i

> visited that family during my leaves, what happened, he occupied a

> person of that family and like mediums, he requested me to talk to

> family to either take him maihar temple, where he wanted to serve

maa

> sharada, or to give a place by making a shrine for him.

>

> i was facing an unwanted problem, what to do ? then he started

> addressing me with " Son, u can understand me, i was a brahmin and

> died after my yagyopaveetam, my gayatri didnt complete, etc.., i

have

> been sleeping in this place for 200 yrs and doing my sadhana, they

> constructed their house here and i want peace now " .

>

> i thought if i m seeing a dream, further he blessed me, assured me

> for getting heights that i have never thought of, also said, it's

> only because i was there, he decided to come befor.

>

> I thought, even if the medium may be suffering from hesteria, what

is

> harm to goto maihar.

>

> next day i requested to head of that family and we all went to

> maihar, but, the surprising fact was, the landmark that he told to

me

> was found there. since there is a question in my mind, why he

himself

> didn't go to maihar ?

>

> but this spirit seems different, very intelligent, doesnt come

before

> me, doent harm me, but acts on the next person, particularly if she

> is a girl. she keeps watching from the distance.

>

> I will follow what is suggested by you and other elders in the

group.

> thanx for the wishes.

>

> after all, i m waiting for someone sweet in life.

>

>

>

> regards,

> Lalit.

>

> vedic astrology, " sunil nair "

> <astro_tellerkerala wrote:

> >

> >

> > Hare ramakrishna,

> >

> > dear lalitji .

> >

> > yes ,i also support the view of bhamasri punditji s views

> and pls

> > do as he prescribed .Even prashna maarga says so ,the annihilation

> > methods can be back fired esp in the hands of less trained

> ones .Evn

> > good brahmin tantriks from kerala who was ordained by lord

> parasurama

> > to look after these matters (as he ordered some families in

tantra

> and

> > some in astrology ,some in ayurveda like this --all sastras r

> > practised by some big families and their branches) are also

> maximum

> > pacifiying a spirit and let it go .Because the backlash can even

> > distroy the tantrik family also many generations without

> remedies .And

> > annihilation is considered as last resort and they may go for

> prathikara

> > bali ,ghadga ravana bali like this fierce methods...which is very

> > expensive also.

> >

> >

> >

> > regrds sunil nair

> >

> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, " dakshinastrologer "

> > <dakshinastrologer@ > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Shri. Lalith:

> > >

> > > Please make no attempt to " control " her....please do not even

> think

> > > like that...violence begets violence! Try to pacify

her....Spirits

> > > are like rebellious children...if you can touch their softcore,

> they

> > > will do your bidding and leave you in peace.

> > >

> > > That is why I recommended Sumangali Poojaa. The Blessings of

> > > Sumangaliis is like getting Blessing from Mother Herself, and

when

> > > ladies are respected, all ladies including the spirit will get

> > > pacified. Speak nice words as entreaties ..... " Oh Spirit! We

have

> > > prayed for your peace also. May Divinities give you

peace.....May

> > > you be free from your unnecessary attachment to this plane and

> > > transmigrate to other planes as per your karma. Please go in

> > > peace.....Peace be everywhere " .

> > >

> > > The presence of a saintly or noble person will definitely calm

the

> > > spirit. Spirits usually respect Divine Persons or persons who do

> > > Poojaas. Any upaasakaa of Kaali maa, Hanumaan, Lord

Kaartikeyaa,

> one

> > > who does regular Shiva Panchaayatana Pooja, one who reads

> Raamaayana

> > > regularly, etc. are qualified persons to make treaties with

> spirits.

> > > The spirits won't even manifest before them. These persons will

> > > speak softly requesting the spirit to leave the family in peace

> and

> > > also Bless it to attain peace. It will leave you in peace by

these

> > > measures.

> > >

> > > Please keep chanting the mantra that I suggested as per the

count

> > > (when we do out of devotion, there is no count; but when we want

> > > results, counts are necessary. Please do not analyze this

> > > further.). Arrange for Sumangali Pooja to be performed. Honour

> your

> > > sister and aunts as the recipients of the main gifts (sarees,

> > > bangles, etc.)

> > >

> > > By Divine Grace you can overcome the influence. If you succeed

in

> > > this, there will be no more issues or unnecessary delay of

> auspicious

> > > events in your life. May God Bless you. I am sure most members

> here

> > > will pray for the success of your remedies (That is the

greatness

> of

> > > groups like these; we all have our problems, yet we take time

out

> to

> > > pray for each other!)

> > >

> > > I repeat....please do not attempt to control it....I am not

> saying it

> > > is not possible; but, in that attempt, if it fails, the

backlash

> will

> > > be severe and of a magnitude that you will hardly imagine what

it

> can

> > > be! In trying to pacify it, there will be no side effects; the

> > > spirit will get pacified with time seeing that you are not

trying

> to

> > > challenge it or control it. Spirits are highly egoistic. But

love

> > > is very powerful. What a command cannot achieve, a simple

request

> > > will!

> > >

> > > Blessed be.

> > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, " litsol " mishra.lalit@

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hi Group,

> > > >

> > > > Let me share with u, the spirit which was referred to in

prashna

> > > > chart has revealed itself, she came in my younger sister's

dream

> > > who

> > > > lives 900 kms away from me.

> > > >

> > > > Now, at least we know her and as she said, her only objective

> is to

> > > > disturb me by changing other's mind, particualrly is she is a

> girl.

> > > >

> > > > as she doesn't harm me directly rather affects next person,

and

> i

> > > > have never seen her or realized her existance, it's all

> > > unbelievable

> > > > for me to understand, but if she is there and she can give a

> dream,

> > > > she exists.

> > > >

> > > > group's astrologers and panditji were right in their prashna

> chart.

> > > >

> > > > Let's see how to tackle this interesting episode, two ways

> either

> > > to

> > > > pacify her or to control her, how ?

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Lalit.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology, " dakshinastrologer "

> > > > <dakshinastrologer@ > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Anitaji:

> > > > >

> > > > > It is best not to dwelve too deeply into Paisacha baadha and

> > > other

> > > > > negatives. The remedy is simple - no entity can ever stand

any

> > > > > chance against a true devotee of God. Though it might

trouble

> > > you

> > > > > for some time due to your own karmaa, ultimately your

> devotion to

> > > > God

> > > > > will win.

> > > > >

> > > > > Those who are saatwik by nature, those who respect

shaastraas,

> > > and

> > > > > those who are respectfully disposed towards saintly

> personalities

> > > > > will sooner or later stumble upon the cure for these.

> (Actually

> > > > the

> > > > > influence of these deities can turn one into a non-

believer,

> or

> > > > > worse....an abuser of hallowed traditions; these entities

gain

> > > > > strength to torment a person only if he falls from dharma,

> and so

> > > > > they will impel him/her towards adharmic acts; a person who

is

> > > > highly

> > > > > ethical will hence shake off those influences easily without

> > > > recourse

> > > > > to any magical remedies).

> > > > >

> > > > > If you still wish to know about these matters, Prashna

Maarga

> > > > > translated by Shri. B.V.Raaman can be a good work to

> understand

> > > > this.

> > > > > However, please be warned, that I have found " Printer's

> Devil " in

> > > > > some chapters, and it is not best if you have a working

> knowledge

> > > > of

> > > > > sanskrit while reading Prashna Maarga so that you can cross

> check

> > > > the

> > > > > concepts from original source.

> > > > >

> > > > > Assessing Paisaacha Baadha is a specialist work, and

improper

> > > > > understanding of that might make you read a Paisaacha

Baadha

> in

> > > > most

> > > > > horoscopes and get confused unnecessarily. A good teacher is

> > > worth

> > > > a

> > > > > million books; please learn these sensitive subjects under a

> > > > > trustworthy spiritual person.

> > > > >

> > > > > Blessed be.

> > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology, anita anita

> > > > > <purple_currency_ white@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Respected Pandit-ji and members,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Could you please recommend a book where I can read and

learn

> > > > > about Paisacha Baadha and other karmic effects? A book in

> > > English

> > > > > which explains karma in detail and the planetary positions

in

> > > > charts

> > > > > for things like Paisacha Baadha would be ideal.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Many thanks in advance.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Anita

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer@ > wrote:

> > > > > > Respected Mohanraaamji:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I will just represent these facts:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1) I did refuse to share my mobile no. with the member

> Lalith

> > > > just

> > > > > > as I do with everyone. I am always accessible by email;

and

> > > email

> > > > > > exchanges are convenient to me because I can answer them

> back

> > > as

> > > > > > soon as I am free after a pooja session or counselling

> session.

> > > > > > Getting a phone call in the midst of a pooja or a

> counselling

> > > > > > disturbs me. Everyone who has moved with me knows that.

> Somehow

> > > > > > Shri. Lalith got offended by that. I could not help it,

and

> I

> > > > don't

> > > > > > intend to change my stance of not sharing mobile nos. with

> > > anyone.

> > > > > > I DID REFUSE TO SHARE THE PRASHNA CHART WITH HIM FOR

> REASONS I

> > > > HAVE

> > > > > > STATED BEFORE AND WHICH RAFALJI HAS ALSO POINTED OUT

> CORRECTLY

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2) I NEVER CLAIMED I AM A VVIP IN ANY OF MY MAILS TO

> HIM....He

> > > is

> > > > > > probably exaggerating it in his anger. However, when he

> wrote

> > > > > > lecturistic mails saying things like " You are

> unprofessional;

> > > you

> > > > > > are hiding something, it is not fair " , etc. I did

write " I

> am

> > > too

> > > > > > senior to be taking advices from novices like you " . This

is

> > > > exactly

> > > > > > (or something similar in meaning) what I wrote to him.

You

> are

> > > > > right

> > > > > > in saying that I would not have written like that...

Thanks

> for

> > > > > your

> > > > > > trust in me and my nature.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 3) Honestly, I did identify the Paisacha Baadha which has

> got

> > > to

> > > > do

> > > > > > with his own maltreatment of his wife of earlier birth.

> That is

> > > > why

> > > > > > I said it was karmic. If it is a simple ghostly visit,

> exorcism

> > > > is

> > > > > > not difficult; but when his karma intervenes, we cannot

help

> > > him

> > > > > > unless his attitude changes and he " accepts " he has

possibly

> > > gone

> > > > > > wrong somewhere and that is the root of his frustration.

> Again,

> > > > he

> > > > > > is not able to digest that he will not get a wife

according

> to

> > > > his

> > > > > > expectations. That was the real root of the problem. I had

> > > > > > categorically told him that which is what prompted the

> frequent

> > > > > > mails between us. CAN THE ASTROLOGER PLAY GOD AND SAY

WHAT

> THE

> > > > > > CLIENT WISHES TO HEAR? I do not believe in that. I am a

> human

> > > > with

> > > > > > normal human limitations, and I belive even remedies are

> only

> > > > > humble

> > > > > > Mercy Petitions and it is up to Divine Providence to hear

> our

> > > > pleas

> > > > > > and consider our requests favourably.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 4) I believe Fate is dynamic and remedies do have the

> potential

> > > > to

> > > > > > change Fate. It is customary of me to avoid predicting

> events

> > > for

> > > > > > which I have given remedies for this simple

> reason.....Remedies

> > > > are

> > > > > > given ONLY when the astrologer sees something is wrong and

> > > there

> > > > is

> > > > > > some hope to redeem the situation. That being the case,

if

> the

> > > > > > client insists on a technically correct analysis at this

> point

> > > of

> > > > > > time - then the prediction should necessarily be

negative.

> But,

> > > > > > then what about the remedies? If they succeed, the thing

> could

> > > > > > change! Now, what can the astrologer say in this

situation.

> So,

> > > > my

> > > > > > usual request to clients in such a situation is to

perform

> the

> > > > > > remedies and get back to me after certain period, and

later

> > > check

> > > > > > with a prashna to see if the remedies have infact

produced

> any

> > > > > > desirable alteration in Fate. Somehow, the member has

> > > > misunderstood

> > > > > > the dynamics of this and possibly even my motives.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 5) He wrote to me yesterday apologizing for the bitter

turn

> of

> > > > > > events, and I have Blessed him and requested him to do the

> > > > > > remedies. Even today, he asked for guidance about the

> sumangali

> > > > > > pooja because it seems the Vedic Pandits in his areas did

> not

> > > > about

> > > > > > it. I have detailed the procedure to him. I wonder why he

> still

> > > > > > harps on the matter sharing things uncharitably about me.

I

> > > have

> > > > > > been providing him support and guidance to the best of my

> > > > abilities

> > > > > > and if he still misunderstands me, I can't help it; nor

do I

> > > have

> > > > > > the time to brood on that.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Please for the benefit of the forum, let us end this here.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > If Shri Lalith is not willing to end the matter,

> Mohanraaamji -

> > > I

> > > > > > implore you ....you at least end this exchange with him.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Blessed be.

> > > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > vedic astrology, " mohanraaam "

> > > > > > <mohanraaam@ > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Lalith:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Can you post in the forum Panditji's mail where you

claim

> he

> > > > has

> > > > > > > written he is a VVIP? This must be a blatant lie. Pandit

> > > > > > > Dakshinamoorthiji is not one to write like that! This

is a

> > > > > > blatant

> > > > > > > lie! I am sure. If Panditji has really claimed he is a

> VVIP,

> > > I

> > > > > > > will take back all that I have written to you.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > He has never given his phone no. to anyone in this

list.

> So,

> > > > what

> > > > > > > special previlege do you think you have got you faggot?

> Does

> > > he

> > > > > > not

> > > > > > > have a right for his own privacy?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > What will happen to his sanity if he starts getting your

> > > > idiotic

> > > > > > > phone calls on top of your stupid mails?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > He would have repeatedly written to you only in reply.

You

> > > > would

> > > > > > > have pestered him and he would have replied. You idiot

> have

> > > > > > failed

> > > > > > > to understand the decency of an astrologer when he has

> hinted

> > > > at

> > > > > > > your problems diplomatically, and now you claim " he

> changed

> > > > > lines "

> > > > > > > as if he is a cheat!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I do not know how long you are associated with this

> > > > > > group....... Ask

> > > > > > > any forum member here whether Panditji is a person who

> > > changes

> > > > > > tack

> > > > > > > like that. In fact he is one of the more honest

> astrologers

> > > who

> > > > > > > admits that he has made a mistake if ever he has made

one!

> > > But,

> > > > > > you

> > > > > > > are almost putting words into his mouth, and depicting

as

> if

> > > he

> > > > > > has

> > > > > > > failed in his predictions.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Truth to be told, Panditji would have felt no hope in

your

> > > > > > situation

> > > > > > > unless you change yourself; and he would not have seen

any

> > > > > > > possibility for that also. Hence he would have been at

a

> loss

> > > > of

> > > > > > > words as to what to do. Collaring an astrologer when he

is

> > > > trying

> > > > > > > to soothen you with some hopeful predictions is really

> rude.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Panditji is too senior and respected; otherwise, I

would

> have

> > > > > > > written to him directly regarding this matter and known

> what

> > > is

> > > > > > all

> > > > > > > this......But, believing an idiot like you and

enquiring

> with

> > > a

> > > > > > > senior astrologer is not possible.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I again challenge you......show us the mail where

Panditji

> > > > > claimed

> > > > > > > hs is VVIP......You liar.....know whom you are accusing!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Mohanraaam.- - In vedic astrology@ .

com, " litsol "

> > > > > > > <mishra.lalit@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > What to say u old man, U have lost power to

understand :

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I gave him my own resume, all my projects that i did,

> > > simply

> > > > > > gave

> > > > > > > him.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Now, I have all rights to call u " Idiot " . U r too

full

> of

> > > > > > > urself, A

> > > > > > > > blind man with heap of false EGO,what happened to me,

I

> > > > shared

> > > > > > > with u

> > > > > > > > and all, still u see, i m telling lies, m criminal.

> > > > Constantly

> > > > > u

> > > > > > r

> > > > > > > > advancing with ur poor logic and handful knowledge to

> blame

> > > > me

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > everything.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > So, you are here to advocate pandit ji, I have not

said

> a

> > > > > single

> > > > > > > word

> > > > > > > > against him and u are abusing me constantly, I have

> posted

> > > my

> > > > > > birth

> > > > > > > > details in the group: - 17 -08-1972, 08:15 PM at Rewa

> (M.P)

> > > > and

> > > > > > > sent to

> > > > > > > > pandit ji, if u r using that to tell there is some

> > > > debilitated

> > > > > > > planet,

> > > > > > > > not a strange for a man like u to play tricks.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I purchased a service, didn't complain any thing to

any

> > > one,

> > > > > > just

> > > > > > > asked

> > > > > > > > a phone no. to remove my doubts, It was my fault coz

the

> > > > Pandit

> > > > > > Ji

> > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > VVIP, it is his right to not to give me his phone and

i

> > > have

> > > > no

> > > > > > > rights.

> > > > > > > > stop it and don't try to be smart. Ok, i still

> compromised

> > > > and

> > > > > > > became

> > > > > > > > happy with the sound file, he sent to me after i

> informed

> > > him

> > > > > > > about my

> > > > > > > > difficulty on a portion of mantra. No problems, but i

> said,

> > > > > this

> > > > > > > created

> > > > > > > > a difference in between.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I m still not saying what pandit ji saw and what he

> didnt,

> > > > But

> > > > > > he

> > > > > > > mailed

> > > > > > > > me constantly saying, it was my bad karma of previous

> > > birth,

> > > > > > very

> > > > > > > normal

> > > > > > > > and very general, every second person w'd tell same,

but

> > > when

> > > > i

> > > > > > > informed

> > > > > > > > him about some spirit, he changed his line and said

he

> has

> > > > > > already

> > > > > > > seen

> > > > > > > > it, I agreed to this also, but i thought it's an

> important

> > > > > > > information,

> > > > > > > > better to keep it in the record, he denied to give

this

> > > also,

> > > > > > with

> > > > > > > no

> > > > > > > > reason. he said he wont give, still i was not

> complaining

> > > any

> > > > > > > thing,

> > > > > > > > just asked him once more for same prashna, he didn't

> tell

> > > any

> > > > > > > reason and

> > > > > > > > told that he is a VVIP, he wont give what he doesnt

> want. I

> > > > > > didn't

> > > > > > > > complain.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > And finally, He posted part of my mail to the group

> without

> > > > > > > informing

> > > > > > > > me, without seeking my consent and at the same time,

he

> > > didnt

> > > > > > > forget

> > > > > > > > accusing me that i will disclose his precious

> techniques in

> > > > the

> > > > > > > group,

> > > > > > > > mind u idiot, on the one hand he is doing same thing

> and on

> > > > the

> > > > > > > other he

> > > > > > > > accused me saying - i may do it, and who did that -

> Pandit

> > > > Ji ?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > And u are here to call me mad. U dont deserve any

> respect.

> > > > > There

> > > > > > > is no

> > > > > > > > value of ur Age and Experience, Yes, i should call u

> idiot.

> > > > You

> > > > > > > want to

> > > > > > > > twist ethics , u cant. u want to use a handful

> knowledge to

> > > > > twist

> > > > > > > > ethics, u cant.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I said something in general about Vedanga, or Vedic

> > > Granthas,

> > > > U

> > > > > > > poker,

> > > > > > > > entering into classification, definition.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > U want to challange me, for what ? instead of taking

the

> > > > > > challange

> > > > > > > or

> > > > > > > > trying to understand what i m saying, what i m sharing

> > > > openly,

> > > > > u

> > > > > > > keep

> > > > > > > > abusing me.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > U put me a lot of pain and insult, I dont know if a

> > > handfull

> > > > > > > knowledge

> > > > > > > > makes a man like u, Can u tell me where is Priya and

> can u

> > > > help

> > > > > > me

> > > > > > > > establish a contact with her, for what, i was craving

> whole

> > > > > > year,

> > > > > > > that u

> > > > > > > > cant, u wont. coz u r fake.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I cant write regards to u. Ok,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > vedic astrology, " mohanraaam "

> > > > > > <mohanraaam@ >

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Lalith:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > You have written " Panditji did not write about

spirits

> > > but

> > > > > you

> > > > > > > told

> > > > > > > > > him.... " But from what he has posted, he had already

> > > found

> > > > it

> > > > > > out

> > > > > > > > > and was not sharing it with you. He had suggested

> remedies

> > > > > > > > > inclusive of that which is more important. A person

of

> > > his

> > > > > > > stature

> > > > > > > > > need not try to " prove " his skills by giving

shocking

> > > > > > > predictions.

> > > > > > > > > Experts of his calibre definitely are very subtle.

In

> > > fact

> > > > the

> > > > > > > > > words " you have to balance your karma of previous

> lives "

> > > > that

> > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > claim he was harping on refers to this ghostly

> > > apparition.

> > > > In

> > > > > > > your

> > > > > > > > > half-baked brain, it did not strike; that is all.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Again, you claim that you are " helping " nature; and

> see

> > > the

> > > > > > > evidence

> > > > > > > > > you give for that......you have given all the

projects

> > > that

> > > > > > you

> > > > > > > did

> > > > > > > > > under somebody's resume to " help " him. Legally, my

> > > friend,

> > > > > you

> > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > not a helper but a " CRIMINAL " . No wonder with all

your

> > > lies

> > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > cannot share positive vibes with Panditji who never

> tells

> > > > > lies!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > You claim " shani " visited you; why don't you claim

> Lord

> > > > Shiva

> > > > > > > > > visited you! You are mad young man! If you had

really

> had

> > > > > > vision

> > > > > > > > > of Lord Shani it would have been shown in the

prashna

> > > chart

> > > > > > that

> > > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > are a Divine personality. You probably have

> debilitated

> > > > > > planets

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > your 9th house. You have delusions of spirituality.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > You have written " You do not differentiate

knowledge " ;

> > > but

> > > > > you

> > > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > > no rights to declassify what ancient people have

> > > classified

> > > > > > with

> > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > purpose. Vedangas, shaastras, all might be one for

> you;

> > > but

> > > > > > they

> > > > > > > > > have differnet purposes. Do not try to sit in

judgment

> > > over

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > wisdom of the great Seers and Saints who did tapasya

> > > before

> > > > > > > giving

> > > > > > > > > those wonderful shastras to us.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > You have said you have learnt some vedas to search

at

> > > your

> > > > > > > Brahmin

> > > > > > > > > roots. You have definitely not learnt under a

> competent

> > > > > person

> > > > > > or

> > > > > > > > > as usual, you have not imbibed the essence of the

> > > teachings

> > > > > > well.

> > > > > > > > > Vedas are oceanic and the little spec of knowledge

you

> > > have

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > does not qualify you to speak like this.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > " Hitham poorva aachaarya vaakyena " means " welfare

> comes

> > > by

> > > > > > > following

> > > > > > > > > the words of ancient Masters " is a known Dharma

> shastraic

> > > > > > > injunction.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > You can research on things, you can analyze things

> with

> > > an

> > > > > open

> > > > > > > > > mind; but do so with a reverential attitude and not

> with

> > > the

> > > > > > > > > assumption " that in India they did not spread

> knowledge,

> > > > > etc. "

> > > > > > > The

> > > > > > > > > saints have purposefully hidden some powerful

> knowledge

> > > > > > sources

> > > > > > > so

> > > > > > > > > that they are not misused by half-baked morons. You

> see,

> > > > > > knowing

> > > > > > > > > some part of vedas makes you think that you are

> qualified

> > > > to

> > > > > > > comment

> > > > > > > > > on that.....it is precisely to avoid such

calamities,

> > > that

> > > > > > > ancients

> > > > > > > > > hid powerful arts. Those arts in the hands of good

> > > persons

> > > > can

> > > > > > > > > benefit many, while they will become subjects of

> mockery

> > > in

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > hands of those who do not appreciate their Divinity.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > You have written " My Ego has made me angry " ...what

is

> > > there

> > > > > > young

> > > > > > > > > man? I got angry not because you attacked me or even

> > > > > Panditji;

> > > > > > > but

> > > > > > > > > because you have attacked this Divine Art and are

> > > > remorseless.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Please do not say that Shani spoke to you; you may

be

> put

> > > > > into

> > > > > > an

> > > > > > > > > asylum for Paronia, Delusional Disorder, schizoid

> > > > personality

> > > > > > > > > disorder, etc.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I sincerely apologize to the list for having

written

> such

> > > a

> > > > > > > personal

> > > > > > > > > mail in this list, but this man cannot go

unchallenged

> > > > after

> > > > > > he

> > > > > > > has

> > > > > > > > > attempted to malign Pandit Dakshinamoorthiji - a

noble

> > > soul

> > > > > > who

> > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > the pride of this group, and who I am sure - is

> > > considered

> > > > as

> > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > Blessing to this group by many members. I have

nothing

> > > > > > personal

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > this. Even if this person had called me an " idiot "

or

> > > even

> > > > in

> > > > > > > > > unparliamentary language, I would have forgiven

him;

> but

> > > his

> > > > > > > > > irreverential attitude towards astrology and

Panditji

> has

> > > > > > really

> > > > > > > put

> > > > > > > > > me off and prompted me in this exchange.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > No matter what he writes, I will not reply

henceforth.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Mohanraaam.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, " litsol "

> > > > mishra.lalit@

> > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Mohanraaam - Yogi,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Your are so angry, what causes anger, a hurt

ego...

> > > > nothing

> > > > > > > else.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Even u have addressed your mail to Mr. Abhishek,

> while

> > > > > > replying

> > > > > > > > > to me.

> > > > > > > > > > Pls. cool down.

> > > > > > > > > > I have told u about " P - Priya and Preeti ... " .

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > The first half part of ur findings is true, how

much

> > > > true,

> > > > > I

> > > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > > tell u

> > > > > > > > > > - " I knew two girls, whose name begins with 'P',

> one is

> > > > > > Preeti

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > other

> > > > > > > > > > is Priya " . right, I m not like u, i mean, a man

who

> is

> > > > > > caught

> > > > > > > up

> > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > abundance of EGO, have confidence to accept the

> truth

> > > > upto

> > > > > > > where

> > > > > > > > > it is

> > > > > > > > > > true.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Preeti is a Biotech student and she contacted me

> after

> > > > she

> > > > > > saw

> > > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > > profile in the net, She is taller than me and 9

yrs

> > > > younger

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > me,

> > > > > > > > > > still, wanted to proceed towards marriage, I

thought

> > > this

> > > > > > may

> > > > > > > look

> > > > > > > > > good

> > > > > > > > > > today but tomorrow may not, I asked her to not to

> > > contact

> > > > > me

> > > > > > > as i

> > > > > > > > > dont

> > > > > > > > > > think good prospects of togatherness, off cource,

> she

> > > w'd

> > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > > > discussed it in my home town, Rewa is not a big

> place

> > > and

> > > > > we

> > > > > > > all

> > > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > brahmins, so things gets spread, the

communication

> was

> > > > > > throuh

> > > > > > > net

> > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > few times through phone, pls. mind it, i have not

> seen

> > > her

> > > > > > > > > physically.

> > > > > > > > > > never met her physically. So, ur prashan chart

> skills

> > > > need

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > ne

> > > > > > > > > > refined, the basic is good, after a point and the

> > > > > > interprition

> > > > > > > > > that u do

> > > > > > > > > > is misleading. Ok.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Next is Priya, I liked this girl more, and felt

bad

> > > about

> > > > > > her,

> > > > > > > she

> > > > > > > > > is a

> > > > > > > > > > kind of girl, misguided by the peers and this age.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I never met her also, try to check in ur's prashna

> > > chart,

> > > > > She

> > > > > > > > > again met

> > > > > > > > > > me through Net, She gave her false introduction

like

> > > She

> > > > is

> > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > Software

> > > > > > > > > > Engineer, working with Mphasis, Bombay and about

to

> > > visit

> > > > > > > Germany,

> > > > > > > > > All

> > > > > > > > > > was wrong. She had a boy friend, once she refered

> to me

> > > > and

> > > > > > > then a

> > > > > > > > > > deviation came in her behaviro, As per priya he

> already

> > > > > > > proposed

> > > > > > > > > her,

> > > > > > > > > > but some disturbance between them came, He didn't

> > > belong

> > > > to

> > > > > > a

> > > > > > > good

> > > > > > > > > > family and of cheep type guy.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I was worried for her, I never wanted her to

spoil

> her

> > > > life

> > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > a such

> > > > > > > > > > type of guy, I tried to convince about the

meaning

> of

> > > > life

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > values of

> > > > > > > > > > our culture, She felt bad, and got angry, Once

what

> > > > > happened

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > still

> > > > > > > > > > unbelievable to me, let me put here, During my

daily

> > > > puja,

> > > > > I

> > > > > > > saw

> > > > > > > > > Shani

> > > > > > > > > > is coming to me and has occupied me, I have got

> divine

> > > > > > > protection

> > > > > > > > > form

> > > > > > > > > > lord Hanuman Ji, still, i could not call him for

> help,

> > > > what

> > > > > i

> > > > > > > > > could do

> > > > > > > > > > and i had no idea about a learned siddha, what

> happens

> > > > is,

> > > > > > in a

> > > > > > > > > minute

> > > > > > > > > > My frined Nirmesh called me from mumbai.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > My friend Nirmesh is a Sr, HR Manager with

Reliance

> > > > Retail,

> > > > > > he

> > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > his girl friend, in fact i played a role in

> > > reconcilation

> > > > of

> > > > > > > > > disturbance

> > > > > > > > > > between them so they were calling me, As Priya

told

> to

> > > > me,

> > > > > > she

> > > > > > > > > lives in

> > > > > > > > > > Bombay, I missed her, and thought to contact her,

I

> > > > wanted

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > write a

> > > > > > > > > > mail about me , a mail with all my emotions but

here

> > > > Saturn

> > > > > > > Played

> > > > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > role and in place of sending that emotionl mail to

> > > Priya,

> > > > I

> > > > > > > happen

> > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > post that mail in a , she and me both

> were

> > > > > > members,

> > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > > created that group to promote youngersters of my

> region

> > > > in

> > > > > > > software

> > > > > > > > > > industry, and my own personal mail was posted in

the

> > > > group,

> > > > > > My

> > > > > > > own

> > > > > > > > > > mistake, Pls. check, if u are referring to this

> > > incident.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > She became so angry on me, but what i could do,

all

> was

> > > > my

> > > > > > > mistake

> > > > > > > > > and i

> > > > > > > > > > lost her, I w'd like to tell u more, A friend of

me

> was

> > > > > > > jobless, I

> > > > > > > > > gave

> > > > > > > > > > him my own CV to put his name on the CV with all

my

> > > > > projects

> > > > > > > in his

> > > > > > > > > > name, Pls check in ur's prashna chart. How i help

> > > people.

> > > > > > Next

> > > > > > > day

> > > > > > > > > > after this incident, His birthday came, And the

> Priya

> > > > > > addressed

> > > > > > > > > him with

> > > > > > > > > > so much of respect, The guy, in place of showing a

> > > > respect

> > > > > > > towards

> > > > > > > > > me

> > > > > > > > > > for my help, commented on me, A cunning man, I

dont

> > > know

> > > > he

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > many

> > > > > > > > > > others have contributed more in widening the gap

in

> > > > between

> > > > > > me

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > Priya. I dont know if he is still in touch with

> her, or

> > > > all

> > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > planned

> > > > > > > > > > by them togather. I dont know anything.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I still dont know who this Priya was and where she

> > > lives

> > > > > in,

> > > > > > If

> > > > > > > > > she is a

> > > > > > > > > > girl or a game of those guys who wanted me to

look

> down

> > > > in

> > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Group. coz, when i started searching her, what i

> found

> > > > is,

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > mphasis

> > > > > > > > > > there is only one Priya Tiwari, who works with a

> BPO,

> > > she

> > > > > > was

> > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > Software Engineer and she never lived in Bombay,

She

> > > was

> > > > in

> > > > > > > Noida

> > > > > > > > > > itself. For ur satisfaction, I can post my mails

to

> HR

> > > > > > > department

> > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > Mphasis.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I dont know what happend to her, This BPO priya,

i

> also

> > > > > have

> > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > met

> > > > > > > > > > her, looks different than the other Priya whom i

was

> > > > > > searching.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > So, Dear old friend, Check ur Prashna Chart

skills

> more

> > > > and

> > > > > > > more,

> > > > > > > > > Baiscs

> > > > > > > > > > are correct, ur interpretition is quite wrong and

u

> > > have

> > > > > not

> > > > > > > got

> > > > > > > > > enough

> > > > > > > > > > experience in life to judge me and realities.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > whatever be is Vedanga or Shastra, I wanted to

let u

> > > know

> > > > > > every

> > > > > > > > > bit of

> > > > > > > > > > knowledge is divine and pavitra. Leave the

arrogance

> > > and

> > > > > > start

> > > > > > > > > doing

> > > > > > > > > > preperation for ur journey that u have to do in

near

> > > > future.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > If any one in the Group, can give light on this

> Priya's

> > > > > > case,

> > > > > > > coz

> > > > > > > > > i had

> > > > > > > > > > soft feelings for her despite all her lies, I w'd

be

> > > > > grateful

> > > > > > > > > otherwise

> > > > > > > > > > it's OK. Can u tell me how and where she is and

if

> she

> > > > > really

> > > > > > > > > exists,

> > > > > > > > > > and if any occult people can help me in

> establishing a

> > > > > > contact

> > > > > > > > > with her

> > > > > > > > > > if she really exists w'd be good for me. I w'd pay

> > > > whatever

> > > > > u

> > > > > > > > > demand.

> > > > > > > > > > Will any one take the challange ? i wont ask u

what

> u

> > > > cant

> > > > > > do,

> > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > > promise.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I didn't tell about Preeti and Priya to Pandit ji

it

> > > was

> > > > not

> > > > > > > > > necessary,

> > > > > > > > > > better if he w'd have told me sth about them, but

> > > Pandit

> > > > Ji

> > > > > > all

> > > > > > > > > the time

> > > > > > > > > > kept telling me about my Karmic Balance of the

> previous

> > > > > > birth,

> > > > > > > It

> > > > > > > > > was me

> > > > > > > > > > who gave him hints abot the spirit, Not he, he

didnt

> > > tell

> > > > > me

> > > > > > > any

> > > > > > > > > thing

> > > > > > > > > > about the spirit and when i told him about the

> spirti's

> > > > > > > storey, he

> > > > > > > > > said

> > > > > > > > > > he has seen it Prashan chart, tell me where i was

> > > wrong,

> > > > I

> > > > > > > asked

> > > > > > > > > him to

> > > > > > > > > > give me Prashan Chart, he denied.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear old friend, why u could not see in ur's

prashna

> > > > chart

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > Saturn

> > > > > > > > > > who got me occupied me during my Puja, I was not

> > > > sleeping,

> > > > > I

> > > > > > > saw

> > > > > > > > > him

> > > > > > > > > > with open eyes.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Pls. check ur's prashna chart and I w'd request

Mr.

> > > Rafal

> > > > to

> > > > > > > > > interefere

> > > > > > > > > > and tell me about Priya, coz, i m having some

pain,

> I

> > > > dont

> > > > > > know

> > > > > > > > > anything

> > > > > > > > > > , any truth of Priya Tiwari. I have her

photograpgh

> > > that

> > > > > she

> > > > > > > sent

> > > > > > > > > to me

> > > > > > > > > > which differs from the Priya whom i discovered in

> > > mphasis.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Will any one come to help me ?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology@ .

com, " mohanraaam "

> > > > > > > <mohanraaam@ >

> > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Abhishek:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Know the difference between shastraas and the

> > > > > > > vedaangas... ..you

> > > > > > > > > > > think an astrologer and a yogi like me would

not

> have

> > > > > > known

> > > > > > > all

> > > > > > > > > > > these! siksha, kalpam, chandas, mimamsa,nruktam

> and

> > > > > > Jyotisam

> > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > > the vedangas. Don't confuse the 18 shastras or

> the 64

> > > > > > mighty

> > > > > > > arts

> > > > > > > > > > > with vedanga. You are shallow young man but are

> > > trying

> > > > to

> > > > > > > pass

> > > > > > > > > > > judgments on great branches of knowledge and

great

> > > > > persons

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > knowledge. I am 86 years old and have lived a

full

> > > life

> > > > > > with

> > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > > happy wife and 4 intelligent, well-settled

> children.

> > > > Not a

> > > > > > > > > > > frustrated unmarried luckless youngman like you!

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Whatever you said to Panditji...I do not know

> because

> > > > he

> > > > > > has

> > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > > divulged the complete exchange inthe forum...I

> think

> > > he

> > > > > > > should

> > > > > > > > > > > probably do that to expose your arrogance and

> idiocy

> > > > > > levels

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > this

> > > > > > > > > > > group......

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > You may say that you did not have affairs -

then

> what

> > > > do

> > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > tell of

> > > > > > > > > > > a thing when you go after ladies and get heart-

> broken

> > > > > when

> > > > > > > they

> > > > > > > > > > > reject your proposal? You could not proceed to

the

> > > > level

> > > > > > of a

> > > > > > > > > > > mutual affair because they did not entertain

you

> at

> > > all!

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > You have not commented on my finding about

Priya/

> > > > > > > preeti.....I am

> > > > > > > > > > > sure it is correct! And definitely your

failures

> in

> > > > this

> > > > > > > regard

> > > > > > > > > > > would have been a butt of jokes in your circle.

I

> can

> > > > bet

> > > > > > on

> > > > > > > > > that.

> > > > > > > > > > > But definitely you will come out with your own

> > > versions

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > deny

> > > > > > > > > this.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Did you tell all this to Guruji? I am sure you

> would

> > > > not

> > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > > > > shared it in this light - but mark my words, he

> would

> > > > > have

> > > > > > > found

> > > > > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > > > > out definitely! Only thing is - he is too

decent

> to

> > > > hurt

> > > > > > > others

> > > > > > > > > > > unnecessarily.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Your posts are not clear....you are saying this

> and

> > > > that

> > > > > > > without

> > > > > > > > > > > actually commenting on what others have written.

> > > Don't

> > > > > pass

> > > > > > > > > > > judgement on astrology or its

efficacy.Astrology

> is a

> > > > > basic

> > > > > > > > > > > technique that one learns before predicting -

but

> > > > advanced

> > > > > > > > > > > astrologers read far more into charts than what

> they

> > > > > > indicate

> > > > > > > > > from

> > > > > > > > > > > conventional astrological classics - it is an

> applied

> > > > > > field

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > horoscope is just a focus and an accessory tool

> for

> > > > > > > prediction in

> > > > > > > > > > > the hands of the greatest masters of this field.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Definitely you are not one to comment on the

need

> of

> > > > > > > astrological

> > > > > > > > > > > research without knowing the basic vedic

> etiquettes

> > > of

> > > > > > > behaving

> > > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > > learned astrologers!

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Definitely Guruji's wise counsel have been

> useless to

> > > > > you -

> > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > > buffalo will cherish only the muddy waters -

will

> it

> > > > know

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > differnece between Ganges and the gutter?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > One suggestion young man - try to go into

Guruji's

> > > mails

> > > > > > > > > carefully

> > > > > > > > > > > and quietly. His words are worth their weight

in

> gold

> > > > > > > usually.

> > > > > > > > > > > Many have benefitted by his counsel - do not

try

> to

> > > look

> > > > > > > > > for " your

> > > > > > > > > > > own version of truths " from his writings. If

you

> do

> > > > that,

> > > > > > it

> > > > > > > is a

> > > > > > > > > > > waste of whatever money you paid Panditji.

> Understand

> > > > his

> > > > > > > > > counsel,

> > > > > > > > > > > try to follow them, and you will do fine. But,

> stop

> > > > > > > insulting and

> > > > > > > > > > > passing unnecessary remarks on astrology and

need

> for

> > > > > > > > > astrological

> > > > > > > > > > > development. Some self-seeking astrologers -

> > > > capitalizing

> > > > > > on

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > craze of Indian public for " scientific "

> > > > research, " modern

> > > > > > > > > research

> > > > > > > > > > > into old classics " etc, have written volumes

about

> > > the

> > > > > > need

> > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > > evolution of astrology whereas the reality is

> those

> > > who

> > > > > > > follow

> > > > > > > > > > > ancient classical wisdom have proved more

> efficient

> > > in

> > > > > all

> > > > > > > these

> > > > > > > > > > > predictive techniques than those " researchers " .

> > > > Parampara

> > > > > > > has its

> > > > > > > > > > > own significance. You still eat through your

mouth

> > > > though

> > > > > > > times

> > > > > > > > > > > have changed (I am assuming here; or are you

> eating

> > > > > > through

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > other end for novelty sake?). In the same way,

> nature

> > > > has

> > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > > changed only certain outer manifestations have

> > > changed.

> > > > > > Only

> > > > > > > > > minor

> > > > > > > > > > > modification of interpretaions are needed to

suit

> > > > > > > predictions to

> > > > > > > > > > > modern day life and definitely there are not

much

> > > gaps.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Mohanraaam.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology@ .

com, " litsol "

> > > > > > > mishra.lalit@

> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mohanraaam,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > I cant say u " Idiot " and wont speak to u using

> > > level

> > > > of

> > > > > > > ur's

> > > > > > > > > > > language,

> > > > > > > > > > > > ok, Pls. check ur's Prashna Skills 100 times

and

> > > > > > discover

> > > > > > > more

> > > > > > > > > > > about me.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > And my love affairs, I had no affair with any

> one,

> > > > > > right,

> > > > > > > check

> > > > > > > > > > > it in

> > > > > > > > > > > > ur Prashan Chart, however, when marriage came

> in my

> > > > > > mind, i

> > > > > > > > > came in

> > > > > > > > > > > > touch with girls, liked two or three of them,

> ok,

> > > > they

> > > > > > > didn't

> > > > > > > > > like

> > > > > > > > > > > me,

> > > > > > > > > > > > It happens. It was me who beforehand informed

> > > > Panditji

> > > > > as

> > > > > > > > > inputs

> > > > > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > > > required to reach somewhere.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > See, i can say, the basic finding of ur

prashan

> > > chart

> > > > > > like

> > > > > > > > > break

> > > > > > > > > > > ups is

> > > > > > > > > > > > true, but is little it misleading too, as no

> brak

> > > up

> > > > in

> > > > > > > sense

> > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > > break-up happened as no affiar even started,

> > > > sometimes,

> > > > > u

> > > > > > > > > should

> > > > > > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > > > > careful more in reaching ur conclusions,

that's

> why

> > > i

> > > > > > say,

> > > > > > > more

> > > > > > > > > > > and more

> > > > > > > > > > > > remains to discover, It's - " Apaurusheya "

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Well, can u tell, in the storey, u posted in

> group,

> > > > > > where

> > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > " P-Priya, Preti etc.. " ? I will be more than

> happy

> > > to

> > > > > > see

> > > > > > > ur

> > > > > > > > > > > findings,

> > > > > > > > > > > > What Guruji said was completely different

from

> u, I

> > > > > > > discussed

> > > > > > > > > > > with him

> > > > > > > > > > > > why i dont get proposals from girls even

having

> > > > average

> > > > > > > looks,

> > > > > > > > > He

> > > > > > > > > > > said

> > > > > > > > > > > > to me, You change utr attitude and consider

such

> > > > > > > proposals, i

> > > > > > > > > > > further

> > > > > > > > > > > > asked him is it a big expectation to find a

nice

> > > > sweet

> > > > > > > person,

> > > > > > > > > i

> > > > > > > > > > > dont

> > > > > > > > > > > > think a model or actress but a girl with

little

> > > good

> > > > > > looks

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > good

> > > > > > > > > > > > nature, even it is difficult, if it is

> difficult, i

> > > > was

> > > > > > > asking

> > > > > > > > > him

> > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > describing him about me, my needs, my

thoughts.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > and on what u did write - " And your posts

about

> > > > > > astrology

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > your

> > > > > > > > > > > > arguments with Shri. Abhishek also clearly

> protray

> > > > your

> > > > > > > idiocy!

> > > > > > > > > > > You are

> > > > > > > > > > > > asking why Astrology

> > > > > > > > > > > > alone is Divine and why not Engineering and

> other

> > > > > things?

> > > > > > > > > Idiot -

> > > > > > > > > > > > Astrology is a " Vedanga " a direct limb of the

> Vedas

> > > > and

> > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > > > Engineering. .....You do not know all this

> > > > > > classifications

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > > > entering into debate on all these. Do not try

to

> > > > > comment

> > > > > > on

> > > > > > > > > > > > subjects without knowing them "

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Pls study " Shulb Sutras " ok, U will find,

> > > Engineering

> > > > > is

> > > > > > > there,

> > > > > > > > > > > > Mathmatics is there, Ayourveda as medical

> science

> > > is

> > > > > > there.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > You are showing u r too full of urself,

> somtimes it

> > > > > > > happens to

> > > > > > > > > few

> > > > > > > > > > > > people.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > vedic-

> astrology@grou ps.com, " mohanraaam "

> > > > > > > > > <mohanraaam@ >

> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalith:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > You " demanded " Panditji's phone no. and he

> > > > > > refused....you

> > > > > > > > > think

> > > > > > > > > > > he

> > > > > > > > > > > > > has no right to do that? It is his

> privacy...when

> > > > you

> > > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > > been

> > > > > > > > > > > > > pestering him over email how much more

> > > > irresponsible

> > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > would

> > > > > > > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > > > > > > been if he had given his phone no.? You

think

> > > > > Panditji

> > > > > > > has

> > > > > > > > > time

> > > > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > spend on worthless brats like you who think

> the

> > > > world

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > revolving

> > > > > > > > > > > > > around them? He has sent you an audio

> recording

> > > of

> > > > the

> > > > > > > > > mantra -

> > > > > > > > > > > > > what else you need to know? Is the Great

Man

> your

> > > > > > slave

> > > > > > > or

> > > > > > > > > what

> > > > > > > > > > > > > that you can demand everything that you

want

> from

> > > > > him?

> > > > > > > He is

> > > > > > > > > too

> > > > > > > > > > > > > proud for that!

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > You have no right to expect anything except

> > > service

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > your

> > > > > > > > > > > > > payment - assuming you have made some

payment

> to

> > > > > > Guruji!

> > > > > > > Do

> > > > > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > > > > > think you have bought him just because you

> asked

> > > his

> > > > > > > > > service? I

> > > > > > > > > > > am

> > > > > > > > > > > > > sure you would have written something silly

> like

> > > > this

> > > > > > > (your

> > > > > > > > > > > current

> > > > > > > > > > > > > post is in itself silly) that annoyed

> Panditji!

> > > You

> > > > > > say

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > matter

> > > > > > > > > > > > > is over - but you keep on saying things as

if

> > > > > Panditji

> > > > > > > has

> > > > > > > > > done a

> > > > > > > > > > > > > mistake and you are justified.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > And your posts about astrology in your

> arguments

> > > > with

> > > > > > > Shri.

> > > > > > > > > > > Abhishek

> > > > > > > > > > > > > also clearly protray your idiocy! You are

> asking

> > > why

> > > > > > > > > Astrology

> > > > > > > > > > > > > alone is Divine and why not Engineering and

> other

> > > > > > things?

> > > > > > > > > Idiot -

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrology is a " Vedanga " a direct limb of

the

> > > Vedas

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Engineering. .....You do not know all this

> > > > > > classifications

> > > > > > > > > and are

> > > > > > > > > > > > > entering into debate on all these. Do not

try

> to

> > > > > > comment

> > > > > > > on

> > > > > > > > > > > > > subjects without knowing them.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > I just checked up a prashna chart to see

what

> > > sort

> > > > of

> > > > > > > person

> > > > > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > > > > > are.....From this, try to understand what

all

> > > > > > astrology

> > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > capable

> > > > > > > > > > > > > of.....

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Last year you would have proposed to a

Lady -

> and

> > > > your

> > > > > > > > > failure

> > > > > > > > > > > was a

> > > > > > > > > > > > > widely circulated joke in your social

> > > circle.....is

> > > > > it

> > > > > > > true

> > > > > > > > > or

> > > > > > > > > > > not?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Just understand - people have made fun of

you

> > > only

> > > > > > > because of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > your " loser " attitude. You are childish in

> your

> > > > > > attitude;

> > > > > > > > > this is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > one reason why women in your life are

running

> > > away

> > > > > > from

> > > > > > > you.

> > > > > > > > > > > Guruji

> > > > > > > > > > > > > has just hinted on love failures in his

post -

> > > but

> > > > my

> > > > > > > prashna

> > > > > > > > > > > > > clearly indicates they have rejected you

> outright

> > > > > after

> > > > > > > > > initial

> > > > > > > > > > > > > interactions with you because you have

> > > > been " chasing "

> > > > > > > them

> > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > troubling them with undiplomatic messages

> > > > > > persistently.

> > > > > > > Your

> > > > > > > > > last

> > > > > > > > > > > > > serious connection when the lady rejected

your

> > > > > > proposal -

> > > > > > > her

> > > > > > > > > > > name

> > > > > > > > > > > > > is likely to be in the " pa " varga (preeti,

> Priya,

> > > > > etc.

> > > > > > > any of

> > > > > > > > > > > these -

> > > > > > > > > > > > > you may think I have not found the right

> name -

> > > but

> > > > > > > knowing

> > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > initial word of a person about whom I know

> > > nothing

> > > > is

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > itself

> > > > > > > > > > > > > difficult - and no amount of research in

> > > scientific

> > > > > > > > > astrology can

> > > > > > > > > > > > > give the exact name! Don't think

> > > your " researches "

> > > > > will

> > > > > > > > > > > > > automatically pave the way to find the name

> and

> > > > > glorify

> > > > > > > > > > > astrology -

> > > > > > > > > > > > > because that is not possible!)

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Now do you understand what an astrologer is

> > > capable

> > > > > of!

> > > > > > > > > Guruji is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > too decent to insult you by writing like

> this -

> > > > > > > definitely he

> > > > > > > > > > > would

> > > > > > > > > > > > > have found out all these. He would have

> > > counselled

> > > > > you

> > > > > > > about

> > > > > > > > > > > change

> > > > > > > > > > > > > of attitude mainly regarding this....you

would

> > > not

> > > > > > have

> > > > > > > got

> > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > hint. Yet in message after message you are

> > > > justifying

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > projecting as if your grievance is genuine.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Heights of arrogance - thinking you have the

> > > right

> > > > to

> > > > > > > > > disturb a

> > > > > > > > > > > > > learned senior astrologer as and when you

> want! I

> > > am

> > > > > > > > > associated

> > > > > > > > > > > > > with Panditji for so long and yet I do not

> have

> > > his

> > > > > > > mobile

> > > > > > > > > no. do

> > > > > > > > > > > > > you know that? He has email id and he is

very

> > > > prompt

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > his

> > > > > > > > > > > replies

> > > > > > > > > > > > > through that. Do you know anything of that

> great

> > > > man

> > > > > > or

> > > > > > > his

> > > > > > > > > daily

> > > > > > > > > > > > > schedules? He has not merely one client

like

> you -

> > >

> > > > but

> > > > > > > > > thosands

> > > > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > admirers, students, disciples, and clients

all

> > > over

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > world. If

> > > > > > > > > > > > > all start calling Guruji will he ever have

> time

> > > for

> > > > > > > himself?

> > > > > > > > > That

> > > > > > > > > > > > > is why he is not giving the mobile. Your

post

> > > > speaks

> > > > > > as

> > > > > > > if

> > > > > > > > > he is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > hiding himself.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > It is probably his mistake that he is

helping

> out

> > > > > > people

> > > > > > > like

> > > > > > > > > > > you -

> > > > > > > > > > > > > the great man does not differentiate much

and

> > > tries

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > help

> > > > > > > > > out

> > > > > > > > > > > > > suffering people even if they are

undeserving.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Try to change your attitude for your own

good.

> > > > Improve

> > > > > > > > > yourself

> > > > > > > > > > > > > before trying to comment on great fields

like

> > > > > > astrology,

> > > > > > > > > about

> > > > > > > > > > > which

> > > > > > > > > > > > > you do not know even a speck. There are no

> gaps in

> > > > > > > > > astrological

> > > > > > > > > > > > > knowledge. Enough knowledge has been

> documented

> > > as

> > > > > > Shri.

> > > > > > > > > Potti

> > > > > > > > > > > has

> > > > > > > > > > > > > written in his post.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Mohanraaam.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > .vedic-

> astrology@grou ps.com, " litsol "

> > > > > > > > > > > > > mishra.lalit@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear primusjyotish,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are right, in fact differences

begane,

> when

> > > i

> > > > > > asked

> > > > > > > > > Pandit

> > > > > > > > > > > Ji's

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > phone nos to communicate to him, he

refused

> to

> > > > give

> > > > > > his

> > > > > > > > > nos, I

> > > > > > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > surprised, being a client, paying for the

> > > > > > consultation

> > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > clear

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > communication is required, so at least a

> > > > > > communication

> > > > > > > over

> > > > > > > > > > > phone

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > should happen, It was refused, he

> recommened a

> > > > > > mantra,

> > > > > > > i

> > > > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > > > > clear

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > on it's pronunciation, the rerequest to

tell

> > > right

> > > > > > > > > > > pronunciation

> > > > > > > > > > > > > over

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > phone was also refused, then a copy of

> charts

> > > > made

> > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > refused.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I didnt come to group for so many

refusals.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > And there were two contradictory

> explanations ,

> > > > the

> > > > > > > timing

> > > > > > > > > > > given

> > > > > > > > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > very wide for an event - one year and it

was

> > > said

> > > > > > that

> > > > > > > it's

> > > > > > > > > > > > > conditional

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > too, I was not understanding what to

> conclude

> > > and

> > > > > > then

> > > > > > > > > pandit

> > > > > > > > > > > Ji

> > > > > > > > > > > > > posted

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > my private communication partly in the

> group.

> > > > Later,

> > > > > > > > > pandit ji

> > > > > > > > > > > > > provided

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > me sound files of the mantras, ok, my

> confusion

> > > on

> > > > > > > > > > > pronunciation

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > removed.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, it is over, and i dont want to

discuss

> it

> > > > > > further.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic-

> astrology@grou ps.com, " Jyotish

> > > > > > > > > Volunteers "

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <primusjyotishi@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One would not consult a doctor for his

> > > physical

> > > > > > > ailments

> > > > > > > > > or a

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > psychiatrist for his mental ailments

> through

> > > > > > > internet.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps this is why many like Sri K.N.

Rao

> > > > > strongly

> > > > > > > > > recommend

> > > > > > > > > > > > > against

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > seeking solutions to serious matters via

> > > > internet

> > > > > > > and to

> > > > > > > > > use

> > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > time

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tested procedure of face-to-face, in-

> person

> > > > > > > consultation.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Convenience gets in the way and causes

> more

> > > pain

> > > > > > > > > ultimately,

> > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > our

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > need to get the answer here and now,

> > > > > > > unfortunately ...

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic-

> > > astrology@grou ps.com, " litsol "

> > > > > > > > > > > mishra.lalit@

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pandit Ji,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I bought a service and had a private

> > > > > > communication,

> > > > > > > > > it's at

> > > > > > > > > > > > > first

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sight

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrong for u to post any part of

private

> > > > > > > communication

> > > > > > > > > > > without

> > > > > > > > > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > consent.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > U cant imagine anything solely at ur

> end,

> > > if

> > > > i

> > > > > > > myself

> > > > > > > > > gave

> > > > > > > > > > > u

> > > > > > > > > > > > > hints

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of a

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > possible obstacle due to spirit, how

i m

> > > > going

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > fear

> > > > > > > > > some

> > > > > > > > > > > > > thing

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > other. This should not be basis of not

> > > > providing

> > > > > > > > > > > infomation.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are at advanced level, which is

> > > realized

> > > > by

> > > > > > > many

> > > > > > > > > that's

> > > > > > > > > > > > > why u

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > being contacted, but that u r into

> deciding

> > > > > > > everything

> > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > profession one

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sided, can not be justified.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Though, i wanted chart for keeping in

my

> > > > > > records,

> > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > no

> > > > > > > > > > > > > doubts on

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > u,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ur apporach makes me think otherwise.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In any profession, transparency is

key

> to

> > > > gain

> > > > > > > one's

> > > > > > > > > faith

> > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that u

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > didn't bother this, on the basis of ur

> > > > advanced

> > > > > > > level u

> > > > > > > > > > > pls.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > dont

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > justify what is incorrect, it's a

pity

> that

> > > u

> > > > > > make

> > > > > > > ur

> > > > > > > > > mood

> > > > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > post

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > private communication and at the same

> time,

> > > > in

> > > > > ur

> > > > > > > > > reply to

> > > > > > > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > private

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mail id, u accused me that i can post

ur

> > > > > advanced

> > > > > > > > > > > technique in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > group, I dont know how to react.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's a clear contradiction, I was

> > > > interested

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > final

> > > > > > > > > > > > > outcome

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which is chart, i should know that,

and

> not

> > > > in

> > > > > > ur's

> > > > > > > > > > > technique

> > > > > > > > > > > > > but u

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > made it a public issue instread of

> giving

> > > > same

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > me.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why development of ancient knowledge

has

> > > come

> > > > > to

> > > > > > an

> > > > > > > > > end is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > because

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this fear which i dont know why some

> > > > > knowledgable

> > > > > > > > > people

> > > > > > > > > > > like u

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > insttalled within.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wish to assure u that ur respect is

> no way

> > > > > > > > > corroborated

> > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > intact in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my views, i m also thankful to u for

the

> > > > > > remedies

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > mantras u

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > provided

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to me, even if that dont work, i will

> have

> > > > same

> > > > > > > respect

> > > > > > > > > > > for u

> > > > > > > > > > > > > but u

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > completely wrong at ur part in ur

> dealings.

> > > > > Pls.

> > > > > > > check

> > > > > > > > > ur

> > > > > > > > > > > > > dasha and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > antardasha, something wrong somewhere.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic-

> > > > > > > > > astrology@grou ps.com, " dakshinastrologer "

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <dakshinastrologer@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am posting an extract of the

> > > interaction

> > > > > > > between

> > > > > > > > > myself

> > > > > > > > > > > > > and one

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this list members who wanted a

> prediction

> > > > > from

> > > > > > > me. I

> > > > > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > > > > > > given

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > him

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > counselling based on his horoscope

and

> > > also

> > > > > > > based on

> > > > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > > > > prashna

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > chart. Marital chart showed marital

> > > delays

> > > > and

> > > > > > > > > problem

> > > > > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > > > > love

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > matters which he has already

> experienced.

> > > > The

> > > > > > > prashna

> > > > > > > > > > > chart

> > > > > > > > > > > > > showed

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the possibility of " Paisacha baadha "

> > > > (trouble

> > > > > > > due to

> > > > > > > > > > > ghostly

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > entities that block happiness in the

> > > > family).

> > > > > > I

> > > > > > > had

> > > > > > > > > taken

> > > > > > > > > > > > > this

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > matter into account and not wanting

to

> > > > scare

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > member

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unnecessarily, I had not divulged

the

> > > > matter

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > him.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Instead, I

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > suggested beeja mantras to

counteract

> > > that

> > > > > > > effect and

> > > > > > > > > > > also

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > suggested " Sumangali Pooja " to be

> > > > performed.

> > > > > > He

> > > > > > > later

> > > > > > > > > > > came

> > > > > > > > > > > > > back to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me and asked about the ghostly

events

> > > > himself

> > > > > > > > > because his

> > > > > > > > > > > > > family

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > members have had visitations from

that

> > > > > entity.

> > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > replied

> > > > > > > > > > > back

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > saying that I have already taken

that

> > > > factor

> > > > > > into

> > > > > > > > > account

> > > > > > > > > > > > > while

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > giving my suggestions.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The prashna chart showed that the

> entity

> > > is

> > > > > > > likely to

> > > > > > > > > > > leave

> > > > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Earth Plane by this year end and so

it

> > > > cannot

> > > > > > > trouble

> > > > > > > > > > > him any

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > longer. So, based on that and also

> based

> > > on

> > > > > his

> > > > > > > > > > > horoscope,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > having faith in the remedies I had

> > > > suggested,

> > > > > > I

> > > > > > > had

> > > > > > > > > > > predicted

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > possibility of marriage in Feb 2008

> or in

> > > > > 2009.

> > > > > > > > > Actually,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > dasa-

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bhukti and transit influences are

> quite

> > > > tough

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > contradictory

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this event and I had taken so many

> > > factors

> > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > balanced/counter-

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > balanced so many possibilities and

had

> > > > > > predicted

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > date as

> > > > > > > > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Benediction; let the marriage

happen

> in

> > > Feb

> > > > > > > 2008! I

> > > > > > > > > had

> > > > > > > > > > > even

> > > > > > > > > > > > > gone

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to the extent of suggesting attitude

> > > > > > modification

> > > > > > > > > (he may

> > > > > > > > > > > > > not get

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wife of his expectations) for the

> > > marriage

> > > > to

> > > > > > > > > happen; or

> > > > > > > > > > > > > else it

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > might even be denied.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, the member has been persisting

> about

> > > > > > > sharing the

> > > > > > > > > > > prashna

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > chart

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with him. I had given him broad

hints

> > > about

> > > > > > why I

> > > > > > > > > though

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Paisacha

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > baadha was there for him; but he

> insists

> > > > that

> > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > share the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > prashna

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > chart and give the complete details

to

> > > him,

> > > > > or

> > > > > > > else

> > > > > > > > > I am

> > > > > > > > > > > > > unfair!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reservation regarding this is that

> > > prashna

> > > > is

> > > > > > an

> > > > > > > > > advanced

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > application and sharing its

techniques

> > > > > offhand

> > > > > > > may be

> > > > > > > > > > > > > confusing

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > may lead the native into reading

too

> much

> > > > > into

> > > > > > > each

> > > > > > > > > > > prashna

> > > > > > > > > > > > > chart

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and fear paisacha baadha when

infact

> it

> > > > might

> > > > > > > not be

> > > > > > > > > > > there

> > > > > > > > > > > > > at all!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He does not understand me and is

> getting

> > > at

> > > > me

> > > > > > > > > prompting

> > > > > > > > > > > me

> > > > > > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > write

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mail after mail and I am at my

> patience's

> > > > > end!

> > > > > > > If I

> > > > > > > > > spend

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pointless

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > time debating like this with one

> person

> > > how

> > > > > > can I

> > > > > > > > > serve

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > others.....Why does not this member

> > > > > understand

> > > > > > > this?

> > > > > > > > > Not

> > > > > > > > > > > > > sharing

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sensitive prashna charts is a

hallowed

> > > > > > > > > tradition... ...Am

> > > > > > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > justified in my action when I have

> acted

> > > in

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > best

> > > > > > > > > > > > > interests of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the member?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am posting the latest exchange

> between

> > > us

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > your

> > > > > > > > > > > > > reference. I

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > request those who are knowledgeable

in

> > > > > > authentic

> > > > > > > > > prashna

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > traditions

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to write to the member (He is the

> person

> > > > who

> > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > cutting

> > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pasting

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the Garga Hora in this list)

telling

> him

> > > > that

> > > > > > I

> > > > > > > am

> > > > > > > > > > > justified

> > > > > > > > > > > > > in my

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > stand, and I am doing it in the best

> > > > > > interests.

> > > > > > > He

> > > > > > > > > does

> > > > > > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > understand the danger of

maintaining

> the

> > > > > > prashna

> > > > > > > > > chart

> > > > > > > > > > > > > indicating

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > paisacha baadha which is

> inauspicious! I

> > > am

> > > > > > > pained

> > > > > > > > > by his

> > > > > > > > > > > > > words

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like " Your are hiding something;

> hiding

> > > > > things

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > not a

> > > > > > > > > > > sign

> > > > > > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fairness " etc. It is almost like

> accusing

> > > > me

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > being a

> > > > > > > > > > > > > cheat!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > he comment on my professionalism; I

am

> > > > acting

> > > > > > as

> > > > > > > per

> > > > > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > professional

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ethics; why is he - a novice

imputing

> > > > motives

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > me

> > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > commenting

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on my professionalism? Is this what

an

> > > > > > astrologer

> > > > > > > > > gets

> > > > > > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > > > > his

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > service?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Below is the extract....

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---

-----

> ----

> > > --

> > > > --

> > > > > -

> > > > > > --

> > > > > > > ----

> > > > > > > > > ----

> > > > > > > > > > > ----

> > > > > > > > > > > > > -----

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri. Lalith Mishra:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unnecessary openness in the name of

> > > > frankness

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > bane of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > our

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > society now-a-days. Will you go out

in

> > > the

> > > > > > nude

> > > > > > > on

> > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > public

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > roads

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just to prove you have nothing to

> hide?

> > > > Asking

> > > > > > > > > advanced

> > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > unique

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > predictive techniques of a

practising

> > > > > > > professional

> > > > > > > > > > > > > persistently

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > even

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > after he has denied access to that

> > > > knowledge

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > very

> > > > > > > > > > > rude .

> > > > > > > > > > > > > The

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > access to that knowledge was denied

> > > because

> > > > > it

> > > > > > > can be

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > misinterpreted

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and if you post that " technique " in

> the

> > > VA

> > > > > > list,

> > > > > > > many

> > > > > > > > > > > other

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > members

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will get anxious (just as some

members

> > > are

> > > > > > > wondering

> > > > > > > > > > > what is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrong

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with their horoscopes with the

Garga

> Hora

> > > > > > > posting of

> > > > > > > > > > > yours!)

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What do I have to gain by

withholding

> > > > > > > information? I

> > > > > > > > > am

> > > > > > > > > > > too

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > advanced in my profession to be

taking

> > > > advice

> > > > > > > from

> > > > > > > > > people

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regarding

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what is the professional way of

> handling

> > > my

> > > > > > > clients.

> > > > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > > > > > > no

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > malefic intentions, and your

accusing

> me

> > > of

> > > > > > being

> > > > > > > > > unfair

> > > > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > rude

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fact each of your mails contains

> > > something

> > > > or

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > other).

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can assure you only one thing - I

> have

> > > > > acted

> > > > > > > in the

> > > > > > > > > > > best of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > intentions.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am posting this in the VA list so

> that

> > > > other

> > > > > > > > > learned

> > > > > > > > > > > > > members

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > might

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > put some wisdom into you (I have

> failed

> > > in

> > > > > > this

> > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > > > > > repeated

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > replies to you).

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blessed be.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Lalit Mishra, Noida " mlalit@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Res. Pandit Ji,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On the one hand , I m thankful to

you

> for

> > > > all

> > > > > > ur

> > > > > > > > > analysis

> > > > > > > > > > > > > and I

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > follow ur instructions but on the

> other I

> > > > > must

> > > > > > > say

> > > > > > > > > don't

> > > > > > > > > > > > > seem fair

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > enough in ur professional approach.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hiding things is not a sign of

> fairness.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If I knew astrology, perhapse I w'd

> not

> > > > have

> > > > > > > asked u

> > > > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > > such

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > simple

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > things or charts, required to keep

in

> my

> > > > > > > records. My

> > > > > > > > > > > level

> > > > > > > > > > > > > is not

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > constraint for u to share important

> > > charts,

> > > > if

> > > > > > > > > tomorrow I

> > > > > > > > > > > > > need to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > contact u for sth, how I w'd do

> without

> > > any

> > > > > > > > > reference.

> > > > > > > > > > > If I

> > > > > > > > > > > > > ask

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > u, u

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > should not hold things at ur's end

> and u

> > > > > don't

> > > > > > > gain

> > > > > > > > > any

> > > > > > > > > > > > > thing with

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ur approach.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit Mishra.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > >

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