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dear lalit

 

all your mails expose your maturity levels and what you are up to.

by writing bad language and insulting and abusive mails on gurus and

pandits, you are only earning bad karmas.

 

you are yet to learn the basic manners of learning astrology from a

group of astrologers. you confused yourself on even the names of the

sages and prashantji, pandit dakshinamoorthiji and myself tried to

educate you. the tone and tenor of an astrology student must be

polite and seeking, not abusing and threatening. you cannot learn

anything by insulting the astrology gurus like pandit

dakshinamoorthiji.

 

in public groups, there are some basic decencies and decorums which

are mentioned in the homepage. this group's homepage clearly says

that you must have COURTESY AND MUTUAL RESPECT which have not been

followed by you and you are writing mails insulting the contributing

astrologers. a learning astrology student comes to an astrology

group and start insulting all the astrologers there and use bad

language without basic etiquettes.

 

with this mail, i request the group moderator to keep lalit mishra

under moderation and approve only those messages which does not have

foul language.

 

the moderators can easily conclude that lalit has no courtesy and

mutual respect for the contributing astrologers which is against the

group's code mentioned in the homepage.

 

with best wishes and blessings

pandit arjun

www.rudraksharemedy.com

 

 

 

vedic astrology , " litsol " <mishra.lalit

wrote:

>

> You Rudraakschh Vendor,

>

> Group Members don't know you as u put " Pandit " with ur's name, and

> You have fogotten that I had come to ur residence and seen u in Yr -

 

> 2006. I know ur's reality.

>

> be alert .... !!

>

> I will advice you to avoid commenting me or writing against me.

>

> Take my words seriously, I won't repeat my advice 2nd time but w'd

> take action with all my rights!!

>

> understand it.

> Lalit.

>

>

>

>

vedic astrology , " panditarjun2004 "

> <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> >

> > dear pandit dakshinamoorthiji

> >

> > you may safely assume that mr.lalith has hacked your email ID and

> has

> > access to your mailbox. you may change your password and also

keep

> > changing it a couple of times in the next few days.

> >

> > with best wishes and blessings

> > pandit arjun

> > www.rudraksharemedy.com

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology , " dakshinastrologer "

> > <dakshinastrologer@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Group:

> > >

> > > Let me clarify....Mr. Lalith is again trying to present a wrong

> > > picture as he always does according to his inherently perverted

> > logic.

> > >

> > > I did not voluntarily write to various persons seeking

> > > support....when they requested me to continue in this group, I

> > wrote

> > > back to them stating my stance..... " IT IS EITHER MR. LALITH OR

> ME "

> > > That is all to this. This is consistent with my stated

stance.

> He

> > > has maligned my honour and his present mail also continues in

the

> > > same vein.

> > >

> > > Mr. Lalith is behaving like a third rate investigative

journalist

> > who

> > > can only be satisfied by scams and in tarnishing established

> > > reputations whether those charges are consistent with the

> person's

> > > known behaviour or not! Such indecency is definitely affecting

> my

> > > peace of mind and in turn affecting my routines. I have hug

> > backlog

> > > of appointments and I am not at my best. That is what I wrote

to

> > > this man long back also.....

> > >

> > > This fellow believes a ghost can spoil his life from a

distance,

> > but

> > > an occultist cannot type from a computer! The essence is... " If

> > > something happens to Mr. Lalith, or if Mr. Lalith approves of

it,

> > it

> > > is correct...otherwise, if he finds it difficult to believe, it

> is

> > > wrong! " A person of my nature cannot co-exist with such

arrogant

> > > attitudes.

> > >

> > > He says that he will support me.....who else is attacking me

> except

> > > him? Only because of his persistent tagging me and dragging me

> > into

> > > controversies this unfortunate incident has come up!

> > >

> > > I am openly stating a final word UNLESS MR. LALITH IS BANNED

FROM

> > > THIS GROUP AND I RECEIVE A PERSONAL MAIL STATING THE SAME I

WILL

> > NOT

> > > CONTINUE IN THIS GROUP.

> > >

> > > There is no secret in this. I am a straightforward person. I

> have

> > > never hidden my preferences or nature from anyone.

> > >

> > > Blessed be.

> > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > vedic astrology , " litsol "

<mishra.lalit@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Group,

> > > >

> > > > Do u know, Pt Dakschhinamurty Ji has written mails to people

> like

> > > > Arjun Pandit to support him. If he has no links with

MohanRaam,

> i

> > > > will be first to support him, i took a paid consultation from

> him.

> > > >

> > > > See, i m very clear tht there is a good astrologer exist with

> > him,

> > > > with you, i too appeciate him, bt seems there is another side

> of

> > > the

> > > > coin too.

> > > >

> > > > PanditJi pls. stop saying that MohanRaam uses ur computer to

> post

> > > > mails and u dont know him, Pls. stop saying that he is such a

> > > > accomplished person in occult science that he can flew in the

> air

> > > and

> > > > access one's mailbox, if it's, why he didn't access my

> mailbox.

> > He

> > > > is no more !!

> > > >

> > > > Perhapse Arjun Pandit Ji has forgotten me, well, m not

> begining

> > > > another chapter of controversy.

> > > >

> > > > I think every one has right to exist and do the business but

no

> > one

> > > > has right to exploit simple and gullible members who come to

> the

> > > > group like i came, such people people started business doing

> with

> > a

> > > > psychological strategy.

> > > >

> > > > Well, No MOhanraam is appearing here, What a great

> psychological

> > > game

> > > > is was, he did write to me - " I m going to send u a message,

a

> > > sample

> > > > of what mohanraam is, this will open ur eyes ... " ,

> > > >

> > > > And Group u know, a Sr. astrologer called me around 11 pm, he

> was

> > > too

> > > > worried for my safety , He said they people might have

harmful

> > > occult

> > > > siddhis ...., he suggested me to not to enter into any fight

> with

> > > > them.... this sort of terror was being spread by people like

> > > > mohanraam.

> > > >

> > > > He as taling about Veda and Upveda.....

> > > >

> > > > ... and world has seen what siddhi's this mohanraam had

> > > >

> > > > :)

> > > >

> > > > Pls. mind, if i had any weakness in my heart and mind, what

w'd

> > > have

> > > > happened to me, if my faith on my divine mother have been a

> > little

> > > > less, what w'd have happened to me....

> > > >

> > > > yes, few people has correctly said - " Truth Wins.. " . Truth

has

> > won.

> > > >

> > > > The Game is over.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Lalit.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology , " dakshinastrologer "

> > > > <dakshinastrologer@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Shri. Karunaakaram Raaghavam:

> > > > >

> > > > > Do you mean to say that you also suspect me of being

> > > Mohanraaamji?

> > > > > And the word " swine " does it apply to me? Shri. Lalith has

> not

> > > > > merely attacked Mohanraaamji....He has alleged that I am

> > > > Mohanraaamji

> > > > > though I had refuted it to him time and again.....Your mail

> > also

> > > > > seems to indicate such a thought process........

> > > > >

> > > > > I would have been happy if at least you who got some

> intricate

> > > > > clarifications on shaastraas done through me on a honorary

> > basis

> > > > had

> > > > > said something like " I also had trouble with Mohanraaamji,

> but

> > he

> > > > > cannot be Pandit Dakshinamoorthi. Pandit Dakshinamoorthiji

> will

> > > not

> > > > > stoop to such low levels " .

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for your mail...I was undecided about my decision

> taken

> > in

> > > > an

> > > > > upset mood in the evening about quitting the group. But

your

> > > mail

> > > > > has exposed one truth about the members of the

> > group.......People

> > > > who

> > > > > are gentle and believe in the innate goodness of persons

like

> > me

> > > > are

> > > > > very silent and circumspect in their respect; They are just

> > > asking

> > > > me

> > > > > not to quit because " the group needs my presence! " . I have

> not

> > > so

> > > > > far got even one mail in this group saying that Panditji

> would

> > > not

> > > > > have done anything bad; But those who criticise others are

> most

> > > > vocal

> > > > > in raising a ruckus and joining hands - whether the subject

> of

> > > > > criticism deserves such a censure or not. Have I ever ever

> > > spoken

> > > > > one word against you in this forum; touch your heart and

> > > say!...and

> > > > > when you asked a doubt did I not clarify it? Did I ask you

> > money

> > > > for

> > > > > it? After getting knowledge clarifications from me, it is

a

> > nice

> > > > > gesture you have shown me!

> > > > >

> > > > > This obviously is not a place for a person like me. I have

> > > > respected

> > > > > my Gurus with all my heart and would not even hear one word

> > > spoken

> > > > > wrongly of them. But, such a mentality is not found here.

> > > > >

> > > > > Blessed be.

> > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology , KARUNAAKARAM

> RAAGHAVAM

> > > > > <munisevitham@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Namaste,

> > > > > > Mr.Lalit Mishra,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thank you very much; I am happy about your perseverance

> in

> > > > > excavating truth and shown the way to gullible glib takers.

> You

> > > > have

> > > > > torn the masks of invisible Swine. Once this swine had

> insulted

> > > > > me " egoistic pig " [indirectly in message 73986 of 21stApril

> > > 2006],

> > > > > then I had left it to God, now at last the invisible had

> > > evaporated

> > > > > after addressing all the members of the forum

as " spineless " .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > God bless you,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > litsol <mishra.lalit@>

> > wrote:

> > > > > Dear Group,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It looks that a fake id of MohanRaam is created to

counter

> > to

> > > > > other

> > > > > > Senior Astrologers of the group, Now, it is clear, there

> is

> > no

> > > > > > Mohanraam existing. Mohanraam says he posted all mails

> from

> > > > Pandit

> > > > > > Dakschhinamurty's computer, He has not claimed that he

> > posted

> > > > all

> > > > > > mails from my or ur's computer.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So a strong doubt is, Either, it is PanditJi himself or

> his

> > > > > people,

> > > > > > whosoever it is, it's ridiculous and disgusting.

MohanRaam

> > can

> > > > > enter

> > > > > > into PanditJi's computer and can type in a mail and

more,

> he

> > > can

> > > > > send

> > > > > > it to group.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > But he cant enter into my mailbox to see who are the

group

> > > > members

> > > > > > sending mails to me , He claims that he was not a Major

> that

> > i

> > > > > > assumed, but what he was, he has not written ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Leave it, Group u have seen how these people who swears

of

> > > veda

> > > > > > culture or vedic values are in real life, I m so sad

> today,

> > > they

> > > > > will

> > > > > > talk about seers like Kanchi Sankaracharya, but what

they

> > are

> > > in

> > > > > > real ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Panditji has good knowledge of astrology, Why he needs a

> > sort

> > > of

> > > > > > Mohanraam .... Why ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What u will say, ambition, greed or insecurity ? Or a

wish

> > to

> > > > > become

> > > > > > an icon in the field of Astrology...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Have u noticed, This MOHANRAAM equates him to PT. SANJAY

> > RATH-

> > > > 44

> > > > > yr,

> > > > > > PV NARSIMHA RAO - 37 yr, who are half of his claimed

> age...,

> > > Who

> > > > > is

> > > > > > doing this sort of claims, who is gettting benefitted. a

> 86

> > > year

> > > > > old

> > > > > > man ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > See, this was a ghost in the group, which happen to

fight

> > with

> > > a

> > > > > > Software Engineer and trapped in the broad day light,

> before

> > > all

> > > > > 7719

> > > > > > members of the group.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Shame !!!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > And i m sorry, i was made instrumental to expose, had he

> not

> > > > said

> > > > > i m

> > > > > > suffering from such and such psychological disorderness,

I

> > w'd

> > > > not

> > > > > > have tried to expose the two faces of one man.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > vedic astrology , " mohanraaam "

> > > > <mohanraaam@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Lalith:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > You need not trouble yourself with tracing the IP

> > > > > address.....You

> > > > > > > will get the IP address of Panditji only if you trace

> it.

> > I

> > > > > have

> > > > > > > been sending it from his computer only.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Yesterday night, we had a long session of exchange; at

> > that

> > > > time

> > > > > > > Panditji was asleep, and his younger brother and

mother

> > were

> > > > > also

> > > > > > > there in the house at that time. His computer was

> inside

> > > his

> > > > > > locked

> > > > > > > office room.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > You who speak of miracles must know that there are

> people

> > > > > capable

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > doing those things. I have consumed large amounts of

> food

> > > > from

> > > > > his

> > > > > > > house which no normal human being can do.......His

whole

> > > > family

> > > > > > knows

> > > > > > > of all these. They are all perplexed by that.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Guruji has himself traced the IP id once to his own

> > computer

> > > > > when

> > > > > > he

> > > > > > > got it traced through a software engineer client of

> > > his...So,

> > > > it

> > > > > is

> > > > > > > nothing new.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > By the way, I was not a major in the Indian army

during

> > the

> > > > > > > Bangladesh war....how did you assume I was only

> > a " major " ?

> > > > What

> > > > > > > makes you think that I did not serve earlier wars?

What

> > > makes

> > > > > you

> > > > > > > think that I was not a Brigadier at that time?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Young man you have a long way to go in occult to

> > understand

> > > > that

> > > > > > many

> > > > > > > miracles can happen in normal life.......I have not

> > > threatened

> > > > > you

> > > > > > > with death or anything......I had infact openly

written

> > that

> > > I

> > > > > have

> > > > > > > not even cursed you.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Guruji has no connection with me; he is not asking me

to

> > do

> > > > what

> > > > > I

> > > > > > am

> > > > > > > doing. I have been typing from his computer -

sometimes

> > > even

> > > > as

> > > > > he

> > > > > > > is chatting with clients, I have sent mails from his

> email

> > > > id.

> > > > > You

> > > > > > > can check the time stamps to confirm this. One

software

> > > > > engineer

> > > > > > who

> > > > > > > traced this (on the request of Panditji himself) found

> > that

> > > 5

> > > > > > > different mails had been sent at the same time that

too

> in

> > > > > detail

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > in reply to mails received at the same time (it was

not

> a

> > > > stored

> > > > > > mail

> > > > > > > being sent; but a live mail sent as a reply to 5

> different

> > > > > persons).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > So, tracing IP address will prove nothing. You may

> > > > erraneously

> > > > > > > assume that Panditji or someone in his family might be

> > doing

> > > > > that

> > > > > > (he

> > > > > > > has parallel connection and his brother uses the other

> > > > > connection

> > > > > > > from his room; so you might assume that if it is not

> > > Panditji,

> > > > > > > someone close to him is doing that......But even that

is

> > not

> > > > > true.

> > > > > > > His family is as perplexed by some of my activities as

> you

> > > are

> > > > > all!)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > If Panditji and I are the same, how come he receives

my

> > > mails?

> > > > > Why

> > > > > > > does he write to my email id? Is it humanly possible

to

> > > > > maintain

> > > > > > > such elaborate set up, and what purpose it will serve?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Your doubt is not baseless, but a simple logical

> thinking

> > > will

> > > > > tell

> > > > > > > you that it is not possible for a man of his schedule

to

> > > > indulge

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > empty antics like that!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > If the group can believe this, let them believe. I

have

> > > said

> > > > > THE

> > > > > > > TRUTH.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Mohanraaam.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > vedic astrology , " litsol "

> > > > <mishra.lalit@>

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I will put my observations :

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Pt. Dakschhinamurty has good knowledge of Astrology

> and

> > > has

> > > > > good

> > > > > > > > collection of classics. his has good writing skills,

> > soft

> > > > and

> > > > > > > > convincing.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > He owns a Master degree in Psychology..... (mind it)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > And this MohanRaam.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Observe his way of writing, same sort of composition

> in

> > > > > english

> > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > Pt. Dakschhina has.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > U see, this MohanRaam repeatedly uses some medical

> terms

> > > of

> > > > > > mental

> > > > > > > > disorderness, talks about Psychology and

> Psychiatrists,

> > > > > discusses

> > > > > > > > symptoms and suggests remedies ......

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Now, watch him closely..., what he claims,

astutely !!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > He spreads teror, a scaremonger , He owns

destructive

> > > occult

> > > > > > power,

> > > > > > > > and if u speak a bit about Pt. Dakschhinamurty, He

> will

> > > > curse

> > > > > u,

> > > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > kill u.. and bla bla...

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Pt. Dakschhinamurthy has been selected in defence

for

> > the

> > > > > > position

> > > > > > > > of " Commander " or something like this ....

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Mohanraam gives his introduction like he was in

army,

> > > > > > participated

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > bangladesh war...

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > his age is 86+.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > now calculate, he was an officer in army, well, his

> > > > > designation

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > not known, assuming he was a Major in army, the

> average

> > > age

> > > > > for a

> > > > > > > > major in army is 35-37.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > bangladesh war happened in 1971, if we add 36+36 =

72,

> > He

> > > > > can't

> > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > 86, may be he was not a major/col. also.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Now, come to, His typing...

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Looks, He writes faster than a paid typist, with no

> > > > mistakes,

> > > > > > > > beleive, he is 86... and his fingers are so nice.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > He has only one pupose, that is to spread terror of

> his

> > > > > > > > occultpower.., How, By creating a Psychological Game

> to

> > > curb

> > > > > > > other's

> > > > > > > > opinions, amd particularly if there is any thing

> related

> > > > with

> > > > > Pt.

> > > > > > > > Dakschhinamurty.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I have not traced his IP address, wherefrom he posts

> his

> > > > > mails,

> > > > > > > But,

> > > > > > > > I m prone to think, Some Nexus, Some Link between

two

> > mail

> > > > Ids.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I leave it to the group to observe his behavior.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > vedic astrology , " mohanraaam "

> > > > > > <mohanraaam@>

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Group:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Lalith has made a serious allegation that " there

is

> a

> > > > nexus

> > > > > > > between

> > > > > > > > > me and Pandit Dakshinamoorthi " ....There have been

> > > certain

> > > > > other

> > > > > > > > > persons also who have alluded to that in the

> past....I

> > > > want

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > clarify on that.....

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I accept that definitely I am an admirer of Pandit

> > > > > > > > Dakshinamoorthiji

> > > > > > > > > because as an elderly yogi who has seen life, very

> > > rarely

> > > > > have

> > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > come

> > > > > > > > > across a person of such a calibre and definitely

not

> > in

> > > > this

> > > > > > > > present

> > > > > > > > > generation. So, I do write glowingly about him,

and

> I

> > > do

> > > > > get

> > > > > > > > tensed

> > > > > > > > > when someone attacks him, and retort with mails.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > But, there is no unholy nexus between us. I am

not

> > > > a " paid "

> > > > > > > > agent.

> > > > > > > > > I write only what I have felt about him. I have

no

> > mal

> > > > > > > intentions

> > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > that. I do not think Panditji needs a person like

> me

> > to

> > > > > sing

> > > > > > his

> > > > > > > > > praise; as someone in this group wrote

> > > earlier " Knowledge

> > > > > needs

> > > > > > > no

> > > > > > > > > introduction " , and Panditji's knowledge would have

> > been

> > > > > obvious

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > everyone in the group.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I am supporting Panditji only because as you all

> might

> > > be

> > > > > > aware,

> > > > > > > he

> > > > > > > > > was not contributing to the group regularly for

> > > sometime;

> > > > > when

> > > > > > > > asked,

> > > > > > > > > he said that there were unnecessary controversies

> and

> > he

> > > > > felt

> > > > > > it

> > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > beneath a scholar to indulge in unsavoury

exchanges,

> > at

> > > > the

> > > > > > same

> > > > > > > > > time, as a practising professional he cannot

afford

> to

> > > > keep

> > > > > > quite

> > > > > > > > if

> > > > > > > > > someone attacks his professionalism which might

> spoil

> > > his

> > > > > > > > > professional image. So, I brought him back with

the

> > > > promise

> > > > > > that

> > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > will be his mouthpiece and spokesperson to defend

> him

> > if

> > > > > > > unsavoury

> > > > > > > > > controversies arise. Even initially, it was on my

> > > > > invitation

> > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > Guruji joined this group in the first instance. I

> did

> > > > this

> > > > > > only

> > > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > the benefit of the learner of the group. Guruji is

a

> > > very

> > > > > > private

> > > > > > > > > person who tends to hide his Glow in a bushel. I

> > wanted

> > > > his

> > > > > > > > > intelligence and wisdom to benefit many and that

is

> > why

> > > I

> > > > > > > > introduced

> > > > > > > > > him to the group; and I support him and write

mails

> > only

> > > > so

> > > > > > that

> > > > > > > he

> > > > > > > > > does not quit the group due to unsavoury

incidents.

> > Old

> > > > > > members

> > > > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > > remember that I was once even banned from the

group.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Other than this, there is no other unholy or mal

> > > > intentions

> > > > > in

> > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > supporting Guruji. Definitely, this is not at his

> > > > request.

> > > > > He

> > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > not one to make such requests. He will be patient

> to

> > > his

> > > > > > limits;

> > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > if his limit exceeds, he will just walk away from

> the

> > > > group

> > > > > > which

> > > > > > > > > will be the loss to the group. That is why, in an

> > > attempt

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > > retain

> > > > > > > > > his services here, I do write supporting him.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > In exchanges with Lalith, Guruji is not involved

at

> > > all.

> > > > In

> > > > > > > fact,

> > > > > > > > he

> > > > > > > > > requested me not to fight with Lalith and asked me

> to

> > > > ignore

> > > > > > > him.

> > > > > > > > > But, the challenging tone of Lalith only impels me

> to

> > > > write

> > > > > > again

> > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > again. But, Guruji's name is unnecessarily drawn

> into

> > > > this.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > THE TRUTH IS THAT I HAVE SEEN GURUJI; BUT GURUJI

HAS

> > NOT

> > > > > SEEN

> > > > > > ME

> > > > > > > > EVEN

> > > > > > > > > ONCE IN HIS LIFE.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Blessings,

> > > > > > > > > Mohanraaam

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives

> answers,

> > > not

> > > > > web links.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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I warned u yesterday.. u have not learned a bit.

So, I m forced to take action against you.

 

thanks for playing smart.

 

regards,

Lalit.

 

 

 

vedic astrology , " panditarjun2004 "

<panditarjun2004 wrote:

>

> dear lalit

>

> all your mails expose your maturity levels and what you are up to.

> by writing bad language and insulting and abusive mails on gurus

and

> pandits, you are only earning bad karmas.

>

> you are yet to learn the basic manners of learning astrology from a

> group of astrologers. you confused yourself on even the names of

the

> sages and prashantji, pandit dakshinamoorthiji and myself tried to

> educate you. the tone and tenor of an astrology student must be

> polite and seeking, not abusing and threatening. you cannot learn

> anything by insulting the astrology gurus like pandit

> dakshinamoorthiji.

>

> in public groups, there are some basic decencies and decorums which

> are mentioned in the homepage. this group's homepage clearly says

> that you must have COURTESY AND MUTUAL RESPECT which have not been

> followed by you and you are writing mails insulting the

contributing

> astrologers. a learning astrology student comes to an astrology

> group and start insulting all the astrologers there and use bad

> language without basic etiquettes.

>

> with this mail, i request the group moderator to keep lalit mishra

> under moderation and approve only those messages which does not

have

> foul language.

>

> the moderators can easily conclude that lalit has no courtesy and

> mutual respect for the contributing astrologers which is against

the

> group's code mentioned in the homepage.

>

> with best wishes and blessings

> pandit arjun

> www.rudraksharemedy.com

>

>

>

> vedic astrology , " litsol " <mishra.lalit@>

> wrote:

> >

> > You Rudraakschh Vendor,

> >

> > Group Members don't know you as u put " Pandit " with ur's name,

and

> > You have fogotten that I had come to ur residence and seen u in

Yr -

>

> > 2006. I know ur's reality.

> >

> > be alert .... !!

> >

> > I will advice you to avoid commenting me or writing against me.

> >

> > Take my words seriously, I won't repeat my advice 2nd time but

w'd

> > take action with all my rights!!

> >

> > understand it.

> > Lalit.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology , " panditarjun2004 "

> > <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> > >

> > > dear pandit dakshinamoorthiji

> > >

> > > you may safely assume that mr.lalith has hacked your email ID

and

> > has

> > > access to your mailbox. you may change your password and also

> keep

> > > changing it a couple of times in the next few days.

> > >

> > > with best wishes and blessings

> > > pandit arjun

> > > www.rudraksharemedy.com

> > >

> > >

> > > vedic astrology , " dakshinastrologer "

> > > <dakshinastrologer@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Group:

> > > >

> > > > Let me clarify....Mr. Lalith is again trying to present a

wrong

> > > > picture as he always does according to his inherently

perverted

> > > logic.

> > > >

> > > > I did not voluntarily write to various persons seeking

> > > > support....when they requested me to continue in this group,

I

> > > wrote

> > > > back to them stating my stance..... " IT IS EITHER MR. LALITH

OR

> > ME "

> > > > That is all to this. This is consistent with my stated

> stance.

> > He

> > > > has maligned my honour and his present mail also continues in

> the

> > > > same vein.

> > > >

> > > > Mr. Lalith is behaving like a third rate investigative

> journalist

> > > who

> > > > can only be satisfied by scams and in tarnishing established

> > > > reputations whether those charges are consistent with the

> > person's

> > > > known behaviour or not! Such indecency is definitely

affecting

> > my

> > > > peace of mind and in turn affecting my routines. I have hug

> > > backlog

> > > > of appointments and I am not at my best. That is what I

wrote

> to

> > > > this man long back also.....

> > > >

> > > > This fellow believes a ghost can spoil his life from a

> distance,

> > > but

> > > > an occultist cannot type from a computer! The essence

is... " If

> > > > something happens to Mr. Lalith, or if Mr. Lalith approves of

> it,

> > > it

> > > > is correct...otherwise, if he finds it difficult to believe,

it

> > is

> > > > wrong! " A person of my nature cannot co-exist with such

> arrogant

> > > > attitudes.

> > > >

> > > > He says that he will support me.....who else is attacking me

> > except

> > > > him? Only because of his persistent tagging me and dragging

me

> > > into

> > > > controversies this unfortunate incident has come up!

> > > >

> > > > I am openly stating a final word UNLESS MR. LALITH IS BANNED

> FROM

> > > > THIS GROUP AND I RECEIVE A PERSONAL MAIL STATING THE SAME I

> WILL

> > > NOT

> > > > CONTINUE IN THIS GROUP.

> > > >

> > > > There is no secret in this. I am a straightforward person.

I

> > have

> > > > never hidden my preferences or nature from anyone.

> > > >

> > > > Blessed be.

> > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology , " litsol "

> <mishra.lalit@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Group,

> > > > >

> > > > > Do u know, Pt Dakschhinamurty Ji has written mails to

people

> > like

> > > > > Arjun Pandit to support him. If he has no links with

> MohanRaam,

> > i

> > > > > will be first to support him, i took a paid consultation

from

> > him.

> > > > >

> > > > > See, i m very clear tht there is a good astrologer exist

with

> > > him,

> > > > > with you, i too appeciate him, bt seems there is another

side

> > of

> > > > the

> > > > > coin too.

> > > > >

> > > > > PanditJi pls. stop saying that MohanRaam uses ur computer

to

> > post

> > > > > mails and u dont know him, Pls. stop saying that he is such

a

> > > > > accomplished person in occult science that he can flew in

the

> > air

> > > > and

> > > > > access one's mailbox, if it's, why he didn't access my

> > mailbox.

> > > He

> > > > > is no more !!

> > > > >

> > > > > Perhapse Arjun Pandit Ji has forgotten me, well, m not

> > begining

> > > > > another chapter of controversy.

> > > > >

> > > > > I think every one has right to exist and do the business

but

> no

> > > one

> > > > > has right to exploit simple and gullible members who come

to

> > the

> > > > > group like i came, such people people started business

doing

> > with

> > > a

> > > > > psychological strategy.

> > > > >

> > > > > Well, No MOhanraam is appearing here, What a great

> > psychological

> > > > game

> > > > > is was, he did write to me - " I m going to send u a

message,

> a

> > > > sample

> > > > > of what mohanraam is, this will open ur eyes ... " ,

> > > > >

> > > > > And Group u know, a Sr. astrologer called me around 11 pm,

he

> > was

> > > > too

> > > > > worried for my safety , He said they people might have

> harmful

> > > > occult

> > > > > siddhis ...., he suggested me to not to enter into any

fight

> > with

> > > > > them.... this sort of terror was being spread by people

like

> > > > > mohanraam.

> > > > >

> > > > > He as taling about Veda and Upveda.....

> > > > >

> > > > > ... and world has seen what siddhi's this mohanraam had

> > > > >

> > > > > :)

> > > > >

> > > > > Pls. mind, if i had any weakness in my heart and mind, what

> w'd

> > > > have

> > > > > happened to me, if my faith on my divine mother have been a

> > > little

> > > > > less, what w'd have happened to me....

> > > > >

> > > > > yes, few people has correctly said - " Truth Wins.. " . Truth

> has

> > > won.

> > > > >

> > > > > The Game is over.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > Lalit.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology , " dakshinastrologer "

> > > > > <dakshinastrologer@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Shri. Karunaakaram Raaghavam:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Do you mean to say that you also suspect me of being

> > > > Mohanraaamji?

> > > > > > And the word " swine " does it apply to me? Shri. Lalith

has

> > not

> > > > > > merely attacked Mohanraaamji....He has alleged that I am

> > > > > Mohanraaamji

> > > > > > though I had refuted it to him time and again.....Your

mail

> > > also

> > > > > > seems to indicate such a thought process........

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I would have been happy if at least you who got some

> > intricate

> > > > > > clarifications on shaastraas done through me on a

honorary

> > > basis

> > > > > had

> > > > > > said something like " I also had trouble with

Mohanraaamji,

> > but

> > > he

> > > > > > cannot be Pandit Dakshinamoorthi. Pandit

Dakshinamoorthiji

> > will

> > > > not

> > > > > > stoop to such low levels " .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks for your mail...I was undecided about my decision

> > taken

> > > in

> > > > > an

> > > > > > upset mood in the evening about quitting the group. But

> your

> > > > mail

> > > > > > has exposed one truth about the members of the

> > > group.......People

> > > > > who

> > > > > > are gentle and believe in the innate goodness of persons

> like

> > > me

> > > > > are

> > > > > > very silent and circumspect in their respect; They are

just

> > > > asking

> > > > > me

> > > > > > not to quit because " the group needs my presence! " . I

have

> > not

> > > > so

> > > > > > far got even one mail in this group saying that Panditji

> > would

> > > > not

> > > > > > have done anything bad; But those who criticise others

are

> > most

> > > > > vocal

> > > > > > in raising a ruckus and joining hands - whether the

subject

> > of

> > > > > > criticism deserves such a censure or not. Have I ever

ever

> > > > spoken

> > > > > > one word against you in this forum; touch your heart and

> > > > say!...and

> > > > > > when you asked a doubt did I not clarify it? Did I ask

you

> > > money

> > > > > for

> > > > > > it? After getting knowledge clarifications from me, it

is

> a

> > > nice

> > > > > > gesture you have shown me!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This obviously is not a place for a person like me. I

have

> > > > > respected

> > > > > > my Gurus with all my heart and would not even hear one

word

> > > > spoken

> > > > > > wrongly of them. But, such a mentality is not found here.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Blessed be.

> > > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > vedic astrology , KARUNAAKARAM

> > RAAGHAVAM

> > > > > > <munisevitham@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Namaste,

> > > > > > > Mr.Lalit Mishra,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thank you very much; I am happy about your

perseverance

> > in

> > > > > > excavating truth and shown the way to gullible glib

takers.

> > You

> > > > > have

> > > > > > torn the masks of invisible Swine. Once this swine had

> > insulted

> > > > > > me " egoistic pig " [indirectly in message 73986 of

21stApril

> > > > 2006],

> > > > > > then I had left it to God, now at last the invisible had

> > > > evaporated

> > > > > > after addressing all the members of the forum

> as " spineless " .

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > God bless you,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > litsol <mishra.lalit@>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Group,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It looks that a fake id of MohanRaam is created to

> counter

> > > to

> > > > > > other

> > > > > > > Senior Astrologers of the group, Now, it is clear,

there

> > is

> > > no

> > > > > > > Mohanraam existing. Mohanraam says he posted all mails

> > from

> > > > > Pandit

> > > > > > > Dakschhinamurty's computer, He has not claimed that he

> > > posted

> > > > > all

> > > > > > > mails from my or ur's computer.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > So a strong doubt is, Either, it is PanditJi himself

or

> > his

> > > > > > people,

> > > > > > > whosoever it is, it's ridiculous and disgusting.

> MohanRaam

> > > can

> > > > > > enter

> > > > > > > into PanditJi's computer and can type in a mail and

> more,

> > he

> > > > can

> > > > > > send

> > > > > > > it to group.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > But he cant enter into my mailbox to see who are the

> group

> > > > > members

> > > > > > > sending mails to me , He claims that he was not a

Major

> > that

> > > i

> > > > > > > assumed, but what he was, he has not written ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Leave it, Group u have seen how these people who

swears

> of

> > > > veda

> > > > > > > culture or vedic values are in real life, I m so sad

> > today,

> > > > they

> > > > > > will

> > > > > > > talk about seers like Kanchi Sankaracharya, but what

> they

> > > are

> > > > in

> > > > > > > real ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Panditji has good knowledge of astrology, Why he needs

a

> > > sort

> > > > of

> > > > > > > Mohanraam .... Why ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > What u will say, ambition, greed or insecurity ? Or a

> wish

> > > to

> > > > > > become

> > > > > > > an icon in the field of Astrology...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Have u noticed, This MOHANRAAM equates him to PT.

SANJAY

> > > RATH-

> > > > > 44

> > > > > > yr,

> > > > > > > PV NARSIMHA RAO - 37 yr, who are half of his claimed

> > age...,

> > > > Who

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > doing this sort of claims, who is gettting benefitted.

a

> > 86

> > > > year

> > > > > > old

> > > > > > > man ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > See, this was a ghost in the group, which happen to

> fight

> > > with

> > > > a

> > > > > > > Software Engineer and trapped in the broad day light,

> > before

> > > > all

> > > > > > 7719

> > > > > > > members of the group.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Shame !!!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > And i m sorry, i was made instrumental to expose, had

he

> > not

> > > > > said

> > > > > > i m

> > > > > > > suffering from such and such psychological

disorderness,

> I

> > > w'd

> > > > > not

> > > > > > > have tried to expose the two faces of one man.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > vedic astrology , " mohanraaam "

> > > > > <mohanraaam@>

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Lalith:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > You need not trouble yourself with tracing the IP

> > > > > > address.....You

> > > > > > > > will get the IP address of Panditji only if you

trace

> > it.

> > > I

> > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > been sending it from his computer only.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Yesterday night, we had a long session of exchange;

at

> > > that

> > > > > time

> > > > > > > > Panditji was asleep, and his younger brother and

> mother

> > > were

> > > > > > also

> > > > > > > > there in the house at that time. His computer was

> > inside

> > > > his

> > > > > > > locked

> > > > > > > > office room.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > You who speak of miracles must know that there are

> > people

> > > > > > capable

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > doing those things. I have consumed large amounts

of

> > food

> > > > > from

> > > > > > his

> > > > > > > > house which no normal human being can do.......His

> whole

> > > > > family

> > > > > > > knows

> > > > > > > > of all these. They are all perplexed by that.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Guruji has himself traced the IP id once to his own

> > > computer

> > > > > > when

> > > > > > > he

> > > > > > > > got it traced through a software engineer client of

> > > > his...So,

> > > > > it

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > nothing new.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > By the way, I was not a major in the Indian army

> during

> > > the

> > > > > > > > Bangladesh war....how did you assume I was only

> > > a " major " ?

> > > > > What

> > > > > > > > makes you think that I did not serve earlier wars?

> What

> > > > makes

> > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > think that I was not a Brigadier at that time?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Young man you have a long way to go in occult to

> > > understand

> > > > > that

> > > > > > > many

> > > > > > > > miracles can happen in normal life.......I have not

> > > > threatened

> > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > with death or anything......I had infact openly

> written

> > > that

> > > > I

> > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > not even cursed you.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Guruji has no connection with me; he is not asking

me

> to

> > > do

> > > > > what

> > > > > > I

> > > > > > > am

> > > > > > > > doing. I have been typing from his computer -

> sometimes

> > > > even

> > > > > as

> > > > > > he

> > > > > > > > is chatting with clients, I have sent mails from his

> > email

> > > > > id.

> > > > > > You

> > > > > > > > can check the time stamps to confirm this. One

> software

> > > > > > engineer

> > > > > > > who

> > > > > > > > traced this (on the request of Panditji himself)

found

> > > that

> > > > 5

> > > > > > > > different mails had been sent at the same time that

> too

> > in

> > > > > > detail

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > in reply to mails received at the same time (it was

> not

> > a

> > > > > stored

> > > > > > > mail

> > > > > > > > being sent; but a live mail sent as a reply to 5

> > different

> > > > > > persons).

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > So, tracing IP address will prove nothing. You may

> > > > > erraneously

> > > > > > > > assume that Panditji or someone in his family might

be

> > > doing

> > > > > > that

> > > > > > > (he

> > > > > > > > has parallel connection and his brother uses the

other

> > > > > > connection

> > > > > > > > from his room; so you might assume that if it is not

> > > > Panditji,

> > > > > > > > someone close to him is doing that......But even

that

> is

> > > not

> > > > > > true.

> > > > > > > > His family is as perplexed by some of my activities

as

> > you

> > > > are

> > > > > > all!)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > If Panditji and I are the same, how come he receives

> my

> > > > mails?

> > > > > > Why

> > > > > > > > does he write to my email id? Is it humanly

possible

> to

> > > > > > maintain

> > > > > > > > such elaborate set up, and what purpose it will

serve?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Your doubt is not baseless, but a simple logical

> > thinking

> > > > will

> > > > > > tell

> > > > > > > > you that it is not possible for a man of his

schedule

> to

> > > > > indulge

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > empty antics like that!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > If the group can believe this, let them believe. I

> have

> > > > said

> > > > > > THE

> > > > > > > > TRUTH.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Mohanraaam.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > vedic astrology , " litsol "

> > > > > <mishra.lalit@>

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I will put my observations :

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Pt. Dakschhinamurty has good knowledge of

Astrology

> > and

> > > > has

> > > > > > good

> > > > > > > > > collection of classics. his has good writing

skills,

> > > soft

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > convincing.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > He owns a Master degree in Psychology..... (mind

it)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > And this MohanRaam.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Observe his way of writing, same sort of

composition

> > in

> > > > > > english

> > > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > > Pt. Dakschhina has.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > U see, this MohanRaam repeatedly uses some medical

> > terms

> > > > of

> > > > > > > mental

> > > > > > > > > disorderness, talks about Psychology and

> > Psychiatrists,

> > > > > > discusses

> > > > > > > > > symptoms and suggests remedies ......

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Now, watch him closely..., what he claims,

> astutely !!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > He spreads teror, a scaremonger , He owns

> destructive

> > > > occult

> > > > > > > power,

> > > > > > > > > and if u speak a bit about Pt. Dakschhinamurty, He

> > will

> > > > > curse

> > > > > > u,

> > > > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > > kill u.. and bla bla...

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Pt. Dakschhinamurthy has been selected in defence

> for

> > > the

> > > > > > > position

> > > > > > > > > of " Commander " or something like this ....

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Mohanraam gives his introduction like he was in

> army,

> > > > > > > participated

> > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > bangladesh war...

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > his age is 86+.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > now calculate, he was an officer in army, well,

his

> > > > > > designation

> > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > not known, assuming he was a Major in army, the

> > average

> > > > age

> > > > > > for a

> > > > > > > > > major in army is 35-37.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > bangladesh war happened in 1971, if we add 36+36 =

> 72,

> > > He

> > > > > > can't

> > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > 86, may be he was not a major/col. also.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Now, come to, His typing...

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Looks, He writes faster than a paid typist, with

no

> > > > > mistakes,

> > > > > > > > > beleive, he is 86... and his fingers are so nice.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > He has only one pupose, that is to spread terror

of

> > his

> > > > > > > > > occultpower.., How, By creating a Psychological

Game

> > to

> > > > curb

> > > > > > > > other's

> > > > > > > > > opinions, amd particularly if there is any thing

> > related

> > > > > with

> > > > > > Pt.

> > > > > > > > > Dakschhinamurty.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I have not traced his IP address, wherefrom he

posts

> > his

> > > > > > mails,

> > > > > > > > But,

> > > > > > > > > I m prone to think, Some Nexus, Some Link between

> two

> > > mail

> > > > > Ids.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I leave it to the group to observe his behavior.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > vedic-

astrology , " mohanraaam "

> > > > > > > <mohanraaam@>

> > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Group:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Lalith has made a serious allegation that " there

> is

> > a

> > > > > nexus

> > > > > > > > between

> > > > > > > > > > me and Pandit Dakshinamoorthi " ....There have

been

> > > > certain

> > > > > > other

> > > > > > > > > > persons also who have alluded to that in the

> > past....I

> > > > > want

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > clarify on that.....

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I accept that definitely I am an admirer of

Pandit

> > > > > > > > > Dakshinamoorthiji

> > > > > > > > > > because as an elderly yogi who has seen life,

very

> > > > rarely

> > > > > > have

> > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > come

> > > > > > > > > > across a person of such a calibre and definitely

> not

> > > in

> > > > > this

> > > > > > > > > present

> > > > > > > > > > generation. So, I do write glowingly about him,

> and

> > I

> > > > do

> > > > > > get

> > > > > > > > > tensed

> > > > > > > > > > when someone attacks him, and retort with mails.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > But, there is no unholy nexus between us. I am

> not

> > > > > a " paid "

> > > > > > > > > agent.

> > > > > > > > > > I write only what I have felt about him. I have

> no

> > > mal

> > > > > > > > intentions

> > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > that. I do not think Panditji needs a person

like

> > me

> > > to

> > > > > > sing

> > > > > > > his

> > > > > > > > > > praise; as someone in this group wrote

> > > > earlier " Knowledge

> > > > > > needs

> > > > > > > > no

> > > > > > > > > > introduction " , and Panditji's knowledge would

have

> > > been

> > > > > > obvious

> > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > everyone in the group.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I am supporting Panditji only because as you all

> > might

> > > > be

> > > > > > > aware,

> > > > > > > > he

> > > > > > > > > > was not contributing to the group regularly for

> > > > sometime;

> > > > > > when

> > > > > > > > > asked,

> > > > > > > > > > he said that there were unnecessary

controversies

> > and

> > > he

> > > > > > felt

> > > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > beneath a scholar to indulge in unsavoury

> exchanges,

> > > at

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > same

> > > > > > > > > > time, as a practising professional he cannot

> afford

> > to

> > > > > keep

> > > > > > > quite

> > > > > > > > > if

> > > > > > > > > > someone attacks his professionalism which might

> > spoil

> > > > his

> > > > > > > > > > professional image. So, I brought him back with

> the

> > > > > promise

> > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > > will be his mouthpiece and spokesperson to

defend

> > him

> > > if

> > > > > > > > unsavoury

> > > > > > > > > > controversies arise. Even initially, it was on

my

> > > > > > invitation

> > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > Guruji joined this group in the first instance.

I

> > did

> > > > > this

> > > > > > > only

> > > > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > the benefit of the learner of the group. Guruji

is

> a

> > > > very

> > > > > > > private

> > > > > > > > > > person who tends to hide his Glow in a bushel.

I

> > > wanted

> > > > > his

> > > > > > > > > > intelligence and wisdom to benefit many and that

> is

> > > why

> > > > I

> > > > > > > > > introduced

> > > > > > > > > > him to the group; and I support him and write

> mails

> > > only

> > > > > so

> > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > he

> > > > > > > > > > does not quit the group due to unsavoury

> incidents.

> > > Old

> > > > > > > members

> > > > > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > > > remember that I was once even banned from the

> group.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Other than this, there is no other unholy or mal

> > > > > intentions

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > > supporting Guruji. Definitely, this is not at

his

> > > > > request.

> > > > > > He

> > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > not one to make such requests. He will be

patient

> > to

> > > > his

> > > > > > > limits;

> > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > if his limit exceeds, he will just walk away

from

> > the

> > > > > group

> > > > > > > which

> > > > > > > > > > will be the loss to the group. That is why, in

an

> > > > attempt

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > retain

> > > > > > > > > > his services here, I do write supporting him.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > In exchanges with Lalith, Guruji is not involved

> at

> > > > all.

> > > > > In

> > > > > > > > fact,

> > > > > > > > > he

> > > > > > > > > > requested me not to fight with Lalith and asked

me

> > to

> > > > > ignore

> > > > > > > > him.

> > > > > > > > > > But, the challenging tone of Lalith only impels

me

> > to

> > > > > write

> > > > > > > again

> > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > again. But, Guruji's name is unnecessarily

drawn

> > into

> > > > > this.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > THE TRUTH IS THAT I HAVE SEEN GURUJI; BUT GURUJI

> HAS

> > > NOT

> > > > > > SEEN

> > > > > > > ME

> > > > > > > > > EVEN

> > > > > > > > > > ONCE IN HIS LIFE.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Blessings,

> > > > > > > > > > Mohanraaam

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives

> > answers,

> > > > not

> > > > > > web links.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

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Oh My God!!!....now theres gonna be an ALL OUT " RUDRAKSHA " WAR!!!!.......Keep it

upfolks......I'm on both sides:))

 

 

litsol <mishra.lalit wrote:

I warned u yesterday.. u have not learned a bit.

So, I m forced to take action against you.

 

thanks for playing smart.

 

regards,

Lalit.

 

vedic astrology , " panditarjun2004 "

<panditarjun2004 wrote:

>

> dear lalit

>

> all your mails expose your maturity levels and what you are up to.

> by writing bad language and insulting and abusive mails on gurus

and

> pandits, you are only earning bad karmas.

>

> you are yet to learn the basic manners of learning astrology from a

> group of astrologers. you confused yourself on even the names of

the

> sages and prashantji, pandit dakshinamoorthiji and myself tried to

> educate you. the tone and tenor of an astrology student must be

> polite and seeking, not abusing and threatening. you cannot learn

> anything by insulting the astrology gurus like pandit

> dakshinamoorthiji.

>

> in public groups, there are some basic decencies and decorums which

> are mentioned in the homepage. this group's homepage clearly says

> that you must have COURTESY AND MUTUAL RESPECT which have not been

> followed by you and you are writing mails insulting the

contributing

> astrologers. a learning astrology student comes to an astrology

> group and start insulting all the astrologers there and use bad

> language without basic etiquettes.

>

> with this mail, i request the group moderator to keep lalit mishra

> under moderation and approve only those messages which does not

have

> foul language.

>

> the moderators can easily conclude that lalit has no courtesy and

> mutual respect for the contributing astrologers which is against

the

> group's code mentioned in the homepage.

>

> with best wishes and blessings

> pandit arjun

> www.rudraksharemedy.com

>

>

>

> vedic astrology , " litsol " <mishra.lalit@>

> wrote:

> >

> > You Rudraakschh Vendor,

> >

> > Group Members don't know you as u put " Pandit " with ur's name,

and

> > You have fogotten that I had come to ur residence and seen u in

Yr -

>

> > 2006. I know ur's reality.

> >

> > be alert .... !!

> >

> > I will advice you to avoid commenting me or writing against me.

> >

> > Take my words seriously, I won't repeat my advice 2nd time but

w'd

> > take action with all my rights!!

> >

> > understand it.

> > Lalit.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology , " panditarjun2004 "

> > <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> > >

> > > dear pandit dakshinamoorthiji

> > >

> > > you may safely assume that mr.lalith has hacked your email ID

and

> > has

> > > access to your mailbox. you may change your password and also

> keep

> > > changing it a couple of times in the next few days.

> > >

> > > with best wishes and blessings

> > > pandit arjun

> > > www.rudraksharemedy.com

> > >

> > >

> > > vedic astrology , " dakshinastrologer "

> > > <dakshinastrologer@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Group:

> > > >

> > > > Let me clarify....Mr. Lalith is again trying to present a

wrong

> > > > picture as he always does according to his inherently

perverted

> > > logic.

> > > >

> > > > I did not voluntarily write to various persons seeking

> > > > support....when they requested me to continue in this group,

I

> > > wrote

> > > > back to them stating my stance..... " IT IS EITHER MR. LALITH

OR

> > ME "

> > > > That is all to this. This is consistent with my stated

> stance.

> > He

> > > > has maligned my honour and his present mail also continues in

> the

> > > > same vein.

> > > >

> > > > Mr. Lalith is behaving like a third rate investigative

> journalist

> > > who

> > > > can only be satisfied by scams and in tarnishing established

> > > > reputations whether those charges are consistent with the

> > person's

> > > > known behaviour or not! Such indecency is definitely

affecting

> > my

> > > > peace of mind and in turn affecting my routines. I have hug

> > > backlog

> > > > of appointments and I am not at my best. That is what I

wrote

> to

> > > > this man long back also.....

> > > >

> > > > This fellow believes a ghost can spoil his life from a

> distance,

> > > but

> > > > an occultist cannot type from a computer! The essence

is... " If

> > > > something happens to Mr. Lalith, or if Mr. Lalith approves of

> it,

> > > it

> > > > is correct...otherwise, if he finds it difficult to believe,

it

> > is

> > > > wrong! " A person of my nature cannot co-exist with such

> arrogant

> > > > attitudes.

> > > >

> > > > He says that he will support me.....who else is attacking me

> > except

> > > > him? Only because of his persistent tagging me and dragging

me

> > > into

> > > > controversies this unfortunate incident has come up!

> > > >

> > > > I am openly stating a final word UNLESS MR. LALITH IS BANNED

> FROM

> > > > THIS GROUP AND I RECEIVE A PERSONAL MAIL STATING THE SAME I

> WILL

> > > NOT

> > > > CONTINUE IN THIS GROUP.

> > > >

> > > > There is no secret in this. I am a straightforward person.

I

> > have

> > > > never hidden my preferences or nature from anyone.

> > > >

> > > > Blessed be.

> > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology , " litsol "

> <mishra.lalit@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Group,

> > > > >

> > > > > Do u know, Pt Dakschhinamurty Ji has written mails to

people

> > like

> > > > > Arjun Pandit to support him. If he has no links with

> MohanRaam,

> > i

> > > > > will be first to support him, i took a paid consultation

from

> > him.

> > > > >

> > > > > See, i m very clear tht there is a good astrologer exist

with

> > > him,

> > > > > with you, i too appeciate him, bt seems there is another

side

> > of

> > > > the

> > > > > coin too.

> > > > >

> > > > > PanditJi pls. stop saying that MohanRaam uses ur computer

to

> > post

> > > > > mails and u dont know him, Pls. stop saying that he is such

a

> > > > > accomplished person in occult science that he can flew in

the

> > air

> > > > and

> > > > > access one's mailbox, if it's, why he didn't access my

> > mailbox.

> > > He

> > > > > is no more !!

> > > > >

> > > > > Perhapse Arjun Pandit Ji has forgotten me, well, m not

> > begining

> > > > > another chapter of controversy.

> > > > >

> > > > > I think every one has right to exist and do the business

but

> no

> > > one

> > > > > has right to exploit simple and gullible members who come

to

> > the

> > > > > group like i came, such people people started business

doing

> > with

> > > a

> > > > > psychological strategy.

> > > > >

> > > > > Well, No MOhanraam is appearing here, What a great

> > psychological

> > > > game

> > > > > is was, he did write to me - " I m going to send u a

message,

> a

> > > > sample

> > > > > of what mohanraam is, this will open ur eyes ... " ,

> > > > >

> > > > > And Group u know, a Sr. astrologer called me around 11 pm,

he

> > was

> > > > too

> > > > > worried for my safety , He said they people might have

> harmful

> > > > occult

> > > > > siddhis ...., he suggested me to not to enter into any

fight

> > with

> > > > > them.... this sort of terror was being spread by people

like

> > > > > mohanraam.

> > > > >

> > > > > He as taling about Veda and Upveda.....

> > > > >

> > > > > ... and world has seen what siddhi's this mohanraam had

> > > > >

> > > > > :)

> > > > >

> > > > > Pls. mind, if i had any weakness in my heart and mind, what

> w'd

> > > > have

> > > > > happened to me, if my faith on my divine mother have been a

> > > little

> > > > > less, what w'd have happened to me....

> > > > >

> > > > > yes, few people has correctly said - " Truth Wins.. " . Truth

> has

> > > won.

> > > > >

> > > > > The Game is over.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > Lalit.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology , " dakshinastrologer "

> > > > > <dakshinastrologer@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Shri. Karunaakaram Raaghavam:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Do you mean to say that you also suspect me of being

> > > > Mohanraaamji?

> > > > > > And the word " swine " does it apply to me? Shri. Lalith

has

> > not

> > > > > > merely attacked Mohanraaamji....He has alleged that I am

> > > > > Mohanraaamji

> > > > > > though I had refuted it to him time and again.....Your

mail

> > > also

> > > > > > seems to indicate such a thought process........

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I would have been happy if at least you who got some

> > intricate

> > > > > > clarifications on shaastraas done through me on a

honorary

> > > basis

> > > > > had

> > > > > > said something like " I also had trouble with

Mohanraaamji,

> > but

> > > he

> > > > > > cannot be Pandit Dakshinamoorthi. Pandit

Dakshinamoorthiji

> > will

> > > > not

> > > > > > stoop to such low levels " .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks for your mail...I was undecided about my decision

> > taken

> > > in

> > > > > an

> > > > > > upset mood in the evening about quitting the group. But

> your

> > > > mail

> > > > > > has exposed one truth about the members of the

> > > group.......People

> > > > > who

> > > > > > are gentle and believe in the innate goodness of persons

> like

> > > me

> > > > > are

> > > > > > very silent and circumspect in their respect; They are

just

> > > > asking

> > > > > me

> > > > > > not to quit because " the group needs my presence! " . I

have

> > not

> > > > so

> > > > > > far got even one mail in this group saying that Panditji

> > would

> > > > not

> > > > > > have done anything bad; But those who criticise others

are

> > most

> > > > > vocal

> > > > > > in raising a ruckus and joining hands - whether the

subject

> > of

> > > > > > criticism deserves such a censure or not. Have I ever

ever

> > > > spoken

> > > > > > one word against you in this forum; touch your heart and

> > > > say!...and

> > > > > > when you asked a doubt did I not clarify it? Did I ask

you

> > > money

> > > > > for

> > > > > > it? After getting knowledge clarifications from me, it

is

> a

> > > nice

> > > > > > gesture you have shown me!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This obviously is not a place for a person like me. I

have

> > > > > respected

> > > > > > my Gurus with all my heart and would not even hear one

word

> > > > spoken

> > > > > > wrongly of them. But, such a mentality is not found here.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Blessed be.

> > > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > vedic astrology , KARUNAAKARAM

> > RAAGHAVAM

> > > > > > <munisevitham@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Namaste,

> > > > > > > Mr.Lalit Mishra,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thank you very much; I am happy about your

perseverance

> > in

> > > > > > excavating truth and shown the way to gullible glib

takers.

> > You

> > > > > have

> > > > > > torn the masks of invisible Swine. Once this swine had

> > insulted

> > > > > > me " egoistic pig " [indirectly in message 73986 of

21stApril

> > > > 2006],

> > > > > > then I had left it to God, now at last the invisible had

> > > > evaporated

> > > > > > after addressing all the members of the forum

> as " spineless " .

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > God bless you,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > litsol <mishra.lalit@>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Group,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It looks that a fake id of MohanRaam is created to

> counter

> > > to

> > > > > > other

> > > > > > > Senior Astrologers of the group, Now, it is clear,

there

> > is

> > > no

> > > > > > > Mohanraam existing. Mohanraam says he posted all mails

> > from

> > > > > Pandit

> > > > > > > Dakschhinamurty's computer, He has not claimed that he

> > > posted

> > > > > all

> > > > > > > mails from my or ur's computer.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > So a strong doubt is, Either, it is PanditJi himself

or

> > his

> > > > > > people,

> > > > > > > whosoever it is, it's ridiculous and disgusting.

> MohanRaam

> > > can

> > > > > > enter

> > > > > > > into PanditJi's computer and can type in a mail and

> more,

> > he

> > > > can

> > > > > > send

> > > > > > > it to group.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > But he cant enter into my mailbox to see who are the

> group

> > > > > members

> > > > > > > sending mails to me , He claims that he was not a

Major

> > that

> > > i

> > > > > > > assumed, but what he was, he has not written ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Leave it, Group u have seen how these people who

swears

> of

> > > > veda

> > > > > > > culture or vedic values are in real life, I m so sad

> > today,

> > > > they

> > > > > > will

> > > > > > > talk about seers like Kanchi Sankaracharya, but what

> they

> > > are

> > > > in

> > > > > > > real ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Panditji has good knowledge of astrology, Why he needs

a

> > > sort

> > > > of

> > > > > > > Mohanraam .... Why ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > What u will say, ambition, greed or insecurity ? Or a

> wish

> > > to

> > > > > > become

> > > > > > > an icon in the field of Astrology...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Have u noticed, This MOHANRAAM equates him to PT.

SANJAY

> > > RATH-

> > > > > 44

> > > > > > yr,

> > > > > > > PV NARSIMHA RAO - 37 yr, who are half of his claimed

> > age...,

> > > > Who

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > doing this sort of claims, who is gettting benefitted.

a

> > 86

> > > > year

> > > > > > old

> > > > > > > man ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > See, this was a ghost in the group, which happen to

> fight

> > > with

> > > > a

> > > > > > > Software Engineer and trapped in the broad day light,

> > before

> > > > all

> > > > > > 7719

> > > > > > > members of the group.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Shame !!!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > And i m sorry, i was made instrumental to expose, had

he

> > not

> > > > > said

> > > > > > i m

> > > > > > > suffering from such and such psychological

disorderness,

> I

> > > w'd

> > > > > not

> > > > > > > have tried to expose the two faces of one man.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > vedic astrology , " mohanraaam "

> > > > > <mohanraaam@>

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Lalith:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > You need not trouble yourself with tracing the IP

> > > > > > address.....You

> > > > > > > > will get the IP address of Panditji only if you

trace

> > it.

> > > I

> > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > been sending it from his computer only.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Yesterday night, we had a long session of exchange;

at

> > > that

> > > > > time

> > > > > > > > Panditji was asleep, and his younger brother and

> mother

> > > were

> > > > > > also

> > > > > > > > there in the house at that time. His computer was

> > inside

> > > > his

> > > > > > > locked

> > > > > > > > office room.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > You who speak of miracles must know that there are

> > people

> > > > > > capable

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > doing those things. I have consumed large amounts

of

> > food

> > > > > from

> > > > > > his

> > > > > > > > house which no normal human being can do.......His

> whole

> > > > > family

> > > > > > > knows

> > > > > > > > of all these. They are all perplexed by that.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Guruji has himself traced the IP id once to his own

> > > computer

> > > > > > when

> > > > > > > he

> > > > > > > > got it traced through a software engineer client of

> > > > his...So,

> > > > > it

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > nothing new.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > By the way, I was not a major in the Indian army

> during

> > > the

> > > > > > > > Bangladesh war....how did you assume I was only

> > > a " major " ?

> > > > > What

> > > > > > > > makes you think that I did not serve earlier wars?

> What

> > > > makes

> > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > think that I was not a Brigadier at that time?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Young man you have a long way to go in occult to

> > > understand

> > > > > that

> > > > > > > many

> > > > > > > > miracles can happen in normal life.......I have not

> > > > threatened

> > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > with death or anything......I had infact openly

> written

> > > that

> > > > I

> > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > not even cursed you.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Guruji has no connection with me; he is not asking

me

> to

> > > do

> > > > > what

> > > > > > I

> > > > > > > am

> > > > > > > > doing. I have been typing from his computer -

> sometimes

> > > > even

> > > > > as

> > > > > > he

> > > > > > > > is chatting with clients, I have sent mails from his

> > email

> > > > > id.

> > > > > > You

> > > > > > > > can check the time stamps to confirm this. One

> software

> > > > > > engineer

> > > > > > > who

> > > > > > > > traced this (on the request of Panditji himself)

found

> > > that

> > > > 5

> > > > > > > > different mails had been sent at the same time that

> too

> > in

> > > > > > detail

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > in reply to mails received at the same time (it was

> not

> > a

> > > > > stored

> > > > > > > mail

> > > > > > > > being sent; but a live mail sent as a reply to 5

> > different

> > > > > > persons).

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > So, tracing IP address will prove nothing. You may

> > > > > erraneously

> > > > > > > > assume that Panditji or someone in his family might

be

> > > doing

> > > > > > that

> > > > > > > (he

> > > > > > > > has parallel connection and his brother uses the

other

> > > > > > connection

> > > > > > > > from his room; so you might assume that if it is not

> > > > Panditji,

> > > > > > > > someone close to him is doing that......But even

that

> is

> > > not

> > > > > > true.

> > > > > > > > His family is as perplexed by some of my activities

as

> > you

> > > > are

> > > > > > all!)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > If Panditji and I are the same, how come he receives

> my

> > > > mails?

> > > > > > Why

> > > > > > > > does he write to my email id? Is it humanly

possible

> to

> > > > > > maintain

> > > > > > > > such elaborate set up, and what purpose it will

serve?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Your doubt is not baseless, but a simple logical

> > thinking

> > > > will

> > > > > > tell

> > > > > > > > you that it is not possible for a man of his

schedule

> to

> > > > > indulge

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > empty antics like that!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > If the group can believe this, let them believe. I

> have

> > > > said

> > > > > > THE

> > > > > > > > TRUTH.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Mohanraaam.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > vedic astrology , " litsol "

> > > > > <mishra.lalit@>

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I will put my observations :

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Pt. Dakschhinamurty has good knowledge of

Astrology

> > and

> > > > has

> > > > > > good

> > > > > > > > > collection of classics. his has good writing

skills,

> > > soft

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > convincing.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > He owns a Master degree in Psychology..... (mind

it)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > And this MohanRaam.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Observe his way of writing, same sort of

composition

> > in

> > > > > > english

> > > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > > Pt. Dakschhina has.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > U see, this MohanRaam repeatedly uses some medical

> > terms

> > > > of

> > > > > > > mental

> > > > > > > > > disorderness, talks about Psychology and

> > Psychiatrists,

> > > > > > discusses

> > > > > > > > > symptoms and suggests remedies ......

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Now, watch him closely..., what he claims,

> astutely !!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > He spreads teror, a scaremonger , He owns

> destructive

> > > > occult

> > > > > > > power,

> > > > > > > > > and if u speak a bit about Pt. Dakschhinamurty, He

> > will

> > > > > curse

> > > > > > u,

> > > > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > > kill u.. and bla bla...

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Pt. Dakschhinamurthy has been selected in defence

> for

> > > the

> > > > > > > position

> > > > > > > > > of " Commander " or something like this ....

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Mohanraam gives his introduction like he was in

> army,

> > > > > > > participated

> > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > bangladesh war...

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > his age is 86+.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > now calculate, he was an officer in army, well,

his

> > > > > > designation

> > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > not known, assuming he was a Major in army, the

> > average

> > > > age

> > > > > > for a

> > > > > > > > > major in army is 35-37.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > bangladesh war happened in 1971, if we add 36+36 =

> 72,

> > > He

> > > > > > can't

> > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > 86, may be he was not a major/col. also.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Now, come to, His typing...

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Looks, He writes faster than a paid typist, with

no

> > > > > mistakes,

> > > > > > > > > beleive, he is 86... and his fingers are so nice.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > He has only one pupose, that is to spread terror

of

> > his

> > > > > > > > > occultpower.., How, By creating a Psychological

Game

> > to

> > > > curb

> > > > > > > > other's

> > > > > > > > > opinions, amd particularly if there is any thing

> > related

> > > > > with

> > > > > > Pt.

> > > > > > > > > Dakschhinamurty.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I have not traced his IP address, wherefrom he

posts

> > his

> > > > > > mails,

> > > > > > > > But,

> > > > > > > > > I m prone to think, Some Nexus, Some Link between

> two

> > > mail

> > > > > Ids.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I leave it to the group to observe his behavior.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > vedic-

astrology , " mohanraaam "

> > > > > > > <mohanraaam@>

> > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Group:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Lalith has made a serious allegation that " there

> is

> > a

> > > > > nexus

> > > > > > > > between

> > > > > > > > > > me and Pandit Dakshinamoorthi " ....There have

been

> > > > certain

> > > > > > other

> > > > > > > > > > persons also who have alluded to that in the

> > past....I

> > > > > want

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > clarify on that.....

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I accept that definitely I am an admirer of

Pandit

> > > > > > > > > Dakshinamoorthiji

> > > > > > > > > > because as an elderly yogi who has seen life,

very

> > > > rarely

> > > > > > have

> > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > come

> > > > > > > > > > across a person of such a calibre and definitely

> not

> > > in

> > > > > this

> > > > > > > > > present

> > > > > > > > > > generation. So, I do write glowingly about him,

> and

> > I

> > > > do

> > > > > > get

> > > > > > > > > tensed

> > > > > > > > > > when someone attacks him, and retort with mails.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > But, there is no unholy nexus between us. I am

> not

> > > > > a " paid "

> > > > > > > > > agent.

> > > > > > > > > > I write only what I have felt about him. I have

> no

> > > mal

> > > > > > > > intentions

> > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > that. I do not think Panditji needs a person

like

> > me

> > > to

> > > > > > sing

> > > > > > > his

> > > > > > > > > > praise; as someone in this group wrote

> > > > earlier " Knowledge

> > > > > > needs

> > > > > > > > no

> > > > > > > > > > introduction " , and Panditji's knowledge would

have

> > > been

> > > > > > obvious

> > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > everyone in the group.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I am supporting Panditji only because as you all

> > might

> > > > be

> > > > > > > aware,

> > > > > > > > he

> > > > > > > > > > was not contributing to the group regularly for

> > > > sometime;

> > > > > > when

> > > > > > > > > asked,

> > > > > > > > > > he said that there were unnecessary

controversies

> > and

> > > he

> > > > > > felt

> > > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > beneath a scholar to indulge in unsavoury

> exchanges,

> > > at

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > same

> > > > > > > > > > time, as a practising professional he cannot

> afford

> > to

> > > > > keep

> > > > > > > quite

> > > > > > > > > if

> > > > > > > > > > someone attacks his professionalism which might

> > spoil

> > > > his

> > > > > > > > > > professional image. So, I brought him back with

> the

> > > > > promise

> > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > > will be his mouthpiece and spokesperson to

defend

> > him

> > > if

> > > > > > > > unsavoury

> > > > > > > > > > controversies arise. Even initially, it was on

my

> > > > > > invitation

> > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > Guruji joined this group in the first instance.

I

> > did

> > > > > this

> > > > > > > only

> > > > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > the benefit of the learner of the group. Guruji

is

> a

> > > > very

> > > > > > > private

> > > > > > > > > > person who tends to hide his Glow in a bushel.

I

> > > wanted

> > > > > his

> > > > > > > > > > intelligence and wisdom to benefit many and that

> is

> > > why

> > > > I

> > > > > > > > > introduced

> > > > > > > > > > him to the group; and I support him and write

> mails

> > > only

> > > > > so

> > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > he

> > > > > > > > > > does not quit the group due to unsavoury

> incidents.

> > > Old

> > > > > > > members

> > > > > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > > > remember that I was once even banned from the

> group.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Other than this, there is no other unholy or mal

> > > > > intentions

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > > supporting Guruji. Definitely, this is not at

his

> > > > > request.

> > > > > > He

> > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > not one to make such requests. He will be

patient

> > to

> > > > his

> > > > > > > limits;

> > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > if his limit exceeds, he will just walk away

from

> > the

> > > > > group

> > > > > > > which

> > > > > > > > > > will be the loss to the group. That is why, in

an

> > > > attempt

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > retain

> > > > > > > > > > his services here, I do write supporting him.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > In exchanges with Lalith, Guruji is not involved

> at

> > > > all.

> > > > > In

> > > > > > > > fact,

> > > > > > > > > he

> > > > > > > > > > requested me not to fight with Lalith and asked

me

> > to

> > > > > ignore

> > > > > > > > him.

> > > > > > > > > > But, the challenging tone of Lalith only impels

me

> > to

> > > > > write

> > > > > > > again

> > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > again. But, Guruji's name is unnecessarily

drawn

> > into

> > > > > this.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > THE TRUTH IS THAT I HAVE SEEN GURUJI; BUT GURUJI

> HAS

> > > NOT

> > > > > > SEEN

> > > > > > > ME

> > > > > > > > > EVEN

> > > > > > > > > > ONCE IN HIS LIFE.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Blessings,

> > > > > > > > > > Mohanraaam

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives

> > answers,

> > > > not

> > > > > > web links.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

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dear lalit

 

giving warnings and threatening actions only expose your dark side.

generally i am against banning any member but your repeated abusive

mails to one astrologer after another (first mohanraamji, then

dakshinamoorthiji, later rafalji and myself) are forcing us to

request for a ban on your membership in this august group. you

better visit the homepage of this group once again and read the

objective of treating other astrologers with respect and courtesy.

 

with best wishes and blessings

pandit arjun

www.rudraksharemedy.com

 

vedic astrology , " litsol " <mishra.lalit

wrote:

>

> I warned u yesterday.. u have not learned a bit.

> So, I m forced to take action against you.

>

> thanks for playing smart.

>

> regards,

> Lalit.

>

>

>

> vedic astrology , " panditarjun2004 "

> <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> >

> > dear lalit

> >

> > all your mails expose your maturity levels and what you are up

to.

> > by writing bad language and insulting and abusive mails on gurus

> and

> > pandits, you are only earning bad karmas.

> >

> > you are yet to learn the basic manners of learning astrology from

a

> > group of astrologers. you confused yourself on even the names of

> the

> > sages and prashantji, pandit dakshinamoorthiji and myself tried

to

> > educate you. the tone and tenor of an astrology student must be

> > polite and seeking, not abusing and threatening. you cannot

learn

> > anything by insulting the astrology gurus like pandit

> > dakshinamoorthiji.

> >

> > in public groups, there are some basic decencies and decorums

which

> > are mentioned in the homepage. this group's homepage clearly

says

> > that you must have COURTESY AND MUTUAL RESPECT which have not

been

> > followed by you and you are writing mails insulting the

> contributing

> > astrologers. a learning astrology student comes to an astrology

> > group and start insulting all the astrologers there and use bad

> > language without basic etiquettes.

> >

> > with this mail, i request the group moderator to keep lalit

mishra

> > under moderation and approve only those messages which does not

> have

> > foul language.

> >

> > the moderators can easily conclude that lalit has no courtesy and

> > mutual respect for the contributing astrologers which is against

> the

> > group's code mentioned in the homepage.

> >

> > with best wishes and blessings

> > pandit arjun

> > www.rudraksharemedy.com

> >

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology , " litsol " <mishra.lalit@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > You Rudraakschh Vendor,

> > >

> > > Group Members don't know you as u put " Pandit " with ur's name,

> and

> > > You have fogotten that I had come to ur residence and seen u in

> Yr -

> >

> > > 2006. I know ur's reality.

> > >

> > > be alert .... !!

> > >

> > > I will advice you to avoid commenting me or writing against me.

> > >

> > > Take my words seriously, I won't repeat my advice 2nd time but

> w'd

> > > take action with all my rights!!

> > >

> > > understand it.

> > > Lalit.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > vedic astrology , " panditarjun2004 "

> > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > dear pandit dakshinamoorthiji

> > > >

> > > > you may safely assume that mr.lalith has hacked your email ID

> and

> > > has

> > > > access to your mailbox. you may change your password and

also

> > keep

> > > > changing it a couple of times in the next few days.

> > > >

> > > > with best wishes and blessings

> > > > pandit arjun

> > > > www.rudraksharemedy.com

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology , " dakshinastrologer "

> > > > <dakshinastrologer@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Group:

> > > > >

> > > > > Let me clarify....Mr. Lalith is again trying to present a

> wrong

> > > > > picture as he always does according to his inherently

> perverted

> > > > logic.

> > > > >

> > > > > I did not voluntarily write to various persons seeking

> > > > > support....when they requested me to continue in this

group,

> I

> > > > wrote

> > > > > back to them stating my stance..... " IT IS EITHER MR. LALITH

> OR

> > > ME "

> > > > > That is all to this. This is consistent with my stated

> > stance.

> > > He

> > > > > has maligned my honour and his present mail also continues

in

> > the

> > > > > same vein.

> > > > >

> > > > > Mr. Lalith is behaving like a third rate investigative

> > journalist

> > > > who

> > > > > can only be satisfied by scams and in tarnishing

established

> > > > > reputations whether those charges are consistent with the

> > > person's

> > > > > known behaviour or not! Such indecency is definitely

> affecting

> > > my

> > > > > peace of mind and in turn affecting my routines. I have

hug

> > > > backlog

> > > > > of appointments and I am not at my best. That is what I

> wrote

> > to

> > > > > this man long back also.....

> > > > >

> > > > > This fellow believes a ghost can spoil his life from a

> > distance,

> > > > but

> > > > > an occultist cannot type from a computer! The essence

> is... " If

> > > > > something happens to Mr. Lalith, or if Mr. Lalith approves

of

> > it,

> > > > it

> > > > > is correct...otherwise, if he finds it difficult to

believe,

> it

> > > is

> > > > > wrong! " A person of my nature cannot co-exist with such

> > arrogant

> > > > > attitudes.

> > > > >

> > > > > He says that he will support me.....who else is attacking

me

> > > except

> > > > > him? Only because of his persistent tagging me and

dragging

> me

> > > > into

> > > > > controversies this unfortunate incident has come up!

> > > > >

> > > > > I am openly stating a final word UNLESS MR. LALITH IS

BANNED

> > FROM

> > > > > THIS GROUP AND I RECEIVE A PERSONAL MAIL STATING THE SAME I

> > WILL

> > > > NOT

> > > > > CONTINUE IN THIS GROUP.

> > > > >

> > > > > There is no secret in this. I am a straightforward

person.

> I

> > > have

> > > > > never hidden my preferences or nature from anyone.

> > > > >

> > > > > Blessed be.

> > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology , " litsol "

> > <mishra.lalit@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Group,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Do u know, Pt Dakschhinamurty Ji has written mails to

> people

> > > like

> > > > > > Arjun Pandit to support him. If he has no links with

> > MohanRaam,

> > > i

> > > > > > will be first to support him, i took a paid consultation

> from

> > > him.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > See, i m very clear tht there is a good astrologer exist

> with

> > > > him,

> > > > > > with you, i too appeciate him, bt seems there is another

> side

> > > of

> > > > > the

> > > > > > coin too.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > PanditJi pls. stop saying that MohanRaam uses ur computer

> to

> > > post

> > > > > > mails and u dont know him, Pls. stop saying that he is

such

> a

> > > > > > accomplished person in occult science that he can flew in

> the

> > > air

> > > > > and

> > > > > > access one's mailbox, if it's, why he didn't access my

> > > mailbox.

> > > > He

> > > > > > is no more !!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Perhapse Arjun Pandit Ji has forgotten me, well, m not

> > > begining

> > > > > > another chapter of controversy.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I think every one has right to exist and do the business

> but

> > no

> > > > one

> > > > > > has right to exploit simple and gullible members who come

> to

> > > the

> > > > > > group like i came, such people people started business

> doing

> > > with

> > > > a

> > > > > > psychological strategy.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Well, No MOhanraam is appearing here, What a great

> > > psychological

> > > > > game

> > > > > > is was, he did write to me - " I m going to send u a

> message,

> > a

> > > > > sample

> > > > > > of what mohanraam is, this will open ur eyes ... " ,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > And Group u know, a Sr. astrologer called me around 11

pm,

> he

> > > was

> > > > > too

> > > > > > worried for my safety , He said they people might have

> > harmful

> > > > > occult

> > > > > > siddhis ...., he suggested me to not to enter into any

> fight

> > > with

> > > > > > them.... this sort of terror was being spread by people

> like

> > > > > > mohanraam.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > He as taling about Veda and Upveda.....

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ... and world has seen what siddhi's this mohanraam had

> > > > > >

> > > > > > :)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Pls. mind, if i had any weakness in my heart and mind,

what

> > w'd

> > > > > have

> > > > > > happened to me, if my faith on my divine mother have been

a

> > > > little

> > > > > > less, what w'd have happened to me....

> > > > > >

> > > > > > yes, few people has correctly said - " Truth Wins.. " .

Truth

> > has

> > > > won.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The Game is over.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > vedic-

astrology , " dakshinastrologer "

> > > > > > <dakshinastrologer@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Shri. Karunaakaram Raaghavam:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Do you mean to say that you also suspect me of being

> > > > > Mohanraaamji?

> > > > > > > And the word " swine " does it apply to me? Shri. Lalith

> has

> > > not

> > > > > > > merely attacked Mohanraaamji....He has alleged that I

am

> > > > > > Mohanraaamji

> > > > > > > though I had refuted it to him time and again.....Your

> mail

> > > > also

> > > > > > > seems to indicate such a thought process........

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I would have been happy if at least you who got some

> > > intricate

> > > > > > > clarifications on shaastraas done through me on a

> honorary

> > > > basis

> > > > > > had

> > > > > > > said something like " I also had trouble with

> Mohanraaamji,

> > > but

> > > > he

> > > > > > > cannot be Pandit Dakshinamoorthi. Pandit

> Dakshinamoorthiji

> > > will

> > > > > not

> > > > > > > stoop to such low levels " .

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks for your mail...I was undecided about my

decision

> > > taken

> > > > in

> > > > > > an

> > > > > > > upset mood in the evening about quitting the group.

But

> > your

> > > > > mail

> > > > > > > has exposed one truth about the members of the

> > > > group.......People

> > > > > > who

> > > > > > > are gentle and believe in the innate goodness of

persons

> > like

> > > > me

> > > > > > are

> > > > > > > very silent and circumspect in their respect; They are

> just

> > > > > asking

> > > > > > me

> > > > > > > not to quit because " the group needs my presence! " . I

> have

> > > not

> > > > > so

> > > > > > > far got even one mail in this group saying that

Panditji

> > > would

> > > > > not

> > > > > > > have done anything bad; But those who criticise others

> are

> > > most

> > > > > > vocal

> > > > > > > in raising a ruckus and joining hands - whether the

> subject

> > > of

> > > > > > > criticism deserves such a censure or not. Have I ever

> ever

> > > > > spoken

> > > > > > > one word against you in this forum; touch your heart

and

> > > > > say!...and

> > > > > > > when you asked a doubt did I not clarify it? Did I ask

> you

> > > > money

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > it? After getting knowledge clarifications from me, it

> is

> > a

> > > > nice

> > > > > > > gesture you have shown me!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > This obviously is not a place for a person like me. I

> have

> > > > > > respected

> > > > > > > my Gurus with all my heart and would not even hear one

> word

> > > > > spoken

> > > > > > > wrongly of them. But, such a mentality is not found

here.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Blessed be.

> > > > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > vedic astrology , KARUNAAKARAM

> > > RAAGHAVAM

> > > > > > > <munisevitham@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Namaste,

> > > > > > > > Mr.Lalit Mishra,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thank you very much; I am happy about your

> perseverance

> > > in

> > > > > > > excavating truth and shown the way to gullible glib

> takers.

> > > You

> > > > > > have

> > > > > > > torn the masks of invisible Swine. Once this swine had

> > > insulted

> > > > > > > me " egoistic pig " [indirectly in message 73986 of

> 21stApril

> > > > > 2006],

> > > > > > > then I had left it to God, now at last the invisible

had

> > > > > evaporated

> > > > > > > after addressing all the members of the forum

> > as " spineless " .

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > God bless you,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > litsol <mishra.lalit@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Group,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > It looks that a fake id of MohanRaam is created to

> > counter

> > > > to

> > > > > > > other

> > > > > > > > Senior Astrologers of the group, Now, it is clear,

> there

> > > is

> > > > no

> > > > > > > > Mohanraam existing. Mohanraam says he posted all

mails

> > > from

> > > > > > Pandit

> > > > > > > > Dakschhinamurty's computer, He has not claimed that

he

> > > > posted

> > > > > > all

> > > > > > > > mails from my or ur's computer.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > So a strong doubt is, Either, it is PanditJi himself

> or

> > > his

> > > > > > > people,

> > > > > > > > whosoever it is, it's ridiculous and disgusting.

> > MohanRaam

> > > > can

> > > > > > > enter

> > > > > > > > into PanditJi's computer and can type in a mail and

> > more,

> > > he

> > > > > can

> > > > > > > send

> > > > > > > > it to group.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > But he cant enter into my mailbox to see who are the

> > group

> > > > > > members

> > > > > > > > sending mails to me , He claims that he was not a

> Major

> > > that

> > > > i

> > > > > > > > assumed, but what he was, he has not written ?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Leave it, Group u have seen how these people who

> swears

> > of

> > > > > veda

> > > > > > > > culture or vedic values are in real life, I m so sad

> > > today,

> > > > > they

> > > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > talk about seers like Kanchi Sankaracharya, but what

> > they

> > > > are

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > > real ?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Panditji has good knowledge of astrology, Why he

needs

> a

> > > > sort

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > > Mohanraam .... Why ?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > What u will say, ambition, greed or insecurity ? Or

a

> > wish

> > > > to

> > > > > > > become

> > > > > > > > an icon in the field of Astrology...

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Have u noticed, This MOHANRAAM equates him to PT.

> SANJAY

> > > > RATH-

> > > > > > 44

> > > > > > > yr,

> > > > > > > > PV NARSIMHA RAO - 37 yr, who are half of his claimed

> > > age...,

> > > > > Who

> > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > doing this sort of claims, who is gettting

benefitted.

> a

> > > 86

> > > > > year

> > > > > > > old

> > > > > > > > man ?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > See, this was a ghost in the group, which happen to

> > fight

> > > > with

> > > > > a

> > > > > > > > Software Engineer and trapped in the broad day

light,

> > > before

> > > > > all

> > > > > > > 7719

> > > > > > > > members of the group.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Shame !!!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > And i m sorry, i was made instrumental to expose,

had

> he

> > > not

> > > > > > said

> > > > > > > i m

> > > > > > > > suffering from such and such psychological

> disorderness,

> > I

> > > > w'd

> > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > have tried to expose the two faces of one man.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > vedic astrology , " mohanraaam "

> > > > > > <mohanraaam@>

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Lalith:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > You need not trouble yourself with tracing the IP

> > > > > > > address.....You

> > > > > > > > > will get the IP address of Panditji only if you

> trace

> > > it.

> > > > I

> > > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > > been sending it from his computer only.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Yesterday night, we had a long session of

exchange;

> at

> > > > that

> > > > > > time

> > > > > > > > > Panditji was asleep, and his younger brother and

> > mother

> > > > were

> > > > > > > also

> > > > > > > > > there in the house at that time. His computer was

> > > inside

> > > > > his

> > > > > > > > locked

> > > > > > > > > office room.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > You who speak of miracles must know that there are

> > > people

> > > > > > > capable

> > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > doing those things. I have consumed large amounts

> of

> > > food

> > > > > > from

> > > > > > > his

> > > > > > > > > house which no normal human being can do.......His

> > whole

> > > > > > family

> > > > > > > > knows

> > > > > > > > > of all these. They are all perplexed by that.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Guruji has himself traced the IP id once to his

own

> > > > computer

> > > > > > > when

> > > > > > > > he

> > > > > > > > > got it traced through a software engineer client

of

> > > > > his...So,

> > > > > > it

> > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > nothing new.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > By the way, I was not a major in the Indian army

> > during

> > > > the

> > > > > > > > > Bangladesh war....how did you assume I was only

> > > > a " major " ?

> > > > > > What

> > > > > > > > > makes you think that I did not serve earlier wars?

> > What

> > > > > makes

> > > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > think that I was not a Brigadier at that time?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Young man you have a long way to go in occult to

> > > > understand

> > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > many

> > > > > > > > > miracles can happen in normal life.......I have

not

> > > > > threatened

> > > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > with death or anything......I had infact openly

> > written

> > > > that

> > > > > I

> > > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > > not even cursed you.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Guruji has no connection with me; he is not asking

> me

> > to

> > > > do

> > > > > > what

> > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > am

> > > > > > > > > doing. I have been typing from his computer -

> > sometimes

> > > > > even

> > > > > > as

> > > > > > > he

> > > > > > > > > is chatting with clients, I have sent mails from

his

> > > email

> > > > > > id.

> > > > > > > You

> > > > > > > > > can check the time stamps to confirm this. One

> > software

> > > > > > > engineer

> > > > > > > > who

> > > > > > > > > traced this (on the request of Panditji himself)

> found

> > > > that

> > > > > 5

> > > > > > > > > different mails had been sent at the same time

that

> > too

> > > in

> > > > > > > detail

> > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > in reply to mails received at the same time (it

was

> > not

> > > a

> > > > > > stored

> > > > > > > > mail

> > > > > > > > > being sent; but a live mail sent as a reply to 5

> > > different

> > > > > > > persons).

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > So, tracing IP address will prove nothing. You

may

> > > > > > erraneously

> > > > > > > > > assume that Panditji or someone in his family

might

> be

> > > > doing

> > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > (he

> > > > > > > > > has parallel connection and his brother uses the

> other

> > > > > > > connection

> > > > > > > > > from his room; so you might assume that if it is

not

> > > > > Panditji,

> > > > > > > > > someone close to him is doing that......But even

> that

> > is

> > > > not

> > > > > > > true.

> > > > > > > > > His family is as perplexed by some of my

activities

> as

> > > you

> > > > > are

> > > > > > > all!)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > If Panditji and I are the same, how come he

receives

> > my

> > > > > mails?

> > > > > > > Why

> > > > > > > > > does he write to my email id? Is it humanly

> possible

> > to

> > > > > > > maintain

> > > > > > > > > such elaborate set up, and what purpose it will

> serve?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Your doubt is not baseless, but a simple logical

> > > thinking

> > > > > will

> > > > > > > tell

> > > > > > > > > you that it is not possible for a man of his

> schedule

> > to

> > > > > > indulge

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > empty antics like that!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > If the group can believe this, let them believe.

I

> > have

> > > > > said

> > > > > > > THE

> > > > > > > > > TRUTH.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Mohanraaam.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , " litsol "

> > > > > > <mishra.lalit@>

> > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I will put my observations :

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Pt. Dakschhinamurty has good knowledge of

> Astrology

> > > and

> > > > > has

> > > > > > > good

> > > > > > > > > > collection of classics. his has good writing

> skills,

> > > > soft

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > convincing.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > He owns a Master degree in Psychology.....

(mind

> it)

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > And this MohanRaam.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Observe his way of writing, same sort of

> composition

> > > in

> > > > > > > english

> > > > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > > > Pt. Dakschhina has.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > U see, this MohanRaam repeatedly uses some

medical

> > > terms

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > > mental

> > > > > > > > > > disorderness, talks about Psychology and

> > > Psychiatrists,

> > > > > > > discusses

> > > > > > > > > > symptoms and suggests remedies ......

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Now, watch him closely..., what he claims,

> > astutely !!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > He spreads teror, a scaremonger , He owns

> > destructive

> > > > > occult

> > > > > > > > power,

> > > > > > > > > > and if u speak a bit about Pt. Dakschhinamurty,

He

> > > will

> > > > > > curse

> > > > > > > u,

> > > > > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > > > kill u.. and bla bla...

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Pt. Dakschhinamurthy has been selected in

defence

> > for

> > > > the

> > > > > > > > position

> > > > > > > > > > of " Commander " or something like this ....

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Mohanraam gives his introduction like he was in

> > army,

> > > > > > > > participated

> > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > bangladesh war...

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > his age is 86+.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > now calculate, he was an officer in army, well,

> his

> > > > > > > designation

> > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > not known, assuming he was a Major in army, the

> > > average

> > > > > age

> > > > > > > for a

> > > > > > > > > > major in army is 35-37.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > bangladesh war happened in 1971, if we add 36+36

=

> > 72,

> > > > He

> > > > > > > can't

> > > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > > 86, may be he was not a major/col. also.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Now, come to, His typing...

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Looks, He writes faster than a paid typist, with

> no

> > > > > > mistakes,

> > > > > > > > > > beleive, he is 86... and his fingers are so nice.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > He has only one pupose, that is to spread terror

> of

> > > his

> > > > > > > > > > occultpower.., How, By creating a Psychological

> Game

> > > to

> > > > > curb

> > > > > > > > > other's

> > > > > > > > > > opinions, amd particularly if there is any thing

> > > related

> > > > > > with

> > > > > > > Pt.

> > > > > > > > > > Dakschhinamurty.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I have not traced his IP address, wherefrom he

> posts

> > > his

> > > > > > > mails,

> > > > > > > > > But,

> > > > > > > > > > I m prone to think, Some Nexus, Some Link

between

> > two

> > > > mail

> > > > > > Ids.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I leave it to the group to observe his behavior.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > vedic-

> astrology , " mohanraaam "

> > > > > > > > <mohanraaam@>

> > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Lalith has made a serious allegation

that " there

> > is

> > > a

> > > > > > nexus

> > > > > > > > > between

> > > > > > > > > > > me and Pandit Dakshinamoorthi " ....There have

> been

> > > > > certain

> > > > > > > other

> > > > > > > > > > > persons also who have alluded to that in the

> > > past....I

> > > > > > want

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > clarify on that.....

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I accept that definitely I am an admirer of

> Pandit

> > > > > > > > > > Dakshinamoorthiji

> > > > > > > > > > > because as an elderly yogi who has seen life,

> very

> > > > > rarely

> > > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > > come

> > > > > > > > > > > across a person of such a calibre and

definitely

> > not

> > > > in

> > > > > > this

> > > > > > > > > > present

> > > > > > > > > > > generation. So, I do write glowingly about

him,

> > and

> > > I

> > > > > do

> > > > > > > get

> > > > > > > > > > tensed

> > > > > > > > > > > when someone attacks him, and retort with

mails.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > But, there is no unholy nexus between us. I

am

> > not

> > > > > > a " paid "

> > > > > > > > > > agent.

> > > > > > > > > > > I write only what I have felt about him. I

have

> > no

> > > > mal

> > > > > > > > > intentions

> > > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > that. I do not think Panditji needs a person

> like

> > > me

> > > > to

> > > > > > > sing

> > > > > > > > his

> > > > > > > > > > > praise; as someone in this group wrote

> > > > > earlier " Knowledge

> > > > > > > needs

> > > > > > > > > no

> > > > > > > > > > > introduction " , and Panditji's knowledge would

> have

> > > > been

> > > > > > > obvious

> > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > everyone in the group.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I am supporting Panditji only because as you

all

> > > might

> > > > > be

> > > > > > > > aware,

> > > > > > > > > he

> > > > > > > > > > > was not contributing to the group regularly

for

> > > > > sometime;

> > > > > > > when

> > > > > > > > > > asked,

> > > > > > > > > > > he said that there were unnecessary

> controversies

> > > and

> > > > he

> > > > > > > felt

> > > > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > beneath a scholar to indulge in unsavoury

> > exchanges,

> > > > at

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > same

> > > > > > > > > > > time, as a practising professional he cannot

> > afford

> > > to

> > > > > > keep

> > > > > > > > quite

> > > > > > > > > > if

> > > > > > > > > > > someone attacks his professionalism which

might

> > > spoil

> > > > > his

> > > > > > > > > > > professional image. So, I brought him back

with

> > the

> > > > > > promise

> > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > > > will be his mouthpiece and spokesperson to

> defend

> > > him

> > > > if

> > > > > > > > > unsavoury

> > > > > > > > > > > controversies arise. Even initially, it was

on

> my

> > > > > > > invitation

> > > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > > Guruji joined this group in the first

instance.

> I

> > > did

> > > > > > this

> > > > > > > > only

> > > > > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > > the benefit of the learner of the group.

Guruji

> is

> > a

> > > > > very

> > > > > > > > private

> > > > > > > > > > > person who tends to hide his Glow in a

bushel.

> I

> > > > wanted

> > > > > > his

> > > > > > > > > > > intelligence and wisdom to benefit many and

that

> > is

> > > > why

> > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > > introduced

> > > > > > > > > > > him to the group; and I support him and write

> > mails

> > > > only

> > > > > > so

> > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > he

> > > > > > > > > > > does not quit the group due to unsavoury

> > incidents.

> > > > Old

> > > > > > > > members

> > > > > > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > > > > remember that I was once even banned from the

> > group.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Other than this, there is no other unholy or

mal

> > > > > > intentions

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > > > supporting Guruji. Definitely, this is not at

> his

> > > > > > request.

> > > > > > > He

> > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > not one to make such requests. He will be

> patient

> > > to

> > > > > his

> > > > > > > > limits;

> > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > if his limit exceeds, he will just walk away

> from

> > > the

> > > > > > group

> > > > > > > > which

> > > > > > > > > > > will be the loss to the group. That is why,

in

> an

> > > > > attempt

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > retain

> > > > > > > > > > > his services here, I do write supporting him.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > In exchanges with Lalith, Guruji is not

involved

> > at

> > > > > all.

> > > > > > In

> > > > > > > > > fact,

> > > > > > > > > > he

> > > > > > > > > > > requested me not to fight with Lalith and

asked

> me

> > > to

> > > > > > ignore

> > > > > > > > > him.

> > > > > > > > > > > But, the challenging tone of Lalith only

impels

> me

> > > to

> > > > > > write

> > > > > > > > again

> > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > again. But, Guruji's name is unnecessarily

> drawn

> > > into

> > > > > > this.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > THE TRUTH IS THAT I HAVE SEEN GURUJI; BUT

GURUJI

> > HAS

> > > > NOT

> > > > > > > SEEN

> > > > > > > > ME

> > > > > > > > > > EVEN

> > > > > > > > > > > ONCE IN HIS LIFE.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Blessings,

> > > > > > > > > > > Mohanraaam

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives

> > > answers,

> > > > > not

> > > > > > > web links.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

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