Guest guest Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 Dear Group: Let me clarify....Mr. Lalith is again trying to present a wrong picture as he always does according to his inherently perverted logic. I did not voluntarily write to various persons seeking support....when they requested me to continue in this group, I wrote back to them stating my stance..... " IT IS EITHER MR. LALITH OR ME " That is all to this. This is consistent with my stated stance. He has maligned my honour and his present mail also continues in the same vein. Mr. Lalith is behaving like a third rate investigative journalist who can only be satisfied by scams and in tarnishing established reputations whether those charges are consistent with the person's known behaviour or not! Such indecency is definitely affecting my peace of mind and in turn affecting my routines. I have hug backlog of appointments and I am not at my best. That is what I wrote to this man long back also..... This fellow believes a ghost can spoil his life from a distance, but an occultist cannot type from a computer! The essence is... " If something happens to Mr. Lalith, or if Mr. Lalith approves of it, it is correct...otherwise, if he finds it difficult to believe, it is wrong! " A person of my nature cannot co-exist with such arrogant attitudes. He says that he will support me.....who else is attacking me except him? Only because of his persistent tagging me and dragging me into controversies this unfortunate incident has come up! I am openly stating a final word UNLESS MR. LALITH IS BANNED FROM THIS GROUP AND I RECEIVE A PERSONAL MAIL STATING THE SAME I WILL NOT CONTINUE IN THIS GROUP. There is no secret in this. I am a straightforward person. I have never hidden my preferences or nature from anyone. Blessed be. Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. vedic astrology , " litsol " <mishra.lalit wrote: > > Dear Group, > > Do u know, Pt Dakschhinamurty Ji has written mails to people like > Arjun Pandit to support him. If he has no links with MohanRaam, i > will be first to support him, i took a paid consultation from him. > > See, i m very clear tht there is a good astrologer exist with him, > with you, i too appeciate him, bt seems there is another side of the > coin too. > > PanditJi pls. stop saying that MohanRaam uses ur computer to post > mails and u dont know him, Pls. stop saying that he is such a > accomplished person in occult science that he can flew in the air and > access one's mailbox, if it's, why he didn't access my mailbox. He > is no more !! > > Perhapse Arjun Pandit Ji has forgotten me, well, m not begining > another chapter of controversy. > > I think every one has right to exist and do the business but no one > has right to exploit simple and gullible members who come to the > group like i came, such people people started business doing with a > psychological strategy. > > Well, No MOhanraam is appearing here, What a great psychological game > is was, he did write to me - " I m going to send u a message, a sample > of what mohanraam is, this will open ur eyes ... " , > > And Group u know, a Sr. astrologer called me around 11 pm, he was too > worried for my safety , He said they people might have harmful occult > siddhis ...., he suggested me to not to enter into any fight with > them.... this sort of terror was being spread by people like > mohanraam. > > He as taling about Veda and Upveda..... > > ... and world has seen what siddhi's this mohanraam had > > > > Pls. mind, if i had any weakness in my heart and mind, what w'd have > happened to me, if my faith on my divine mother have been a little > less, what w'd have happened to me.... > > yes, few people has correctly said - " Truth Wins.. " . Truth has won. > > The Game is over. > > regards, > Lalit. > > > > > vedic astrology , " dakshinastrologer " > <dakshinastrologer@> wrote: > > > > Dear Shri. Karunaakaram Raaghavam: > > > > Do you mean to say that you also suspect me of being Mohanraaamji? > > And the word " swine " does it apply to me? Shri. Lalith has not > > merely attacked Mohanraaamji....He has alleged that I am > Mohanraaamji > > though I had refuted it to him time and again.....Your mail also > > seems to indicate such a thought process........ > > > > I would have been happy if at least you who got some intricate > > clarifications on shaastraas done through me on a honorary basis > had > > said something like " I also had trouble with Mohanraaamji, but he > > cannot be Pandit Dakshinamoorthi. Pandit Dakshinamoorthiji will not > > stoop to such low levels " . > > > > Thanks for your mail...I was undecided about my decision taken in > an > > upset mood in the evening about quitting the group. But your mail > > has exposed one truth about the members of the group.......People > who > > are gentle and believe in the innate goodness of persons like me > are > > very silent and circumspect in their respect; They are just asking > me > > not to quit because " the group needs my presence! " . I have not so > > far got even one mail in this group saying that Panditji would not > > have done anything bad; But those who criticise others are most > vocal > > in raising a ruckus and joining hands - whether the subject of > > criticism deserves such a censure or not. Have I ever ever spoken > > one word against you in this forum; touch your heart and say!...and > > when you asked a doubt did I not clarify it? Did I ask you money > for > > it? After getting knowledge clarifications from me, it is a nice > > gesture you have shown me! > > > > This obviously is not a place for a person like me. I have > respected > > my Gurus with all my heart and would not even hear one word spoken > > wrongly of them. But, such a mentality is not found here. > > > > Blessed be. > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. > > > > vedic astrology , KARUNAAKARAM RAAGHAVAM > > <munisevitham@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > Mr.Lalit Mishra, > > > > > > Thank you very much; I am happy about your perseverance in > > excavating truth and shown the way to gullible glib takers. You > have > > torn the masks of invisible Swine. Once this swine had insulted > > me " egoistic pig " [indirectly in message 73986 of 21stApril 2006], > > then I had left it to God, now at last the invisible had evaporated > > after addressing all the members of the forum as " spineless " . > > > > > > God bless you, > > > > > > litsol <mishra.lalit@> wrote: > > Dear Group, > > > > > > It looks that a fake id of MohanRaam is created to counter to > > other > > > Senior Astrologers of the group, Now, it is clear, there is no > > > Mohanraam existing. Mohanraam says he posted all mails from > Pandit > > > Dakschhinamurty's computer, He has not claimed that he posted > all > > > mails from my or ur's computer. > > > > > > So a strong doubt is, Either, it is PanditJi himself or his > > people, > > > whosoever it is, it's ridiculous and disgusting. MohanRaam can > > enter > > > into PanditJi's computer and can type in a mail and more, he can > > send > > > it to group. > > > > > > But he cant enter into my mailbox to see who are the group > members > > > sending mails to me , He claims that he was not a Major that i > > > assumed, but what he was, he has not written ? > > > > > > Leave it, Group u have seen how these people who swears of veda > > > culture or vedic values are in real life, I m so sad today, they > > will > > > talk about seers like Kanchi Sankaracharya, but what they are in > > > real ? > > > > > > Panditji has good knowledge of astrology, Why he needs a sort of > > > Mohanraam .... Why ? > > > > > > What u will say, ambition, greed or insecurity ? Or a wish to > > become > > > an icon in the field of Astrology... > > > > > > Have u noticed, This MOHANRAAM equates him to PT. SANJAY RATH- > 44 > > yr, > > > PV NARSIMHA RAO - 37 yr, who are half of his claimed age..., Who > > is > > > doing this sort of claims, who is gettting benefitted. a 86 year > > old > > > man ? > > > > > > See, this was a ghost in the group, which happen to fight with a > > > Software Engineer and trapped in the broad day light, before all > > 7719 > > > members of the group. > > > > > > Shame !!! > > > > > > And i m sorry, i was made instrumental to expose, had he not > said > > i m > > > suffering from such and such psychological disorderness, I w'd > not > > > have tried to expose the two faces of one man. > > > > > > regards, > > > Lalit. > > > > > > vedic astrology , " mohanraaam " > <mohanraaam@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Lalith: > > > > > > > > You need not trouble yourself with tracing the IP > > address.....You > > > > will get the IP address of Panditji only if you trace it. I > > have > > > > been sending it from his computer only. > > > > > > > > Yesterday night, we had a long session of exchange; at that > time > > > > Panditji was asleep, and his younger brother and mother were > > also > > > > there in the house at that time. His computer was inside his > > > locked > > > > office room. > > > > > > > > You who speak of miracles must know that there are people > > capable > > > of > > > > doing those things. I have consumed large amounts of food > from > > his > > > > house which no normal human being can do.......His whole > family > > > knows > > > > of all these. They are all perplexed by that. > > > > > > > > Guruji has himself traced the IP id once to his own computer > > when > > > he > > > > got it traced through a software engineer client of his...So, > it > > is > > > > nothing new. > > > > > > > > By the way, I was not a major in the Indian army during the > > > > Bangladesh war....how did you assume I was only a " major " ? > What > > > > makes you think that I did not serve earlier wars? What makes > > you > > > > think that I was not a Brigadier at that time? > > > > > > > > Young man you have a long way to go in occult to understand > that > > > many > > > > miracles can happen in normal life.......I have not threatened > > you > > > > with death or anything......I had infact openly written that I > > have > > > > not even cursed you. > > > > > > > > Guruji has no connection with me; he is not asking me to do > what > > I > > > am > > > > doing. I have been typing from his computer - sometimes even > as > > he > > > > is chatting with clients, I have sent mails from his email > id. > > You > > > > can check the time stamps to confirm this. One software > > engineer > > > who > > > > traced this (on the request of Panditji himself) found that 5 > > > > different mails had been sent at the same time that too in > > detail > > > and > > > > in reply to mails received at the same time (it was not a > stored > > > mail > > > > being sent; but a live mail sent as a reply to 5 different > > persons). > > > > > > > > So, tracing IP address will prove nothing. You may > erraneously > > > > assume that Panditji or someone in his family might be doing > > that > > > (he > > > > has parallel connection and his brother uses the other > > connection > > > > from his room; so you might assume that if it is not Panditji, > > > > someone close to him is doing that......But even that is not > > true. > > > > His family is as perplexed by some of my activities as you are > > all!) > > > > > > > > If Panditji and I are the same, how come he receives my mails? > > Why > > > > does he write to my email id? Is it humanly possible to > > maintain > > > > such elaborate set up, and what purpose it will serve? > > > > > > > > Your doubt is not baseless, but a simple logical thinking will > > tell > > > > you that it is not possible for a man of his schedule to > indulge > > in > > > > empty antics like that! > > > > > > > > If the group can believe this, let them believe. I have said > > THE > > > > TRUTH. > > > > > > > > Mohanraaam. > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , " litsol " > <mishra.lalit@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I will put my observations : > > > > > > > > > > Pt. Dakschhinamurty has good knowledge of Astrology and has > > good > > > > > collection of classics. his has good writing skills, soft > and > > > > > convincing. > > > > > > > > > > He owns a Master degree in Psychology..... (mind it) > > > > > > > > > > And this MohanRaam. > > > > > > > > > > Observe his way of writing, same sort of composition in > > english > > > as > > > > > Pt. Dakschhina has. > > > > > > > > > > U see, this MohanRaam repeatedly uses some medical terms of > > > mental > > > > > disorderness, talks about Psychology and Psychiatrists, > > discusses > > > > > symptoms and suggests remedies ...... > > > > > > > > > > Now, watch him closely..., what he claims, astutely !! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He spreads teror, a scaremonger , He owns destructive occult > > > power, > > > > > and if u speak a bit about Pt. Dakschhinamurty, He will > curse > > u, > > > > will > > > > > kill u.. and bla bla... > > > > > > > > > > Pt. Dakschhinamurthy has been selected in defence for the > > > position > > > > > of " Commander " or something like this .... > > > > > > > > > > Mohanraam gives his introduction like he was in army, > > > participated > > > > in > > > > > bangladesh war... > > > > > > > > > > his age is 86+. > > > > > > > > > > now calculate, he was an officer in army, well, his > > designation > > > is > > > > > not known, assuming he was a Major in army, the average age > > for a > > > > > major in army is 35-37. > > > > > > > > > > bangladesh war happened in 1971, if we add 36+36 = 72, He > > can't > > > be > > > > > 86, may be he was not a major/col. also. > > > > > > > > > > Now, come to, His typing... > > > > > > > > > > Looks, He writes faster than a paid typist, with no > mistakes, > > > > > beleive, he is 86... and his fingers are so nice. > > > > > > > > > > He has only one pupose, that is to spread terror of his > > > > > occultpower.., How, By creating a Psychological Game to curb > > > > other's > > > > > opinions, amd particularly if there is any thing related > with > > Pt. > > > > > Dakschhinamurty. > > > > > > > > > > I have not traced his IP address, wherefrom he posts his > > mails, > > > > But, > > > > > I m prone to think, Some Nexus, Some Link between two mail > Ids. > > > > > > > > > > I leave it to the group to observe his behavior. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , " mohanraaam " > > > <mohanraaam@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group: > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalith has made a serious allegation that " there is a > nexus > > > > between > > > > > > me and Pandit Dakshinamoorthi " ....There have been certain > > other > > > > > > persons also who have alluded to that in the past....I > want > > to > > > > > > clarify on that..... > > > > > > > > > > > > I accept that definitely I am an admirer of Pandit > > > > > Dakshinamoorthiji > > > > > > because as an elderly yogi who has seen life, very rarely > > have > > > I > > > > > come > > > > > > across a person of such a calibre and definitely not in > this > > > > > present > > > > > > generation. So, I do write glowingly about him, and I do > > get > > > > > tensed > > > > > > when someone attacks him, and retort with mails. > > > > > > > > > > > > But, there is no unholy nexus between us. I am not > a " paid " > > > > > agent. > > > > > > I write only what I have felt about him. I have no mal > > > > intentions > > > > > in > > > > > > that. I do not think Panditji needs a person like me to > > sing > > > his > > > > > > praise; as someone in this group wrote earlier " Knowledge > > needs > > > > no > > > > > > introduction " , and Panditji's knowledge would have been > > obvious > > > > to > > > > > > everyone in the group. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am supporting Panditji only because as you all might be > > > aware, > > > > he > > > > > > was not contributing to the group regularly for sometime; > > when > > > > > asked, > > > > > > he said that there were unnecessary controversies and he > > felt > > > it > > > > is > > > > > > beneath a scholar to indulge in unsavoury exchanges, at > the > > > same > > > > > > time, as a practising professional he cannot afford to > keep > > > quite > > > > > if > > > > > > someone attacks his professionalism which might spoil his > > > > > > professional image. So, I brought him back with the > promise > > > that > > > > I > > > > > > will be his mouthpiece and spokesperson to defend him if > > > > unsavoury > > > > > > controversies arise. Even initially, it was on my > > invitation > > > > that > > > > > > Guruji joined this group in the first instance. I did > this > > > only > > > > > for > > > > > > the benefit of the learner of the group. Guruji is a very > > > private > > > > > > person who tends to hide his Glow in a bushel. I wanted > his > > > > > > intelligence and wisdom to benefit many and that is why I > > > > > introduced > > > > > > him to the group; and I support him and write mails only > so > > > that > > > > he > > > > > > does not quit the group due to unsavoury incidents. Old > > > members > > > > > will > > > > > > remember that I was once even banned from the group. > > > > > > > > > > > > Other than this, there is no other unholy or mal > intentions > > in > > > my > > > > > > supporting Guruji. Definitely, this is not at his > request. > > He > > > > is > > > > > > not one to make such requests. He will be patient to his > > > limits; > > > > > and > > > > > > if his limit exceeds, he will just walk away from the > group > > > which > > > > > > will be the loss to the group. That is why, in an attempt > > to > > > > > retain > > > > > > his services here, I do write supporting him. > > > > > > > > > > > > In exchanges with Lalith, Guruji is not involved at all. > In > > > > fact, > > > > > he > > > > > > requested me not to fight with Lalith and asked me to > ignore > > > > him. > > > > > > But, the challenging tone of Lalith only impels me to > write > > > again > > > > > and > > > > > > again. But, Guruji's name is unnecessarily drawn into > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > THE TRUTH IS THAT I HAVE SEEN GURUJI; BUT GURUJI HAS NOT > > SEEN > > > ME > > > > > EVEN > > > > > > ONCE IN HIS LIFE. > > > > > > > > > > > > Blessings, > > > > > > Mohanraaam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not > > web links. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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