Guest guest Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 Shindi <sinhazz vedic astrology Friday, August 3, 2007 6:50:33 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: regarding 108 Hi lalit can u please share your birth details with us... At least we should know wht sort of birth chart you have which has given you such divine things...... ... litsol <mishra.lalit@ gmail.com> vedic astrology Friday, August 3, 2007 6:38:47 PM [vedic astrology] Re: regarding 108 Mona Ji, As per me and what i saw in my life, u r going in right direction. this is the way one has to move on. count to countless. Most people derive their faith from what they hear or said, better way to have faith is to experiment and realize. Have u faced any bad result on account of ur's not counting propely. See, i have chanted mantra mainly for Maa Durga, but in June, Lord Ram was standing by my headside, I saw him, while i got up in the morning, and thought to read Times of India. I have to say this to you, It happened without counting and without invoking lord Rama. Who knows how they blesses you. And if it can happen to me, it can happen to any one, this is the purpose of sharing, otherwise, i can be declared mad easily by those who have not experienced. Panditji will tell u what is there in shastras. regards, Lalit. vedic astrology, Mona <due0803 > wrote: > > Dear Sir, > > I just have a question on the japa count. I have a habit of saying 'RAM' pretty much all the time. Sometimes I feel that I am saying even while sleeping, most of the times it just keeps going on involuntarily. However, I do not keep a count of how many times I am reciting the name. I also used to write RAM in books, I don't remember how many I have written. Am I doing something wrong by not counting? Is it always necessary to count any sloka or Lord's name? I'd really appreciate your answer. > Regards, > Mona > > > dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer@ ...> wrote: vedic- astrology@grou ps.com > " dakshinastrologer " <dakshinastrologer@ ...> > Fri, 27 Jul 2007 07:22:13 -0000 > [vedic astrology] Re: regarding 108 > > Dear Shri. Srinivasamurthy: > > Actually the japa maala is not merely an initial stage tool. It has > esoteric values far beyond our comprehension. Otherwise, why would > great siddha purushaas, saints like Aadi Shankaraachaarya, Shri > Raaghavendra, etc. have used the japa maala? > > Let us not confuse devotion and mantrik procedures here at all. A > pure bhakta almost never chants Moola mantraas except the naama japam > of his Ishta Devataa. > > Regarding the counts, even Satguru Thyaagaraajaa was advised to > perform Raama Naama japam for certain count by no less a personage > than Sage Naarada in disguise, and the Satguru reached such an > exalted spiritual status only after he finished the count of japam. > > It is like, you have to give me 5000000 rupees, if you say that you > will give me whatever you can with devotion, will it suffice to me? > Likewise, when the debt that we incur to the sages by using their > teachings and mantras can be paid back only after we finish certain > initial counts on the mantras with proper procedures. This process > is called Purascharanaa. After this, the mantra become " Swaadeena " > to you. So, you can do what you want with that. Just a single chant > of the mantra will give manifest results. > > Lord Hanumaan did not keep on chanting Raama naama japam for 100 > years to cross Sri Lanka. It was a single Leap of Faith with the > chant " Jai Shri Raam " . But, can we say that we are THAT level of > devotion? Concepts like " advanced practitioners do not need that " are > o.k. in truth, but in reality they will rather mislead the > aspirants. We are all egoistic. So, after some initial saadhanaas, > we will tend to assume " I have reached this level; so it is not > necessary for me " ....while in reality, we may not be qualified for > such exalted status that warrants exemption of rituals. > > So, it is better to err on the conservative side.....by following > rituals and practises as ordained by sages and traditions instead of > diluting them to fit our theoretical perspectives. > > A SPIRITUALLY ADVANCED PRACTITIONER WILL NOT LOSE ANYTHING BY > FOLLOWING THESE RITUALS....IT DOES NOT MATTER WHETHER ONE FOLLOWS > THESE PERCEPTS OR NOT AT THAT LEVEL.....THEIR SPIRITUALITY WILL NOT > COME DOWN BY THESE! BY AN INITIAL STAGE SAADHAKAA WHO ASSUMES > WRONGLY THAT HIS SYSTEM IS ALREADY TUNED TO THE MANTRAS WILL FIND > THAT THE PRACTICE WILL SLIP OUT OF HIS HABITS GRADUALLY WITHOUT THESE > RITUALS AND COUNTERCHECKS LIKE JAPA MAALA, JAPA COUNT, POOJA, ETC. > MAN IS INNATELY LAZY AND EGOISTIC, AND OUR MIND WILL ALWAYS FIND > EXCUSES FOR OUR ACTIONS. > > Following the precepts of sages verbatim to the extent possible is in > itself a tapasya! > > This post is just a suggestion to all spiritual aspirants. Those who > want to follow this may follow; others may kindly ignore this. > > Blessed be. > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. > > vedic astrology, srinivasa murthy adavi > <asmp2k02@> wrote: > > > > Respected Learned Members, > > > > Both views may be correct when the views have/or with the goal as > development of Love/Devotion towards adhistana Devatha of the Mantra > as Base. > > In the initial stage only you need the count;as one develops the > habit the biological tuning of the intellect/body will automatically > take care of the practice(without count-help of malas etc). > > It's like if with the help of Alarm clock if we wake up for 2 or 3 > days at some appointed hour,then automatically we wakeup at the same > time every day without help of alarm. > > > > With due Respects > > > > smadavi > > > > > > Quoting starsuponme@ : > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > Dear Litsol, > > > > Definitely we should count our Mantra Japa on Mala. Your view is > against > > Vedic Authorities and Sages, so should be rejected. > > > > > > Regards, > > Rafal Gendarz > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > email: rafal@ > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > litsol napisa?(a): > > > > > > Dear Mr. Jayashri, > > > > > > A thought came, why i should not share with u, U pls. stop > counting > > > mantra chantings, counting mantra gives false ego and then > > > frustration if u dont get desired results. > > > > > > leave it to the god, god counts the mantra chanted by you may be > > > 108, 1008 or whatsoever, let him count, it's his part and ur part > is > > > to chant the mantra. when the mantra has to awaken, it will be, > god > > > will ensure it for u. > > > > > > sometimes we try to become more intelligent with out limited > > > intellect and that creates obstacles in our spiritual growth. > > > > > > So, forget about counts, forget about the time u put in for ur's > > > sadhana, invoke the god with pure heart. purity counts. > > > > > > regards, > > > Lalit. > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > <vedic- astrology% 40. com>, " dakshinastrologer " > > > <dakshinastrologer@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ms. Jayashree: > > > > > > > > I think this topic on 108 is getting very interesting and > > > > enlightening for all members. Yesterday we had a wonderful > > > esoteric > > > > explanation from Shri. Sushil Dikshit, and today your wonderful > > > > explanation of numerical symmetry of the cosmos! Wonderful. > > > > > > > > There definitely exists a " numerical symphony " in the Universe. > > > But, > > > > not only 108.....as I mentioned in my earlier post, there are > > > various > > > > other numerals that are significant in occult practices. 108 is > a > > > > powerful and all-purpose perfect number...While we have > understood > > > > the glory of 108, we should not lose sight of the fact that > there > > > are > > > > other powerful numbers also. This is just for the information of > > > the > > > > list. > > > > > > > > My apprecitation again for this wonderful response. > > > > > > > > Blessed be. > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. > > > > > > > > Blessed be. > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. vedic- > > > > astrology@grou ps.com <astrology% > 40. com>, > > > " jayasartn " <jayasartn@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > In cosmology, 108 has this significance - the moon is away > from > > > the > > > > > earth 108 times its (moon's) diameter and the sun is away > from the > > > > > earth, 108 times its diameter. > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps this reality of distances is applicable to deities > too. > > > > > Perhaps this has been indicated by the 108 divya desas of Lord > > > > Narayana. > > > > > > > > > > jayasree > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > <vedic- astrology% 40. com>, " dakshinastrologer " > > > > > <dakshinastrologer@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri. Sushil: > > > > > > > > > > > > It is a wonderful answer you have given. > > > > > > > > > > > > Blessed be. > > > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > <vedic- astrology% 40. com>, " sushil.dikshit " > > > > > > <sushil.dikshit@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Babu, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is not a silly question but it is a very good question. > > > > > > Actually > > > > > > > there are 27 Nakshatras and every Nakshtras has 4 Charan > so > > > > total > > > > > > > charans are 27 x 4 = 108 Charan. Each Charan has 3 degree > and > > > > 20 > > > > > > > minutes so if you multiply 3 degree and 20 minutes to 108 > it > > > > comes > > > > > > > out to be 360 degress i.e. one cycle (Circle). This cycle > > > > > > represetns > > > > > > > whole brahmand because all the rashis, planets and > nakshatra > > > > are > > > > > > > between these 360 degree in 2 dimensional horoscope. So > > > > chanting a > > > > > > > Mantra completes one cycle of this brahmand. Further One > who > > > > has > > > > > > > visited Brahamand at least one time i.e. he is > brahmagyani he > > > > is > > > > > > > entitiled to place 108 Shri before his name. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sushil dikshit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > <vedic- astrology% 40. com>, babu mon > > > > <muthappan111@ > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It may be a silly matter for all of you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I want to know what is the reason that some remedies > > > > recomended > > > > > > > for 108 times. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I dont know any thing about astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope you may pleased to provide a reply > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Babu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > > > > > > Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from > > > > someone > > > > > > > who knows. > > > > > > > > Answers - Check it out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 Amit, As of now, 3 Sr. astrologers of the group has asked me about my Chart, I have provided them my chart and got readings from them. I dont think u deserve it coz level of honesty and fairness is not seen upto my level of expectation. and i dont think u know a little Astrology. regards, Lalit. vedic astrology , Shindi <sinhazz wrote: > > > Shindi <sinhazz > vedic astrology > Friday, August 3, 2007 6:50:33 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: regarding 108 > > Hi lalit can u please share your birth details with us... > At least we should know wht sort of birth chart you have which has given you such divine things...... ... > > > litsol <mishra.lalit@ gmail.com> > vedic astrology > Friday, August 3, 2007 6:38:47 PM > [vedic astrology] Re: regarding 108 > > Mona Ji, > > As per me and what i saw in my life, u r going in right direction. > this is the way one has to move on. count to countless. > > Most people derive their faith from what they hear or said, better > way to have faith is to experiment and realize. > > Have u faced any bad result on account of ur's not counting propely. > > See, i have chanted mantra mainly for Maa Durga, but in June, Lord > Ram was standing by my headside, I saw him, while i got up in the > morning, and thought to read Times of India. > > I have to say this to you, It happened without counting and without > invoking lord Rama. Who knows how they blesses you. > > And if it can happen to me, it can happen to any one, this is the > purpose of sharing, otherwise, i can be declared mad easily by those > who have not experienced. > > Panditji will tell u what is there in shastras. > > regards, > Lalit. > > vedic astrology, Mona <due0803@ > wrote: > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > I just have a question on the japa count. I have a habit of > saying 'RAM' pretty much all the time. Sometimes I feel that I am > saying even while sleeping, most of the times it just keeps going on > involuntarily. However, I do not keep a count of how many times I am > reciting the name. I also used to write RAM in books, I don't > remember how many I have written. Am I doing something wrong by not > counting? Is it always necessary to count any sloka or Lord's name? > I'd really appreciate your answer. > > Regards, > > Mona > > > > > > dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer@ ...> wrote: vedic- > astrology@grou ps.com > > " dakshinastrologer " <dakshinastrologer@ ...> > > Fri, 27 Jul 2007 07:22:13 -0000 > > [vedic astrology] Re: regarding 108 > > > > Dear Shri. Srinivasamurthy: > > > > Actually the japa maala is not merely an initial stage tool. It has > > esoteric values far beyond our comprehension. Otherwise, why would > > great siddha purushaas, saints like Aadi Shankaraachaarya, Shri > > Raaghavendra, etc. have used the japa maala? > > > > Let us not confuse devotion and mantrik procedures here at all. A > > pure bhakta almost never chants Moola mantraas except the naama > japam > > of his Ishta Devataa. > > > > Regarding the counts, even Satguru Thyaagaraajaa was advised to > > perform Raama Naama japam for certain count by no less a personage > > than Sage Naarada in disguise, and the Satguru reached such an > > exalted spiritual status only after he finished the count of japam. > > > > It is like, you have to give me 5000000 rupees, if you say that you > > will give me whatever you can with devotion, will it suffice to me? > > Likewise, when the debt that we incur to the sages by using their > > teachings and mantras can be paid back only after we finish certain > > initial counts on the mantras with proper procedures. This process > > is called Purascharanaa. After this, the mantra become " Swaadeena " > > to you. So, you can do what you want with that. Just a single chant > > of the mantra will give manifest results. > > > > Lord Hanumaan did not keep on chanting Raama naama japam for 100 > > years to cross Sri Lanka. It was a single Leap of Faith with the > > chant " Jai Shri Raam " . But, can we say that we are THAT level of > > devotion? Concepts like " advanced practitioners do not need that " > are > > o.k. in truth, but in reality they will rather mislead the > > aspirants. We are all egoistic. So, after some initial saadhanaas, > > we will tend to assume " I have reached this level; so it is not > > necessary for me " ....while in reality, we may not be qualified for > > such exalted status that warrants exemption of rituals. > > > > So, it is better to err on the conservative side.....by following > > rituals and practises as ordained by sages and traditions instead > of > > diluting them to fit our theoretical perspectives. > > > > A SPIRITUALLY ADVANCED PRACTITIONER WILL NOT LOSE ANYTHING BY > > FOLLOWING THESE RITUALS....IT DOES NOT MATTER WHETHER ONE FOLLOWS > > THESE PERCEPTS OR NOT AT THAT LEVEL.....THEIR SPIRITUALITY WILL NOT > > COME DOWN BY THESE! BY AN INITIAL STAGE SAADHAKAA WHO ASSUMES > > WRONGLY THAT HIS SYSTEM IS ALREADY TUNED TO THE MANTRAS WILL FIND > > THAT THE PRACTICE WILL SLIP OUT OF HIS HABITS GRADUALLY WITHOUT > THESE > > RITUALS AND COUNTERCHECKS LIKE JAPA MAALA, JAPA COUNT, POOJA, ETC. > > MAN IS INNATELY LAZY AND EGOISTIC, AND OUR MIND WILL ALWAYS FIND > > EXCUSES FOR OUR ACTIONS. > > > > Following the precepts of sages verbatim to the extent possible is > in > > itself a tapasya! > > > > This post is just a suggestion to all spiritual aspirants. Those > who > > want to follow this may follow; others may kindly ignore this. > > > > Blessed be. > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. > > > > vedic astrology, srinivasa murthy adavi > > <asmp2k02@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Learned Members, > > > > > > Both views may be correct when the views have/or with the goal as > > development of Love/Devotion towards adhistana Devatha of the > Mantra > > as Base. > > > In the initial stage only you need the count;as one develops the > > habit the biological tuning of the intellect/body will > automatically > > take care of the practice(without count-help of malas etc). > > > It's like if with the help of Alarm clock if we wake up for 2 or > 3 > > days at some appointed hour,then automatically we wakeup at the > same > > time every day without help of alarm. > > > > > > With due Respects > > > > > > smadavi > > > > > > > > > Quoting starsuponme@ : > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > Dear Litsol, > > > > > > Definitely we should count our Mantra Japa on Mala. Your view is > > against > > > Vedic Authorities and Sages, so should be rejected. > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > email: rafal@ > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > > > litsol napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Jayashri, > > > > > > > > A thought came, why i should not share with u, U pls. stop > > counting > > > > mantra chantings, counting mantra gives false ego and then > > > > frustration if u dont get desired results. > > > > > > > > leave it to the god, god counts the mantra chanted by you may be > > > > 108, 1008 or whatsoever, let him count, it's his part and ur > part > > is > > > > to chant the mantra. when the mantra has to awaken, it will be, > > god > > > > will ensure it for u. > > > > > > > > sometimes we try to become more intelligent with out limited > > > > intellect and that creates obstacles in our spiritual growth. > > > > > > > > So, forget about counts, forget about the time u put in for ur's > > > > sadhana, invoke the god with pure heart. purity counts. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > <vedic- astrology% 40. com>, " dakshinastrologer " > > > > <dakshinastrologer@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ms. Jayashree: > > > > > > > > > > I think this topic on 108 is getting very interesting and > > > > > enlightening for all members. Yesterday we had a wonderful > > > > esoteric > > > > > explanation from Shri. Sushil Dikshit, and today your > wonderful > > > > > explanation of numerical symmetry of the cosmos! Wonderful. > > > > > > > > > > There definitely exists a " numerical symphony " in the > Universe. > > > > But, > > > > > not only 108.....as I mentioned in my earlier post, there are > > > > various > > > > > other numerals that are significant in occult practices. 108 > is > > a > > > > > powerful and all-purpose perfect number...While we have > > understood > > > > > the glory of 108, we should not lose sight of the fact that > > there > > > > are > > > > > other powerful numbers also. This is just for the information > of > > > > the > > > > > list. > > > > > > > > > > My apprecitation again for this wonderful response. > > > > > > > > > > Blessed be. > > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. > > > > > > > > > > Blessed be. > > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. vedic- > > > > > astrology@grou ps.com <astrology% > > 40. com>, > > > > " jayasartn " <jayasartn@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > In cosmology, 108 has this significance - the moon is away > > from > > > > the > > > > > > earth 108 times its (moon's) diameter and the sun is away > > from the > > > > > > earth, 108 times its diameter. > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps this reality of distances is applicable to deities > > too. > > > > > > Perhaps this has been indicated by the 108 divya desas of > Lord > > > > > Narayana. > > > > > > > > > > > > jayasree > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > <vedic- astrology% 40. com>, " dakshinastrologer " > > > > > > <dakshinastrologer@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri. Sushil: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is a wonderful answer you have given. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blessed be. > > > > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > <vedic- astrology% 40. com>, " sushil.dikshit " > > > > > > > <sushil.dikshit@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Babu, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is not a silly question but it is a very good > question. > > > > > > > Actually > > > > > > > > there are 27 Nakshatras and every Nakshtras has 4 > Charan > > so > > > > > total > > > > > > > > charans are 27 x 4 = 108 Charan. Each Charan has 3 > degree > > and > > > > > 20 > > > > > > > > minutes so if you multiply 3 degree and 20 minutes to > 108 > > it > > > > > comes > > > > > > > > out to be 360 degress i.e. one cycle (Circle). This > cycle > > > > > > > represetns > > > > > > > > whole brahmand because all the rashis, planets and > > nakshatra > > > > > are > > > > > > > > between these 360 degree in 2 dimensional horoscope. So > > > > > chanting a > > > > > > > > Mantra completes one cycle of this brahmand. Further > One > > who > > > > > has > > > > > > > > visited Brahamand at least one time i.e. he is > > brahmagyani he > > > > > is > > > > > > > > entitiled to place 108 Shri before his name. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sushil dikshit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > <vedic- astrology% 40. com>, babu mon > > > > > <muthappan111@ > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It may be a silly matter for all of you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I want to know what is the reason that some remedies > > > > > recomended > > > > > > > > for 108 times. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I dont know any thing about astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope you may pleased to provide a reply > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Babu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > > > > > > > Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers > from > > > > > someone > > > > > > > > who knows. > > > > > > > > > Answers - Check it out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 I have not asked for predicting............. I have just asked it for my research purpose........... behaviour of a person based on natal chart.......... Well for other things. You will very soon see a published research paper on this........... Buckled:) litsol <mishra.lalit vedic astrology Monday, August 6, 2007 1:14:45 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Lalit ur answer??????????????? Amit, As of now, 3 Sr. astrologers of the group has asked me about my Chart, I have provided them my chart and got readings from them. I dont think u deserve it coz level of honesty and fairness is not seen upto my level of expectation. and i dont think u know a little Astrology. regards, Lalit. vedic astrology, Shindi <sinhazz > wrote: > > > Shindi <sinhazz > > vedic astrology > Friday, August 3, 2007 6:50:33 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: regarding 108 > > Hi lalit can u please share your birth details with us... > At least we should know wht sort of birth chart you have which has given you such divine things...... ... > > > litsol <mishra.lalit@ gmail.com> > vedic astrology > Friday, August 3, 2007 6:38:47 PM > [vedic astrology] Re: regarding 108 > > Mona Ji, > > As per me and what i saw in my life, u r going in right direction. > this is the way one has to move on. count to countless. > > Most people derive their faith from what they hear or said, better > way to have faith is to experiment and realize. > > Have u faced any bad result on account of ur's not counting propely. > > See, i have chanted mantra mainly for Maa Durga, but in June, Lord > Ram was standing by my headside, I saw him, while i got up in the > morning, and thought to read Times of India. > > I have to say this to you, It happened without counting and without > invoking lord Rama. Who knows how they blesses you. > > And if it can happen to me, it can happen to any one, this is the > purpose of sharing, otherwise, i can be declared mad easily by those > who have not experienced. > > Panditji will tell u what is there in shastras. > > regards, > Lalit. > > vedic astrology, Mona <due0803@ > wrote: > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > I just have a question on the japa count. I have a habit of > saying 'RAM' pretty much all the time. Sometimes I feel that I am > saying even while sleeping, most of the times it just keeps going on > involuntarily. However, I do not keep a count of how many times I am > reciting the name. I also used to write RAM in books, I don't > remember how many I have written. Am I doing something wrong by not > counting? Is it always necessary to count any sloka or Lord's name? > I'd really appreciate your answer. > > Regards, > > Mona > > > > > > dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer@ ...> wrote: vedic- > astrology@grou ps.com > > " dakshinastrologer " <dakshinastrologer@ ...> > > Fri, 27 Jul 2007 07:22:13 -0000 > > [vedic astrology] Re: regarding 108 > > > > Dear Shri. Srinivasamurthy: > > > > Actually the japa maala is not merely an initial stage tool. It has > > esoteric values far beyond our comprehension. Otherwise, why would > > great siddha purushaas, saints like Aadi Shankaraachaarya, Shri > > Raaghavendra, etc. have used the japa maala? > > > > Let us not confuse devotion and mantrik procedures here at all. A > > pure bhakta almost never chants Moola mantraas except the naama > japam > > of his Ishta Devataa. > > > > Regarding the counts, even Satguru Thyaagaraajaa was advised to > > perform Raama Naama japam for certain count by no less a personage > > than Sage Naarada in disguise, and the Satguru reached such an > > exalted spiritual status only after he finished the count of japam. > > > > It is like, you have to give me 5000000 rupees, if you say that you > > will give me whatever you can with devotion, will it suffice to me? > > Likewise, when the debt that we incur to the sages by using their > > teachings and mantras can be paid back only after we finish certain > > initial counts on the mantras with proper procedures. This process > > is called Purascharanaa. After this, the mantra become " Swaadeena " > > to you. So, you can do what you want with that. Just a single chant > > of the mantra will give manifest results. > > > > Lord Hanumaan did not keep on chanting Raama naama japam for 100 > > years to cross Sri Lanka. It was a single Leap of Faith with the > > chant " Jai Shri Raam " . But, can we say that we are THAT level of > > devotion? Concepts like " advanced practitioners do not need that " > are > > o.k. in truth, but in reality they will rather mislead the > > aspirants. We are all egoistic. So, after some initial saadhanaas, > > we will tend to assume " I have reached this level; so it is not > > necessary for me " ....while in reality, we may not be qualified for > > such exalted status that warrants exemption of rituals. > > > > So, it is better to err on the conservative side.....by following > > rituals and practises as ordained by sages and traditions instead > of > > diluting them to fit our theoretical perspectives. > > > > A SPIRITUALLY ADVANCED PRACTITIONER WILL NOT LOSE ANYTHING BY > > FOLLOWING THESE RITUALS....IT DOES NOT MATTER WHETHER ONE FOLLOWS > > THESE PERCEPTS OR NOT AT THAT LEVEL.....THEIR SPIRITUALITY WILL NOT > > COME DOWN BY THESE! BY AN INITIAL STAGE SAADHAKAA WHO ASSUMES > > WRONGLY THAT HIS SYSTEM IS ALREADY TUNED TO THE MANTRAS WILL FIND > > THAT THE PRACTICE WILL SLIP OUT OF HIS HABITS GRADUALLY WITHOUT > THESE > > RITUALS AND COUNTERCHECKS LIKE JAPA MAALA, JAPA COUNT, POOJA, ETC. > > MAN IS INNATELY LAZY AND EGOISTIC, AND OUR MIND WILL ALWAYS FIND > > EXCUSES FOR OUR ACTIONS. > > > > Following the precepts of sages verbatim to the extent possible is > in > > itself a tapasya! > > > > This post is just a suggestion to all spiritual aspirants. Those > who > > want to follow this may follow; others may kindly ignore this. > > > > Blessed be. > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. > > > > vedic astrology, srinivasa murthy adavi > > <asmp2k02@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Learned Members, > > > > > > Both views may be correct when the views have/or with the goal as > > development of Love/Devotion towards adhistana Devatha of the > Mantra > > as Base. > > > In the initial stage only you need the count;as one develops the > > habit the biological tuning of the intellect/body will > automatically > > take care of the practice(without count-help of malas etc). > > > It's like if with the help of Alarm clock if we wake up for 2 or > 3 > > days at some appointed hour,then automatically we wakeup at the > same > > time every day without help of alarm. > > > > > > With due Respects > > > > > > smadavi > > > > > > > > > Quoting starsuponme@ : > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > Dear Litsol, > > > > > > Definitely we should count our Mantra Japa on Mala. Your view is > > against > > > Vedic Authorities and Sages, so should be rejected. > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > email: rafal@ > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > > > litsol napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Jayashri, > > > > > > > > A thought came, why i should not share with u, U pls. stop > > counting > > > > mantra chantings, counting mantra gives false ego and then > > > > frustration if u dont get desired results. > > > > > > > > leave it to the god, god counts the mantra chanted by you may be > > > > 108, 1008 or whatsoever, let him count, it's his part and ur > part > > is > > > > to chant the mantra. when the mantra has to awaken, it will be, > > god > > > > will ensure it for u. > > > > > > > > sometimes we try to become more intelligent with out limited > > > > intellect and that creates obstacles in our spiritual growth. > > > > > > > > So, forget about counts, forget about the time u put in for ur's > > > > sadhana, invoke the god with pure heart. purity counts. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > <vedic- astrology% 40. com>, " dakshinastrologer " > > > > <dakshinastrologer@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ms. Jayashree: > > > > > > > > > > I think this topic on 108 is getting very interesting and > > > > > enlightening for all members. Yesterday we had a wonderful > > > > esoteric > > > > > explanation from Shri. Sushil Dikshit, and today your > wonderful > > > > > explanation of numerical symmetry of the cosmos! Wonderful. > > > > > > > > > > There definitely exists a " numerical symphony " in the > Universe. > > > > But, > > > > > not only 108.....as I mentioned in my earlier post, there are > > > > various > > > > > other numerals that are significant in occult practices. 108 > is > > a > > > > > powerful and all-purpose perfect number...While we have > > understood > > > > > the glory of 108, we should not lose sight of the fact that > > there > > > > are > > > > > other powerful numbers also. This is just for the information > of > > > > the > > > > > list. > > > > > > > > > > My apprecitation again for this wonderful response. > > > > > > > > > > Blessed be. > > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. > > > > > > > > > > Blessed be. > > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. vedic- > > > > > astrology@grou ps.com <astrology% > > 40. com>, > > > > " jayasartn " <jayasartn@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > In cosmology, 108 has this significance - the moon is away > > from > > > > the > > > > > > earth 108 times its (moon's) diameter and the sun is away > > from the > > > > > > earth, 108 times its diameter. > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps this reality of distances is applicable to deities > > too. > > > > > > Perhaps this has been indicated by the 108 divya desas of > Lord > > > > > Narayana. > > > > > > > > > > > > jayasree > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > <vedic- astrology% 40. com>, " dakshinastrologer " > > > > > > <dakshinastrologer@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri. Sushil: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is a wonderful answer you have given. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blessed be. > > > > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > <vedic- astrology% 40. com>, " sushil.dikshit " > > > > > > > <sushil.dikshit@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Babu, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is not a silly question but it is a very good > question. > > > > > > > Actually > > > > > > > > there are 27 Nakshatras and every Nakshtras has 4 > Charan > > so > > > > > total > > > > > > > > charans are 27 x 4 = 108 Charan. Each Charan has 3 > degree > > and > > > > > 20 > > > > > > > > minutes so if you multiply 3 degree and 20 minutes to > 108 > > it > > > > > comes > > > > > > > > out to be 360 degress i.e. one cycle (Circle). This > cycle > > > > > > > represetns > > > > > > > > whole brahmand because all the rashis, planets and > > nakshatra > > > > > are > > > > > > > > between these 360 degree in 2 dimensional horoscope. So > > > > > chanting a > > > > > > > > Mantra completes one cycle of this brahmand. Further > One > > who > > > > > has > > > > > > > > visited Brahamand at least one time i.e. he is > > brahmagyani he > > > > > is > > > > > > > > entitiled to place 108 Shri before his name. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sushil dikshit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > <vedic- astrology% 40. com>, babu mon > > > > > <muthappan111@ > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It may be a silly matter for all of you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I want to know what is the reason that some remedies > > > > > recomended > > > > > > > > for 108 times. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I dont know any thing about astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope you may pleased to provide a reply > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Babu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > > > > > > > Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers > from > > > > > someone > > > > > > > > who knows. > > > > > > > > > Answers - Check it out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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