Guest guest Posted August 5, 2007 Report Share Posted August 5, 2007 Dear Group, It looks that a fake id of MohanRaam is created to counter to other Senior Astrologers of the group, Now, it is clear, there is no Mohanraam existing. Mohanraam says he posted all mails from Pandit Dakschhinamurty's computer, He has not claimed that he posted all mails from my or ur's computer. So a strong doubt is, Either, it is PanditJi himself or his people, whosoever it is, it's ridiculous and disgusting. MohanRaam can enter into PanditJi's computer and can type in a mail and more, he can send it to group. But he cant enter into my mailbox to see who are the group members sending mails to me , He claims that he was not a Major that i assumed, but what he was, he has not written ? Leave it, Group u have seen how these people who swears of veda culture or vedic values are in real life, I m so sad today, they will talk about seers like Kanchi Sankaracharya, but what they are in real ? Panditji has good knowledge of astrology, Why he needs a sort of Mohanraam .... Why ? What u will say, ambition, greed or insecurity ? Or a wish to become an icon in the field of Astrology... Have u noticed, This MOHANRAAM equates him to PT. SANJAY RATH- 44 yr, PV NARSIMHA RAO - 37 yr, who are half of his claimed age..., Who is doing this sort of claims, who is gettting benefitted. a 86 year old man ? See, this was a ghost in the group, which happen to fight with a Software Engineer and trapped in the broad day light, before all 7719 members of the group. Shame !!! And i m sorry, i was made instrumental to expose, had he not said i m suffering from such and such psychological disorderness, I w'd not have tried to expose the two faces of one man. regards, Lalit. vedic astrology , " mohanraaam " <mohanraaam wrote: > > Dear Lalith: > > You need not trouble yourself with tracing the IP address.....You > will get the IP address of Panditji only if you trace it. I have > been sending it from his computer only. > > Yesterday night, we had a long session of exchange; at that time > Panditji was asleep, and his younger brother and mother were also > there in the house at that time. His computer was inside his locked > office room. > > You who speak of miracles must know that there are people capable of > doing those things. I have consumed large amounts of food from his > house which no normal human being can do.......His whole family knows > of all these. They are all perplexed by that. > > Guruji has himself traced the IP id once to his own computer when he > got it traced through a software engineer client of his...So, it is > nothing new. > > By the way, I was not a major in the Indian army during the > Bangladesh war....how did you assume I was only a " major " ? What > makes you think that I did not serve earlier wars? What makes you > think that I was not a Brigadier at that time? > > Young man you have a long way to go in occult to understand that many > miracles can happen in normal life.......I have not threatened you > with death or anything......I had infact openly written that I have > not even cursed you. > > Guruji has no connection with me; he is not asking me to do what I am > doing. I have been typing from his computer - sometimes even as he > is chatting with clients, I have sent mails from his email id. You > can check the time stamps to confirm this. One software engineer who > traced this (on the request of Panditji himself) found that 5 > different mails had been sent at the same time that too in detail and > in reply to mails received at the same time (it was not a stored mail > being sent; but a live mail sent as a reply to 5 different persons). > > So, tracing IP address will prove nothing. You may erraneously > assume that Panditji or someone in his family might be doing that (he > has parallel connection and his brother uses the other connection > from his room; so you might assume that if it is not Panditji, > someone close to him is doing that......But even that is not true. > His family is as perplexed by some of my activities as you are all!) > > If Panditji and I are the same, how come he receives my mails? Why > does he write to my email id? Is it humanly possible to maintain > such elaborate set up, and what purpose it will serve? > > Your doubt is not baseless, but a simple logical thinking will tell > you that it is not possible for a man of his schedule to indulge in > empty antics like that! > > If the group can believe this, let them believe. I have said THE > TRUTH. > > Mohanraaam. > > vedic astrology , " litsol " <mishra.lalit@> > wrote: > > > > I will put my observations : > > > > Pt. Dakschhinamurty has good knowledge of Astrology and has good > > collection of classics. his has good writing skills, soft and > > convincing. > > > > He owns a Master degree in Psychology..... (mind it) > > > > And this MohanRaam. > > > > Observe his way of writing, same sort of composition in english as > > Pt. Dakschhina has. > > > > U see, this MohanRaam repeatedly uses some medical terms of mental > > disorderness, talks about Psychology and Psychiatrists, discusses > > symptoms and suggests remedies ...... > > > > Now, watch him closely..., what he claims, astutely !! > > > > > > He spreads teror, a scaremonger , He owns destructive occult power, > > and if u speak a bit about Pt. Dakschhinamurty, He will curse u, > will > > kill u.. and bla bla... > > > > Pt. Dakschhinamurthy has been selected in defence for the position > > of " Commander " or something like this .... > > > > Mohanraam gives his introduction like he was in army, participated > in > > bangladesh war... > > > > his age is 86+. > > > > now calculate, he was an officer in army, well, his designation is > > not known, assuming he was a Major in army, the average age for a > > major in army is 35-37. > > > > bangladesh war happened in 1971, if we add 36+36 = 72, He can't be > > 86, may be he was not a major/col. also. > > > > Now, come to, His typing... > > > > Looks, He writes faster than a paid typist, with no mistakes, > > beleive, he is 86... and his fingers are so nice. > > > > He has only one pupose, that is to spread terror of his > > occultpower.., How, By creating a Psychological Game to curb > other's > > opinions, amd particularly if there is any thing related with Pt. > > Dakschhinamurty. > > > > I have not traced his IP address, wherefrom he posts his mails, > But, > > I m prone to think, Some Nexus, Some Link between two mail Ids. > > > > I leave it to the group to observe his behavior. > > > > regards, > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , " mohanraaam " <mohanraaam@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Group: > > > > > > Lalith has made a serious allegation that " there is a nexus > between > > > me and Pandit Dakshinamoorthi " ....There have been certain other > > > persons also who have alluded to that in the past....I want to > > > clarify on that..... > > > > > > I accept that definitely I am an admirer of Pandit > > Dakshinamoorthiji > > > because as an elderly yogi who has seen life, very rarely have I > > come > > > across a person of such a calibre and definitely not in this > > present > > > generation. So, I do write glowingly about him, and I do get > > tensed > > > when someone attacks him, and retort with mails. > > > > > > But, there is no unholy nexus between us. I am not a " paid " > > agent. > > > I write only what I have felt about him. I have no mal > intentions > > in > > > that. I do not think Panditji needs a person like me to sing his > > > praise; as someone in this group wrote earlier " Knowledge needs > no > > > introduction " , and Panditji's knowledge would have been obvious > to > > > everyone in the group. > > > > > > I am supporting Panditji only because as you all might be aware, > he > > > was not contributing to the group regularly for sometime; when > > asked, > > > he said that there were unnecessary controversies and he felt it > is > > > beneath a scholar to indulge in unsavoury exchanges, at the same > > > time, as a practising professional he cannot afford to keep quite > > if > > > someone attacks his professionalism which might spoil his > > > professional image. So, I brought him back with the promise that > I > > > will be his mouthpiece and spokesperson to defend him if > unsavoury > > > controversies arise. Even initially, it was on my invitation > that > > > Guruji joined this group in the first instance. I did this only > > for > > > the benefit of the learner of the group. Guruji is a very private > > > person who tends to hide his Glow in a bushel. I wanted his > > > intelligence and wisdom to benefit many and that is why I > > introduced > > > him to the group; and I support him and write mails only so that > he > > > does not quit the group due to unsavoury incidents. Old members > > will > > > remember that I was once even banned from the group. > > > > > > Other than this, there is no other unholy or mal intentions in my > > > supporting Guruji. Definitely, this is not at his request. He > is > > > not one to make such requests. He will be patient to his limits; > > and > > > if his limit exceeds, he will just walk away from the group which > > > will be the loss to the group. That is why, in an attempt to > > retain > > > his services here, I do write supporting him. > > > > > > In exchanges with Lalith, Guruji is not involved at all. In > fact, > > he > > > requested me not to fight with Lalith and asked me to ignore > him. > > > But, the challenging tone of Lalith only impels me to write again > > and > > > again. But, Guruji's name is unnecessarily drawn into this. > > > > > > THE TRUTH IS THAT I HAVE SEEN GURUJI; BUT GURUJI HAS NOT SEEN ME > > EVEN > > > ONCE IN HIS LIFE. > > > > > > Blessings, > > > Mohanraaam > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2007 Report Share Posted August 5, 2007 Dear Shri. Lalith: I can only say one thing..... " I am not Mohanraaamji " . I can also say with surety that " none of my family members have been doing this. " It is upto the group to believe it or suspect it. As regards Mr. Lalith....I do not consider you even worth as a human being at all....and I do not care what people like you think of me. Having got benefit out of my consultation, you spoilt my peace of mind by constantly harassing me over personal email, pressurized me for my personal details without decency, and now you have cast a serious aspersion on my dignity and honour. If the group strongly feels that I have had an unholy nexus, I will gladly quit the group. I WANT AN ANSWER FROM THIS GROUP. I will not remain in a group where I have been maligned and no body is willing to support me. Your silence means that you believe that I could have stooped to a level that Lalith alleges that I have done! I cannot survive in a place where I am being suspected of mal intentions or worse falsehood. I have lived my life on truth and heaven knows what heavy prices I have always paid for that! And here, someone who has just joined a group for the past 1 or 2 months alleges something serious, he claims miracles but casts aspersions on others who have really experienced miracles. As regards comparion between me or Pt. Sanjay Rath or Shri. Narasimha Rao, I never compare myself with others. I feel we all have our own turfs, and we never have had any misunderstandings or comparisons between ourselves. I do not why you want to drag everyone into a controversy. I do not care to be soft any more. This is a serious charge he has levelled against me, and I have nothing to prove against this matter. It is true that I know that mohanraaamji has been sending mails from my computer. I myself traced the matter with the help of a software engineer inthis group who helped me out in that matter; when he was doing that, one mail from Mohanraaamji was received from his own IP address. Mind it, that person was in far away Trivandrum , and I am in Chennai. How do you explain this? I have evidence to prove that people have received from Mohanraaamji when I was infact speaking with others. There are some group members here who know that. I want them to speak out to exonerate me;otherwise, this charge will stick on me as a disgrace. He has cast an aspersion on my vedic heritage and says my life itself has been false. If I wanted money, I could have continued in the MNC where I was employed after my short stint in the coast Guard. I did not do so. If I am commercial, I should be advertising my address, and Phone no. to everyone to bait people. No businessman will hide himself as I have been doing all along. All these have been ignored, and dangerous allegations have been levelled. Ghosts, spirits, miracles, etc. cannot be proved as we prove other matters. That is why I avoided saying anything on that. In fact,some of the discussions here can be treated as contrary to constitutional provisions against superstition. So, I naturally had to exercise restraint without disclosing certain matters. EITHER LALITH SHOULD STAY IN THIS GROUP OR I WILL STAY IN THIS GROUP. I am saying this because I am sure, this fellow will keep baiting me and that will spoil my peace of mind. I did not come into this group for getting smeared with mud and dishonour. Either you ban him, or I quit the group. I have never claimed ability to perform miracles; in fact, I have often times dissuaded people from approaching me with such beliefs. He kept on fighting inspite of frequent requests to stop posting inflammatory mails. So, it is his mistake. Mistake or not, let the group decide whether it wants me or Lalith. I am taking it personally. Let him do what he feels he must do about this matter. As regards me, i want him out of this group or I will be out of this group. A Guru should command respect; if that respect is lost, there is no point in a Guru continuing his work at all! I continue to swear by vedic protocols, vedic discipline, and vedic ethics. I have done nothing to feel ashamed about. Let anybody think what they will! Blessed be. Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. vedic astrology , " litsol " <mishra.lalit wrote: > > Dear Group, > > It looks that a fake id of MohanRaam is created to counter to other > Senior Astrologers of the group, Now, it is clear, there is no > Mohanraam existing. Mohanraam says he posted all mails from Pandit > Dakschhinamurty's computer, He has not claimed that he posted all > mails from my or ur's computer. > > So a strong doubt is, Either, it is PanditJi himself or his people, > whosoever it is, it's ridiculous and disgusting. MohanRaam can enter > into PanditJi's computer and can type in a mail and more, he can send > it to group. > > But he cant enter into my mailbox to see who are the group members > sending mails to me , He claims that he was not a Major that i > assumed, but what he was, he has not written ? > > Leave it, Group u have seen how these people who swears of veda > culture or vedic values are in real life, I m so sad today, they will > talk about seers like Kanchi Sankaracharya, but what they are in > real ? > > Panditji has good knowledge of astrology, Why he needs a sort of > Mohanraam .... Why ? > > What u will say, ambition, greed or insecurity ? Or a wish to become > an icon in the field of Astrology... > > Have u noticed, This MOHANRAAM equates him to PT. SANJAY RATH- 44 yr, > PV NARSIMHA RAO - 37 yr, who are half of his claimed age..., Who is > doing this sort of claims, who is gettting benefitted. a 86 year old > man ? > > See, this was a ghost in the group, which happen to fight with a > Software Engineer and trapped in the broad day light, before all 7719 > members of the group. > > Shame !!! > > And i m sorry, i was made instrumental to expose, had he not said i m > suffering from such and such psychological disorderness, I w'd not > have tried to expose the two faces of one man. > > regards, > Lalit. > vedic astrology , " mohanraaam " <mohanraaam@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Lalith: > > > > You need not trouble yourself with tracing the IP address.....You > > will get the IP address of Panditji only if you trace it. I have > > been sending it from his computer only. > > > > Yesterday night, we had a long session of exchange; at that time > > Panditji was asleep, and his younger brother and mother were also > > there in the house at that time. His computer was inside his > locked > > office room. > > > > You who speak of miracles must know that there are people capable > of > > doing those things. I have consumed large amounts of food from his > > house which no normal human being can do.......His whole family > knows > > of all these. They are all perplexed by that. > > > > Guruji has himself traced the IP id once to his own computer when > he > > got it traced through a software engineer client of his...So, it is > > nothing new. > > > > By the way, I was not a major in the Indian army during the > > Bangladesh war....how did you assume I was only a " major " ? What > > makes you think that I did not serve earlier wars? What makes you > > think that I was not a Brigadier at that time? > > > > Young man you have a long way to go in occult to understand that > many > > miracles can happen in normal life.......I have not threatened you > > with death or anything......I had infact openly written that I have > > not even cursed you. > > > > Guruji has no connection with me; he is not asking me to do what I > am > > doing. I have been typing from his computer - sometimes even as he > > is chatting with clients, I have sent mails from his email id. You > > can check the time stamps to confirm this. One software engineer > who > > traced this (on the request of Panditji himself) found that 5 > > different mails had been sent at the same time that too in detail > and > > in reply to mails received at the same time (it was not a stored > mail > > being sent; but a live mail sent as a reply to 5 different persons). > > > > So, tracing IP address will prove nothing. You may erraneously > > assume that Panditji or someone in his family might be doing that > (he > > has parallel connection and his brother uses the other connection > > from his room; so you might assume that if it is not Panditji, > > someone close to him is doing that......But even that is not true. > > His family is as perplexed by some of my activities as you are all!) > > > > If Panditji and I are the same, how come he receives my mails? Why > > does he write to my email id? Is it humanly possible to maintain > > such elaborate set up, and what purpose it will serve? > > > > Your doubt is not baseless, but a simple logical thinking will tell > > you that it is not possible for a man of his schedule to indulge in > > empty antics like that! > > > > If the group can believe this, let them believe. I have said THE > > TRUTH. > > > > Mohanraaam. > > > > vedic astrology , " litsol " <mishra.lalit@> > > wrote: > > > > > > I will put my observations : > > > > > > Pt. Dakschhinamurty has good knowledge of Astrology and has good > > > collection of classics. his has good writing skills, soft and > > > convincing. > > > > > > He owns a Master degree in Psychology..... (mind it) > > > > > > And this MohanRaam. > > > > > > Observe his way of writing, same sort of composition in english > as > > > Pt. Dakschhina has. > > > > > > U see, this MohanRaam repeatedly uses some medical terms of > mental > > > disorderness, talks about Psychology and Psychiatrists, discusses > > > symptoms and suggests remedies ...... > > > > > > Now, watch him closely..., what he claims, astutely !! > > > > > > > > > He spreads teror, a scaremonger , He owns destructive occult > power, > > > and if u speak a bit about Pt. Dakschhinamurty, He will curse u, > > will > > > kill u.. and bla bla... > > > > > > Pt. Dakschhinamurthy has been selected in defence for the > position > > > of " Commander " or something like this .... > > > > > > Mohanraam gives his introduction like he was in army, > participated > > in > > > bangladesh war... > > > > > > his age is 86+. > > > > > > now calculate, he was an officer in army, well, his designation > is > > > not known, assuming he was a Major in army, the average age for a > > > major in army is 35-37. > > > > > > bangladesh war happened in 1971, if we add 36+36 = 72, He can't > be > > > 86, may be he was not a major/col. also. > > > > > > Now, come to, His typing... > > > > > > Looks, He writes faster than a paid typist, with no mistakes, > > > beleive, he is 86... and his fingers are so nice. > > > > > > He has only one pupose, that is to spread terror of his > > > occultpower.., How, By creating a Psychological Game to curb > > other's > > > opinions, amd particularly if there is any thing related with Pt. > > > Dakschhinamurty. > > > > > > I have not traced his IP address, wherefrom he posts his mails, > > But, > > > I m prone to think, Some Nexus, Some Link between two mail Ids. > > > > > > I leave it to the group to observe his behavior. > > > > > > regards, > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , " mohanraaam " > <mohanraaam@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Group: > > > > > > > > Lalith has made a serious allegation that " there is a nexus > > between > > > > me and Pandit Dakshinamoorthi " ....There have been certain other > > > > persons also who have alluded to that in the past....I want to > > > > clarify on that..... > > > > > > > > I accept that definitely I am an admirer of Pandit > > > Dakshinamoorthiji > > > > because as an elderly yogi who has seen life, very rarely have > I > > > come > > > > across a person of such a calibre and definitely not in this > > > present > > > > generation. So, I do write glowingly about him, and I do get > > > tensed > > > > when someone attacks him, and retort with mails. > > > > > > > > But, there is no unholy nexus between us. I am not a " paid " > > > agent. > > > > I write only what I have felt about him. I have no mal > > intentions > > > in > > > > that. I do not think Panditji needs a person like me to sing > his > > > > praise; as someone in this group wrote earlier " Knowledge needs > > no > > > > introduction " , and Panditji's knowledge would have been obvious > > to > > > > everyone in the group. > > > > > > > > I am supporting Panditji only because as you all might be > aware, > > he > > > > was not contributing to the group regularly for sometime; when > > > asked, > > > > he said that there were unnecessary controversies and he felt > it > > is > > > > beneath a scholar to indulge in unsavoury exchanges, at the > same > > > > time, as a practising professional he cannot afford to keep > quite > > > if > > > > someone attacks his professionalism which might spoil his > > > > professional image. So, I brought him back with the promise > that > > I > > > > will be his mouthpiece and spokesperson to defend him if > > unsavoury > > > > controversies arise. Even initially, it was on my invitation > > that > > > > Guruji joined this group in the first instance. I did this > only > > > for > > > > the benefit of the learner of the group. Guruji is a very > private > > > > person who tends to hide his Glow in a bushel. I wanted his > > > > intelligence and wisdom to benefit many and that is why I > > > introduced > > > > him to the group; and I support him and write mails only so > that > > he > > > > does not quit the group due to unsavoury incidents. Old > members > > > will > > > > remember that I was once even banned from the group. > > > > > > > > Other than this, there is no other unholy or mal intentions in > my > > > > supporting Guruji. Definitely, this is not at his request. He > > is > > > > not one to make such requests. He will be patient to his > limits; > > > and > > > > if his limit exceeds, he will just walk away from the group > which > > > > will be the loss to the group. That is why, in an attempt to > > > retain > > > > his services here, I do write supporting him. > > > > > > > > In exchanges with Lalith, Guruji is not involved at all. In > > fact, > > > he > > > > requested me not to fight with Lalith and asked me to ignore > > him. > > > > But, the challenging tone of Lalith only impels me to write > again > > > and > > > > again. But, Guruji's name is unnecessarily drawn into this. > > > > > > > > THE TRUTH IS THAT I HAVE SEEN GURUJI; BUT GURUJI HAS NOT SEEN > ME > > > EVEN > > > > ONCE IN HIS LIFE. > > > > > > > > Blessings, > > > > Mohanraaam > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2007 Report Share Posted August 5, 2007 Dear Group: Mr. Lalith has written that the fake id mohanraaam was created to counter other senior astrologers......I pray....which senior astrologer of this group was countered by Mohanraaamji? If there is a senior astrologer here who feels that he has been countered by Mohanraaamji, kindly speak out for the cause of truth! I am really pained by this allegation. I repeat, either Mr. Lalith continues in this group or I will continue in this group. We both cannot continue here. I did not take up a vedic life and learn all wonderful things, leading a honest life to be insulted like this and being equated with scamsters and fakers! Blessed be. Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.vedic astrology , " litsol " <mishra.lalit wrote: > > Dear Group, > > It looks that a fake id of MohanRaam is created to counter to other > Senior Astrologers of the group, Now, it is clear, there is no > Mohanraam existing. Mohanraam says he posted all mails from Pandit > Dakschhinamurty's computer, He has not claimed that he posted all > mails from my or ur's computer. > > So a strong doubt is, Either, it is PanditJi himself or his people, > whosoever it is, it's ridiculous and disgusting. MohanRaam can enter > into PanditJi's computer and can type in a mail and more, he can send > it to group. > > But he cant enter into my mailbox to see who are the group members > sending mails to me , He claims that he was not a Major that i > assumed, but what he was, he has not written ? > > Leave it, Group u have seen how these people who swears of veda > culture or vedic values are in real life, I m so sad today, they will > talk about seers like Kanchi Sankaracharya, but what they are in > real ? > > Panditji has good knowledge of astrology, Why he needs a sort of > Mohanraam .... Why ? > > What u will say, ambition, greed or insecurity ? Or a wish to become > an icon in the field of Astrology... > > Have u noticed, This MOHANRAAM equates him to PT. SANJAY RATH- 44 yr, > PV NARSIMHA RAO - 37 yr, who are half of his claimed age..., Who is > doing this sort of claims, who is gettting benefitted. a 86 year old > man ? > > See, this was a ghost in the group, which happen to fight with a > Software Engineer and trapped in the broad day light, before all 7719 > members of the group. > > Shame !!! > > And i m sorry, i was made instrumental to expose, had he not said i m > suffering from such and such psychological disorderness, I w'd not > have tried to expose the two faces of one man. > > regards, > Lalit. > vedic astrology , " mohanraaam " <mohanraaam@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Lalith: > > > > You need not trouble yourself with tracing the IP address.....You > > will get the IP address of Panditji only if you trace it. I have > > been sending it from his computer only. > > > > Yesterday night, we had a long session of exchange; at that time > > Panditji was asleep, and his younger brother and mother were also > > there in the house at that time. His computer was inside his > locked > > office room. > > > > You who speak of miracles must know that there are people capable > of > > doing those things. I have consumed large amounts of food from his > > house which no normal human being can do.......His whole family > knows > > of all these. They are all perplexed by that. > > > > Guruji has himself traced the IP id once to his own computer when > he > > got it traced through a software engineer client of his...So, it is > > nothing new. > > > > By the way, I was not a major in the Indian army during the > > Bangladesh war....how did you assume I was only a " major " ? What > > makes you think that I did not serve earlier wars? What makes you > > think that I was not a Brigadier at that time? > > > > Young man you have a long way to go in occult to understand that > many > > miracles can happen in normal life.......I have not threatened you > > with death or anything......I had infact openly written that I have > > not even cursed you. > > > > Guruji has no connection with me; he is not asking me to do what I > am > > doing. I have been typing from his computer - sometimes even as he > > is chatting with clients, I have sent mails from his email id. You > > can check the time stamps to confirm this. One software engineer > who > > traced this (on the request of Panditji himself) found that 5 > > different mails had been sent at the same time that too in detail > and > > in reply to mails received at the same time (it was not a stored > mail > > being sent; but a live mail sent as a reply to 5 different persons). > > > > So, tracing IP address will prove nothing. You may erraneously > > assume that Panditji or someone in his family might be doing that > (he > > has parallel connection and his brother uses the other connection > > from his room; so you might assume that if it is not Panditji, > > someone close to him is doing that......But even that is not true. > > His family is as perplexed by some of my activities as you are all!) > > > > If Panditji and I are the same, how come he receives my mails? Why > > does he write to my email id? Is it humanly possible to maintain > > such elaborate set up, and what purpose it will serve? > > > > Your doubt is not baseless, but a simple logical thinking will tell > > you that it is not possible for a man of his schedule to indulge in > > empty antics like that! > > > > If the group can believe this, let them believe. I have said THE > > TRUTH. > > > > Mohanraaam. > > > > vedic astrology , " litsol " <mishra.lalit@> > > wrote: > > > > > > I will put my observations : > > > > > > Pt. Dakschhinamurty has good knowledge of Astrology and has good > > > collection of classics. his has good writing skills, soft and > > > convincing. > > > > > > He owns a Master degree in Psychology..... (mind it) > > > > > > And this MohanRaam. > > > > > > Observe his way of writing, same sort of composition in english > as > > > Pt. Dakschhina has. > > > > > > U see, this MohanRaam repeatedly uses some medical terms of > mental > > > disorderness, talks about Psychology and Psychiatrists, discusses > > > symptoms and suggests remedies ...... > > > > > > Now, watch him closely..., what he claims, astutely !! > > > > > > > > > He spreads teror, a scaremonger , He owns destructive occult > power, > > > and if u speak a bit about Pt. Dakschhinamurty, He will curse u, > > will > > > kill u.. and bla bla... > > > > > > Pt. Dakschhinamurthy has been selected in defence for the > position > > > of " Commander " or something like this .... > > > > > > Mohanraam gives his introduction like he was in army, > participated > > in > > > bangladesh war... > > > > > > his age is 86+. > > > > > > now calculate, he was an officer in army, well, his designation > is > > > not known, assuming he was a Major in army, the average age for a > > > major in army is 35-37. > > > > > > bangladesh war happened in 1971, if we add 36+36 = 72, He can't > be > > > 86, may be he was not a major/col. also. > > > > > > Now, come to, His typing... > > > > > > Looks, He writes faster than a paid typist, with no mistakes, > > > beleive, he is 86... and his fingers are so nice. > > > > > > He has only one pupose, that is to spread terror of his > > > occultpower.., How, By creating a Psychological Game to curb > > other's > > > opinions, amd particularly if there is any thing related with Pt. > > > Dakschhinamurty. > > > > > > I have not traced his IP address, wherefrom he posts his mails, > > But, > > > I m prone to think, Some Nexus, Some Link between two mail Ids. > > > > > > I leave it to the group to observe his behavior. > > > > > > regards, > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , " mohanraaam " > <mohanraaam@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Group: > > > > > > > > Lalith has made a serious allegation that " there is a nexus > > between > > > > me and Pandit Dakshinamoorthi " ....There have been certain other > > > > persons also who have alluded to that in the past....I want to > > > > clarify on that..... > > > > > > > > I accept that definitely I am an admirer of Pandit > > > Dakshinamoorthiji > > > > because as an elderly yogi who has seen life, very rarely have > I > > > come > > > > across a person of such a calibre and definitely not in this > > > present > > > > generation. So, I do write glowingly about him, and I do get > > > tensed > > > > when someone attacks him, and retort with mails. > > > > > > > > But, there is no unholy nexus between us. I am not a " paid " > > > agent. > > > > I write only what I have felt about him. I have no mal > > intentions > > > in > > > > that. I do not think Panditji needs a person like me to sing > his > > > > praise; as someone in this group wrote earlier " Knowledge needs > > no > > > > introduction " , and Panditji's knowledge would have been obvious > > to > > > > everyone in the group. > > > > > > > > I am supporting Panditji only because as you all might be > aware, > > he > > > > was not contributing to the group regularly for sometime; when > > > asked, > > > > he said that there were unnecessary controversies and he felt > it > > is > > > > beneath a scholar to indulge in unsavoury exchanges, at the > same > > > > time, as a practising professional he cannot afford to keep > quite > > > if > > > > someone attacks his professionalism which might spoil his > > > > professional image. So, I brought him back with the promise > that > > I > > > > will be his mouthpiece and spokesperson to defend him if > > unsavoury > > > > controversies arise. Even initially, it was on my invitation > > that > > > > Guruji joined this group in the first instance. I did this > only > > > for > > > > the benefit of the learner of the group. Guruji is a very > private > > > > person who tends to hide his Glow in a bushel. I wanted his > > > > intelligence and wisdom to benefit many and that is why I > > > introduced > > > > him to the group; and I support him and write mails only so > that > > he > > > > does not quit the group due to unsavoury incidents. Old > members > > > will > > > > remember that I was once even banned from the group. > > > > > > > > Other than this, there is no other unholy or mal intentions in > my > > > > supporting Guruji. Definitely, this is not at his request. He > > is > > > > not one to make such requests. He will be patient to his > limits; > > > and > > > > if his limit exceeds, he will just walk away from the group > which > > > > will be the loss to the group. That is why, in an attempt to > > > retain > > > > his services here, I do write supporting him. > > > > > > > > In exchanges with Lalith, Guruji is not involved at all. In > > fact, > > > he > > > > requested me not to fight with Lalith and asked me to ignore > > him. > > > > But, the challenging tone of Lalith only impels me to write > again > > > and > > > > again. But, Guruji's name is unnecessarily drawn into this. > > > > > > > > THE TRUTH IS THAT I HAVE SEEN GURUJI; BUT GURUJI HAS NOT SEEN > ME > > > EVEN > > > > ONCE IN HIS LIFE. > > > > > > > > Blessings, > > > > Mohanraaam > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2007 Report Share Posted August 5, 2007 Dear Pt.Dakshinamoorthiji, KINDLY DO NOT QUIT FROM THE GROUP SIR. Regards Kamal dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer vedic astrology Sunday, August 5, 2007 8:42:43 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Exposed Relationship btwn MohanRaam and Pt. Dakshinamoorthiji Dear Shri. Lalith: I can only say one thing..... " I am not Mohanraaamji " . I can also say with surety that " none of my family members have been doing this. " It is upto the group to believe it or suspect it. As regards Mr. Lalith....I do not consider you even worth as a human being at all....and I do not care what people like you think of me. Having got benefit out of my consultation, you spoilt my peace of mind by constantly harassing me over personal email, pressurized me for my personal details without decency, and now you have cast a serious aspersion on my dignity and honour. If the group strongly feels that I have had an unholy nexus, I will gladly quit the group. I WANT AN ANSWER FROM THIS GROUP. I will not remain in a group where I have been maligned and no body is willing to support me. Your silence means that you believe that I could have stooped to a level that Lalith alleges that I have done! I cannot survive in a place where I am being suspected of mal intentions or worse falsehood. I have lived my life on truth and heaven knows what heavy prices I have always paid for that! And here, someone who has just joined a group for the past 1 or 2 months alleges something serious, he claims miracles but casts aspersions on others who have really experienced miracles. As regards comparion between me or Pt. Sanjay Rath or Shri. Narasimha Rao, I never compare myself with others. I feel we all have our own turfs, and we never have had any misunderstandings or comparisons between ourselves. I do not why you want to drag everyone into a controversy. I do not care to be soft any more. This is a serious charge he has levelled against me, and I have nothing to prove against this matter. It is true that I know that mohanraaamji has been sending mails from my computer. I myself traced the matter with the help of a software engineer inthis group who helped me out in that matter; when he was doing that, one mail from Mohanraaamji was received from his own IP address. Mind it, that person was in far away Trivandrum , and I am in Chennai. How do you explain this? I have evidence to prove that people have received from Mohanraaamji when I was infact speaking with others. There are some group members here who know that. I want them to speak out to exonerate me;otherwise, this charge will stick on me as a disgrace. He has cast an aspersion on my vedic heritage and says my life itself has been false. If I wanted money, I could have continued in the MNC where I was employed after my short stint in the coast Guard. I did not do so. If I am commercial, I should be advertising my address, and Phone no. to everyone to bait people. No businessman will hide himself as I have been doing all along. All these have been ignored, and dangerous allegations have been levelled. Ghosts, spirits, miracles, etc. cannot be proved as we prove other matters. That is why I avoided saying anything on that. In fact,some of the discussions here can be treated as contrary to constitutional provisions against superstition. So, I naturally had to exercise restraint without disclosing certain matters. EITHER LALITH SHOULD STAY IN THIS GROUP OR I WILL STAY IN THIS GROUP. I am saying this because I am sure, this fellow will keep baiting me and that will spoil my peace of mind. I did not come into this group for getting smeared with mud and dishonour. Either you ban him, or I quit the group. I have never claimed ability to perform miracles; in fact, I have often times dissuaded people from approaching me with such beliefs. He kept on fighting inspite of frequent requests to stop posting inflammatory mails. So, it is his mistake. Mistake or not, let the group decide whether it wants me or Lalith. I am taking it personally. Let him do what he feels he must do about this matter. As regards me, i want him out of this group or I will be out of this group. A Guru should command respect; if that respect is lost, there is no point in a Guru continuing his work at all! I continue to swear by vedic protocols, vedic discipline, and vedic ethics. I have done nothing to feel ashamed about. Let anybody think what they will! Blessed be. Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. vedic astrology, " litsol " <mishra.lalit@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Group, > > It looks that a fake id of MohanRaam is created to counter to other > Senior Astrologers of the group, Now, it is clear, there is no > Mohanraam existing. Mohanraam says he posted all mails from Pandit > Dakschhinamurty' s computer, He has not claimed that he posted all > mails from my or ur's computer. > > So a strong doubt is, Either, it is PanditJi himself or his people, > whosoever it is, it's ridiculous and disgusting. MohanRaam can enter > into PanditJi's computer and can type in a mail and more, he can send > it to group. > > But he cant enter into my mailbox to see who are the group members > sending mails to me , He claims that he was not a Major that i > assumed, but what he was, he has not written ? > > Leave it, Group u have seen how these people who swears of veda > culture or vedic values are in real life, I m so sad today, they will > talk about seers like Kanchi Sankaracharya, but what they are in > real ? > > Panditji has good knowledge of astrology, Why he needs a sort of > Mohanraam .... Why ? > > What u will say, ambition, greed or insecurity ? Or a wish to become > an icon in the field of Astrology... > > Have u noticed, This MOHANRAAM equates him to PT. SANJAY RATH- 44 yr, > PV NARSIMHA RAO - 37 yr, who are half of his claimed age..., Who is > doing this sort of claims, who is gettting benefitted. a 86 year old > man ? > > See, this was a ghost in the group, which happen to fight with a > Software Engineer and trapped in the broad day light, before all 7719 > members of the group. > > Shame !!! > > And i m sorry, i was made instrumental to expose, had he not said i m > suffering from such and such psychological disorderness, I w'd not > have tried to expose the two faces of one man. > > regards, > Lalit. > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, " mohanraaam " <mohanraaam@ > > wrote: > > > > Dear Lalith: > > > > You need not trouble yourself with tracing the IP address..... You > > will get the IP address of Panditji only if you trace it. I have > > been sending it from his computer only. > > > > Yesterday night, we had a long session of exchange; at that time > > Panditji was asleep, and his younger brother and mother were also > > there in the house at that time. His computer was inside his > locked > > office room. > > > > You who speak of miracles must know that there are people capable > of > > doing those things. I have consumed large amounts of food from his > > house which no normal human being can do.......His whole family > knows > > of all these. They are all perplexed by that. > > > > Guruji has himself traced the IP id once to his own computer when > he > > got it traced through a software engineer client of his...So, it is > > nothing new. > > > > By the way, I was not a major in the Indian army during the > > Bangladesh war....how did you assume I was only a " major " ? What > > makes you think that I did not serve earlier wars? What makes you > > think that I was not a Brigadier at that time? > > > > Young man you have a long way to go in occult to understand that > many > > miracles can happen in normal life.......I have not threatened you > > with death or anything.... ..I had infact openly written that I have > > not even cursed you. > > > > Guruji has no connection with me; he is not asking me to do what I > am > > doing. I have been typing from his computer - sometimes even as he > > is chatting with clients, I have sent mails from his email id. You > > can check the time stamps to confirm this. One software engineer > who > > traced this (on the request of Panditji himself) found that 5 > > different mails had been sent at the same time that too in detail > and > > in reply to mails received at the same time (it was not a stored > mail > > being sent; but a live mail sent as a reply to 5 different persons). > > > > So, tracing IP address will prove nothing. You may erraneously > > assume that Panditji or someone in his family might be doing that > (he > > has parallel connection and his brother uses the other connection > > from his room; so you might assume that if it is not Panditji, > > someone close to him is doing that......But even that is not true. > > His family is as perplexed by some of my activities as you are all!) > > > > If Panditji and I are the same, how come he receives my mails? Why > > does he write to my email id? Is it humanly possible to maintain > > such elaborate set up, and what purpose it will serve? > > > > Your doubt is not baseless, but a simple logical thinking will tell > > you that it is not possible for a man of his schedule to indulge in > > empty antics like that! > > > > If the group can believe this, let them believe. I have said THE > > TRUTH. > > > > Mohanraaam. > > > > vedic astrology, " litsol " <mishra.lalit@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > I will put my observations : > > > > > > Pt. Dakschhinamurty has good knowledge of Astrology and has good > > > collection of classics. his has good writing skills, soft and > > > convincing. > > > > > > He owns a Master degree in Psychology.. ... (mind it) > > > > > > And this MohanRaam. > > > > > > Observe his way of writing, same sort of composition in english > as > > > Pt. Dakschhina has. > > > > > > U see, this MohanRaam repeatedly uses some medical terms of > mental > > > disorderness, talks about Psychology and Psychiatrists, discusses > > > symptoms and suggests remedies ...... > > > > > > Now, watch him closely..., what he claims, astutely !! > > > > > > > > > He spreads teror, a scaremonger , He owns destructive occult > power, > > > and if u speak a bit about Pt. Dakschhinamurty, He will curse u, > > will > > > kill u.. and bla bla... > > > > > > Pt. Dakschhinamurthy has been selected in defence for the > position > > > of " Commander " or something like this .... > > > > > > Mohanraam gives his introduction like he was in army, > participated > > in > > > bangladesh war... > > > > > > his age is 86+. > > > > > > now calculate, he was an officer in army, well, his designation > is > > > not known, assuming he was a Major in army, the average age for a > > > major in army is 35-37. > > > > > > bangladesh war happened in 1971, if we add 36+36 = 72, He can't > be > > > 86, may be he was not a major/col. also. > > > > > > Now, come to, His typing... > > > > > > Looks, He writes faster than a paid typist, with no mistakes, > > > beleive, he is 86... and his fingers are so nice. > > > > > > He has only one pupose, that is to spread terror of his > > > occultpower. ., How, By creating a Psychological Game to curb > > other's > > > opinions, amd particularly if there is any thing related with Pt. > > > Dakschhinamurty. > > > > > > I have not traced his IP address, wherefrom he posts his mails, > > But, > > > I m prone to think, Some Nexus, Some Link between two mail Ids. > > > > > > I leave it to the group to observe his behavior. > > > > > > regards, > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, " mohanraaam " > <mohanraaam@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Group: > > > > > > > > Lalith has made a serious allegation that " there is a nexus > > between > > > > me and Pandit Dakshinamoorthi " ....There have been certain other > > > > persons also who have alluded to that in the past....I want to > > > > clarify on that..... > > > > > > > > I accept that definitely I am an admirer of Pandit > > > Dakshinamoorthiji > > > > because as an elderly yogi who has seen life, very rarely have > I > > > come > > > > across a person of such a calibre and definitely not in this > > > present > > > > generation. So, I do write glowingly about him, and I do get > > > tensed > > > > when someone attacks him, and retort with mails. > > > > > > > > But, there is no unholy nexus between us. I am not a " paid " > > > agent. > > > > I write only what I have felt about him. I have no mal > > intentions > > > in > > > > that. I do not think Panditji needs a person like me to sing > his > > > > praise; as someone in this group wrote earlier " Knowledge needs > > no > > > > introduction " , and Panditji's knowledge would have been obvious > > to > > > > everyone in the group. > > > > > > > > I am supporting Panditji only because as you all might be > aware, > > he > > > > was not contributing to the group regularly for sometime; when > > > asked, > > > > he said that there were unnecessary controversies and he felt > it > > is > > > > beneath a scholar to indulge in unsavoury exchanges, at the > same > > > > time, as a practising professional he cannot afford to keep > quite > > > if > > > > someone attacks his professionalism which might spoil his > > > > professional image. So, I brought him back with the promise > that > > I > > > > will be his mouthpiece and spokesperson to defend him if > > unsavoury > > > > controversies arise. Even initially, it was on my invitation > > that > > > > Guruji joined this group in the first instance. I did this > only > > > for > > > > the benefit of the learner of the group. Guruji is a very > private > > > > person who tends to hide his Glow in a bushel. I wanted his > > > > intelligence and wisdom to benefit many and that is why I > > > introduced > > > > him to the group; and I support him and write mails only so > that > > he > > > > does not quit the group due to unsavoury incidents. Old > members > > > will > > > > remember that I was once even banned from the group. > > > > > > > > Other than this, there is no other unholy or mal intentions in > my > > > > supporting Guruji. Definitely, this is not at his request. He > > is > > > > not one to make such requests. He will be patient to his > limits; > > > and > > > > if his limit exceeds, he will just walk away from the group > which > > > > will be the loss to the group. That is why, in an attempt to > > > retain > > > > his services here, I do write supporting him. > > > > > > > > In exchanges with Lalith, Guruji is not involved at all. In > > fact, > > > he > > > > requested me not to fight with Lalith and asked me to ignore > > him. > > > > But, the challenging tone of Lalith only impels me to write > again > > > and > > > > again. But, Guruji's name is unnecessarily drawn into this. > > > > > > > > THE TRUTH IS THAT I HAVE SEEN GURUJI; BUT GURUJI HAS NOT SEEN > ME > > > EVEN > > > > ONCE IN HIS LIFE. > > > > > > > > Blessings, > > > > Mohanraaam > > > > > > > > > > <!-- #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;} #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height:1.22em;} #ygrp-text{ font-family:Georgia; } #ygrp-text p{ margin:0 0 1em 0;} #ygrp-tpmsgs{ font-family:Arial; clear:both;} #ygrp-vitnav{ padding-top:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;margin:0;} #ygrp-vitnav a{ padding:0 1px;} #ygrp-actbar{ clear:both;margin:25px 0;white-space:nowrap;color:#666;text-align:right;} #ygrp-actbar .left{ float:left;white-space:nowrap;} ..bld{font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-grft{ font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;padding:15px 0;} #ygrp-ft{ font-family:verdana;font-size:77%;border-top:1px solid #666; padding:5px 0; } #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ padding-bottom:10px;} #ygrp-vital{ background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:2px 0 8px 8px;} #ygrp-vital #vithd{ font-size:77%;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:bold;color:#333;text-transform:upp\ ercase;} #ygrp-vital ul{ padding:0;margin:2px 0;} #ygrp-vital ul li{ list-style-type:none;clear:both;border:1px solid #e0ecee; } #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ font-weight:bold;color:#ff7900;float:right;width:2em;text-align:right;padding-ri\ ght:.5em;} #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-vital a { text-decoration:none;} #ygrp-vital a:hover{ text-decoration:underline;} #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ color:#999;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ padding:6px 13px;background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ text-decoration:none;font-size:130%;} #ygrp-sponsor #nc { background-color:#eee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:0 8px;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ padding:8px 0;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#628c2a;font-size:100%;line-height:122%\ ;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ text-decoration:none;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ text-decoration:underline;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ margin:0;} o {font-size:0;} ..MsoNormal { margin:0 0 0 0;} #ygrp-text tt{ font-size:120%;} blockquote{margin:0 0 0 4px;} ..replbq {margin:4;} --> ______________________________\ ____ oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile./mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2007 Report Share Posted August 5, 2007 PanditJi, I have no problems with u any way, i know u have good knowledge of astrology and u r respected for that. but who is this mohanraam to call me mad, who is this mohanraam to insult other members, that's a mere a doubt and that is on his identity. If u r not connected with Mohanraam, I have no problems with you. I know to respect knowledge and knowledgables and these were ur's replies to the group i decided to contact u.... Pls. be here and help people with ur's astrological knowledge the way looked to have been doing. regards, Lalit. vedic astrology , " dakshinastrologer " <dakshinastrologer wrote: > > Dear Group: > > Mr. Lalith has written that the fake id mohanraaam was created to > counter other senior astrologers......I pray....which senior > astrologer of this group was countered by Mohanraaamji? > > If there is a senior astrologer here who feels that he has been > countered by Mohanraaamji, kindly speak out for the cause of truth! I > am really pained by this allegation. > > I repeat, either Mr. Lalith continues in this group or I will > continue in this group. We both cannot continue here. > > I did not take up a vedic life and learn all wonderful things, > leading a honest life to be insulted like this and being equated with > scamsters and fakers! > > Blessed be. > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.vedic astrology , > " litsol " <mishra.lalit@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Group, > > > > It looks that a fake id of MohanRaam is created to counter to other > > Senior Astrologers of the group, Now, it is clear, there is no > > Mohanraam existing. Mohanraam says he posted all mails from Pandit > > Dakschhinamurty's computer, He has not claimed that he posted all > > mails from my or ur's computer. > > > > So a strong doubt is, Either, it is PanditJi himself or his people, > > whosoever it is, it's ridiculous and disgusting. MohanRaam can > enter > > into PanditJi's computer and can type in a mail and more, he can > send > > it to group. > > > > But he cant enter into my mailbox to see who are the group members > > sending mails to me , He claims that he was not a Major that i > > assumed, but what he was, he has not written ? > > > > Leave it, Group u have seen how these people who swears of veda > > culture or vedic values are in real life, I m so sad today, they > will > > talk about seers like Kanchi Sankaracharya, but what they are in > > real ? > > > > Panditji has good knowledge of astrology, Why he needs a sort of > > Mohanraam .... Why ? > > > > What u will say, ambition, greed or insecurity ? Or a wish to > become > > an icon in the field of Astrology... > > > > Have u noticed, This MOHANRAAM equates him to PT. SANJAY RATH- 44 > yr, > > PV NARSIMHA RAO - 37 yr, who are half of his claimed age..., Who is > > doing this sort of claims, who is gettting benefitted. a 86 year > old > > man ? > > > > See, this was a ghost in the group, which happen to fight with a > > Software Engineer and trapped in the broad day light, before all > 7719 > > members of the group. > > > > Shame !!! > > > > And i m sorry, i was made instrumental to expose, had he not said i > m > > suffering from such and such psychological disorderness, I w'd not > > have tried to expose the two faces of one man. > > > > regards, > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , " mohanraaam " <mohanraaam@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Lalith: > > > > > > You need not trouble yourself with tracing the IP address.....You > > > will get the IP address of Panditji only if you trace it. I have > > > been sending it from his computer only. > > > > > > Yesterday night, we had a long session of exchange; at that time > > > Panditji was asleep, and his younger brother and mother were also > > > there in the house at that time. His computer was inside his > > locked > > > office room. > > > > > > You who speak of miracles must know that there are people capable > > of > > > doing those things. I have consumed large amounts of food from > his > > > house which no normal human being can do.......His whole family > > knows > > > of all these. They are all perplexed by that. > > > > > > Guruji has himself traced the IP id once to his own computer when > > he > > > got it traced through a software engineer client of his...So, it > is > > > nothing new. > > > > > > By the way, I was not a major in the Indian army during the > > > Bangladesh war....how did you assume I was only a " major " ? What > > > makes you think that I did not serve earlier wars? What makes you > > > think that I was not a Brigadier at that time? > > > > > > Young man you have a long way to go in occult to understand that > > many > > > miracles can happen in normal life.......I have not threatened > you > > > with death or anything......I had infact openly written that I > have > > > not even cursed you. > > > > > > Guruji has no connection with me; he is not asking me to do what > I > > am > > > doing. I have been typing from his computer - sometimes even as > he > > > is chatting with clients, I have sent mails from his email id. > You > > > can check the time stamps to confirm this. One software engineer > > who > > > traced this (on the request of Panditji himself) found that 5 > > > different mails had been sent at the same time that too in detail > > and > > > in reply to mails received at the same time (it was not a stored > > mail > > > being sent; but a live mail sent as a reply to 5 different > persons). > > > > > > So, tracing IP address will prove nothing. You may erraneously > > > assume that Panditji or someone in his family might be doing that > > (he > > > has parallel connection and his brother uses the other connection > > > from his room; so you might assume that if it is not Panditji, > > > someone close to him is doing that......But even that is not > true. > > > His family is as perplexed by some of my activities as you are > all!) > > > > > > If Panditji and I are the same, how come he receives my mails? > Why > > > does he write to my email id? Is it humanly possible to maintain > > > such elaborate set up, and what purpose it will serve? > > > > > > Your doubt is not baseless, but a simple logical thinking will > tell > > > you that it is not possible for a man of his schedule to indulge > in > > > empty antics like that! > > > > > > If the group can believe this, let them believe. I have said THE > > > TRUTH. > > > > > > Mohanraaam. > > > > > > vedic astrology , " litsol " <mishra.lalit@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I will put my observations : > > > > > > > > Pt. Dakschhinamurty has good knowledge of Astrology and has > good > > > > collection of classics. his has good writing skills, soft and > > > > convincing. > > > > > > > > He owns a Master degree in Psychology..... (mind it) > > > > > > > > And this MohanRaam. > > > > > > > > Observe his way of writing, same sort of composition in english > > as > > > > Pt. Dakschhina has. > > > > > > > > U see, this MohanRaam repeatedly uses some medical terms of > > mental > > > > disorderness, talks about Psychology and Psychiatrists, > discusses > > > > symptoms and suggests remedies ...... > > > > > > > > Now, watch him closely..., what he claims, astutely !! > > > > > > > > > > > > He spreads teror, a scaremonger , He owns destructive occult > > power, > > > > and if u speak a bit about Pt. Dakschhinamurty, He will curse > u, > > > will > > > > kill u.. and bla bla... > > > > > > > > Pt. Dakschhinamurthy has been selected in defence for the > > position > > > > of " Commander " or something like this .... > > > > > > > > Mohanraam gives his introduction like he was in army, > > participated > > > in > > > > bangladesh war... > > > > > > > > his age is 86+. > > > > > > > > now calculate, he was an officer in army, well, his designation > > is > > > > not known, assuming he was a Major in army, the average age for > a > > > > major in army is 35-37. > > > > > > > > bangladesh war happened in 1971, if we add 36+36 = 72, He can't > > be > > > > 86, may be he was not a major/col. also. > > > > > > > > Now, come to, His typing... > > > > > > > > Looks, He writes faster than a paid typist, with no mistakes, > > > > beleive, he is 86... and his fingers are so nice. > > > > > > > > He has only one pupose, that is to spread terror of his > > > > occultpower.., How, By creating a Psychological Game to curb > > > other's > > > > opinions, amd particularly if there is any thing related with > Pt. > > > > Dakschhinamurty. > > > > > > > > I have not traced his IP address, wherefrom he posts his mails, > > > But, > > > > I m prone to think, Some Nexus, Some Link between two mail Ids. > > > > > > > > I leave it to the group to observe his behavior. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , " mohanraaam " > > <mohanraaam@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group: > > > > > > > > > > Lalith has made a serious allegation that " there is a nexus > > > between > > > > > me and Pandit Dakshinamoorthi " ....There have been certain > other > > > > > persons also who have alluded to that in the past....I want > to > > > > > clarify on that..... > > > > > > > > > > I accept that definitely I am an admirer of Pandit > > > > Dakshinamoorthiji > > > > > because as an elderly yogi who has seen life, very rarely > have > > I > > > > come > > > > > across a person of such a calibre and definitely not in this > > > > present > > > > > generation. So, I do write glowingly about him, and I do get > > > > tensed > > > > > when someone attacks him, and retort with mails. > > > > > > > > > > But, there is no unholy nexus between us. I am not a " paid " > > > > agent. > > > > > I write only what I have felt about him. I have no mal > > > intentions > > > > in > > > > > that. I do not think Panditji needs a person like me to sing > > his > > > > > praise; as someone in this group wrote earlier " Knowledge > needs > > > no > > > > > introduction " , and Panditji's knowledge would have been > obvious > > > to > > > > > everyone in the group. > > > > > > > > > > I am supporting Panditji only because as you all might be > > aware, > > > he > > > > > was not contributing to the group regularly for sometime; > when > > > > asked, > > > > > he said that there were unnecessary controversies and he felt > > it > > > is > > > > > beneath a scholar to indulge in unsavoury exchanges, at the > > same > > > > > time, as a practising professional he cannot afford to keep > > quite > > > > if > > > > > someone attacks his professionalism which might spoil his > > > > > professional image. So, I brought him back with the promise > > that > > > I > > > > > will be his mouthpiece and spokesperson to defend him if > > > unsavoury > > > > > controversies arise. Even initially, it was on my invitation > > > that > > > > > Guruji joined this group in the first instance. I did this > > only > > > > for > > > > > the benefit of the learner of the group. Guruji is a very > > private > > > > > person who tends to hide his Glow in a bushel. I wanted his > > > > > intelligence and wisdom to benefit many and that is why I > > > > introduced > > > > > him to the group; and I support him and write mails only so > > that > > > he > > > > > does not quit the group due to unsavoury incidents. Old > > members > > > > will > > > > > remember that I was once even banned from the group. > > > > > > > > > > Other than this, there is no other unholy or mal intentions > in > > my > > > > > supporting Guruji. Definitely, this is not at his request. > He > > > is > > > > > not one to make such requests. He will be patient to his > > limits; > > > > and > > > > > if his limit exceeds, he will just walk away from the group > > which > > > > > will be the loss to the group. That is why, in an attempt to > > > > retain > > > > > his services here, I do write supporting him. > > > > > > > > > > In exchanges with Lalith, Guruji is not involved at all. In > > > fact, > > > > he > > > > > requested me not to fight with Lalith and asked me to ignore > > > him. > > > > > But, the challenging tone of Lalith only impels me to write > > again > > > > and > > > > > again. But, Guruji's name is unnecessarily drawn into this. > > > > > > > > > > THE TRUTH IS THAT I HAVE SEEN GURUJI; BUT GURUJI HAS NOT SEEN > > ME > > > > EVEN > > > > > ONCE IN HIS LIFE. > > > > > > > > > > Blessings, > > > > > Mohanraaam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2007 Report Share Posted August 5, 2007 Namaste, Mr.Lalit Mishra, Thank you very much; I am happy about your perseverance in excavating truth and shown the way to gullible glib takers. You have torn the masks of invisible Swine. Once this swine had insulted me “egoistic pig” [indirectly in message 73986 of 21stApril 2006], then I had left it to God, now at last the invisible had evaporated after addressing all the members of the forum as “spineless”. God bless you, litsol <mishra.lalit wrote: Dear Group, It looks that a fake id of MohanRaam is created to counter to other Senior Astrologers of the group, Now, it is clear, there is no Mohanraam existing. Mohanraam says he posted all mails from Pandit Dakschhinamurty's computer, He has not claimed that he posted all mails from my or ur's computer. So a strong doubt is, Either, it is PanditJi himself or his people, whosoever it is, it's ridiculous and disgusting. MohanRaam can enter into PanditJi's computer and can type in a mail and more, he can send it to group. But he cant enter into my mailbox to see who are the group members sending mails to me , He claims that he was not a Major that i assumed, but what he was, he has not written ? Leave it, Group u have seen how these people who swears of veda culture or vedic values are in real life, I m so sad today, they will talk about seers like Kanchi Sankaracharya, but what they are in real ? Panditji has good knowledge of astrology, Why he needs a sort of Mohanraam .... Why ? What u will say, ambition, greed or insecurity ? Or a wish to become an icon in the field of Astrology... Have u noticed, This MOHANRAAM equates him to PT. SANJAY RATH- 44 yr, PV NARSIMHA RAO - 37 yr, who are half of his claimed age..., Who is doing this sort of claims, who is gettting benefitted. a 86 year old man ? See, this was a ghost in the group, which happen to fight with a Software Engineer and trapped in the broad day light, before all 7719 members of the group. Shame !!! And i m sorry, i was made instrumental to expose, had he not said i m suffering from such and such psychological disorderness, I w'd not have tried to expose the two faces of one man. regards, Lalit. vedic astrology , " mohanraaam " <mohanraaam wrote: > > Dear Lalith: > > You need not trouble yourself with tracing the IP address.....You > will get the IP address of Panditji only if you trace it. I have > been sending it from his computer only. > > Yesterday night, we had a long session of exchange; at that time > Panditji was asleep, and his younger brother and mother were also > there in the house at that time. His computer was inside his locked > office room. > > You who speak of miracles must know that there are people capable of > doing those things. I have consumed large amounts of food from his > house which no normal human being can do.......His whole family knows > of all these. They are all perplexed by that. > > Guruji has himself traced the IP id once to his own computer when he > got it traced through a software engineer client of his...So, it is > nothing new. > > By the way, I was not a major in the Indian army during the > Bangladesh war....how did you assume I was only a " major " ? What > makes you think that I did not serve earlier wars? What makes you > think that I was not a Brigadier at that time? > > Young man you have a long way to go in occult to understand that many > miracles can happen in normal life.......I have not threatened you > with death or anything......I had infact openly written that I have > not even cursed you. > > Guruji has no connection with me; he is not asking me to do what I am > doing. I have been typing from his computer - sometimes even as he > is chatting with clients, I have sent mails from his email id. You > can check the time stamps to confirm this. One software engineer who > traced this (on the request of Panditji himself) found that 5 > different mails had been sent at the same time that too in detail and > in reply to mails received at the same time (it was not a stored mail > being sent; but a live mail sent as a reply to 5 different persons). > > So, tracing IP address will prove nothing. You may erraneously > assume that Panditji or someone in his family might be doing that (he > has parallel connection and his brother uses the other connection > from his room; so you might assume that if it is not Panditji, > someone close to him is doing that......But even that is not true. > His family is as perplexed by some of my activities as you are all!) > > If Panditji and I are the same, how come he receives my mails? Why > does he write to my email id? Is it humanly possible to maintain > such elaborate set up, and what purpose it will serve? > > Your doubt is not baseless, but a simple logical thinking will tell > you that it is not possible for a man of his schedule to indulge in > empty antics like that! > > If the group can believe this, let them believe. I have said THE > TRUTH. > > Mohanraaam. > > vedic astrology , " litsol " <mishra.lalit@> > wrote: > > > > I will put my observations : > > > > Pt. Dakschhinamurty has good knowledge of Astrology and has good > > collection of classics. his has good writing skills, soft and > > convincing. > > > > He owns a Master degree in Psychology..... (mind it) > > > > And this MohanRaam. > > > > Observe his way of writing, same sort of composition in english as > > Pt. Dakschhina has. > > > > U see, this MohanRaam repeatedly uses some medical terms of mental > > disorderness, talks about Psychology and Psychiatrists, discusses > > symptoms and suggests remedies ...... > > > > Now, watch him closely..., what he claims, astutely !! > > > > > > He spreads teror, a scaremonger , He owns destructive occult power, > > and if u speak a bit about Pt. Dakschhinamurty, He will curse u, > will > > kill u.. and bla bla... > > > > Pt. Dakschhinamurthy has been selected in defence for the position > > of " Commander " or something like this .... > > > > Mohanraam gives his introduction like he was in army, participated > in > > bangladesh war... > > > > his age is 86+. > > > > now calculate, he was an officer in army, well, his designation is > > not known, assuming he was a Major in army, the average age for a > > major in army is 35-37. > > > > bangladesh war happened in 1971, if we add 36+36 = 72, He can't be > > 86, may be he was not a major/col. also. > > > > Now, come to, His typing... > > > > Looks, He writes faster than a paid typist, with no mistakes, > > beleive, he is 86... and his fingers are so nice. > > > > He has only one pupose, that is to spread terror of his > > occultpower.., How, By creating a Psychological Game to curb > other's > > opinions, amd particularly if there is any thing related with Pt. > > Dakschhinamurty. > > > > I have not traced his IP address, wherefrom he posts his mails, > But, > > I m prone to think, Some Nexus, Some Link between two mail Ids. > > > > I leave it to the group to observe his behavior. > > > > regards, > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , " mohanraaam " <mohanraaam@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Group: > > > > > > Lalith has made a serious allegation that " there is a nexus > between > > > me and Pandit Dakshinamoorthi " ....There have been certain other > > > persons also who have alluded to that in the past....I want to > > > clarify on that..... > > > > > > I accept that definitely I am an admirer of Pandit > > Dakshinamoorthiji > > > because as an elderly yogi who has seen life, very rarely have I > > come > > > across a person of such a calibre and definitely not in this > > present > > > generation. So, I do write glowingly about him, and I do get > > tensed > > > when someone attacks him, and retort with mails. > > > > > > But, there is no unholy nexus between us. I am not a " paid " > > agent. > > > I write only what I have felt about him. I have no mal > intentions > > in > > > that. I do not think Panditji needs a person like me to sing his > > > praise; as someone in this group wrote earlier " Knowledge needs > no > > > introduction " , and Panditji's knowledge would have been obvious > to > > > everyone in the group. > > > > > > I am supporting Panditji only because as you all might be aware, > he > > > was not contributing to the group regularly for sometime; when > > asked, > > > he said that there were unnecessary controversies and he felt it > is > > > beneath a scholar to indulge in unsavoury exchanges, at the same > > > time, as a practising professional he cannot afford to keep quite > > if > > > someone attacks his professionalism which might spoil his > > > professional image. So, I brought him back with the promise that > I > > > will be his mouthpiece and spokesperson to defend him if > unsavoury > > > controversies arise. Even initially, it was on my invitation > that > > > Guruji joined this group in the first instance. I did this only > > for > > > the benefit of the learner of the group. Guruji is a very private > > > person who tends to hide his Glow in a bushel. I wanted his > > > intelligence and wisdom to benefit many and that is why I > > introduced > > > him to the group; and I support him and write mails only so that > he > > > does not quit the group due to unsavoury incidents. Old members > > will > > > remember that I was once even banned from the group. > > > > > > Other than this, there is no other unholy or mal intentions in my > > > supporting Guruji. Definitely, this is not at his request. He > is > > > not one to make such requests. He will be patient to his limits; > > and > > > if his limit exceeds, he will just walk away from the group which > > > will be the loss to the group. That is why, in an attempt to > > retain > > > his services here, I do write supporting him. > > > > > > In exchanges with Lalith, Guruji is not involved at all. In > fact, > > he > > > requested me not to fight with Lalith and asked me to ignore > him. > > > But, the challenging tone of Lalith only impels me to write again > > and > > > again. But, Guruji's name is unnecessarily drawn into this. > > > > > > THE TRUTH IS THAT I HAVE SEEN GURUJI; BUT GURUJI HAS NOT SEEN ME > > EVEN > > > ONCE IN HIS LIFE. > > > > > > Blessings, > > > Mohanraaam > > > > > > oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 Hello All, Shree Matrenamah, Please refrain from making such allegations about a pious man like Pandit Dakshinamurtiji. I have a personal experience of visiting him and I have found him to be very serene devotee of Devi(I know he does not need our judgement). It is not our dharma for anyone to do mud slinging on him. Each spiritual person has some personal discipline which needs to be respected at any cost. It will be a great sin if we insult a devotee of Devi. Let me make an earnest request to all on the group to refrain from this and let Panditji continue his services to the group. In my personal experience I say that Devi takes her devotees very seriously and it is wrong to strike a wrong chord with a spiritual person or disturb a sadhak with our words. Jai Chandi Maa Regards Srikanth --- kamal kaveripatnam <skandag wrote: > Dear Pt.Dakshinamoorthiji, > > KINDLY DO NOT QUIT FROM THE GROUP SIR. > > Regards > Kamal > > > dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer > vedic astrology > Sunday, August 5, 2007 8:42:43 PM > [vedic astrology] Re: Exposed Relationship btwn MohanRaam and Pt. > Dakshinamoorthiji > > > > > > > Dear Shri. Lalith: > > > > I can only say one thing..... " I am not Mohanraaamji " . I can also say > > with surety that " none of my family members have been doing this. " > > > > It is upto the group to believe it or suspect it. As regards Mr. > > Lalith....I do not consider you even worth as a human being at > > all....and I do not care what people like you think of me. Having > > got benefit out of my consultation, you spoilt my peace of mind by > > constantly harassing me over personal email, pressurized me for my > > personal details without decency, and now you have cast a serious > > aspersion on my dignity and honour. > > > > If the group strongly feels that I have had an unholy nexus, I will > > gladly quit the group. I WANT AN ANSWER FROM THIS GROUP. I will not > > remain in a group where I have been maligned and no body is willing > > to support me. Your silence means that you believe that I could have > > stooped to a level that Lalith alleges that I have done! I cannot > > survive in a place where I am being suspected of mal intentions or > > worse falsehood. I have lived my life on truth and heaven knows what > > heavy prices I have always paid for that! And here, someone who has > > just joined a group for the past 1 or 2 months alleges something > > serious, he claims miracles but casts aspersions on others who have > > really experienced miracles. > > > > As regards comparion between me or Pt. Sanjay Rath or Shri. Narasimha > > Rao, I never compare myself with others. I feel we all have our own > > turfs, and we never have had any misunderstandings or comparisons > > between ourselves. I do not why you want to drag everyone into a > > controversy. > > > > I do not care to be soft any more. This is a serious charge he has > > levelled against me, and I have nothing to prove against this > > matter. It is true that I know that mohanraaamji has been sending > > mails from my computer. I myself traced the matter with the help of > > a software engineer inthis group who helped me out in that matter; > > when he was doing that, one mail from Mohanraaamji was received from > > his own IP address. Mind it, that person was in far away Trivandrum , > > and I am in Chennai. How do you explain this? I have evidence to > > prove that people have received from Mohanraaamji when I was infact > > speaking with others. There are some group members here who know > > that. I want them to speak out to exonerate me;otherwise, this > > charge will stick on me as a disgrace. > > > > He has cast an aspersion on my vedic heritage and says my life itself > > has been false. > > > > If I wanted money, I could have continued in the MNC where I was > > employed after my short stint in the coast Guard. I did not do so. > > If I am commercial, I should be advertising my address, and Phone no. > > to everyone to bait people. No businessman will hide himself as I > > have been doing all along. All these have been ignored, and dangerous > > allegations have been levelled. Ghosts, spirits, miracles, etc. > > cannot be proved as we prove other matters. That is why I avoided > > saying anything on that. In fact,some of the discussions here can be > > treated as contrary to constitutional provisions against > > superstition. So, I naturally had to exercise restraint without > > disclosing certain matters. > > > > EITHER LALITH SHOULD STAY IN THIS GROUP OR I WILL STAY IN THIS GROUP. > > I am saying this because I am sure, this fellow will keep baiting me > > and that will spoil my peace of mind. I did not come into this group > > for getting smeared with mud and dishonour. Either you ban him, or I > > quit the group. I have never claimed ability to perform miracles; in > > fact, I have often times dissuaded people from approaching me with > > such beliefs. > > > > He kept on fighting inspite of frequent requests to stop posting > > inflammatory mails. So, it is his mistake. Mistake or not, let the > > group decide whether it wants me or Lalith. I am taking it > > personally. > > > > Let him do what he feels he must do about this matter. As regards > > me, i want him out of this group or I will be out of this group. > > A Guru should command respect; if that respect is lost, there is no > > point in a Guru continuing his work at all! I continue to swear by > > vedic protocols, vedic discipline, and vedic ethics. > > > > I have done nothing to feel ashamed about. Let anybody think what > > they will! > > > > Blessed be. > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. > > > > vedic astrology, " litsol " <mishra.lalit@ ...> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Group, > === message truncated === ______________________________\ ____ Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join 's user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink./gmrs/_panel_invite.asp?a=7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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