Regarding counting japams...FANTASTIC Postings!!! Keep it going, SIR!

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OM NAMAH SHIVAYAA| OM NAMO BHAGAVATE VASUDEVAYAA!!!

 

NAMASKAARAMs to you, Dakshinamoorthyji!!!

 

Your awe-inspiring posting with that spiritual touch can only come

from an accomplished soul -please keep it going SIR!

 

For the fourth time in the past 10 years, I've realised again that

our questions can best be answered by ourselves, through our own

spiritual and saatwik efforts. This may not apply as much while

seeking spiritual or religious guidance as it does while seeking

astrological guidance, since spiritually advanced souls such as

yourself can certainly guide other impoverished souls [such as

myself].

 

I have a question: given limitations of time and space in our mundane

world, do we have to adhere to strict pre-requisites before chanting

or listening to powerful stotrams like NAKSHATRA SOOKTHAMs, UDAKA

SHANTI MANTRAM, RUDRAM-CHAMAKAM, MAHANYAASAM, MANA-NARAYAANAM, VISHNU

STUTHI, MANTHRA-PUSHPAM, SUDARSHANA-CHAKRA MANTRAas, LAKSHMI-NRISIMHA

STOTRAas, LALITA SAHASRANAAMAM, and even other beeja mantraas? i.e.,

is it improper to listen to these BEFORE the Gayatri japam? I have

found that even listening to these ALL-POWERFUL stotraas/mantraas has

an incredibly cosmic effect that only the listener would be in a

position to describe.

 

Your thoughts please -most grateful for your participation here!

 

Namaskaarams!

Venkat

 

 

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology , " dakshinastrologer "

<dakshinastrologer wrote:

>

> Dear List:

>

> I just want to mention one thing here.....

>

> Mantra shaastra works fast under the following conditions:

>

> 1) The person might have led a spiritual life even in previous

> incarnations, and thus might start this life at a higher level of

> spiritual awareness.

> 2) The person might - due to some good karmas - be born in a

family

> of mantra shastraic adherents. In this case, each succeeding

> generation enjoys the residual energies of the previous

practitioners

> so much that in one particular generation, they are so advanced and

> that success comes to them easily. The struggles of the earlier

> generations have led to the success of this individual (It is

almost

> like property passing on to the successive generations). I am

myself

> a lucky one like that where there were highly successful and

> contented spiritually accomplished ancestors from both my mother's

> line and father's line. Things came easily to me and Guides sought

> me out. It is all the Blessings of my ancestors.

> 3) The individual is highly motivated to lead a highly spiritual

life

> himself and things work out well.

>

> Here, we should make a distinction between " Moola mantraas "

> and " Naama japams " / sthothrams. Moola mantraas of certain calibere

> are to be chanted with proper adherence to spiritual precepts. The

> other mantras can be chanted casually.

>

> Individual experiences will differ. So, it is best to go by the

> words of the saints.

>

> One pointer to whether one is a successful adept in mantra shastra,

> and whether one can enjoy exemptions regarding spiritual matters is

> that such persons need not seek answers to their doubts (even

> regarding astrology) anywhere. The answers will come to them in

> various forms. Anyone who has sought the guidance of any other

human

> being due to inability to understand his own fate is definitely not

> an adept in spirituality, and such persons should adhere to ritual

> guidelines as far as possible. Divine manifestations can happen due

> to the combined merit of the forefathers....but when that quota is

> over, we may start facing the music for our disrespectful approach

> towards the shaastraas!

>

> Another curious thing I have found regarding this.....Spiritually

> accomplished adepts for whom these guidelines and taboos are not

> mandatory, invariably follow these scrupulously either to set a

good

> example to the society or just because they still want to show that

> deference to this wonderful subject; most of us - who don't deserve

> such exemptions, usually start justifying our shortcomings in

> following the mantras with various philosophical explanations.

>

> Regarding Vaachikam, Upaamsu, and Maanasa japams, counting is there

> even for maanasik japams. The counting is automatically done.

Most

> advanced practitioners here might be aware of that.(I myself do

that

> though I still do not know if I qualify to be an expert!) Mantra

> shaastra is an ocean, and one's experience can never be the right

> parameter to judge it or pass comments on it. There are certain

> japaas which qualify for continuous chants, and definitely Moola

> mantras of Deities are not to be treated so casually. (Of course,

in

> an emergency when you seek help you will obviously call forth

those,

> and that is allowed according to the shaastraas).

>

> I humbly request all members to read original works on mantra

> shaastra, or better still under a mantra shaastra practitioner of a

> saatwik quality who do poojas like Navaarnava pooja or Shiva Pooja

or

> any other saatiwik/ vaidic form of pooja. The insight you can get

> will really serve the purpose of this present incarnation.

>

> I would recommend the list members to read through original works

> like

> " Parasuraama kalpam " for Sri Vidhya Pooja, Mantra Mahaarnavam for

> general mantraik principles and also for various upaasanaas, Mantra

> Mahoddati, Sharadaa Tilakam (for learning about some practical

> siddhis), Varivasya Rahasyam, Prapanja Saara(composed by Aadi

> Shankaraachaarya - an encyclopedic work on mantra shaastra),

Prapanja

> saara Sangraha (a concise mantra shastraic work), etc. rather than

> simply going by the words of us mortals (I include myself in this

> list of " fallible mortals " ).

>

> " Sarvaath Rishi Proktha vaakyam sreshtam " - The words of Sages are

> the best among all words. I request our list members to please go

by

> those wonderful words that they have left as their legacies for us

to

> follow.

>

> Otherwise, it will be like Sage Thiromoolar saying " Blind leading

> Blind " ......Our brains dulled by onslaught of sensual pleasures of

> this modern world can never match the unsullied philosophical

> grandeur of those great souls who lived harmonious lives in natural

> surroundings. Their words are not simple words....they are the

> digest of their spiritual experiences and they are our life-line

> while following mantra shaastra practises.

>

> Blessed be.

> Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

>

>

> vedic astrology , " litsol " <mishra.lalit@>

> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Anand Ji,

> >

> > That's why i said, the fixed counting figure given in several

> texts may

> > or may not applicable to all individuals, reason, every one has

his

> > balance of krama, so, what to count ?

> >

> > When ur mantra touches the point it has to awaken u, it will

do,it

> does

> > !!

> >

> > I dont know how much mantra chanting u have done, I have seen my

> father,

> > he did chanting all his life, very strictly according to

shastraas,

> but

> > didn't get things he should get. I think he w'd have chanted more

> that

> > 50 - 60 crores of mantras as of now.

> >

> > i remember during the navaratris he w'd do japa for 5-6 hours in

one

> > sitting, he had a sphatik mala, a rudrakschh mala, all the steps

he

> w'd

> > follow right from viniyog to kschhama parathana.

> >

> > when he didn't get vision of god and other objectives he had, he

> > developed a kind of disinterest. I thoght what is the problem

with

> him,

> > same thing i saw in hundreds of the people's life.

> >

> > frustration comes, it's very practical, it came even in the life

of

> > Swami Vivekananda or lord Buddha. I also went under this period of

> > frustration. however, for me this was a very small period, just 4-

5

> yrs.

> >

> > After those initial days, i never counted mantras, never cared if

i

> have

> > or i dont have a mala with me or not.

> >

> > Do u know chanting mantra in mind is said to be of superior type,

i

> > practised this, when in the bus i was travelling to my office, my

> mantra

> > chanting used to be carrried out.

> >

> > And despite i mainly chanted mantra for my mother god, so many

> dieties,

> > saints and gods either in physical form or in astral form appeared

> > before me. I have seen almost all of them.

> >

> > The purpose of my writing is to share my personal experience.

> >

> > regards,

> > Lalit.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology , Anand Ravi

<anandravi2004@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Om Namah Shivaya

> > >

> > > Dear Lalit ji, Namaste

> > >

> > > One dont get frustrated if they fail in their sadhana, infact

> they get

> > more eager to continue with sadhana. The right way to approach is

> its

> > not a failure but sucess is just getting

> > > delayed due to bad karmas. Mantras are the best way to burn the

> past

> > karmas and to chant a mala is a must.

> > >

> > > Rgds

> > > Anand

> > >

> > > litsol mishra.lalit@ wrote:

> > > Dear Mr. Jayashri,

> > >

> > > A thought came, why i should not share with u, U pls. stop

> counting

> > > mantra chantings, counting mantra gives false ego and then

> > > frustration if u dont get desired results.

> > >

> > > leave it to the god, god counts the mantra chanted by you may be

> > > 108, 1008 or whatsoever, let him count, it's his part and ur

part

> is

> > > to chant the mantra. when the mantra has to awaken, it will be,

> god

> > > will ensure it for u.

> > >

> > > sometimes we try to become more intelligent with out limited

> > > intellect and that creates obstacles in our spiritual growth.

> > >

> > > So, forget about counts, forget about the time u put in for ur's

> > > sadhana, invoke the god with pure heart. purity counts.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Lalit.

> > >

> > > vedic astrology , " dakshinastrologer "

> > > dakshinastrologer@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ms. Jayashree:

> > > >

> > > > I think this topic on 108 is getting very interesting and

> > > > enlightening for all members. Yesterday we had a wonderful

> > > esoteric

> > > > explanation from Shri. Sushil Dikshit, and today your

wonderful

> > > > explanation of numerical symmetry of the cosmos! Wonderful.

> > > >

> > > > There definitely exists a " numerical symphony " in the

Universe.

> > > But,

> > > > not only 108.....as I mentioned in my earlier post, there are

> > > various

> > > > other numerals that are significant in occult practices. 108

is

> a

> > > > powerful and all-purpose perfect number...While we have

> understood

> > > > the glory of 108, we should not lose sight of the fact that

> there

> > > are

> > > > other powerful numbers also. This is just for the information

of

> > > the

> > > > list.

> > > >

> > > > My apprecitation again for this wonderful response.

> > > >

> > > > Blessed be.

> > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > > >

> > > > Blessed be.

> > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.vedic-

> > > > astrology , " jayasartn " <jayasartn@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > In cosmology, 108 has this significance - the moon is away

> from

> > > the

> > > > > earth 108 times its (moon's) diameter and the sun is away

> from the

> > > > > earth, 108 times its diameter.

> > > > >

> > > > > Perhaps this reality of distances is applicable to deities

> too.

> > > > > Perhaps this has been indicated by the 108 divya desas of

Lord

> > > > Narayana.

> > > > >

> > > > > jayasree

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology , " dakshinastrologer "

> > > > > <dakshinastrologer@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Shri. Sushil:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It is a wonderful answer you have given.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Blessed be.

> > > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > vedic astrology , " sushil.dikshit "

> > > > > > <sushil.dikshit@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Babu,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It is not a silly question but it is a very good

question.

> > > > > > Actually

> > > > > > > there are 27 Nakshatras and every Nakshtras has 4

Charan

> so

> > > > total

> > > > > > > charans are 27 x 4 = 108 Charan. Each Charan has 3

degree

> and

> > > > 20

> > > > > > > minutes so if you multiply 3 degree and 20 minutes to

108

> it

> > > > comes

> > > > > > > out to be 360 degress i.e. one cycle (Circle). This

cycle

> > > > > > represetns

> > > > > > > whole brahmand because all the rashis, planets and

> nakshatra

> > > > are

> > > > > > > between these 360 degree in 2 dimensional horoscope. So

> > > > chanting a

> > > > > > > Mantra completes one cycle of this brahmand. Further

One

> who

> > > > has

> > > > > > > visited Brahamand at least one time i.e. he is

> brahmagyani he

> > > > is

> > > > > > > entitiled to place 108 Shri before his name.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > sushil dikshit

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > vedic astrology , babu mon

> > > > <muthappan111@>

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Namaste,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > It may be a silly matter for all of you.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I want to know what is the reason that some remedies

> > > > recomended

> > > > > > > for 108 times.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I dont know any thing about astrology.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I hope you may pleased to provide a reply

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > thanks,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Babu

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers

from

> > > > someone

> > > > > > > who knows.

> > > > > > > > Answers - Check it out.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Shri. Venkat:

 

It is best to chant Gayathri mantra according to proper niyamaas, and

then listen/ chant the other vedic mantras. This is mainly because

Gayathri mantra can nullify the doshas that can arise out of

imperfect chanting of vedic mantras. Gayathri is veda maata, and

only after that Japam should you go for other japams. Time spent on

Gayathri japam is time well spent and even if you are unable to

chant/ listen to any other mantra due to paucity of time, kindly

never ever compromise on Gayathri chant.

 

Strict observances are not required for listening to vedic mantras if

you are regular in your sandhya worship. The mantras you have

mentioned are indeed good not only for the reciter but for the whole

Cosmos!

 

Blessed be.

Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

 

vedic astrology , " shanvar4 " <shanvar4

wrote:

>

> OM NAMAH SHIVAYAA| OM NAMO BHAGAVATE VASUDEVAYAA!!!

>

> NAMASKAARAMs to you, Dakshinamoorthyji!!!

>

> Your awe-inspiring posting with that spiritual touch can only come

> from an accomplished soul -please keep it going SIR!

>

> For the fourth time in the past 10 years, I've realised again that

> our questions can best be answered by ourselves, through our own

> spiritual and saatwik efforts. This may not apply as much while

> seeking spiritual or religious guidance as it does while seeking

> astrological guidance, since spiritually advanced souls such as

> yourself can certainly guide other impoverished souls [such as

> myself].

>

> I have a question: given limitations of time and space in our

mundane

> world, do we have to adhere to strict pre-requisites before

chanting

> or listening to powerful stotrams like NAKSHATRA SOOKTHAMs, UDAKA

> SHANTI MANTRAM, RUDRAM-CHAMAKAM, MAHANYAASAM, MANA-NARAYAANAM,

VISHNU

> STUTHI, MANTHRA-PUSHPAM, SUDARSHANA-CHAKRA MANTRAas, LAKSHMI-

NRISIMHA

> STOTRAas, LALITA SAHASRANAAMAM, and even other beeja mantraas?

i.e.,

> is it improper to listen to these BEFORE the Gayatri japam? I have

> found that even listening to these ALL-POWERFUL stotraas/mantraas

has

> an incredibly cosmic effect that only the listener would be in a

> position to describe.

>

> Your thoughts please -most grateful for your participation here!

>

> Namaskaarams!

> Venkat

vedic astrology , " dakshinastrologer "

> <dakshinastrologer@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear List:

> >

> > I just want to mention one thing here.....

> >

> > Mantra shaastra works fast under the following conditions:

> >

> > 1) The person might have led a spiritual life even in previous

> > incarnations, and thus might start this life at a higher level of

> > spiritual awareness.

> > 2) The person might - due to some good karmas - be born in a

> family

> > of mantra shastraic adherents. In this case, each succeeding

> > generation enjoys the residual energies of the previous

> practitioners

> > so much that in one particular generation, they are so advanced

and

> > that success comes to them easily. The struggles of the earlier

> > generations have led to the success of this individual (It is

> almost

> > like property passing on to the successive generations). I am

> myself

> > a lucky one like that where there were highly successful and

> > contented spiritually accomplished ancestors from both my

mother's

> > line and father's line. Things came easily to me and Guides

sought

> > me out. It is all the Blessings of my ancestors.

> > 3) The individual is highly motivated to lead a highly spiritual

> life

> > himself and things work out well.

> >

> > Here, we should make a distinction between " Moola mantraas "

> > and " Naama japams " / sthothrams. Moola mantraas of certain

calibere

> > are to be chanted with proper adherence to spiritual precepts.

The

> > other mantras can be chanted casually.

> >

> > Individual experiences will differ. So, it is best to go by the

> > words of the saints.

> >

> > One pointer to whether one is a successful adept in mantra

shastra,

> > and whether one can enjoy exemptions regarding spiritual matters

is

> > that such persons need not seek answers to their doubts (even

> > regarding astrology) anywhere. The answers will come to them in

> > various forms. Anyone who has sought the guidance of any other

> human

> > being due to inability to understand his own fate is definitely

not

> > an adept in spirituality, and such persons should adhere to

ritual

> > guidelines as far as possible. Divine manifestations can happen

due

> > to the combined merit of the forefathers....but when that quota

is

> > over, we may start facing the music for our disrespectful

approach

> > towards the shaastraas!

> >

> > Another curious thing I have found regarding this.....Spiritually

> > accomplished adepts for whom these guidelines and taboos are not

> > mandatory, invariably follow these scrupulously either to set a

> good

> > example to the society or just because they still want to show

that

> > deference to this wonderful subject; most of us - who don't

deserve

> > such exemptions, usually start justifying our shortcomings in

> > following the mantras with various philosophical explanations.

> >

> > Regarding Vaachikam, Upaamsu, and Maanasa japams, counting is

there

> > even for maanasik japams. The counting is automatically done.

> Most

> > advanced practitioners here might be aware of that.(I myself do

> that

> > though I still do not know if I qualify to be an expert!) Mantra

> > shaastra is an ocean, and one's experience can never be the right

> > parameter to judge it or pass comments on it. There are certain

> > japaas which qualify for continuous chants, and definitely Moola

> > mantras of Deities are not to be treated so casually. (Of

course,

> in

> > an emergency when you seek help you will obviously call forth

> those,

> > and that is allowed according to the shaastraas).

> >

> > I humbly request all members to read original works on mantra

> > shaastra, or better still under a mantra shaastra practitioner of

a

> > saatwik quality who do poojas like Navaarnava pooja or Shiva

Pooja

> or

> > any other saatiwik/ vaidic form of pooja. The insight you can

get

> > will really serve the purpose of this present incarnation.

> >

> > I would recommend the list members to read through original works

> > like

> > " Parasuraama kalpam " for Sri Vidhya Pooja, Mantra Mahaarnavam for

> > general mantraik principles and also for various upaasanaas,

Mantra

> > Mahoddati, Sharadaa Tilakam (for learning about some practical

> > siddhis), Varivasya Rahasyam, Prapanja Saara(composed by Aadi

> > Shankaraachaarya - an encyclopedic work on mantra shaastra),

> Prapanja

> > saara Sangraha (a concise mantra shastraic work), etc. rather

than

> > simply going by the words of us mortals (I include myself in this

> > list of " fallible mortals " ).

> >

> > " Sarvaath Rishi Proktha vaakyam sreshtam " - The words of Sages

are

> > the best among all words. I request our list members to please

go

> by

> > those wonderful words that they have left as their legacies for

us

> to

> > follow.

> >

> > Otherwise, it will be like Sage Thiromoolar saying " Blind leading

> > Blind " ......Our brains dulled by onslaught of sensual pleasures

of

> > this modern world can never match the unsullied philosophical

> > grandeur of those great souls who lived harmonious lives in

natural

> > surroundings. Their words are not simple words....they are the

> > digest of their spiritual experiences and they are our life-line

> > while following mantra shaastra practises.

> >

> > Blessed be.

> > Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology , " litsol " <mishra.lalit@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Anand Ji,

> > >

> > > That's why i said, the fixed counting figure given in several

> > texts may

> > > or may not applicable to all individuals, reason, every one has

> his

> > > balance of krama, so, what to count ?

> > >

> > > When ur mantra touches the point it has to awaken u, it will

> do,it

> > does

> > > !!

> > >

> > > I dont know how much mantra chanting u have done, I have seen

my

> > father,

> > > he did chanting all his life, very strictly according to

> shastraas,

> > but

> > > didn't get things he should get. I think he w'd have chanted

more

> > that

> > > 50 - 60 crores of mantras as of now.

> > >

> > > i remember during the navaratris he w'd do japa for 5-6 hours

in

> one

> > > sitting, he had a sphatik mala, a rudrakschh mala, all the

steps

> he

> > w'd

> > > follow right from viniyog to kschhama parathana.

> > >

> > > when he didn't get vision of god and other objectives he had, he

> > > developed a kind of disinterest. I thoght what is the problem

> with

> > him,

> > > same thing i saw in hundreds of the people's life.

> > >

> > > frustration comes, it's very practical, it came even in the

life

> of

> > > Swami Vivekananda or lord Buddha. I also went under this period

of

> > > frustration. however, for me this was a very small period, just

4-

> 5

> > yrs.

> > >

> > > After those initial days, i never counted mantras, never cared

if

> i

> > have

> > > or i dont have a mala with me or not.

> > >

> > > Do u know chanting mantra in mind is said to be of superior

type,

> i

> > > practised this, when in the bus i was travelling to my office,

my

> > mantra

> > > chanting used to be carrried out.

> > >

> > > And despite i mainly chanted mantra for my mother god, so many

> > dieties,

> > > saints and gods either in physical form or in astral form

appeared

> > > before me. I have seen almost all of them.

> > >

> > > The purpose of my writing is to share my personal experience.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Lalit.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > vedic astrology , Anand Ravi

> <anandravi2004@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Om Namah Shivaya

> > > >

> > > > Dear Lalit ji, Namaste

> > > >

> > > > One dont get frustrated if they fail in their sadhana, infact

> > they get

> > > more eager to continue with sadhana. The right way to approach

is

> > its

> > > not a failure but sucess is just getting

> > > > delayed due to bad karmas. Mantras are the best way to burn

the

> > past

> > > karmas and to chant a mala is a must.

> > > >

> > > > Rgds

> > > > Anand

> > > >

> > > > litsol mishra.lalit@ wrote:

> > > > Dear Mr. Jayashri,

> > > >

> > > > A thought came, why i should not share with u, U pls. stop

> > counting

> > > > mantra chantings, counting mantra gives false ego and then

> > > > frustration if u dont get desired results.

> > > >

> > > > leave it to the god, god counts the mantra chanted by you may

be

> > > > 108, 1008 or whatsoever, let him count, it's his part and ur

> part

> > is

> > > > to chant the mantra. when the mantra has to awaken, it will

be,

> > god

> > > > will ensure it for u.

> > > >

> > > > sometimes we try to become more intelligent with out limited

> > > > intellect and that creates obstacles in our spiritual growth.

> > > >

> > > > So, forget about counts, forget about the time u put in for

ur's

> > > > sadhana, invoke the god with pure heart. purity counts.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Lalit.

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology , " dakshinastrologer "

> > > > dakshinastrologer@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Ms. Jayashree:

> > > > >

> > > > > I think this topic on 108 is getting very interesting and

> > > > > enlightening for all members. Yesterday we had a wonderful

> > > > esoteric

> > > > > explanation from Shri. Sushil Dikshit, and today your

> wonderful

> > > > > explanation of numerical symmetry of the cosmos! Wonderful.

> > > > >

> > > > > There definitely exists a " numerical symphony " in the

> Universe.

> > > > But,

> > > > > not only 108.....as I mentioned in my earlier post, there

are

> > > > various

> > > > > other numerals that are significant in occult practices.

108

> is

> > a

> > > > > powerful and all-purpose perfect number...While we have

> > understood

> > > > > the glory of 108, we should not lose sight of the fact that

> > there

> > > > are

> > > > > other powerful numbers also. This is just for the

information

> of

> > > > the

> > > > > list.

> > > > >

> > > > > My apprecitation again for this wonderful response.

> > > > >

> > > > > Blessed be.

> > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > > > >

> > > > > Blessed be.

> > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.vedic-

> > > > > astrology , " jayasartn " <jayasartn@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In cosmology, 108 has this significance - the moon is

away

> > from

> > > > the

> > > > > > earth 108 times its (moon's) diameter and the sun is away

> > from the

> > > > > > earth, 108 times its diameter.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Perhaps this reality of distances is applicable to

deities

> > too.

> > > > > > Perhaps this has been indicated by the 108 divya desas of

> Lord

> > > > > Narayana.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > jayasree

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > vedic-

astrology , " dakshinastrologer "

> > > > > > <dakshinastrologer@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Shri. Sushil:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It is a wonderful answer you have given.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Blessed be.

> > > > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > vedic astrology , " sushil.dikshit "

> > > > > > > <sushil.dikshit@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Babu,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > It is not a silly question but it is a very good

> question.

> > > > > > > Actually

> > > > > > > > there are 27 Nakshatras and every Nakshtras has 4

> Charan

> > so

> > > > > total

> > > > > > > > charans are 27 x 4 = 108 Charan. Each Charan has 3

> degree

> > and

> > > > > 20

> > > > > > > > minutes so if you multiply 3 degree and 20 minutes to

> 108

> > it

> > > > > comes

> > > > > > > > out to be 360 degress i.e. one cycle (Circle). This

> cycle

> > > > > > > represetns

> > > > > > > > whole brahmand because all the rashis, planets and

> > nakshatra

> > > > > are

> > > > > > > > between these 360 degree in 2 dimensional horoscope.

So

> > > > > chanting a

> > > > > > > > Mantra completes one cycle of this brahmand. Further

> One

> > who

> > > > > has

> > > > > > > > visited Brahamand at least one time i.e. he is

> > brahmagyani he

> > > > > is

> > > > > > > > entitiled to place 108 Shri before his name.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > sushil dikshit

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > vedic astrology , babu mon

> > > > > <muthappan111@>

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Namaste,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > It may be a silly matter for all of you.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I want to know what is the reason that some remedies

> > > > > recomended

> > > > > > > > for 108 times.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I dont know any thing about astrology.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I hope you may pleased to provide a reply

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > thanks,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Babu

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers

> from

> > > > > someone

> > > > > > > > who knows.

> > > > > > > > > Answers - Check it out.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

removed]

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

How to do gayatri properly?

 

 

 

dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer

vedic astrology

Sunday, July 29, 2007 12:08:40 AM

[vedic astrology] Re: Regarding counting japams...FANTASTIC Postings!!!

Keep it going, SIR!

 

Dear Shri. Venkat:

 

It is best to chant Gayathri mantra according to proper niyamaas, and

then listen/ chant the other vedic mantras. This is mainly because

Gayathri mantra can nullify the doshas that can arise out of

imperfect chanting of vedic mantras. Gayathri is veda maata, and

only after that Japam should you go for other japams. Time spent on

Gayathri japam is time well spent and even if you are unable to

chant/ listen to any other mantra due to paucity of time, kindly

never ever compromise on Gayathri chant.

 

Strict observances are not required for listening to vedic mantras if

you are regular in your sandhya worship. The mantras you have

mentioned are indeed good not only for the reciter but for the whole

Cosmos!

 

Blessed be.

Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

 

vedic astrology, " shanvar4 " <shanvar4@.. .>

wrote:

>

> OM NAMAH SHIVAYAA| OM NAMO BHAGAVATE VASUDEVAYAA! !!

>

> NAMASKAARAMs to you, Dakshinamoorthyji! !!

>

> Your awe-inspiring posting with that spiritual touch can only come

> from an accomplished soul -please keep it going SIR!

>

> For the fourth time in the past 10 years, I've realised again that

> our questions can best be answered by ourselves, through our own

> spiritual and saatwik efforts. This may not apply as much while

> seeking spiritual or religious guidance as it does while seeking

> astrological guidance, since spiritually advanced souls such as

> yourself can certainly guide other impoverished souls [such as

> myself].

>

> I have a question: given limitations of time and space in our

mundane

> world, do we have to adhere to strict pre-requisites before

chanting

> or listening to powerful stotrams like NAKSHATRA SOOKTHAMs, UDAKA

> SHANTI MANTRAM, RUDRAM-CHAMAKAM, MAHANYAASAM, MANA-NARAYAANAM,

VISHNU

> STUTHI, MANTHRA-PUSHPAM, SUDARSHANA-CHAKRA MANTRAas, LAKSHMI-

NRISIMHA

> STOTRAas, LALITA SAHASRANAAMAM, and even other beeja mantraas?

i.e.,

> is it improper to listen to these BEFORE the Gayatri japam? I have

> found that even listening to these ALL-POWERFUL stotraas/mantraas

has

> an incredibly cosmic effect that only the listener would be in a

> position to describe.

>

> Your thoughts please -most grateful for your participation here!

>

> Namaskaarams!

> Venkat

vedic astrology, " dakshinastrologer "

> <dakshinastrologer@ > wrote:

> >

> > Dear List:

> >

> > I just want to mention one thing here.....

> >

> > Mantra shaastra works fast under the following conditions:

> >

> > 1) The person might have led a spiritual life even in previous

> > incarnations, and thus might start this life at a higher level of

> > spiritual awareness.

> > 2) The person might - due to some good karmas - be born in a

> family

> > of mantra shastraic adherents. In this case, each succeeding

> > generation enjoys the residual energies of the previous

> practitioners

> > so much that in one particular generation, they are so advanced

and

> > that success comes to them easily. The struggles of the earlier

> > generations have led to the success of this individual (It is

> almost

> > like property passing on to the successive generations) . I am

> myself

> > a lucky one like that where there were highly successful and

> > contented spiritually accomplished ancestors from both my

mother's

> > line and father's line. Things came easily to me and Guides

sought

> > me out. It is all the Blessings of my ancestors.

> > 3) The individual is highly motivated to lead a highly spiritual

> life

> > himself and things work out well.

> >

> > Here, we should make a distinction between " Moola mantraas "

> > and " Naama japams " / sthothrams. Moola mantraas of certain

calibere

> > are to be chanted with proper adherence to spiritual precepts.

The

> > other mantras can be chanted casually.

> >

> > Individual experiences will differ. So, it is best to go by the

> > words of the saints.

> >

> > One pointer to whether one is a successful adept in mantra

shastra,

> > and whether one can enjoy exemptions regarding spiritual matters

is

> > that such persons need not seek answers to their doubts (even

> > regarding astrology) anywhere. The answers will come to them in

> > various forms. Anyone who has sought the guidance of any other

> human

> > being due to inability to understand his own fate is definitely

not

> > an adept in spirituality, and such persons should adhere to

ritual

> > guidelines as far as possible. Divine manifestations can happen

due

> > to the combined merit of the forefathers. ...but when that quota

is

> > over, we may start facing the music for our disrespectful

approach

> > towards the shaastraas!

> >

> > Another curious thing I have found regarding this.....Spirituall y

> > accomplished adepts for whom these guidelines and taboos are not

> > mandatory, invariably follow these scrupulously either to set a

> good

> > example to the society or just because they still want to show

that

> > deference to this wonderful subject; most of us - who don't

deserve

> > such exemptions, usually start justifying our shortcomings in

> > following the mantras with various philosophical explanations.

> >

> > Regarding Vaachikam, Upaamsu, and Maanasa japams, counting is

there

> > even for maanasik japams. The counting is automatically done.

> Most

> > advanced practitioners here might be aware of that.(I myself do

> that

> > though I still do not know if I qualify to be an expert!) Mantra

> > shaastra is an ocean, and one's experience can never be the right

> > parameter to judge it or pass comments on it. There are certain

> > japaas which qualify for continuous chants, and definitely Moola

> > mantras of Deities are not to be treated so casually. (Of

course,

> in

> > an emergency when you seek help you will obviously call forth

> those,

> > and that is allowed according to the shaastraas).

> >

> > I humbly request all members to read original works on mantra

> > shaastra, or better still under a mantra shaastra practitioner of

a

> > saatwik quality who do poojas like Navaarnava pooja or Shiva

Pooja

> or

> > any other saatiwik/ vaidic form of pooja. The insight you can

get

> > will really serve the purpose of this present incarnation.

> >

> > I would recommend the list members to read through original works

> > like

> > " Parasuraama kalpam " for Sri Vidhya Pooja, Mantra Mahaarnavam for

> > general mantraik principles and also for various upaasanaas,

Mantra

> > Mahoddati, Sharadaa Tilakam (for learning about some practical

> > siddhis), Varivasya Rahasyam, Prapanja Saara(composed by Aadi

> > Shankaraachaarya - an encyclopedic work on mantra shaastra),

> Prapanja

> > saara Sangraha (a concise mantra shastraic work), etc. rather

than

> > simply going by the words of us mortals (I include myself in this

> > list of " fallible mortals " ).

> >

> > " Sarvaath Rishi Proktha vaakyam sreshtam " - The words of Sages

are

> > the best among all words. I request our list members to please

go

> by

> > those wonderful words that they have left as their legacies for

us

> to

> > follow.

> >

> > Otherwise, it will be like Sage Thiromoolar saying " Blind leading

> > Blind " ...... Our brains dulled by onslaught of sensual pleasures

of

> > this modern world can never match the unsullied philosophical

> > grandeur of those great souls who lived harmonious lives in

natural

> > surroundings. Their words are not simple words....they are the

> > digest of their spiritual experiences and they are our life-line

> > while following mantra shaastra practises.

> >

> > Blessed be.

> > Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, " litsol " <mishra.lalit@ >

> > wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Anand Ji,

> > >

> > > That's why i said, the fixed counting figure given in several

> > texts may

> > > or may not applicable to all individuals, reason, every one has

> his

> > > balance of krama, so, what to count ?

> > >

> > > When ur mantra touches the point it has to awaken u, it will

> do,it

> > does

> > > !!

> > >

> > > I dont know how much mantra chanting u have done, I have seen

my

> > father,

> > > he did chanting all his life, very strictly according to

> shastraas,

> > but

> > > didn't get things he should get. I think he w'd have chanted

more

> > that

> > > 50 - 60 crores of mantras as of now.

> > >

> > > i remember during the navaratris he w'd do japa for 5-6 hours

in

> one

> > > sitting, he had a sphatik mala, a rudrakschh mala, all the

steps

> he

> > w'd

> > > follow right from viniyog to kschhama parathana.

> > >

> > > when he didn't get vision of god and other objectives he had, he

> > > developed a kind of disinterest. I thoght what is the problem

> with

> > him,

> > > same thing i saw in hundreds of the people's life.

> > >

> > > frustration comes, it's very practical, it came even in the

life

> of

> > > Swami Vivekananda or lord Buddha. I also went under this period

of

> > > frustration. however, for me this was a very small period, just

4-

> 5

> > yrs.

> > >

> > > After those initial days, i never counted mantras, never cared

if

> i

> > have

> > > or i dont have a mala with me or not.

> > >

> > > Do u know chanting mantra in mind is said to be of superior

type,

> i

> > > practised this, when in the bus i was travelling to my office,

my

> > mantra

> > > chanting used to be carrried out.

> > >

> > > And despite i mainly chanted mantra for my mother god, so many

> > dieties,

> > > saints and gods either in physical form or in astral form

appeared

> > > before me. I have seen almost all of them.

> > >

> > > The purpose of my writing is to share my personal experience.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Lalit.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, Anand Ravi

> <anandravi2004@ >

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Om Namah Shivaya

> > > >

> > > > Dear Lalit ji, Namaste

> > > >

> > > > One dont get frustrated if they fail in their sadhana, infact

> > they get

> > > more eager to continue with sadhana. The right way to approach

is

> > its

> > > not a failure but sucess is just getting

> > > > delayed due to bad karmas. Mantras are the best way to burn

the

> > past

> > > karmas and to chant a mala is a must.

> > > >

> > > > Rgds

> > > > Anand

> > > >

> > > > litsol mishra.lalit@ wrote:

> > > > Dear Mr. Jayashri,

> > > >

> > > > A thought came, why i should not share with u, U pls. stop

> > counting

> > > > mantra chantings, counting mantra gives false ego and then

> > > > frustration if u dont get desired results.

> > > >

> > > > leave it to the god, god counts the mantra chanted by you may

be

> > > > 108, 1008 or whatsoever, let him count, it's his part and ur

> part

> > is

> > > > to chant the mantra. when the mantra has to awaken, it will

be,

> > god

> > > > will ensure it for u.

> > > >

> > > > sometimes we try to become more intelligent with out limited

> > > > intellect and that creates obstacles in our spiritual growth.

> > > >

> > > > So, forget about counts, forget about the time u put in for

ur's

> > > > sadhana, invoke the god with pure heart. purity counts.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Lalit.

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology, " dakshinastrologer "

> > > > dakshinastrologer@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Ms. Jayashree:

> > > > >

> > > > > I think this topic on 108 is getting very interesting and

> > > > > enlightening for all members. Yesterday we had a wonderful

> > > > esoteric

> > > > > explanation from Shri. Sushil Dikshit, and today your

> wonderful

> > > > > explanation of numerical symmetry of the cosmos! Wonderful.

> > > > >

> > > > > There definitely exists a " numerical symphony " in the

> Universe.

> > > > But,

> > > > > not only 108.....as I mentioned in my earlier post, there

are

> > > > various

> > > > > other numerals that are significant in occult practices.

108

> is

> > a

> > > > > powerful and all-purpose perfect number...While we have

> > understood

> > > > > the glory of 108, we should not lose sight of the fact that

> > there

> > > > are

> > > > > other powerful numbers also. This is just for the

information

> of

> > > > the

> > > > > list.

> > > > >

> > > > > My apprecitation again for this wonderful response.

> > > > >

> > > > > Blessed be.

> > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > > > >

> > > > > Blessed be.

> > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. vedic-

> > > > > astrology@grou ps.com, " jayasartn " <jayasartn@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In cosmology, 108 has this significance - the moon is

away

> > from

> > > > the

> > > > > > earth 108 times its (moon's) diameter and the sun is away

> > from the

> > > > > > earth, 108 times its diameter.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Perhaps this reality of distances is applicable to

deities

> > too.

> > > > > > Perhaps this has been indicated by the 108 divya desas of

> Lord

> > > > > Narayana.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > jayasree

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > vedic-

astrology@grou ps.com, " dakshinastrologer "

> > > > > > <dakshinastrologer@ > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Shri. Sushil:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It is a wonderful answer you have given.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Blessed be.

> > > > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > vedic astrology, " sushil.dikshit "

> > > > > > > <sushil.dikshit@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Babu,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > It is not a silly question but it is a very good

> question.

> > > > > > > Actually

> > > > > > > > there are 27 Nakshatras and every Nakshtras has 4

> Charan

> > so

> > > > > total

> > > > > > > > charans are 27 x 4 = 108 Charan. Each Charan has 3

> degree

> > and

> > > > > 20

> > > > > > > > minutes so if you multiply 3 degree and 20 minutes to

> 108

> > it

> > > > > comes

> > > > > > > > out to be 360 degress i.e. one cycle (Circle). This

> cycle

> > > > > > > represetns

> > > > > > > > whole brahmand because all the rashis, planets and

> > nakshatra

> > > > > are

> > > > > > > > between these 360 degree in 2 dimensional horoscope.

So

> > > > > chanting a

> > > > > > > > Mantra completes one cycle of this brahmand. Further

> One

> > who

> > > > > has

> > > > > > > > visited Brahamand at least one time i.e. he is

> > brahmagyani he

> > > > > is

> > > > > > > > entitiled to place 108 Shri before his name.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > sushil dikshit

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > vedic astrology, babu mon

> > > > > <muthappan111@ >

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Namaste,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > It may be a silly matter for all of you.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I want to know what is the reason that some remedies

> > > > > recomended

> > > > > > > > for 108 times.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I dont know any thing about astrology.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I hope you may pleased to provide a reply

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > thanks,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Babu

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---

> > > > > > > > > Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers

> from

> > > > > someone

> > > > > > > > who knows.

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> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

removed]

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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> > > >

> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---

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[Guest guest]

Pandit Ji,

 

pls. explain, my doubt on gayatri, u already know i have been chanting

gayatri mantra for may years, my upnayan samskaar (janeu) happened when

i was 12, since then i m doing it, i stopped it also for sometime, but

resumed after some time.

 

When i contemplate on the meaning of Gayati Mantra, I find, it says to

invoke Savita, it means, Gyatri chanting is kind of reminder to invoke

Savita, so, the objective is to invoke Savita and seek his blessings.

 

Savita's charactersitc is also explained in Gayatri Mantra. So, Why it's

said to chant Gayatri as a mantra, rather it should be said to invoke

Savita.

 

Now i do it this way, I will chant gayatri, will get relaxed and will

reach to a single minded status, and then pray to Savita, to give me

" Dhee " and to remove the darkness within as well as my bad sanskaars.

 

what u do think about it , Pls. tell me, This has been in my mind

eversince i knew meaning of Gayatri Mantra. Well, i m doing the modifed

gayatri mantra suggsted by you, i knew that, but i didn't know i should

do that.

 

regards,

Lalit.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology , Shindi <sinhazz wrote:

>

> How to do gayatri properly?

>

>

>

> dakshinastrologer dakshinastrologer

> vedic astrology

> Sunday, July 29, 2007 12:08:40 AM

> [vedic astrology] Re: Regarding counting japams...FANTASTIC

Postings!!! Keep it going, SIR!

>

> Dear Shri. Venkat:

>

> It is best to chant Gayathri mantra according to proper niyamaas, and

> then listen/ chant the other vedic mantras. This is mainly because

> Gayathri mantra can nullify the doshas that can arise out of

> imperfect chanting of vedic mantras. Gayathri is veda maata, and

> only after that Japam should you go for other japams. Time spent on

> Gayathri japam is time well spent and even if you are unable to

> chant/ listen to any other mantra due to paucity of time, kindly

> never ever compromise on Gayathri chant.

>

> Strict observances are not required for listening to vedic mantras if

> you are regular in your sandhya worship. The mantras you have

> mentioned are indeed good not only for the reciter but for the whole

> Cosmos!

>

> Blessed be.

> Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

>

> vedic astrology, " shanvar4 " shanvar4@ .>

> wrote:

> >

> > OM NAMAH SHIVAYAA| OM NAMO BHAGAVATE VASUDEVAYAA! !!

> >

> > NAMASKAARAMs to you, Dakshinamoorthyji! !!

> >

> > Your awe-inspiring posting with that spiritual touch can only come

> > from an accomplished soul -please keep it going SIR!

> >

> > For the fourth time in the past 10 years, I've realised again that

> > our questions can best be answered by ourselves, through our own

> > spiritual and saatwik efforts. This may not apply as much while

> > seeking spiritual or religious guidance as it does while seeking

> > astrological guidance, since spiritually advanced souls such as

> > yourself can certainly guide other impoverished souls [such as

> > myself].

> >

> > I have a question: given limitations of time and space in our

> mundane

> > world, do we have to adhere to strict pre-requisites before

> chanting

> > or listening to powerful stotrams like NAKSHATRA SOOKTHAMs, UDAKA

> > SHANTI MANTRAM, RUDRAM-CHAMAKAM, MAHANYAASAM, MANA-NARAYAANAM,

> VISHNU

> > STUTHI, MANTHRA-PUSHPAM, SUDARSHANA-CHAKRA MANTRAas, LAKSHMI-

> NRISIMHA

> > STOTRAas, LALITA SAHASRANAAMAM, and even other beeja mantraas?

> i.e.,

> > is it improper to listen to these BEFORE the Gayatri japam? I have

> > found that even listening to these ALL-POWERFUL stotraas/mantraas

> has

> > an incredibly cosmic effect that only the listener would be in a

> > position to describe.

> >

> > Your thoughts please -most grateful for your participation here!

> >

> > Namaskaarams!

> > Venkat

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, " dakshinastrologer "

> > <dakshinastrologer@ > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear List:

> > >

> > > I just want to mention one thing here.....

> > >

> > > Mantra shaastra works fast under the following conditions:

> > >

> > > 1) The person might have led a spiritual life even in previous

> > > incarnations, and thus might start this life at a higher level of

> > > spiritual awareness.

> > > 2) The person might - due to some good karmas - be born in a

> > family

> > > of mantra shastraic adherents. In this case, each succeeding

> > > generation enjoys the residual energies of the previous

> > practitioners

> > > so much that in one particular generation, they are so advanced

> and

> > > that success comes to them easily. The struggles of the earlier

> > > generations have led to the success of this individual (It is

> > almost

> > > like property passing on to the successive generations) . I am

> > myself

> > > a lucky one like that where there were highly successful and

> > > contented spiritually accomplished ancestors from both my

> mother's

> > > line and father's line. Things came easily to me and Guides

> sought

> > > me out. It is all the Blessings of my ancestors.

> > > 3) The individual is highly motivated to lead a highly spiritual

> > life

> > > himself and things work out well.

> > >

> > > Here, we should make a distinction between " Moola mantraas "

> > > and " Naama japams " / sthothrams. Moola mantraas of certain

> calibere

> > > are to be chanted with proper adherence to spiritual precepts.

> The

> > > other mantras can be chanted casually.

> > >

> > > Individual experiences will differ. So, it is best to go by the

> > > words of the saints.

> > >

> > > One pointer to whether one is a successful adept in mantra

> shastra,

> > > and whether one can enjoy exemptions regarding spiritual matters

> is

> > > that such persons need not seek answers to their doubts (even

> > > regarding astrology) anywhere. The answers will come to them in

> > > various forms. Anyone who has sought the guidance of any other

> > human

> > > being due to inability to understand his own fate is definitely

> not

> > > an adept in spirituality, and such persons should adhere to

> ritual

> > > guidelines as far as possible. Divine manifestations can happen

> due

> > > to the combined merit of the forefathers. ...but when that quota

> is

> > > over, we may start facing the music for our disrespectful

> approach

> > > towards the shaastraas!

> > >

> > > Another curious thing I have found regarding this.....Spirituall y

> > > accomplished adepts for whom these guidelines and taboos are not

> > > mandatory, invariably follow these scrupulously either to set a

> > good

> > > example to the society or just because they still want to show

> that

> > > deference to this wonderful subject; most of us - who don't

> deserve

> > > such exemptions, usually start justifying our shortcomings in

> > > following the mantras with various philosophical explanations.

> > >

> > > Regarding Vaachikam, Upaamsu, and Maanasa japams, counting is

> there

> > > even for maanasik japams. The counting is automatically done.

> > Most

> > > advanced practitioners here might be aware of that.(I myself do

> > that

> > > though I still do not know if I qualify to be an expert!) Mantra

> > > shaastra is an ocean, and one's experience can never be the right

> > > parameter to judge it or pass comments on it. There are certain

> > > japaas which qualify for continuous chants, and definitely Moola

> > > mantras of Deities are not to be treated so casually. (Of

> course,

> > in

> > > an emergency when you seek help you will obviously call forth

> > those,

> > > and that is allowed according to the shaastraas).

> > >

> > > I humbly request all members to read original works on mantra

> > > shaastra, or better still under a mantra shaastra practitioner of

> a

> > > saatwik quality who do poojas like Navaarnava pooja or Shiva

> Pooja

> > or

> > > any other saatiwik/ vaidic form of pooja. The insight you can

> get

> > > will really serve the purpose of this present incarnation.

> > >

> > > I would recommend the list members to read through original works

> > > like

> > > " Parasuraama kalpam " for Sri Vidhya Pooja, Mantra Mahaarnavam for

> > > general mantraik principles and also for various upaasanaas,

> Mantra

> > > Mahoddati, Sharadaa Tilakam (for learning about some practical

> > > siddhis), Varivasya Rahasyam, Prapanja Saara(composed by Aadi

> > > Shankaraachaarya - an encyclopedic work on mantra shaastra),

> > Prapanja

> > > saara Sangraha (a concise mantra shastraic work), etc. rather

> than

> > > simply going by the words of us mortals (I include myself in this

> > > list of " fallible mortals " ).

> > >

> > > " Sarvaath Rishi Proktha vaakyam sreshtam " - The words of Sages

> are

> > > the best among all words. I request our list members to please

> go

> > by

> > > those wonderful words that they have left as their legacies for

> us

> > to

> > > follow.

> > >

> > > Otherwise, it will be like Sage Thiromoolar saying " Blind leading

> > > Blind " ...... Our brains dulled by onslaught of sensual pleasures

> of

> > > this modern world can never match the unsullied philosophical

> > > grandeur of those great souls who lived harmonious lives in

> natural

> > > surroundings. Their words are not simple words....they are the

> > > digest of their spiritual experiences and they are our life-line

> > > while following mantra shaastra practises.

> > >

> > > Blessed be.

> > > Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > >

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, " litsol " <mishra.lalit@

>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Anand Ji,

> > > >

> > > > That's why i said, the fixed counting figure given in several

> > > texts may

> > > > or may not applicable to all individuals, reason, every one has

> > his

> > > > balance of krama, so, what to count ?

> > > >

> > > > When ur mantra touches the point it has to awaken u, it will

> > do,it

> > > does

> > > > !!

> > > >

> > > > I dont know how much mantra chanting u have done, I have seen

> my

> > > father,

> > > > he did chanting all his life, very strictly according to

> > shastraas,

> > > but

> > > > didn't get things he should get. I think he w'd have chanted

> more

> > > that

> > > > 50 - 60 crores of mantras as of now.

> > > >

> > > > i remember during the navaratris he w'd do japa for 5-6 hours

> in

> > one

> > > > sitting, he had a sphatik mala, a rudrakschh mala, all the

> steps

> > he

> > > w'd

> > > > follow right from viniyog to kschhama parathana.

> > > >

> > > > when he didn't get vision of god and other objectives he had, he

> > > > developed a kind of disinterest. I thoght what is the problem

> > with

> > > him,

> > > > same thing i saw in hundreds of the people's life.

> > > >

> > > > frustration comes, it's very practical, it came even in the

> life

> > of

> > > > Swami Vivekananda or lord Buddha. I also went under this period

> of

> > > > frustration. however, for me this was a very small period, just

> 4-

> > 5

> > > yrs.

> > > >

> > > > After those initial days, i never counted mantras, never cared

> if

> > i

> > > have

> > > > or i dont have a mala with me or not.

> > > >

> > > > Do u know chanting mantra in mind is said to be of superior

> type,

> > i

> > > > practised this, when in the bus i was travelling to my office,

> my

> > > mantra

> > > > chanting used to be carrried out.

> > > >

> > > > And despite i mainly chanted mantra for my mother god, so many

> > > dieties,

> > > > saints and gods either in physical form or in astral form

> appeared

> > > > before me. I have seen almost all of them.

> > > >

> > > > The purpose of my writing is to share my personal experience.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Lalit.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology, Anand Ravi

> > <anandravi2004@ >

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Om Namah Shivaya

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Lalit ji, Namaste

> > > > >

> > > > > One dont get frustrated if they fail in their sadhana, infact

> > > they get

> > > > more eager to continue with sadhana. The right way to approach

> is

> > > its

> > > > not a failure but sucess is just getting

> > > > > delayed due to bad karmas. Mantras are the best way to burn

> the

> > > past

> > > > karmas and to chant a mala is a must.

> > > > >

> > > > > Rgds

> > > > > Anand

> > > > >

> > > > > litsol mishra.lalit@ wrote:

> > > > > Dear Mr. Jayashri,

> > > > >

> > > > > A thought came, why i should not share with u, U pls. stop

> > > counting

> > > > > mantra chantings, counting mantra gives false ego and then

> > > > > frustration if u dont get desired results.

> > > > >

> > > > > leave it to the god, god counts the mantra chanted by you may

> be

> > > > > 108, 1008 or whatsoever, let him count, it's his part and ur

> > part

> > > is

> > > > > to chant the mantra. when the mantra has to awaken, it will

> be,

> > > god

> > > > > will ensure it for u.

> > > > >

> > > > > sometimes we try to become more intelligent with out limited

> > > > > intellect and that creates obstacles in our spiritual growth.

> > > > >

> > > > > So, forget about counts, forget about the time u put in for

> ur's

> > > > > sadhana, invoke the god with pure heart. purity counts.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > Lalit.

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology, " dakshinastrologer "

> > > > > dakshinastrologer@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Ms. Jayashree:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I think this topic on 108 is getting very interesting and

> > > > > > enlightening for all members. Yesterday we had a wonderful

> > > > > esoteric

> > > > > > explanation from Shri. Sushil Dikshit, and today your

> > wonderful

> > > > > > explanation of numerical symmetry of the cosmos! Wonderful.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > There definitely exists a " numerical symphony " in the

> > Universe.

> > > > > But,

> > > > > > not only 108.....as I mentioned in my earlier post, there

> are

> > > > > various

> > > > > > other numerals that are significant in occult practices.

> 108

> > is

> > > a

> > > > > > powerful and all-purpose perfect number...While we have

> > > understood

> > > > > > the glory of 108, we should not lose sight of the fact that

> > > there

> > > > > are

> > > > > > other powerful numbers also. This is just for the

> information

> > of

> > > > > the

> > > > > > list.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My apprecitation again for this wonderful response.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Blessed be.

> > > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Blessed be.

> > > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. vedic-

> > > > > > astrology@grou ps.com, " jayasartn " <jayasartn@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In cosmology, 108 has this significance - the moon is

> away

> > > from

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > earth 108 times its (moon's) diameter and the sun is away

> > > from the

> > > > > > > earth, 108 times its diameter.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Perhaps this reality of distances is applicable to

> deities

> > > too.

> > > > > > > Perhaps this has been indicated by the 108 divya desas of

> > Lord

> > > > > > Narayana.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > jayasree

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > vedic-

> astrology@grou ps.com, " dakshinastrologer "

> > > > > > > <dakshinastrologer@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Shri. Sushil:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > It is a wonderful answer you have given.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Blessed be.

> > > > > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > vedic astrology,

" sushil.dikshit "

> > > > > > > > <sushil.dikshit@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Babu,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > It is not a silly question but it is a very good

> > question.

> > > > > > > > Actually

> > > > > > > > > there are 27 Nakshatras and every Nakshtras has 4

> > Charan

> > > so

> > > > > > total

> > > > > > > > > charans are 27 x 4 = 108 Charan. Each Charan has 3

> > degree

> > > and

> > > > > > 20

> > > > > > > > > minutes so if you multiply 3 degree and 20 minutes to

> > 108

> > > it

> > > > > > comes

> > > > > > > > > out to be 360 degress i.e. one cycle (Circle). This

> > cycle

> > > > > > > > represetns

> > > > > > > > > whole brahmand because all the rashis, planets and

> > > nakshatra

> > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > between these 360 degree in 2 dimensional horoscope.

> So

> > > > > > chanting a

> > > > > > > > > Mantra completes one cycle of this brahmand. Further

> > One

> > > who

> > > > > > has

> > > > > > > > > visited Brahamand at least one time i.e. he is

> > > brahmagyani he

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > entitiled to place 108 Shri before his name.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > sushil dikshit

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, babu mon

> > > > > > <muthappan111@ >

> > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Namaste,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > It may be a silly matter for all of you.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I want to know what is the reason that some remedies

> > > > > > recomended

> > > > > > > > > for 108 times.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I dont know any thing about astrology.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I hope you may pleased to provide a reply

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > thanks,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Babu

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[Guest guest]

Dear Shri. Lalith:

 

Sun God Savita is one of the many adhishtaatru devataas - of course

he is the Main Devata - of Gaayathri. The key to the understanding of

Gaayathri mantra is in " Bhargo Devasya " . This has been interpreted

by various sages as denoting various Deities......Anyway, you can

consider it this way...Gaayathri mantra is the Invocation of Supreme

Godhead - in whatever form you wish to Deify it......By meditating on

the forms of Deities, we should ultimately reach the Formless

Meditation Stage (Nirguna Brahma Dhyaanam). If you are able to

meditate on Formless attributes even from the beginning, it is well

and good.

 

The Gaayathri yantra of 64 squares designed by Bramha Rishi

Viswaamitra seems to indicate Lord Shivaa as the Ultimate Deity to be

reached using Gaayathri chants. In fact, the modified form of

Gaayathri with the Vyaahruthis in the beginning was revealed to the

world only after Viswaamitra did penance on Lord Shiva. Before that

the usual form was from " Tasavitur.... " .

 

Gaayathri Upanishad/ Gaayathri Paddathi by Sage Viswaamitra is

eloquent in all these matters. Kindly refer to those works which will

throw much light on this.

 

Gaayathri mantra is one such mantra which reveals its meaning by

itself with regular chants. Again, there are so many debates as to

whether knowing past life events is possible.....chanting of

Gaayathri mantra 1008 times with Kumbhaka praanaayamaa for 1 year

will definitely give insights into our residual karmaas. The glory

of Gaayathri mantra is beyond me to explain with any degree of

satisfaction; its magnificience is beyond words - its meanings are so

varied and subtle.....

 

Blessed be.

Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

 

vedic astrology , " litsol " <mishra.lalit

wrote:

>

>

> Pandit Ji,

>

> pls. explain, my doubt on gayatri, u already know i have been

chanting

> gayatri mantra for may years, my upnayan samskaar (janeu) happened

when

> i was 12, since then i m doing it, i stopped it also for sometime,

but

> resumed after some time.

>

> When i contemplate on the meaning of Gayati Mantra, I find, it says

to

> invoke Savita, it means, Gyatri chanting is kind of reminder to

invoke

> Savita, so, the objective is to invoke Savita and seek his

blessings.

>

> Savita's charactersitc is also explained in Gayatri Mantra. So, Why

it's

> said to chant Gayatri as a mantra, rather it should be said to

invoke

> Savita.

>

> Now i do it this way, I will chant gayatri, will get relaxed and

will

> reach to a single minded status, and then pray to Savita, to give me

> " Dhee " and to remove the darkness within as well as my bad

sanskaars.

>

> what u do think about it , Pls. tell me, This has been in my mind

> eversince i knew meaning of Gayatri Mantra. Well, i m doing the

modifed

> gayatri mantra suggsted by you, i knew that, but i didn't know i

should

> do that.

>

> regards,

> Lalit.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

vedic astrology , Shindi <sinhazz@> wrote:

> >

> > How to do gayatri properly?

> >

> >

> >

> > dakshinastrologer dakshinastrologer@

> > vedic astrology

> > Sunday, July 29, 2007 12:08:40 AM

> > [vedic astrology] Re: Regarding counting

japams...FANTASTIC

> Postings!!! Keep it going, SIR!

> >

> > Dear Shri. Venkat:

> >

> > It is best to chant Gayathri mantra according to proper niyamaas,

and

> > then listen/ chant the other vedic mantras. This is mainly because

> > Gayathri mantra can nullify the doshas that can arise out of

> > imperfect chanting of vedic mantras. Gayathri is veda maata, and

> > only after that Japam should you go for other japams. Time spent

on

> > Gayathri japam is time well spent and even if you are unable to

> > chant/ listen to any other mantra due to paucity of time, kindly

> > never ever compromise on Gayathri chant.

> >

> > Strict observances are not required for listening to vedic

mantras if

> > you are regular in your sandhya worship. The mantras you have

> > mentioned are indeed good not only for the reciter but for the

whole

> > Cosmos!

> >

> > Blessed be.

> > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> >

> > vedic astrology, " shanvar4 " shanvar4@ .>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > OM NAMAH SHIVAYAA| OM NAMO BHAGAVATE VASUDEVAYAA! !!

> > >

> > > NAMASKAARAMs to you, Dakshinamoorthyji! !!

> > >

> > > Your awe-inspiring posting with that spiritual touch can only

come

> > > from an accomplished soul -please keep it going SIR!

> > >

> > > For the fourth time in the past 10 years, I've realised again

that

> > > our questions can best be answered by ourselves, through our own

> > > spiritual and saatwik efforts. This may not apply as much while

> > > seeking spiritual or religious guidance as it does while seeking

> > > astrological guidance, since spiritually advanced souls such as

> > > yourself can certainly guide other impoverished souls [such as

> > > myself].

> > >

> > > I have a question: given limitations of time and space in our

> > mundane

> > > world, do we have to adhere to strict pre-requisites before

> > chanting

> > > or listening to powerful stotrams like NAKSHATRA SOOKTHAMs,

UDAKA

> > > SHANTI MANTRAM, RUDRAM-CHAMAKAM, MAHANYAASAM, MANA-NARAYAANAM,

> > VISHNU

> > > STUTHI, MANTHRA-PUSHPAM, SUDARSHANA-CHAKRA MANTRAas, LAKSHMI-

> > NRISIMHA

> > > STOTRAas, LALITA SAHASRANAAMAM, and even other beeja mantraas?

> > i.e.,

> > > is it improper to listen to these BEFORE the Gayatri japam? I

have

> > > found that even listening to these ALL-POWERFUL

stotraas/mantraas

> > has

> > > an incredibly cosmic effect that only the listener would be in a

> > > position to describe.

> > >

> > > Your thoughts please -most grateful for your participation here!

> > >

> > > Namaskaarams!

> > > Venkat

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, " dakshinastrologer "

> > > <dakshinastrologer@ > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear List:

> > > >

> > > > I just want to mention one thing here.....

> > > >

> > > > Mantra shaastra works fast under the following conditions:

> > > >

> > > > 1) The person might have led a spiritual life even in previous

> > > > incarnations, and thus might start this life at a higher

level of

> > > > spiritual awareness.

> > > > 2) The person might - due to some good karmas - be born in a

> > > family

> > > > of mantra shastraic adherents. In this case, each succeeding

> > > > generation enjoys the residual energies of the previous

> > > practitioners

> > > > so much that in one particular generation, they are so

advanced

> > and

> > > > that success comes to them easily. The struggles of the

earlier

> > > > generations have led to the success of this individual (It is

> > > almost

> > > > like property passing on to the successive generations) . I am

> > > myself

> > > > a lucky one like that where there were highly successful and

> > > > contented spiritually accomplished ancestors from both my

> > mother's

> > > > line and father's line. Things came easily to me and Guides

> > sought

> > > > me out. It is all the Blessings of my ancestors.

> > > > 3) The individual is highly motivated to lead a highly

spiritual

> > > life

> > > > himself and things work out well.

> > > >

> > > > Here, we should make a distinction between " Moola mantraas "

> > > > and " Naama japams " / sthothrams. Moola mantraas of certain

> > calibere

> > > > are to be chanted with proper adherence to spiritual precepts.

> > The

> > > > other mantras can be chanted casually.

> > > >

> > > > Individual experiences will differ. So, it is best to go by

the

> > > > words of the saints.

> > > >

> > > > One pointer to whether one is a successful adept in mantra

> > shastra,

> > > > and whether one can enjoy exemptions regarding spiritual

matters

> > is

> > > > that such persons need not seek answers to their doubts (even

> > > > regarding astrology) anywhere. The answers will come to them

in

> > > > various forms. Anyone who has sought the guidance of any other

> > > human

> > > > being due to inability to understand his own fate is

definitely

> > not

> > > > an adept in spirituality, and such persons should adhere to

> > ritual

> > > > guidelines as far as possible. Divine manifestations can

happen

> > due

> > > > to the combined merit of the forefathers. ...but when that

quota

> > is

> > > > over, we may start facing the music for our disrespectful

> > approach

> > > > towards the shaastraas!

> > > >

> > > > Another curious thing I have found regarding

this.....Spirituall y

> > > > accomplished adepts for whom these guidelines and taboos are

not

> > > > mandatory, invariably follow these scrupulously either to set

a

> > > good

> > > > example to the society or just because they still want to show

> > that

> > > > deference to this wonderful subject; most of us - who don't

> > deserve

> > > > such exemptions, usually start justifying our shortcomings in

> > > > following the mantras with various philosophical explanations.

> > > >

> > > > Regarding Vaachikam, Upaamsu, and Maanasa japams, counting is

> > there

> > > > even for maanasik japams. The counting is automatically done.

> > > Most

> > > > advanced practitioners here might be aware of that.(I myself

do

> > > that

> > > > though I still do not know if I qualify to be an expert!)

Mantra

> > > > shaastra is an ocean, and one's experience can never be the

right

> > > > parameter to judge it or pass comments on it. There are

certain

> > > > japaas which qualify for continuous chants, and definitely

Moola

> > > > mantras of Deities are not to be treated so casually. (Of

> > course,

> > > in

> > > > an emergency when you seek help you will obviously call forth

> > > those,

> > > > and that is allowed according to the shaastraas).

> > > >

> > > > I humbly request all members to read original works on mantra

> > > > shaastra, or better still under a mantra shaastra

practitioner of

> > a

> > > > saatwik quality who do poojas like Navaarnava pooja or Shiva

> > Pooja

> > > or

> > > > any other saatiwik/ vaidic form of pooja. The insight you can

> > get

> > > > will really serve the purpose of this present incarnation.

> > > >

> > > > I would recommend the list members to read through original

works

> > > > like

> > > > " Parasuraama kalpam " for Sri Vidhya Pooja, Mantra Mahaarnavam

for

> > > > general mantraik principles and also for various upaasanaas,

> > Mantra

> > > > Mahoddati, Sharadaa Tilakam (for learning about some practical

> > > > siddhis), Varivasya Rahasyam, Prapanja Saara(composed by Aadi

> > > > Shankaraachaarya - an encyclopedic work on mantra shaastra),

> > > Prapanja

> > > > saara Sangraha (a concise mantra shastraic work), etc. rather

> > than

> > > > simply going by the words of us mortals (I include myself in

this

> > > > list of " fallible mortals " ).

> > > >

> > > > " Sarvaath Rishi Proktha vaakyam sreshtam " - The words of Sages

> > are

> > > > the best among all words. I request our list members to please

> > go

> > > by

> > > > those wonderful words that they have left as their legacies

for

> > us

> > > to

> > > > follow.

> > > >

> > > > Otherwise, it will be like Sage Thiromoolar saying " Blind

leading

> > > > Blind " ...... Our brains dulled by onslaught of sensual

pleasures

> > of

> > > > this modern world can never match the unsullied philosophical

> > > > grandeur of those great souls who lived harmonious lives in

> > natural

> > > > surroundings. Their words are not simple words....they are the

> > > > digest of their spiritual experiences and they are our life-

line

> > > > while following mantra shaastra practises.

> > > >

> > > > Blessed be.

> > > > Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology, " litsol "

<mishra.lalit@

> >

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Anand Ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > That's why i said, the fixed counting figure given in

several

> > > > texts may

> > > > > or may not applicable to all individuals, reason, every one

has

> > > his

> > > > > balance of krama, so, what to count ?

> > > > >

> > > > > When ur mantra touches the point it has to awaken u, it will

> > > do,it

> > > > does

> > > > > !!

> > > > >

> > > > > I dont know how much mantra chanting u have done, I have

seen

> > my

> > > > father,

> > > > > he did chanting all his life, very strictly according to

> > > shastraas,

> > > > but

> > > > > didn't get things he should get. I think he w'd have chanted

> > more

> > > > that

> > > > > 50 - 60 crores of mantras as of now.

> > > > >

> > > > > i remember during the navaratris he w'd do japa for 5-6

hours

> > in

> > > one

> > > > > sitting, he had a sphatik mala, a rudrakschh mala, all the

> > steps

> > > he

> > > > w'd

> > > > > follow right from viniyog to kschhama parathana.

> > > > >

> > > > > when he didn't get vision of god and other objectives he

had, he

> > > > > developed a kind of disinterest. I thoght what is the

problem

> > > with

> > > > him,

> > > > > same thing i saw in hundreds of the people's life.

> > > > >

> > > > > frustration comes, it's very practical, it came even in the

> > life

> > > of

> > > > > Swami Vivekananda or lord Buddha. I also went under this

period

> > of

> > > > > frustration. however, for me this was a very small period,

just

> > 4-

> > > 5

> > > > yrs.

> > > > >

> > > > > After those initial days, i never counted mantras, never

cared

> > if

> > > i

> > > > have

> > > > > or i dont have a mala with me or not.

> > > > >

> > > > > Do u know chanting mantra in mind is said to be of superior

> > type,

> > > i

> > > > > practised this, when in the bus i was travelling to my

office,

> > my

> > > > mantra

> > > > > chanting used to be carrried out.

> > > > >

> > > > > And despite i mainly chanted mantra for my mother god, so

many

> > > > dieties,

> > > > > saints and gods either in physical form or in astral form

> > appeared

> > > > > before me. I have seen almost all of them.

> > > > >

> > > > > The purpose of my writing is to share my personal

experience.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > Lalit.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology, Anand Ravi

> > > <anandravi2004@ >

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Om Namah Shivaya

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Lalit ji, Namaste

> > > > > >

> > > > > > One dont get frustrated if they fail in their sadhana,

infact

> > > > they get

> > > > > more eager to continue with sadhana. The right way to

approach

> > is

> > > > its

> > > > > not a failure but sucess is just getting

> > > > > > delayed due to bad karmas. Mantras are the best way to

burn

> > the

> > > > past

> > > > > karmas and to chant a mala is a must.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rgds

> > > > > > Anand

> > > > > >

> > > > > > litsol mishra.lalit@ wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Mr. Jayashri,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > A thought came, why i should not share with u, U pls. stop

> > > > counting

> > > > > > mantra chantings, counting mantra gives false ego and then

> > > > > > frustration if u dont get desired results.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > leave it to the god, god counts the mantra chanted by you

may

> > be

> > > > > > 108, 1008 or whatsoever, let him count, it's his part and

ur

> > > part

> > > > is

> > > > > > to chant the mantra. when the mantra has to awaken, it

will

> > be,

> > > > god

> > > > > > will ensure it for u.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > sometimes we try to become more intelligent with out

limited

> > > > > > intellect and that creates obstacles in our spiritual

growth.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So, forget about counts, forget about the time u put in

for

> > ur's

> > > > > > sadhana, invoke the god with pure heart. purity counts.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > vedic astrology@ .

com, " dakshinastrologer "

> > > > > > dakshinastrologer@ wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Ms. Jayashree:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I think this topic on 108 is getting very interesting

and

> > > > > > > enlightening for all members. Yesterday we had a

wonderful

> > > > > > esoteric

> > > > > > > explanation from Shri. Sushil Dikshit, and today your

> > > wonderful

> > > > > > > explanation of numerical symmetry of the cosmos!

Wonderful.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > There definitely exists a " numerical symphony " in the

> > > Universe.

> > > > > > But,

> > > > > > > not only 108.....as I mentioned in my earlier post,

there

> > are

> > > > > > various

> > > > > > > other numerals that are significant in occult practices.

> > 108

> > > is

> > > > a

> > > > > > > powerful and all-purpose perfect number...While we have

> > > > understood

> > > > > > > the glory of 108, we should not lose sight of the fact

that

> > > > there

> > > > > > are

> > > > > > > other powerful numbers also. This is just for the

> > information

> > > of

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > list.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > My apprecitation again for this wonderful response.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Blessed be.

> > > > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Blessed be.

> > > > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. vedic-

> > > > > > > astrology@grou ps.com, " jayasartn " <jayasartn@>

wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In cosmology, 108 has this significance - the moon is

> > away

> > > > from

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > earth 108 times its (moon's) diameter and the sun is

away

> > > > from the

> > > > > > > > earth, 108 times its diameter.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Perhaps this reality of distances is applicable to

> > deities

> > > > too.

> > > > > > > > Perhaps this has been indicated by the 108 divya

desas of

> > > Lord

> > > > > > > Narayana.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > jayasree

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > vedic-

> > astrology@grou ps.com, " dakshinastrologer "

> > > > > > > > <dakshinastrologer@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Shri. Sushil:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > It is a wonderful answer you have given.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Blessed be.

> > > > > > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > vedic astrology,

> " sushil.dikshit "

> > > > > > > > > <sushil.dikshit@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Babu,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > It is not a silly question but it is a very good

> > > question.

> > > > > > > > > Actually

> > > > > > > > > > there are 27 Nakshatras and every Nakshtras has 4

> > > Charan

> > > > so

> > > > > > > total

> > > > > > > > > > charans are 27 x 4 = 108 Charan. Each Charan has 3

> > > degree

> > > > and

> > > > > > > 20

> > > > > > > > > > minutes so if you multiply 3 degree and 20

minutes to

> > > 108

> > > > it

> > > > > > > comes

> > > > > > > > > > out to be 360 degress i.e. one cycle (Circle).

This

> > > cycle

> > > > > > > > > represetns

> > > > > > > > > > whole brahmand because all the rashis, planets and

> > > > nakshatra

> > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > between these 360 degree in 2 dimensional

horoscope.

> > So

> > > > > > > chanting a

> > > > > > > > > > Mantra completes one cycle of this brahmand.

Further

> > > One

> > > > who

> > > > > > > has

> > > > > > > > > > visited Brahamand at least one time i.e. he is

> > > > brahmagyani he

> > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > entitiled to place 108 Shri before his name.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > sushil dikshit

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, babu mon

> > > > > > > <muthappan111@ >

> > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Namaste,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > It may be a silly matter for all of you.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I want to know what is the reason that some

remedies

> > > > > > > recomended

> > > > > > > > > > for 108 times.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I dont know any thing about astrology.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I hope you may pleased to provide a reply

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > thanks,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Babu

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

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> > > from

> > > > > > > someone

> > > > > > > > > > who knows.

> > > > > > > > > > > Answers - Check it out.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

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[Guest guest]

Resp. Panditji,

 

I have seen Gayatri Yantra, but i didn't knew its related to Lord

Shiva.

 

Thanx for letting me know this, Why Shiva, becoz, shiva represents

nirakaar brahm too, what's the philosphy ?

 

regards,

Lalit.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology , " dakshinastrologer "

<dakshinastrologer wrote:

>

> Dear Shri. Lalith:

>

> Sun God Savita is one of the many adhishtaatru devataas - of course

> he is the Main Devata - of Gaayathri. The key to the understanding of

> Gaayathri mantra is in " Bhargo Devasya " . This has been interpreted

> by various sages as denoting various Deities......Anyway, you can

> consider it this way...Gaayathri mantra is the Invocation of Supreme

> Godhead - in whatever form you wish to Deify it......By meditating on

> the forms of Deities, we should ultimately reach the Formless

> Meditation Stage (Nirguna Brahma Dhyaanam). If you are able to

> meditate on Formless attributes even from the beginning, it is well

> and good.

>

> The Gaayathri yantra of 64 squares designed by Bramha Rishi

> Viswaamitra seems to indicate Lord Shivaa as the Ultimate Deity to be

> reached using Gaayathri chants. In fact, the modified form of

> Gaayathri with the Vyaahruthis in the beginning was revealed to the

> world only after Viswaamitra did penance on Lord Shiva. Before that

> the usual form was from " Tasavitur.... " .

>

> Gaayathri Upanishad/ Gaayathri Paddathi by Sage Viswaamitra is

> eloquent in all these matters. Kindly refer to those works which will

> throw much light on this.

>

> Gaayathri mantra is one such mantra which reveals its meaning by

> itself with regular chants. Again, there are so many debates as to

> whether knowing past life events is possible.....chanting of

> Gaayathri mantra 1008 times with Kumbhaka praanaayamaa for 1 year

> will definitely give insights into our residual karmaas. The glory

> of Gaayathri mantra is beyond me to explain with any degree of

> satisfaction; its magnificience is beyond words - its meanings are so

> varied and subtle.....

>

> Blessed be.

> Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

>

> vedic astrology , " litsol " mishra.lalit@

> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Pandit Ji,

> >

> > pls. explain, my doubt on gayatri, u already know i have been

> chanting

> > gayatri mantra for may years, my upnayan samskaar (janeu) happened

> when

> > i was 12, since then i m doing it, i stopped it also for sometime,

> but

> > resumed after some time.

> >

> > When i contemplate on the meaning of Gayati Mantra, I find, it says

> to

> > invoke Savita, it means, Gyatri chanting is kind of reminder to

> invoke

> > Savita, so, the objective is to invoke Savita and seek his

> blessings.

> >

> > Savita's charactersitc is also explained in Gayatri Mantra. So, Why

> it's

> > said to chant Gayatri as a mantra, rather it should be said to

> invoke

> > Savita.

> >

> > Now i do it this way, I will chant gayatri, will get relaxed and

> will

> > reach to a single minded status, and then pray to Savita, to give me

> > " Dhee " and to remove the darkness within as well as my bad

> sanskaars.

> >

> > what u do think about it , Pls. tell me, This has been in my mind

> > eversince i knew meaning of Gayatri Mantra. Well, i m doing the

> modifed

> > gayatri mantra suggsted by you, i knew that, but i didn't know i

> should

> > do that.

> >

> > regards,

> > Lalit.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology , Shindi <sinhazz@> wrote:

> > >

> > > How to do gayatri properly?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > dakshinastrologer dakshinastrologer@

> > > vedic astrology

> > > Sunday, July 29, 2007 12:08:40 AM

> > > [vedic astrology] Re: Regarding counting

> japams...FANTASTIC

> > Postings!!! Keep it going, SIR!

> > >

> > > Dear Shri. Venkat:

> > >

> > > It is best to chant Gayathri mantra according to proper niyamaas,

> and

> > > then listen/ chant the other vedic mantras. This is mainly because

> > > Gayathri mantra can nullify the doshas that can arise out of

> > > imperfect chanting of vedic mantras. Gayathri is veda maata, and

> > > only after that Japam should you go for other japams. Time spent

> on

> > > Gayathri japam is time well spent and even if you are unable to

> > > chant/ listen to any other mantra due to paucity of time, kindly

> > > never ever compromise on Gayathri chant.

> > >

> > > Strict observances are not required for listening to vedic

> mantras if

> > > you are regular in your sandhya worship. The mantras you have

> > > mentioned are indeed good not only for the reciter but for the

> whole

> > > Cosmos!

> > >

> > > Blessed be.

> > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, " shanvar4 " shanvar4@ .>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > OM NAMAH SHIVAYAA| OM NAMO BHAGAVATE VASUDEVAYAA! !!

> > > >

> > > > NAMASKAARAMs to you, Dakshinamoorthyji! !!

> > > >

> > > > Your awe-inspiring posting with that spiritual touch can only

> come

> > > > from an accomplished soul -please keep it going SIR!

> > > >

> > > > For the fourth time in the past 10 years, I've realised again

> that

> > > > our questions can best be answered by ourselves, through our own

> > > > spiritual and saatwik efforts. This may not apply as much while

> > > > seeking spiritual or religious guidance as it does while seeking

> > > > astrological guidance, since spiritually advanced souls such as

> > > > yourself can certainly guide other impoverished souls [such as

> > > > myself].

> > > >

> > > > I have a question: given limitations of time and space in our

> > > mundane

> > > > world, do we have to adhere to strict pre-requisites before

> > > chanting

> > > > or listening to powerful stotrams like NAKSHATRA SOOKTHAMs,

> UDAKA

> > > > SHANTI MANTRAM, RUDRAM-CHAMAKAM, MAHANYAASAM, MANA-NARAYAANAM,

> > > VISHNU

> > > > STUTHI, MANTHRA-PUSHPAM, SUDARSHANA-CHAKRA MANTRAas, LAKSHMI-

> > > NRISIMHA

> > > > STOTRAas, LALITA SAHASRANAAMAM, and even other beeja mantraas?

> > > i.e.,

> > > > is it improper to listen to these BEFORE the Gayatri japam? I

> have

> > > > found that even listening to these ALL-POWERFUL

> stotraas/mantraas

> > > has

> > > > an incredibly cosmic effect that only the listener would be in a

> > > > position to describe.

> > > >

> > > > Your thoughts please -most grateful for your participation here!

> > > >

> > > > Namaskaarams!

> > > > Venkat

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology, " dakshinastrologer "

> > > > <dakshinastrologer@ > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear List:

> > > > >

> > > > > I just want to mention one thing here.....

> > > > >

> > > > > Mantra shaastra works fast under the following conditions:

> > > > >

> > > > > 1) The person might have led a spiritual life even in previous

> > > > > incarnations, and thus might start this life at a higher

> level of

> > > > > spiritual awareness.

> > > > > 2) The person might - due to some good karmas - be born in a

> > > > family

> > > > > of mantra shastraic adherents. In this case, each succeeding

> > > > > generation enjoys the residual energies of the previous

> > > > practitioners

> > > > > so much that in one particular generation, they are so

> advanced

> > > and

> > > > > that success comes to them easily. The struggles of the

> earlier

> > > > > generations have led to the success of this individual (It is

> > > > almost

> > > > > like property passing on to the successive generations) . I am

> > > > myself

> > > > > a lucky one like that where there were highly successful and

> > > > > contented spiritually accomplished ancestors from both my

> > > mother's

> > > > > line and father's line. Things came easily to me and Guides

> > > sought

> > > > > me out. It is all the Blessings of my ancestors.

> > > > > 3) The individual is highly motivated to lead a highly

> spiritual

> > > > life

> > > > > himself and things work out well.

> > > > >

> > > > > Here, we should make a distinction between " Moola mantraas "

> > > > > and " Naama japams " / sthothrams. Moola mantraas of certain

> > > calibere

> > > > > are to be chanted with proper adherence to spiritual precepts.

> > > The

> > > > > other mantras can be chanted casually.

> > > > >

> > > > > Individual experiences will differ. So, it is best to go by

> the

> > > > > words of the saints.

> > > > >

> > > > > One pointer to whether one is a successful adept in mantra

> > > shastra,

> > > > > and whether one can enjoy exemptions regarding spiritual

> matters

> > > is

> > > > > that such persons need not seek answers to their doubts (even

> > > > > regarding astrology) anywhere. The answers will come to them

> in

> > > > > various forms. Anyone who has sought the guidance of any other

> > > > human

> > > > > being due to inability to understand his own fate is

> definitely

> > > not

> > > > > an adept in spirituality, and such persons should adhere to

> > > ritual

> > > > > guidelines as far as possible. Divine manifestations can

> happen

> > > due

> > > > > to the combined merit of the forefathers. ...but when that

> quota

> > > is

> > > > > over, we may start facing the music for our disrespectful

> > > approach

> > > > > towards the shaastraas!

> > > > >

> > > > > Another curious thing I have found regarding

> this.....Spirituall y

> > > > > accomplished adepts for whom these guidelines and taboos are

> not

> > > > > mandatory, invariably follow these scrupulously either to set

> a

> > > > good

> > > > > example to the society or just because they still want to show

> > > that

> > > > > deference to this wonderful subject; most of us - who don't

> > > deserve

> > > > > such exemptions, usually start justifying our shortcomings in

> > > > > following the mantras with various philosophical explanations.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regarding Vaachikam, Upaamsu, and Maanasa japams, counting is

> > > there

> > > > > even for maanasik japams. The counting is automatically done.

> > > > Most

> > > > > advanced practitioners here might be aware of that.(I myself

> do

> > > > that

> > > > > though I still do not know if I qualify to be an expert!)

> Mantra

> > > > > shaastra is an ocean, and one's experience can never be the

> right

> > > > > parameter to judge it or pass comments on it. There are

> certain

> > > > > japaas which qualify for continuous chants, and definitely

> Moola

> > > > > mantras of Deities are not to be treated so casually. (Of

> > > course,

> > > > in

> > > > > an emergency when you seek help you will obviously call forth

> > > > those,

> > > > > and that is allowed according to the shaastraas).

> > > > >

> > > > > I humbly request all members to read original works on mantra

> > > > > shaastra, or better still under a mantra shaastra

> practitioner of

> > > a

> > > > > saatwik quality who do poojas like Navaarnava pooja or Shiva

> > > Pooja

> > > > or

> > > > > any other saatiwik/ vaidic form of pooja. The insight you can

> > > get

> > > > > will really serve the purpose of this present incarnation.

> > > > >

> > > > > I would recommend the list members to read through original

> works

> > > > > like

> > > > > " Parasuraama kalpam " for Sri Vidhya Pooja, Mantra Mahaarnavam

> for

> > > > > general mantraik principles and also for various upaasanaas,

> > > Mantra

> > > > > Mahoddati, Sharadaa Tilakam (for learning about some practical

> > > > > siddhis), Varivasya Rahasyam, Prapanja Saara(composed by Aadi

> > > > > Shankaraachaarya - an encyclopedic work on mantra shaastra),

> > > > Prapanja

> > > > > saara Sangraha (a concise mantra shastraic work), etc. rather

> > > than

> > > > > simply going by the words of us mortals (I include myself in

> this

> > > > > list of " fallible mortals " ).

> > > > >

> > > > > " Sarvaath Rishi Proktha vaakyam sreshtam " - The words of Sages

> > > are

> > > > > the best among all words. I request our list members to please

> > > go

> > > > by

> > > > > those wonderful words that they have left as their legacies

> for

> > > us

> > > > to

> > > > > follow.

> > > > >

> > > > > Otherwise, it will be like Sage Thiromoolar saying " Blind

> leading

> > > > > Blind " ...... Our brains dulled by onslaught of sensual

> pleasures

> > > of

> > > > > this modern world can never match the unsullied philosophical

> > > > > grandeur of those great souls who lived harmonious lives in

> > > natural

> > > > > surroundings. Their words are not simple words....they are the

> > > > > digest of their spiritual experiences and they are our life-

> line

> > > > > while following mantra shaastra practises.

> > > > >

> > > > > Blessed be.

> > > > > Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology, " litsol "

> <mishra.lalit@

> > >

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Anand Ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > That's why i said, the fixed counting figure given in

> several

> > > > > texts may

> > > > > > or may not applicable to all individuals, reason, every one

> has

> > > > his

> > > > > > balance of krama, so, what to count ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > When ur mantra touches the point it has to awaken u, it will

> > > > do,it

> > > > > does

> > > > > > !!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I dont know how much mantra chanting u have done, I have

> seen

> > > my

> > > > > father,

> > > > > > he did chanting all his life, very strictly according to

> > > > shastraas,

> > > > > but

> > > > > > didn't get things he should get. I think he w'd have chanted

> > > more

> > > > > that

> > > > > > 50 - 60 crores of mantras as of now.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > i remember during the navaratris he w'd do japa for 5-6

> hours

> > > in

> > > > one

> > > > > > sitting, he had a sphatik mala, a rudrakschh mala, all the

> > > steps

> > > > he

> > > > > w'd

> > > > > > follow right from viniyog to kschhama parathana.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > when he didn't get vision of god and other objectives he

> had, he

> > > > > > developed a kind of disinterest. I thoght what is the

> problem

> > > > with

> > > > > him,

> > > > > > same thing i saw in hundreds of the people's life.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > frustration comes, it's very practical, it came even in the

> > > life

> > > > of

> > > > > > Swami Vivekananda or lord Buddha. I also went under this

> period

> > > of

> > > > > > frustration. however, for me this was a very small period,

> just

> > > 4-

> > > > 5

> > > > > yrs.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > After those initial days, i never counted mantras, never

> cared

> > > if

> > > > i

> > > > > have

> > > > > > or i dont have a mala with me or not.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Do u know chanting mantra in mind is said to be of superior

> > > type,

> > > > i

> > > > > > practised this, when in the bus i was travelling to my

> office,

> > > my

> > > > > mantra

> > > > > > chanting used to be carrried out.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > And despite i mainly chanted mantra for my mother god, so

> many

> > > > > dieties,

> > > > > > saints and gods either in physical form or in astral form

> > > appeared

> > > > > > before me. I have seen almost all of them.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The purpose of my writing is to share my personal

> experience.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > vedic astrology, Anand Ravi

> > > > <anandravi2004@ >

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Om Namah Shivaya

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Lalit ji, Namaste

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > One dont get frustrated if they fail in their sadhana,

> infact

> > > > > they get

> > > > > > more eager to continue with sadhana. The right way to

> approach

> > > is

> > > > > its

> > > > > > not a failure but sucess is just getting

> > > > > > > delayed due to bad karmas. Mantras are the best way to

> burn

> > > the

> > > > > past

> > > > > > karmas and to chant a mala is a must.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rgds

> > > > > > > Anand

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > litsol mishra.lalit@ wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Mr. Jayashri,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > A thought came, why i should not share with u, U pls. stop

> > > > > counting

> > > > > > > mantra chantings, counting mantra gives false ego and then

> > > > > > > frustration if u dont get desired results.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > leave it to the god, god counts the mantra chanted by you

> may

> > > be

> > > > > > > 108, 1008 or whatsoever, let him count, it's his part and

> ur

> > > > part

> > > > > is

> > > > > > > to chant the mantra. when the mantra has to awaken, it

> will

> > > be,

> > > > > god

> > > > > > > will ensure it for u.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > sometimes we try to become more intelligent with out

> limited

> > > > > > > intellect and that creates obstacles in our spiritual

> growth.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > So, forget about counts, forget about the time u put in

> for

> > > ur's

> > > > > > > sadhana, invoke the god with pure heart. purity counts.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > vedic astrology@ .

> com, " dakshinastrologer "

> > > > > > > dakshinastrologer@ wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Ms. Jayashree:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I think this topic on 108 is getting very interesting

> and

> > > > > > > > enlightening for all members. Yesterday we had a

> wonderful

> > > > > > > esoteric

> > > > > > > > explanation from Shri. Sushil Dikshit, and today your

> > > > wonderful

> > > > > > > > explanation of numerical symmetry of the cosmos!

> Wonderful.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > There definitely exists a " numerical symphony " in the

> > > > Universe.

> > > > > > > But,

> > > > > > > > not only 108.....as I mentioned in my earlier post,

> there

> > > are

> > > > > > > various

> > > > > > > > other numerals that are significant in occult practices.

> > > 108

> > > > is

> > > > > a

> > > > > > > > powerful and all-purpose perfect number...While we have

> > > > > understood

> > > > > > > > the glory of 108, we should not lose sight of the fact

> that

> > > > > there

> > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > other powerful numbers also. This is just for the

> > > information

> > > > of

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > list.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > My apprecitation again for this wonderful response.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Blessed be.

> > > > > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Blessed be.

> > > > > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. vedic-

> > > > > > > > astrology@grou ps.com, " jayasartn " <jayasartn@>

> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > In cosmology, 108 has this significance - the moon is

> > > away

> > > > > from

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > earth 108 times its (moon's) diameter and the sun is

> away

> > > > > from the

> > > > > > > > > earth, 108 times its diameter.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Perhaps this reality of distances is applicable to

> > > deities

> > > > > too.

> > > > > > > > > Perhaps this has been indicated by the 108 divya

> desas of

> > > > Lord

> > > > > > > > Narayana.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > jayasree

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > vedic-

> > > astrology@grou ps.com, " dakshinastrologer "

> > > > > > > > > <dakshinastrologer@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri. Sushil:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > It is a wonderful answer you have given.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Blessed be.

> > > > > > > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology,

> > " sushil.dikshit "

> > > > > > > > > > <sushil.dikshit@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Babu,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > It is not a silly question but it is a very good

> > > > question.

> > > > > > > > > > Actually

> > > > > > > > > > > there are 27 Nakshatras and every Nakshtras has 4

> > > > Charan

> > > > > so

> > > > > > > > total

> > > > > > > > > > > charans are 27 x 4 = 108 Charan. Each Charan has 3

> > > > degree

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > > 20

> > > > > > > > > > > minutes so if you multiply 3 degree and 20

> minutes to

> > > > 108

> > > > > it

> > > > > > > > comes

> > > > > > > > > > > out to be 360 degress i.e. one cycle (Circle).

> This

> > > > cycle

> > > > > > > > > > represetns

> > > > > > > > > > > whole brahmand because all the rashis, planets and

> > > > > nakshatra

> > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > > between these 360 degree in 2 dimensional

> horoscope.

> > > So

> > > > > > > > chanting a

> > > > > > > > > > > Mantra completes one cycle of this brahmand.

> Further

> > > > One

> > > > > who

> > > > > > > > has

> > > > > > > > > > > visited Brahamand at least one time i.e. he is

> > > > > brahmagyani he

> > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > entitiled to place 108 Shri before his name.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > sushil dikshit

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, babu mon

> > > > > > > > <muthappan111@ >

> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > It may be a silly matter for all of you.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > I want to know what is the reason that some

> remedies

> > > > > > > > recomended

> > > > > > > > > > > for 108 times.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > I dont know any thing about astrology.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > I hope you may pleased to provide a reply

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > thanks,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Babu

> > > > > > > > > > > >

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