Guest guest Posted July 22, 2007 Report Share Posted July 22, 2007 || Hare Rama Krushna || Namaskaar Jim, This is my understanding - Pravrajya yoga might not necessarily give spirituality. However, it will give hard times in attaining material prosperity. For understanding spirituality in a person, look at Vistiji's papers on Vimsamsa, found here - http://www.srigaruda.com/2006/04/01/upasanamsa-d-20/langswitch_lang/wp May Sri Vishnu bless us all, Reema. sohamsa , " vedicastro_mind " <vedicastro_mind wrote: > > Hi Folks, > > I would appreciate if anybody gives me more on information on > " Pravrajya yoga " . > > My clues are, That yoga has some connection with spirituality.Its not > good materially. > > Would like to hear more on it. > > Cheers, > -- > Jim. > P.S:Anybody wants to get pdf file on Vivekananda's work and Chanakkya > niti please write to me privately ,I will send it to you, its very > good work , do read ateast once. > I am myself really impressed by Chanakya, a great politician and very > brainy person. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2007 Report Share Posted July 22, 2007 *hraum namah adityaya* Dear Jim, Yes, pravraja yoga is present in charts of people who are (a) spiritual or (b) far from society/loners/outcasters. This kind of people often are against mainstream and ideas of society (Moon). Therefore any hurt from society (symbolised by malefic touching Moon) can easily turn up to upward (urdhva-ananta) direction. Sani aspecting Moon cause mind prone to accept that reversal of ideas (from materialism (bhogi or rogi) to spiritualism (muktimarg). If these planets are in dual signs then spirituality can come very early - I hope You know why. If these planets are in dual navamsas then this can be delayed as Navamsa avastha come later (Vaidyanath Dixita). So if these person do the work of spiritual mission then also Drekkana is involved and Moon is in Saturnian Drekkana (Parasara), otherwise Moon can be also in Rasi of Sani or Mangal in D9. Moon is very important in Drekkana and can show fame from Karma-Viveka, while in D20 will show which anga/part of spirituality will be connected to the native through prestige, name and recognition. Srila Prabhupada is known from Bhakti (Moon in Mantra bhava in Upasanaamsa). Pravraja Yoga can be like a lion and can delay many Raja Yogas (this allegory comes from sastra). Next Yoga is when four planets are in one Rasi. This must be in Kendra to Rasi Lagna - otherwise it will be later (kona) or in past life. The tendency will be there (if not in kendra) but native will be waiting.. Dosha which obstructs following path of Sannyasa will be seen from house placement. 2H - Kama, 3H - krodha, 6H - Lobha, 8H - Moha, 11H - Mada , 12H - Matsarya. If planet is combust then it turns to Raja Yoga (often in dasa of planet) and native again turn the face into opposite direction. Quite similar to Yoga with Rahu/Ketu in AL and Dasa Rasi coming to Dwara Rasi. If no planet is combust then remedy for this is Abhishek of strongest graha. This Yoga is worst in Arudhapada and if UL is there, native dont like official/formal site of relationships. If its combust and dushtana then its good for the ripu (ripu is finished) but very bad for native as enemy gets Raja Yoga - similar to well-placed malefic in 3/6 from A6. Shad ripu vs Graha: Kama-Venus, Krodha-Mars, Lobha- Buddha, Moha-Rahu, Madha-Sani, Matsary-Ketu (there is also 2nd classification) There are also Tapaswi, Fake-Tapaswi Yogas..which demands cutting (ke) of amor (ve). This should be seen especially in Navamsa. Of course there is more to that... Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com vedicastro_mind napisa?(a): > > Hi Folks, > > I would appreciate if anybody gives me more on information on > " Pravrajya yoga " . > > My clues are, That yoga has some connection with spirituality.Its not > good materially. > > Would like to hear more on it. > > Cheers, > -- > Jim. > P.S:Anybody wants to get pdf file on Vivekananda's work and Chanakkya > niti please write to me privately ,I will send it to you, its very > good work , do read ateast once. > I am myself really impressed by Chanakya, a great politician and very > brainy person. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2007 Report Share Posted July 22, 2007 hraum namah adityaya Dear Jim, Yes, pravraja yoga is present in charts of people who are (a) spiritual or (b) far from society/loners/outcasters. This kind of people often are against mainstream and ideas of society (Moon). Therefore any hurt from society (symbolised by malefic touching Moon) can easily turn up to upward (urdhva-ananta) direction. Sani aspecting Moon cause mind prone to accept that reversal of ideas (from materialism (bhogi or rogi) to spiritualism (muktimarg). If these planets are in dual signs then spirituality can come very early - I hope You know why. If these planets are in dual navamsas then this can be delayed as Navamsa avastha come later (Vaidyanath Dixita). So if these person do the work of spiritual mission then also Drekkana is involved and Moon is in Saturnian Drekkana (Parasara), otherwise Moon can be also in Rasi of Sani or Mangal in D9. Moon is very important in Drekkana and can show fame from Karma-Viveka, while in D20 will show which anga/part of spirituality will be connected to the native through prestige, name and recognition. Srila Prabhupada is known from Bhakti (Moon in Mantra bhava in Upasanaamsa). Pravraja Yoga can be like a lion and can delay many Raja Yogas (this allegory comes from sastra). Next Yoga is when four planets are in one Rasi. This must be in Kendra to Rasi Lagna - otherwise it will be later (kona) or in past life. The tendency will be there (if not in kendra) but native will be waiting.. Dosha which obstructs following path of Sannyasa will be seen from house placement. 2H - Kama, 3H - krodha, 6H - Lobha, 8H - Moha, 11H - Mada , 12H - Matsarya. If planet is combust then it turns to Raja Yoga (often in dasa of planet) and native again turn the face into opposite direction. Quite similar to Yoga with Rahu/Ketu in AL and Dasa Rasi coming to Dwara Rasi. If no planet is combust then remedy for this is Abhishek of strongest graha. This Yoga is worst in Arudhapada and if UL is there, native dont like official/formal site of relationships. If its combust and dushtana then its good for the ripu (ripu is finished) but very bad for native as enemy gets Raja Yoga - similar to well-placed malefic in 3/6 from A6. Shad ripu vs Graha: Kama-Venus, Krodha-Mars, Lobha- Buddha, Moha-Rahu, Madha-Sani, Matsary-Ketu (there is also 2nd classification) There are also Tapaswi, Fake-Tapaswi Yogas..which demands cutting (ke) of amor (ve). This should be seen especially in Navamsa. Of course there is more to that... Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com vedicastro_mind napisał(a): Hi Folks, I would appreciate if anybody gives me more on information on "Pravrajya yoga". My clues are, That yoga has some connection with spirituality.Its not good materially. Would like to hear more on it. Cheers, -- Jim. P.S:Anybody wants to get pdf file on Vivekananda's work and Chanakkya niti please write to me privately ,I will send it to you, its very good work , do read ateast once. I am myself really impressed by Chanakya, a great politician and very brainy person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 || Om Namo Naryanaya || Dear Guruji, Namaskar, Very very interesting post, good food. Kind Regards, Jim. Sisya sohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > Dear Jim, > > Yes, pravraja yoga is present in charts of people who are (a) spiritual > or (b) far from society/loners/outcasters. This kind of people often are > against mainstream and ideas of society (Moon). Therefore any hurt from > society (symbolised by malefic touching Moon) can easily turn up to > upward (urdhva-ananta) direction. Sani aspecting Moon cause mind prone > to accept that reversal of ideas (from materialism (bhogi or rogi) to > spiritualism (muktimarg). If these planets are in dual signs then > spirituality can come very early - I hope You know why. If these planets > are in dual navamsas then this can be delayed as Navamsa avastha come > later (Vaidyanath Dixita). So if these person do the work of spiritual > mission then also Drekkana is involved and Moon is in Saturnian Drekkana > (Parasara), otherwise Moon can be also in Rasi of Sani or Mangal in D9. > Moon is very important in Drekkana and can show fame from Karma-Viveka, > while in D20 will show which anga/part of spirituality will be connected > to the native through prestige, name and recognition. Srila Prabhupada > is known from Bhakti (Moon in Mantra bhava in Upasanaamsa). Pravraja > Yoga can be like a lion and can delay many Raja Yogas (this allegory > comes from sastra). > Next Yoga is when four planets are in one Rasi. This must be in Kendra > to Rasi Lagna - otherwise it will be later (kona) or in past life. The > tendency will be there (if not in kendra) but native will be waiting.. > Dosha which obstructs following path of Sannyasa will be seen from house > placement. 2H - Kama, 3H - krodha, 6H - Lobha, 8H - Moha, 11H - Mada , > 12H - Matsarya. If planet is combust then it turns to Raja Yoga (often > in dasa of planet) and native again turn the face into opposite > direction. Quite similar to Yoga with Rahu/Ketu in AL and Dasa Rasi > coming to Dwara Rasi. If no planet is combust then remedy for this is > Abhishek of strongest graha. This Yoga is worst in Arudhapada and if UL > is there, native dont like official/formal site of relationships. If its > combust and dushtana then its good for the ripu (ripu is finished) but > very bad for native as enemy gets Raja Yoga - similar to well-placed > malefic in 3/6 from A6. > > Shad ripu vs Graha: > Kama-Venus, Krodha-Mars, Lobha- Buddha, Moha-Rahu, Madha-Sani, > Matsary-Ketu (there is also 2nd classification) > > There are also Tapaswi, Fake-Tapaswi Yogas..which demands cutting (ke) > of amor (ve). This should be seen especially in Navamsa. > > Of course there is more to that... > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > email: rafal > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com > > > vedicastro_mind napisa?(a): > > > > Hi Folks, > > > > I would appreciate if anybody gives me more on information on > > " Pravrajya yoga " . > > > > My clues are, That yoga has some connection with spirituality.Its not > > good materially. > > > > Would like to hear more on it. > > > > Cheers, > > -- > > Jim. > > P.S:Anybody wants to get pdf file on Vivekananda's work and Chanakkya > > niti please write to me privately ,I will send it to you, its very > > good work , do read ateast once. > > I am myself really impressed by Chanakya, a great politician and very > > brainy person. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 || Om Namo Narayanaya || Dear Reema, Namaskar, You are right especially wrt hard times materially. But Gurujis article is exactly what is manifestation of Pravrajya yoga and more detailed explanation of this yoga. Guruji say correctly it can delay other Raja-yogas, spiritual,far from society/loners/outcasters. Kind Regards, Jim. sohamsa , " reema_sriganesh " <reema_sriganesh wrote: > > || Hare Rama Krushna || > > Namaskaar Jim, > > This is my understanding - Pravrajya yoga might not necessarily give > spirituality. However, it will give hard times in attaining material > prosperity. For understanding spirituality in a person, look at > Vistiji's papers on Vimsamsa, found here - > http://www.srigaruda.com/2006/04/01/upasanamsa-d-20/langswitch_lang/wp > > May Sri Vishnu bless us all, > Reema. > > sohamsa , " vedicastro_mind " > <vedicastro_mind@> wrote: > > > > Hi Folks, > > > > I would appreciate if anybody gives me more on information on > > " Pravrajya yoga " . > > > > My clues are, That yoga has some connection with spirituality.Its not > > good materially. > > > > Would like to hear more on it. > > > > Cheers, > > -- > > Jim. > > P.S:Anybody wants to get pdf file on Vivekananda's work and Chanakkya > > niti please write to me privately ,I will send it to you, its very > > good work , do read ateast once. > > I am myself really impressed by Chanakya, a great politician and very > > brainy person. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 || Om Namo Narayanaya || Dear Guruji, Namaskar, Very sweet, I love this article. Kind Regards, Jim. Sisya. , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > Dear Jim, > > Yes, pravraja yoga is present in charts of people who are (a) spiritual > or (b) far from society/loners/outcasters. This kind of people often are > against mainstream and ideas of society (Moon). Therefore any hurt from > society (symbolised by malefic touching Moon) can easily turn up to > upward (urdhva-ananta) direction. Sani aspecting Moon cause mind prone > to accept that reversal of ideas (from materialism (bhogi or rogi) to > spiritualism (muktimarg). If these planets are in dual signs then > spirituality can come very early - I hope You know why. If these planets > are in dual navamsas then this can be delayed as Navamsa avastha come > later (Vaidyanath Dixita). So if these person do the work of spiritual > mission then also Drekkana is involved and Moon is in Saturnian Drekkana > (Parasara), otherwise Moon can be also in Rasi of Sani or Mangal in D9. > Moon is very important in Drekkana and can show fame from Karma-Viveka, > while in D20 will show which anga/part of spirituality will be connected > to the native through prestige, name and recognition. Srila Prabhupada > is known from Bhakti (Moon in Mantra bhava in Upasanaamsa). Pravraja > Yoga can be like a lion and can delay many Raja Yogas (this allegory > comes from sastra). > Next Yoga is when four planets are in one Rasi. This must be in Kendra > to Rasi Lagna - otherwise it will be later (kona) or in past life. The > tendency will be there (if not in kendra) but native will be waiting.. > Dosha which obstructs following path of Sannyasa will be seen from house > placement. 2H - Kama, 3H - krodha, 6H - Lobha, 8H - Moha, 11H - Mada , > 12H - Matsarya. If planet is combust then it turns to Raja Yoga (often > in dasa of planet) and native again turn the face into opposite > direction. Quite similar to Yoga with Rahu/Ketu in AL and Dasa Rasi > coming to Dwara Rasi. If no planet is combust then remedy for this is > Abhishek of strongest graha. This Yoga is worst in Arudhapada and if UL > is there, native dont like official/formal site of relationships. If its > combust and dushtana then its good for the ripu (ripu is finished) but > very bad for native as enemy gets Raja Yoga - similar to well-placed > malefic in 3/6 from A6. > > Shad ripu vs Graha: > Kama-Venus, Krodha-Mars, Lobha- Buddha, Moha-Rahu, Madha-Sani, > Matsary-Ketu (there is also 2nd classification) > > There are also Tapaswi, Fake-Tapaswi Yogas..which demands cutting (ke) > of amor (ve). This should be seen especially in Navamsa. > > Of course there is more to that... > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > email: rafal > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com > > > vedicastro_mind napisa?(a): > > > > Hi Folks, > > > > I would appreciate if anybody gives me more on information on > > " Pravrajya yoga " . > > > > My clues are, That yoga has some connection with spirituality.Its not > > good materially. > > > > Would like to hear more on it. > > > > Cheers, > > -- > > Jim. > > P.S:Anybody wants to get pdf file on Vivekananda's work and Chanakkya > > niti please write to me privately ,I will send it to you, its very > > good work , do read ateast once. > > I am myself really impressed by Chanakya, a great politician and very > > brainy person. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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