A question for all savants (compatibility/compatability again)

[Guest guest]

When a client approaches a divinator (astrologer for instance)

Should the astrologer first run a compatibility analysis between the

nativity and the astrologer's chart before accepting the client?

 

As a regular practice?

 

Any clues as to what the compatibility must include?

 

Has anyone looked into this earlier and what were their findings, if

they would care to share?

 

Communication may be the key, again? Or is it??

[Guest guest]

Hare ramakrishna,

 

dear jyothish volunteers.

 

Generaly most astrologers can see from udaya lagna it

self ,the intention of queriest and be prepare to face him .Some will

come to test astrologers ,some will tell lies ,some r just lazy and not

looking for advise just to satisfy --some one may come .

 

There are several other methods also --even the touch (known sparsha

lagna) ,first word he speak (akshar lagna) and even his body laungage

is mentioned in some good prashna books or good gurus will teach u

--like this many --each astrologers who trained under guru and has good

spiritual power has diffrnt methods ,and even nimittas and omens also

has many story to tell u.

 

Some of the methods we cannot use in this age of internet jyothish ,

 

regrds sunil nair .

 

om shreem mahalxami namah.

 

pt.sunilnair <pt.sunilnair

 

 

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology , " Jyotish Volunteers "

<primusjyotishi wrote:

>

> When a client approaches a divinator (astrologer for instance)

> Should the astrologer first run a compatibility analysis between the

> nativity and the astrologer's chart before accepting the client?

>

> As a regular practice?

>

> Any clues as to what the compatibility must include?

>

> Has anyone looked into this earlier and what were their findings, if

> they would care to share?

>

> Communication may be the key, again? Or is it??

>

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Thanks for sharing, Sir!

 

Since 'like it or not', internet has become ipso facto 'the' daily

reality for many of us, pray tell, what are the minimum number of

lagnas or methods that one can use in this reality, from your

experience to decipher the true intent of the typical internet

individual who goes by a 'chhadma-naam' while seeking a reading? This

is important to know, given that even accepted doyens of jyotish get

clobbered from time to time by dissatisfied clients.

 

 

vedic astrology , " sunil nair "

<astro_tellerkerala wrote:

>

>

> Hare ramakrishna,

>

> dear jyothish volunteers.

>

> Generaly most astrologers can see from udaya lagna

it

> self ,the intention of queriest and be prepare to face him .Some

will

> come to test astrologers ,some will tell lies ,some r just lazy

and not

> looking for advise just to satisfy --some one may come .

>

> There are several other methods also --even the touch (known

sparsha

> lagna) ,first word he speak (akshar lagna) and even his body

laungage

> is mentioned in some good prashna books or good gurus will teach u

> --like this many --each astrologers who trained under guru and has

good

> spiritual power has diffrnt methods ,and even nimittas and omens

also

> has many story to tell u.

>

> Some of the methods we cannot use in this age of internet

jyothish ,

>

> regrds sunil nair .

>

> om shreem mahalxami namah.

>

> pt.sunilnair <pt.sunilnair

vedic astrology , " Jyotish Volunteers "

> <primusjyotishi@> wrote:

> >

> > When a client approaches a divinator (astrologer for instance)

> > Should the astrologer first run a compatibility analysis between

the

> > nativity and the astrologer's chart before accepting the client?

> >

> > As a regular practice?

> >

> > Any clues as to what the compatibility must include?

> >

> > Has anyone looked into this earlier and what were their findings,

if

> > they would care to share?

> >

> > Communication may be the key, again? Or is it??

> >

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Primus

 

God Bless U

 

Think only for the help the person want from you only concerntrate on his demand

and what you can give with your skills and intuitions. if you want to relate

present time chart then only analysis what will be the person gaining from you

and what you gain from the client. I mean check your 11th house and his 11th

house as well. This is the way What An Astrologer must always do.

 

A Foresight Prince of India

Prem Chopra

 

 

 

Jyotish Volunteers <primusjyotishi

vedic astrology

Saturday, July 21, 2007 5:23:32 AM

[vedic astrology] A question for all savants

(compatibility/compatability again)

 

When a client approaches a divinator (astrologer for instance)

Should the astrologer first run a compatibility analysis between the

nativity and the astrologer's chart before accepting the client?

 

As a regular practice?

 

Any clues as to what the compatibility must include?

 

Has anyone looked into this earlier and what were their findings, if

they would care to share?

 

Communication may be the key, again? Or is it??

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Shri. Primus:

 

There are prashna methods by which even a minor change in vighatikas

(one vighatika will work out to 24 seconds), can show subtle changes

in the decisive factors. There are certain elements unique to

prashna, like Dhwaja, yoni, ashtamangala indications, trisphuta,

sookshma trisphuta, etc. Moreover, the same prashna lagna can

indicate different things based on the relationship between prashna

lagna and the natal lagna of the questioner. A complete prashna

analysis is such a detailed procedure that no matter how many persons

approach the individual astrologer, he/ she will be able to give

astounding insights with the help of this. I think you ar a student

of Shri. K.N.Rao...Ask him......we have once had a demonstration in

which the prashna expert was able to answer the queries of entirely

unknown members of the audience with astounding accuracy - even

though the queries were raised with same prashna lagna (a lagna

operates for a long time - is it not?).

 

Internet has not changed anything except that people are able to

contact the astrologers from a longer distance in absentia, and that

anybody can write about anybody and it gets published without any

censorship, and people are able to lap it up as if both are equal

without any regard to the difference in levels of their caliberes and

accepted credentials!

 

So, Prashna rules will still help. To tell a very basic thing,

supposing an expert astrologer gets 100 mails requesting readings,

he/ she can't open all the 100 at the same time. The time the

astrologer opens the query can be taken as an additional prashna

chart apart from the time at which the query was posted at the

querent's end.

 

But, I would like to give a sincere word of advice to all aspiring

astrologers - do not give more than 2 detailed prashna readings per

day ....snap shot prashnas as we often see in this list are o.k.

(even they take their toll on your nerves over time). Performing a

detailed Prashna Kriya takes too much mental energy from the

astrologer and in the interests of his physical health, the

astrologer should avoid giving detailed prashna consultations for

more than two persons per day. In fact, many astrology experts of

Kerala in those days will not see more than 4 clients per day no

matter how important. The first 4 will be taken in and the 5th will

be turned out no matter how important the client might be from a

worldly point of view. Their accuracies were remarkable only because

they saved their systems from exhaustion = both physically and

mentally.

 

Doyens of astrology are clubbered by some dissatisfied clients -

true; but an objective analysis = at least in some cases will prove

that those clients generally are of argumentative nature and are

prone to pick up fights with everyone, and that they were not

dissatisfied with the " service " but with the " predictions " which were

not to their taste. While clubbering, they may say they were

dissatisfied with the " service " , but in reality, they would not have

enjoyed the indications shown in the predictions or would have found

it difficult to accept the outcomes predicted, and hence they might

trash the astrologer - for no fault of his.

 

If astrological clients approach the astrologer with " Bhavyaa "

(humble attitude) without a mercenary attitude (I give money; you

give service; I " demand " this from you; You have no right to refuse;

etc. as if the astrologer is a personal slave of the client),and if

the astrologer is well-learned in the techniques of astrology,

prashna can never go wrong. Appraisal of astrologers immediately

after a reading is patently absurd; From my own experience, I have

given predictions which seemed unlikely when I gave them, and have

been rubbished by clients (though not publicly but in private mails

to me saying " with due respect to you, I don't think what you have

said can happen; there is no chance " ). But time has often proved me

correct - however unlikely the predictions seemed when I gave them.

 

I can say with confidence that at least 80% of the times, a

reasonably good astrologer will be on dot regarding predicting life-

events and outcomes. The remaining 20% is always variable anyway due

to the dynamic nature of Fate.

 

Using astrology as a tool to provide insight into the karmic forces

in your life so that you can negotiate them with proper attitudes and

strategies is the best approach to astrology - at least in my opinion.

 

Blessed be.

Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.vedic-

astrology , " Jyotish Volunteers " <primusjyotishi

wrote:

>

> Thanks for sharing, Sir!

>

> Since 'like it or not', internet has become ipso facto 'the' daily

> reality for many of us, pray tell, what are the minimum number of

> lagnas or methods that one can use in this reality, from your

> experience to decipher the true intent of the typical internet

> individual who goes by a 'chhadma-naam' while seeking a reading?

This

> is important to know, given that even accepted doyens of jyotish

get

> clobbered from time to time by dissatisfied clients.

>

>

> vedic astrology , " sunil nair "

> <astro_tellerkerala@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Hare ramakrishna,

> >

> > dear jyothish volunteers.

> >

> > Generaly most astrologers can see from udaya

lagna

> it

> > self ,the intention of queriest and be prepare to face him .Some

> will

> > come to test astrologers ,some will tell lies ,some r just lazy

> and not

> > looking for advise just to satisfy --some one may come .

> >

> > There are several other methods also --even the touch (known

> sparsha

> > lagna) ,first word he speak (akshar lagna) and even his body

> laungage

> > is mentioned in some good prashna books or good gurus will teach u

> > --like this many --each astrologers who trained under guru and

has

> good

> > spiritual power has diffrnt methods ,and even nimittas and

omens

> also

> > has many story to tell u.

> >

> > Some of the methods we cannot use in this age of internet

> jyothish ,

> >

> > regrds sunil nair .

> >

> > om shreem mahalxami namah.

> >

> > pt.sunilnair@ <pt.sunilnair@>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology , " Jyotish Volunteers "

> > <primusjyotishi@> wrote:

> > >

> > > When a client approaches a divinator (astrologer for instance)

> > > Should the astrologer first run a compatibility analysis

between

> the

> > > nativity and the astrologer's chart before accepting the client?

> > >

> > > As a regular practice?

> > >

> > > Any clues as to what the compatibility must include?

> > >

> > > Has anyone looked into this earlier and what were their

findings,

> if

> > > they would care to share?

> > >

> > > Communication may be the key, again? Or is it??

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear Shri. Primus:

 

No....the astrologer must never check the compatibility between his

chart and his client's chart. A king may have subjects who may not

have a good impression about him or who may not be compatible to

him. But, Raaja Dharma of those days demanded that the king should

be above such considerations (there have been many ideal rulers who

have followed this). Like this, an astrologer must always provide

services to any client who requests his service with a sincere

intent. If the client treats the astrologer with respect, regarding

the person giving the prediction the respect due to a Guru with vedic

etiquette, and humbly presents the query, no matter how their

individual compatibilities be, the interactions will turn out to be

most cordial for both parties concerned.

 

The positional respect and protocols (Rafalji has also written this

in one of his recent mails) being followed will overshadow all

possible negative influences based on natal compatibilities between

the astrologer and the client. Actually works like Prashna Maarga

clearly indicate how the querent should approach the astrologer and

how the astrologer should answer queries. Both cannot stray in those

protocols.

 

Problems between good astrologers and clients is a rarity. If the

astrologer has dealt with thousands of cases, probably one or two

might be dissatisfied. That is an infinitesimal minority and not

worthy of consideration at all. The problem might be more due to the

inherent nature of the person. Once a person requests help, it might

be impossible for the astrologer to check whether that person has

good attitude,etc. because just to check the odd apple out of 10,000

good apples, the astrologer cannot waste time applying the great

principles to everyone which is a waste of time. The astrologer has

to necessariy go by the attitude as shown by the mails/

interactions. If he/ she is not satisfied with the tone/ perceived

attitude of the client, it is best to reject the client right away.

 

Relying on one's own inner voice and heeding it completely is best

for astrologers while deciding whether to take a client or not. Of

course, prashna charts will indicate whether the " intent " is good or

not. In my experience, I have found that even if the " intent " is not

dishonest, there are certain persons with an inherent " I-am-not-

satisfied; I deserve something better " attitude, who will never get

satisfied. But, they will be the same with every person. That

attitude is their problem, not the astrologer's. A good astrologer's

reputation is not easily tarnished no matter who writes what about

him/ her. Only the emotional trauma of being rubbished and the hurt

professional pride might be there. It will pass away with the

soothing reassurances of other satisfied clients who are in the

majority.

 

In short, the astrologer should strive to serve every person who

approaches him/ her with a humble and prayerful attitude. The

astrologer- in turn should adopt a humble attitude " By God's Grace, I

am a tool in deciphering the Fate of this individual and in providing

insight to the client. Let Divinities guide me best " .

 

Blessed be.

Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

 

- In vedic astrology , " Jyotish Volunteers "

<primusjyotishi wrote:

>

> When a client approaches a divinator (astrologer for instance)

> Should the astrologer first run a compatibility analysis between

the

> nativity and the astrologer's chart before accepting the client?

>

> As a regular practice?

>

> Any clues as to what the compatibility must include?

>

> Has anyone looked into this earlier and what were their findings,

if

> they would care to share?

>

> Communication may be the key, again? Or is it??

>

[Guest guest]

Hare ramakrishna ,

 

dear jyothish volunteers.

 

Why are you worried abt the satisfaction of only queriests and not

also poor astrologers.

 

Suppose some one contact u for a reading --whether paid or free ,after

reading given ,the next phace starts the reporting from their part

..Suppose i predicted marriage will happen in 6 months and then within a

week he comes out with doubts i dont understand what u said mode --then

reports that some 5 kundalies r there and can u see matchting --if u

obligh then what will happen ,u r long jouney of repetion of predictions

starts and if not he is not satisfied. what can jyothishi do to change

his attitude. as already society has feed him some thing ,as jyothishis

can be treated this way .which no body does to a doctor.

 

Even i got experince in my begining years some one comes and wont

go after u given all predictions ,he keeps on asking same questions and

he dont mind other ppl r waiting ,this stopped when i clearerly said i

will charge on hourly basis .And also has to limit some ppl asking more

than few questions ,can i sit only to make him satisfy .

 

Now because nets and phone is proving a meneace in this case .As u

dont know to pick up it or not as a jyothishi also a human and dont

think that he also needs rest and social mingling and commitments.

 

Now ur question i hope i answered ,i know many technics which can be

used for various occassion s but dont expect a jyothishi shud check this

first and do consultations ,even in ayurveda so many technics related to

jyothisha is there which time is controlled by yamadhoot and even best

treatment will fail ,so what physician should do --reject treatment or

---?

 

so all depends on attitude .My electrician who take usualy free

reading and he try to cheat on any work given to him .so is it is

applicable only to jyothish or other fields also ?.

 

How can we change the attitude of society thats the problem .I can

quote lot of examples from my own experience itself ,how ppl treats a

jyothishi even though they call u guruji or maharaj .

 

So nothing can be done if clients are not satisfied ,some one wants

us to say that their lover ( one way ) is loving them ,or they will

abuse u and ur family in groups ,tell me frankly if some one cannot

accept facts and says --i am not satisfied .what can be done.

 

For finer methods myself and guruji brahmasri dakshina moorthiji

already expalined some technics and if u r purticular abt it-- get a

guru and start learning as there are 1000s of technics but most them

wont be available in net.or in google search .

 

regrds sunil nair

 

om shreem mahalaxmai namah.

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology , " Jyotish Volunteers "

<primusjyotishi wrote:

>

> Thanks for sharing, Sir!

>

> Since 'like it or not', internet has become ipso facto 'the' daily

> reality for many of us, pray tell, what are the minimum number of

> lagnas or methods that one can use in this reality, from your

> experience to decipher the true intent of the typical internet

> individual who goes by a 'chhadma-naam' while seeking a reading? This

> is important to know, given that even accepted doyens of jyotish get

> clobbered from time to time by dissatisfied clients.

>

>

> vedic astrology , " sunil nair "

> astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> >

> >

> > Hare ramakrishna,

> >

> > dear jyothish volunteers.

> >

> > Generaly most astrologers can see from udaya lagna

> it

> > self ,the intention of queriest and be prepare to face him .Some

> will

> > come to test astrologers ,some will tell lies ,some r just lazy

> and not

> > looking for advise just to satisfy --some one may come .

> >

> > There are several other methods also --even the touch (known

> sparsha

> > lagna) ,first word he speak (akshar lagna) and even his body

> laungage

> > is mentioned in some good prashna books or good gurus will teach u

> > --like this many --each astrologers who trained under guru and has

> good

> > spiritual power has diffrnt methods ,and even nimittas and omens

> also

> > has many story to tell u.

> >

> > Some of the methods we cannot use in this age of internet

> jyothish ,

> >

> > regrds sunil nair .

> >

> > om shreem mahalxami namah.

> >

> > pt.sunilnair@ <pt.sunilnair@

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology , " Jyotish Volunteers "

> > <primusjyotishi@> wrote:

> > >

> > > When a client approaches a divinator (astrologer for instance)

> > > Should the astrologer first run a compatibility analysis between

> the

> > > nativity and the astrologer's chart before accepting the client?

> > >

> > > As a regular practice?

> > >

> > > Any clues as to what the compatibility must include?

> > >

> > > Has anyone looked into this earlier and what were their findings,

> if

> > > they would care to share?

> > >

> > > Communication may be the key, again? Or is it??

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >