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Dear Members:

 

I am posting an extract of the interaction between myself and one of

this list members who wanted a prediction from me. I have given him

counselling based on his horoscope and also based on a prashna

chart. Marital chart showed marital delays and problem with love

matters which he has already experienced. The prashna chart showed

the possibility of " Paisacha baadha " (trouble due to ghostly

entities that block happiness in the family). I had taken this

matter into account and not wanting to scare the member

unnecessarily, I had not divulged the matter to him. Instead, I

suggested beeja mantras to counteract that effect and also

suggested " Sumangali Pooja " to be performed. He later came back to

me and asked about the ghostly events himself because his family

members have had visitations from that entity. I replied back

saying that I have already taken that factor into account while

giving my suggestions.

 

The prashna chart showed that the entity is likely to leave the

Earth Plane by this year end and so it cannot trouble him any

longer. So, based on that and also based on his horoscope, and

having faith in the remedies I had suggested, I had predicted

possibility of marriage in Feb 2008 or in 2009. Actually, dasa-

bhukti and transit influences are quite tough and contradictory for

this event and I had taken so many factors and balanced/counter-

balanced so many possibilities and had predicted the date as a

Benediction; let the marriage happen in Feb 2008! I had even gone

to the extent of suggesting attitude modification (he may not get a

wife of his expectations) for the marriage to happen; or else it

might even be denied.

 

Now, the member has been persisting about sharing the prashna chart

with him. I had given him broad hints about why I though Paisacha

baadha was there for him; but he insists that I share the prashna

chart and give the complete details to him, or else I am unfair! My

reservation regarding this is that prashna is an advanced

application and sharing its techniques offhand may be confusing and

may lead the native into reading too much into each prashna chart

and fear paisacha baadha when infact it might not be there at all!

He does not understand me and is getting at me prompting me to write

mail after mail and I am at my patience's end! If I spend pointless

time debating like this with one person how can I serve

others.....Why does not this member understand this? Not sharing

sensitive prashna charts is a hallowed tradition......Am I not

justified in my action when I have acted in the best interests of

the member?

 

I am posting the latest exchange between us for your reference. I

request those who are knowledgeable in authentic prashna traditions

to write to the member (He is the person who is cutting and pasting

the Garga Hora in this list) telling him that I am justified in my

stand, and I am doing it in the best interests. He does not

understand the danger of maintaining the prashna chart indicating a

paisacha baadha which is inauspicious! I am pained by his words

like " Your are hiding something; hiding things is not a sign of

fairness " etc. It is almost like accusing me of being a cheat! Again

he comment on my professionalism; I am acting as per my professional

ethics; why is he - a novice imputing motives to me and commenting

on my professionalism? Is this what an astrologer gets for his

service?

 

Below is the extract....

-

Dear Shri. Lalith Mishra:

 

 

 

Unnecessary openness in the name of frankness is the bane of our

society now-a-days. Will you go out in the nude on the public roads

just to prove you have nothing to hide? Asking advanced and unique

predictive techniques of a practising professional persistently even

after he has denied access to that knowledge is very rude . The

access to that knowledge was denied because it can be misinterpreted

and if you post that " technique " in the VA list, many other members

will get anxious (just as some members are wondering what is wrong

with their horoscopes with the Garga Hora posting of yours!)

 

 

 

What do I have to gain by withholding information? I am too

advanced in my profession to be taking advice from people regarding

what is the professional way of handling my clients. I have no

malefic intentions, and your accusing me of being unfair is rude (in

fact each of your mails contains something or the other).

 

 

 

I can assure you only one thing - I have acted in the best of

intentions.

 

 

 

I am posting this in the VA list so that other learned members might

put some wisdom into you (I have failed in this with my repeated

replies to you).

 

 

 

Blessed be.

 

Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI

 

 

 

 

 

" Lalit Mishra, Noida " <mlalit wrote:

 

Res. Pandit Ji,

 

 

 

On the one hand , I m thankful to you for all ur analysis and I will

follow ur instructions but on the other I must say don't seem fair

enough in ur professional approach.

 

 

 

Hiding things is not a sign of fairness.

 

 

 

If I knew astrology, perhapse I w'd not have asked u for such simple

things or charts, required to keep in my records. My level is not a

constraint for u to share important charts, if tomorrow I need to

contact u for sth, how I w'd do without any reference. If I ask u, u

should not hold things at ur's end and u don't gain any thing with

ur approach.

 

 

 

 

 

Regards,

Lalit Mishra.

 

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Pandit Ji,

 

I bought a service and had a private communication, it's at first sight

wrong for u to post any part of private communication without my

consent.

 

U cant imagine anything solely at ur end, if i myself gave u hints of a

possible obstacle due to spirit, how i m going to fear some thing or the

other. This should not be basis of not providing infomation.

 

You are at advanced level, which is realized by many that's why u are

being contacted, but that u r into deciding everything in profession one

sided, can not be justified.

 

Though, i wanted chart for keeping in my records, with no doubts on u,

ur apporach makes me think otherwise.

 

In any profession, transparency is key to gain one's faith and that u

didn't bother this, on the basis of ur advanced level u pls. dont

justify what is incorrect, it's a pity that u make ur mood to post

private communication and at the same time, in ur reply to my private

mail id, u accused me that i can post ur advanced technique in the

group, I dont know how to react.

 

That's a clear contradiction, I was interested in the final outcome

which is chart, i should know that, and not in ur's technique but u have

made it a public issue instread of giving same to me.

 

Why development of ancient knowledge has come to an end is because of

this fear which i dont know why some knowledgable people like u

insttalled within.

 

I wish to assure u that ur respect is no way corroborated and intact in

my views, i m also thankful to u for the remedies and mantras u provided

to me, even if that dont work, i will have same respect for u but u are

completely wrong at ur part in ur dealings. Pls. check ur dasha and

antardasha, something wrong somewhere.

 

regards,

Lalit.

 

 

 

vedic astrology , " dakshinastrologer "

<dakshinastrologer wrote:

>

> Dear Members:

>

> I am posting an extract of the interaction between myself and one of

> this list members who wanted a prediction from me. I have given him

> counselling based on his horoscope and also based on a prashna

> chart. Marital chart showed marital delays and problem with love

> matters which he has already experienced. The prashna chart showed

> the possibility of " Paisacha baadha " (trouble due to ghostly

> entities that block happiness in the family). I had taken this

> matter into account and not wanting to scare the member

> unnecessarily, I had not divulged the matter to him. Instead, I

> suggested beeja mantras to counteract that effect and also

> suggested " Sumangali Pooja " to be performed. He later came back to

> me and asked about the ghostly events himself because his family

> members have had visitations from that entity. I replied back

> saying that I have already taken that factor into account while

> giving my suggestions.

>

> The prashna chart showed that the entity is likely to leave the

> Earth Plane by this year end and so it cannot trouble him any

> longer. So, based on that and also based on his horoscope, and

> having faith in the remedies I had suggested, I had predicted

> possibility of marriage in Feb 2008 or in 2009. Actually, dasa-

> bhukti and transit influences are quite tough and contradictory for

> this event and I had taken so many factors and balanced/counter-

> balanced so many possibilities and had predicted the date as a

> Benediction; let the marriage happen in Feb 2008! I had even gone

> to the extent of suggesting attitude modification (he may not get a

> wife of his expectations) for the marriage to happen; or else it

> might even be denied.

>

> Now, the member has been persisting about sharing the prashna chart

> with him. I had given him broad hints about why I though Paisacha

> baadha was there for him; but he insists that I share the prashna

> chart and give the complete details to him, or else I am unfair! My

> reservation regarding this is that prashna is an advanced

> application and sharing its techniques offhand may be confusing and

> may lead the native into reading too much into each prashna chart

> and fear paisacha baadha when infact it might not be there at all!

> He does not understand me and is getting at me prompting me to write

> mail after mail and I am at my patience's end! If I spend pointless

> time debating like this with one person how can I serve

> others.....Why does not this member understand this? Not sharing

> sensitive prashna charts is a hallowed tradition......Am I not

> justified in my action when I have acted in the best interests of

> the member?

>

> I am posting the latest exchange between us for your reference. I

> request those who are knowledgeable in authentic prashna traditions

> to write to the member (He is the person who is cutting and pasting

> the Garga Hora in this list) telling him that I am justified in my

> stand, and I am doing it in the best interests. He does not

> understand the danger of maintaining the prashna chart indicating a

> paisacha baadha which is inauspicious! I am pained by his words

> like " Your are hiding something; hiding things is not a sign of

> fairness " etc. It is almost like accusing me of being a cheat! Again

> he comment on my professionalism; I am acting as per my professional

> ethics; why is he - a novice imputing motives to me and commenting

> on my professionalism? Is this what an astrologer gets for his

> service?

>

> Below is the extract....

> -

> Dear Shri. Lalith Mishra:

>

>

>

> Unnecessary openness in the name of frankness is the bane of our

> society now-a-days. Will you go out in the nude on the public roads

> just to prove you have nothing to hide? Asking advanced and unique

> predictive techniques of a practising professional persistently even

> after he has denied access to that knowledge is very rude . The

> access to that knowledge was denied because it can be misinterpreted

> and if you post that " technique " in the VA list, many other members

> will get anxious (just as some members are wondering what is wrong

> with their horoscopes with the Garga Hora posting of yours!)

>

>

>

> What do I have to gain by withholding information? I am too

> advanced in my profession to be taking advice from people regarding

> what is the professional way of handling my clients. I have no

> malefic intentions, and your accusing me of being unfair is rude (in

> fact each of your mails contains something or the other).

>

>

>

> I can assure you only one thing - I have acted in the best of

> intentions.

>

>

>

> I am posting this in the VA list so that other learned members might

> put some wisdom into you (I have failed in this with my repeated

> replies to you).

>

>

>

> Blessed be.

>

> Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI

>

>

>

>

>

> " Lalit Mishra, Noida " mlalit wrote:

>

> Res. Pandit Ji,

>

>

>

> On the one hand , I m thankful to you for all ur analysis and I will

> follow ur instructions but on the other I must say don't seem fair

> enough in ur professional approach.

>

>

>

> Hiding things is not a sign of fairness.

>

>

>

> If I knew astrology, perhapse I w'd not have asked u for such simple

> things or charts, required to keep in my records. My level is not a

> constraint for u to share important charts, if tomorrow I need to

> contact u for sth, how I w'd do without any reference. If I ask u, u

> should not hold things at ur's end and u don't gain any thing with

> ur approach.

>

>

>

>

>

> Regards,

> Lalit Mishra.

>

> ===================================================================

>

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Res. Pandit Ji,

 

I m sorry, i happen to write - Ur respect is not corroborated, in fact,

i mean ur respect is corroborated still.

 

Respect is a deep feeling and i know that with ur help so many people

are getting benefitted. So, for a personal experience though it is

bought, I m no one to say anthing affecting ur greatness and kindness

that u have some other point of time.

 

regards,

Lalit.

 

 

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology , " dakshinastrologer "

<dakshinastrologer wrote:

>

> Dear Members:

>

> I am posting an extract of the interaction between myself and one of

> this list members who wanted a prediction from me. I have given him

> counselling based on his horoscope and also based on a prashna

> chart. Marital chart showed marital delays and problem with love

> matters which he has already experienced. The prashna chart showed

> the possibility of " Paisacha baadha " (trouble due to ghostly

> entities that block happiness in the family). I had taken this

> matter into account and not wanting to scare the member

> unnecessarily, I had not divulged the matter to him. Instead, I

> suggested beeja mantras to counteract that effect and also

> suggested " Sumangali Pooja " to be performed. He later came back to

> me and asked about the ghostly events himself because his family

> members have had visitations from that entity. I replied back

> saying that I have already taken that factor into account while

> giving my suggestions.

>

> The prashna chart showed that the entity is likely to leave the

> Earth Plane by this year end and so it cannot trouble him any

> longer. So, based on that and also based on his horoscope, and

> having faith in the remedies I had suggested, I had predicted

> possibility of marriage in Feb 2008 or in 2009. Actually, dasa-

> bhukti and transit influences are quite tough and contradictory for

> this event and I had taken so many factors and balanced/counter-

> balanced so many possibilities and had predicted the date as a

> Benediction; let the marriage happen in Feb 2008! I had even gone

> to the extent of suggesting attitude modification (he may not get a

> wife of his expectations) for the marriage to happen; or else it

> might even be denied.

>

> Now, the member has been persisting about sharing the prashna chart

> with him. I had given him broad hints about why I though Paisacha

> baadha was there for him; but he insists that I share the prashna

> chart and give the complete details to him, or else I am unfair! My

> reservation regarding this is that prashna is an advanced

> application and sharing its techniques offhand may be confusing and

> may lead the native into reading too much into each prashna chart

> and fear paisacha baadha when infact it might not be there at all!

> He does not understand me and is getting at me prompting me to write

> mail after mail and I am at my patience's end! If I spend pointless

> time debating like this with one person how can I serve

> others.....Why does not this member understand this? Not sharing

> sensitive prashna charts is a hallowed tradition......Am I not

> justified in my action when I have acted in the best interests of

> the member?

>

> I am posting the latest exchange between us for your reference. I

> request those who are knowledgeable in authentic prashna traditions

> to write to the member (He is the person who is cutting and pasting

> the Garga Hora in this list) telling him that I am justified in my

> stand, and I am doing it in the best interests. He does not

> understand the danger of maintaining the prashna chart indicating a

> paisacha baadha which is inauspicious! I am pained by his words

> like " Your are hiding something; hiding things is not a sign of

> fairness " etc. It is almost like accusing me of being a cheat! Again

> he comment on my professionalism; I am acting as per my professional

> ethics; why is he - a novice imputing motives to me and commenting

> on my professionalism? Is this what an astrologer gets for his

> service?

>

> Below is the extract....

> -

> Dear Shri. Lalith Mishra:

>

>

>

> Unnecessary openness in the name of frankness is the bane of our

> society now-a-days. Will you go out in the nude on the public roads

> just to prove you have nothing to hide? Asking advanced and unique

> predictive techniques of a practising professional persistently even

> after he has denied access to that knowledge is very rude . The

> access to that knowledge was denied because it can be misinterpreted

> and if you post that " technique " in the VA list, many other members

> will get anxious (just as some members are wondering what is wrong

> with their horoscopes with the Garga Hora posting of yours!)

>

>

>

> What do I have to gain by withholding information? I am too

> advanced in my profession to be taking advice from people regarding

> what is the professional way of handling my clients. I have no

> malefic intentions, and your accusing me of being unfair is rude (in

> fact each of your mails contains something or the other).

>

>

>

> I can assure you only one thing - I have acted in the best of

> intentions.

>

>

>

> I am posting this in the VA list so that other learned members might

> put some wisdom into you (I have failed in this with my repeated

> replies to you).

>

>

>

> Blessed be.

>

> Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI

>

>

>

>

>

> " Lalit Mishra, Noida " mlalit wrote:

>

> Res. Pandit Ji,

>

>

>

> On the one hand , I m thankful to you for all ur analysis and I will

> follow ur instructions but on the other I must say don't seem fair

> enough in ur professional approach.

>

>

>

> Hiding things is not a sign of fairness.

>

>

>

> If I knew astrology, perhapse I w'd not have asked u for such simple

> things or charts, required to keep in my records. My level is not a

> constraint for u to share important charts, if tomorrow I need to

> contact u for sth, how I w'd do without any reference. If I ask u, u

> should not hold things at ur's end and u don't gain any thing with

> ur approach.

>

>

>

>

>

> Regards,

> Lalit Mishra.

>

> ===================================================================

>

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*hraum namah adityaya*

 

Dear Jyotishas

 

Its obvious that Astrologer has the right to keep Prasna chart to

Himself. Client can ask for the chart, but if client demands it, then

its rude and completely against Vedic Ettiquette. Im very sad that these

kind of things are not crystal clear.

 

 

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal

Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

 

litsol napisa?(a):

>

>

> Pandit Ji,

>

> I bought a service and had a private communication, it's at first sight

> wrong for u to post any part of private communication without my

> consent.

>

> U cant imagine anything solely at ur end, if i myself gave u hints of a

> possible obstacle due to spirit, how i m going to fear some thing or the

> other. This should not be basis of not providing infomation.

>

> You are at advanced level, which is realized by many that's why u are

> being contacted, but that u r into deciding everything in profession one

> sided, can not be justified.

>

> Though, i wanted chart for keeping in my records, with no doubts on u,

> ur apporach makes me think otherwise.

>

> In any profession, transparency is key to gain one's faith and that u

> didn't bother this, on the basis of ur advanced level u pls. dont

> justify what is incorrect, it's a pity that u make ur mood to post

> private communication and at the same time, in ur reply to my private

> mail id, u accused me that i can post ur advanced technique in the

> group, I dont know how to react.

>

> That's a clear contradiction, I was interested in the final outcome

> which is chart, i should know that, and not in ur's technique but u have

> made it a public issue instread of giving same to me.

>

> Why development of ancient knowledge has come to an end is because of

> this fear which i dont know why some knowledgable people like u

> insttalled within.

>

> I wish to assure u that ur respect is no way corroborated and intact in

> my views, i m also thankful to u for the remedies and mantras u provided

> to me, even if that dont work, i will have same respect for u but u are

> completely wrong at ur part in ur dealings. Pls. check ur dasha and

> antardasha, something wrong somewhere.

>

> regards,

> Lalit.

>

> vedic astrology

> <vedic astrology%40>, " dakshinastrologer "

> <dakshinastrologer@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Members:

> >

> > I am posting an extract of the interaction between myself and one of

> > this list members who wanted a prediction from me. I have given him

> > counselling based on his horoscope and also based on a prashna

> > chart. Marital chart showed marital delays and problem with love

> > matters which he has already experienced. The prashna chart showed

> > the possibility of " Paisacha baadha " (trouble due to ghostly

> > entities that block happiness in the family). I had taken this

> > matter into account and not wanting to scare the member

> > unnecessarily, I had not divulged the matter to him. Instead, I

> > suggested beeja mantras to counteract that effect and also

> > suggested " Sumangali Pooja " to be performed. He later came back to

> > me and asked about the ghostly events himself because his family

> > members have had visitations from that entity. I replied back

> > saying that I have already taken that factor into account while

> > giving my suggestions.

> >

> > The prashna chart showed that the entity is likely to leave the

> > Earth Plane by this year end and so it cannot trouble him any

> > longer. So, based on that and also based on his horoscope, and

> > having faith in the remedies I had suggested, I had predicted

> > possibility of marriage in Feb 2008 or in 2009. Actually, dasa-

> > bhukti and transit influences are quite tough and contradictory for

> > this event and I had taken so many factors and balanced/counter-

> > balanced so many possibilities and had predicted the date as a

> > Benediction; let the marriage happen in Feb 2008! I had even gone

> > to the extent of suggesting attitude modification (he may not get a

> > wife of his expectations) for the marriage to happen; or else it

> > might even be denied.

> >

> > Now, the member has been persisting about sharing the prashna chart

> > with him. I had given him broad hints about why I though Paisacha

> > baadha was there for him; but he insists that I share the prashna

> > chart and give the complete details to him, or else I am unfair! My

> > reservation regarding this is that prashna is an advanced

> > application and sharing its techniques offhand may be confusing and

> > may lead the native into reading too much into each prashna chart

> > and fear paisacha baadha when infact it might not be there at all!

> > He does not understand me and is getting at me prompting me to write

> > mail after mail and I am at my patience's end! If I spend pointless

> > time debating like this with one person how can I serve

> > others.....Why does not this member understand this? Not sharing

> > sensitive prashna charts is a hallowed tradition... ...Am I not

> > justified in my action when I have acted in the best interests of

> > the member?

> >

> > I am posting the latest exchange between us for your reference. I

> > request those who are knowledgeable in authentic prashna traditions

> > to write to the member (He is the person who is cutting and pasting

> > the Garga Hora in this list) telling him that I am justified in my

> > stand, and I am doing it in the best interests. He does not

> > understand the danger of maintaining the prashna chart indicating a

> > paisacha baadha which is inauspicious! I am pained by his words

> > like " Your are hiding something; hiding things is not a sign of

> > fairness " etc. It is almost like accusing me of being a cheat! Again

> > he comment on my professionalism; I am acting as per my professional

> > ethics; why is he - a novice imputing motives to me and commenting

> > on my professionalism? Is this what an astrologer gets for his

> > service?

> >

> > Below is the extract....

> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -

> > Dear Shri. Lalith Mishra:

> >

> >

> >

> > Unnecessary openness in the name of frankness is the bane of our

> > society now-a-days. Will you go out in the nude on the public roads

> > just to prove you have nothing to hide? Asking advanced and unique

> > predictive techniques of a practising professional persistently even

> > after he has denied access to that knowledge is very rude . The

> > access to that knowledge was denied because it can be misinterpreted

> > and if you post that " technique " in the VA list, many other members

> > will get anxious (just as some members are wondering what is wrong

> > with their horoscopes with the Garga Hora posting of yours!)

> >

> >

> >

> > What do I have to gain by withholding information? I am too

> > advanced in my profession to be taking advice from people regarding

> > what is the professional way of handling my clients. I have no

> > malefic intentions, and your accusing me of being unfair is rude (in

> > fact each of your mails contains something or the other).

> >

> >

> >

> > I can assure you only one thing - I have acted in the best of

> > intentions.

> >

> >

> >

> > I am posting this in the VA list so that other learned members might

> > put some wisdom into you (I have failed in this with my repeated

> > replies to you).

> >

> >

> >

> > Blessed be.

> >

> > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > " Lalit Mishra, Noida " mlalit wrote:

> >

> > Res. Pandit Ji,

> >

> >

> >

> > On the one hand , I m thankful to you for all ur analysis and I will

> > follow ur instructions but on the other I must say don't seem fair

> > enough in ur professional approach.

> >

> >

> >

> > Hiding things is not a sign of fairness.

> >

> >

> >

> > If I knew astrology, perhapse I w'd not have asked u for such simple

> > things or charts, required to keep in my records. My level is not a

> > constraint for u to share important charts, if tomorrow I need to

> > contact u for sth, how I w'd do without any reference. If I ask u, u

> > should not hold things at ur's end and u don't gain any thing with

> > ur approach.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Regards,

> > Lalit Mishra.

> >

> > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= =========

> ========= =

> >

>

>

 

 

 

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Dear Shri. Lalith Sharma:

 

I have not divulged the part of the " paid service " in any form

whatsoever. I had given you detailed analysis on marital prospects -

none of which I have placed before the forum.

 

It is only the offhand message you were pestering me with that I had

shared with this august forum of astrologers. I have never

compromised the privacy of any of my clients before nor will I in

the future.

 

I had only shared relevant information which might be required for

senior members of this forum to give their opinion on that.

 

Believe me, writing 10 mails within the space of 2 days and that too

harping on the same topic without heeding to the polite requests of

others is really maddening if you are a recipient of those mails.

You forced me to share the mail.

 

In fact, I have written another private mail also to you advising

you on the remedies. I have not shared it here. I might be angry

or upset with anyone; but I will never shrink from my duties.

 

Blessed be.

Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

 

 

vedic astrology , " litsol " <mishra.lalit

wrote:

>

>

> Pandit Ji,

>

> I bought a service and had a private communication, it's at first

sight

> wrong for u to post any part of private communication without my

> consent.

>

> U cant imagine anything solely at ur end, if i myself gave u

hints of a

> possible obstacle due to spirit, how i m going to fear some thing

or the

> other. This should not be basis of not providing infomation.

>

> You are at advanced level, which is realized by many that's why u

are

> being contacted, but that u r into deciding everything in

profession one

> sided, can not be justified.

>

> Though, i wanted chart for keeping in my records, with no doubts

on u,

> ur apporach makes me think otherwise.

>

> In any profession, transparency is key to gain one's faith and

that u

> didn't bother this, on the basis of ur advanced level u pls. dont

> justify what is incorrect, it's a pity that u make ur mood to post

> private communication and at the same time, in ur reply to my

private

> mail id, u accused me that i can post ur advanced technique in the

> group, I dont know how to react.

>

> That's a clear contradiction, I was interested in the final

outcome

> which is chart, i should know that, and not in ur's technique but

u have

> made it a public issue instread of giving same to me.

>

> Why development of ancient knowledge has come to an end is

because of

> this fear which i dont know why some knowledgable people like u

> insttalled within.

>

> I wish to assure u that ur respect is no way corroborated and

intact in

> my views, i m also thankful to u for the remedies and mantras u

provided

> to me, even if that dont work, i will have same respect for u but

u are

> completely wrong at ur part in ur dealings. Pls. check ur dasha and

> antardasha, something wrong somewhere.

>

> regards,

> Lalit.

>

>

>

> vedic astrology , " dakshinastrologer "

> <dakshinastrologer@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Members:

> >

> > I am posting an extract of the interaction between myself and

one of

> > this list members who wanted a prediction from me. I have given

him

> > counselling based on his horoscope and also based on a prashna

> > chart. Marital chart showed marital delays and problem with love

> > matters which he has already experienced. The prashna chart

showed

> > the possibility of " Paisacha baadha " (trouble due to ghostly

> > entities that block happiness in the family). I had taken this

> > matter into account and not wanting to scare the member

> > unnecessarily, I had not divulged the matter to him. Instead, I

> > suggested beeja mantras to counteract that effect and also

> > suggested " Sumangali Pooja " to be performed. He later came back

to

> > me and asked about the ghostly events himself because his family

> > members have had visitations from that entity. I replied back

> > saying that I have already taken that factor into account while

> > giving my suggestions.

> >

> > The prashna chart showed that the entity is likely to leave the

> > Earth Plane by this year end and so it cannot trouble him any

> > longer. So, based on that and also based on his horoscope, and

> > having faith in the remedies I had suggested, I had predicted

> > possibility of marriage in Feb 2008 or in 2009. Actually, dasa-

> > bhukti and transit influences are quite tough and contradictory

for

> > this event and I had taken so many factors and balanced/counter-

> > balanced so many possibilities and had predicted the date as a

> > Benediction; let the marriage happen in Feb 2008! I had even gone

> > to the extent of suggesting attitude modification (he may not

get a

> > wife of his expectations) for the marriage to happen; or else it

> > might even be denied.

> >

> > Now, the member has been persisting about sharing the prashna

chart

> > with him. I had given him broad hints about why I though Paisacha

> > baadha was there for him; but he insists that I share the prashna

> > chart and give the complete details to him, or else I am unfair!

My

> > reservation regarding this is that prashna is an advanced

> > application and sharing its techniques offhand may be confusing

and

> > may lead the native into reading too much into each prashna chart

> > and fear paisacha baadha when infact it might not be there at

all!

> > He does not understand me and is getting at me prompting me to

write

> > mail after mail and I am at my patience's end! If I spend

pointless

> > time debating like this with one person how can I serve

> > others.....Why does not this member understand this? Not sharing

> > sensitive prashna charts is a hallowed tradition......Am I not

> > justified in my action when I have acted in the best interests of

> > the member?

> >

> > I am posting the latest exchange between us for your reference. I

> > request those who are knowledgeable in authentic prashna

traditions

> > to write to the member (He is the person who is cutting and

pasting

> > the Garga Hora in this list) telling him that I am justified in

my

> > stand, and I am doing it in the best interests. He does not

> > understand the danger of maintaining the prashna chart

indicating a

> > paisacha baadha which is inauspicious! I am pained by his words

> > like " Your are hiding something; hiding things is not a sign of

> > fairness " etc. It is almost like accusing me of being a cheat!

Again

> > he comment on my professionalism; I am acting as per my

professional

> > ethics; why is he - a novice imputing motives to me and

commenting

> > on my professionalism? Is this what an astrologer gets for his

> > service?

> >

> > Below is the extract....

> > --------------------------------

--

> > Dear Shri. Lalith Mishra:

> >

> >

> >

> > Unnecessary openness in the name of frankness is the bane of our

> > society now-a-days. Will you go out in the nude on the public

roads

> > just to prove you have nothing to hide? Asking advanced and

unique

> > predictive techniques of a practising professional persistently

even

> > after he has denied access to that knowledge is very rude . The

> > access to that knowledge was denied because it can be

misinterpreted

> > and if you post that " technique " in the VA list, many other

members

> > will get anxious (just as some members are wondering what is

wrong

> > with their horoscopes with the Garga Hora posting of yours!)

> >

> >

> >

> > What do I have to gain by withholding information? I am too

> > advanced in my profession to be taking advice from people

regarding

> > what is the professional way of handling my clients. I have no

> > malefic intentions, and your accusing me of being unfair is rude

(in

> > fact each of your mails contains something or the other).

> >

> >

> >

> > I can assure you only one thing - I have acted in the best of

> > intentions.

> >

> >

> >

> > I am posting this in the VA list so that other learned members

might

> > put some wisdom into you (I have failed in this with my repeated

> > replies to you).

> >

> >

> >

> > Blessed be.

> >

> > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > " Lalit Mishra, Noida " mlalit@ wrote:

> >

> > Res. Pandit Ji,

> >

> >

> >

> > On the one hand , I m thankful to you for all ur analysis and I

will

> > follow ur instructions but on the other I must say don't seem

fair

> > enough in ur professional approach.

> >

> >

> >

> > Hiding things is not a sign of fairness.

> >

> >

> >

> > If I knew astrology, perhapse I w'd not have asked u for such

simple

> > things or charts, required to keep in my records. My level is

not a

> > constraint for u to share important charts, if tomorrow I need to

> > contact u for sth, how I w'd do without any reference. If I ask

u, u

> > should not hold things at ur's end and u don't gain any thing

with

> > ur approach.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Regards,

> > Lalit Mishra.

> >

> >

===================================================================

> >

>

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Dear Rafal,

 

The issue is closed, however, u should have taken whole context in mind.

 

I dont think anywhere, it is documented in vedangas that one should not

be given a chart which is made for him and which is his chart.

 

Being absolutely indifferent is very difficult. This is the age of

openness and transparency, i saw it in your's approach when u explain

sth to a person, pandit ji was also doing same, still a unpleasant

episode happened. which i never wished. Now he mailed be reasons for not

sharing my prashna chart with me, and i accepted the reason.

 

regards,

Lalit.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme

wrote:

>

> *hraum namah adityaya*

>

> Dear Jyotishas

>

> Its obvious that Astrologer has the right to keep Prasna chart to

> Himself. Client can ask for the chart, but if client demands it, then

> its rude and completely against Vedic Ettiquette. Im very sad that

these

> kind of things are not crystal clear.

>

>

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> email: rafal

> Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

>

> litsol napisa?(a):

> >

> >

> > Pandit Ji,

> >

> > I bought a service and had a private communication, it's at first

sight

> > wrong for u to post any part of private communication without my

> > consent.

> >

> > U cant imagine anything solely at ur end, if i myself gave u hints

of a

> > possible obstacle due to spirit, how i m going to fear some thing or

the

> > other. This should not be basis of not providing infomation.

> >

> > You are at advanced level, which is realized by many that's why u

are

> > being contacted, but that u r into deciding everything in profession

one

> > sided, can not be justified.

> >

> > Though, i wanted chart for keeping in my records, with no doubts on

u,

> > ur apporach makes me think otherwise.

> >

> > In any profession, transparency is key to gain one's faith and that

u

> > didn't bother this, on the basis of ur advanced level u pls. dont

> > justify what is incorrect, it's a pity that u make ur mood to post

> > private communication and at the same time, in ur reply to my

private

> > mail id, u accused me that i can post ur advanced technique in the

> > group, I dont know how to react.

> >

> > That's a clear contradiction, I was interested in the final outcome

> > which is chart, i should know that, and not in ur's technique but u

have

> > made it a public issue instread of giving same to me.

> >

> > Why development of ancient knowledge has come to an end is because

of

> > this fear which i dont know why some knowledgable people like u

> > insttalled within.

> >

> > I wish to assure u that ur respect is no way corroborated and intact

in

> > my views, i m also thankful to u for the remedies and mantras u

provided

> > to me, even if that dont work, i will have same respect for u but u

are

> > completely wrong at ur part in ur dealings. Pls. check ur dasha and

> > antardasha, something wrong somewhere.

> >

> > regards,

> > Lalit.

> >

> > vedic astrology

> > <vedic astrology%40>, " dakshinastrologer "

> > <dakshinastrologer@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Members:

> > >

> > > I am posting an extract of the interaction between myself and one

of

> > > this list members who wanted a prediction from me. I have given

him

> > > counselling based on his horoscope and also based on a prashna

> > > chart. Marital chart showed marital delays and problem with love

> > > matters which he has already experienced. The prashna chart showed

> > > the possibility of " Paisacha baadha " (trouble due to ghostly

> > > entities that block happiness in the family). I had taken this

> > > matter into account and not wanting to scare the member

> > > unnecessarily, I had not divulged the matter to him. Instead, I

> > > suggested beeja mantras to counteract that effect and also

> > > suggested " Sumangali Pooja " to be performed. He later came back to

> > > me and asked about the ghostly events himself because his family

> > > members have had visitations from that entity. I replied back

> > > saying that I have already taken that factor into account while

> > > giving my suggestions.

> > >

> > > The prashna chart showed that the entity is likely to leave the

> > > Earth Plane by this year end and so it cannot trouble him any

> > > longer. So, based on that and also based on his horoscope, and

> > > having faith in the remedies I had suggested, I had predicted

> > > possibility of marriage in Feb 2008 or in 2009. Actually, dasa-

> > > bhukti and transit influences are quite tough and contradictory

for

> > > this event and I had taken so many factors and balanced/counter-

> > > balanced so many possibilities and had predicted the date as a

> > > Benediction; let the marriage happen in Feb 2008! I had even gone

> > > to the extent of suggesting attitude modification (he may not get

a

> > > wife of his expectations) for the marriage to happen; or else it

> > > might even be denied.

> > >

> > > Now, the member has been persisting about sharing the prashna

chart

> > > with him. I had given him broad hints about why I though Paisacha

> > > baadha was there for him; but he insists that I share the prashna

> > > chart and give the complete details to him, or else I am unfair!

My

> > > reservation regarding this is that prashna is an advanced

> > > application and sharing its techniques offhand may be confusing

and

> > > may lead the native into reading too much into each prashna chart

> > > and fear paisacha baadha when infact it might not be there at all!

> > > He does not understand me and is getting at me prompting me to

write

> > > mail after mail and I am at my patience's end! If I spend

pointless

> > > time debating like this with one person how can I serve

> > > others.....Why does not this member understand this? Not sharing

> > > sensitive prashna charts is a hallowed tradition... ...Am I not

> > > justified in my action when I have acted in the best interests of

> > > the member?

> > >

> > > I am posting the latest exchange between us for your reference. I

> > > request those who are knowledgeable in authentic prashna

traditions

> > > to write to the member (He is the person who is cutting and

pasting

> > > the Garga Hora in this list) telling him that I am justified in my

> > > stand, and I am doing it in the best interests. He does not

> > > understand the danger of maintaining the prashna chart indicating

a

> > > paisacha baadha which is inauspicious! I am pained by his words

> > > like " Your are hiding something; hiding things is not a sign of

> > > fairness " etc. It is almost like accusing me of being a cheat!

Again

> > > he comment on my professionalism; I am acting as per my

professional

> > > ethics; why is he - a novice imputing motives to me and commenting

> > > on my professionalism? Is this what an astrologer gets for his

> > > service?

> > >

> > > Below is the extract....

> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -

> > > Dear Shri. Lalith Mishra:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Unnecessary openness in the name of frankness is the bane of our

> > > society now-a-days. Will you go out in the nude on the public

roads

> > > just to prove you have nothing to hide? Asking advanced and unique

> > > predictive techniques of a practising professional persistently

even

> > > after he has denied access to that knowledge is very rude . The

> > > access to that knowledge was denied because it can be

misinterpreted

> > > and if you post that " technique " in the VA list, many other

members

> > > will get anxious (just as some members are wondering what is wrong

> > > with their horoscopes with the Garga Hora posting of yours!)

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > What do I have to gain by withholding information? I am too

> > > advanced in my profession to be taking advice from people

regarding

> > > what is the professional way of handling my clients. I have no

> > > malefic intentions, and your accusing me of being unfair is rude

(in

> > > fact each of your mails contains something or the other).

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I can assure you only one thing - I have acted in the best of

> > > intentions.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I am posting this in the VA list so that other learned members

might

> > > put some wisdom into you (I have failed in this with my repeated

> > > replies to you).

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Blessed be.

> > >

> > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > " Lalit Mishra, Noida " mlalit@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Res. Pandit Ji,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > On the one hand , I m thankful to you for all ur analysis and I

will

> > > follow ur instructions but on the other I must say don't seem fair

> > > enough in ur professional approach.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hiding things is not a sign of fairness.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > If I knew astrology, perhapse I w'd not have asked u for such

simple

> > > things or charts, required to keep in my records. My level is not

a

> > > constraint for u to share important charts, if tomorrow I need to

> > > contact u for sth, how I w'd do without any reference. If I ask u,

u

> > > should not hold things at ur's end and u don't gain any thing with

> > > ur approach.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Lalit Mishra.

> > >

> > > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= =========

> > ========= =

> > >

> >

> >

>

>

>

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Dear Lalith:

 

It is unfortunate that you had occasion to misunderstand Pandit

Dakshinamoorthiji of all persons! As I am from Kerala - the

Motherland of advanced predictive techniques, let me tell you

this.....

 

1) You have said nowhere in the vedangas it is documented about not

sharing prashna chart; let me tell you...nowhere in the vedangas

will you find mention of prashna at all! Natal chart is YOUR chart;

Prashna chart is not YOURS.

 

2) From what Panditji has written in his post, it is clear why he

was resisting sharing of prashna chart for your " Records " . Prashna

chart containing details of a ghostly entity is very inauspicious.

When these entities know that they have been found out, they start

acting out with vengeance. So, maintaining the prashna chart that

divulged its influence on you can be an open invitation for further

troubles. When persons of Panditji's stature denies you something

they will definitely have good reasons for doing so. Countless are

the occasions when senior astrologers have been attacked by entities

when they have discovered their existence. I honestly do not know

if Panditji himself was attacked and he is not sharing this with

you! It is quite possible and obviously he will get angry if you

keep on insisting about this matter without realizing the dangers

involved in this.

 

3) I do not think he has shared any private information about you

(he has not commented on your character or anything). He has also

not cut and paste the full prediction. He has just brought the case

before us so that someone can advice you. He has just wanted a

neutral observer's opinion as things seem to have reached a point of

stale repies and counter-replies between you. He has not crossed

his professional ethics.

 

4) In the name of transparency, if you want an operation theatre to

be open to all the relatives of the patient, will it be okay? In

the same way, certain things about occult sciences will always be

shrouded in mystery? That knowledge is definitely not for public

consumption.

 

Otherwise you would have seen Panditji explaining things clearly to

people.

 

Also, from my interactions with Panditji, let me tell you one thing

(let this be a guide to other members who seek his advice on a

professional/ honorary basis).......Panditji is very open and honest

in all his dealings and he will hide things only if the necessity

arises. If he avoids a consultation, definitely he has his own

reasons. He does not like being questioned about his methods and is

sensitive about that. Noone can be as soft and caring as Panditji in

his normal moods; but he does not like " personal " queries and will

not entertain them beyond certain levels; asking him persistent

personal questions can put him off. Otherwise, he is a sweet

gentleman with a kind heart - who spends hours writing on a honorary

basis in different forums inspite of his busy professional schedules

(so that people in different categories can get benefitted - he is

contributing in ammas.com also. Incidentally, you will find that he

is sharing prashna chart details most of the times there.....the

point is, he will share it if it can be shared). He works for more

than 16 hours per day due to all this, and obviously he can lose

patience if people fail to understand his genuine concerns. Please

do not misunderstand and judge him harshly.

 

Best wishes.

 

Abhishek.

 

vedic astrology , " litsol " <mishra.lalit

wrote:

>

>

> Dear Rafal,

>

> The issue is closed, however, u should have taken whole context in

mind.

>

> I dont think anywhere, it is documented in vedangas that one

should not

> be given a chart which is made for him and which is his chart.

>

> Being absolutely indifferent is very difficult. This is the age of

> openness and transparency, i saw it in your's approach when u

explain

> sth to a person, pandit ji was also doing same, still a unpleasant

> episode happened. which i never wished. Now he mailed be reasons

for not

> sharing my prashna chart with me, and i accepted the reason.

>

> regards,

> Lalit.

>

vedic astrology , Rafal Gendarz

<starsuponme@>

> wrote:

> >

> > *hraum namah adityaya*

> >

> > Dear Jyotishas

> >

> > Its obvious that Astrologer has the right to keep Prasna chart to

> > Himself. Client can ask for the chart, but if client demands it,

then

> > its rude and completely against Vedic Ettiquette. Im very sad

that

> these

> > kind of things are not crystal clear.

> >

> >

> >

> > Regards,

> > Rafal Gendarz

> > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > email: rafal@

> > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

> >

> > litsol napisa?(a):

> > >

> > >

> > > Pandit Ji,

> > >

> > > I bought a service and had a private communication, it's at

first

> sight

> > > wrong for u to post any part of private communication without

my

> > > consent.

> > >

> > > U cant imagine anything solely at ur end, if i myself gave u

hints

> of a

> > > possible obstacle due to spirit, how i m going to fear some

thing or

> the

> > > other. This should not be basis of not providing infomation.

> > >

> > > You are at advanced level, which is realized by many that's

why u

> are

> > > being contacted, but that u r into deciding everything in

profession

> one

> > > sided, can not be justified.

> > >

> > > Though, i wanted chart for keeping in my records, with no

doubts on

> u,

> > > ur apporach makes me think otherwise.

> > >

> > > In any profession, transparency is key to gain one's faith and

that

> u

> > > didn't bother this, on the basis of ur advanced level u pls.

dont

> > > justify what is incorrect, it's a pity that u make ur mood to

post

> > > private communication and at the same time, in ur reply to my

> private

> > > mail id, u accused me that i can post ur advanced technique in

the

> > > group, I dont know how to react.

> > >

> > > That's a clear contradiction, I was interested in the final

outcome

> > > which is chart, i should know that, and not in ur's technique

but u

> have

> > > made it a public issue instread of giving same to me.

> > >

> > > Why development of ancient knowledge has come to an end is

because

> of

> > > this fear which i dont know why some knowledgable people like u

> > > insttalled within.

> > >

> > > I wish to assure u that ur respect is no way corroborated and

intact

> in

> > > my views, i m also thankful to u for the remedies and mantras u

> provided

> > > to me, even if that dont work, i will have same respect for u

but u

> are

> > > completely wrong at ur part in ur dealings. Pls. check ur

dasha and

> > > antardasha, something wrong somewhere.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Lalit.

> > >

> > > vedic astrology

> > > <vedic astrology%40>, " dakshinastrologer "

> > > <dakshinastrologer@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Members:

> > > >

> > > > I am posting an extract of the interaction between myself

and one

> of

> > > > this list members who wanted a prediction from me. I have

given

> him

> > > > counselling based on his horoscope and also based on a

prashna

> > > > chart. Marital chart showed marital delays and problem with

love

> > > > matters which he has already experienced. The prashna chart

showed

> > > > the possibility of " Paisacha baadha " (trouble due to ghostly

> > > > entities that block happiness in the family). I had taken

this

> > > > matter into account and not wanting to scare the member

> > > > unnecessarily, I had not divulged the matter to him.

Instead, I

> > > > suggested beeja mantras to counteract that effect and also

> > > > suggested " Sumangali Pooja " to be performed. He later came

back to

> > > > me and asked about the ghostly events himself because his

family

> > > > members have had visitations from that entity. I replied back

> > > > saying that I have already taken that factor into account

while

> > > > giving my suggestions.

> > > >

> > > > The prashna chart showed that the entity is likely to leave

the

> > > > Earth Plane by this year end and so it cannot trouble him any

> > > > longer. So, based on that and also based on his horoscope,

and

> > > > having faith in the remedies I had suggested, I had predicted

> > > > possibility of marriage in Feb 2008 or in 2009. Actually,

dasa-

> > > > bhukti and transit influences are quite tough and

contradictory

> for

> > > > this event and I had taken so many factors and

balanced/counter-

> > > > balanced so many possibilities and had predicted the date as

a

> > > > Benediction; let the marriage happen in Feb 2008! I had even

gone

> > > > to the extent of suggesting attitude modification (he may

not get

> a

> > > > wife of his expectations) for the marriage to happen; or

else it

> > > > might even be denied.

> > > >

> > > > Now, the member has been persisting about sharing the prashna

> chart

> > > > with him. I had given him broad hints about why I though

Paisacha

> > > > baadha was there for him; but he insists that I share the

prashna

> > > > chart and give the complete details to him, or else I am

unfair!

> My

> > > > reservation regarding this is that prashna is an advanced

> > > > application and sharing its techniques offhand may be

confusing

> and

> > > > may lead the native into reading too much into each prashna

chart

> > > > and fear paisacha baadha when infact it might not be there

at all!

> > > > He does not understand me and is getting at me prompting me

to

> write

> > > > mail after mail and I am at my patience's end! If I spend

> pointless

> > > > time debating like this with one person how can I serve

> > > > others.....Why does not this member understand this? Not

sharing

> > > > sensitive prashna charts is a hallowed tradition... ...Am I

not

> > > > justified in my action when I have acted in the best

interests of

> > > > the member?

> > > >

> > > > I am posting the latest exchange between us for your

reference. I

> > > > request those who are knowledgeable in authentic prashna

> traditions

> > > > to write to the member (He is the person who is cutting and

> pasting

> > > > the Garga Hora in this list) telling him that I am justified

in my

> > > > stand, and I am doing it in the best interests. He does not

> > > > understand the danger of maintaining the prashna chart

indicating

> a

> > > > paisacha baadha which is inauspicious! I am pained by his

words

> > > > like " Your are hiding something; hiding things is not a sign

of

> > > > fairness " etc. It is almost like accusing me of being a

cheat!

> Again

> > > > he comment on my professionalism; I am acting as per my

> professional

> > > > ethics; why is he - a novice imputing motives to me and

commenting

> > > > on my professionalism? Is this what an astrologer gets for

his

> > > > service?

> > > >

> > > > Below is the extract....

> > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------

- -

> > > > Dear Shri. Lalith Mishra:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Unnecessary openness in the name of frankness is the bane of

our

> > > > society now-a-days. Will you go out in the nude on the public

> roads

> > > > just to prove you have nothing to hide? Asking advanced and

unique

> > > > predictive techniques of a practising professional

persistently

> even

> > > > after he has denied access to that knowledge is very rude .

The

> > > > access to that knowledge was denied because it can be

> misinterpreted

> > > > and if you post that " technique " in the VA list, many other

> members

> > > > will get anxious (just as some members are wondering what is

wrong

> > > > with their horoscopes with the Garga Hora posting of yours!)

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > What do I have to gain by withholding information? I am too

> > > > advanced in my profession to be taking advice from people

> regarding

> > > > what is the professional way of handling my clients. I have

no

> > > > malefic intentions, and your accusing me of being unfair is

rude

> (in

> > > > fact each of your mails contains something or the other).

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I can assure you only one thing - I have acted in the best of

> > > > intentions.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I am posting this in the VA list so that other learned

members

> might

> > > > put some wisdom into you (I have failed in this with my

repeated

> > > > replies to you).

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Blessed be.

> > > >

> > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > " Lalit Mishra, Noida " mlalit@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Res. Pandit Ji,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > On the one hand , I m thankful to you for all ur analysis

and I

> will

> > > > follow ur instructions but on the other I must say don't

seem fair

> > > > enough in ur professional approach.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hiding things is not a sign of fairness.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > If I knew astrology, perhapse I w'd not have asked u for such

> simple

> > > > things or charts, required to keep in my records. My level

is not

> a

> > > > constraint for u to share important charts, if tomorrow I

need to

> > > > contact u for sth, how I w'd do without any reference. If I

ask u,

> u

> > > > should not hold things at ur's end and u don't gain any

thing with

> > > > ur approach.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Lalit Mishra.

> > > >

> > > > ============ ========= ========= ========= =========

=========

> > > ========= =

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

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*hraum namah adityaya*

 

Dear Lalit,

 

Are You kidding? Prasna chart is not only client's chart, from twelfth

bhava You can read the life of astrologer. This is very intimate and

direct relationship with Ishta Devata, which You may be allowed to see,

but also may not - depending on wish of Jyotisha. However going to

astrologer or doctor demands fundamental knowledge about simple ethics,

trust me..this is simple but Rahu sometimes make it complicated and then

person is overinteligent. First chapters of Prasna Marga clearly shows

how this should be done. Indiffirence problem is associated with

complicated issues..this is very clear and obvious for all. Prasna chart

is intimate relationship with Divine Guidance of Astrologer. Please

approach astrologers with that stance.

 

 

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal

Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

 

litsol napisa?(a):

>

>

> Dear Rafal,

>

> The issue is closed, however, u should have taken whole context in mind.

>

> I dont think anywhere, it is documented in vedangas that one should not

> be given a chart which is made for him and which is his chart.

>

> Being absolutely indifferent is very difficult. This is the age of

> openness and transparency, i saw it in your's approach when u explain

> sth to a person, pandit ji was also doing same, still a unpleasant

> episode happened. which i never wished. Now he mailed be reasons for not

> sharing my prashna chart with me, and i accepted the reason.

>

> regards,

> Lalit.

>

> vedic astrology

> <vedic astrology%40>, Rafal Gendarz

> <starsuponme@ ...>

> wrote:

> >

> > *hraum namah adityaya*

> >

> > Dear Jyotishas

> >

> > Its obvious that Astrologer has the right to keep Prasna chart to

> > Himself. Client can ask for the chart, but if client demands it, then

> > its rude and completely against Vedic Ettiquette. Im very sad that

> these

> > kind of things are not crystal clear.

> >

> >

> >

> > Regards,

> > Rafal Gendarz

> > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > email: rafal

> > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> >

> > litsol napisa?(a):

> > >

> > >

> > > Pandit Ji,

> > >

> > > I bought a service and had a private communication, it's at first

> sight

> > > wrong for u to post any part of private communication without my

> > > consent.

> > >

> > > U cant imagine anything solely at ur end, if i myself gave u hints

> of a

> > > possible obstacle due to spirit, how i m going to fear some thing or

> the

> > > other. This should not be basis of not providing infomation.

> > >

> > > You are at advanced level, which is realized by many that's why u

> are

> > > being contacted, but that u r into deciding everything in profession

> one

> > > sided, can not be justified.

> > >

> > > Though, i wanted chart for keeping in my records, with no doubts on

> u,

> > > ur apporach makes me think otherwise.

> > >

> > > In any profession, transparency is key to gain one's faith and that

> u

> > > didn't bother this, on the basis of ur advanced level u pls. dont

> > > justify what is incorrect, it's a pity that u make ur mood to post

> > > private communication and at the same time, in ur reply to my

> private

> > > mail id, u accused me that i can post ur advanced technique in the

> > > group, I dont know how to react.

> > >

> > > That's a clear contradiction, I was interested in the final outcome

> > > which is chart, i should know that, and not in ur's technique but u

> have

> > > made it a public issue instread of giving same to me.

> > >

> > > Why development of ancient knowledge has come to an end is because

> of

> > > this fear which i dont know why some knowledgable people like u

> > > insttalled within.

> > >

> > > I wish to assure u that ur respect is no way corroborated and intact

> in

> > > my views, i m also thankful to u for the remedies and mantras u

> provided

> > > to me, even if that dont work, i will have same respect for u but u

> are

> > > completely wrong at ur part in ur dealings. Pls. check ur dasha and

> > > antardasha, something wrong somewhere.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Lalit.

> > >

> > > vedic astrology

> > > <vedic- astrology% 40. com>, " dakshinastrologer "

> > > <dakshinastrologer@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Members:

> > > >

> > > > I am posting an extract of the interaction between myself and one

> of

> > > > this list members who wanted a prediction from me. I have given

> him

> > > > counselling based on his horoscope and also based on a prashna

> > > > chart. Marital chart showed marital delays and problem with love

> > > > matters which he has already experienced. The prashna chart showed

> > > > the possibility of " Paisacha baadha " (trouble due to ghostly

> > > > entities that block happiness in the family). I had taken this

> > > > matter into account and not wanting to scare the member

> > > > unnecessarily, I had not divulged the matter to him. Instead, I

> > > > suggested beeja mantras to counteract that effect and also

> > > > suggested " Sumangali Pooja " to be performed. He later came back to

> > > > me and asked about the ghostly events himself because his family

> > > > members have had visitations from that entity. I replied back

> > > > saying that I have already taken that factor into account while

> > > > giving my suggestions.

> > > >

> > > > The prashna chart showed that the entity is likely to leave the

> > > > Earth Plane by this year end and so it cannot trouble him any

> > > > longer. So, based on that and also based on his horoscope, and

> > > > having faith in the remedies I had suggested, I had predicted

> > > > possibility of marriage in Feb 2008 or in 2009. Actually, dasa-

> > > > bhukti and transit influences are quite tough and contradictory

> for

> > > > this event and I had taken so many factors and balanced/counter-

> > > > balanced so many possibilities and had predicted the date as a

> > > > Benediction; let the marriage happen in Feb 2008! I had even gone

> > > > to the extent of suggesting attitude modification (he may not get

> a

> > > > wife of his expectations) for the marriage to happen; or else it

> > > > might even be denied.

> > > >

> > > > Now, the member has been persisting about sharing the prashna

> chart

> > > > with him. I had given him broad hints about why I though Paisacha

> > > > baadha was there for him; but he insists that I share the prashna

> > > > chart and give the complete details to him, or else I am unfair!

> My

> > > > reservation regarding this is that prashna is an advanced

> > > > application and sharing its techniques offhand may be confusing

> and

> > > > may lead the native into reading too much into each prashna chart

> > > > and fear paisacha baadha when infact it might not be there at all!

> > > > He does not understand me and is getting at me prompting me to

> write

> > > > mail after mail and I am at my patience's end! If I spend

> pointless

> > > > time debating like this with one person how can I serve

> > > > others.....Why does not this member understand this? Not sharing

> > > > sensitive prashna charts is a hallowed tradition... ...Am I not

> > > > justified in my action when I have acted in the best interests of

> > > > the member?

> > > >

> > > > I am posting the latest exchange between us for your reference. I

> > > > request those who are knowledgeable in authentic prashna

> traditions

> > > > to write to the member (He is the person who is cutting and

> pasting

> > > > the Garga Hora in this list) telling him that I am justified in my

> > > > stand, and I am doing it in the best interests. He does not

> > > > understand the danger of maintaining the prashna chart indicating

> a

> > > > paisacha baadha which is inauspicious! I am pained by his words

> > > > like " Your are hiding something; hiding things is not a sign of

> > > > fairness " etc. It is almost like accusing me of being a cheat!

> Again

> > > > he comment on my professionalism; I am acting as per my

> professional

> > > > ethics; why is he - a novice imputing motives to me and commenting

> > > > on my professionalism? Is this what an astrologer gets for his

> > > > service?

> > > >

> > > > Below is the extract....

> > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -

> > > > Dear Shri. Lalith Mishra:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Unnecessary openness in the name of frankness is the bane of our

> > > > society now-a-days. Will you go out in the nude on the public

> roads

> > > > just to prove you have nothing to hide? Asking advanced and unique

> > > > predictive techniques of a practising professional persistently

> even

> > > > after he has denied access to that knowledge is very rude . The

> > > > access to that knowledge was denied because it can be

> misinterpreted

> > > > and if you post that " technique " in the VA list, many other

> members

> > > > will get anxious (just as some members are wondering what is wrong

> > > > with their horoscopes with the Garga Hora posting of yours!)

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > What do I have to gain by withholding information? I am too

> > > > advanced in my profession to be taking advice from people

> regarding

> > > > what is the professional way of handling my clients. I have no

> > > > malefic intentions, and your accusing me of being unfair is rude

> (in

> > > > fact each of your mails contains something or the other).

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I can assure you only one thing - I have acted in the best of

> > > > intentions.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I am posting this in the VA list so that other learned members

> might

> > > > put some wisdom into you (I have failed in this with my repeated

> > > > replies to you).

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Blessed be.

> > > >

> > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > " Lalit Mishra, Noida " mlalit@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Res. Pandit Ji,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > On the one hand , I m thankful to you for all ur analysis and I

> will

> > > > follow ur instructions but on the other I must say don't seem fair

> > > > enough in ur professional approach.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hiding things is not a sign of fairness.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > If I knew astrology, perhapse I w'd not have asked u for such

> simple

> > > > things or charts, required to keep in my records. My level is not

> a

> > > > constraint for u to share important charts, if tomorrow I need to

> > > > contact u for sth, how I w'd do without any reference. If I ask u,

> u

> > > > should not hold things at ur's end and u don't gain any thing with

> > > > ur approach.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Lalit Mishra.

> > > >

> > > > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= =========

> > > ========= =

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

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Dear Abhishek,

 

Nice to see ur ideas, As i have closed the topic from my side, I dont

think i should comment further, still, i feel the need to tell u, among

knowledge,principle,practice,transparency,person,hesitation,ego, faith

and fear, pls. decide ur's sequence how u arrange these words, as per ur

viveka (Consciousness).

 

You happen to use a word " character " , if u know astrology, check it

properly in ur free time. Astrology is not fully developed science, So

many things still remains to be discovered, Let the astrology grow more.

OK.

 

Me and Pandit Ji has developed an understanding between us, as he has

informed me in seperate mail with blessings, And i m satisfied with

that.

 

Hope it's enough.

 

 

Regards,

Lalit.

 

 

vedic astrology , " abhishekpotti "

<abhishekpotti wrote:

>

> Dear Lalith:

>

> It is unfortunate that you had occasion to misunderstand Pandit

> Dakshinamoorthiji of all persons! As I am from Kerala - the

> Motherland of advanced predictive techniques, let me tell you

> this.....

>

> 1) You have said nowhere in the vedangas it is documented about not

> sharing prashna chart; let me tell you...nowhere in the vedangas

> will you find mention of prashna at all! Natal chart is YOUR chart;

> Prashna chart is not YOURS.

>

> 2) From what Panditji has written in his post, it is clear why he

> was resisting sharing of prashna chart for your " Records " . Prashna

> chart containing details of a ghostly entity is very inauspicious.

> When these entities know that they have been found out, they start

> acting out with vengeance. So, maintaining the prashna chart that

> divulged its influence on you can be an open invitation for further

> troubles. When persons of Panditji's stature denies you something

> they will definitely have good reasons for doing so. Countless are

> the occasions when senior astrologers have been attacked by entities

> when they have discovered their existence. I honestly do not know

> if Panditji himself was attacked and he is not sharing this with

> you! It is quite possible and obviously he will get angry if you

> keep on insisting about this matter without realizing the dangers

> involved in this.

>

> 3) I do not think he has shared any private information about you

> (he has not commented on your character or anything). He has also

> not cut and paste the full prediction. He has just brought the case

> before us so that someone can advice you. He has just wanted a

> neutral observer's opinion as things seem to have reached a point of

> stale repies and counter-replies between you. He has not crossed

> his professional ethics.

>

> 4) In the name of transparency, if you want an operation theatre to

> be open to all the relatives of the patient, will it be okay? In

> the same way, certain things about occult sciences will always be

> shrouded in mystery? That knowledge is definitely not for public

> consumption.

>

> Otherwise you would have seen Panditji explaining things clearly to

> people.

>

> Also, from my interactions with Panditji, let me tell you one thing

> (let this be a guide to other members who seek his advice on a

> professional/ honorary basis).......Panditji is very open and honest

> in all his dealings and he will hide things only if the necessity

> arises. If he avoids a consultation, definitely he has his own

> reasons. He does not like being questioned about his methods and is

> sensitive about that. Noone can be as soft and caring as Panditji in

> his normal moods; but he does not like " personal " queries and will

> not entertain them beyond certain levels; asking him persistent

> personal questions can put him off. Otherwise, he is a sweet

> gentleman with a kind heart - who spends hours writing on a honorary

> basis in different forums inspite of his busy professional schedules

> (so that people in different categories can get benefitted - he is

> contributing in ammas.com also. Incidentally, you will find that he

> is sharing prashna chart details most of the times there.....the

> point is, he will share it if it can be shared). He works for more

> than 16 hours per day due to all this, and obviously he can lose

> patience if people fail to understand his genuine concerns. Please

> do not misunderstand and judge him harshly.

>

> Best wishes.

>

> Abhishek.

>

> vedic astrology , " litsol " mishra.lalit@

> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Rafal,

> >

> > The issue is closed, however, u should have taken whole context in

> mind.

> >

> > I dont think anywhere, it is documented in vedangas that one

> should not

> > be given a chart which is made for him and which is his chart.

> >

> > Being absolutely indifferent is very difficult. This is the age of

> > openness and transparency, i saw it in your's approach when u

> explain

> > sth to a person, pandit ji was also doing same, still a unpleasant

> > episode happened. which i never wished. Now he mailed be reasons

> for not

> > sharing my prashna chart with me, and i accepted the reason.

> >

> > regards,

> > Lalit.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology , Rafal Gendarz

> <starsuponme@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > >

> > > Dear Jyotishas

> > >

> > > Its obvious that Astrologer has the right to keep Prasna chart to

> > > Himself. Client can ask for the chart, but if client demands it,

> then

> > > its rude and completely against Vedic Ettiquette. Im very sad

> that

> > these

> > > kind of things are not crystal clear.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > email: rafal@

> > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

> > >

> > > litsol napisa?(a):

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Pandit Ji,

> > > >

> > > > I bought a service and had a private communication, it's at

> first

> > sight

> > > > wrong for u to post any part of private communication without

> my

> > > > consent.

> > > >

> > > > U cant imagine anything solely at ur end, if i myself gave u

> hints

> > of a

> > > > possible obstacle due to spirit, how i m going to fear some

> thing or

> > the

> > > > other. This should not be basis of not providing infomation.

> > > >

> > > > You are at advanced level, which is realized by many that's

> why u

> > are

> > > > being contacted, but that u r into deciding everything in

> profession

> > one

> > > > sided, can not be justified.

> > > >

> > > > Though, i wanted chart for keeping in my records, with no

> doubts on

> > u,

> > > > ur apporach makes me think otherwise.

> > > >

> > > > In any profession, transparency is key to gain one's faith and

> that

> > u

> > > > didn't bother this, on the basis of ur advanced level u pls.

> dont

> > > > justify what is incorrect, it's a pity that u make ur mood to

> post

> > > > private communication and at the same time, in ur reply to my

> > private

> > > > mail id, u accused me that i can post ur advanced technique in

> the

> > > > group, I dont know how to react.

> > > >

> > > > That's a clear contradiction, I was interested in the final

> outcome

> > > > which is chart, i should know that, and not in ur's technique

> but u

> > have

> > > > made it a public issue instread of giving same to me.

> > > >

> > > > Why development of ancient knowledge has come to an end is

> because

> > of

> > > > this fear which i dont know why some knowledgable people like u

> > > > insttalled within.

> > > >

> > > > I wish to assure u that ur respect is no way corroborated and

> intact

> > in

> > > > my views, i m also thankful to u for the remedies and mantras u

> > provided

> > > > to me, even if that dont work, i will have same respect for u

> but u

> > are

> > > > completely wrong at ur part in ur dealings. Pls. check ur

> dasha and

> > > > antardasha, something wrong somewhere.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Lalit.

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology

> > > > <vedic astrology%40>, " dakshinastrologer "

> > > > <dakshinastrologer@ ...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Members:

> > > > >

> > > > > I am posting an extract of the interaction between myself

> and one

> > of

> > > > > this list members who wanted a prediction from me. I have

> given

> > him

> > > > > counselling based on his horoscope and also based on a

> prashna

> > > > > chart. Marital chart showed marital delays and problem with

> love

> > > > > matters which he has already experienced. The prashna chart

> showed

> > > > > the possibility of " Paisacha baadha " (trouble due to ghostly

> > > > > entities that block happiness in the family). I had taken

> this

> > > > > matter into account and not wanting to scare the member

> > > > > unnecessarily, I had not divulged the matter to him.

> Instead, I

> > > > > suggested beeja mantras to counteract that effect and also

> > > > > suggested " Sumangali Pooja " to be performed. He later came

> back to

> > > > > me and asked about the ghostly events himself because his

> family

> > > > > members have had visitations from that entity. I replied back

> > > > > saying that I have already taken that factor into account

> while

> > > > > giving my suggestions.

> > > > >

> > > > > The prashna chart showed that the entity is likely to leave

> the

> > > > > Earth Plane by this year end and so it cannot trouble him any

> > > > > longer. So, based on that and also based on his horoscope,

> and

> > > > > having faith in the remedies I had suggested, I had predicted

> > > > > possibility of marriage in Feb 2008 or in 2009. Actually,

> dasa-

> > > > > bhukti and transit influences are quite tough and

> contradictory

> > for

> > > > > this event and I had taken so many factors and

> balanced/counter-

> > > > > balanced so many possibilities and had predicted the date as

> a

> > > > > Benediction; let the marriage happen in Feb 2008! I had even

> gone

> > > > > to the extent of suggesting attitude modification (he may

> not get

> > a

> > > > > wife of his expectations) for the marriage to happen; or

> else it

> > > > > might even be denied.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now, the member has been persisting about sharing the prashna

> > chart

> > > > > with him. I had given him broad hints about why I though

> Paisacha

> > > > > baadha was there for him; but he insists that I share the

> prashna

> > > > > chart and give the complete details to him, or else I am

> unfair!

> > My

> > > > > reservation regarding this is that prashna is an advanced

> > > > > application and sharing its techniques offhand may be

> confusing

> > and

> > > > > may lead the native into reading too much into each prashna

> chart

> > > > > and fear paisacha baadha when infact it might not be there

> at all!

> > > > > He does not understand me and is getting at me prompting me

> to

> > write

> > > > > mail after mail and I am at my patience's end! If I spend

> > pointless

> > > > > time debating like this with one person how can I serve

> > > > > others.....Why does not this member understand this? Not

> sharing

> > > > > sensitive prashna charts is a hallowed tradition... ...Am I

> not

> > > > > justified in my action when I have acted in the best

> interests of

> > > > > the member?

> > > > >

> > > > > I am posting the latest exchange between us for your

> reference. I

> > > > > request those who are knowledgeable in authentic prashna

> > traditions

> > > > > to write to the member (He is the person who is cutting and

> > pasting

> > > > > the Garga Hora in this list) telling him that I am justified

> in my

> > > > > stand, and I am doing it in the best interests. He does not

> > > > > understand the danger of maintaining the prashna chart

> indicating

> > a

> > > > > paisacha baadha which is inauspicious! I am pained by his

> words

> > > > > like " Your are hiding something; hiding things is not a sign

> of

> > > > > fairness " etc. It is almost like accusing me of being a

> cheat!

> > Again

> > > > > he comment on my professionalism; I am acting as per my

> > professional

> > > > > ethics; why is he - a novice imputing motives to me and

> commenting

> > > > > on my professionalism? Is this what an astrologer gets for

> his

> > > > > service?

> > > > >

> > > > > Below is the extract....

> > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------

> - -

> > > > > Dear Shri. Lalith Mishra:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Unnecessary openness in the name of frankness is the bane of

> our

> > > > > society now-a-days. Will you go out in the nude on the public

> > roads

> > > > > just to prove you have nothing to hide? Asking advanced and

> unique

> > > > > predictive techniques of a practising professional

> persistently

> > even

> > > > > after he has denied access to that knowledge is very rude .

> The

> > > > > access to that knowledge was denied because it can be

> > misinterpreted

> > > > > and if you post that " technique " in the VA list, many other

> > members

> > > > > will get anxious (just as some members are wondering what is

> wrong

> > > > > with their horoscopes with the Garga Hora posting of yours!)

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > What do I have to gain by withholding information? I am too

> > > > > advanced in my profession to be taking advice from people

> > regarding

> > > > > what is the professional way of handling my clients. I have

> no

> > > > > malefic intentions, and your accusing me of being unfair is

> rude

> > (in

> > > > > fact each of your mails contains something or the other).

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > I can assure you only one thing - I have acted in the best of

> > > > > intentions.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > I am posting this in the VA list so that other learned

> members

> > might

> > > > > put some wisdom into you (I have failed in this with my

> repeated

> > > > > replies to you).

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Blessed be.

> > > > >

> > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > " Lalit Mishra, Noida " mlalit@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Res. Pandit Ji,

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > On the one hand , I m thankful to you for all ur analysis

> and I

> > will

> > > > > follow ur instructions but on the other I must say don't

> seem fair

> > > > > enough in ur professional approach.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Hiding things is not a sign of fairness.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > If I knew astrology, perhapse I w'd not have asked u for such

> > simple

> > > > > things or charts, required to keep in my records. My level

> is not

> > a

> > > > > constraint for u to share important charts, if tomorrow I

> need to

> > > > > contact u for sth, how I w'd do without any reference. If I

> ask u,

> > u

> > > > > should not hold things at ur's end and u don't gain any

> thing with

> > > > > ur approach.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Lalit Mishra.

> > > > >

> > > > > ============ ========= ========= ========= =========

> =========

> > > > ========= =

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Dear Lalith:

 

It is clear why Panditji would have been offended in the first

place.....even in this post, you have commented " Astrology is not a

fully developed science, and so many things still remain to be

discovered! " This sort of irreverential comment on a subject that

is his passion will definitely get on his nerves! In fact almost

any astrological expert will feel " Dwarfed " before the magnitude of

theories and axioms that are left to be explored. There is nothing

new to be " discovered " ; it is all there - well documented and ready

to be used - one life time will not be enough to master astrology.

By the way,I do know astrology, and hence my comments.

 

please avoid commenting on a subject without knowing its depth and

scope. That too in an astrological forum. Ask the members who have

benefitted from astrology - does it have gaps? In fact don't you

think Panditji's readings for you itself is a demonstration of the

prowess of astrology - how can he have known about the ghostly

disturbances in your family? Do you think that a subject that can

provide such an insight is incomplete? If you feel so, you are an

incurable pessimist.

 

If you consider the matter as closed, please avoid commenting on

that. On the contrary, you have said you consider the matter as

closed, and yet add an insulting comment on astrology - and besides

that a useless HR type of lecture which some half-baked softskills

trainer imparted to you (what did you try to tell by asking me to

group the attributes? There is no hint of your having accepted any

of the lengthy explanation I had given about prashna etiquettes)! My

small request to you - kindly never ever write like this to Pandit

Dakshinamoorthiji - he will definitely shoot back with long lectures

in his irritation.....No wonder, he has uncharacteristically shared

your exchange in the forum in his exasperation!

 

It was gracious of Panditji to have just blessed you and brought the

matter to an end - but have you learnt the nuances which he has

tried to impart to you regarding treatment of this subject? That is

more important and your post does not indicate a changed attitude.

 

Don't ever approach the Divine Subject of Astrology with a testing

attitude or as if it is imperfect.......It is bad karma. Learn the

vast subject from various view points - then you will know that

there is nothing new to add,but everything to learn. Panditji still

says he has much to learn - with all his knowledge! Senior

astrologers like Karunaakaramji feel they are still students! And

yet, you say this subject is still to evolve!......Rather than the

subject growing (it has already grown or even outgrown us!), the

awareness of etiquettes governing interactions with vedic

astrologers should grow. People should learn to respect learned

astrologers and not " appraise " them as if they are subordinates.

 

Best wishes.

Abhishek

 

vedic astrology , " litsol " <mishra.lalit

wrote:

>

>

> Dear Abhishek,

>

> Nice to see ur ideas, As i have closed the topic from my side, I

dont

> think i should comment further, still, i feel the need to tell u,

among

> knowledge,principle,practice,transparency,person,hesitation,ego,

faith

> and fear, pls. decide ur's sequence how u arrange these words, as

per ur

> viveka (Consciousness).

>

> You happen to use a word " character " , if u know astrology, check it

> properly in ur free time. Astrology is not fully developed

science, So

> many things still remains to be discovered, Let the astrology grow

more.

> OK.

>

> Me and Pandit Ji has developed an understanding between us, as he

has

> informed me in seperate mail with blessings, And i m satisfied with

> that.

>

> Hope it's enough.

>

>

> Regards,

> Lalit.

>

>

> vedic astrology , " abhishekpotti "

> <abhishekpotti@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Lalith:

> >

> > It is unfortunate that you had occasion to misunderstand Pandit

> > Dakshinamoorthiji of all persons! As I am from Kerala - the

> > Motherland of advanced predictive techniques, let me tell you

> > this.....

> >

> > 1) You have said nowhere in the vedangas it is documented about

not

> > sharing prashna chart; let me tell you...nowhere in the vedangas

> > will you find mention of prashna at all! Natal chart is YOUR

chart;

> > Prashna chart is not YOURS.

> >

> > 2) From what Panditji has written in his post, it is clear why he

> > was resisting sharing of prashna chart for your " Records " .

Prashna

> > chart containing details of a ghostly entity is very

inauspicious.

> > When these entities know that they have been found out, they

start

> > acting out with vengeance. So, maintaining the prashna chart that

> > divulged its influence on you can be an open invitation for

further

> > troubles. When persons of Panditji's stature denies you something

> > they will definitely have good reasons for doing so. Countless

are

> > the occasions when senior astrologers have been attacked by

entities

> > when they have discovered their existence. I honestly do not know

> > if Panditji himself was attacked and he is not sharing this with

> > you! It is quite possible and obviously he will get angry if you

> > keep on insisting about this matter without realizing the dangers

> > involved in this.

> >

> > 3) I do not think he has shared any private information about you

> > (he has not commented on your character or anything). He has also

> > not cut and paste the full prediction. He has just brought the

case

> > before us so that someone can advice you. He has just wanted a

> > neutral observer's opinion as things seem to have reached a

point of

> > stale repies and counter-replies between you. He has not crossed

> > his professional ethics.

> >

> > 4) In the name of transparency, if you want an operation theatre

to

> > be open to all the relatives of the patient, will it be okay? In

> > the same way, certain things about occult sciences will always be

> > shrouded in mystery? That knowledge is definitely not for public

> > consumption.

> >

> > Otherwise you would have seen Panditji explaining things clearly

to

> > people.

> >

> > Also, from my interactions with Panditji, let me tell you one

thing

> > (let this be a guide to other members who seek his advice on a

> > professional/ honorary basis).......Panditji is very open and

honest

> > in all his dealings and he will hide things only if the necessity

> > arises. If he avoids a consultation, definitely he has his own

> > reasons. He does not like being questioned about his methods and

is

> > sensitive about that. Noone can be as soft and caring as

Panditji in

> > his normal moods; but he does not like " personal " queries and

will

> > not entertain them beyond certain levels; asking him persistent

> > personal questions can put him off. Otherwise, he is a sweet

> > gentleman with a kind heart - who spends hours writing on a

honorary

> > basis in different forums inspite of his busy professional

schedules

> > (so that people in different categories can get benefitted - he

is

> > contributing in ammas.com also. Incidentally, you will find that

he

> > is sharing prashna chart details most of the times there.....the

> > point is, he will share it if it can be shared). He works for

more

> > than 16 hours per day due to all this, and obviously he can lose

> > patience if people fail to understand his genuine concerns.

Please

> > do not misunderstand and judge him harshly.

> >

> > Best wishes.

> >

> > Abhishek.

> >

> > vedic astrology , " litsol " mishra.lalit@

> > wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Rafal,

> > >

> > > The issue is closed, however, u should have taken whole

context in

> > mind.

> > >

> > > I dont think anywhere, it is documented in vedangas that one

> > should not

> > > be given a chart which is made for him and which is his chart.

> > >

> > > Being absolutely indifferent is very difficult. This is the

age of

> > > openness and transparency, i saw it in your's approach when u

> > explain

> > > sth to a person, pandit ji was also doing same, still a

unpleasant

> > > episode happened. which i never wished. Now he mailed be

reasons

> > for not

> > > sharing my prashna chart with me, and i accepted the reason.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Lalit.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > vedic astrology , Rafal Gendarz

> > <starsuponme@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > >

> > > > Dear Jyotishas

> > > >

> > > > Its obvious that Astrologer has the right to keep Prasna

chart to

> > > > Himself. Client can ask for the chart, but if client demands

it,

> > then

> > > > its rude and completely against Vedic Ettiquette. Im very sad

> > that

> > > these

> > > > kind of things are not crystal clear.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > email: rafal@

> > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

> > > >

> > > > litsol napisa?(a):

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Pandit Ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > I bought a service and had a private communication, it's at

> > first

> > > sight

> > > > > wrong for u to post any part of private communication

without

> > my

> > > > > consent.

> > > > >

> > > > > U cant imagine anything solely at ur end, if i myself gave

u

> > hints

> > > of a

> > > > > possible obstacle due to spirit, how i m going to fear some

> > thing or

> > > the

> > > > > other. This should not be basis of not providing

infomation.

> > > > >

> > > > > You are at advanced level, which is realized by many that's

> > why u

> > > are

> > > > > being contacted, but that u r into deciding everything in

> > profession

> > > one

> > > > > sided, can not be justified.

> > > > >

> > > > > Though, i wanted chart for keeping in my records, with no

> > doubts on

> > > u,

> > > > > ur apporach makes me think otherwise.

> > > > >

> > > > > In any profession, transparency is key to gain one's faith

and

> > that

> > > u

> > > > > didn't bother this, on the basis of ur advanced level u

pls.

> > dont

> > > > > justify what is incorrect, it's a pity that u make ur mood

to

> > post

> > > > > private communication and at the same time, in ur reply to

my

> > > private

> > > > > mail id, u accused me that i can post ur advanced

technique in

> > the

> > > > > group, I dont know how to react.

> > > > >

> > > > > That's a clear contradiction, I was interested in the final

> > outcome

> > > > > which is chart, i should know that, and not in ur's

technique

> > but u

> > > have

> > > > > made it a public issue instread of giving same to me.

> > > > >

> > > > > Why development of ancient knowledge has come to an end is

> > because

> > > of

> > > > > this fear which i dont know why some knowledgable people

like u

> > > > > insttalled within.

> > > > >

> > > > > I wish to assure u that ur respect is no way corroborated

and

> > intact

> > > in

> > > > > my views, i m also thankful to u for the remedies and

mantras u

> > > provided

> > > > > to me, even if that dont work, i will have same respect

for u

> > but u

> > > are

> > > > > completely wrong at ur part in ur dealings. Pls. check ur

> > dasha and

> > > > > antardasha, something wrong somewhere.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > Lalit.

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology

> > > > > <vedic astrology%

40>, " dakshinastrologer "

> > > > > <dakshinastrologer@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Members:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am posting an extract of the interaction between myself

> > and one

> > > of

> > > > > > this list members who wanted a prediction from me. I have

> > given

> > > him

> > > > > > counselling based on his horoscope and also based on a

> > prashna

> > > > > > chart. Marital chart showed marital delays and problem

with

> > love

> > > > > > matters which he has already experienced. The prashna

chart

> > showed

> > > > > > the possibility of " Paisacha baadha " (trouble due to

ghostly

> > > > > > entities that block happiness in the family). I had taken

> > this

> > > > > > matter into account and not wanting to scare the member

> > > > > > unnecessarily, I had not divulged the matter to him.

> > Instead, I

> > > > > > suggested beeja mantras to counteract that effect and

also

> > > > > > suggested " Sumangali Pooja " to be performed. He later

came

> > back to

> > > > > > me and asked about the ghostly events himself because his

> > family

> > > > > > members have had visitations from that entity. I replied

back

> > > > > > saying that I have already taken that factor into account

> > while

> > > > > > giving my suggestions.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The prashna chart showed that the entity is likely to

leave

> > the

> > > > > > Earth Plane by this year end and so it cannot trouble

him any

> > > > > > longer. So, based on that and also based on his

horoscope,

> > and

> > > > > > having faith in the remedies I had suggested, I had

predicted

> > > > > > possibility of marriage in Feb 2008 or in 2009. Actually,

> > dasa-

> > > > > > bhukti and transit influences are quite tough and

> > contradictory

> > > for

> > > > > > this event and I had taken so many factors and

> > balanced/counter-

> > > > > > balanced so many possibilities and had predicted the

date as

> > a

> > > > > > Benediction; let the marriage happen in Feb 2008! I had

even

> > gone

> > > > > > to the extent of suggesting attitude modification (he may

> > not get

> > > a

> > > > > > wife of his expectations) for the marriage to happen; or

> > else it

> > > > > > might even be denied.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Now, the member has been persisting about sharing the

prashna

> > > chart

> > > > > > with him. I had given him broad hints about why I though

> > Paisacha

> > > > > > baadha was there for him; but he insists that I share the

> > prashna

> > > > > > chart and give the complete details to him, or else I am

> > unfair!

> > > My

> > > > > > reservation regarding this is that prashna is an advanced

> > > > > > application and sharing its techniques offhand may be

> > confusing

> > > and

> > > > > > may lead the native into reading too much into each

prashna

> > chart

> > > > > > and fear paisacha baadha when infact it might not be

there

> > at all!

> > > > > > He does not understand me and is getting at me prompting

me

> > to

> > > write

> > > > > > mail after mail and I am at my patience's end! If I spend

> > > pointless

> > > > > > time debating like this with one person how can I serve

> > > > > > others.....Why does not this member understand this? Not

> > sharing

> > > > > > sensitive prashna charts is a hallowed

tradition... ...Am I

> > not

> > > > > > justified in my action when I have acted in the best

> > interests of

> > > > > > the member?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am posting the latest exchange between us for your

> > reference. I

> > > > > > request those who are knowledgeable in authentic prashna

> > > traditions

> > > > > > to write to the member (He is the person who is cutting

and

> > > pasting

> > > > > > the Garga Hora in this list) telling him that I am

justified

> > in my

> > > > > > stand, and I am doing it in the best interests. He does

not

> > > > > > understand the danger of maintaining the prashna chart

> > indicating

> > > a

> > > > > > paisacha baadha which is inauspicious! I am pained by his

> > words

> > > > > > like " Your are hiding something; hiding things is not a

sign

> > of

> > > > > > fairness " etc. It is almost like accusing me of being a

> > cheat!

> > > Again

> > > > > > he comment on my professionalism; I am acting as per my

> > > professional

> > > > > > ethics; why is he - a novice imputing motives to me and

> > commenting

> > > > > > on my professionalism? Is this what an astrologer gets

for

> > his

> > > > > > service?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Below is the extract....

> > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ----

----

> > - -

> > > > > > Dear Shri. Lalith Mishra:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Unnecessary openness in the name of frankness is the

bane of

> > our

> > > > > > society now-a-days. Will you go out in the nude on the

public

> > > roads

> > > > > > just to prove you have nothing to hide? Asking advanced

and

> > unique

> > > > > > predictive techniques of a practising professional

> > persistently

> > > even

> > > > > > after he has denied access to that knowledge is very

rude .

> > The

> > > > > > access to that knowledge was denied because it can be

> > > misinterpreted

> > > > > > and if you post that " technique " in the VA list, many

other

> > > members

> > > > > > will get anxious (just as some members are wondering

what is

> > wrong

> > > > > > with their horoscopes with the Garga Hora posting of

yours!)

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What do I have to gain by withholding information? I am

too

> > > > > > advanced in my profession to be taking advice from people

> > > regarding

> > > > > > what is the professional way of handling my clients. I

have

> > no

> > > > > > malefic intentions, and your accusing me of being unfair

is

> > rude

> > > (in

> > > > > > fact each of your mails contains something or the other).

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I can assure you only one thing - I have acted in the

best of

> > > > > > intentions.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am posting this in the VA list so that other learned

> > members

> > > might

> > > > > > put some wisdom into you (I have failed in this with my

> > repeated

> > > > > > replies to you).

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Blessed be.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > " Lalit Mishra, Noida " mlalit@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Res. Pandit Ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On the one hand , I m thankful to you for all ur analysis

> > and I

> > > will

> > > > > > follow ur instructions but on the other I must say don't

> > seem fair

> > > > > > enough in ur professional approach.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hiding things is not a sign of fairness.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > If I knew astrology, perhapse I w'd not have asked u for

such

> > > simple

> > > > > > things or charts, required to keep in my records. My

level

> > is not

> > > a

> > > > > > constraint for u to share important charts, if tomorrow I

> > need to

> > > > > > contact u for sth, how I w'd do without any reference.

If I

> > ask u,

> > > u

> > > > > > should not hold things at ur's end and u don't gain any

> > thing with

> > > > > > ur approach.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Lalit Mishra.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ============ ========= ========= ========= =========

> > =========

> > > > > ========= =

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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One would not consult a doctor for his physical ailments or a

psychiatrist for his mental ailments through internet.

 

Perhaps this is why many like Sri K.N. Rao strongly recommend against

seeking solutions to serious matters via internet and to use the time

tested procedure of face-to-face, in-person consultation.

 

Convenience gets in the way and causes more pain ultimately, and our

need to get the answer here and now, unfortunately ...

 

vedic astrology , " litsol " <mishra.lalit

wrote:

>

>

> Pandit Ji,

>

> I bought a service and had a private communication, it's at first

sight

> wrong for u to post any part of private communication without my

> consent.

>

> U cant imagine anything solely at ur end, if i myself gave u hints

of a

> possible obstacle due to spirit, how i m going to fear some thing

or the

> other. This should not be basis of not providing infomation.

>

> You are at advanced level, which is realized by many that's why u

are

> being contacted, but that u r into deciding everything in

profession one

> sided, can not be justified.

>

> Though, i wanted chart for keeping in my records, with no doubts on

u,

> ur apporach makes me think otherwise.

>

> In any profession, transparency is key to gain one's faith and

that u

> didn't bother this, on the basis of ur advanced level u pls. dont

> justify what is incorrect, it's a pity that u make ur mood to post

> private communication and at the same time, in ur reply to my

private

> mail id, u accused me that i can post ur advanced technique in the

> group, I dont know how to react.

>

> That's a clear contradiction, I was interested in the final outcome

> which is chart, i should know that, and not in ur's technique but u

have

> made it a public issue instread of giving same to me.

>

> Why development of ancient knowledge has come to an end is because

of

> this fear which i dont know why some knowledgable people like u

> insttalled within.

>

> I wish to assure u that ur respect is no way corroborated and

intact in

> my views, i m also thankful to u for the remedies and mantras u

provided

> to me, even if that dont work, i will have same respect for u but u

are

> completely wrong at ur part in ur dealings. Pls. check ur dasha and

> antardasha, something wrong somewhere.

>

> regards,

> Lalit.

>

>

>

> vedic astrology , " dakshinastrologer "

> <dakshinastrologer@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Members:

> >

> > I am posting an extract of the interaction between myself and one

of

> > this list members who wanted a prediction from me. I have given

him

> > counselling based on his horoscope and also based on a prashna

> > chart. Marital chart showed marital delays and problem with love

> > matters which he has already experienced. The prashna chart showed

> > the possibility of " Paisacha baadha " (trouble due to ghostly

> > entities that block happiness in the family). I had taken this

> > matter into account and not wanting to scare the member

> > unnecessarily, I had not divulged the matter to him. Instead, I

> > suggested beeja mantras to counteract that effect and also

> > suggested " Sumangali Pooja " to be performed. He later came back to

> > me and asked about the ghostly events himself because his family

> > members have had visitations from that entity. I replied back

> > saying that I have already taken that factor into account while

> > giving my suggestions.

> >

> > The prashna chart showed that the entity is likely to leave the

> > Earth Plane by this year end and so it cannot trouble him any

> > longer. So, based on that and also based on his horoscope, and

> > having faith in the remedies I had suggested, I had predicted

> > possibility of marriage in Feb 2008 or in 2009. Actually, dasa-

> > bhukti and transit influences are quite tough and contradictory

for

> > this event and I had taken so many factors and balanced/counter-

> > balanced so many possibilities and had predicted the date as a

> > Benediction; let the marriage happen in Feb 2008! I had even gone

> > to the extent of suggesting attitude modification (he may not get

a

> > wife of his expectations) for the marriage to happen; or else it

> > might even be denied.

> >

> > Now, the member has been persisting about sharing the prashna

chart

> > with him. I had given him broad hints about why I though Paisacha

> > baadha was there for him; but he insists that I share the prashna

> > chart and give the complete details to him, or else I am unfair!

My

> > reservation regarding this is that prashna is an advanced

> > application and sharing its techniques offhand may be confusing

and

> > may lead the native into reading too much into each prashna chart

> > and fear paisacha baadha when infact it might not be there at all!

> > He does not understand me and is getting at me prompting me to

write

> > mail after mail and I am at my patience's end! If I spend

pointless

> > time debating like this with one person how can I serve

> > others.....Why does not this member understand this? Not sharing

> > sensitive prashna charts is a hallowed tradition......Am I not

> > justified in my action when I have acted in the best interests of

> > the member?

> >

> > I am posting the latest exchange between us for your reference. I

> > request those who are knowledgeable in authentic prashna

traditions

> > to write to the member (He is the person who is cutting and

pasting

> > the Garga Hora in this list) telling him that I am justified in my

> > stand, and I am doing it in the best interests. He does not

> > understand the danger of maintaining the prashna chart indicating

a

> > paisacha baadha which is inauspicious! I am pained by his words

> > like " Your are hiding something; hiding things is not a sign of

> > fairness " etc. It is almost like accusing me of being a cheat!

Again

> > he comment on my professionalism; I am acting as per my

professional

> > ethics; why is he - a novice imputing motives to me and commenting

> > on my professionalism? Is this what an astrologer gets for his

> > service?

> >

> > Below is the extract....

> >

-

> > Dear Shri. Lalith Mishra:

> >

> >

> >

> > Unnecessary openness in the name of frankness is the bane of our

> > society now-a-days. Will you go out in the nude on the public

roads

> > just to prove you have nothing to hide? Asking advanced and unique

> > predictive techniques of a practising professional persistently

even

> > after he has denied access to that knowledge is very rude . The

> > access to that knowledge was denied because it can be

misinterpreted

> > and if you post that " technique " in the VA list, many other

members

> > will get anxious (just as some members are wondering what is wrong

> > with their horoscopes with the Garga Hora posting of yours!)

> >

> >

> >

> > What do I have to gain by withholding information? I am too

> > advanced in my profession to be taking advice from people

regarding

> > what is the professional way of handling my clients. I have no

> > malefic intentions, and your accusing me of being unfair is rude

(in

> > fact each of your mails contains something or the other).

> >

> >

> >

> > I can assure you only one thing - I have acted in the best of

> > intentions.

> >

> >

> >

> > I am posting this in the VA list so that other learned members

might

> > put some wisdom into you (I have failed in this with my repeated

> > replies to you).

> >

> >

> >

> > Blessed be.

> >

> > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > " Lalit Mishra, Noida " mlalit@ wrote:

> >

> > Res. Pandit Ji,

> >

> >

> >

> > On the one hand , I m thankful to you for all ur analysis and I

will

> > follow ur instructions but on the other I must say don't seem fair

> > enough in ur professional approach.

> >

> >

> >

> > Hiding things is not a sign of fairness.

> >

> >

> >

> > If I knew astrology, perhapse I w'd not have asked u for such

simple

> > things or charts, required to keep in my records. My level is not

a

> > constraint for u to share important charts, if tomorrow I need to

> > contact u for sth, how I w'd do without any reference. If I ask

u, u

> > should not hold things at ur's end and u don't gain any thing with

> > ur approach.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Regards,

> > Lalit Mishra.

> >

> >

===================================================================

> >

>

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Any astrological patterns emerging here without divulging too

specific information?

 

Such as saturn rising in nativity's chart in maleficience, etc.??

 

Just wondering ...

 

vedic astrology , " dakshinastrologer "

<dakshinastrologer wrote:

>

> Dear Shri. Lalith Sharma:

>

> I have not divulged the part of the " paid service " in any form

> whatsoever. I had given you detailed analysis on marital prospects -

 

> none of which I have placed before the forum.

>

> It is only the offhand message you were pestering me with that I

had

> shared with this august forum of astrologers. I have never

> compromised the privacy of any of my clients before nor will I in

> the future.

>

> I had only shared relevant information which might be required for

> senior members of this forum to give their opinion on that.

>

> Believe me, writing 10 mails within the space of 2 days and that

too

> harping on the same topic without heeding to the polite requests of

> others is really maddening if you are a recipient of those mails.

> You forced me to share the mail.

>

> In fact, I have written another private mail also to you advising

> you on the remedies. I have not shared it here. I might be angry

> or upset with anyone; but I will never shrink from my duties.

>

> Blessed be.

> Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

>

>

> vedic astrology , " litsol " <mishra.lalit@>

> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Pandit Ji,

> >

> > I bought a service and had a private communication, it's at first

> sight

> > wrong for u to post any part of private communication without my

> > consent.

> >

> > U cant imagine anything solely at ur end, if i myself gave u

> hints of a

> > possible obstacle due to spirit, how i m going to fear some thing

> or the

> > other. This should not be basis of not providing infomation.

> >

> > You are at advanced level, which is realized by many that's why u

> are

> > being contacted, but that u r into deciding everything in

> profession one

> > sided, can not be justified.

> >

> > Though, i wanted chart for keeping in my records, with no doubts

> on u,

> > ur apporach makes me think otherwise.

> >

> > In any profession, transparency is key to gain one's faith and

> that u

> > didn't bother this, on the basis of ur advanced level u pls. dont

> > justify what is incorrect, it's a pity that u make ur mood to

post

> > private communication and at the same time, in ur reply to my

> private

> > mail id, u accused me that i can post ur advanced technique in the

> > group, I dont know how to react.

> >

> > That's a clear contradiction, I was interested in the final

> outcome

> > which is chart, i should know that, and not in ur's technique but

> u have

> > made it a public issue instread of giving same to me.

> >

> > Why development of ancient knowledge has come to an end is

> because of

> > this fear which i dont know why some knowledgable people like u

> > insttalled within.

> >

> > I wish to assure u that ur respect is no way corroborated and

> intact in

> > my views, i m also thankful to u for the remedies and mantras u

> provided

> > to me, even if that dont work, i will have same respect for u but

> u are

> > completely wrong at ur part in ur dealings. Pls. check ur dasha

and

> > antardasha, something wrong somewhere.

> >

> > regards,

> > Lalit.

> >

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology , " dakshinastrologer "

> > <dakshinastrologer@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Members:

> > >

> > > I am posting an extract of the interaction between myself and

> one of

> > > this list members who wanted a prediction from me. I have given

> him

> > > counselling based on his horoscope and also based on a prashna

> > > chart. Marital chart showed marital delays and problem with love

> > > matters which he has already experienced. The prashna chart

> showed

> > > the possibility of " Paisacha baadha " (trouble due to ghostly

> > > entities that block happiness in the family). I had taken this

> > > matter into account and not wanting to scare the member

> > > unnecessarily, I had not divulged the matter to him. Instead, I

> > > suggested beeja mantras to counteract that effect and also

> > > suggested " Sumangali Pooja " to be performed. He later came back

> to

> > > me and asked about the ghostly events himself because his family

> > > members have had visitations from that entity. I replied back

> > > saying that I have already taken that factor into account while

> > > giving my suggestions.

> > >

> > > The prashna chart showed that the entity is likely to leave the

> > > Earth Plane by this year end and so it cannot trouble him any

> > > longer. So, based on that and also based on his horoscope, and

> > > having faith in the remedies I had suggested, I had predicted

> > > possibility of marriage in Feb 2008 or in 2009. Actually, dasa-

> > > bhukti and transit influences are quite tough and contradictory

> for

> > > this event and I had taken so many factors and balanced/counter-

> > > balanced so many possibilities and had predicted the date as a

> > > Benediction; let the marriage happen in Feb 2008! I had even

gone

> > > to the extent of suggesting attitude modification (he may not

> get a

> > > wife of his expectations) for the marriage to happen; or else it

> > > might even be denied.

> > >

> > > Now, the member has been persisting about sharing the prashna

> chart

> > > with him. I had given him broad hints about why I though

Paisacha

> > > baadha was there for him; but he insists that I share the

prashna

> > > chart and give the complete details to him, or else I am

unfair!

> My

> > > reservation regarding this is that prashna is an advanced

> > > application and sharing its techniques offhand may be confusing

> and

> > > may lead the native into reading too much into each prashna

chart

> > > and fear paisacha baadha when infact it might not be there at

> all!

> > > He does not understand me and is getting at me prompting me to

> write

> > > mail after mail and I am at my patience's end! If I spend

> pointless

> > > time debating like this with one person how can I serve

> > > others.....Why does not this member understand this? Not sharing

> > > sensitive prashna charts is a hallowed tradition......Am I not

> > > justified in my action when I have acted in the best interests

of

> > > the member?

> > >

> > > I am posting the latest exchange between us for your reference.

I

> > > request those who are knowledgeable in authentic prashna

> traditions

> > > to write to the member (He is the person who is cutting and

> pasting

> > > the Garga Hora in this list) telling him that I am justified in

> my

> > > stand, and I am doing it in the best interests. He does not

> > > understand the danger of maintaining the prashna chart

> indicating a

> > > paisacha baadha which is inauspicious! I am pained by his words

> > > like " Your are hiding something; hiding things is not a sign of

> > > fairness " etc. It is almost like accusing me of being a cheat!

> Again

> > > he comment on my professionalism; I am acting as per my

> professional

> > > ethics; why is he - a novice imputing motives to me and

> commenting

> > > on my professionalism? Is this what an astrologer gets for his

> > > service?

> > >

> > > Below is the extract....

> > > -------------------------------

-

> --

> > > Dear Shri. Lalith Mishra:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Unnecessary openness in the name of frankness is the bane of our

> > > society now-a-days. Will you go out in the nude on the public

> roads

> > > just to prove you have nothing to hide? Asking advanced and

> unique

> > > predictive techniques of a practising professional persistently

> even

> > > after he has denied access to that knowledge is very rude . The

> > > access to that knowledge was denied because it can be

> misinterpreted

> > > and if you post that " technique " in the VA list, many other

> members

> > > will get anxious (just as some members are wondering what is

> wrong

> > > with their horoscopes with the Garga Hora posting of yours!)

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > What do I have to gain by withholding information? I am too

> > > advanced in my profession to be taking advice from people

> regarding

> > > what is the professional way of handling my clients. I have no

> > > malefic intentions, and your accusing me of being unfair is

rude

> (in

> > > fact each of your mails contains something or the other).

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I can assure you only one thing - I have acted in the best of

> > > intentions.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I am posting this in the VA list so that other learned members

> might

> > > put some wisdom into you (I have failed in this with my repeated

> > > replies to you).

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Blessed be.

> > >

> > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > " Lalit Mishra, Noida " mlalit@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Res. Pandit Ji,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > On the one hand , I m thankful to you for all ur analysis and I

> will

> > > follow ur instructions but on the other I must say don't seem

> fair

> > > enough in ur professional approach.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hiding things is not a sign of fairness.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > If I knew astrology, perhapse I w'd not have asked u for such

> simple

> > > things or charts, required to keep in my records. My level is

> not a

> > > constraint for u to share important charts, if tomorrow I need

to

> > > contact u for sth, how I w'd do without any reference. If I ask

> u, u

> > > should not hold things at ur's end and u don't gain any thing

> with

> > > ur approach.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Lalit Mishra.

> > >

> > >

> ===================================================================

> > >

> >

>

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Dear primusjyotish,

 

You are right, in fact differences begane, when i asked Pandit Ji's

phone nos to communicate to him, he refused to give his nos, I was

surprised, being a client, paying for the consultation a clear

communication is required, so at least a communication over phone

should happen, It was refused, he recommened a mantra, i was not clear

on it's pronunciation, the rerequest to tell right pronunciation over

phone was also refused, then a copy of charts made was refused.

 

I didnt come to group for so many refusals.

 

And there were two contradictory explanations , the timing given was

very wide for an event - one year and it was said that it's conditional

too, I was not understanding what to conclude and then pandit Ji posted

my private communication partly in the group. Later, pandit ji provided

me sound files of the mantras, ok, my confusion on pronunciation

removed.

 

Now, it is over, and i dont want to discuss it further.

 

regards,

Lalit.

 

 

vedic astrology , " Jyotish Volunteers "

<primusjyotishi wrote:

>

> One would not consult a doctor for his physical ailments or a

> psychiatrist for his mental ailments through internet.

>

> Perhaps this is why many like Sri K.N. Rao strongly recommend against

> seeking solutions to serious matters via internet and to use the time

> tested procedure of face-to-face, in-person consultation.

>

> Convenience gets in the way and causes more pain ultimately, and our

> need to get the answer here and now, unfortunately ...

>

> vedic astrology , " litsol " mishra.lalit@

> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Pandit Ji,

> >

> > I bought a service and had a private communication, it's at first

> sight

> > wrong for u to post any part of private communication without my

> > consent.

> >

> > U cant imagine anything solely at ur end, if i myself gave u hints

> of a

> > possible obstacle due to spirit, how i m going to fear some thing

> or the

> > other. This should not be basis of not providing infomation.

> >

> > You are at advanced level, which is realized by many that's why u

> are

> > being contacted, but that u r into deciding everything in

> profession one

> > sided, can not be justified.

> >

> > Though, i wanted chart for keeping in my records, with no doubts on

> u,

> > ur apporach makes me think otherwise.

> >

> > In any profession, transparency is key to gain one's faith and

> that u

> > didn't bother this, on the basis of ur advanced level u pls. dont

> > justify what is incorrect, it's a pity that u make ur mood to post

> > private communication and at the same time, in ur reply to my

> private

> > mail id, u accused me that i can post ur advanced technique in the

> > group, I dont know how to react.

> >

> > That's a clear contradiction, I was interested in the final outcome

> > which is chart, i should know that, and not in ur's technique but u

> have

> > made it a public issue instread of giving same to me.

> >

> > Why development of ancient knowledge has come to an end is because

> of

> > this fear which i dont know why some knowledgable people like u

> > insttalled within.

> >

> > I wish to assure u that ur respect is no way corroborated and

> intact in

> > my views, i m also thankful to u for the remedies and mantras u

> provided

> > to me, even if that dont work, i will have same respect for u but u

> are

> > completely wrong at ur part in ur dealings. Pls. check ur dasha and

> > antardasha, something wrong somewhere.

> >

> > regards,

> > Lalit.

> >

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology , " dakshinastrologer "

> > <dakshinastrologer@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Members:

> > >

> > > I am posting an extract of the interaction between myself and one

> of

> > > this list members who wanted a prediction from me. I have given

> him

> > > counselling based on his horoscope and also based on a prashna

> > > chart. Marital chart showed marital delays and problem with love

> > > matters which he has already experienced. The prashna chart showed

> > > the possibility of " Paisacha baadha " (trouble due to ghostly

> > > entities that block happiness in the family). I had taken this

> > > matter into account and not wanting to scare the member

> > > unnecessarily, I had not divulged the matter to him. Instead, I

> > > suggested beeja mantras to counteract that effect and also

> > > suggested " Sumangali Pooja " to be performed. He later came back to

> > > me and asked about the ghostly events himself because his family

> > > members have had visitations from that entity. I replied back

> > > saying that I have already taken that factor into account while

> > > giving my suggestions.

> > >

> > > The prashna chart showed that the entity is likely to leave the

> > > Earth Plane by this year end and so it cannot trouble him any

> > > longer. So, based on that and also based on his horoscope, and

> > > having faith in the remedies I had suggested, I had predicted

> > > possibility of marriage in Feb 2008 or in 2009. Actually, dasa-

> > > bhukti and transit influences are quite tough and contradictory

> for

> > > this event and I had taken so many factors and balanced/counter-

> > > balanced so many possibilities and had predicted the date as a

> > > Benediction; let the marriage happen in Feb 2008! I had even gone

> > > to the extent of suggesting attitude modification (he may not get

> a

> > > wife of his expectations) for the marriage to happen; or else it

> > > might even be denied.

> > >

> > > Now, the member has been persisting about sharing the prashna

> chart

> > > with him. I had given him broad hints about why I though Paisacha

> > > baadha was there for him; but he insists that I share the prashna

> > > chart and give the complete details to him, or else I am unfair!

> My

> > > reservation regarding this is that prashna is an advanced

> > > application and sharing its techniques offhand may be confusing

> and

> > > may lead the native into reading too much into each prashna chart

> > > and fear paisacha baadha when infact it might not be there at all!

> > > He does not understand me and is getting at me prompting me to

> write

> > > mail after mail and I am at my patience's end! If I spend

> pointless

> > > time debating like this with one person how can I serve

> > > others.....Why does not this member understand this? Not sharing

> > > sensitive prashna charts is a hallowed tradition......Am I not

> > > justified in my action when I have acted in the best interests of

> > > the member?

> > >

> > > I am posting the latest exchange between us for your reference. I

> > > request those who are knowledgeable in authentic prashna

> traditions

> > > to write to the member (He is the person who is cutting and

> pasting

> > > the Garga Hora in this list) telling him that I am justified in my

> > > stand, and I am doing it in the best interests. He does not

> > > understand the danger of maintaining the prashna chart indicating

> a

> > > paisacha baadha which is inauspicious! I am pained by his words

> > > like " Your are hiding something; hiding things is not a sign of

> > > fairness " etc. It is almost like accusing me of being a cheat!

> Again

> > > he comment on my professionalism; I am acting as per my

> professional

> > > ethics; why is he - a novice imputing motives to me and commenting

> > > on my professionalism? Is this what an astrologer gets for his

> > > service?

> > >

> > > Below is the extract....

> > >

> -

> > > Dear Shri. Lalith Mishra:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Unnecessary openness in the name of frankness is the bane of our

> > > society now-a-days. Will you go out in the nude on the public

> roads

> > > just to prove you have nothing to hide? Asking advanced and unique

> > > predictive techniques of a practising professional persistently

> even

> > > after he has denied access to that knowledge is very rude . The

> > > access to that knowledge was denied because it can be

> misinterpreted

> > > and if you post that " technique " in the VA list, many other

> members

> > > will get anxious (just as some members are wondering what is wrong

> > > with their horoscopes with the Garga Hora posting of yours!)

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > What do I have to gain by withholding information? I am too

> > > advanced in my profession to be taking advice from people

> regarding

> > > what is the professional way of handling my clients. I have no

> > > malefic intentions, and your accusing me of being unfair is rude

> (in

> > > fact each of your mails contains something or the other).

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I can assure you only one thing - I have acted in the best of

> > > intentions.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I am posting this in the VA list so that other learned members

> might

> > > put some wisdom into you (I have failed in this with my repeated

> > > replies to you).

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Blessed be.

> > >

> > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > " Lalit Mishra, Noida " mlalit@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Res. Pandit Ji,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > On the one hand , I m thankful to you for all ur analysis and I

> will

> > > follow ur instructions but on the other I must say don't seem fair

> > > enough in ur professional approach.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hiding things is not a sign of fairness.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > If I knew astrology, perhapse I w'd not have asked u for such

> simple

> > > things or charts, required to keep in my records. My level is not

> a

> > > constraint for u to share important charts, if tomorrow I need to

> > > contact u for sth, how I w'd do without any reference. If I ask

> u, u

> > > should not hold things at ur's end and u don't gain any thing with

> > > ur approach.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Lalit Mishra.

> > >

> > >

> ===================================================================

> > >

> >

>

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Abhishek,

 

Saying - " " Astrology is not a fully developed science, and so many

things still remain to be

discovered! "

 

Is no way an offend, It's a realization of urge to develop and update

the science,

 

Pls. admit that continuous discoveries are life to a subject, What do

u mean by " Divine Subject " , See, Any subject which deals with well

being of people is equally divine be it medical science or engineering

or astrology,

 

If u read more vedic shastras, u will come to know that Mathmatics,

Engineering, Ayurved, Astronomy and various arts , everything has a

reference in shastras, so dont single out only astrology, In fact,

knowledge of any subject is divine.

 

Growth and Development of so many subject is blocked by declaring this

way - " Divine " . There are so many cases where astrologer finds him no

where, not able to fix any thing, and so many things which came to our

knowledge recently like several moons of saturn, jupitor etc has not got

consideration in traditional astrology, which may or many not have

effective role in one's fate.

 

Some astrologers follow 360 savana days wherwas some 365 days, even its

not very clear.

 

Pls. open up a little, however, i admit, majorly it is well defined

subject, I know that's why i went for a consultation and pandit ji spent

time for me.

 

regards,

Lalit.

 

 

vedic astrology , " abhishekpotti "

<abhishekpotti wrote:

>

> Dear Lalith:

>

> It is clear why Panditji would have been offended in the first

> place.....even in this post, you have commented " Astrology is not a

> fully developed science, and so many things still remain to be

> discovered! " This sort of irreverential comment on a subject that

> is his passion will definitely get on his nerves! In fact almost

> any astrological expert will feel " Dwarfed " before the magnitude of

> theories and axioms that are left to be explored. There is nothing

> new to be " discovered " ; it is all there - well documented and ready

> to be used - one life time will not be enough to master astrology.

> By the way,I do know astrology, and hence my comments.

>

> please avoid commenting on a subject without knowing its depth and

> scope. That too in an astrological forum. Ask the members who have

> benefitted from astrology - does it have gaps? In fact don't you

> think Panditji's readings for you itself is a demonstration of the

> prowess of astrology - how can he have known about the ghostly

> disturbances in your family? Do you think that a subject that can

> provide such an insight is incomplete? If you feel so, you are an

> incurable pessimist.

>

> If you consider the matter as closed, please avoid commenting on

> that. On the contrary, you have said you consider the matter as

> closed, and yet add an insulting comment on astrology - and besides

> that a useless HR type of lecture which some half-baked softskills

> trainer imparted to you (what did you try to tell by asking me to

> group the attributes? There is no hint of your having accepted any

> of the lengthy explanation I had given about prashna etiquettes)! My

> small request to you - kindly never ever write like this to Pandit

> Dakshinamoorthiji - he will definitely shoot back with long lectures

> in his irritation.....No wonder, he has uncharacteristically shared

> your exchange in the forum in his exasperation!

>

> It was gracious of Panditji to have just blessed you and brought the

> matter to an end - but have you learnt the nuances which he has

> tried to impart to you regarding treatment of this subject? That is

> more important and your post does not indicate a changed attitude.

>

> Don't ever approach the Divine Subject of Astrology with a testing

> attitude or as if it is imperfect.......It is bad karma. Learn the

> vast subject from various view points - then you will know that

> there is nothing new to add,but everything to learn. Panditji still

> says he has much to learn - with all his knowledge! Senior

> astrologers like Karunaakaramji feel they are still students! And

> yet, you say this subject is still to evolve!......Rather than the

> subject growing (it has already grown or even outgrown us!), the

> awareness of etiquettes governing interactions with vedic

> astrologers should grow. People should learn to respect learned

> astrologers and not " appraise " them as if they are subordinates.

>

> Best wishes.

> Abhishek

>

> vedic astrology , " litsol " mishra.lalit@

> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Abhishek,

> >

> > Nice to see ur ideas, As i have closed the topic from my side, I

> dont

> > think i should comment further, still, i feel the need to tell u,

> among

> > knowledge,principle,practice,transparency,person,hesitation,ego,

> faith

> > and fear, pls. decide ur's sequence how u arrange these words, as

> per ur

> > viveka (Consciousness).

> >

> > You happen to use a word " character " , if u know astrology, check it

> > properly in ur free time. Astrology is not fully developed

> science, So

> > many things still remains to be discovered, Let the astrology grow

> more.

> > OK.

> >

> > Me and Pandit Ji has developed an understanding between us, as he

> has

> > informed me in seperate mail with blessings, And i m satisfied with

> > that.

> >

> > Hope it's enough.

> >

> >

> > Regards,

> > Lalit.

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology , " abhishekpotti "

> > <abhishekpotti@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Lalith:

> > >

> > > It is unfortunate that you had occasion to misunderstand Pandit

> > > Dakshinamoorthiji of all persons! As I am from Kerala - the

> > > Motherland of advanced predictive techniques, let me tell you

> > > this.....

> > >

> > > 1) You have said nowhere in the vedangas it is documented about

> not

> > > sharing prashna chart; let me tell you...nowhere in the vedangas

> > > will you find mention of prashna at all! Natal chart is YOUR

> chart;

> > > Prashna chart is not YOURS.

> > >

> > > 2) From what Panditji has written in his post, it is clear why he

> > > was resisting sharing of prashna chart for your " Records " .

> Prashna

> > > chart containing details of a ghostly entity is very

> inauspicious.

> > > When these entities know that they have been found out, they

> start

> > > acting out with vengeance. So, maintaining the prashna chart that

> > > divulged its influence on you can be an open invitation for

> further

> > > troubles. When persons of Panditji's stature denies you something

> > > they will definitely have good reasons for doing so. Countless

> are

> > > the occasions when senior astrologers have been attacked by

> entities

> > > when they have discovered their existence. I honestly do not know

> > > if Panditji himself was attacked and he is not sharing this with

> > > you! It is quite possible and obviously he will get angry if you

> > > keep on insisting about this matter without realizing the dangers

> > > involved in this.

> > >

> > > 3) I do not think he has shared any private information about you

> > > (he has not commented on your character or anything). He has also

> > > not cut and paste the full prediction. He has just brought the

> case

> > > before us so that someone can advice you. He has just wanted a

> > > neutral observer's opinion as things seem to have reached a

> point of

> > > stale repies and counter-replies between you. He has not crossed

> > > his professional ethics.

> > >

> > > 4) In the name of transparency, if you want an operation theatre

> to

> > > be open to all the relatives of the patient, will it be okay? In

> > > the same way, certain things about occult sciences will always be

> > > shrouded in mystery? That knowledge is definitely not for public

> > > consumption.

> > >

> > > Otherwise you would have seen Panditji explaining things clearly

> to

> > > people.

> > >

> > > Also, from my interactions with Panditji, let me tell you one

> thing

> > > (let this be a guide to other members who seek his advice on a

> > > professional/ honorary basis).......Panditji is very open and

> honest

> > > in all his dealings and he will hide things only if the necessity

> > > arises. If he avoids a consultation, definitely he has his own

> > > reasons. He does not like being questioned about his methods and

> is

> > > sensitive about that. Noone can be as soft and caring as

> Panditji in

> > > his normal moods; but he does not like " personal " queries and

> will

> > > not entertain them beyond certain levels; asking him persistent

> > > personal questions can put him off. Otherwise, he is a sweet

> > > gentleman with a kind heart - who spends hours writing on a

> honorary

> > > basis in different forums inspite of his busy professional

> schedules

> > > (so that people in different categories can get benefitted - he

> is

> > > contributing in ammas.com also. Incidentally, you will find that

> he

> > > is sharing prashna chart details most of the times there.....the

> > > point is, he will share it if it can be shared). He works for

> more

> > > than 16 hours per day due to all this, and obviously he can lose

> > > patience if people fail to understand his genuine concerns.

> Please

> > > do not misunderstand and judge him harshly.

> > >

> > > Best wishes.

> > >

> > > Abhishek.

> > >

> > > vedic astrology , " litsol " mishra.lalit@

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > >

> > > > The issue is closed, however, u should have taken whole

> context in

> > > mind.

> > > >

> > > > I dont think anywhere, it is documented in vedangas that one

> > > should not

> > > > be given a chart which is made for him and which is his chart.

> > > >

> > > > Being absolutely indifferent is very difficult. This is the

> age of

> > > > openness and transparency, i saw it in your's approach when u

> > > explain

> > > > sth to a person, pandit ji was also doing same, still a

> unpleasant

> > > > episode happened. which i never wished. Now he mailed be

> reasons

> > > for not

> > > > sharing my prashna chart with me, and i accepted the reason.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Lalit.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology , Rafal Gendarz

> > > <starsuponme@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Jyotishas

> > > > >

> > > > > Its obvious that Astrologer has the right to keep Prasna

> chart to

> > > > > Himself. Client can ask for the chart, but if client demands

> it,

> > > then

> > > > > its rude and completely against Vedic Ettiquette. Im very sad

> > > that

> > > > these

> > > > > kind of things are not crystal clear.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > > email: rafal@

> > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

> > > > >

> > > > > litsol napisa?(a):

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Pandit Ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I bought a service and had a private communication, it's at

> > > first

> > > > sight

> > > > > > wrong for u to post any part of private communication

> without

> > > my

> > > > > > consent.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > U cant imagine anything solely at ur end, if i myself gave

> u

> > > hints

> > > > of a

> > > > > > possible obstacle due to spirit, how i m going to fear some

> > > thing or

> > > > the

> > > > > > other. This should not be basis of not providing

> infomation.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You are at advanced level, which is realized by many that's

> > > why u

> > > > are

> > > > > > being contacted, but that u r into deciding everything in

> > > profession

> > > > one

> > > > > > sided, can not be justified.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Though, i wanted chart for keeping in my records, with no

> > > doubts on

> > > > u,

> > > > > > ur apporach makes me think otherwise.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In any profession, transparency is key to gain one's faith

> and

> > > that

> > > > u

> > > > > > didn't bother this, on the basis of ur advanced level u

> pls.

> > > dont

> > > > > > justify what is incorrect, it's a pity that u make ur mood

> to

> > > post

> > > > > > private communication and at the same time, in ur reply to

> my

> > > > private

> > > > > > mail id, u accused me that i can post ur advanced

> technique in

> > > the

> > > > > > group, I dont know how to react.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > That's a clear contradiction, I was interested in the final

> > > outcome

> > > > > > which is chart, i should know that, and not in ur's

> technique

> > > but u

> > > > have

> > > > > > made it a public issue instread of giving same to me.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Why development of ancient knowledge has come to an end is

> > > because

> > > > of

> > > > > > this fear which i dont know why some knowledgable people

> like u

> > > > > > insttalled within.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I wish to assure u that ur respect is no way corroborated

> and

> > > intact

> > > > in

> > > > > > my views, i m also thankful to u for the remedies and

> mantras u

> > > > provided

> > > > > > to me, even if that dont work, i will have same respect

> for u

> > > but u

> > > > are

> > > > > > completely wrong at ur part in ur dealings. Pls. check ur

> > > dasha and

> > > > > > antardasha, something wrong somewhere.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > Lalit.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > vedic astrology

> > > > > > <vedic astrology%

> 40>, " dakshinastrologer "

> > > > > > <dakshinastrologer@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Members:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am posting an extract of the interaction between myself

> > > and one

> > > > of

> > > > > > > this list members who wanted a prediction from me. I have

> > > given

> > > > him

> > > > > > > counselling based on his horoscope and also based on a

> > > prashna

> > > > > > > chart. Marital chart showed marital delays and problem

> with

> > > love

> > > > > > > matters which he has already experienced. The prashna

> chart

> > > showed

> > > > > > > the possibility of " Paisacha baadha " (trouble due to

> ghostly

> > > > > > > entities that block happiness in the family). I had taken

> > > this

> > > > > > > matter into account and not wanting to scare the member

> > > > > > > unnecessarily, I had not divulged the matter to him.

> > > Instead, I

> > > > > > > suggested beeja mantras to counteract that effect and

> also

> > > > > > > suggested " Sumangali Pooja " to be performed. He later

> came

> > > back to

> > > > > > > me and asked about the ghostly events himself because his

> > > family

> > > > > > > members have had visitations from that entity. I replied

> back

> > > > > > > saying that I have already taken that factor into account

> > > while

> > > > > > > giving my suggestions.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The prashna chart showed that the entity is likely to

> leave

> > > the

> > > > > > > Earth Plane by this year end and so it cannot trouble

> him any

> > > > > > > longer. So, based on that and also based on his

> horoscope,

> > > and

> > > > > > > having faith in the remedies I had suggested, I had

> predicted

> > > > > > > possibility of marriage in Feb 2008 or in 2009. Actually,

> > > dasa-

> > > > > > > bhukti and transit influences are quite tough and

> > > contradictory

> > > > for

> > > > > > > this event and I had taken so many factors and

> > > balanced/counter-

> > > > > > > balanced so many possibilities and had predicted the

> date as

> > > a

> > > > > > > Benediction; let the marriage happen in Feb 2008! I had

> even

> > > gone

> > > > > > > to the extent of suggesting attitude modification (he may

> > > not get

> > > > a

> > > > > > > wife of his expectations) for the marriage to happen; or

> > > else it

> > > > > > > might even be denied.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now, the member has been persisting about sharing the

> prashna

> > > > chart

> > > > > > > with him. I had given him broad hints about why I though

> > > Paisacha

> > > > > > > baadha was there for him; but he insists that I share the

> > > prashna

> > > > > > > chart and give the complete details to him, or else I am

> > > unfair!

> > > > My

> > > > > > > reservation regarding this is that prashna is an advanced

> > > > > > > application and sharing its techniques offhand may be

> > > confusing

> > > > and

> > > > > > > may lead the native into reading too much into each

> prashna

> > > chart

> > > > > > > and fear paisacha baadha when infact it might not be

> there

> > > at all!

> > > > > > > He does not understand me and is getting at me prompting

> me

> > > to

> > > > write

> > > > > > > mail after mail and I am at my patience's end! If I spend

> > > > pointless

> > > > > > > time debating like this with one person how can I serve

> > > > > > > others.....Why does not this member understand this? Not

> > > sharing

> > > > > > > sensitive prashna charts is a hallowed

> tradition... ...Am I

> > > not

> > > > > > > justified in my action when I have acted in the best

> > > interests of

> > > > > > > the member?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am posting the latest exchange between us for your

> > > reference. I

> > > > > > > request those who are knowledgeable in authentic prashna

> > > > traditions

> > > > > > > to write to the member (He is the person who is cutting

> and

> > > > pasting

> > > > > > > the Garga Hora in this list) telling him that I am

> justified

> > > in my

> > > > > > > stand, and I am doing it in the best interests. He does

> not

> > > > > > > understand the danger of maintaining the prashna chart

> > > indicating

> > > > a

> > > > > > > paisacha baadha which is inauspicious! I am pained by his

> > > words

> > > > > > > like " Your are hiding something; hiding things is not a

> sign

> > > of

> > > > > > > fairness " etc. It is almost like accusing me of being a

> > > cheat!

> > > > Again

> > > > > > > he comment on my professionalism; I am acting as per my

> > > > professional

> > > > > > > ethics; why is he - a novice imputing motives to me and

> > > commenting

> > > > > > > on my professionalism? Is this what an astrologer gets

> for

> > > his

> > > > > > > service?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Below is the extract....

> > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ----

> ----

> > > - -

> > > > > > > Dear Shri. Lalith Mishra:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Unnecessary openness in the name of frankness is the

> bane of

> > > our

> > > > > > > society now-a-days. Will you go out in the nude on the

> public

> > > > roads

> > > > > > > just to prove you have nothing to hide? Asking advanced

> and

> > > unique

> > > > > > > predictive techniques of a practising professional

> > > persistently

> > > > even

> > > > > > > after he has denied access to that knowledge is very

> rude .

> > > The

> > > > > > > access to that knowledge was denied because it can be

> > > > misinterpreted

> > > > > > > and if you post that " technique " in the VA list, many

> other

> > > > members

> > > > > > > will get anxious (just as some members are wondering

> what is

> > > wrong

> > > > > > > with their horoscopes with the Garga Hora posting of

> yours!)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > What do I have to gain by withholding information? I am

> too

> > > > > > > advanced in my profession to be taking advice from people

> > > > regarding

> > > > > > > what is the professional way of handling my clients. I

> have

> > > no

> > > > > > > malefic intentions, and your accusing me of being unfair

> is

> > > rude

> > > > (in

> > > > > > > fact each of your mails contains something or the other).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I can assure you only one thing - I have acted in the

> best of

> > > > > > > intentions.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am posting this in the VA list so that other learned

> > > members

> > > > might

> > > > > > > put some wisdom into you (I have failed in this with my

> > > repeated

> > > > > > > replies to you).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Blessed be.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > " Lalit Mishra, Noida " mlalit@ wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Res. Pandit Ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On the one hand , I m thankful to you for all ur analysis

> > > and I

> > > > will

> > > > > > > follow ur instructions but on the other I must say don't

> > > seem fair

> > > > > > > enough in ur professional approach.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hiding things is not a sign of fairness.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > If I knew astrology, perhapse I w'd not have asked u for

> such

> > > > simple

> > > > > > > things or charts, required to keep in my records. My

> level

> > > is not

> > > > a

> > > > > > > constraint for u to share important charts, if tomorrow I

> > > need to

> > > > > > > contact u for sth, how I w'd do without any reference.

> If I

> > > ask u,

> > > > u

> > > > > > > should not hold things at ur's end and u don't gain any

> > > thing with

> > > > > > > ur approach.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > Lalit Mishra.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ============ ========= ========= ========= =========

> > > =========

> > > > > > ========= =

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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