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Guest guest Posted July 15, 2007 Report Share Posted July 15, 2007 Dear Shri. Karunaakaram Raaghavam: It is actually " Bodhaayana Ishti " . Vedic persons performing " Oupaasana " are supposed to a ritual called sthaalipaakam on Prathama thiti after Full Moon and New Moon days. There are specific rules regarding at what time of the day the Pratham should be there (thithis do not always coincide with the natural day between sunrise to sunrise and there will be intermingling of thithis). That sthaalipaakam yagna is also called " Ishti " . Vedic yagnas are classified as " Ishtis " and " Poorthams " . You will find that this " Ishti " of sthaalipaakam will sometimes fall on days when there is amavasya thithi itself (thithi for shraddham is based on the thithi in operation at the " aparaahna kaalam " of a day; so pitru tarpanams are done when amaavasya is in operation on the aparaahana period of a day; but if that day contains more period under prathama, the ishti falls on the same day). Usually, the ishti falls on the next day after amavasysa tarpanam day. In this case, Bodhaayana amaavasya (there are certain months when the Bodhaayana amaavasya comes on the day before the sarva amaavasya) fell on July 13, 2007; so Bodhaayana dharma sutriis were supposed to perform their ishti on July 14, 2007 which was the sarva amaavasya day! There is an interesting reference about Bodhayana amavasya related to an event in Mahaabharata war. Lord Krishna deliberately did Amaavasya tarpanam on the day before actual Amaavasya to confuse the Kauravaas who had planned their Yuddha Bali on Amaavasya for their success. (If they had done the yuddha bali at the correct amaavasya period, their chances of success would have been brightened which evidenly was against Lord Krishnaa's scheme). Amaavaasya was in Pichcham - means it had started around the afternoon day; but by usual reckoning, Amaavasya should have been celebrated for pitru poojas the next day only. Seeing Lord Krishna making arrangements for tarpanam, lot of vedic Brahmins including the Sapta Rishis started doing the pitru pooja on the same day (one day before the actual thithi). Sun and the Moon Gods got perplexed and being Viswa Saakshis they got perturbed when something against the Dharma was being followed by the best of Dharmic minds. So, they manifested before Lord Krishna and requested an explanation. Lord Krishna answered back " If Sun and the Moon are conjunct it is Amaavasya; now you both are here together; is it not amaavasya? " . Though initially it was not amaavasya, now their conjunction had made it amaavasya in reality and they had no more queries to ask and returned to their abodes. It is to commemorate this event Bodhaayana adhyaayins (those who follow the doctrines of the great rishi Bodhaayana) follow the Bodhaayana amavaasya one day prior to the actual amaavasya thithi when amaavasya is in piccham of the previous day just as it was during that episode involving Lord Krishna Himself. Bodhaayanaa soothram for religious activities is known for its exhaustiveness, and certain practices are unique to this sutra adherents. Another curiosity associated with Bodhayana Maharishi is that his sutra contains what is now known as Pythogora's theorem! The sage has written this long before Pythogoras formed his theorem on the length of hypotenuse! Why do I wax eloquent about all this in such a detail.......Just to shine for sometime in the reflected glory of my illustrious ancestor...that is all....I belong to a family that adheres to Bodhayana sutra strictly! Blessed be. Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. In vedic astrology , KARUNAAKARAM RAAGHAVAM <munisevitham wrote: > > Namaste, > > on 14th July2007 it was mentioned in panchangam as " Amavasya, poodhaayana ishti " ,what does it mean? > > > > Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2007 Report Share Posted July 15, 2007 Namaste, Thank you very much for your kind detailed note. You have made it clear for every body’s convenience that “PANCHANGAM” is not a mere instrument of INDIAN calendar of dates, but it also conveys our Historic culture, belief, faith and events. dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer wrote: Dear Shri. Karunaakaram Raaghavam: It is actually " Bodhaayana Ishti " . Vedic persons performing " Oupaasana " are supposed to a ritual called sthaalipaakam on Prathama thiti after Full Moon and New Moon days. There are specific rules regarding at what time of the day the Pratham should be there (thithis do not always coincide with the natural day between sunrise to sunrise and there will be intermingling of thithis). That sthaalipaakam yagna is also called " Ishti " . Vedic yagnas are classified as " Ishtis " and " Poorthams " . You will find that this " Ishti " of sthaalipaakam will sometimes fall on days when there is amavasya thithi itself (thithi for shraddham is based on the thithi in operation at the " aparaahna kaalam " of a day; so pitru tarpanams are done when amaavasya is in operation on the aparaahana period of a day; but if that day contains more period under prathama, the ishti falls on the same day). Usually, the ishti falls on the next day after amavasysa tarpanam day. In this case, Bodhaayana amaavasya (there are certain months when the Bodhaayana amaavasya comes on the day before the sarva amaavasya) fell on July 13, 2007; so Bodhaayana dharma sutriis were supposed to perform their ishti on July 14, 2007 which was the sarva amaavasya day! There is an interesting reference about Bodhayana amavasya related to an event in Mahaabharata war. Lord Krishna deliberately did Amaavasya tarpanam on the day before actual Amaavasya to confuse the Kauravaas who had planned their Yuddha Bali on Amaavasya for their success. (If they had done the yuddha bali at the correct amaavasya period, their chances of success would have been brightened which evidenly was against Lord Krishnaa's scheme). Amaavaasya was in Pichcham - means it had started around the afternoon day; but by usual reckoning, Amaavasya should have been celebrated for pitru poojas the next day only. Seeing Lord Krishna making arrangements for tarpanam, lot of vedic Brahmins including the Sapta Rishis started doing the pitru pooja on the same day (one day before the actual thithi). Sun and the Moon Gods got perplexed and being Viswa Saakshis they got perturbed when something against the Dharma was being followed by the best of Dharmic minds. So, they manifested before Lord Krishna and requested an explanation. Lord Krishna answered back " If Sun and the Moon are conjunct it is Amaavasya; now you both are here together; is it not amaavasya? " . Though initially it was not amaavasya, now their conjunction had made it amaavasya in reality and they had no more queries to ask and returned to their abodes. It is to commemorate this event Bodhaayana adhyaayins (those who follow the doctrines of the great rishi Bodhaayana) follow the Bodhaayana amavaasya one day prior to the actual amaavasya thithi when amaavasya is in piccham of the previous day just as it was during that episode involving Lord Krishna Himself. Bodhaayanaa soothram for religious activities is known for its exhaustiveness, and certain practices are unique to this sutra adherents. Another curiosity associated with Bodhayana Maharishi is that his sutra contains what is now known as Pythogora's theorem! The sage has written this long before Pythogoras formed his theorem on the length of hypotenuse! Why do I wax eloquent about all this in such a detail.......Just to shine for sometime in the reflected glory of my illustrious ancestor...that is all....I belong to a family that adheres to Bodhayana sutra strictly! Blessed be. Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. In vedic astrology , KARUNAAKARAM RAAGHAVAM <munisevitham wrote: > > Namaste, > > on 14th July2007 it was mentioned in panchangam as " Amavasya, poodhaayana ishti " ,what does it mean? > > > > Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2007 Report Share Posted July 15, 2007 Namastae Panditji I am refering to tharpanam performed for pitrus on specific thithis. Thithis do not coincide with calendar days. Many countries outside India do not have panjangam published for that country. Considering my country, Singapore, all temple astrologers (all from Tamil Nadu) tell people to perform yearly srartham based on thithi mentioned in the panjangam which is cast for certain cities in Tamil Nadu, be it vakya or trik. Is it right? How to decide the thithi? Divide ahas into five portion. If a particular thithi spread over 5th portion or maximum of 4th portion of the day ,that is the thithi. If a thithi start on the 5th portion but ends on 3rd portion on the following day(upto 14 ghatis) that is the thithi. If a particular thithi comes twice, take the later one. Kindly correct me and should there be any English or Tamil book for furthur reading, please suggest. --- dakshinastrolo <dakshinastrologer wrote: > Dear Shri. Karunaakaram Raaghavam: > > It is actually " Bodhaayana Ishti " . Vedic persons > performing " Oupaasana " are supposed to a ritual called > sthaalipaakam > on Prathama thiti after Full Moon and New Moon days. > There are > specific rules regarding at what time of the day the > Pratham should > be there (thithis do not always coincide with the natural > day > between sunrise to sunrise and there will be > intermingling of > thithis). That sthaalipaakam yagna is also called > " Ishti " . Vedic > yagnas are classified as " Ishtis " and " Poorthams " . You > will find > that this " Ishti " of sthaalipaakam will sometimes fall on > days when > there is amavasya thithi itself (thithi for shraddham is > based on > the thithi in operation at the " aparaahna kaalam " of a > day; so pitru > tarpanams are done when amaavasya is in operation on the > aparaahana > period of a day; but if that day contains more period > under > prathama, the ishti falls on the same day). Usually, the > ishti > falls on the next day after amavasysa tarpanam day. > > In this case, Bodhaayana amaavasya (there are certain > months when > the Bodhaayana amaavasya comes on the day before the > sarva > amaavasya) fell on July 13, 2007; so Bodhaayana dharma > sutriis were > supposed to perform their ishti on July 14, 2007 which > was the sarva > amaavasya day! > > There is an interesting reference about Bodhayana > amavasya related > to an event in Mahaabharata war. Lord Krishna > deliberately did > Amaavasya tarpanam on the day before actual Amaavasya to > confuse the > Kauravaas who had planned their Yuddha Bali on Amaavasya > for their > success. (If they had done the yuddha bali at the correct > amaavasya > period, their chances of success would have been > brightened which > evidenly was against Lord Krishnaa's scheme). Amaavaasya > was in > Pichcham - means it had started around the afternoon day; > but by > usual reckoning, Amaavasya should have been celebrated > for pitru > poojas the next day only. Seeing Lord Krishna making > arrangements > for tarpanam, lot of vedic Brahmins including the Sapta > Rishis > started doing the pitru pooja on the same day (one day > before the > actual thithi). Sun and the Moon Gods got perplexed and > being Viswa > Saakshis they got perturbed when something against the > Dharma was > being followed by the best of Dharmic minds. So, they > manifested > before Lord Krishna and requested an explanation. Lord > Krishna > answered back " If Sun and the Moon are conjunct it is > Amaavasya; now > you both are here together; is it not amaavasya? " . > Though initially > it was not amaavasya, now their conjunction had made it > amaavasya in > reality and they had no more queries to ask and returned > to their > abodes. > > It is to commemorate this event Bodhaayana adhyaayins > (those who > follow the doctrines of the great rishi Bodhaayana) > follow the > Bodhaayana amavaasya one day prior to the actual > amaavasya thithi > when amaavasya is in piccham of the previous day just as > it was > during that episode involving Lord Krishna Himself. > Bodhaayanaa > soothram for religious activities is known for its > exhaustiveness, > and certain practices are unique to this sutra adherents. > > Another curiosity associated with Bodhayana Maharishi is > that his > sutra contains what is now known as Pythogora's theorem! > The sage > has written this long before Pythogoras formed his > theorem on the > length of hypotenuse! > > Why do I wax eloquent about all this in such a > detail.......Just to > shine for sometime in the reflected glory of my > illustrious > ancestor...that is all....I belong to a family that > adheres to > Bodhayana sutra strictly! > > Blessed be. > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. 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Guest guest Posted July 15, 2007 Report Share Posted July 15, 2007 Dear Shri. Yishun: What is being followed in the temples and by astrologers in Singapore (as you mentioned) is wrong. Panchangams of Tamil Nadu usually are based on places in Tamil Nadu, and those values will not hold good for foreign countries where the sunrise and sunset timings will be different. Some people just convert the panchangam values into the local standard time (based on time difference of the countries), but even this is not correct as the sunrise, sunset timings are different for the two places. (I think this will also explain why I said temple priests are not knowledgeable of astrological matters in one of my recent posts in answer to Shri. Venkatesh; parrot-liking following of customs without understanding the rationale behind explainable things is patently wrong. Of couse, there are certain Aitheekams that are to be implicitly believed. Knowing the difference between what is an Aitheekam and what is a negotiable tradition is the essence of success in occult arts). My motive is not to blame anybody; but if we start attaching credibility to patently wrong practices just because they are widely prevalent, we will not be achieving real progress....I am sorry if I have gone beyond your query while stating these. You have got the essence of thithi determination. The thithi that predominates in the 5th portion of the day is the shraddh thithi (approximately 19th to 24th ghatis). If that thithi falls on two days, take the previous day as shraddh day if it is a " Kshaya thithi " and take the next day for shraddh if it is " Vriddhi " thithi. (Kshaya thithi is that thithi which is ending; and which operates only for a short duration during the aparaahnaa kaalam; vriddhi thithi extends beyond the 5th portion of the day on the second day also). If the thithi comes twice in a solar month, then take the second one as the shraddh thithi. Blessed be. Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. vedic astrology , yishun <yishun15 wrote: > > Namastae Panditji > I am refering to tharpanam performed for pitrus on specific > thithis. Thithis do not coincide with calendar days. Many > countries outside India do not have panjangam published for > that country. Considering my country, Singapore, all temple > astrologers (all from Tamil Nadu) tell people to perform > yearly srartham based on thithi mentioned in the panjangam > which is cast for certain cities in Tamil Nadu, be it vakya > or trik. Is it right? > > How to decide the thithi? > > Divide ahas into five portion. If a particular thithi > spread over 5th portion or maximum of 4th portion of the > day ,that is the thithi. If a thithi start on the 5th > portion but ends on 3rd portion on the following day(upto > 14 ghatis) that is the thithi. If a particular thithi comes > twice, take the later one. > > Kindly correct me and should there be any English or Tamil > book for furthur reading, please suggest. > > > > --- dakshinastrolo > <dakshinastrologer wrote: > > > Dear Shri. Karunaakaram Raaghavam: > > > > It is actually " Bodhaayana Ishti " . Vedic persons > > performing " Oupaasana " are supposed to a ritual called > > sthaalipaakam > > on Prathama thiti after Full Moon and New Moon days. > > There are > > specific rules regarding at what time of the day the > > Pratham should > > be there (thithis do not always coincide with the natural > > day > > between sunrise to sunrise and there will be > > intermingling of > > thithis). That sthaalipaakam yagna is also called > > " Ishti " . Vedic > > yagnas are classified as " Ishtis " and " Poorthams " . You > > will find > > that this " Ishti " of sthaalipaakam will sometimes fall on > > days when > > there is amavasya thithi itself (thithi for shraddham is > > based on > > the thithi in operation at the " aparaahna kaalam " of a > > day; so pitru > > tarpanams are done when amaavasya is in operation on the > > aparaahana > > period of a day; but if that day contains more period > > under > > prathama, the ishti falls on the same day). Usually, the > > ishti > > falls on the next day after amavasysa tarpanam day. > > > > In this case, Bodhaayana amaavasya (there are certain > > months when > > the Bodhaayana amaavasya comes on the day before the > > sarva > > amaavasya) fell on July 13, 2007; so Bodhaayana dharma > > sutriis were > > supposed to perform their ishti on July 14, 2007 which > > was the sarva > > amaavasya day! > > > > There is an interesting reference about Bodhayana > > amavasya related > > to an event in Mahaabharata war. Lord Krishna > > deliberately did > > Amaavasya tarpanam on the day before actual Amaavasya to > > confuse the > > Kauravaas who had planned their Yuddha Bali on Amaavasya > > for their > > success. (If they had done the yuddha bali at the correct > > amaavasya > > period, their chances of success would have been > > brightened which > > evidenly was against Lord Krishnaa's scheme). Amaavaasya > > was in > > Pichcham - means it had started around the afternoon day; > > but by > > usual reckoning, Amaavasya should have been celebrated > > for pitru > > poojas the next day only. Seeing Lord Krishna making > > arrangements > > for tarpanam, lot of vedic Brahmins including the Sapta > > Rishis > > started doing the pitru pooja on the same day (one day > > before the > > actual thithi). Sun and the Moon Gods got perplexed and > > being Viswa > > Saakshis they got perturbed when something against the > > Dharma was > > being followed by the best of Dharmic minds. So, they > > manifested > > before Lord Krishna and requested an explanation. Lord > > Krishna > > answered back " If Sun and the Moon are conjunct it is > > Amaavasya; now > > you both are here together; is it not amaavasya? " . > > Though initially > > it was not amaavasya, now their conjunction had made it > > amaavasya in > > reality and they had no more queries to ask and returned > > to their > > abodes. > > > > It is to commemorate this event Bodhaayana adhyaayins > > (those who > > follow the doctrines of the great rishi Bodhaayana) > > follow the > > Bodhaayana amavaasya one day prior to the actual > > amaavasya thithi > > when amaavasya is in piccham of the previous day just as > > it was > > during that episode involving Lord Krishna Himself. > > Bodhaayanaa > > soothram for religious activities is known for its > > exhaustiveness, > > and certain practices are unique to this sutra adherents. > > > > Another curiosity associated with Bodhayana Maharishi is > > that his > > sutra contains what is now known as Pythogora's theorem! > > The sage > > has written this long before Pythogoras formed his > > theorem on the > > length of hypotenuse! > > > > Why do I wax eloquent about all this in such a > > detail.......Just to > > shine for sometime in the reflected glory of my > > illustrious > > ancestor...that is all....I belong to a family that > > adheres to > > Bodhayana sutra strictly! > > > > Blessed be. > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. > > > REGARDS > Yishun > > > > _________ > Mail is the world's favourite email. 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Guest guest Posted July 16, 2007 Report Share Posted July 16, 2007 respected Pundit ji can u plz shed some more light on bodhayan system & suggest some readings. i shall be very thankful to u. thanks KARUNAAKARAM RAAGHAVAM <munisevitham wrote: Namaste, Thank you very much for your kind detailed note. You have made it clear for every body’s convenience that “PANCHANGAM” is not a mere instrument of INDIAN calendar of dates, but it also conveys our Historic culture, belief, faith and events. dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer wrote: Dear Shri. Karunaakaram Raaghavam: It is actually " Bodhaayana Ishti " . Vedic persons performing " Oupaasana " are supposed to a ritual called sthaalipaakam on Prathama thiti after Full Moon and New Moon days. There are specific rules regarding at what time of the day the Pratham should be there (thithis do not always coincide with the natural day between sunrise to sunrise and there will be intermingling of thithis). That sthaalipaakam yagna is also called " Ishti " . Vedic yagnas are classified as " Ishtis " and " Poorthams " . You will find that this " Ishti " of sthaalipaakam will sometimes fall on days when there is amavasya thithi itself (thithi for shraddham is based on the thithi in operation at the " aparaahna kaalam " of a day; so pitru tarpanams are done when amaavasya is in operation on the aparaahana period of a day; but if that day contains more period under prathama, the ishti falls on the same day). Usually, the ishti falls on the next day after amavasysa tarpanam day. In this case, Bodhaayana amaavasya (there are certain months when the Bodhaayana amaavasya comes on the day before the sarva amaavasya) fell on July 13, 2007; so Bodhaayana dharma sutriis were supposed to perform their ishti on July 14, 2007 which was the sarva amaavasya day! There is an interesting reference about Bodhayana amavasya related to an event in Mahaabharata war. Lord Krishna deliberately did Amaavasya tarpanam on the day before actual Amaavasya to confuse the Kauravaas who had planned their Yuddha Bali on Amaavasya for their success. (If they had done the yuddha bali at the correct amaavasya period, their chances of success would have been brightened which evidenly was against Lord Krishnaa's scheme). Amaavaasya was in Pichcham - means it had started around the afternoon day; but by usual reckoning, Amaavasya should have been celebrated for pitru poojas the next day only. Seeing Lord Krishna making arrangements for tarpanam, lot of vedic Brahmins including the Sapta Rishis started doing the pitru pooja on the same day (one day before the actual thithi). Sun and the Moon Gods got perplexed and being Viswa Saakshis they got perturbed when something against the Dharma was being followed by the best of Dharmic minds. So, they manifested before Lord Krishna and requested an explanation. Lord Krishna answered back " If Sun and the Moon are conjunct it is Amaavasya; now you both are here together; is it not amaavasya? " . Though initially it was not amaavasya, now their conjunction had made it amaavasya in reality and they had no more queries to ask and returned to their abodes. It is to commemorate this event Bodhaayana adhyaayins (those who follow the doctrines of the great rishi Bodhaayana) follow the Bodhaayana amavaasya one day prior to the actual amaavasya thithi when amaavasya is in piccham of the previous day just as it was during that episode involving Lord Krishna Himself. Bodhaayanaa soothram for religious activities is known for its exhaustiveness, and certain practices are unique to this sutra adherents. Another curiosity associated with Bodhayana Maharishi is that his sutra contains what is now known as Pythogora's theorem! The sage has written this long before Pythogoras formed his theorem on the length of hypotenuse! Why do I wax eloquent about all this in such a detail.......Just to shine for sometime in the reflected glory of my illustrious ancestor...that is all....I belong to a family that adheres to Bodhayana sutra strictly! Blessed be. Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. In vedic astrology , KARUNAAKARAM RAAGHAVAM <munisevitham wrote: > > Namaste, > > on 14th July2007 it was mentioned in panchangam as " Amavasya, poodhaayana ishti " ,what does it mean? > > > > Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2007 Report Share Posted July 16, 2007 manoj sharma <swastik_astro wrote: respected Pundit ji can u plz shed some more light on bodhayan system & suggest some readings. i shall be very thankful to u. thanks KARUNAAKARAM RAAGHAVAM <munisevitham wrote: Namaste, Thank you very much for your kind detailed note. You have made it clear for every body’s convenience that “PANCHANGAM” is not a mere instrument of INDIAN calendar of dates, but it also conveys our Historic culture, belief, faith and events. dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer wrote: Dear Shri. Karunaakaram Raaghavam: It is actually " Bodhaayana Ishti " . Vedic persons performing " Oupaasana " are supposed to a ritual called sthaalipaakam on Prathama thiti after Full Moon and New Moon days. There are specific rules regarding at what time of the day the Pratham should be there (thithis do not always coincide with the natural day between sunrise to sunrise and there will be intermingling of thithis). That sthaalipaakam yagna is also called " Ishti " . Vedic yagnas are classified as " Ishtis " and " Poorthams " . You will find that this " Ishti " of sthaalipaakam will sometimes fall on days when there is amavasya thithi itself (thithi for shraddham is based on the thithi in operation at the " aparaahna kaalam " of a day; so pitru tarpanams are done when amaavasya is in operation on the aparaahana period of a day; but if that day contains more period under prathama, the ishti falls on the same day). Usually, the ishti falls on the next day after amavasysa tarpanam day. In this case, Bodhaayana amaavasya (there are certain months when the Bodhaayana amaavasya comes on the day before the sarva amaavasya) fell on July 13, 2007; so Bodhaayana dharma sutriis were supposed to perform their ishti on July 14, 2007 which was the sarva amaavasya day! There is an interesting reference about Bodhayana amavasya related to an event in Mahaabharata war. Lord Krishna deliberately did Amaavasya tarpanam on the day before actual Amaavasya to confuse the Kauravaas who had planned their Yuddha Bali on Amaavasya for their success. (If they had done the yuddha bali at the correct amaavasya period, their chances of success would have been brightened which evidenly was against Lord Krishnaa's scheme). Amaavaasya was in Pichcham - means it had started around the afternoon day; but by usual reckoning, Amaavasya should have been celebrated for pitru poojas the next day only. Seeing Lord Krishna making arrangements for tarpanam, lot of vedic Brahmins including the Sapta Rishis started doing the pitru pooja on the same day (one day before the actual thithi). Sun and the Moon Gods got perplexed and being Viswa Saakshis they got perturbed when something against the Dharma was being followed by the best of Dharmic minds. So, they manifested before Lord Krishna and requested an explanation. Lord Krishna answered back " If Sun and the Moon are conjunct it is Amaavasya; now you both are here together; is it not amaavasya? " . Though initially it was not amaavasya, now their conjunction had made it amaavasya in reality and they had no more queries to ask and returned to their abodes. It is to commemorate this event Bodhaayana adhyaayins (those who follow the doctrines of the great rishi Bodhaayana) follow the Bodhaayana amavaasya one day prior to the actual amaavasya thithi when amaavasya is in piccham of the previous day just as it was during that episode involving Lord Krishna Himself. Bodhaayanaa soothram for religious activities is known for its exhaustiveness, and certain practices are unique to this sutra adherents. Another curiosity associated with Bodhayana Maharishi is that his sutra contains what is now known as Pythogora's theorem! The sage has written this long before Pythogoras formed his theorem on the length of hypotenuse! Why do I wax eloquent about all this in such a detail.......Just to shine for sometime in the reflected glory of my illustrious ancestor...that is all....I belong to a family that adheres to Bodhayana sutra strictly! Blessed be. Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. In vedic astrology , KARUNAAKARAM RAAGHAVAM <munisevitham wrote: > > Namaste, > > on 14th July2007 it was mentioned in panchangam as " Amavasya, poodhaayana ishti " ,what does it mean? > > > > Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2007 Report Share Posted July 16, 2007 Dear Shri. Manoj: Bodhayana sutram of rituals is affiliated to the Taittiriya sakha of Yajurveda (Krishna Yajur Veda), and there are more adherents to this sytem to the south of vindhyas than in the Northern parts. It is not a much followed sutra - the majority adherents being affiliated to Aapasthamba sutra (Yajur veda) or Aasvalaayana (Rig Veda). Bodhaayana Maharishi's recommendation on ritual procedures is a little elaborate than the other systems, and there are some unique aspects to this like catching " Fish " during marriage ceremony (Brinjal cut into pieces will serve the role of a fish, and the couple will join together and try to catch the " Fish " using the upper garment of the husband which symbolizes uniting together as a couple and capitalizing on all opporunities in life to improve their welfare), not giving name to the male child according the proper naamakarana procedures till the 40th day is over after birth, etc. Our Brahman Yagnam is also special in that it is very elaborate and it was so secular that we are supposed to give tarpanam to certain classes of people who normally do not get covered under rituals and whose castes do not have provisions for such tarpanams, but nevertheless who play vital roles in the society. The Brahma Yagnam of Bodhaayanas accept " rishis " from all castes (we say jana rishi - one who is a common man but has done social service and can be considered as a mahatma; satya rishi - one who is devoted to truth and hence can be a rishi irrespective of caste; vaishya rishi, suta rishi, etc. - meaning those who lead devoted spiritual lives though born in different castes as mentioned in the mantras; the list is more exhaustive - I have just given a glance). Bodhayana prayog books can be authentically bought from Raaja Veda Patasala in Kumbakonam. Leading bookstores like Giri Trading Agency sell those books (But the book will be in Grantha script, and unless you are already knowledgeable in the vedic routines, you will not be able to follow that book because it will be just hints like " say this mantra beginning with...... at this place " , etc.). Actually according to Dharma Shaastra, no Grihya sutra is great or small. One has to go by ancient family traditions in this regard if one leads a normal life. I wrote the post only to just highlight about the Bodhayana sutra as queries pertaining to an usage peculiar to the Bodhaayanaas was raised. For the sake of consistency and continuity of family traditions, it is best you learn the Grihya sutra that is being followed in your family itself. That will be best from both practical and ritualistic points of view. But of course, those who wish to follow highly philosophical vedic percepts can indeed adopt Bodhayana sutras voluntarily as this is very exhaustive provided you have good qualified pandits who know its applications (You won't find many Pandits qualified in Bodhaayana sutras). Another interesting fact.....those who perform special remedies are inadvertently following parts of Bodhaayana sutra. For instance, now-a-days people are following Rudraikaadasini performance before shashtiapta poorthi; the procedure was initially laid down by Bodhaayana Maharishi only. (The Mahaanyaasam procedure for Shri Rudra japam has been laid down by that Great Rishi). Blessed be. Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. vedic astrology , KARUNAAKARAM RAAGHAVAM <munisevitham wrote: > > > > manoj sharma <swastik_astro wrote: respected Pundit ji > > can u plz shed some more light on bodhayan system & suggest some readings. i shall be very thankful to u. > > thanks > > > KARUNAAKARAM RAAGHAVAM <munisevitham wrote: > Namaste, > > Thank you very much for your kind detailed note. You have made it clear for every body's convenience that " PANCHANGAM " is not a mere instrument of INDIAN calendar of dates, but it also conveys our Historic culture, belief, faith and events. > > dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer wrote: Dear Shri. Karunaakaram Raaghavam: > > It is actually " Bodhaayana Ishti " . Vedic persons > performing " Oupaasana " are supposed to a ritual called sthaalipaakam > on Prathama thiti after Full Moon and New Moon days. There are > specific rules regarding at what time of the day the Pratham should > be there (thithis do not always coincide with the natural day > between sunrise to sunrise and there will be intermingling of > thithis). That sthaalipaakam yagna is also called " Ishti " . Vedic > yagnas are classified as " Ishtis " and " Poorthams " . You will find > that this " Ishti " of sthaalipaakam will sometimes fall on days when > there is amavasya thithi itself (thithi for shraddham is based on > the thithi in operation at the " aparaahna kaalam " of a day; so pitru > tarpanams are done when amaavasya is in operation on the aparaahana > period of a day; but if that day contains more period under > prathama, the ishti falls on the same day). Usually, the ishti > falls on the next day after amavasysa tarpanam day. > > In this case, Bodhaayana amaavasya (there are certain months when > the Bodhaayana amaavasya comes on the day before the sarva > amaavasya) fell on July 13, 2007; so Bodhaayana dharma sutriis were > supposed to perform their ishti on July 14, 2007 which was the sarva > amaavasya day! > > There is an interesting reference about Bodhayana amavasya related > to an event in Mahaabharata war. Lord Krishna deliberately did > Amaavasya tarpanam on the day before actual Amaavasya to confuse the > Kauravaas who had planned their Yuddha Bali on Amaavasya for their > success. (If they had done the yuddha bali at the correct amaavasya > period, their chances of success would have been brightened which > evidenly was against Lord Krishnaa's scheme). Amaavaasya was in > Pichcham - means it had started around the afternoon day; but by > usual reckoning, Amaavasya should have been celebrated for pitru > poojas the next day only. Seeing Lord Krishna making arrangements > for tarpanam, lot of vedic Brahmins including the Sapta Rishis > started doing the pitru pooja on the same day (one day before the > actual thithi). Sun and the Moon Gods got perplexed and being Viswa > Saakshis they got perturbed when something against the Dharma was > being followed by the best of Dharmic minds. So, they manifested > before Lord Krishna and requested an explanation. Lord Krishna > answered back " If Sun and the Moon are conjunct it is Amaavasya; now > you both are here together; is it not amaavasya? " . Though initially > it was not amaavasya, now their conjunction had made it amaavasya in > reality and they had no more queries to ask and returned to their > abodes. > > It is to commemorate this event Bodhaayana adhyaayins (those who > follow the doctrines of the great rishi Bodhaayana) follow the > Bodhaayana amavaasya one day prior to the actual amaavasya thithi > when amaavasya is in piccham of the previous day just as it was > during that episode involving Lord Krishna Himself. Bodhaayanaa > soothram for religious activities is known for its exhaustiveness, > and certain practices are unique to this sutra adherents. > > Another curiosity associated with Bodhayana Maharishi is that his > sutra contains what is now known as Pythogora's theorem! The sage > has written this long before Pythogoras formed his theorem on the > length of hypotenuse! > > Why do I wax eloquent about all this in such a detail.......Just to > shine for sometime in the reflected glory of my illustrious > ancestor...that is all....I belong to a family that adheres to > Bodhayana sutra strictly! > > Blessed be. > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. > > In vedic astrology , KARUNAAKARAM RAAGHAVAM > <munisevitham@> wrote: > > > > Namaste, > > > > on 14th July2007 it was mentioned in panchangam as " Amavasya, > poodhaayana ishti " ,what does it mean? > > > > > > > > Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your > pocket: mail, news, photos & more. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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